Honestly, Nasus is more a pot of boiling pasta. As long as you’re keeping an eye on it, it’s pretty easy to manage, but if you forget about it for even a few minutes, it’ll boil over and all hell breaks loose. Nasus is actually not that great of a late game scaler despite his infinite stacking because it’s a lot harder to farm late game to keep the stacks rolling in and full build ADCs with lots of CC from their team can just delete you regardless of your stacks.
Pta feels stronger for laning imo. After 6 you go aa - aa - e for a really fast pta proc for poke. Do that 3 times and you can run them down with 1 item or just continue to harass after any of the pta procs if they whiffed an important skill or don't respect your damage. I feel like lethal just baits me to all in with the stacks too early and it makes poking harder without the pta damage proc
@@victorleon67 except it's exceptionally good on Kayle given her passive and auto reset as well as that auto reset doing more damage when ur lower. So no, she is in a league of her own here
@@thenamelessgod2308 lt is better since it's better late and good for lvl 1 cheese. Pta isn't as good as lt in late game. U just gotta be more mindful of when you can try to all in with matchups
@@sweetweebygoodness8693 I haven't had a single late game fight where I felt like lethal would've been better than pta. I barely get to stack it because squishy Champs die in 3-4 aa's and it barely makes a difference vs bruisers or tanks. Taking pta for a way better laning phase feels much better to me. So you can't really say one is better than the other. It's playstyle dependent and both have their ups and downs
A combo me and a friend discovered recently by accident is Sion and Jhin bot lane. Sion can use his E to propel Jhin's fully-charged grenade into the enemy botlane. Then you can engage with Jhin W and Sion Q. Surprisingly viable imo
Me and my friend go Sion and Kalista bot, nothing like teeling the enemy champion not to move. sion ults into then then slows them then i alt them. or in reverse order. its great fun
I was watching this, especially the early levels vs riven, and this thought hit me: can't we normalize lane swaps when the matchup is unfavorable for us ? Edit: scrap that, if you're fighting riven or yone, it really makes no difference 😅
I once played a game where i was Kayle top. We were 26 to 5, the enemy team flaming us and telling us to surrender. But then I reached level 16, and the rest is history, we won that game 60 to 40 against champs like Riven, Kayn and Sett. That feeling right there bois, everyone should feel it atleast once.
Wait wait wait, your team was 26 and enemy was 5 and they were flaming you to ff? Or was your team 5 and the enemy 26 and they were flaming you to ff? Because this situation feels like it should be like that...because who the heck asks an enemy team to ff especially if they're behind?!?
@@muizzkazi5432 I knew it 😂 You probably flip this to "we were 5 to 26" 😂 Or maybe I'm dumb, idk 😂 But yeah, such a comeback like that, I've never imagined it before especially if you're 20 kills behind. That's a ton of golf behind that not even getting a bank loan could have saved you from it.
Recently had a game where we were 4v5 from minute 7, 3v5 for another 5 minutes in mid game and then 4v5 again after the first guy came back.12k gold gap and we came back and won. Felt SO good.
I mean, Divine sunderer is kindof hybrid as it gives both armour and MR pen - it's why I used to build it on Kayle in previous patches. It's also bloody good because Q>AA>W>AA>E>AA if timed with sheen/divine procs can be a pretty insane trade early since the max health damage helps guarantee the missing health damage - plus it gives a good amount of healing to offset the damage you take in the trade. That was in previous patches though; not sure if that build would still work.
Ey Skooch, I have another bronze theory for you. I call it the "Ultimate Spear" Pantheon. The build you go is: Eclipse, Bork, Black Cleaver, Dominiks, Axiom/Yomuus and any boots that you need. The idea behind it is this: Eclipse gives 5% Armor pen per legendary Item up to a max of 20% with boots in it. Dominiks gives you 30% ontop of increasing your physical damage by up to 15% if the enemy has more max health than you, and Pantheon gains 10% Armor penetration per R rank up to 30%. Meaning that at full build and at lvl 16, he has a total of 80% Armor penetration. Now add Black Cleaver's armor shred ontop of it, which caps at 30%, and you reduce the enemy's armor by 30%, and ignore 80% of the remaining value. And what little remains in the equation is bypassed by Eclipse and your last item's Lethality. And lastly, you use Press the Attack on him and open the fight with an empowered W with its 3 hit AA, since his W, while scaling with mana, deals physical damage, so your opener already procs 4 hits, or 20%/30% BC armor shred. This means that, regardless of squishy or tank, you will ignore almost all of their armor, if not actually all of their armor, and you will deal current health damage, max health damage and have 2 different sources of percentage damage boosts via PTA and Dominiks. You functionally deal true damage against every single champion regardless of what they build. There is no stat-based defense against this. An offense that breaks all defences, the Ultimate spear.
Oh god the way this was described brought up memories of all the times people took a second to look at my (effective) katarina build. God the amount of people who look at it and are like “What is that build? You shouldn’t build like that. That’s so dumb.” I’ll believe in myself seeing as how this build got me from m4 to m7. And no, giving a champion 1 defense and hp item that also gives light cc and has passive damage and gives scaling hp and increased range is not a bad move especially when your opponents hit like a truck. I’m talking about frostfire gauntlet. Best mythic in my opinion especially for a champ like kat. The only things in my build that don’t get heat are mejai’s and bloodthirster.
Kayle counts as a melee champion early game, so while she is pre level 6 she can fully use items (and runes) that are nerfed for ranged. This can be used for Grasp of the undying, as she gets bonus HP and heals herself with her E every couple of seconds. If you can use it while split pushing, demolish can be used to get gold from turrets faster. Font of Life can be used to heal allies that attack targets hit by her Q. If you want more early sustain, go second wind (poke) or bone plating against all-in champions, for more mid game sustain pick conditioning. revitalize is not only buffs your grasp heal and second wind, but also your W, which will keep you more healthy in the early stages. The second mastery tree can be anything but for sustain i recommend Domination with Taste of Blood (even more heal) and Ultimate hunter. If you can buy it, i recommend sheen for this build as you want to hit the enemy with every E possible and sheen will deal more damage, hopefully getting them low enough to not engage you head on anymore.
