Phil Foden vs Bukayo Saka vs Cole Palmer
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Even as a Spurs fan the Saka disrespect here is utterly atrocious.
Foden is better than Saka
Arsenal fan here.
I can understand the foden shouts, but Cole Palmers comparison is sooooo bad omg.
I thought they are joking
Thanks for the honesty! I’m glad some fans actually realised the disrespect and bias that’s going around! Respect to you!
@@chingyminecraftgods9424he isn’t. Foden plays in a team where you get moments to beat Real etc. Buvey is picking and choosing criteria that contradicts why he would also pick Palmer. Saka plays for a team that have only just got back into the champions league.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 ur an arsenal fan mate Foden is more versatile
W logic from Rory in this one. He's the only one trying not to be biased lol
Does my head in that they do these debates without a rep from each club. Big up Rory for defending Saka.
Some of the points that Buvey made are so silly. Asking where was Saka in big games... Foden has 0 g/a and 0 wins in the 4 title race games. Quiet against RM 2nd leg, FA Cup semi. Villa (A), Wolves, Chelsea x2 in the PL.
Buvey is the easiest person to debate against but he always picks his battles when there isn't an opposition fan present.
@@harrydavies5055 100% facts
@Calum-xv4yi they usually do and it's what helped True Gordie become a big channel. Collaborating with other club's content creators. But they don't NEED to do it every episode. Suspending reality and saying that Saka hasn't scored against big clubs is a false statement by Buvey.
@Calum-xv4yi it is "The Club" and none of them would have the success they have if it wasn't for TG. As for Saka, he DID score against all top 6 teams and vs Bayern. The issue is Ars needed a RW to challenge Saka for his spot, instead now they are suffering from fatigue.
@Calum-xv4yi furthermore Calum, that's not to say I don't like the Club, I like all 3 of them but I wouldn't have known about them if I didn't see them on True Geordie.
You can't have a debate if you are not ready to have a fair talk. Look at how quick they try to bring down Saka with football Twitter waffle. Stop bringing the FT logic into these videos. Well done to Rory for shutting down Buvey. And Adam is just salty and dead inside, the only thing he has left is hate watching.
4:27 was literally our best player during the World Cup.
I'm not that far in but are you talking about kane?
@@hyywe240 no, saka, Buvey says he was poor at the World Cup 🤣
@@Cbfbxvzgdon't remember a single significant thing he did in the world cup
@@number1chesschampionsket683you didn’t watch it then
@@number1chesschampionsket683 against France he was the best players on the pitch and scored 3 in 4 but sure he didn’t do anything
This discussion is a disgrace.Just think the most sensible person being Rory in the discussion.
Because the other two are clowns.
@@thetruth4654 but did you know, Palmer is Black? That might change your opinion.
😅@@thetruth4654
@@thetruth4654Zero football knowledge smh
Is this a sketch? 😂😂😂
Don’t think there’s any drawing involved mate
The Saka hate from the Club expect Rory is crazy. Saka has 19 GA against top 6.
Also comparing him to Valencia should be a crime.
So G/a is good for saka but not palmer?
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC no one said that but Palmer has like 10 penalty goals. Villas Ollie has almost the same goals with 0 penalties.
@@BillyHades palmer has more npg than saka and more assists in a diabolical team compared to sakas title challengers
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC never said it isn‘t good but one good season doesn’t equal that.
@@madaxwayne where does he have more asissts?
The hate Saka gets these days is insane
@@davidcubillos1196Tell me you don't know ball without telling me you don't know ball
It’s ridiculous 😂 he’s 22 with 30+ goals and assist and people treat him like he’s a bang average footballer it’s insanity
these days? hes been playing professional for 3 years u nut job
The standard for Saka is astronomically high compared to Foden and Palmer. Foden often has very low dips in form but bcos there are so many brilliant players at City it goes unnoticed. So if he’s not picking up the slack then it’s ok bcos Bernardo Silva or mahrez or gundogan would’ve. This is Foden’s first real breakout season so compared to his other years of mid he looks insanely good. Same thing for palmer as well. It’s his first season starting for a team and his output looks crazy. Saka over the last 3 season has been consistently carrying Arsenal but bcos he’s not bagging a goal or assist every game then he looks average when in reality he’s still be better than 99% of wingers in the league this season. People will have the same talk next season if Foden or palmer only 25 G/A they’ll start calling them mid.
