TOP 5 MOST UNDERWHELMING PLAYERS OF THE SEASON RANKED!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- @RoryJenningsFootball, @TurkishLDN, @sugashaun and Flex @UnitedViewTV rank the Top 5 most underwhelming players in the Premier League this season on the latest episode of The Playlist.
00:00 Coming up
01:33 Top 5s revealed
02:31 Did Arsenal fans overhype Gabriel Martinelli?
05:14 Does Moises Caicedo have better metrics than Declan Rice?
08:55 Is Pep Guardiola to blame for Erling Haaland's drop off?
15:12 Did Mason Mount make a mistake joining Man Utd?
18:35 Has Rasmus Hojlund been underwhelming?
24:47 How does Hojlund compare to Nicolas Jackson?
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Who's been the most underwhelming player in the Premier League this season? Tell us in the comments!
Rashford > Saka
Rashford or Anthony
Casemiro has been useless this season and also I’d put Sven Botman up there.
Rashford
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Rory on caicedo “you can’t hold the price tag against him”
What did he say about arsenal spending 70m on havertz
But it’s his 2nd big price tag and has a lot of experience at this stage
@@charliejordan7033 he didnt choose his price tag
@@dpatel3388 oh Jesus Christ nobody does, what’s your point? 🤣
@@dpatel3388next think think before you speak.
@@charliejordan7033 Havertz cost 60m.
That's less then Szoboszlai (70m), Caicedo (115m), Hojlund (70m), Doku (65m).
Havertz has outperformed all of them.
Szoboszlai has had a disaster season who went off the boil after 5 games.
“Caicedo got Better metrics than rice “ bro partey made that guy do the splits with that dummy 😂
I mean do these chelsea fans live here?? On earth?? Like what??
Ironic how you guys aren't showing any intelligence either, people aren't saying that Caicedo is better than Rice, but with those stats they actually mean something and suggest he's a lot better than people say. Read between the lines people.
Lol
Thats the last time we see this fella on the show😂
@@usm4n992what stats? He just said caiceido's metrics are better than rice's but didnt name them. He could be chatting rubbish and you are falling for it.
Erling Haaland? This Rory guy is still upset because last season his prediction was the most laughable thing itw
Hes right ish
@@Ali-fb5km being a top scorer in the prem is most likely not being underwhelming
@@maringunner3821he has been underwhelming by definition though. It’s not crazy to say people expected far more from him than just scoring a bunch of tap ins this season. He has pretty much ghosted every important game, and his performances aside from scoring an unimportant goal in an already comfortable game has been underwhelming. It’s not unfair to hold a world class talent to a different standard
@@hamzaafc06 scoring tap ins are hard, if it was easy every striker in the world would score at the levels that Haaland normally does, but majority of all time great strikers score far less then him.
By this logic though, Harry Kane isn`t world class either.
he ghosts in big games for club and country consistently.
@@maringunner3821 watch him with your EYES
People say halaand like he isn’t the top scorer and been out through injury for months😂
Still been absolute trash, he has the best front 3 and 2 behind in the world. Any striker city have will 9/10 be top scorer
@@kieranj1332 Absolute trash and top score means everyone who isn't on more goals has been worse.
@@kattphatt well that’s bullocks, Cole palmer and Watkins are below him and far better than him. Haaland having the same season as salah, bar the goals completely average
@@kieranj1332 you can say the same about most strikers. cr7 never created shit f.e. still nobody cares.
Haaland can't even dribble or kick a ball properly
Turkish's handwriting is clean!!
I was about to say this. Looks like a font on Word 😂
Was thinking that, my goat
Where the hell is Rashford? Best season of his life last season, and now hes no where to be seen. Top of the list easily!
We always knew Rashford was inconsistent
Haaland won the treble, the whole team is exhausted. And he's still the league's top scorer despite being out for months. Rory will never let his bias go. Blaming pep is a lazy take when haaland literally broke every goal scoring record and was the CL and prem golden boot
This season his performances against Liverpool, Arsenal and Real Madrid was a disgrace. He genuinely looked like Eddie Nketiah out there
@@mrhussain9008 Okey and? This is Haaland`s first season and only season in his career so far where he hasn`t been completely insane.
and he also has suffered an injury. come on apply some context atleast it isn`t difficult.