I discovered a Bronze theory recently which is cassiopeia/teemo botlane. Teemo can invalidate the adc and the Autoattacks of teemo inflict poison which Work With cassio's E which makes them nigh unpunishable If played well
Yo Skooch i really love your videos and now after a while of playing this with my friends i thought it could become something fun to teory craft for a bronze teory. Basically you lock in fiddlesticks as your jungler and he goes with glacial augment boots futur's market and pots for secondary runes you go domination and go with either cheap shot or sudden impact and ultimate hunter. And he builds full burn with liandri and demonic embrace. Then your top laner picks amumu with tanky stun based runes, and your support picks veigar with either predator or dark harvest and then its up to your preferences for the rest. Up to now everithing seems normal, until at the last second all of you pick smite and build the dagger, you leave top open for the early and build a bounty on him, veigar keeps laining for a while until you think your adc is strong enough to play safe and still cs then you all go into the jungle picking up camps and objectives as you spam gank everyone. The reason you pick these specific champs is the fact that fiddle and amumu ult combo really well and fiddle's fear makes people walk into veigar's cage. Trust me you are gonna have a blast. For clarification on anything you can ask me either here or i'll give you my instagram after you mesaged. Keep up the great content, you are always there when im feeling down and never fail to keep a smile on my face.
nah usually you do build her with ad items like kraken slayer ofc u can build her ap but ur sacrificing more burst dmg in place of sustainablilty The build in the vid is an experimental build
i'd say it depends on the team comp, both builds are pretty much the same but with different damage, so just "if team is mostly one damage type, build other one"
Also because AP has a way better scaling nature I honestly think AD Kayle is only valuable when you play against a Armor stacking team but then you go kraken and IE. The items named in the Video just dont fit with the Champ in generel
mythic are supposed to be good for 1 main thing(yes even bullshit like giredrinker and eclispe have 1 main function)so having a hybrid mythic omnivamp that also grant attack speed seem very all over the place
"Kayle's early game feels like locking in a baby against Kratos" had to be the FUNNIEST shit I've ever heard. Thank you skooch. I needed that laugh today XD I'm literally still crying laughing and its been about 5 minutes since I watched the vid XD. I might have a problem lmao
So you remember the cage right? The veigar+ap nasus combo. What if you turned that up to 11? Veigar's cage + ap nasus fire + morgana fire + ap mf make it rain + uhh... rammus ult, nunu ult? I can't think of someone that has something like the aforementioned aoe that is either jungle or top to take the final slot. You get the idea though, just get 3 other aoe skills in the cage
I have no clue why Kayle is almost always a top-lane champion, when she makes so much more sense as an ADC. Late game carries in bot lane make more sense, because you literally have a role dedicated to keeping you alive long enough for you to farm up and get items, and become a Problem™. As an ADC, her main weakness is pre-6 attack range, but she has a lot more weaknesses top, and in bot you can have an aggressive support like Pyke, who can also help you get items faster while keeping them on the defensive, a Leona who can hold them still while you beat their ass, attack range be damned, or a Blitz who can zone them out from you just with the *threat* of a hook.
5:30 i swear to god at this point skooch basically has a RUclips mafia. like man i known over 20 other RUclips content creators that know and played with skooch.
Have an idea for something like that. I'm Yuumi main, but still I'm curious about this Idea, I couldn't really try it because of how fast usually games end. So let's go to the point. You go something like Thresh build. In runes you go guardian, it will be useful because you always on your ADC, then Font of life, because your Q slows enemies, Bone Plating for poke with autos and Revitalise. Second runes can be actually anything but I prefer Manaflow and Transcendence or Gathering storm for more healing in late, but cookies and tonic would be great to. About items. I think about Evenshroud, it can be useful with your ult, but actually you still can go Shurelias, nice choice for Yuumi in any situation. But thing comes in legendaries. The one item that I'm curious about is Knight's vow, with that thing you can actually save your adc from additional dmg! Then you can go Zeke and Anathema, for more tankiness and better CC against at least one enemy carry. You can pick any Item that ADC would dream about with aoe effects and become backpack for items! You can buy Randuins, Frozen heart, abyssal mask and it's all passives will work like its items of a champion that you're sitting on. I mean it's sounds crazy for me, but I guess her gameplay isn't so flashe and coooool like gameplay on your Sorakas and Jannas...
Okay, I once upon a time (like, (last september) started maining kayle in the midlane (I hate playing top). I usually went AP but when we already had enough AP in our team I built AD. I personally think that any AD mythic is fine. Kraken if they have lots of tanks, cringebow if they have assassins or burst, and Galeforce if I want the mobility. I tested for quite a few hours a few different build paths and I personally think essence reaver isn't great as a second item. Lemme explain: as kayle, you're a ticking time(nuclear)bomb, so you don't NEED to win 1v1s or be agressive on your opposite laner. What you need, is to farm safely, to get to your powerspike, and mobility to escape ganks or possibly roam. Which is why I think phantom dancer is the best second item to get after mythic if you don't absolutely need something situational (like antiheal or dominik or even malmortius or bork) And then play kayle like an adc (infinity edge or guinsoo, etc) The pros of kayle ad: -much more single target dps and than kayle ap -better kiting potential -faster scaling The cons: -w healing is trash tier -less ability damage (less Q and E damage) -way squishier if you don't build lifesteal (much less HP that ap items usually give) -the passive waves do less damage overall, meaning worse aoe if no runaans Honestly, i usually go ap because it's better all around, but slower to get. However, kayle ad is more "glasscannon" and a hell of a lot more fun to play I prefer going kraken for even more damage and attack speed, but that's just my preference (i don't like cringebow and galeforce because I get discouraged when my sudden lifesteal and shield or dash still get me killed because half of champions can one shot you and have 4 different dashes. So my philosophy is "can't get killed if they die first")
My man, my sweet handsome but most importantly _righteous_ man If to SPEED UP a champion's scaling you have to build them LIKE AN ADC you've got a problem in your hands, not a solution! ADC scaling is like molasses.
