Martin O'Neill and Simon Jordan DISAGREE on if Roy Keane Should Manage the Republic of Ireland 👀🔥
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Will Roy Keane return to management? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin O'Neill discuss.
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I love how Martin just takes his time and does what he wants without being rude 😂😂
An intelligent man with his ego well a truly in check - the same cannot be said for Simon Jordan; whom is growing on me as a pundit / presenter.
Martin O'Neill is an absolute belter, honestly.
Jim "Right" White
The Republic of Ireland are at rock bottom right now. The FAI are in debt. There aren’t many players in the squad playing in the English Premier League and hardly any in the Champions League. I don’t think there will be too many proven managers in the queue to be ROI manager? If Roy really wants the job by all means give it to him, we can do no worse
@@tevildo45 you really think Carsley would give up England U21 for Ireland? I don’t
Has to be Carsley
Gus Poyet wants it
Keane was assistant manager to o Neill and we played a horrible brand of football with better players.
Chris Hughton once the African cup of nation is over. Could be an option
"Why do you keep saying right" 😆
“Why do you keep saying “right”, Jim?” Ouch!
Gary Neville lives in Simon's head rent free😂
Them two in a debate, Jordan wins hands down
What happen between those two
As a Forest supporter of nearly 50 years now I remember when keano came to us as a teenager He was brilliant and it was a shame when he went to Utd and Forest got relegated too As for management as we all know the Sunderland job went brilliantly for him but managing Wales is a whole new mission Big up Martin O Neil Nottingham Forest legend love the bones of the man lol 🏐🥅⚽🏴♥️
was it not about 30 years that Roy keane played for forest
He said he's been a supporter for 50 years mate. Read again
As a Liverpool fan Roy is more my hero from a respect point of view. He just can't stick players "who don't give 100% in his eyes". Absolutely top man as a Captain. I just don't think is a great manager. Maybe in Championship. He would be better than Gerard, Lampard and Ole.
It would be like in army never have him as a General. All the soldiers will be dead. Great sergeant absolutely. Better than Southgate. He will get shot by his trainees.
Maradona called him the future of football when he was at Forest.What a player .
@@joemac9249that's a great way to look at it.. and put it in that context. It's the kind of thing I think of after 1 of the few times I have a joint and think that's so spot on.. then forget the next day lol
Simon Jordan, a legend…… in his own mind.
It’s crazy how obsessed with Gary Neville Simon is. Gary wants to start charging him rent
the way Jim slapped his glasses on he was ready to start stirring the pot 🍯 😅
Nice to see Martin O'Neil still around after 100 years!
behave kobir ya plum
aw aye ah ye but he isnae
Martin don't half go round the houses, at times
Older, wiser, much more chilled. Good with PR and TV, reads the game and tells the truth.
Roy Keane as Manager, John O'Shea as assistant manager/coach. Common sense. O'Shea has a masters degree in coaching. Two former teammates. Maybe Andy Reid in as well.
How do you get a masters degree in coaching? By winning a World Cup? Not sure I'm convinced about a Masters Degree in coaching that only deals in the theory of a good game. Sofa Pundits are all Masters Degree level coaches.
@@wewhofly I think it's a UEFA Masters degree or something like that! Im only highlighting it because people say Keane needs a modern coach with him. So there ya go.
Excellent post
10:06 So so rude from Jordan again to not let Martin finish his point....STOP INTERRUPTING!!
Astonishing. Clearly not listening
I agree with Simon about Roy not being right for a manager. He's been out of the game for a long time.
Just because he's a passionate person does not make him qualified to do so.
Ireland's situation is dire the face that Roy is being put on a shortlist speaks volumes.
They're in talks with Thierry Henry apparently
@@GamerFriscoawful manager
What handball@@GamerFrisco 😂
Ireland needs to stick with its current manager and try and develop its league. Ireland as a nation has no football style and needs to start there.
If he has a great no. 2 it should be possible. He is a national icon.
Jim White reminds me of the host at Mungo Jerry’s who David Brent speaks to:
“What’s going on, David!”
“What you got for us tonight”
“What’s in the pipeline”
Scattergun of questions
I'm not entirely sure what martin O'Neill brings to this show. Rambles on and on without making a point. All politician answers too
I wonder when Simon last watched an Ireland match, and yet he has such an extensive opinion.
I like Simon so honest in his questioning.
Unbelievable player, crazy manager 👍
He could do Int management. Elite, Premier League or even Championship may be beyond him in today's age.
Roy managed Sunderland and Ipswich , was assistant manager for the Republic of Ireland and Villa , Frank Lampard got the Chelsea job on less experience and also Gerrard .