@@thetruth4654 he’s looked trash this season stop going off stats and how long he’s had off, he been trash. Pep will ruin him. He was 100 times better at dortmund.
He’s missed more big chances than Darwin nunez
@@kieranj1332 Stop going off goals for a striker? Are you high?
What a load of rubbish, Haaland has played 39 games for City this season and has 31 goals and 6 assists to show for it... ANY OTHER PLAYER this would be an insane season but because of the bizarre standards he set last season he's now "underwhelming"... what a joke.
i know u need to defend ur guy but you know better than anyone hes ghosted against every big team in both epl and champions league
i like him he seems like a chill dude but he only bullies relegation fodder, look at his goals distribution this season.
the thing with city is, they have so much world class talent across the field that they can make up for it if one of their stars has an off day. de bruyne, foden, rodri, alvarez, bernardo will all step up
compare him to watkins, scoring 1 goal to secure a win against arsenal is more important than scoring 4 against a burnley
He ‘s such a stat merchant that’s the point scoring 5 against luton don’t mean shit
Dominik Szoboszlai by a mile. Inherited the iconic number 8 Gerrard shirt and played well when there was no pressure but crumbled in the run-in. He has literally been ghosting games.
suga shauns ball knowledge is underrated
He’s fuelled by hatred and bias. He’s clueless
@@yessi1585 fuelled is nuts, like wen?…n especially on chelsea he has the most realistic view
@@killintime2408 he hates Liverpool and insulted the 97 who passed away. Horrible man
@@yessi1585 i ain’t see tht but i hear u….idk wat he said or the context but judging a man by one mistake ain’t fair…anyways his footballing knowledge is a different thing too
@@killintime2408 I’ve watched him on SDS, he said salah is a bad footballer.. can’t take anyone serious who says nonsense like that
SUGA SHAAAUUNNNN
E.HAALAND first? 😳 I swear u can't take Rory seriously 😒. Haaland had 2 month's injury this season yet he have :
31 gaols , 6 Assists in 40 games casually like nothing happen 🤔 . U can't tell me he had bad season , it may not better then last season but still Great For young Striker like him , i do agree tho he need improve his Passing , drop deep etc but that will come with time he's still young player .
i mean feel free to say things like that, just dont expect anyone to regard your opinions again
Notice that the only person on there that did not defend his player is the Arsenal fan who even has more reason to. Every single one of them defended their players (who happen to be worse players by the way), except the Arsenal fan who as usual is either too honest or is just used to being the beta fan. I have never understood how these fans even with the disgraceful state of their clubs are still more confident to defend the most ridiculous situations while Arsenal fans just accept everything and even when they defend, make a mess of the defence. Imagine a Chelsea fan putting Martinelli top of his list of underwhelming players. A flipping Chelsea fan. Gaslighting us into not judging his player off price tags but will never afford the same grace if the shoes were on the other foot. Farcical
What's more surprising is how other opposition fans ignore this and pile on Arsenal, and they defend the nonArsenal player. I mean, how are we sitting here talking about Martinelli (who they've never rated) be more underwhelming than the most expensive football player signing? Or that same player, Caicedo having better stats than Rice? But the comment section is inundated with Suga Shaun praises? It's ridiculous 😂😂😂😂😂
SUGA!!! Always keeping it real, love seeing you on this. Hopefully more to come 👌🏽🙏🏽👏🏽
Martinelli? His game hasn't changed, what changed was the entire left side personnel throughout the season. Player relationships are important, when he had Zinchenko, Xhaka, and Jesus to link up with on the left last season he was able to find more joy. This season he had to hold Havertz's hand, deal with Kiwior learning to invert, and Jesus being out for most of the season. Trossard has been good when coming on as a super sub, to fullbacks that have already been run ragged, but defences are still doubling Martinelli and he's still blowing by them, he just can't get into central positions enough because he has less help on the left than he had last season.