Not sure if this has been tested in this series. Hail of Blades Darius with ignite? You pull your laner in, quickly get 5stacks every chance you get for free poke.
Man, I thought you were going to talk about how back in the day, ADC's won games late game and how the comps were all around getting that ADC to come online or shutting down the game before the ADC came online.
Hi! Actual bronze player with a theory; Darius and Zilean bot lane. You use Zilean for stuns and to speed Darius into range and then Darius does Darius things
I love that the name of the vídeo it's Kayleforce, all of the clips in the intro does not have a single kayle dash and/or the items, and in the first game skooch goes for eclipse lol Still watching for the 3rd time tho, love ya
Please do more Pick a champion that has some type of fault or detriment and try to throw items in and theory craft a build to stave off those detriment and faults
I remember something I tried once around my first few games of league, could you do Support Azir? I’m sure it’s as bad as sounds, but I’m kinda curious about how it’ll look today
Now here is a REAL bronze theory craft, Build a Divine Sunderer, because Sheen proc, as well as the mixed % Armor/Magic Pen on it. as well as the HP allowing you to be less squish bish.
AD Akali. Akali scales off of ad, and you ad Akali just makes you rely on ur Q/passive auto dmg/and r1 for the damage. I personally love it and think you would love it too skooch. build: Eclipse, maw of malmortius, Ravenous Hydra, sorc boots, axiom arc, and yhomu's ghostblade or Serpent's Fang for the last item. (you can switch the last 2 items with 2 ap items for that juicy R2 dmg).
Taric and Olaf Bot lane: Or as I call it: *Heart of Diamond, Balls of Steel! * Here's the general run down. Taric can build support but Olaf builds LETHAL TEMPO and full attack speed with minimum lifesteal. This is because we want him as low health as possible so that his passive gives him the most attack speed possible. Now why Taric as his support? Well that's because Taric gives our Bro(laf) a lot of Armor just by being bound to him, helping him take less damage when the going gets tough, meanwhile his 2 stack Q, which you often are spamming mid fight when you can get your hits off, gives just enough health to help him make it through a fight while not taking away from his passive too much, and Taric's ult (and passive a little bit) takes away the one weakness of Olafs ult by preventing you from bursting him down before he gets into your face, meanwhile being unstoppable so you can't kite him and wait out the Taric Ult. But Olaf aint no freeby kind of guy, he'll also use his Q to help Taric land his stuns better, and having built in Lifesteal on his W makes it easier on Taric to keeping him alive. This all together makes two men who will pick one person to shit on in lane, and then in the mid game bring the pain. With a combo so insane that the enemy will scream inane and spew rage from their monkey brain. (Yo!) Hopefully it's as good in practice as it is in theory, A BRONZE THEORY!
want bronze theory? on-hit, on-attack warwick, kraken slayer, rageblade, essence reaver, botrk WW ult procs on hit / attack effects 3 times and does not crit, so thats guaranteed kraken slayer proc, 3x rageblade proc (every 3rd proc deals twice the dmg, so actually 4 rageblade procs, but you build the knife only first, if youre top you need mana from essence reaver asap) + spellblade proc. If yoz get to botrk thats extra magic dmg and slow works both on Q and R, but it empoweres R way more (also R heals for 100% dmg dealt)
I tried this once, Kayle needs Kraken's passive way more than survivability or for executing purposes IF she goes AD. If she's 16 she already can delete champs from distance anyway, so what's the point?
Ok so hear me out. The reason why you build kayle ap Is the exact reason you mentioned In this video. The heal and the ms on her w scale Off ap. Also passive as and ms scale Off of her ap. So you have insane damage No matter what you build *BUT* if you build ap you get mobilty, sustain and ap defensive items are just way better than ad. So building her a complete glass cannon Is such an over kill on damage that it makes No sence. Kayleforce Is salvagable tho. You just need To go hybridish. Galeforce, zhonya, DD, rageblade, wits end and both hydras are valid item choises
I do the opposite and lean into the late game scaling by picking Grasp which you can proc early with E and Gathering Storm. For items I think Kracken into Titanic and Demonic Embrace. You can build pretty much anything after that but the reason these items are core is because you need the attack speed from Kracken and the other two items scale off of HP which you're going to have a lot of with Grasp. Honestly if I wasnt so shit with Kayle I could probably abuse this harder than I already do. It's very good into tanks because you just free farm Grasp procs on them all lane phase and giga scale.
The Build is fun, but for the love of all that is unholy, please move and Kite with Kayle and dont Facecheck bushes against Riven. Thats like, the second rule of Toplane right after "Dont chase Singed". Im not even a Kayle main and i was screaming at the monitor. Great Video
Build ap run her in bot lane as support with hail of blades for early trades and to build up stacks of zeal to get to exalted faster. Using the support items that give health and snagging cs with bulwark of the mountain is very useful, building into nashors and demonic embrace after your support item means that later on you'll start melting even though you're still in the back trying to assist with kills. I take treasure hunter and legend alacrity+presence of mind for the sustain it gives. Having something like Shurelyas makes chasing and running with your adc very useful, but I also have had some good success with everfrost to get the extra cc u need to support. The important part of the build is that your fire waves proc Demonic Embrace and it gives u a return on building health so you can sustain in the fights. You aren't as useful as an adc, true, but you will start melting people quick enough that your bruisers will take less damage in trades, and building AP with Shurelyas means that u can boost your W instead of your q after e, giving u more sustain and helping your teammates. I've been figuring out what a potential ad/hybrid build with this could be too.
funny early game kayle build from a kayle otp, gale force, wits end (usually wits end first item since I play kayle mid into a lot of ap champs), serylda grudge, bork, as boots. u can run ghost ignite lethal tempo and nimbus cloak if u want to funny scare the shit out of people early game. so there u go. edit after watching the build lol on hit is better than crit for raw Dps (going crit build by 3 item 16 u either have no attack speed and decent damage or attack speed and no damage, on hit items all give a shit load of as), seryldas makes this build a lot stronger too since when u build ad or on hit your damage graphs look like 2/3rd ad 1/3 ap. also when u become exhaulted it counts as spell damage to make you basically just ashe with aa slows. usually u get first item boots at 11 and then 3 items at 16. personally I've never felt a good power spike with 3 straight crit items (even building crit kayle build that feels best is kraken, bork, phantom, then sell bork late game) at 16, the utility u get from wits end and seryldas passive for kiting plus ghost nimbus is a lot better than the damage u would have from crit. plus she scales really well with like all the on hit item passives like bork slow, guinsoos for her own on hit, wits end ms.
