Breaking News! Federal Court Rules Sleeper Berth Time Beyond 8 Hrs Must Be Paid For Team Truckers
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Alex do an investigation videos on how drivers are screwed over wage payment. Especially how companies classify drivers as contractors and put all responsibilities on them, and avoid responsibilities themselves and avoid taxes, etc.
Drivers are drivers/delivery/work on site are all in the world not just the US,I was paid at the begining of my shift from leaving home(variable starting hours) in the united kingdom.I could start say 0100hrs early morning and my pay started when I left home,I get to the yard and (might have to alter my load)do my checks on the truck walkaround,no faults then I fillout my daily cherck book with speedo reading and tick all that I have checked on or around the truck,insert the my tacko card and start my work securing my load,all done I set off starting my own stop clock(cannot do more than 4.5 hrs driving)to work down 4.5hrs,I stop to have the legal 45mins break, check load again & reset my stop clock to 4.5hrs counting down.if I arrive at my delivery point I stop my timer & tacho to work time.I would hiab my load off the truck(I never see any US trucks having a crane or on a side curtain having it's own forlklift truck)Why not? you can off load your own load on the road or other flat land and drop it off yourself or take into a property.Look on the website for the following " Moffetts are specialist forklifts Trailer mounted forklift to provide onsite lifting solutions,Meets all trailer regulations,Easy to detach and deploy,Excellent manoeuvrability - quiet and reliable,Offers load lifting capacity up to 2 tonne "@@jjvigilante
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I'm tired of everyone wanting hourly pay. I make 75 c p m and that comes out to $52.50/hour. The highest hourly pay I have seen for a truck driver is $26..... Really sounds like you are on board to cut my pay in half!!!
@@kellendavis8638where they pay 75 c p m what kind of hauling?
Every driver should be paid not just team drivers
Step in the right direction
It's only for teamsters?? I think I might start team driving
Been saying this for 15 years now it's not a hotel even then the higher ups still gets paid for the trip all expenses paid oh yeah on those trips they all so get drunk and getting paid for it all meals paid for open your eyes 👀
@@trukngal or become a mentor and train 🤣🤣
@@trukngal having your sanity and privacy is more worth it. I would never do team driving.
Also 34 hr resets on the road should be compensated!!!!
The problem is , companies don’t know if you want to be there or not.
@@drblitz3092 who wants to be in middle of nowhere truckstop for 34hour with no pay / limited pay??
Especially when being forced into a reset when you still have hours on your 70...Variant...🙄
From the moment a driver logs in at their home dispatch yard to the moment they arrive back at their home dispatch yard and complete their duties should all be work time. That is the only way to fix the OTR industry.
Ion my truck and my company and I will say if you're not laying your head on your bed at your house at night and you're in A. Truck you're at work.
So, you want to get paid to take a 💩, shop at Walmart, and eat cheese burgers? You entitled princess are why no one wants American labor anymore. Why would anyone want to build a factory in the US when the people have that attitude.
Wrong
kiss your job good bye then, minimum wage sucks, the market should determined the wages
@@DAViDD767 I said nothing about the actual wage. In fact I think there should be no minimum wage as it is purely a political stunt and government interference. However the reality is that once you take control of the vehicle, you are responsible for it for the entire time.
Those should all be on the clock hours no matter what you are doing until the truck is turned back into your home yard. So whatever hourly wage the driver agrees to is what they get.
That would also force shippers and receivers to do their own jobs in terms of driver waiting time because now the burden would not be on the driver who has no control anyway beyond being on time (within allowable driving hours).
All drivers (team/solo) should get paid for having to stay out on the road, not sleeping in their own bed with family, while still protecting the load
This is big win, most of the companies force team drivers wait and sit for hours and days and don't pay or pay little. What about SOLO, Solo is very underpaid as well, there are countless hours days years that were never paid for while at work and plus extra work and "favors"
The moment I stop ✋️ doing favors is the moment companies get uptight with me.
100$ per day per diem for sleeping in the back. 400$ for reset on weekend.
We're sleeping in the truck away from home. We dont CHOOSE to be there, wed rather be at home with our families not in fargo north dakota waiting for monday for the warehouse to open.
Or unload and reload waiting when crew goes to lunch or does not show up to work.