Arsenal supporters say that Saka is triple and quadruple teamed on every possession so that should leave the pitch wide open on Martinelli's side.
@@TP-pq9xx You took an off hand brainless comment from Rory and just parotted it without thinking.
If play is switched from right to left, the other teams defense adjusts and it's the wingers who help, the opposing LW comes back to double Saka with the LB, which is why White overlaps, but if an additional midfielder comes to help that's where a triple up can happen.
This doesn't necessarily free up Martinelli, Arsenal don't whip crosses into the back post or crowd the box enough for cutbacks - that's not a Martinelli issue it's a tactics issue, largely because of how many low blocks we face, getting to the goal line or getting into positions where we have acres of space to run into, teams are often already set defensively and how Arsenal breaks them down is with their intricate passing patterns, patterns which require relationships to be built between players which was the central point I made.
@@TP-pq9xxnot when teams park the bus. At least use your head mate
Martinelli has been disappointing this season. Makes the wrong decision too often and his dribble success rate is a lot lower this season
Love the Haaland bias.. he´s still top scorer and have missed 10-15 games due to injury, where as Hojlund didn´t score in his first 16 games. Martinelli has been average at best.. Caicedo has been terrible for a 100 + million player. Mason Mount has been injured, played okay when he´s got the chance, but his season is ruined by the worst manager in pl history in Ten hag.
Mount was shite every fukin time lol
Missed 6 But We move
He missed 5 games mate also he ‘s got the most chances missed in the prem aswell with the terrible conversion rate
1. Hoijlund
2. Mount
3. Caicedo
4. Haaland
5. Martinelli
The reason Haaland isn't higher is because he was ALWAYS a scrub, but just put up good numbers.
People are finally waking up to the fact that he is shit.
He’s a goalscorer that has 38 goals in 43 games
Why is Haaland here?
this is Haaland`s first season in his career where he hasn`t massively outperformed his expected goals.
and he is still tied for PL top scorer, Rory we all know why you include him and that is because he is mentally traumatized you, so you need any excuse possible to try and push him down. And Haaland has been injured for months
not even a city fan but haaland disrespect is crazy he missed almost 3 months of season and still top scorer and he would be bagging goals even if we were not in city team he did in champions league with salsburg and dortmund he has 23 goals in 19 games he is on pace to be a all time great and all see is people shitting on him
So funny the excuses that come out when it's a player from your team. Caicedo top and it's not close stop moving the goalposts
Chelsea fans trying to wash away how much money they've spent by claiming it doesn't matter
Let’s use Rory’s logic.. we signed Haaland for 55M, never played a game in the prem, wins everything and breaks the record, this season gets injured for 3/4 months, still top goalscorer and still gets slated 😂 Haaland has set such a high bar that if he doesn’t score 40/50 a season he’s underperforming, he’s still got 30/35 goals
😂 55m except the 30 million fee paid to haalands father and other massive bonuses to riola .. another well over 100 mil pound signing by city .. city have financial doped beyond even chelsea , dont cry when it all comes crashing down
55 million?? Cmon we all know he wasn’t that all in all he probably costed more than caicedo or enzo
@@TheChampIsHere_ why would I cry? We’re innocent and the court will tell us that
@@101notfound17 lying and begging it’s more than 50M just to make you sleep better at night.. it’s 55M for his release clause.. fact like it or not
@@kieran4435 mate they paid like 50 million agent fee for him then paid so many bonuses and extra additions to Dortmund he definitely costed more than anyone right now also his wage is like the highest in the prem right now if you wanna include that
Dude that mentioned the Caicedo/Rice stats is hilarious 😂. Before bringing stats up at least make an attempt to understand the one you’re bringing up, saying you’re not a stat person isn’t an excuse when you are the one bringing it up😂😂😂
It’s ridiculous that Haaland is on this, 38 goals in 43 games! Thats unbelievable.
Good video guys
i love this. cast is crazy
You can make the same arguments you're making for Haaland for Martinelli! Teams play deeper against Arsenal which then makes it difficult for him.
Big up Suga!
Thanks for sharing, Bruv. Darko put me onto your content.