Ad kayel is better in the early stages, but after lvl 11 and 2 items Ap kayle is just way better. If you cant play kayle early, play AD, if you can play early then there is no point in palying AD. Edit: if you want play ad kayle play the chinese build (kraken into wits into syreldas)
Three days ago I metchup agains a Kayle that rushed Galeforge, now it make sense.... Also she died a gabilion times so I never saw her becouse I wasn't top side. Sad
i beat most top laners as early game kayle and ive had trouble with other early game kayles, her early is NOWHERE near as bad as people say it is. And of course from my experience her lategame also isnt nearly as busted as people say it is, its good but its not op. people exaggerate everything ://
i do like this style, it reminds me of mat pat game theory videos, while those are horrendously superficial i believe with the added base of complexity that is required when looking more specifically at something would definitly make this series very optmized and enterteining, i sujest that you continue this series but try to add perhaps more expressions to the character you are depicted as, like those on magikarpusedfly videos with nicky boi as a editor, it makes the experience less nausing believe me, any way good work ma boi
as a fellow kayle enthusiast and off meta enjoyer some notes i think bork nashars would feel better for your build pta vs goons like cho protobelt may also help your idea, protobelt bork nashars sorc booties cosmic drive could help out with the mobility issue, bork still gives you ad and magic damage
when galeforce first came out, before the many galeforce nerfs, kayleforce was so amazing, dunno if saying kai invented kayleforce is very true though, unless he has been sitting on it since galeforce got released lmao.
What the actual fuck are these builds 💀 just build kraken slayer man it’s better in every way, we kayle gamers have been building it for so long for a reason
Thanks for gaming with me gamer! I hope that I see some people running this down in ranked in the next few days :)
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I don't play ranked much, but I'm definitely gonna run it in norms
Skooch, can you do cwtat YORICK, ivern, or Warwick?
Or you know, being the series back?
@@thelordofthelostbraincells Why'd you comment here instead of making your own main comment lol
Kai probably saw this notif first
@@LunarEdge7 oh shit, I put it in the wrong comment!!! 😅🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
watching skooch play kayle is like getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly hoping it would feel good after a while
Watching it is as painful as getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly. Man auto'd minions 3 times then blamed minion block...
@@bilkari8753 I’m glad it wasn’t just me. I’m sitting here like please just kite! It only make like a 3% difference but pleassse haha
@@supercereal1 it hurts even more as a kayle main
@@alexanderheidnerbirkbak8423 frrr DD:
My favorite is him standing next to the Cho letting Cho hit him while he walks back and forth lmao A+ “kiting”
Nasus is a ticking time bomb, Kayle is a ticking doomsday device
Honestly, Nasus is more a pot of boiling pasta. As long as you’re keeping an eye on it, it’s pretty easy to manage, but if you forget about it for even a few minutes, it’ll boil over and all hell breaks loose.
Nasus is actually not that great of a late game scaler despite his infinite stacking because it’s a lot harder to farm late game to keep the stacks rolling in and full build ADCs with lots of CC from their team can just delete you regardless of your stacks.
Nasus doesnt scale that well into late game, he just gets kaited into oblivion
Lethal tempo Kayle lvl 1 is not to be underestimated. I have killed alot of people with it.
Lethal tempo literally any champion in the game lvl 1 is not to be underestimated. Broken ass rune lol
Pta feels stronger for laning imo. After 6 you go aa - aa - e for a really fast pta proc for poke. Do that 3 times and you can run them down with 1 item or just continue to harass after any of the pta procs if they whiffed an important skill or don't respect your damage. I feel like lethal just baits me to all in with the stacks too early and it makes poking harder without the pta damage proc
@@victorleon67 except it's exceptionally good on Kayle given her passive and auto reset as well as that auto reset doing more damage when ur lower. So no, she is in a league of her own here
@@thenamelessgod2308 lt is better since it's better late and good for lvl 1 cheese. Pta isn't as good as lt in late game. U just gotta be more mindful of when you can try to all in with matchups
@@sweetweebygoodness8693 I haven't had a single late game fight where I felt like lethal would've been better than pta. I barely get to stack it because squishy Champs die in 3-4 aa's and it barely makes a difference vs bruisers or tanks. Taking pta for a way better laning phase feels much better to me. So you can't really say one is better than the other. It's playstyle dependent and both have their ups and downs
"And it gives her a get out of jail free card"
"A jet out of gale free card"
"A get out of kayle free card"
I'd prefer a get in kayle free card
@@zackbauer4562 👀
Almost everyone has a get out of kayle free card because almost everyone has a dash
@@zackbauer4562 DROWN IN HOLY FIRE
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A combo me and a friend discovered recently by accident is Sion and Jhin bot lane. Sion can use his E to propel Jhin's fully-charged grenade into the enemy botlane. Then you can engage with Jhin W and Sion Q. Surprisingly viable imo
This looks so bronze that might work, might try it later
Me and my friend go Sion and Kalista bot, nothing like teeling the enemy champion not to move. sion ults into then then slows them then i alt them. or in reverse order. its great fun
One time I saw a renekton lose a kayle in the top lane after I gave him an early lead. He wasn't ganked by the enemy either, just lost the 1v1 pre 6
Hahaha, what a story, Mark
honestly phase rush QW max is pretty annoying for bruisers
"Woah, that's interesting, but I sure don't care!"