Obvisouly Saka is a great player, but Foden is better, and I'd argue the same for Palmer. His ceiling is astronomical high
‘Comparing saka to foden is like comparing Rooney to Ashley young’ Adam’s ball knowledge never ceases to amaze me
i‘m looking forward to shutting him up once more when arsenal are playing utd in gw 37
Another terrible take from Adam
lol this guy has 0 ball knowledge. He just hates copious hate for arsenal and England
He's the best of these 3 for sure. Bit the other 2 are dreadful so
Bad analogy, not bad ball knowledge
Adam is only a few years removed from saying Saka is nothing more than a squad player so why the hell would anyone take what he has to say seriously anyway.
He only connects his brain to his mouth when it comes time to talk about United.
These idiots are forgetting Saka put Arsenal on his back years ago
Come is doing that for fielders now tbf, arguably moreso
They don’t rate Saka bcos they don’t rate his skin colour, don’t be twanged by the racismo guys
Hi rants@@Maple_T29
On his back for a fa cup 😂
@@Maple_T29lol you're right, unless you rate black people highest in everything, even if it's undeserved, you're racist.
Everyone with half a brain would take Foden and Palmer over Saka..
Tribalism aside, when it comes to England people will pick Saka because they know deep down hes the best option to help win the games
and he isn't even English
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t hes born and raised in London. If he at all felt Nigerian he would have played for them....but he didnt.
@@user-bq2tc6dh6tI think what you meant is white because Declan Rice isn't English but no one give a shit
@@eljay6714don’t worry mate, the guy above probably doesn’t realise that his own heritage isn’t “English”. Nations and different ethnic groups have been coming to England for thousands of years. Romans, Saxons, Normans - non of them were English.
Like you said, if you’re London born & bread, you are without a doubt English 🏴
The disrespect Saka gets on this channel is genuinely disgusting!
Foden did not run the UCL final 😂🤦🏻♂️
Looool no ways someone said that
Who did?
He literally keept our midfield togheter with Rodri?
@Duval-In-The-Wall since you did, who ran it? You obviously remember the highlights and not the match.
@@637x4 no he didnt lmao, inter were the better team the whole game and foden was decent, certainly didnt run the game. Your guy who 'ran the game' didnt even start the game 😭😭
The hypocrisy of Adam and Buvey saying that the Saka and Foden debate is harmful to Saka is a disgrace. Literally a couple of weeks ago it was an actual debate between fans and had good reason to be Saka or Foden. Whoever you thought it was, was fine, but it was an actual debate. Now after a week of bad play, it’s disrespectful to even debate it? Yea okay😂
Tbf it is a crap debate only arsenal fans think its saka
@@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub no it isn’t, there was legit debates about it and no, it wasn’t just Arsenal fans. The recency bias is a joke. If it was only being discussed bc of Arsenal fans, then there must have been a lottttttt of Arsenal fans around
@@NoooTheWall32 It is just Arsenal fans.
@@Al-ji4gd I can remember Mark Goldbridge saying that he would pick Saka over Foden. So no, it’s not just Arsenal fans. Just cause you hate them, doesn’t mean they are always the problem
@@NoooTheWall32 Goldbridge doesn't know anything about football lol, so who caraes what he said?
It’s fashionable and fun for rival fans to hate on Saka at the moment. It’s the flavour of the month. It’s utter nonsense.
They’ll pick out 1 thing Saka does poorly and ignore the 9 other things he does wonderfully. Just admit you don’t like him or the team he plays for and acknowledge your lack of impartiality.
Hilarious that Buvey/Adam are waxing lyrical about Palmer for having a good season statistically but will scoff at Saka’s consistent numbers which he’s hit and improved on year after year.
Yeah but tbf he did miss a cross once.
@@miniman2132 that is so true I can’t believe I forgot about that
Arsenal fan here, travel all over to watch. He has not been the same player since the World Cup last year, I couldn’t care less about GA as a defense. Haaland still has 20 goals this year but has clearly been off the boil.
I don’t put it all on Bukayo though; it was clear at the end of last season he needed serious rest. We did not buy any cover and it’s carried over. He’s played insane minutes for his age, something that Pep didn’t allow with Foden.
Saka no longer beats his man, his burst is gone, and he’s been absolutely nullified in all the biggest games since the turn of last year. Before that i remember his home performances against United and Liverpool and Spurs where he was absolutely irresistible.