🤣frank lampard had more expierence in the job lets be real now, he kept everton up. not saying hes any good but cant really relate to your comparison
Whilst Martin O Neil uses 50 words to get zero messages across, Simon Jordan gets 5 messages across in 5 words
you're funny
You muppet, Simon waxes lyrical to a yes no question?
Roy Keane could definitely be a Simeone type management figure in an ideal world - being a motivational figure in meetings & on the touchline. I think his problem was that he took on too much responsibility at Ipswich & Sunderland, rather than delegating tasks and sticking to doing what he was best at of motivational & final says on other aspects. Modern day managers have to build a team of coaches, analysts, scouts & fitness people round about them - it would be difficult for Keane when he's been out for so long to get that at a smaller club, and Keane is not the type of personality to be tolerant & perseverant with novices & new-starts at a smaller club. I also don't think a bigger club with that high standard of team already in place would take a chance on him. Also not sure that Keane's motivated to do it because football management takes over your life & not sure given how long Keane's been out of that mindset if he could ever go back to it. So, in short, I think it is safe to say that Keane's club managerial career in a mainstream European league is over, with the only possible return being to the Ireland national team, or perhaps an outside chance of the Saudi Arabian Premier League, or maybe a mid-season Celtic crisis appointment at some juncture, however, he does have that Simeone-style of management in him.
Ireland needs fresh blood, young blood, blood that wants to win. Get James McLean. He is ready.
😂😂😂
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Still peddling that one boring comment
LFCspectre = Car TWOCER Propa Scouser
Jordanites UNITE ✊️
The problem is that we cant attract a top manager at the moment and Keane would be a presence. It would be important to team him up with a good coach to do the training and technical stuff.
So pay Keane to cheerlead?! He has an easy life, has our Roy ;)
Roy Keane meant get a tune out of players in first few games as Ireland manager, but the long term it would end badly in my opinion. Mainly because Roy Keane wouldn't haven't any man management skills in today game, plus Roy hasn't got a job in over 10 years that's long time out of game especially a manager. FAI need to find experience current manager that plays football is all we want.
He expects player to play for the badge, not like they are doing the club favour
Love Simon to listen without butting in all the time
Why does Martin have a personal problem with Stephen Kenny? He was sacked and replaced (correctly) by Mick McCarthy.
How does he? Kenny is useless
@ReanimatorsMutilations Tough talk, but you obviously never compared the opponents that Kenny and O'Neill have in common, and checked to see who had better results. Kenny (with a poorer squad) achieved better overall results against Scotland, Serbia and also the Nations League games against Wales. O'Neill got spanked in several competitive games, Kenny in none. Note that O'Neill was technically relegated from Nations League B. Kenny has kept us in it twice.
@latergator915 I think the O'Neill era was better in every way than Trapattoni one, but O'Neill seems to have taken it kind of personally when Kenny said he wanted to change how Ireland play - took it as an aspersion being cast upon his own playing style.
Fair play to Scotland qualifying but a lot of these international teams(Rep of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales, Etc) don't have the strength in depth when facing the tougher teams. Second Kenny is not a very good manager either!
Blaming Kenny for Irish football culture not being able to make basic passes is not exactly fair. Ireland fans are being delusional in their thinking.
Chris Hughton should be the manager of the Republic of Ireland.
White and Jordan are like bullies sometimes.
There was absolutely no disagreement, it was just two very articulate and intelligent people having a chat.
I think Martin and Simon are fantastic together, especially with Jim to push the conversation on.
GIVE ROY KEANE THE JOB. ROY be 100 times better than Stephen Kenny.
England always get easy teams Simon. Even in the rugby you get Fiji!
Cry more.
roy keane should be the manchester utd manager!!
Martin O'Neil is an absolute gem of a man. Truly one of the greats. Really incredible.
I think Chris Hughton or David O'Leary would be great shouts for Ireland when they finally get rid of Kenny ... or even possibly Hughton as Manager & O'Leary as Assistant ... Bring the likes of Shay Given & Kevin Doyle onto the coaching staff. Ireland have a potential superstar on their hands with Evan Ferguson so if someone like Hughton can get the others around him preforming and identifying future Irish stars be they from Ireland or through heritage then there is no reason why they can't be on a level par with the likes of Scotland and Wales and thrive to be like England
That is pure fantasy. It does matter what manager takes over the current culture of Irish football cannot ass the ball at an acceptable level. Kenny is trying to play passing football and that is the approach Ireland need to take and it needs to also be practised at club level.
No manager or football pundit sounds like Martin. He is a little big of everything good about football within living memory.
How long does it take for ONeill to answer a question - White and Jordan pushing him to answer quickly!
The FAI wouldn’t have him, he rubs them the wrong way and he’s had plenty of run ins and public spats with them.
Rightfully so, the FAI are corrupt and useless.