People do downplay her, she has a good all in
I strongly believe if you lose pre 6 to a Kayle you should be instantly demoted to iron just out of principle
I was watching this, especially the early levels vs riven, and this thought hit me: can't we normalize lane swaps when the matchup is unfavorable for us ?
Edit: scrap that, if you're fighting riven or yone, it really makes no difference 😅
I once played a game where i was Kayle top. We were 26 to 5, the enemy team flaming us and telling us to surrender. But then I reached level 16, and the rest is history, we won that game 60 to 40 against champs like Riven, Kayn and Sett. That feeling right there bois, everyone should feel it atleast once.
Wait wait wait, your team was 26 and enemy was 5 and they were flaming you to ff?
Or was your team 5 and the enemy 26 and they were flaming you to ff?
Because this situation feels like it should be like that...because who the heck asks an enemy team to ff especially if they're behind?!?
@@warlis4767 nah we were 5. A good Kayn makes your life miserable.
@@muizzkazi5432 I knew it 😂
You probably flip this to "we were 5 to 26" 😂
Or maybe I'm dumb, idk 😂
But yeah, such a comeback like that, I've never imagined it before especially if you're 20 kills behind. That's a ton of golf behind that not even getting a bank loan could have saved you from it.
Recently had a game where we were 4v5 from minute 7, 3v5 for another 5 minutes in mid game and then 4v5 again after the first guy came back.12k gold gap and we came back and won. Felt SO good.
"remember when bobby booshay, shOWED UP AT HALF TIME. AND THE BIRD DOGS WON THE SUPER BOWL DO YA!"
They should bring back hybrid items. An AD item that gives AP as the mythic passive and visa versa
The durability update would be useless if they did that but that is interesting
it'd be interesting if they brought gunblade back as a mythic
I mean, Divine sunderer is kindof hybrid as it gives both armour and MR pen - it's why I used to build it on Kayle in previous patches. It's also bloody good because Q>AA>W>AA>E>AA if timed with sheen/divine procs can be a pretty insane trade early since the max health damage helps guarantee the missing health damage - plus it gives a good amount of healing to offset the damage you take in the trade. That was in previous patches though; not sure if that build would still work.
@@spidericktehdarkandstuff7417 My Katarina and Akali wish they could have gunblade back.
That samira having her mastery emote bound to her deflect is the most samira player thing I have witnessed so far
I love that all the clips at 4.50 where he's talking about essence reaver he doesn't have essence reaver in a single one
I died when he called tahm kench thomas and now he will forever be Tahmas the Tank Kenchine in my head
"Babe, wakeup. New Bronze Theory Crafting at 11:30pm."
130 for me
I was just wondering where this series went. Glad to see it back.
8:18 That Riven crit hit harder than the door that fell on my head when I was 5
Ey Skooch, I have another bronze theory for you. I call it the "Ultimate Spear" Pantheon.
The build you go is: Eclipse, Bork, Black Cleaver, Dominiks, Axiom/Yomuus and any boots that you need.
The idea behind it is this: Eclipse gives 5% Armor pen per legendary Item up to a max of 20% with boots in it. Dominiks gives you 30% ontop of increasing your physical damage by up to 15% if the enemy has more max health than you, and Pantheon gains 10% Armor penetration per R rank up to 30%. Meaning that at full build and at lvl 16, he has a total of 80% Armor penetration. Now add Black Cleaver's armor shred ontop of it, which caps at 30%, and you reduce the enemy's armor by 30%, and ignore 80% of the remaining value. And what little remains in the equation is bypassed by Eclipse and your last item's Lethality. And lastly, you use Press the Attack on him and open the fight with an empowered W with its 3 hit AA, since his W, while scaling with mana, deals physical damage, so your opener already procs 4 hits, or 20%/30% BC armor shred.
This means that, regardless of squishy or tank, you will ignore almost all of their armor, if not actually all of their armor, and you will deal current health damage, max health damage and have 2 different sources of percentage damage boosts via PTA and Dominiks. You functionally deal true damage against every single champion regardless of what they build. There is no stat-based defense against this.
An offense that breaks all defences, the Ultimate spear.
Oh god the way this was described brought up memories of all the times people took a second to look at my (effective) katarina build. God the amount of people who look at it and are like “What is that build? You shouldn’t build like that. That’s so dumb.”
I’ll believe in myself seeing as how this build got me from m4 to m7. And no, giving a champion 1 defense and hp item that also gives light cc and has passive damage and gives scaling hp and increased range is not a bad move especially when your opponents hit like a truck. I’m talking about frostfire gauntlet. Best mythic in my opinion especially for a champ like kat. The only things in my build that don’t get heat are mejai’s and bloodthirster.
Kayle counts as a melee champion early game, so while she is pre level 6 she can fully use items (and runes) that are nerfed for ranged. This can be used for Grasp of the undying, as she gets bonus HP and heals herself with her E every couple of seconds. If you can use it while split pushing, demolish can be used to get gold from turrets faster. Font of Life can be used to heal allies that attack targets hit by her Q. If you want more early sustain, go second wind (poke) or bone plating against all-in champions, for more mid game sustain pick conditioning. revitalize is not only buffs your grasp heal and second wind, but also your W, which will keep you more healthy in the early stages. The second mastery tree can be anything but for sustain i recommend Domination with Taste of Blood (even more heal) and Ultimate hunter.
If you can buy it, i recommend sheen for this build as you want to hit the enemy with every E possible and sheen will deal more damage, hopefully getting them low enough to not engage you head on anymore.
I discovered a Bronze theory recently which is cassiopeia/teemo botlane. Teemo can invalidate the adc and the Autoattacks of teemo inflict poison which Work With cassio's E which makes them nigh unpunishable If played well
Definitely have to try this, I do kraken slayer and Kayle force sounds super fun when it works. Bronze theories are really fun to try
Yo Skooch i really love your videos and now after a while of playing this with my friends i thought it could become something fun to teory craft for a bronze teory.
Basically you lock in fiddlesticks as your jungler and he goes with glacial augment boots futur's market and pots for secondary runes you go domination and go with either cheap shot or sudden impact and ultimate hunter.
