HOW TO SOLDER COPPER PIPE FITTINGS WITHOUT SNOT - My plumber methods
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2019
- How to Solder copper pipe or tubing fittings without getting snot, or runs - This can be challenging...even for us seasoned plumbers. In this video I show you my little tricks and tips and not getting those runs! I'll cover cleaning the copper pipe, fluxing the pipe and fitting properly and applying solder and heat from your blow torch at the right settings and times. Who knows...I might not get a run either!
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I'm not a plumber, but enjoy diy. Previously my soldering has never been good. Your videos have guided me to get leak free joints. After a bit of practice on scrap I've refitted our bathroom including relocating 2 radiators, toilet, sink and bath with a concealled tri valve shower bath set up. Can't say some of the joints aren't snotty, but they are solid and leak free. Keep doing these top -tastic demos.
Sorry to the plumbing community.....you've lost one job and I've saved a few quid !
Should’ve put a test on!.....I take pride in my pipe work & soldering but I don’t get this obsession with seeing ‘no solder’!?!
Yes make it neat & clean with no snots but I’d rather walk away knowing it won’t crack easily!........how many times have you pulled a weak joint apart because there was barely any solder on it???
Keep up the good & entertaining work! 😀
Paul W id rather see snot than a leak. I agree I try to make it tidy so I see a bit of solder but if it snots so be it. Just make sure you clean it up so the flux doesn’t corrode the pipe
Paul W my soldering is as rough as fuck Paul, in fact I’m one of these time-served rough bastards, that the course cowboy wankers drone on about!! But I’m fast as fuck, knowledgeable & make loadsa money!!
Fibre Washer yeah same here mate (apart from being rough as fuck).....if it can’t be seen yeah whack a load on but if it’s on display I always try & make it tidy!.......my work partner leaves it looking like a church candle, more snots than Gilbert!! 😂👃🏻💦
So true it all gets lagged and concieiled anyway
Michael Dineen yes it should do around boilers & cylinders anyway! 👍
In nearly fifty years of doing plumbing I've only had 2 leaking joints ---my first two. Then I was told to clean everything including the inside of the fittings and use flux and finally don't be afraid of using solder. I don't care how" instagram plumbers " can make it pretty---I can make it leakproof all the time.
Does using a blow touch affect health. Does it give off fumes. I'm planning on doing some pipe work around the house
@@AMMO1981 ….
Install guy or service plumber? I’m in service and my dads a plumber so I learned young how to do it but started my apprenticeship and I have really gotten good the last few months but none in 50 years seems impossible my old man had a call back for a slow drip on a solder joint he did a few months ago and he’s been doing it 35 or so years now
Ive always found it helpfull to bend a slight kink in the solder to make it easier to reach around the fitting.
Personally id sooner see a bit of solder than have to drain everything down and reesolder a leaking joint.
Surely a good joint is a joint that doesn’t leak . No point in saying to the wife how neat the soldering is when you are stood ankle deep in water .
Great video had me chuckling as usual
Gixer750pilot lol very true mate .
ditto.
And a pro attitude says ....the solder you see around the joint or dripped on the adjacent area is just a waste, and doing nothing to prevent leaks .. agree in as much don’t over fuss as time is precious to 😂😂
Rick Aldous solder is cheap . Leaks are expensive
No worries mate. Just prevents a dry one.
James it’s also a great good rule to remember the capillary action ( suction of the solder) will always follow the heat , so if a vertical joint looks like it might go to forming a snot then draw the flame up the pipe work in the opposite direction and if it’s not drawing in encourage it by stroking the flame again down the pipe in the direction you require ! It’s a simple rule and works !
I've watched many youtube soldering videos and the one thing that all fail to cover is how to solder multiple and close fittings. Searched and searched and finally your site popped up. Totally fills the gap left by the others. Looking forward to going thru your others.
Cheers dude!
I love this guy he’s so helpful and funny it’s amazing! Thanks 👍🏻
love it when you do level 1 & 2 stuff thanks it really helps.
Thanks James. My soldering has much improved sinse watching vids from you and Pete. 👏
As a keen DIY'r I am about to renovate an old house, ill be doing all the plumbing myself including new soil pipes etc , new kitchen, bathroom, on-suit toilet and on-suit bathrooms. your videos are the best I've found and contemplating filming as I do it :)
Super helpful vid for me again. Nice one Jimbo.
Good work sir James keep smiling
Thanks for the videos. Really enjoy your channel. Thanks to you I've finally learnt how to solder properly! Many thanks!
Paul Wright haha! No worries dude!