@@camcunningham9443 I agree, I don’t think he’s been the same player this season as last however I think part of that comes down to the system that Arsenal play now.
I think it’s appalling that they’ve not provided cover for him in fairness and you can clearly see the fatigue setting in.
It’s a strange one the argument regarding him beating his man. I’ve felt that this is the case too; he doesn’t seem to do it as often but when you look at the statistics (which I try not to do generally speaking), he actually attempts and completes more take ons than Foden who people sing the praises of for his ability to beat his man. It’s a strange one. Not to mention the fact that he’s often getting double and sometimes triple marked out of games.
The only thing I’d level against him this season is that he does have games where he frustrates me which he hasn’t before but I feel that much of that comes from expectations more than anything.
I think he’s a sensational player with so much ability and he’s getting dragged through the mud at the moment because it’s fashionable and gets clicks/interactions.
@@ShrimpSweaties I think he’s played pretty well overall v the lesser teams, I was strictly talking about his impact in the meaningful games. Sporting home and away, Porto home and away, Bayern away, city away in fa cup, twice away in league and once at home, Liverpool away twice, Villa home and away, Newcastle away. I still love the bloke to bits but it’s an increasing concern for me, because the first half of last season he was so explosive and teams couldn’t handle it.
I do take your point that the system has changed a bit and teams are starting to double up, but he does also have the luxury of Odegaard/White that Martinelli doesn’t (so many LB/left 8 pairings) who has also looked a shadow of himself this season. The worst part is he will go to the euros in the summer and just add further mileage to those legs.
I don’t think Foden or Palmer are comparable players to Saka, they both operate as CAM and influence the game in a different manner. It’s like comparing Odegaard to Sane, it makes no sense.
Put saka in the city team he gets more goals than foden.
So what? Foden is still a much better player.
How he would be bencu
Saka is way more consistent than any of those two he’s been delivering and carrying aresnal for the last 4 seasons
Absolute nonsense. Haven’t missed a game in two years, and he has been below par since the World Cup. That’s 14 months. It’s not all his fault because he never gets rested, even when it comes to in game substitutions in games already won. That said, he has been underwhelming in 80-85% of crucial games since then. I will list them if you want to argue
@@camcunningham9443 ‘below par’ since the World Cup and he has over 30 g/a in the league😂 no it’s just the standard for Saka is way higher than the other two bums. ‘underwhelming’ in the big games but he scored against Liverpool, scored against spurs and got the assist for the other. Yeh this is just racism at this point mate, not even trying to hide it are ya
@@Maple_T29 you obviously have something seriously wrong with you. Racism? How about this, Martinelli has had an even bigger drop off than Saka…
Talk to me about sporting away and sporting home. Porto away and Porto home. Munich away. City away in fa cup, city away twice in the league, city home in the league. Liverpool away twice. Newcastle away, villa home and away. I’ve been at all these games, where have you been? You g/a merchant, doesn’t watch football, just looks at stats. I don’t even need to get into the run in last season (west ham away, Brighton home, Forest away)
He’s played too much football in too short a space of time at too young an age, and he’s off to Germany for the euros in the summer aswell. It’s madness
carrying them to what? AN fa cup? Fodens responsible for the only game pep won at anfield against klopp, and has ran games at the highest level in the ucl, and won stuff. they might have similar g/a but foden does so much more around that. Plus the narative peps held him back for his own good. Arteta has rinsed saka.
@@jack28aug swap Foden and Saka around and the trophy hauls would swap as well. Foden was warming the bench for guys like mahrez and gundogan, don’t try and rewrite history bcos he’s having a good season now the actual game winners have left the club. This is Foden’s first real breakout season bcos in all the other seasons he hasn’t been a main stay in the team. What Foden is currently doing now is exactly what a player like Saka is being called average for. When Saka plays well, they compare him to salah. When Foden plays well they compare him to Saka. That should tell you everything you need to know
Saka has done it for 4 years, carrying a bad team as an 18 yr old. And has more g/a than Ronaldo at his age in less games (obv not saying hes anywhere near him). Whereas foden, has been eased in the best team in the world, and has had his mins managed flawlessly. Imagine foden playkng with sokratis and kolasinac, thats why what palmer is doing is so impressive as he is in an awful team.
Not to mention he has done it internationally, where has foden done at the last 2 England tournaments? Nothing.