@@patrickreynolds801or the 3 smoke breaks you see them taking next to your truck while the receiver takes forever
I don’t miss those f***ked up days not one bit! I was thinking about going OTR again and guess what? I’ll work security full time making 16 an hour over OTR!
Dude I'm so tired of taking resets every weekend on the road. Its the most dreadful part of being out there, essentially 2 days of absolutely nothing. can't move the truck bc no "PC" ... If I was being paid for my time out there, it wouldn't be a big deal. But I'm not, and I absolutely despise it
@@jibril2473I'm almost to that point too... Come back home and make way less money but at least be home and have a life with freedom to make decisions I want to make
Stick together down the road , and stand up for yourself DRIVERS.
Drive hours and on duty should be paid hourly,not by miles. Cap is 70 hours. All hours over 40 should be time and a half.
Mileage should be at time and a half as well. .50 should be .75 after 40 hrs
#overtimefortruckers
Yes the drivers should get PAID TIME AND A HALF for ANYTHING OVER 40 hrs-EVERYONE ELSE DOES!!!!
There are times when you would make less money if we were paid the way you suggest .There are multiple ways of getting paid it all depends on the company you work for .And how far you travel and what you do .There i no one solution that works for everyone.
it will just get put on an owner ops truck or that freight will get brokered out. i don't think it will happen@@dman3531
I got into trucking 4 years ago. I will say that we get screwed on pay. I can't believe how these companies been screwing drivers. We work off the clock and on the clock, it's sad.
If you get caught up you will pay the ticket.
Well something I look forward to now. Trying to get my first job now that I have my CDL and was going to choose this company.
Drivers should be compensated for all time spent doing their job. When in the truck, you are never truly off duty.
True
So true !
Absolutely correct
As someone who has had a class A license since 1992 (NYS), I've been saying this for decades. Once you start at your home yard to the time you complete your trip back at your home yard is all work time no matter what you are actually doing. That is the absolute reality as you are responsible for the truck for the entire time it is under your operation.
@@kmg501 I worked one time for a private carrier that paid us the whole time we were out. Didn't matter if we were sleeping, showering, eating, or whatever. They paid all our meals too without any $$ limits. Bought us new safety boots every year and furnished uniform shirts. Bought our laminated motor carriers atlas and anything we needed to do the job. Gave us cash to pay tolls, etc. Gave us a cell phone too. Usually out 4 days and then home 3 days. Best trucking job I ever had.
As a team driver I hope this applies to everyone soon.
Another part of the original suit dealt with the fact that whenever students who went through school there didn't complete their 10 month contract, they were being charged 6500 dollars for the schooling, which was put on their credit reports as a collection till it was paid, when in actuality, the court found that they were only paying the schools an average of 1200 to 1500 dollars. The court ruled that CRST couldn't be charging students any more than CRST had actuality paid the school.
I did CRST training school do you know the name of the law firm doing the class action?
Swift transportation is charging me 11,000$
@@austro3852 I would contact a lawyer. They've already been told that they can't charge you anything more than what they paid.
@austro3852 holy shit that's too much
Why don’t you guys go to private school and pay less for the training
They Should pay every hour your in that Truck.
And your toilet paper would cost 100$. Wher is that money gonna come from? You might want to change jobs.
A truck driver should be paid for every single minute they’re inside their truck if they’re working. If they’re OTR they need to be getting layover pay for the duration of the time they spend in the sleeper berth.
Our company pays $15 per hour over 4hrs waiting on loading or unloading and $150 layover as a cap for $15 hourly if delayed more then 11 hours.
@jonnybergin7711 shouldn't be a cap on pay. You can't cap on waiting. I have seen them dead head you just to say that you moved, or by time you get there say load cancel
Retired Fire Officer / Paramedic / Hazmat Tech about to turn Truck Driver here.
We can be in an ambulance, Fire Engine, Ladder Track or any Fire Apparatus for 24 hour shifts, paid.
Sometimes the Rookie / Newbie maybe held over for another 24 hours for staffing paid. We had to be in a state of readiness with safety being our first priority.
Shaking my head that Truck Drivers are not paid while waiting for next load or during sleep. is not fair labor practice.
How the hell the trucking industry is not paying for Truck Driver line of duty work while sleeping or Driving a truck is not a fair labor practice.