I genuinely learn something every time I watch your videos, thank you 👍
No worries and thanks. Check my other channel if you want to learn about history.
plumberparts looks interesting I’ll have a good look at that 👍
Let's GO !! Love the video. I am not a plumber. I just love playing with copper pipes and try new things out
Great videos, I'm not a plumber but used your videos to help replace a soldered on leaking vent valve on our heating, I ended up using a Yorkshire fitting, that way I knew I had enough solder.
Entertaining and informative as per usual👍 keep em coming boss.
Great video mate awsom
great information enjoy the video.
Nice one. Must admit I have been making my joints much tidier since watching your type of posts on Instagram and you tube. I won’t be going as far as brasso though just wire wool to shine it up! When I was an apprentice over 30 years ago the guy who thought me would even put solder in a solder ring fitting.
I love you James!
You doing great work
Love these videos
Hold tight !!
You are amazing you are doing great job I have learnt so far a lot from you and I am doing Level 2 plumbing at the minute in college so if you were living in South Yorkshire or in Sheffield area and Rotherham Barnsley I would have loved to work with you for free and learn a lot from your skills
Wee telescopic mirror is handy for checking the solder has run all the way round the joint.
Dan Gordon never thought of that myself
Agreed Dan, spot-on m8....!!
Plumbers are the best !!! I'm a plumber for 5 years , 23 now .✌😈🦧
Laughing at the crosseyed action 😂 brilliant video
Greetings from your plumbing cousins across the pond! Love your videos. Liked and subscribed!
Don't forget to de-burr inside the pipes, help keep the flow laminar , as turbulent flow can cause pin holes to form.
Maybe that's not a brit plumber thing... guarantees repeat work in the future
I use maroon scotchbrite pads for cleaning, unless the pipes really corroded or painty. Most of my stuff is brazed which I find easier!
proud to be a plumber
The channel is the best
Brilliant, now subscribed. Love how much the fumes from soldering has turned you into the crazy plumber 😅
I just made my first practice solder joints on the workbench. It was snotty and runny and blobby. But second one much better. Practise makes perfect. You learn by doing. Stupidest thing I realised is it’s much easier to hold the solder in your dominant hand so you have control of it!
Older pipe is actually easier to solder and not get runs. It has a thicker oxide layer which resists the solder sticking.
Some key tips for soldering an upside down joint CLEANLY are;
-Only clean the area you want solder to stick to.
-Wipe off excess flux.
-Heat the pipe first until the solder sticks to the joint, and then the fitting. This will build up the oxide layer and roast any flux that has dripped. It's also important as it helps prevent the fitting from getting "roasted".
-Apply just enough solder and apply it in several spots around the fitting.
4 min in. Love the crazy close up crazy 🤪
Hi Mr Plumber
i realy like your videos your funny and your very good at your work and thankyou for all your videos cause it realy helps 1 thing i wanted to say is that no jobs are same alot of times when we have to repair a joint its in awkward positions like a boiler in a unit tight spaces we cant take our blow torches 360 degrees as you would know i would rather use a solder fitting to keep the fitting gaurateed not to leak what im asking is please do some awkward joints where you would have to cut the pipes what would you use and your best way of doing it thankyou again
hiya james is it possible to get some videos on boiler repairs and maintenance. thank you.
YOUR THE BEST JAMES
FANKS KEV!
just to stick my £2.50's worth in there as a diyer thats learnt to solder from videos like this, mainly his earlier ones lol is not to add solder where your flame is, i noticed you did it a few times during the video but as you did you moved the flame, thats fine but i remember when i learnt on off cuts like what your using your not concentrating on the whole thing as a newbie and just on one thing at a time like the flame or the pipe or where you putting the solder, so basicly what im trying to say is if you stick the solder into the where the flame is heating you run a big risk of the flame just melting the solder and it running and dripping away from what your doing, my other tip as a diyer is the sound of the flame, i have the rotherburger n fries torch, when i first started i got used to the noise of the flame, theres a borderline of the flame making a noise, just under there being no noise was great for 15mm and slightly higher just so it was making a light roaring noise was great for 22mm, again im not a pro just a diyer but if i knew what ive just said when i had my first go id be happy as a pig in sheet
A couple years ago I was introduced to a product called everflux I was skeptical about not having to clean the copper at firstbut I would never go back to the original method again unless the copper is absolutely oxidized or filthy. I swear by that flux it has saved me so much time
I like to clean my solder as well just a quick wipe down with wire wool before I start
Do you recommend using compression fittings on radiator pipes under the floor or soldering is best ? ❤
Spot on 👍
THANKS!
Hello mate. I want to buy press toll which one u prefer. Please
Yo boss I’ve got a small crack in my shower base any tips to help fix it?