Carrying a arsenal to where exactly? He is just as mediocre as arsenals institution in itself, good player sure, however foden has been and started regularly in some of the worlds greatest squads since he was younger than 18 😭 on top of that he is one of the most decorated players there is itl, he has countless of unreal performances for us.
@@637x4his trophies and success with city team don’t mean nothing he was just a squad player nothing more even bojan won 2 trebles with barca is he better than hazard or griezmann?? Saka has been the main player for a team who ‘s been the title contender for last 2 seasons and been England’s one of the best players in reaching euros finals or World Cup quarters foden can’t even start for England he
Saka has won more player of the years for England than palmer has caps for England😂😂😂 nah the disrespect is vile, how dare they. When Saka plays well they compare him to Salah. When Foden and palmer play well they compare him to Saka. That should tell you everything you need to know about this debate. Foden and palmer fan girls can come and chat to us when both players hit 30 g/a in 4 seasons consistently. Until then they’ll just have to hold bench like they do for England. Foden is only good bcos he’s surrounded by world class players, put him in the United team for example and he would be straight ass. Palmer is just a Bruno Fernandes regen. Anyone remember 4/5 years ago when Fernandes scored all those pens for United and they were having fernandes/de bruyne debates? This is the exact same thing. Take away pens from Palmer and Chelsea and there’s gonna be a lot of uncomfortable conversations but you fan girls aren’t ready for that yet
Foden is better
Foden is a better footballer than Saka, but for Adam to compare him to Antonio Valencia, just doing it for the clicks, Palmer is looking very good in a shit Chelsea team, remember last season when Rashford was the best footballer ever according to United fans, now they want him gone! Lets see if he can be consistent, also Saka & Foden have both got 18 goal contributions against the big 6 in there careers both having played 40 games & Saka started as a left back...
How is Foden better than Saka? Saka has been a starter for Arsenal for sometime now, also a guaranteed starter for Englans, 1 good season for the 2 lads cant change that, and Saka season is not even that off from them
The way people disrespect Saka i actually don't think England deserve him. Let Foden and Palmer play in front and put up no shows as it is what England deserve. Saka carried England during the Euros and has been their best winger for 2 years. As a arsenal fan i'd be happy for Saka to be on the bench or not even taken as he needs a rest. Not like england will win with Southgate at the helm anyways
disrispect
Saka didn't carry Harry kane Jack grealish declan rice kyle walker or sterling
@Calum-xv4yiwith all due respect, Palmer isn’t exactly taking part in many games that mean anything this season is he?
Chelsea are 8th, they’ve been as low as that all season. The guy is playing for himself, and getting lots of goals. Let’s see how he does if the Chelsea sh**show ever gets back to making a decent crack at achieving something.
@Calum-xv4yi I’m sorry mate, but a team in 10th just doesn’t have the same level of pressure then games when you are trying to win the league. Chelsea fans have just wanted the season to end for months now, and though Palmer has had a great season, that doesn’t mean it will maintain if this Chelsea team ever improves.
When Arteta started at Arsenal one of the players that contributed most to Arsenals success was Kieran Tierney .. a year later he was redundant to the team. Tierney was replaced by Zinchenko and Zinny became one of the keys to Arsenals success .. a year later he is redundant and Arsenal fans are in agreement that a new LB is needed.
What works for your team at one level of the game doesn’t always work at a level higher. Hopefully for Palmers sake he can stay relevant, but it’s not a given, and we won’t know if he’s at that level until he is there.
@Calum-xv4yi moving from a 5th place team to 2nd place team who made their first legitimate attempt at challenging for the Premier League in nearly 20 years, and maintained that level this year.
I just knew after the palmer hat trick this was coming imo it’s been Saka foden palmer
First time I ever see Rory actually humble himself and speak from a point of reason.
I’m genuinely surprised. I’ll give it a week before he starts saying Pogba is better than KDB. A week…
I don’t understand the Pogba shout, but for an Arsenal player Rory was surprisingly unbiased
He already tried starting it in a vid before but immediately got shut down by Ade
Saka has been consistent for many years now. Foden is only been unbelievable this season. Palmer has had a great season but he needs to do it again to be on the same level
That’s such a lie, it’s unbelievable… Foden has been exceptional for years. Our team had the likes of silva, kdb Bernardo, mahrez so on and when he’s started against the likes of psg and Dortmund he was a different class, he could dictate a game, he’s always had the stats, but stats don’t mean anything, saka is nowhere near foden or palmer on a technical level, sakas scores system goals
@Calum-xv4yi 22 g/a isn’t below par
@@Cynthia20043 He hasn't only twice got 14+ league goals/assists it isn't unbelievable or a generational talent
@Calum-xv4yi yet in the Premier League/Champions League has one more goal/assists
@@joshfaulkner7345 Fuck G/A, he's a bum. He showed how much of a bum he is against Porto, Bayern and Villa.
plz guys understand that buvey doesnt represent man city fanbase, cuz most of his ideas are wild
Btw if saka played for city he would be killing the league.