When a driver or couple driver check their truck before, during, after load drop off, waiting for the next load assignment while still in the truck, in a state of doing their job or readiness, is hours worked.
Lawdy, Truckers are essential workers. I hope this is worked out before I come alive to be married to the miles!
Would love to see them start enforcing and making rules regarding detention beyond 2 hours even if it's on the broker contract 3/4 time they use excuse sorry shipper or reciever won't pay
My company pays after 1hr, even if shipper don't.
@@wolfsquared mine pays after 2 hours...
4real , cuz if u think about they get 2free hrs on delivery and pickup that’s 4 free hrs outta our 14hr clock which is ridiculous total 🟰 24hrs free outta a 6 day work week
Fortunately nobody wants to drive teams anyway.
Sort of a "win but still lose".
"Thanks".
Heh. That's a good thing.
I work for a large LTL freight carrier.
New rate is 90 cents per mile for top pay teams.
Our bid schedule is 6410 miles per week.
If everything goes as planned.
You know it doesn't.
Never get paid for 34hr resets stuck at a truck stop. Or waiting for delivery. But drivers at some truck stops have to pay to park, and companies don't reimburse for parking fees. Ontario, CA ta and Petro now charge $30 to park, or $50 spent on store.
For any non truckers that are watching this and wondering about the actual size of the sleeper berth; well most are about the size of a standard master bedroom walk in closet.
😅😅😅
Just say jail cell minus the toilet and sink lmao
No more company teams. Good job
You know is coming
We don't get paid enough for the work we do
Should be for everyone running for mega carriers that’s on the eld that take real mandatory breaks
YES!!!, this needs to be expanded to detention time
If truckers could stick together for just ONE week. Y’all could make more than doctors. Pay all hours like any other job or this truck don’t move. And if you’re away from home, all your meals should be reimbursed. If you’re a company driver, they should be supplying you with a credit card to eat
Well you know stupid drivers are going to move the truck anyway
Im down for this 💯💯💯 wish we all could do this !
Im an traveling electrician i get paid miles , driving time by the hour, my food and my hotel. Im making more than most truck drivers out there
Highly doubt it cause these guys just settled for minimum wage, which blows my mind how you couldn’t make that to begin with.
@@teeone10 you know it.
Watch those mega carriers mandate 8/2 splits lmao.
🤣😂🤣😂
You beat me to it😂😂😂😂
That wouldn't surprise me whatsoever.
Yep, this will only hurt drivers one way or another. These companies aren't gonna pay more than they already are.
I see ppl say on duty should be paid by hourly not miles. When i was a company driver i use to break the miles pay down to hourly. And honestly it was minimum wage. $15 an hr so that still wasn't good being out away from home. Even $20 an hour at 70 hrs a week is only 1400 before taxes. Ppl are making that weekly... being paid a miles at 50 cent a miles at the average mile weekly at 2800 miles. And for a little of drivers that still not enough. And that over half bringing home under $700 a week. I also use to be a team driver and decided to go single.. because as team driving you get the same pay as a solo driver because as team say you get 6000 miles between the two drivers at a 25 cent a mile. That
goes towards the truck which add up to 50 cent a mile because you both get paid every mile the truck mile even if you not driving. They pay the team less a mile because its 2 drivers and you get more miles so,they tell you that you get more pay.... But, as a solo the pay yo 50 cent a mile all you have to do is drive 3000 miles and you will get paid the same. Reason why i became solo. Plus you get better sleep when the truck not moving. Either way OTR driving is not guarantee you will make steady pay if something at all. I think every driver should get a minimum pay a week. You can make more but not less. They hourly i feel like not gonna work in the best interest for the drivers. A lot of other things that we wont like might come with that. I'll even take getting a percentage as a company driver😂😂
Truckers for many years have been spit on when it comes to getting paid for what they do. It's time that they finally get paid for everything that they do by the companies.
Lol well I am the company so who pays me
@@ussenterp65well you have to charge more for your trucking services. When the customer your hauling for wants to know why your charging an exorbitant amount? you tell them it's because I have to pay my driver's while their sleeping....🤣😂. See if all that shit works out !! I'm all for paying a good wage and getting paid for your work, but all these new breed, cry babies that think they need to be paid while their sleeping crack me up!
@@billyanderson9574look how low the prices r now on these boards.