No disrespect to Shaun but even as an Arsenal fan I miss Paul's delusional Liverpool bias
Full disrespect to Shaun why have they replaced Paul with another chelsea fan and a fat blob
Haaland has 25 goals and 5 assists in 28 games. How is that underwhelming?
Big up Suga Shaun
If Hojlund is on this list, then Nicolas Jackson needs to be on this list, AND TOP! He's been pants. At least Hojlund had a run to back his season up.
I hear it, I don’t think there was much expectation from Jackson though especially thinking Nukuku was gonna lead the line
Nico Jackson cost half the price of mudryk and plays for the arguably a worse team and has got more goals than holjund…
Jackson is way better than what people give him credit for and holjund is worse than what people think
Jackson cost half the price of Hojlund you muppet.
Jackson cost £32 million pounds, and other than his awful finishing, he has over performed in the other areas of his game. His hold up play, dribbling, and link up is far above average for a 22 year old's first season in the league. I'm a United fan and I'd be perfectly happy if we bought him for £35 million in the summer.
@@georgefalconer9470 His finishing has been poor but his open play goals this season are still more than Salah, Havertz and Saka.
shaun has good ball knowledge keep up the content 👍
Big Up Brotha Sug 👊🏻💪🏻
Big up suga Shaun
I get the arguments for everyone but yeah, Enzo for me is not only underwhelming but disappointing. Not even as a Chelsea fan but just a football fan, there's just something missing.
I really hope this summer he gets it together and maybe Poch (or another manager) get him to change up his role/position
Chelsea fans have to take the cake for being the most deluded fanbase out there. I get that it’s mostly just living in denial but they constantly want to argue that players aren’t that bad, or sometimes even that they’re really good.
If these players were half as good as they made out they wouldn’t be in mid table for a second consecutive season. Three managers, plus two interims, but the players aren’t the problem? Ok.
I saw one comparing Jacksons goal scoring to Havertz a week or two ago, like are we just acting as if Havertz didn’t play in midfield for half the season? He’s listed as starting up front for Arsenal 14 times in the league and has 9 goals from those games, if you want to compare numbers, use those otherwise you might as well be comparing to Rice or Odegaard. It’s crazy.
Haaland first is absolutely outrageous when you see the others on the list what the fuckkkkk
Martinelli has been injured majority of this season. He hasn’t gotten 5 games on the bounce. Like cmon cut the kid some slack. When he’s fully fit we see what he can do. Mount hasn’t even had 20 games under his belt this season so wtf is he on the list for. Haaland has also missed a lot of games this season as well and is still top GS in the league. This video was completely unwarranted and fodder!
It’s fair actually. No matter if he was injured, ill, or whatever reason, you can’t deny the fact his output isn’t on the level of last season. Facts don’t care about feelings, there’s no slack to cut. But you should take it as a compliment as he’s only in the list because people know what Martinelli can do
Big up shaun💫
WHY IS ENZO NOT ON THIS LIST WTF
WATCH THE EPISODE TO FIND OUT!!! 👀
@@sugashaun he got a quick mention but he needs to be one of the guys on the list
The reason Mason mount was brought in was because ten hag thought he could play Bruno and him together with casemiro sitting. It quite quickly came to eth’s attention that it didn’t work. It was a mistake by the manager/recruitment in the first place.
I don't care about the rest of the order, but Rasmus has to be 5th. When he arrived, there was no expectation. He was young, raw, only played like 24 times for Atalanta, and was only jokingly compared to Haaland because of their similar sounding names.
Caicedo was one of the best players last season, Mount has been an England regular for years, Martinelli went from almost 30 goal involvements in a title charge in a great team, to a fraction of that a year later, and Haaland went from the best season ever and Balon d'or shouts to not even being in Balon discussion.
Not to mention, Holjund won player of the month a few months back. So, what I'm saying is, the player with the least expectation has exceeded expectations the most. He has to be last on this list!
Wait, and he was injured when he first arrived, and he has Antony and an out of form Rashford supplying him, and he has no-one to learn from/compete for his spot. If any other Man United player deserves to be on this list, it's Rashford
When you pay 72m for a 20 year old striker then clearly as a club you are expecting that player to become world class. That is his expectation despite United supporters trying to pretend otherwise.