Yeah and what doesn’t make sense is that Rory brings up the point that Saka has been the best Arsenal player for the past 3 seasons. Then buvey asks what Arsenal have won as if Phil Foden was able to get a consistent run of games in the time they won any of those trophies
On the bench
Cole Palmer had as much involvement in that treble as I had in my own conception.
People need to stop using this as a way to boost him up
Foden, saka, palmer as of now, foden has the success and is a more flair player, saka isn’t as fancy but has output and has been going up and up for the past 4 years in a worse team, palmer has 1 phenomenal season so just can’t go higher YET. One point I’d like to make about foden and his success is that he hasn’t been a focal point for it, he’s been along for the ride other then having one good game against a week inter Milan.
Cole Palmer is literally 6 months younger than Saka and they are talking about his age. That alone shows how good saka is. They think he is older because of how good he has been for such a long time for a 21 year old
4:00 Yeah, because City have fucking KDB and had David Silva before him, who even is Arsenal's second RW? Of course Saka has played more because of that, it's dumb logic to use.
Yeah and that is why City have won so much. Its a hard argument to have when everyone’s points are deeply flawed
There’s the national squad though
I'm just happy we have so many great exciting players
Started the video / 4 seconds in… Buvey: “I tweeted this, cole Palmer overtakes Saka as RW in ENG team because I don’t want losers starting” / I close video. 😂
Saka with 3 goals in the world cup for England
When will the nonsence of ‘saka doesn’t score in big games’ end. He is our MOST consistent big moments player since auba left.
A thought experiment, if arsenal played leverkusen right now and you just see the score at halftime, 1-1, who would you think scored for arsenal?
Fodens Trophies are built on FFP violations and a team with a salary of around 500 millions.
Compared in numbers Saka and Foden are more than comparable. This blind football knowledge that lives in and around Manchester and its both clubs is amazing. Deluted as fuck
Was a subscriber from the beginning, now you've lost me. This isn't banter, it's just bad football knowledge, unsubscribed.
Saka is consistently the opening scorer for Arsenal & has been the focal point of this massive revival, he’s one of the only players in the last 6 years to reach 50 goals & 50 assists & his defensive work goes absolutely unnoticed. Foden & Palmer are better finishers & maybe have a bit more magic to their game but Saka is incredibly efficient.
Palmer is unreal , he almost always makes the right Descisions and he’s got a killer mentality . Doesn’t feel the pressure one bit
Palmer is not as good as saka and foden
Palmer scores a ton as he has a team of 10 men that can’t shoot on target around him and they have all realised he can shoot and he gets to play in a role where he sits on the last man and shoots or plays it out wide when he receives it
Saka is levels above palmer, as he plays in a system that relies on the whole team contributing and still is the stand out man, that is something you can’t define as ability or output, it just is how it is, when Salah first came to Liverpool they would of said the same thing about him only having output
And I do agree that Foden is the best of the three but it’s close between Foden and Saka
Buvey thinks saka doesn’t influence a game like the others cuz he sits out wide and plays to the strength of the system where palmer has a free role in a mid table side with no system other than to try score
‘He doesn’t do it in big games.’ Has the most goal contributions against the big 6 at the age of 21 and under. Foden is so good that there are around 6-7 players in his squad more important than him
Foden is top 3 in our squad stop the lies and on top of that he has played regularly in some of the worlds greatest squads since a teen lol y’all arguing with arguments like “saka has played in his position more” like he doesn’t play for a club that hasn’t won a single major trophy in what now? 1.5 decades? Unreal, ofc the lad is good but foden is clearly a few steps above 😂
Fools clearly don’t research. Only 1 season in CL and great G/A record. Not to mention his record against the “Big 6” is crazy good.