And he builds full burn with liandri and demonic embrace.
Then your top laner picks amumu with tanky stun based runes, and your support picks veigar with either predator or dark harvest and then its up to your preferences for the rest.
Up to now everithing seems normal, until at the last second all of you pick smite and build the dagger, you leave top open for the early and build a bounty on him, veigar keeps laining for a while until you think your adc is strong enough to play safe and still cs then you all go into the jungle picking up camps and objectives as you spam gank everyone.
The reason you pick these specific champs is the fact that fiddle and amumu ult combo really well and fiddle's fear makes people walk into veigar's cage.
Trust me you are gonna have a blast.
For clarification on anything you can ask me either here or i'll give you my instagram after you mesaged.
Keep up the great content, you are always there when im feeling down and never fail to keep a smile on my face.
So in other words, no matter what build you give Kayle, she will always be a "Please carry me till late game when I will be kind of viable" champion.
Skooch : *runs melee to a cho Gath*
Also skooch : he fucking one shotted me xD
I only play her in wildrift and always thought that she is meant to be built with ad items. Didn't knew that would get me flamed at pc
nah usually you do build her with ad items like kraken slayer
ofc u can build her ap but ur sacrificing more burst dmg in place of sustainablilty
The build in the vid is an experimental build
@@brightf4me5434 higher elo you almost never see ad items besides wits end or bork, most of the time people build riftmaker as their mythic
i'd say it depends on the team comp, both builds are pretty much the same but with different damage, so just "if team is mostly one damage type, build other one"
@@Stealth7800 TheShy built ad kayle multiple times in the LPL
11:00 "there is no way in hell" yes there is a way to hell. Never chase a Cho'Gath
Also because AP has a way better scaling nature I honestly think AD Kayle is only valuable when you play against a Armor stacking team but then you go kraken and IE. The items named in the Video just dont fit with the Champ in generel
Yooo I love the remix of Peach Beach included in the video!! It sounds dope :)
babe wake up, skooch posted another banger
This man legit got Kai to shill for the channel. Truly a master convincer.
I did not see that coming.
Never liked AD Kale. Just doesn't feel as good imo
Riot please bring back Gunblade, it was the item that carried hybrids (if needed make it a mythic with like +20% attack speed, just bring it back)
mythic are supposed to be good for 1 main thing(yes even bullshit like giredrinker and eclispe have 1 main function)so having a hybrid mythic omnivamp that also grant attack speed seem very all over the place
@@Megaman-2407 If they just added it back in it would be really nice, thats just for the case that they have to make it a mythic
Entire premise of the video: GALEFORCE ON KAYLE!
Mythic item in the first game after explanations are done: Eclipse 💀
The thing is, my group doesn't need to pick a sack of potatoes, one person is that sack of potatoes and we love him for it
Drum rolled straight into an ad
This build gets my Diamond 2 kayle otp seal of approval
"Kayle's early game feels like locking in a baby against Kratos" had to be the FUNNIEST shit I've ever heard. Thank you skooch. I needed that laugh today XD
I'm literally still crying laughing and its been about 5 minutes since I watched the vid XD. I might have a problem lmao
So you remember the cage right? The veigar+ap nasus combo. What if you turned that up to 11? Veigar's cage + ap nasus fire + morgana fire + ap mf make it rain + uhh... rammus ult, nunu ult? I can't think of someone that has something like the aforementioned aoe that is either jungle or top to take the final slot. You get the idea though, just get 3 other aoe skills in the cage
I have no clue why Kayle is almost always a top-lane champion, when she makes so much more sense as an ADC. Late game carries in bot lane make more sense, because you literally have a role dedicated to keeping you alive long enough for you to farm up and get items, and become a Problem™.
As an ADC, her main weakness is pre-6 attack range, but she has a lot more weaknesses top, and in bot you can have an aggressive support like Pyke, who can also help you get items faster while keeping them on the defensive, a Leona who can hold them still while you beat their ass, attack range be damned, or a Blitz who can zone them out from you just with the *threat* of a hook.
5:30 i swear to god at this point skooch basically has a RUclips mafia. like man i known over 20 other RUclips content creators that know and played with skooch.
I wake up to a new bronze theory crafting video. It's gonna be a good day.
There's a moment every game where I know late game isn't coming, and it's when people lock in
Have an idea for something like that.
I'm Yuumi main, but still I'm curious about this Idea, I couldn't really try it because of how fast usually games end.
So let's go to the point. You go something like Thresh build.
In runes you go guardian, it will be useful because you always on your ADC, then Font of life, because your Q slows enemies, Bone Plating for poke with autos and Revitalise. Second runes can be actually anything but I prefer Manaflow and Transcendence or Gathering storm for more healing in late, but cookies and tonic would be great to.
About items.
I think about Evenshroud, it can be useful with your ult, but actually you still can go Shurelias, nice choice for Yuumi in any situation. But thing comes in legendaries. The one item that I'm curious about is Knight's vow, with that thing you can actually save your adc from additional dmg! Then you can go Zeke and Anathema, for more tankiness and better CC against at least one enemy carry. You can pick any Item that ADC would dream about with aoe effects and become backpack for items! You can buy Randuins, Frozen heart, abyssal mask and it's all passives will work like its items of a champion that you're sitting on.
I mean it's sounds crazy for me, but I guess her gameplay isn't so flashe and coooool like gameplay on your Sorakas and Jannas...