You forgetting that he was assistant manager ? 😂
@@ReanimatorsMutilations Martin O’Neill made that happen. The FAI hired him and he was allowed to bring in his own staff. Are you forgetting his bust up with Arter and Walters?? 😂🤣
@@calvinhicks1992 Walters is a tool though
@@ReanimatorsMutilations Regardless of that, Roy was employed as number 2. There is no way the FAI will have him as a number 1, he brings too many problems to the establishment. As for Walters you may know more than me about him, all I know is that when Ireland 🇮🇪 came calling he answered.
Ireland have a very limited squad, and were drawn with three former winners of the trophy. It was a damage limitation exercise that was largely quite successful. No thrashings were suffered, two were administered (Mick McCarthy had actually struggled to beat Gibraltar). Mbappe and Griezmann were both kept scoreless. Kenny became the first ROI manager to register a goal against Greece, after three had failed to score against them (and those games were friendlies). We are still in UEFA Nations League B (something which damaged Stephen Kenny's stats / win percentage etc.) - with relegation play-offs now being introduced, the next manager will be doing well to keep us there.
He should be given a chance for sure
Set yourself low standards and achieving it 😂
I cant stand it when a gentleman, and so well manered and well spoken man, gets interupted by a bafoon who thinks he has a right to interupt everybody when he decides to speak. get some manners simon
Roy Keane won the 1999 euro semi for Utd And David Beckham won the final
Get Robbie Keane and Roy Keane in good cop bad cop combo 🤣🤣
Love Martin 😂😂, why do you keep saying right Jim? 😂😂😂
Roy wants to work with solskjear
Martin and Roy were that good with the Rep Of Ireland , that Declan Rice and Jack Grealish decided to play for England !! 🙃🤣
💀💀💀
They are both English and want to play for England no? Its simple
They got Ireland to the last 16 of the Euros, going out narrowly to France. That wasn't bad with the group of players they had.
Rice and Grealish are great players so they will go on tournaments with England. If they were average they could play for Ireland if they wanted. Martin and Roy did well, can't perform miracles.😂😂😂
@@nigelxavier883 “Great players”? Steady on. They are good players who may become great in time, but that’s a big if.
We are rock bottom right now...as bad as we have been since the Staunton era. We need a new manager but we are absolutely skint to attract an elite manager.
An elite manage cannot squeeze juice out of a stone. Ireland needs to develop its foot leagues so that players can actually pass the ball and then needs a manager for the national team who is from that league.
@@Art-is-craft I know and theoretically that is a sensible approach. However by the same token you could say Kenny is cut from this exact cloth...held several jobs in Irish football including national youth teams. The quality of players we have right now is between poor and average and to be fair that's not Kennys fault however a more experienced manage would make better use of resources and get more results.
The Welsh are struggling because they've spent the last decade being a Gareth Bale team. Scotland where terrible because the Scottish FA must be one of the worst run institutions I have ever seen in my life.
The Republic should go and bring in Niall Lennon
Cop out from Martin O Neill saying that you can't implement a style of play or coach a style of play as an International Manager down to time constraints. Bielsa in Uruguay, case in point.
Roy's happy to talk the talk and act the class clown for sky sports rather than get back into football. As a wise man once said, " a spoofer Bill!".
Here here well said 👏👏
Simon Jordan DISAGREES with most people and sometimes himself if left alone
The football played under O'Neill and Keane was absolutely dire where the opposition are allowed keep the ball and a Shane Duffy header is our only way of scoring. Maybe that is why the Irish public have been patient for so long with Kenny.
Point taken but in fairness the midfield they had wasn’t able to play
@@45pints87
It is not just the mid field the whole team and nation cannot pass the ball. Ireland needs to develop its national game.
What Kenny's team has produced is not better, in fact it is worse.
@@Art-is-craft We just need to start with the soccer team passing for a start and worry about the nation later.
@@bmw-e30
By nation I mean the football culture of the country from local league straight through to national team.
Roy Keane will change a lot if given the chance to manage Ireland 🇮🇪
It was impressive the way that TalkSport managed to make the show about Ireland today and not Scotland when they qualified last night. 👏
lmao yeah how dare they talk about Ireland
We're watching in Ireland 💚😂
I’m Irish and I think we need to cap every u16 and up at senior level😂😂😂
Couldn't get a sober scot to come on the show after the celebrations.😂
@@roamey
Ireland needs to develop its domestic game. That means starting at the very bottom. Passing football needs to be developed.
Matin O'Neill is brilliant
" a shoe in" 😂 Give over
Please don't give Keane the job. What has he done as a manager to even warrant an interview
Surely at international it is almost just about rah rah and togetherness. They are top quality players. They don’t need coaching. It’s a jigsaw puzzle.