@@TP-pq9xx Mate, if you could've told me who Rasmus Holjund was 12 months ago, then I'd be impressed. You can't judge the quality/expectation of a player based on how much United spend on players. £80 mill for Maguire, £80 mill for Antony, £50 mill for AWB. None of these players were worth that much. Just like I wouldn't expect Caicedo to perform to a £115 mill price tag. However, based on performances last season (the only actual thing you can base a player on), Holjund had very little expectation and has out performed Caicedo, Martinelli and Mount despite having WAY WAY WAY less expected of him
@@TP-pq9xx you can't be serious man it's Manchester United u are talking about the worst team in the world at paying the correct value for players
Big up My man Suga Sean needs man on more Episodes
Big up suga
Big up Shaun
Big up man like Suga 🔥🔥
It's Marcus Rashford. 30+ goals last season, abysmal this year
Rasmus Hojlund has averaged a goal every 201 minutes for Manchester United - despite going months as the LEAST passed to striker in the ENTIRE premier league.
If he hadn’t been injured, he’d probably have about 25 goals this season in all comps, which is excellent for a striker who rarely ever gets the ball.
Haaland receives less passes per 90 than Hojlund. And if he hadn't been injured he'd be on 40+ goals already.
Hojlund would be approaching 20 goals if he had stayed fit. You're almost doubling his goals total and there's no way he was ever going to play 6000 minutes this season.
@@TP-pq9xx No he doesn’t. Rasmus Hojlund is statistically the lowest-passed-to striker per 90 in the premier league.
Who wouldn’t have played 6000 minutes? Man United don’t have a striker to replace Hojlund. If he’d stayed fit, he would’ve played 90 mins almost every game. They literally don’t have an alternative.
@@deangreen2567 Hojlund can't be the lowest passed to striker because Haaland receives less passes than him.
Haaland receives 17.1 passes per 90 in the PL, Hojlund receives 17.9 passes per 90 in the PL.
Haaland has 22.1 touches per 90 in the PL, Hojlund has 25.5 touches per 90 in the PL.
Even if Hojlund literally played 90 minutes in all of United's 52 games this season (which he is not physically capable of doing) it would only come out to 4680 minutes. Nowhere near 6000 minutes. At his current goal pace that would leave him at 23 goals all comps (rounded up). And that's at the end of the season playing every single minute, not where he would be currently with 5 games left to play.
@@TP-pq9xx You’ll have to cite where you got your numbers because they aren’t the numbers I’m seeing. No point just putting numbers down without any information as to where they came from.
@@deangreen2567 That's opta stats on Fbref. Where are yours from?
And I gave you the math for Hojlund's minutes as well. He's got 14 goals on 2866 minutes. If United buy a new striker and rotate Hojlund next season he should be around this same minutes total next season. So he will remain a 15 goal striker even if he's fully fit all season.
Big up!
Haaland feels underwhelming because he hasn’t matched his record making season last season, even though he’s leading the golden boot currently. He’s underwhelming because of his own insane standards that he set, so I guess there’s a half-truth to it but he definitely does not deserve to be on the same list as Caceido, Enzo, Højlund AND (the big elephant in the room) ANTONY?
Forget the standards bro let’s be honest you watched him against Madrid both legs or both matches against arsenal Liverpool spurs villa or Newcastle or Chelsea or the fa cup literally the top few teams and he failed to even get 15 touches in the whole game
suga shaun is a great addition
The whole Chelsea squad is underwhelming. Mudrich specially
Anthony is in the ground pushing up flowers and you all are talking about Hojland, Halland, Mount etc SMH
Antony was the first guy I thought of. His season last year was bad, but he's even WORSE this year. 86M
No one expected Anthony to do well
Best episode yet. Best line up too. Cant stand expressions and the liverpool and city fans also.
