I think that he's got the most beautiful and effortless stroke in freestyle I've ever seen on any human being ever. Just looks like he's not even trying.
The best AQUAMAN on the planet! I love Ian and I'm so happy he'll be competing in London 2012. ...And I'm from Maryland; sorry Phelps, you just don't have IT. LOL
omg...this explains everything! I used to swim like Thorpe (with head looking up) but then changed because all my teammates had their head down. I actually swam slower with my head down in my longer races and my arms got tired more quickly. I'm guessing that by putting my head down, it gave a greater load to my arms (my arms are pretty weak) and weakened the force from my kick.
@jeffvlarson If you check out the video "Ian Thorpe - Beneath the Suit part 7 ( full version )" at around 7:50 (or look closely) you will find that this is not a computer model, but in fact a greenscreen shot where Ian was suspended in the air on a support under his hip and lower stomach. So any differences you see are due to Ians inability to retrace his movements out of the water.
I've been swimming for 2 years, and have been making massive strides. But its its crazy to know that I could not even get close to keeping up with the thorpedo for 25m of a 400m freestyle.
@kris533d yea i didn't get that point. More horizontal and more streamline is actually worse for Ian? WTF??? I thought you wanted to give as little crossectional area for the water to create drag? How do I decide if I should keep my head a little forward or looking straight down?
If you have a rather powerful leg kick then it would be more efficient to have your body a little less horizontal to give more power to the kick. Since your kick is very powerful, it will create more thrust than the amount of drag caused by the non-horizontalness... for lack of a better term. if your kick isn't all that powerful, then you are probably better off staying more horizontal as what you get out of your kick will not exceed the drag caused by your inefficient positioning.
i would agree in some parts of that. but the head position depends on the kick and each person. i mostly swim looking a bit forward kind of michael phelps. but i look straight down when i sprint
yes,most people have told me to look down to be more streamlined. Problem with that is its you more streamlined and therefore more horizontal so his feet wouldn't be as deep as he wanted it to be. I have a question though, Do all swimmers have that bulwark wall ahead of their head that they "breathe behind"?
sorry for my bad english^^ uhm when you look straight forward your kicks drop very low into the water and your kick will bee much more efficient but youll make much resistance or what the fuck its called.
More or less they have described the freestyle(crawl) stroke.Not much of Ian was there.Those are all basics of freestyle swimming,nothing more.Nice educative video but nothing more than that.
For future videos about swimming: do NOT use the crappy computer generated swimmer body employed here. Instead use the actual video of the swimmer and lay any graphics or effects in a layer over the source footage. Take a look again at how INCREDIBLY inaccurate the CGI swimmer's motion is compared to Thorpe's actual stroke (specifically the difference in the kick). The CGI swimmer only confuses people about how to swim, especially when you have actual world-class swimming talent on camera.
His stroke was a masterpiece, a true work of art. What a swimmer.
I think that he's got the most beautiful and effortless stroke in freestyle I've ever seen on any human being ever. Just looks like he's not even trying.
Couldn't find a better video for developing freestyle swimming
The best AQUAMAN on the planet! I love Ian and I'm so happy he'll be competing in London 2012. ...And I'm from Maryland; sorry Phelps, you just don't have IT. LOL
simply divine!
thanks for upload :)
that´s an excellent video
thank you
This is epic thanks.
omg...this explains everything! I used to swim like Thorpe (with head looking up) but then changed because all my teammates had their head down. I actually swam slower with my head down in my longer races and my arms got tired more quickly. I'm guessing that by putting my head down, it gave a greater load to my arms (my arms are pretty weak) and weakened the force from my kick.
the perfect tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jeffvlarson If you check out the video "Ian Thorpe - Beneath the Suit part 7 ( full version )" at around 7:50 (or look closely) you will find that this is not a computer model, but in fact a greenscreen shot where Ian was suspended in the air on a support under his hip and lower stomach.
So any differences you see are due to Ians inability to retrace his movements out of the water.
í keep my head in a streamlined position when im swimming. that means that my body is totally flat in the water which i preffer.
amazing
I've been swimming for 2 years, and have been making massive strides. But its its crazy to know that I could not even get close to keeping up with the thorpedo for 25m of a 400m freestyle.
the actual Ian is so different from computer-generated, especially the arm stroke which is high and almost at the surface
@kris533d
yea i didn't get that point. More horizontal and more streamline is actually worse for Ian? WTF??? I thought you wanted to give as little crossectional area for the water to create drag? How do I decide if I should keep my head a little forward or looking straight down?
If you have a rather powerful leg kick then it would be more efficient to have your body a little less horizontal to give more power to the kick. Since your kick is very powerful, it will create more thrust than the amount of drag caused by the non-horizontalness... for lack of a better term.
if your kick isn't all that powerful, then you are probably better off staying more horizontal as what you get out of your kick will not exceed the drag caused by your inefficient positioning.
@jeffvlarson Cheers for that....I was looking at it thinking....eh that aint how he does it....
i would agree in some parts of that. but the head position depends on the kick and each person.
i mostly swim looking a bit forward kind of michael phelps. but i look straight down when i sprint
I agree the CGI looks completely different. Also I wouldn't recommend looking forward as he does unless you have huge feet like he does.
he swims so diffrent
PHELPS!!!!!! WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!
yes,most people have told me to look down to be more streamlined. Problem with that is its you more streamlined and therefore more horizontal so his feet wouldn't be as deep as he wanted it to be.
I have a question though, Do all swimmers have that bulwark wall ahead of their head that they "breathe behind"?
how do you get your body more horizontal for a more efficient kick?
@erlanfranck The power, I think...
@jeffvlarson Hahaha, your so right man, check out the left hand entry...looks like a fist in the cgi
Does he use a pointed toes when kicking or not?
khavelkova,can u make under the suit video about michael phelps?????so i can compared these two awesome swimmer swiming style
este vídeo me ayudo a mejorar el estilo libre, lo malo es que esta en ingles
michael phelps disliked this video...
Nop. He uses relaxed toes.
sorry for my bad english^^
uhm when you look straight forward your kicks drop very low into the water and your kick will bee much more efficient but youll make much resistance or what the fuck its called.
put size 17 fins on my feet and i guarantee u i swim like ian thorpe
I wonder whether you need talent to do this or if you can gain these abilities by good training.
That's pretty awesome swimming.
Yeah it's a shame the animation is nothing like Thorpe's stroke.
More or less they have described the freestyle(crawl) stroke.Not much of Ian was there.Those are all basics of freestyle swimming,nothing more.Nice educative video but nothing more than that.
For future videos about swimming: do NOT use the crappy computer generated swimmer body employed here. Instead use the actual video of the swimmer and lay any graphics or effects in a layer over the source footage. Take a look again at how INCREDIBLY inaccurate the CGI swimmer's motion is compared to Thorpe's actual stroke (specifically the difference in the kick). The CGI swimmer only confuses people about how to swim, especially when you have actual world-class swimming talent on camera.