Calefornia produce hollers have 2 co draivers in the slepper! You know 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣😂
As a truck driver who gets paid hourly, I have always thought that would be ideal for everyone is to get paid hourly. That said, I worry that if it ever happened, the hourly rate would be set so low that driver's foot often be making less then what they were making by the mile, and that this lower hourly rate would affect those of us who already make an hourly rate.
About to graduate cdl school but I agree, anything not hourly is room to have your pay played with. Truth is, workers have to organize against the powers that be to avoid unfairness in general. If there’s a United front, they can’t screw around if a strike is threatened for example
In reality, they couldn't pay OTR drivers hourly. Too many drivers would take advantage of it by dragging their feet and taking as long as possible so that they could make more.
@Headbanger427
Yes indeed that would be a problem perhaps the solution is a combination. Such as, $10 an hour and 25 cents a mile. Or, $150 a day and 25 cents a mile. So at least you're always getting a minimal pay while you're out, but you have the incentive to put on miles to get good pay.
@Headbanger427 how exactly they have trackers and cameras on everything. Get with the picture
This will hopefully be a good start for a positive snow ball effect. Once companies are forced to pay drivers a better wage. They will be forced to raise their rates. That should help smaller companies and O/O from the big companies undercutting rates.
Hmm not bad! Good win! Drivers been fighting issues like this for 60yrs.
Truck drivers should get paid a daily allowance whether they are a company driver or a owner operator.
I also agree for W2 employees! It's called salary pay, and should be $125k+ a year (depending on type of work like food service, hazmat tanker, and oversized)
All truck drivers should be w2. Making us use 1099 forms for the companies convenice should be illegal.
@@technoDjifydon’t work for those companies. That’s illegal here in California
What If those are the only kinds of companies wiling to hire you?
@user-zt6bt8dp2c what if those are the only kinds of companies willing to hire you. Typically, owner operator paying percentage with 10sp usually ungoverned.
Got a 15 and over from Cali on psp. 2 years left on report. Fought on dataq they won't remove it, got 6 years exp and most companies won't pick me up even though I'm a cross country and back kinda guy. Having done wa > pa, wv > Or on a weekly dedicated run, I can run. One day I'll get my own truck, till then I have to work for owner ops. I am not sitting behind any company driver unless I'm paid company like fedex full benefits, pick n drop real easy. Would love that. 125k> a year for people who WORK.
My dad was a truck driver in the 80s, in West Texas, if he got to a location, and they werent ready to unload, he got paid for every hour he would wait, sometime days straight. Often more money than the delivery itself was worse.
2:20 Wow 4-5k on a cdl school and you cant even make min wage¿?
You pay $5k for school and you're lucky to work 40-60 hours a week making $47-60k a year. 😡
I appreciate the new Law for team drivers.
This is good news.👍🏼
I don't know how any one can sleep when the truck is moving
Honestly I slept better when it was moving then now that I’m solo 😅 I got used to the noise which is why I haul refer now
You cant. You slowly build sleep depravetion a depression.
@@Eli9AThat's exactly what happened to me.
It's awful. I could only get like 4-6 hours of sleep, and even that is being CONSTANTLY woken up by bumps, turns, stopping going, etc. Combned I did it for 2 years. It is soul crushing, at least it was for me.
It's definitely tough. Sometimes I sleep like a baby. Sometimes I'm lucky to sleep an hour.
Companies need to pay more.
Minimum 90k a yr company driver
Why
Because the rest of the country is almost or over 75k a yr in labor work .home everyday.
So why drive when local work pays just as much as a driver .
Turn in those keys, not worth losing your freedom in a box where u cant go nowhere
Gr8 news! O/O's should be able to negotiate that in their rates as well!
Absolutely we need to get paid
Any news on paid on-duty? Overtime after 10-12 hours? Off-duty for longer than 30 min/day?
Ill update when i get some info
I been out here on the road for 30 plus years complaining about this .cheers 🍻 to the drivers
For team drivers, what about solo drivers specially for solo Hazmat drivers? Since the solo hazmat drivers are also incharge of protecting the hazmat load until delivery.
What it all comes down to is: it is still incredibly low pay for truck drivers.
Hats down for all of you OTR drivers! You truly sacrifice with your time. With your life time!