11:19 Very diplomatic 😂😂😂
The increasing popularity/quality of the premier league is starting to churn out players who might not be good enough for England but are qualified to play for the other home nations. Scotland has benefitted from this and I expect the ROI to eventually pick up some of these offcuts. In another era, the likes of Jack Grealish and Declan Rice might be pulling on the green jersey if it were not for the prestige that now goes with representing England. I credit Gareth Southgate with that. The Irish need to create the right environment to attract the waverers. Cleary Stephen Keeny and his 1914 mindset was not the right man for the job.
1914 mindset?
Ireland and the FAI have been a corrupt organisation for the last few decades. Neglected grassroots and riddled with debt.
It’s now being fixed, and it’s gonna take a decade sadly.
Scotland are just getting better results and are nothing to look at as an example. There is nothing that can be replicated as Scotland’s success is just pure luck.
A good manager needs a good captain 100 percent behind him. Then you can do things.
I’m surprised Northern Ireland never went for the former Wales boss Chris Coleman 🤦🏽♂️
Paul Daniels couldn't give Rep of Ireland to qualify with the players they have at the moment.
Who tf is da
I wouldn't think so, given that he's dead.
No Roy Keane is certainly not the man fell out with a lot of the players when he was last with the Ireland squad and he’s been out of the game for years
fell out with overpaid duds. the players were a joke and keane doesn't suffer fools gladly, these personalities are no longer in the Irish squad
@@mrlennon4869 Total lie and pure nonsense. Johnathan Walters give his absolute best for Ireland and qualified the team in that playoff against Bosnia. He is a man of character. Keane accused him of faking an injury and talked in a manner that an assistant manager shouldn’t have. Keane is a joke and should not be taken seriously.
Simon hvn dig at us if we got groups england get everytime wed hv made lots tournaments
England are a pot 1 team they get decent draws because of there ranking. And there ranking is due to consistency of there performances outside of tournaments. Want better draws be more consistent and instead of the odd run at qualification.
Yes give Roy Keane a chance as manager of ROI team. He can’t change the players to play for the badge, it’s different than for your club. For FAI’s financial situation, just look at the ticketing, wanted to go to a game with my son & if I did I’d have to buy two tickets at €120 for two games so €240 tbh I don’t have that money. They can barely fill the Aviva stadium & there ticketing strategy is off putting.
How can an English man decide who to manages Ireland
Let the man speak Simon, so annoying interrupting all the time
Keane or not, employing someone who hasn't been in management for 12 years would be a bad look
Give Roy a go, give him a fair shake.
Simon let Martin speak.
As much as I like Simon Jordan and do value his opinion he was quite rude always interrupting Martin O'Neil
Martin isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
It has to be Lee Carsley
Keane as the bus driver?? 😅😅😅
Struggling watching this. Can Simon not just let Martin speak??!! He's asking him a question n cutting off his answer. Let the man talk ffs.
Would love if Martin and Roy came back. Never had it so good. We are competitive and in with a shout of qualifying for tournaments. It’s beyond a joke now how bad we are. Legacy of Delaney hiring Kenny
If Keane takes a job international probably is the best bet in honesty
Keane has been a manager.
He was a good as his team mate Neville ! 😂😂
My Irish buddies seem to think Kenny has been the worst Irish manager in history.
He has been. He can hardly string a sentence together. An appalling communicator. He doesn't have the players to play the way he wants to so we're nowhere qualifying during his tenure. He knew this when he started but he isn't good enough to have developed a plan B. O'Neill didn't play good football but got us to major finals which is all we can ask for given the pool of players available. Kenny has been naive in the extreme. Get rid.
Should never have got the job in the first place.
Staunton was worse
thanks for that explanation appreciate it@@rosshaugh7937
@@bigjohn1236 Shay Given said on rte that Staunton had a better record surprisingly.
Roy Keane while assistant manager chased players around hotels trying to fight them. Accused them of feigning injuries etc. No wonder Rice and Grealish hung on as long as they could to find a way out 😂😂 both him and O Neil got paid millions for setting the national team back a few years.
Roy needs to work more on his Instagram game. That will help him get a job.
Why not give Keane another shot at it? After 12 years of seeing a different perspective on what is going on with the new talent pool, he might do well. I mean, my God, Rooney has gotten more chances than the clap
The Irish would do better getting Martin O'Neill in than Keane.
There only one keano, there's only one keano 🎵
Martin O’Neil hasn’t got the balls to say Roy Keane is a disaster
I doubt very much that Martin thinks that, but even if he did, he's not gonna throw Keane under the bus on live radio, they are friends.
Roy with a brainy coaching team could be great for us.
Keane too smart to take over that mess.
You can't scare or bully players into being better.
Or playing for the nation you would like them too
Roy Keane? They'd be mad.
Get rid of Martin for heavens sake!... waffler of all wafflers
The 2 of wouldn't let the man speak 🙄