Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara | Why Subtext is Important
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This video is an attempt in understanding the importance of subtext and how its better implementation in a scene or a film can add greater emotional value and a greater narrative depth.
Film Details:
Name: Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara
Director: Zoya Akhtar
Screenplay: Zoya Akhtar, Reema Kagti
Cinematography: Carlos Catalan
Editor: Ritesh Soni, Anand Subaya
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IMO best scene was when Hritik cried after the scuba-dive. That dive changed his character from money pursuer to life pursuer.
Yes but they trashed all that effort in the crying-after-the-dive scene when afterwards Hrithik & Katrina start talking about it all openly and explicitly and Katrina lectures him on how money is not the most important crap in the world and all that cliched trite. Loses all depth! They put good effort in depicting Hrithik tearing up after that underwater dive with underwater dive proving to be a journey of self-discovery for Hrithik's character and his hidden depths & potentials to seize the moment. And later all that effort becomes useless when Katrina's character starts lecturing him.
True that.... Amongst the superstar tag holders I find only Hrithik and ranbir a little good at holding the depth in emotions
@@sdd1563 Good observation Zahabia. Yes, it should have been all implicit. Audience didn't need to learn it from a character's(Katrina's) mouth.
@@sdd1563 extremely dumb down
The problem with most hindi films
@@sdd1563 to me that lecture seems necessary
Irony - Rajeev Masand quoted this scene as "unnecessary deviation" from the story.
Prasanna n zoya said that half of the critics of india didnt understand anything....
Prasanna PRSN chutiya rajeev masand
Chopra madam and pan-pasand bhai are nurtured and raised by K-jo and Chopra Corps. What more we can expect from them ?
I give you 2 words - Paid Critics
He is peice of shit
Rest in Heaven Vinit, your videos will keep us inspired forever ❤
hey
what do you mean by the comment?
@@bran8961 he's no more with us.
@@abc7435 really?
You'll be forever missed and thus remembered.
*Re-uploading this after it was blocked worldwide! The audio is also fixed now!*
Cinema Beyond Entertainment blocked. but why?
+Curious Miner Dispute over a clip from Shame... Had to re-edit it.
Rohan Sheth what do you mean by deserve subtext... A movie either has subtext or doesn't
Haraamkhor (2015 film).
goo.gl/search/Haraamkhor
a review on this film is a must
dont worry. i hope you make a great movie (if you want to that is). would be such a treat for all of us.
Rest in peace, Vinit ❤
This is michelin star stuff in an industry dishing out mcdonald burgers.
akhilesh barthwal That's on the mark.!
The most accurate one line description of this channel
Boy boy boy, this comment ❤️
Saying "Michelin star stuff for an *audience* that crowns McDonalds burgers" would be more accurate
I have noticed that the subtext loving people are generally watch a lot of movie, and they have much time to give to themselves and to think sitting silently, or they have grown too mature in noticing minor changes in other's faces in different situations. This type of people are mainly introverts or old.
In India these type of people are rare due to various reasons, mainly economic and educational. This made the Indian movies mainly entertainment oriented.
Couldn't agree more !!!
plus perhaps the wide language variation - if lots of non-native and non-speakers are watching, clothes dance music etc is going to go down better - you don't go to films to suffer and study, especially if you're poor and your life is hard so it's expensive and rare
this is quite true. but if more and more movies are made like that it will become a habit to understand the subtext for 'immature audience"
Nope. You cant generalize. I am not an introvert , but here I am. People dont get me, why I dislike spoonfeeding movies eg- Humaru Adhuri Kahani, but its okay.
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Zoya is just a great director. She understands how to make good film and she’s gotten praised for it. She also got educated at NYUs film school which is just amazing but movies like this and gully boy solidify her as an all time great.
Wow finally an Indian doing such vids on Bollywood
Glory for our nation
Man I feel deep sadness when i realise we will never able to see videos like it anymore.