I have done OTR only for 4 months and it is not worth it. I was running reefer and if you calculate all of your hours away from home, it is not worth it! You are always on duty even though you are trying to sleep in your sleeper berth!
It will only worth it if you will be getting payed for each and every hour you spent in your truck. Doesn't matter what you do! Even if you sleep! Only then it might worth to work like that!
True. If you calculate pay per hour, even if you make more money than a lot of industries, it's only because you work so many more hours for lower pay. It's also a lifestyle, not just a job. Though for some, like me, the lifestyle is extremely enjoyable compared to going to a workplace and home every day doing something I don't enjoy. And even though it's low pay per hour, I still make more money than any job I've ever had before.
So I see any improvement as a win on top of the win of a job I already love.
Nice job Alex
I still say all truckers need to start a union thats controlled by truckers
I was thinking that very same thing. Except it already exists. Teamsters are the truckers union. Just ask Hoffa, if you can find him. 🤔
We’re getting paid for all hours. Just divide your weekly paycheck by the amount of hours you spent in the truck. If it doesn’t meet federal or state minimum wage then company is in violation.
No you are wrong there is no federal minimum wage for truck drivers just like for on a farm and witness and bartenders
LOL
@@genegaede3602 I know there’s none. If you want to be regulated like any other job then you become part of minimum wage team.
When trucking turns in to hourly pay and overtime, you will not make more than minimum wage.
No company going to pay $20 or $30hr. Drivers will be complaining not getting paid enough either way so there’s no point. In fact mileage pay is more beneficial if everything goes right.
You can do 600 miles a day in 10hrs at 60cpm= $360 a day.
If you get hourly pay at $20hr for 10hr= $200.
I ran team with a buddy of mine from Ontario Canada down to Texas. We just started with the company it was our first run and they said you had to be in Laredo by Sunday morning so we were there at 6 o’clock Sunday morning called dispatch they said oh you gotta wait and deliver that on Monday, we did not wait that was our first and last trip with that company.
Drivers should be paid 100% of the time in the truck because they represent the company 100% of the time working or sleeping, loading unloading, parked fueling PERIOD. Plus they advertise 100% of the time. Advertising pays millions to some but not to all???
Ugggghhhhh
Thanks for sharing 🎉
It's all insane bee. Driving since 1996 OTR. all 48 and Canada. There are companies local an OTR. paying exactly the same wage as 1996. I'm currently unemployed and refuse to drive a truck local for 20 dollars an hour. My friend in Chicago is 60 came off the road last year PITT OHIO. is who he went to work for 27.50 an hour! !!! In Chicago. With over 30 plus years experience!!!, state tax. City tax. Fed tax and county tax. Now your down to 17.50 an hour. I refuse to work. For that kind of money when bank of America is paying 20 plus an hour for tellers!
All Otr drivers never clock out solo or team. If a load is on your truck all drivers should get paid until we go home
Its been awhile, Alex. Say hi to Jenna for me two! You both make this channel what it is!!!!!!!🎉❤😊
With team driving I’ve seen they are getting paid cents per mile while sleeping so do some companies do it differently?
It's time for the FMCSA to redo the hours of service to better reflect reality IMHO. Not everyone can sleep for a full 10 hours, and i think running 8s might actually be better for both the truck stops and the drivers, provided the drivers can get adequate rest.
I agree
We should have more flexibility on how much "rest" we actually take. Some people can sleep 4 hours and work a 10 hour shift. Others may need 8. It's all on the driver and fitting everyone with the same size shoe just doesn't work.
I'm used to working 100 hour weeks with small amount of sleep. Because I want to make the miles and make a profit. If there was a dedicated account with a small amount of miles, I'd take that any day, but the reality is we grew up with forced dispatching companies pushing the driver to the max.
Drivers have it easy nowadays. Prime with hoppers? That's hilarious. Hahaha
10 hours: 8 to sleep. 2 to shit/shower/shave/eat.