Okay, I once upon a time (like, (last september) started maining kayle in the midlane (I hate playing top). I usually went AP but when we already had enough AP in our team I built AD. I personally think that any AD mythic is fine. Kraken if they have lots of tanks, cringebow if they have assassins or burst, and Galeforce if I want the mobility. I tested for quite a few hours a few different build paths and I personally think essence reaver isn't great as a second item. Lemme explain: as kayle, you're a ticking time(nuclear)bomb, so you don't NEED to win 1v1s or be agressive on your opposite laner. What you need, is to farm safely, to get to your powerspike, and mobility to escape ganks or possibly roam. Which is why I think phantom dancer is the best second item to get after mythic if you don't absolutely need something situational (like antiheal or dominik or even malmortius or bork)
And then play kayle like an adc (infinity edge or guinsoo, etc)
The pros of kayle ad:
-much more single target dps and than kayle ap
-better kiting potential
-faster scaling
The cons:
-w healing is trash tier
-less ability damage (less Q and E damage)
-way squishier if you don't build lifesteal (much less HP that ap items usually give)
-the passive waves do less damage overall, meaning worse aoe if no runaans
Honestly, i usually go ap because it's better all around, but slower to get. However, kayle ad is more "glasscannon" and a hell of a lot more fun to play
I prefer going kraken for even more damage and attack speed, but that's just my preference (i don't like cringebow and galeforce because I get discouraged when my sudden lifesteal and shield or dash still get me killed because half of champions can one shot you and have 4 different dashes. So my philosophy is "can't get killed if they die first")
a Ross Enjoyer I see
I LITERALLY HAD THE IDEA AFTER I WATCHED YOUR NORMAL KAYLE VIDEO LOL
10:42 yeah shes actually pretty fast if you
You know go ap
My man, my sweet handsome but most importantly _righteous_ man
If to SPEED UP a champion's scaling you have to build them LIKE AN ADC
you've got a problem in your hands, not a solution!
ADC scaling is like molasses.
Skooch: Lets try kayld with galeforce. First game: Scooch built Eclipse lul
If u wanna play with something like that again try Kraken Slayer, less mobility but more dmg
6:37 let's give this malphite some props, dude was super patient with his r
there is a way better kayel build and it involves kraken slayer bork still in there and a shit tone of crit that a hint figure the rest out yourself
Skooch thanks for posting this at nearly 3 am for me while I'm waiting for a game to release 😎
I hate this video, I hate this build... I'm queuing up and running this...
Riven is such a BS champion and you’ll never be able to convince me otherwise
you'll probably never read this but please try divine-sundurer bork R-Hydra collector, its turly op and ive build this way since mythics came out
Blessed by Skooch 2 am upload
Not sure if this has been tested in this series. Hail of Blades Darius with ignite? You pull your laner in, quickly get 5stacks every chance you get for free poke.
Omnikayle is another good idea for a video, Only build Vamp items (Riftmaker, Ravenous Hydra, Bloodthirster, Spirit Visage etc)
For someone with wings she is actually really immobile
Man, I thought you were going to talk about how back in the day, ADC's won games late game and how the comps were all around getting that ADC to come online or shutting down the game before the ADC came online.
Hi! Actual bronze player with a theory; Darius and Zilean bot lane. You use Zilean for stuns and to speed Darius into range and then Darius does Darius things
Skooch
Pantheon's spear can crit
galeforce + stormrazor + IE
hey skooch that's a nice glaeforce you have in the first game.
I love that the name of the vídeo it's Kayleforce, all of the clips in the intro does not have a single kayle dash and/or the items, and in the first game skooch goes for eclipse lol
Still watching for the 3rd time tho, love ya
kayleforce ftw
Please do more
Pick a champion that has some type of fault or detriment and try to throw items in and theory craft a build to stave off those detriment and faults
The tilting part is I play this unironically and everyone forever will think I'm copying the skooch vid
The real bronze theory is playing Kayle mid because that is just a troll pick
idk if it is a bronze theory but i like going full attack speed sett
Back in the day when I was first playing, Bronze was like a death sentence. Now it's just where you go to have fun playing the video game again.
Imagine naming the strat kayleforce and building galeforce twice like wtf is that eclipse skooch
06:47 Bruh, you said you were doing Gayleforce, WHAT IS THAT THAT I SEE IN YOUR INVENTORY THEN???
I remember something I tried once around my first few games of league, could you do Support Azir? I’m sure it’s as bad as sounds, but I’m kinda curious about how it’ll look today
hey skooch could you do viktor veigar bot for that sweet baby cage oneshotting? i think that would be cool
Now here is a REAL bronze theory craft, Build a Divine Sunderer, because Sheen proc, as well as the mixed % Armor/Magic Pen on it. as well as the HP allowing you to be less squish bish.
AD Akali. Akali scales off of ad, and you ad Akali just makes you rely on ur Q/passive auto dmg/and r1 for the damage. I personally love it and think you would love it too skooch.
build:
Eclipse, maw of malmortius, Ravenous Hydra, sorc boots, axiom arc, and yhomu's ghostblade or Serpent's Fang for the last item. (you can switch the last 2 items with 2 ap items for that juicy R2 dmg).
bro how is kayle immobile
Taric and Olaf Bot lane: Or as I call it: *Heart of Diamond, Balls of Steel! *
Here's the general run down. Taric can build support but Olaf builds LETHAL TEMPO and full attack speed with minimum lifesteal. This is because we want him as low health as possible so that his passive gives him the most attack speed possible. Now why Taric as his support? Well that's because Taric gives our Bro(laf) a lot of Armor just by being bound to him, helping him take less damage when the going gets tough, meanwhile his 2 stack Q, which you often are spamming mid fight when you can get your hits off, gives just enough health to help him make it through a fight while not taking away from his passive too much, and Taric's ult (and passive a little bit) takes away the one weakness of Olafs ult by preventing you from bursting him down before he gets into your face, meanwhile being unstoppable so you can't kite him and wait out the Taric Ult.
But Olaf aint no freeby kind of guy, he'll also use his Q to help Taric land his stuns better, and having built in Lifesteal on his W makes it easier on Taric to keeping him alive. This all together makes two men who will pick one person to shit on in lane, and then in the mid game bring the pain. With a combo so insane that the enemy will scream inane and spew rage from their monkey brain. (Yo!)