Super fantastic analysis. Man you and your channel will be the single reason that will uplift the next generation of Bollywood flicks.. Just need hindi version to reach a far wider audience..
Samir Patnaik Almost all cinema art literature and terms exist in english. Not possible.
no, you will surely get threats from salman khan fans
@@deepak3303 lol
He expired 😢
Loved the line - "Indian audiences are not intelligent enough."
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
@@garvita5700 You won't believe I watched ZNMD yesterday only.
@@manu123mann that is..
the most terrible thing i feel everyday...
People trying to show how much they know and how cool they are..
In reality, if just their Instagram {which is just people with no realisation how fake they are} gets deleted half of their world would vanish out.
And it is completely obvious that you watched the movie a day ago..
So do not worry
Why people have become so fake and selfish today or they were like that only and got apparent these days..
Even this man in the video..
He says these things and try to potray himself as the biggest cognoscente of cinema ever born in the history.. whether in reality he just have watched some "Hollywood Classics" at some point in his life aur fir aisi gyaan pelna chalu hogaya...
Anyone reading this..please give your views whether you disagree or agree as I need this.. this is making so frustrating ill... Even if youre not used to writing in comments please do it this time..
Every time I watch one of your videos I end up with unexpected tears rolling down my cheeks for some reason. The part at the end of the video when you go off about what films mean to us is some straight up, no nonsense, powerful stuff. Something that I resonate a lot with. Every day I am faced with choices and crises of thought that can be effectively resolved through the use of all those vicarious experiences gained by watching and loving good films. Love, morality, life, death, happiness, nature, family, friends, history, psychology, thrill, horror, sadness, pain, etc. So many experiences and so many emotions delivered to us so that we may appreciate our lives much better, so that we may become more compassionate, kind, empathetic and loving in our quest to lead more fulfilling lives. I owe a lot to films. A lot of emotional maturity wouldn't have been possible without them. A lot of stability in an otherwise tumultuous life of a somewhat unnecessarily sensitive kid wouldn't have been possible without stories to escape to when the pain of reality became too hard to shoulder. I urge you to keep up the good work.
Ajinkya Tejankar exactly what I felt.. :)
I relate you
That's true
👏🏼
You are not alone man
Sir, what you're doing is fantastic. kudos. I am a fan.
If you're talking about subtext you must mention Satyajit Ray. ♥
Yes please mention satyajit ray. The artist from india everlived.
His way of depicting sensual scenes and intense moments was true art. He is a motivation to us all.
Sir charan kaha h aapke, feeling proud that indians also are interested in Film Studies. Thank you so much ☺
This is the second time I watched the video after 2 years. Looks like there aren't many who understand the sub-text of this channel either.
You really deserve more subscribers bro.
Same bro , I revisited after 2 years and yea...
I have no words to express my respect for your work vinit sir. I am a fan of your words. Why don't you stay for longer? why you left us so soon? I wish I could met you in real life.
Personally one of my favorite film, few of times it happens in Bollywood that the story revolve around 3 friends are being beautiful and brilliant films like Dil chahta hai, 3 idiots, Kaipoche, and of course ZNMD, They need more films like these👍
I think Hindi movies were learning the art of sub-text with movies like these and then as soon as 2017 began movies like Raees, Kaabil, Rangoon,Jolly LLB 2,Badrinath, Ghazi,Ok Jaanu, it is beginning to fade away again. All I see is JUST exposition. Last night I was watching a movie called Bandhan. It was on the TV, I wasn't watching it intentionally. It's like Hindi movies are going back to that age. I hope 2017 brings movies like Aligarh and Piku and ZNMD soon.
Pramit Chatterjee kaabil each good film
Pramit Chatterjee A Death In The Gunj. Check it out.
really in 2017 we had just few good films..
Suggestion :
Watch Malayalam films.
@@sreejith1592 suggestion : Watch Sardar Udham Believe me Naaz hoga Aapko Indian Cinema pe Shoojit Sircar pe
you are a really brilliant critic.
i hope you get international recognition.