When I used to team drive that's exactly how we did it. It gave us both plenty of time to rest, eat shit shower and shave, it worked out awesome. Another little bonus was that those extra hours not driven rolled over to the next week, kind of like a rolling reset, so we didn't have to stop for 34 hr breaks if we didn't want to, enabling us to continue rolling and making money when others were shut down. Our driver manager loved it because no matter what loads he had, he knew we could run em nonstop, and thus we got better loads with more miles, and we loved it because we got more money as a result of those better runs
@@ChrisL-oz4lp maybe for a solo driver, but team trucks don't come with toilets
A load only pays so much. Per mile will decrease and that will pay your Tim in the sleeper.
its very hard to do anything during sleeper berth on team, the truck shakes so much you cant cook or properly eat .i team on fedex ground . you cannot even sleep properly
Great video alex
This should apply to all OTR drivers, team or solo. At least minimum wage. I'm sure a lot of ppl won't agree, especially the owners of the trucks, but there's no reason for us not to be paid if we aren't home.
With team driving the only off time u truly get is home time. You can barely sleep and cooking is difficult with this truck moving. Been team driving for 7 months and this is true. U have more freedom solo. Can’t wait to see if this actually happens
That’s why I drive local got sick of being screwed by the government and companies. I seldom work over 40 hrs a week at a 4 day work week. Only time I don’t get payed is that first hour of unloading but I get a $50 live unload fee vs 35$ drop and hook so I’m only losing $5 on the 20$ of first hour of detention.
I remember back in the day we would get $40 layover after the first 24hrs. They always came up with a load around that 49hr mark
40
Im here on behalf of Shawn from rosedale in dalton ga
Beeeeep beeeep lets get it
I drive a school bus 6 hours a day 180 days a year and get 23 per hour but the main thing I get is good medical dental vision and retirement . The main thing I don`t like about my job is saying the words" you must stay seated " "keep your hands to your selves " " stop yelling please! ,I need to focus on my driving". over and over again. CRST left me stranded in OK City for 5 days so I quit as soon as I got back to Fontana. CRST have been getting sued for years and they just pay the fines and find new ways to try to get something for nothing and I guess it has been working for them. I also did the math and found out I was working for a sub min wage. Working for them was a mistake in my life that took a while to recover from.
is that company drivers only? or owner ops? I think I heard him briefly say company only?
Only about 10 percent of the industry drives team and most of em only do so cuz they’re forced under contract. Solo drivers deserve all the same benefits and then some.
Wow gotta pinch myself; the federal bureaucrats not playing a blind eye; look the other way policy modern day slavery?
A win is a win for all drivers! Just the beginning to a long overdue process of companies being complacent not paying. Next thing should be getting rid of the free 2 hours!
I highly agree with that!! Everyone loses when you sit for 2 hours for nothing, driver and company lose
Many companies goo closing business this year 2024. Is hard for everyone trucking business ❤
I started with CRST and the only thing I Hated was team driving.
Same. I actually made m
Decent money there. Even as a student.... but i would get paired up with some people....
Like... i dont team with women... at all. Had 3 team ops like that.
And the other 2 dudes.... couldnt read a map.
Last guy ran into a bridge in chicago. It was time to go after that.
It’s not like you can just get up and go home when your running teams. Your held in the truck till the job is done.
From a Canadian otr driver and team driving yes the drivers should get some py to perform their extra duty required in order to fullfill is delivery contract.
As a team driver with schneider my partner and me make very good wages,we have not had many issues with our pay we both consistently make above average pay,of course we are not your typical team we have been teaming since we started driving years ago so we know each other and are like brothers,we fuss,argue,and get on each other's nerves,but we are also there for each other..but I do think this new rule is Great...
I want to help everyone on the road . We are all family
Good thing i get paid percent and i pick what loads i do. I did it as a o/o and now as a company driver i make sure i get paid for everything i do.
Don't know why company say thay pay you by the miles but they don't they pay you Wright when city limits.
That should be for all drivers.
Idk bout now a days, but maybe this will push trucking companies to either limit trucks going to black hole cities or be willing to pay to have dead head miles on them. Speaking of CRST 2015 where we would sit in Seattle for a week waiting for loads out go to LA then get a load back to Seattle to sit another week or sit in Denver Colorado for a week waiting for loads out.
Does this still apply for solo over the road drivers?? Or just for tream drivers??
I have never run teams but find this would be hard to regulate as what is sleeper and off duty as one could call it sleeper time while eating, showering , fueling etc. I also agree drivers should not sit for a day to load or unload without pay, but find this would also be hard on a load by load basis, did you make your appointment time. I would think companies would penalize load and unload for delaying equipment.