There are Arsenal nuts in the comments section who think RORY is the sane one. :)
The problem with this conversation is there is a City fan, Chelsea fan, and then a United fan without someone who can really speak to what Saka means to Arsenal
Adam talking about ‘he doesn’t get you off the edge of his seat’ like he doesn’t rate Giggs
Comparing Saka to Ryan Giggs is crazy I cant lie.
The only time Giggs gets you off your seat is when you hear he’s got another court case on his hands😂
@@Maple_T29 zero ball knowledge
@@eljay6714 not my fault Giggs beats his missus😂
Who was the best player apart from griezman in the ENGLAND -FRANCE game? It was saka truth b told
These converstions dont matter in the grand scheme of things. They are intended to farm engagement. But when you honestly look at it, being easy on the eye doesnt get players to the top. Its efficiency, the output. Its the ability to perform at the high level.
Saka has been at it since 18. And a starter since the age of 19. Foden has just become regular fixture this season. Cole Palmer is having his breakout season at 22-the same thing as Saka who has been doing this for at least 4 years consistently.
All players are good but the comparison is wild. They say Foden and Palmer are number 10s. Saka is not. I dont think if you put those two on the wing, they deliver what Saka does every week. My point is that y'all have some good players. Enjoy them instead of killing them for social media engagement.
Phil foden is better then everyone Phil foden is generational 💙💙
Adam’s spot on when he says city would never sell palmer to United
You guys say Saka does nothing for Arsenal but Arsenal are second but say Palmer carries chelsea and they been 10th
Because Saka has a much better team behind him. Cole Palmer has to play with Nicholas Jackson and Madueke
Really bored of Buvey using 'but what has he won?' for every single argument. Do you have the mental capacity to apply any critical thinking to an argument, without just throwing out a blank and irrelevant statement in hopes of proving your point? I used to enjoy Buvey's wind up takes, but holy shit it gets old fast when he literally has nothing relevant to say at all.
Harry Kane is the best striker in the world. He has been for quite a few years now. "But what has he won".. It's such a dumb argument. He is still the best striker in the world.
I'm an Arsenal fan btw. I AGREE that Foden is more talented than Saka. I also wish that our fans would stop calling him world class and using dumb reasons to justify it. Doesn't really matter if he is in the top 5 right wingers in the world right now or not, that doesn't automatically make him world class, especially when the standards for that position isn't exactly crammed full of talent.
I agree that Foden is more talented than Saka. But Buvey, stop making dumb arguments all the time. There are a multitude of reasons why Foden is a better player with a higher ceiling, and all you can ever say is 'buh wut haz heee won thoo?' 'has he dun it in a final tho?'. You make me lose braincells every time I try and watch you argue a point. So old now.
Arsenal fan. Rory is completely correct here. Although I'd say Saka would be ranked 3rd of the three this season, he's been England's best player the last 2 major competitions and has been consistent for arsenal for the past 4 years. If I was ranking them, it would be Foden, Saka, Palmer. If Palmer keeps up though, it won't be long before I'd put him over Saka because I do feel Saka hides behind numbers and his performances haven't been that rest this season
Can we also admit saka’s first season in the league was at LB and he’s also way better defensively and harder working without the ball than Foden or Palmer
Fair play to Rory here, showed how deluded those two were..
From an Arsenal fan, Foden is more technically gifted but saka is a better player all round, up untill KDB’s injury at the start of the season this wasn’t even a debate…
Hang on, Cole Palmer is a victim of a system around him that's failing, but this was never the case for Saka?
They guy literally was the only bright light that Arsenal had for a few years and carried the team and now he finally has some help. Palmer is doing extremely well and basically the exact same thing Saka was doing though with a higher goal output but less assists.
Palmer >>> Haaland if we are wanting to base it off just a season. I'd love to see the excuses from these guys as to why that's not the case and then how they then would justify why Saka isn't in the conversation.
Foden couldn’t start for city until this season whereas saka was arsenals most important player for the last 3 seasons
Foden right now is better but over the last 2 years saka/foden very comparable.
People forget saka has played some of his best games vs the big 6. Scored against Bayern Munich. Englands best player at the WC. England POTY back to back. Sakas worst form over 3-4 years and he has equal GA to foden. Joke comparison. Also fodens achievements are mostly down to the players around him, I wouldn’t say he’s been that influential in city’s recent success. Imo up until this season he’d be 5/6th on the team sheet. Saka has carried arsenal on his own at times
In Saka’s first season when he was 18 years old and got 4 goals and 13 assists, Adam was calling him Januzaj. 21 year old Palmer does slightly better but doesn’t get the same slander
In the biggest match of Pep Guardiolas career at City, a Champions League final and trevle on the line... the best manager in the world decided that he could do with Foden on the bench.