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3:50 I didn’t like this vid until you did that 😂
plumberparts chill winston . Can’t please everybody mate . Subs are going up that’s all you need to look at
plumberparts less coffee treacle tits
You only need another 12 bends and 16 more fittings and you've made a simple kitchen sink hot and cold feed for any newbuild house. #coppertree
Too right. Don’t think they can use a scissor bender these days.
I like your vids. Entertaining and educational. And yes the cheesy quips are funny. 👍Hahaha😀
This is the 2nd video ive watched on how to do this and if the first one was correct, then this one is wrong by adding the solder at the top and letting it run down. Other video said add it to the bottom and have capilllary action draw it up and into the joint. If ithe solder is running down you dont know if it is going in to the joint or not?
What’s the reason for turning the torch right down? Just to give you more time or to avoid burning the fitting out?
in case you didn't catch it, use your flux brush/flux to wipe away excess solder while the joint is still hot
Have you ever been told you look and sound like (a young) Bradley Walsh? Great vids, I’m learning a lot from you!!
Loadsa times. The Mrs love it.
I Think he sounds like Tony Robinson (baldrick)
I don’t think his Mrs would love the Baldrick look!!!
And Tommy Robinson 🤗
Can you do a video on pipe freezing kits and how to use them
Is there a minimum length of copper tubing we need to leave between each fitting?
Do you have a video that you cut the fitting to show how much solder has taken ,thank you
ok ,where can I learn about this.. Why is when its heated, the solder "sucks" in? I assume there is some kind of heating cooling suction reason but I'm just guessing. I'd really like to learn it.
Cheers mate for this. I’m not a plumber by trade so never had the balls to do pipe soldering but following your last couple of vids I’m going to dig out some bits of scrap pipe and fittings get a torch and give it a go. Always having to call in a plumber to do odd little jobs like capping off etc. Is the process the same for gas pipes? Just worry about a torch in such situations for obvious reasons 👍🏻
Mate with Gas you’ll have to get a qualified fitter in. Otherwise if anything happens you’ll be living off the Queen for a while!
plumberparts oh yeah completely agree mate, wouldn’t touch it at all but just wondered if the process was different 👍🏻
Lmao whata guy xD awesome video haha
Love the videos you are as mad as a box of frogs lol
Thanks Chris...woof!
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With my torch, if I have a small flame like yours, the nozzle glows red hot, so I have to have it roaring to keep the end cool (sounds backwards!). Is that just because I'm using Mapp gas? What torch do you use?
mapp gas is great,heats the joints up much easier especially 22mm to 28mm joints.
I only use MAPP gas for extreme situations like repairing slab leaks when holding back the water might not be perfect. But otherwise you should use regular propane.
I have a steel tube bird feeder which has rusted, I have cut the rusted bits away and fitted copper couplings. They just need soldering or brazing, have you done a vlog on this sort of thing?
When working with completely dissimilar metals, I've had better success using some other method like epoxy or a mechanical fitting like compression.
Any tips on soldering copper to brass, ie a meter Union. I always make a mess of it
I did one recently. My tip is to apply gentle heat only to the brass union
Best advice I can give you is try to pre solder the union on its side, try to heat it up evenly. Lay it vertically on the nut and put your 15MM guide under the CU side.
HI Sir , could please recommend a plumbing book name for me to buy online ?
There's an American plumber called Big Tony on RUclips (at least there was, havent checked since). I saw his system years ago which was to make up the pipe with flux etc and then wipe over with a rag impregnated with transmission oil before soldering. Never tried it but understand the method behind it. May be worth a go
Deffo going to look into that!
With larger non solder fittings tinning the joint first can stop leaking fittings
Btw I think the Ox rachet pipe slice needs to be added into your amazon shop.
3:50 lol
Hi, I have a question.
What to do if the sink or shower outlet is lower then the septic tank intake?
Use a saniflo's waste pump
Use a saniflo' waste pump
What are your thoughts on pre soldered copper fittings? Must be quicker to use those?
would like to know about that too
Plumbers don't tend to use them. And if we do, we still pop a bit of solder in...it's just how anal we are!
Where can I get a plumber tshirt amigo?
Luvly
I'm 32 and live in the north east is that too old to start to go back to college and learn the plumbing trade?
Most of the time pipes aren’t on show, in a cupboard or boxed in. I’d rather sleep at night knowing 100% a joint won’t leak, than its appearance. Not a glooby mess lol, but solid. You can also get a thin reel of solder, rather than standard fat stuff. (Hard to find but thankfully one local supplier for me stocks it - one out of many)
Should do a video on bad ways to solder
Just wondering what fuel is in your torch? Where I'm from blue is propane, yellow is map gas, and red is oxygen.