Bhai kaise???? Kaise itna koi Soch sakta hai? I am completely amazed. U bring all new spectrum to everything. Great!!
Damn. Close to tears, right now. That was genuinely beautiful. One of your best.
You are making me rediscover my love for nuanced movies. Thanks.
I absolutely love the way you break down each aspect. Your hard work truly shows in your content. I would like you to analyse Baahubali, like how the film struck a chord with the audience and if it's good film or not. I promise you won't regret it.
Vinit masram is a gem
Why did you title it ZNMD instead of simply Understanding Subtext, since ZNMD was only one of the many examples that you gave in your video essay?
Curious.
+Vishakha Shivkumar Simple. Click bait!
Cinema Beyond Entertainment Haha kya yaar. Btw big fan. Recently discovered this channel. There's a film society in college where we have screened all of these films, so I really enjoyed your video.
Thank you Vishakha! Which college by the way?
Sophia College For Women. The film society is run by Mrs. Hira Steven.
I got to learn about subtext when I first attended an acting workshop. Before learning about subtexts, I had great difficulty in expressing emotions in front of camera. Understanding of subtexts is necessary when it comes to acting.
You know it is a HUGE compliment when I say that your channel reminds me of Every frame a painting.
You are simply brilliant in what you show in these videos. Stumbled upon your channel today and watched so many already! Thanks for this!
Beautifully explained. Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Keep rocking man
7:47 - The Conclusion is especially brilliant. Can listen to it all day!
One song affects me still after the many many years. In the film The Victors , during the scene where a young soldier was being taken to his execution for desertion, they played Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas. I always have tears in my eyes whenever I hear this song.
Never in my imagination would I have guessed the reason you would choose to show ZNMD in the limelight would be that scene. I remember ZNMD for its Dil Chahta Hai vibe. But I guess I never picked up on the subtext enough for me to register the movie for this scene. But now I know better and developed more respect for the movie. Brilliant examples of other scenes of subtext.
Edit: it was tough to watch this video sitting in a public place. Tears just rolled down for some reason!
Personally, that was the scene which stayed with me for the longest time after watching the movie
This is so beautifully awesome! Great work! Please keep the videos coming. .
This is one of the most beautiful videos justifying as to why storytelling, intelligent scripts and depth of characters is so much important in a movie. I highly respect you for the kind of videos you make. The clarity of thought, the thorough research and the apt analysis shows in the videos. Thank you for this channel. You make me love cinema even more!
I don't think I have come across channels doing video essays on bollywood movies, and this is honestly so refreshing!! Subscribed.
I love how you've recreated the mesmerizing background score that plays out during the scenes.
I really appreciate your effort towards making the video. I want you to know that you're doing a great job in analyzing the different contexts of a movie. I enjoy all your videos very much. Thank you.
This is something special.. With every video I watch of yours.. It makes me want to go and revisit these movies
God!! Your work is really great, Vinit. Keep it up. It kind of feels more detailed than the last time I saw it.
A lot of respect and appreciation for your work . thank you for showing such aspects of reel life n real life as well. :)
Thanks Vinit for such wonderful insights into Cinéma. I've seen much of your RUclips work. It is thiightful. Thanks again..
Wow amazing, the understanding you have for movie and movie watching experience is great... Love the detailing you have done... Amazing piece of work...
You are one of the best channels on RUclips. This video rely is work of genius. Keep up the good work and all the very best.
You are one hell of a movie lover and man what an amazing job on revealing those small details....
Excellent video. Please keep making more. People like you help aspiring artists understand art better.
Keep up the great work...
I just binge watched 6 videos!
You are god level amazing! 🙏
...wow. I clicked just because I was so excited to finally see video essays about Bollywood, but this went SO much deeper. Not just in the global film references but in what it says about art and humanity. Incredible work.