Hopefully it's as good in practice as it is in theory, A BRONZE THEORY!
want bronze theory?
on-hit, on-attack warwick, kraken slayer, rageblade, essence reaver, botrk
WW ult procs on hit / attack effects 3 times and does not crit, so thats guaranteed kraken slayer proc, 3x rageblade proc (every 3rd proc deals twice the dmg, so actually 4 rageblade procs, but you build the knife only first, if youre top you need mana from essence reaver asap) + spellblade proc. If yoz get to botrk thats extra magic dmg and slow
works both on Q and R, but it empoweres R way more (also R heals for 100% dmg dealt)
I tried this once, Kayle needs Kraken's passive way more than survivability or for executing purposes IF she goes AD. If she's 16 she already can delete champs from distance anyway, so what's the point?
Ok so hear me out. The reason why you build kayle ap Is the exact reason you mentioned In this video. The heal and the ms on her w scale Off ap. Also passive as and ms scale Off of her ap. So you have insane damage No matter what you build *BUT* if you build ap you get mobilty, sustain and ap defensive items are just way better than ad. So building her a complete glass cannon Is such an over kill on damage that it makes No sence. Kayleforce Is salvagable tho. You just need To go hybridish. Galeforce, zhonya, DD, rageblade, wits end and both hydras are valid item choises
I do the opposite and lean into the late game scaling by picking Grasp which you can proc early with E and Gathering Storm. For items I think Kracken into Titanic and Demonic Embrace. You can build pretty much anything after that but the reason these items are core is because you need the attack speed from Kracken and the other two items scale off of HP which you're going to have a lot of with Grasp. Honestly if I wasnt so shit with Kayle I could probably abuse this harder than I already do. It's very good into tanks because you just free farm Grasp procs on them all lane phase and giga scale.
The Build is fun, but for the love of all that is unholy, please move and Kite with Kayle and dont Facecheck bushes against Riven. Thats like, the second rule of Toplane right after "Dont chase Singed". Im not even a Kayle main and i was screaming at the monitor.
Great Video
Build ap run her in bot lane as support with hail of blades for early trades and to build up stacks of zeal to get to exalted faster. Using the support items that give health and snagging cs with bulwark of the mountain is very useful, building into nashors and demonic embrace after your support item means that later on you'll start melting even though you're still in the back trying to assist with kills. I take treasure hunter and legend alacrity+presence of mind for the sustain it gives. Having something like Shurelyas makes chasing and running with your adc very useful, but I also have had some good success with everfrost to get the extra cc u need to support. The important part of the build is that your fire waves proc Demonic Embrace and it gives u a return on building health so you can sustain in the fights. You aren't as useful as an adc, true, but you will start melting people quick enough that your bruisers will take less damage in trades, and building AP with Shurelyas means that u can boost your W instead of your q after e, giving u more sustain and helping your teammates. I've been figuring out what a potential ad/hybrid build with this could be too.
funny early game kayle build from a kayle otp, gale force, wits end (usually wits end first item since I play kayle mid into a lot of ap champs), serylda grudge, bork, as boots. u can run ghost ignite lethal tempo and nimbus cloak if u want to funny scare the shit out of people early game. so there u go. edit after watching the build lol on hit is better than crit for raw Dps (going crit build by 3 item 16 u either have no attack speed and decent damage or attack speed and no damage, on hit items all give a shit load of as), seryldas makes this build a lot stronger too since when u build ad or on hit your damage graphs look like 2/3rd ad 1/3 ap. also when u become exhaulted it counts as spell damage to make you basically just ashe with aa slows. usually u get first item boots at 11 and then 3 items at 16. personally I've never felt a good power spike with 3 straight crit items (even building crit kayle build that feels best is kraken, bork, phantom, then sell bork late game) at 16, the utility u get from wits end and seryldas passive for kiting plus ghost nimbus is a lot better than the damage u would have from crit. plus she scales really well with like all the on hit item passives like bork slow, guinsoos for her own on hit, wits end ms.
Ad kayel is better in the early stages, but after lvl 11 and 2 items Ap kayle is just way better. If you cant play kayle early, play AD, if you can play early then there is no point in palying AD.
Edit: if you want play ad kayle play the chinese build (kraken into wits into syreldas)
I have 2 nice hybrid builds.
Rift maker phantom dancer storm razer IE raibidon.
Triforce tytanic gonsu steraks bloodthirster
i love you skooch
Three days ago I metchup agains a Kayle that rushed Galeforge, now it make sense....
Also she died a gabilion times so I never saw her becouse I wasn't top side.
Sad
new bronze theory omggg!!!11!1!
i beat most top laners as early game kayle and ive had trouble with other early game kayles, her early is NOWHERE near as bad as people say it is. And of course from my experience her lategame also isnt nearly as busted as people say it is, its good but its not op. people exaggerate everything ://
i do like this style, it reminds me of mat pat game theory videos, while those are horrendously superficial i believe with the added base of complexity that is required when looking more specifically at something would definitly make this series very optmized and enterteining, i sujest that you continue this series but try to add perhaps more expressions to the character you are depicted as, like those on magikarpusedfly videos with nicky boi as a editor, it makes the experience less nausing believe me, any way good work ma boi
do fiddle and ivern
Explains galeforce build... *proceeds to build something totally different*
i like it but i would enjoy you to make any champ build(besides Tryndamere,Yasuo,Yone) with navori quickblades unless u cant do that
Skooch, can you do cwtat YORICK, ivern, or Warwick?
Or you know, being the series back?
as a fellow kayle enthusiast and off meta enjoyer some notes
i think bork nashars would feel better for your build
pta vs goons like cho
protobelt may also help your idea, protobelt bork nashars sorc booties cosmic drive could help out with the mobility issue, bork still gives you ad and magic damage
Imagine making a whole video talking about how Kayle needs 20 mins to scale up and then fighting a riven with a level advantage at lvl 2 💀💀💀💀
when galeforce first came out, before the many galeforce nerfs, kayleforce was so amazing, dunno if saying kai invented kayleforce is very true though, unless he has been sitting on it since galeforce got released lmao.
What the actual fuck are these builds 💀 just build kraken slayer man it’s better in every way, we kayle gamers have been building it for so long for a reason
Totally unrelated topic but I always thought cartoon Skooch was smoking a gentleman pipe but it turns out it was a drink.