TBF Saka has really struggled I think this season at times and I think it's down to being overplayed for like 5 years now. Palmer is fresh and with a point to prove and Foden has maybe has had his best season in the premier league. Foden, Palmer and Watkins are all close to player of the year but Saka isn't even Arsenal's best player this season with Rice, Saliba, even Odeguard? And if we're being fair even Arsenal fans should admit that Saka has had the weakest season of the three. I don't mean this as any real criticism on Saka just that Palmer might win the golden boot as a midfielder?? and Foden has been scoring screamers all season like the goal against Real Madrid.....
I'd chuck Gordon into the mix. Stats speak for themselves
Jla did a vod comparing the 2, he knows far more than these 3 combined
Haven’t started yet but I know where this is going.
Rory’s point is pretty valid. Obviously, Palmer is a fantastic player and could become literally world-class. BUT Saka is more proven.
He’s been more reliable for both Arsenal and England for years now. It’s still relatively early days for Cole.
Everyone says Rory has mad takes and Adam is clueless but Buvey is the worst by a mile guy is an absolute helmet didn't make one valid point against Saka even though I agree Foden is better he's had it so much easier than Saka playing for such a great team and having his minutes constantly managed whereas Saka don't get a break . If they swapped clubs Saka would be cooking and winning leagues and Foden would be looked at as lesser of a player he is kind of carried by City's brilliance
What the fuck is Rory talking about? Over the last 4 seasons Saka's output has been better than Foden's in one of them... Even then, he only had 2 more GA than Foden, whilst also being on pens and Foden having 2 ankle injuries and appendicitis during the season. Rory's weird anti-City agenda continues. 3 years ago, he was claiming Mason Mount was on Foden's level, too.
All different talent, all very incremental players for their teams. Foden is a better footballer than saka, yes. But it’s very close. Not by a stretch. Ability wise, Palmer is creatively the best amongst the three. Foden is technically better amongst the three. Saka as a winger, is the best of the three. All very important for their teams. Saka starts for Chelsea but not city. Foden starts for arsenal and Chelsea. Palmer starts for arsenal but not city at the moment.
Saka scores constantly against the big prem teams. Excluding City he has scored multiple goals against all the big teams.
Buvey really just playing heel on the podcast
Saka has started and Foden hasn’t because city have the best squad in the world😂 pep didn’t rush him in until this season, he didn’t need to - he’s had Sane, mahrez, grealish, KDB, Bernardo etc etc.
Buvey rewriting history as usual. Inter bossed the CL final and should've won it. Claiming Foden ran that final is laughable.
Also Adam stills massively rates Rashford, means hes obviously not in any position to judge ability
All three are of similar great quality, they are different forwards who are devastating in different ways
There is not a single thing saka has that the other 2 don’t
@@jjtheking4tw928 he is a lot more direct off of the right. While Foden is a bit more fiesty and nimble and Palmer is more composed and gives off the effortless energy, Saka does the obvious things but quickly and with purpose. His crossing in open play tends to be very good, and his finishing is similar to the other two. Im a Spurs fan, but you have to admire good football when you see it
Obviously Foden is top. Palmer is technically better than Saka but Saka has been around for longer so gotta put him #2 for now
Just came to comment as I already know where this conversation will go before watching. Don't forget McKola said 2/3 years ago that saka was shit. Agenda never left him.
Foden is better than Saka. But Adam and Buvey leaned wayyy too far anti-Saka. They talk like he’s crap. He’s not WC, but he IS very good. Also Buvey’s argument of Foden winning the treble like give me a break he’s on Pep’s City and didn’t start till this year.
Bukayo Saka doenst influence games they say , yet the majority of our attacks are on his side. Its obvious Saka is on a complete different spectrum to those both, he is not an actor he is a baller. Give him the ball and something good will come out.
I am a united supporter but it's offensive to put Saka in this conversation. He is guaranteed to go start for England while the other 2 may not make it, he has scored above 16 goals for the past 3 years
so early to this one, LETS GO BOYS!
Saka has been a starter for Arsenal and England for sometime. Saka have been key in Euros, 1good Foden season just blinds you’ll yah😂
You want to know why Saka is getting hate, because of Arsenal fans overhype. They said Saka was better than Rodrigo, RODRIGO. Other than that Saka is a good player for sure.