Well with team driving whoever finishes driving does their post trip and then you have no choice but to go into sleeper berth for your mandatory 10 hour break to send your shift. I'm with Covenant Transport and we have Platform Science tablets and in order to change your duty of status the truck has to stop.
Are you showering home? At the factory? Nope,so your working.if your showering in a box far away from home it's on them.
Just to clarify the situation trucking companies have steadily lowered pay over the years to the point where there have been multiple law suits for violating minimum wage laws. Courts ruled your pay has to equal at least minimum wage so they add the difference on your check if it comes out to less than minimum. Now this means teams will get paid for more than their 70. You still get paid by the mile but if it adds up to less than minimum wage they have to pay you the difference
I've been winded down snowed in n broke down. Sometimes for days. Never got a penny for sitting for 50 plus hrs. They say we'll there's nothing we can do about that. IMO if we are not home n those wheels aren't spinning for above issues we need to get paid.
All OTR and team should get paid, I’m out driving state to state away from home wth?☹️😭
Fair and simple solution for both sides. Pay by the mile, not the hour.
So far it's been ok. I believe solo would probably be better but before I make the switch I want to get at least a year in OTR. Missy people I talk to say that team driving is how you make the most money being new and not being an owner operator.
Ones they take me out of my house they should pay me! Do they know what it is like for trying to sleep in a truck when it is driving? They need to get out of the office and try it to see how that works out, so Drivers should be paid every cent
I worked there for 3 moths and did team driving also
Does this address Long Layovers?
Glad I’m a team driver 😊
I worked under a union contact that paid for my nights away from home.
Great content... the US FMCA Just needs to go to canada HOS rules
For every good news there's bad news. Lease Purchase Solo driver's are being robbed blind by this company my brother. Lease Purchase Companies are the biggest crooks of all right now!! 😢
So what happens if I'm a trainer that team drives? Do i get paid for the miles my trainee drives and any time passed 8 hours in the sleeper? With this method I can stay in sleeper 12 hours a day, get my trainees pay per mile, and get 4 hours of sleeper pay?
Pay the damn drivers what we deserve.
Most OTR drivers work 70 hours a week and most of the time if you’re not driving you don’t get paid and then they want you to wait 2 to 4 hours before they give you detention pay. My thing is as soon as you arrive at that shipper regard if he’s ready to load your unload you and your own time your clock should start getting paid while you wait to get loaded or unloaded not you give up two hours or four hours for free before they start detention pay. No one talks about that. No one addresses that and I don’t care if you haul and sand or freight. Once you arrive there you should start getting paid if they’re not ready for you that’s not your problem you’re on time for pick up and delivery. They need to start paying this whole trucking thing needs to be looked at so that drivers are out there moving America gets equal pay in the right pay for their time being out there not this nickel and dime shit that they wanna keep on throwing their drivers and meantime they get a full paycheck for the whole time that they’re working but they don’t want to pay the truckers something must be done like I said you won’t have America, and if we get the fuel haulers behind us tell him pay our brothers and sisters, fair, wages for being out there we’re not bringing no fuel to anybody that’s what we need to make happen
👏 well said! I been thinking the same exact thing for years. Nobody really address anything. They just skip over the conversation. Then go to talking about safety systems on these trucks. And that speed limiter crap.. and not about the pay. I agree 100%..
Is this ruling actually going to be enforced? and will all carriers have to obey this law???
Maybe this direction will axe the 11/14 hour rule. As for me I'm flexible with either or
I've had a CDL for roughly 9 months now and the whole time I've been employed with Covenant Transport out of Chattanooga Tennessee. This whole company is team driving..... Will this automatically change here as well. I already know that Covenant Transport will not like this at all. So I'm cautious of bringing this to their attention on my own. What should I do. The last about being able to do activities is crap. I love exercising but it's almost impossible to do and it's dangerous ass well. Because we you know the truck only stops for our reset. THANK YOU..
If this rule doesn't get over turned on appeal to the Supreme Court. Yes it will apply to everybody in the industry. I have a question how are you enjoying your time at covenant?
So let me get this right, as an employer with solo drivers only regulations say drivers have to take 10 hours sleeper birth and I have to pay them for 2 of the 10??
It’s time all drivers get a raise and a full compensation package
I believe this was put into effect about 18 years ago but wasn’t enforced.