The Red bottle he is using is also Propane which you would see in a Blue bottle like you've stated, Oxy Acetylene is Maroon, sometimes Grey/Maroon.
There is no such thing as maap gas anymore it has been discontinued they jus keep the writing for sales purposes
when you see the flame turn green on the other side, it's ready to to take solder
was that an Aphex Twin reference @3:54?
Silly question, why do you not solder all the way around the joint? Does the solder get drawn all around the joint automatically?
If you apply your flux correctly, yes exactly as you guessed.
Quick question, I'm not a plumber just a DIY enthusiast. If they have banned the use of lead solder and flux that contains lead why is it still allowed for older house's to have lead pipes leading to the property?
It's around because not all pipes and repairs are for potable water and there is a demand. If drinking water is involved, you shouldn't be using lead.
Good video, little bit too much heat on the 15mm as was cherrying a little. I'm suprised your not always bending the end of your solder as you was struggling to get round the fitting. My boss prefers leaded but green all the way for me. Keep up the good vids, debating the fluxuator thingy for my kit :)
Fluxuator isn't actually that bad. I've purchased the 15/22mm version. It can also be refilled, although I haven't tried yet.
I press pretty much all my fittings nowdays. On the rare occasion I solder. It saves me putting for a hot works permit on sites 😊
@@rayc1503 always good when you can get the bulky press tool in, I spose that's what hep2o is made for these days :) I was always trained using the big gas bottles, lugging them up a roof space was a pain in the arse!
@@mattkainicram 10+ years in this trade and I still have many things yet to see. Everyday's a school day, right.
I'm glad I've never had to do that lug massive cylinders about. I'll be glad the time when press fittings become more popular. Hopefully the prices will come down, slim chance though😜. Saying that more and more of the guys I see on site are using them too. The fluxuators actually not that bad. Go on treat yourself geez.😊
@@rayc1503 haha thanks mate will do, I've been doing it 12 years now and like you say still a school day :) we used to always use Yorkshire fittings up to 63mm so pretty much a 100% water tight fitting. Slight increase in price but not alot
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3:49 - Lmao
Omg 3 mins 50 Pissed myself so funny
I'd have loved to have seen this pressure tested. You may just have got away with it. Very nervous action there lad. :)
The key is cleanliness is godliness. A heat mat to prevent burning behind the pipe work. A bit of dry rag to wipe off excess solder. As advised don’t overheat the fitting.
Currently studying level 2 plumbing in college and just to let some of you know if your wondering why solder can go up the fitting it’s called capillary action this is when two objects are extremely close together
soldering doesnt work by capillary action, the heat is pulling the solder into the joint. capillary action is when a liquid such as water climbs upwards between two objects with no assistance
It’s capillary action google if
@@jamiedyer7782 No youre wrong, in my country we used to call solder fittings as capillary fittings, does that make sense to you?
@@charlieshargreaves2310 You are right mate
Mar Cel I funny you reply I was thinking about this comment today ! How weird . Thankyou man
How are thee lad
Yeah all looks good on a bench, I also take pride in my workmanship however try making your solder that neat and actually on a job under floors up and close round the back of toilets and cisterns trying not to either melt something or scorch something so on and so fourth basically while on the job not so easy .
You should check the video I did a few years ago...called Soldering in real life. You’d be able to relate...
Heat radiates equally in all directions, only heated air rises.
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After skimming the comments after viewing this video,
IMO it's missing 2 critical steps...
1. Proper technique applying the flux. This is one of the most important steps... after GREAT cleaning with sandpaper or emery, you need to apply flux VERY liberally (you can't add too much if it comes to that), and pipes and fittings should be joined with both a push and at least a quarter, maybe even more than a half twist to ensure all flux is spread perpendicularly to the pipe's direction, ensuring solder will flow similarly. If solder flows only in the direction of the pipe, you will have gaps and leaks.
2. You should immediately cool each solder joint immediately with a wet cloth and not wait for the joint to cool naturally. Until the solder has solidified, you do not have a solid joint.
Excellent video. I do electronics and I'm not really into "big stuff" but this has shown me "da wae".
My grandma had a new boiler fitted recently. The gas pipe had to be renewed. Every joint is disgusting. Green, dribbly, minging. Time served gas safe guy too.
How do the Instagram pipe polishers get no solder showing?
Paul Hamilton take the pic before it’s been soldered 😆
Technically, this video is missing an important step... Wiping down the hot joint immediately after the job to solidify the solder. Doing that should at least remove almost all excess solder so no blobs show. That should be good enough but if you want to take it a step further you can finish up with some emery cloth so no solder shows at all.
I like extra solder