It is sakas first season in champions league with time he will be good in champions league
Saka has been world class, stop hating. No one has scored more and assisted more than him in that RW position for Arsenal and he has also played over 3000 minutes; unlike Foden who was rotated a lot more at City. Palmer needs another few seasons of this quality and he might surpass both.
Salah has always scored and assisted more than Saka.
@@TP-pq9xxwhy do you think that having to compare Saka to one of the best players in PL history degrades Saka in any way?
@@miniman2132 What the comment said was false. Why do people feel the need to lie about Saka to make him seem like a better player?
@@TP-pq9xx anyone who says that Saka is currently better then Salah is just doing it for the banter .. my advice to you would be to not give as much credence to banter accounts on Twitter as you do.
The point remains that, if you offer me Saka or Salah, I’m taking Saka.
Younger, huge potential, massive talent and incredibly marketable.
@@miniman2132 No one said anything about Twitter. The comment that I responded to here on youtube, in this comment thread says that Saka has always gotten more g/a than anyone on the RW which means they forgot about Salah.
Saka has already hit his ceiling, there's no potential left for him.
Buvey is so biased it is sad; Saka has 18 g/a vs the big six. Palmer has been good for only six months. Foden, excluding this season, was a bench player. To say Saka does not influence games is pure Twitter talk. “Running the game against Inter In the Final” wasn't even starting and only played because De Bruyne got injured. And was one of the worse in the field.
This season has been class,but stop being biased.
How is comparing Wayne Rooney to Ashley Young relative to Saka vs Foden? McKola is so emotional, makes him stupid.
Also hate the trophies discussion when you compare individuals, Man City would still have won those titles if you swapped Saka with Foden, and Arsenal would still trophyless.
no Kane has been the first name on the England team sheet for those years
Buvey has become the funniest man on RUclips, "sent him to Londis to get some Ribena."
Rory Jennings is outrightly has more football knowledge than these clowns.
Would both of them had argued that because Tottenham had won nothing thtoughout Harry Kane's stint at the club diminished his talent or quality.
Saka & Palmer have got bigger heart to carry their teams irrespective of level of talents they are playing with, Foden is a more skillful than Saka but that doesn't make him the David Silva, Auero, Yaya Toure and KDB of Man City.
Saka has carried england ehike foden has been anonymous every time he has been called up
Your memory is really terrible
Palmer better than Saka? 😂 and you ask which teams did Saka score against? Can you ask the same for Palmer.
Foden 1 season can’t blind us all of Saka brilliance in 4 seasons
i normally can enjoy the view buvey adam and soemtimes rory makes, as an arsenal fan i can see points they make and accept when theres some niave points or just some banter.
but comparing saka and foden debate to rooney and young, is criminal.
foden rotated in and out of the city team for 5 years, has his first brilliant season.
saka starting in an arsenal team for 4 years(i know we finished 8th,5th and 2nd), england player of the year twice.
and foden has just about got few starts for england and a few games subbed on LOL
foden is better than saka, but the conversation is there and not as clear cut.
cant believe rory is the guy speaking facts, adam just salty he has a fidgit spinner at right wing, pleb.
rory is speaking sense here.
Buvey saying Palmer could just cut in for England when he’s watched Pep pin wingers on the sidelines for years is crazy lol
Yall talk about burn out....Jude is still running full 90th box to box. Thats a difference of world class and Saka.
Saka is fouled a lot more. 6 times per yellow last season
Jude has played in the Bundes and Laliga for 3 years, both amazing leagues but come nowhere close to the Prem, where Saka has done it for 4 years
I can’t believe Buvey said he doesn’t want losers in his squad talking about Saka as if Palmer isn’t playing for a mid table team
Recency’s bias is Insane. Everybody knows Saka ain’t having the best of seasons yet his numbers are right there with the two and he’s been consistent for 4 years carrying arsenal
Then according to my preference I will have Bruno as last choice as attacking midfielder
This is outrageous
Adam hit the crack pipe before this video
Rare W for Rory in this vid
I think right now Saka is third tho at the Euros i would start Saka and Palmer comes off the bench fresh with his energy and trickery, that would be a nightmare for tired Defenders.
And comparing Saka to Ashley Young is so dumb am a United fan but Truth is our fan base has one of the dumbest takes.