This is a brilliant and needful video. Kudos (y)
you earned my subscription dude..keep up the good work
Flying balloon scene of Masaan💕
You said the right thing that most of us Indians are not intelligent enough to understand n feel the emotions unless they are forced to.This is the problem of most of Indian audience.
I really appreciate your work. Thank you for the gift of helping us understand our storytellers better.
God, videos like these make me realize why I love cinema in the first place.
And, when will cinema halls open????!!!!!!!
Glad to have this kind of channel in India, thanks for the quality and effort
wow, your outro lines were just so amazingly constructed. its almost filmy!
Brilliant....
More than expected...
Knowledge is top notch about cinema..
And understating of it is one of it’s kind ...
👌🏼
Keep up the great work brother...
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This is your first video I have watched and I want to say is that I love your channel. ♥️
I have been waiting for someone to dissect good bollywood movies. Kufos to your channel. Keep up the good work
Man for your narration, observation, your efforts i don't know what to say... I'm just speechless.
Cant stop watching ur videos, glad this channel exists.
The only Bollywood movie I wouldn't mind watching again. Great analysis btw. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
Man this video changed the outlook of actual life we live
Instant sub
Stumbled across that video accidentally. Great content! It has always been a fantasy of mine to have such critical discussions around movies (without being in a formal movie course) since we spend so much time watching them.
great video man, keep up the good work
Love your videos, our country needs more people who take film seriously as an art form as opposed to mindless entertainment, and you're a push in the right direction!
Beautifully narrated, edited. Underrated af. Best of luck in your endeavors.
It was an amazing video. Thank you!
I loved the way you explained each n every scene.. Kudos.
Love your works!
Excellent compilation and narration!
That was a great analysis , loved it👍
Hey man! I've been binge watching your videos and the quality of the content is just mind blowing. It's such a shame you aren't putting out new episodes anymore. Hope to see you back with more and subscribing nevertheless. :)
I uploaded a video last week. Do check it out!
Cinema Beyond Entertainment oh right on it mate! Keep 'em coming please. :)
great work! keep it up!
I'd be so proud of myself, the day I'll be able to make a single video like yours.
Brilliant observations! Glad there is someone from India, who is doing something like this with an example of Our film, in a web full of all the film channels from west.
Looking forward to more of you ! :D
"Yo you should check out this amazing channel," said the boy's friend.
"nothing special", The boy quickly proceeded to smash the thumbs-up button and hit the red block. how could he miss the bell? And That was a first.
Where has this channel been all this time?! Great job dude! Nice video essay
Watching this gave me goosebumps. And a few tears.
You have a very good eye for good movies and the nuances of storytelling. I wonder why this channel is not famous??
Seen a lot of your Videos recently.....You are brilliant.
thank you for creating this channel ❤
Thank you for this video
recently discovered your channel ...its fab and one of d most underrated one for sure . please do more such videos .one idea - unfolding ship of theseus
Brilliant analysis! I just love to watch this movie anytime and read between lines!!
man, you are genious
you make me cry in every video.
Beautifully crafted video. Thank you
mind blowing analysis.... can't expect better than this.... more learning and knowledgeable video...... superb work
The aviator is a masterpiece😍
I keep coming back to these videos every now and then.
There is one more scene that kind of lived with me through years... is from movie Lagaan.
"When Elizabeth meets Bhuvan for the last time, her eyes were saying so many things and Bhuvan never understood it".
Wowwwwwww man justttttttt wowwwwwww thank you for telling how a great scene really works.. This knowledge is something justttt beyond the words for me.. Plz keep on making such GREAT CONTENT ❤
Awesome analysis. Just loved it.
Just when I'm starting to write 2nd draft found this. So much helpful. I can overlook my dialogues now to improve them. Thank you. 😊
I appreciate your eye for art. Hard to find people like you( I'm one of you). Hope Indian people start appreciating good cinema.
Man i love your work keep goin
Wonderful. I really in search of Indian channel which is making film literacy and I found you. Please keep it up