Turkish's handwriting is insane
please drop another episode with Suga Shaun
This is just another level of hypocrisy towards city and Haaland
As per Haaland, I think too many ppl with a myopic perspective are going to hard on him. He’s had a fractured bones in his foot since the end of Nov and was out till end of Jan and now, hurt it again in the RM hence him coming off. That said, yes he’s def missed some sitters and he is 100% to blame for it. Undoubtedly. But I also think there should be a closer look at Pep and how his tactics, especially this season, are playing to Haaland’s weaknesses and not strengths.
To the frustration of anyone with a set of eyes, Pep has been playing with an absurdly high line that has left us open to solid counter attacks from every, yes…every, team we’ve played and the defensive woes are backed up with the stats. But what a lot of ppl are not talking about is the negative effect it’s having on Haaland’s game when City okay the high line AND their buildup play is so slow, many people say it’s boring. Fair assessment. Offensively, Pep plays the high line to press the opposition further but the downside is when combined with slow buildup play, it allows the opposition to reset their defensive shape and if playing a low block, allows the whole opposition team to flood the box and sucks the space away that is needed for Haaland to function. This was well shown in the RM game at the Etihad.
Great defenses will certainly take away some of Haaland’s attacking prowess, but when Pep plays the high line with slow buildup, whatever the opposition defense can’t take from Haaland, Pep’s tactics will. Additionally, how many times this season have we seen Haaland breaking the lines and the City attack sees him, and then instead of passing to him or moving the ball fwd, they instead elect to pass literally or backwards and slow the play that much more. It’s like the trifecta of hell for Haaaland: defenders take away some aspects of his game, Pep’s high line and slow buildup takes away much of what the opposition defense can’t and then whatever is leftover, the City players take away (exception KDB and Foden Doku to a degree) by ignoring Haaland with quick, albeit risky passes, electing to pass sideways or backwards.
If you look at Haaland’s heat maps from BvD and compare them to his at City this season, they’re night and day. Haaland has multiples more touches, linkup and buildup play at BvD than at City. Why? BvD played to his strengths: thru balls, quick transitions, risky passes played etc. It’s the complete opposite of what Pep does. Also, I think it’s worth mentioning that Pep has drastically changed his tactics from last year to this year and we also last 45GA in Gundo & Mahrez who would create for Haaland and those players were not replaced properly (City board bottled the summer window).
Does all this excuse Haaland’s spurning of some huge chances this season? Absolutely not, but given all the change in personnel, Peps tactics and injuries he’s sustained, it certainly shows that it’s not as simple as it’s all down to Haaland
Pep is never going to be a counter-attacking, defensive manager. Haaland knew exactly what his role would be when he chose to join City and I don't think he's unhappy with how it's turned out. His finishing has been a bit below expectations this season but he would still be on 40+ goals all comps if he hadn't been injured and playing through an injury. If he was fit all season and finished a little better he could be having a 50-60 goal season easily in this system that you're saying is so harmful to him.
@@TP-pq9xx Has Pep changed his tactics from last season to this one? Yes. He's moved the backline even higher and is essentially playing a wingback system with players who cannot perform the same way as true wingbacks. Walker is the perfect example of this. Is it any wonder that NF for example, targeted Walker's side for most of the counter attacks? I could go on and on with other examples of it simply not working well as it is extremely risky. You can't simply say, well the system is fine its the players. That would be nonsensical
In terms of Haaland, are you saying that the new high line pressing system that Pep has implemented this season has not negatively affected Haaland's game? Yes he def has made some mistakes, 100% and he needs to own from missed sitters to spurning some chances. But beyond that, why have we not seen as many chances created for Haaland this season? Why is that he seems to be so easily taken out games? We've even seen with Alvarez in the 9 as well and he dribble, play false 9 etc. The system, and I am surprised you don't see it at all. Maybe in your eye, Pep is infallible and therefore anything he does cannot be an issue and therefore it must the players or something else.
But more and more people are waking up and seeing that his system has a lot of tradeoffs with it
Enzo
Rashford
Caicido
Marteinelli
Casmiro
Why are you expecting 20 goals from marte ??? Hes a very very good as MidF guy, his play and assists with few goals should do him justice.
Saka, kai, jesus should be more when it comes to goals.
Orde and marte are the once who provides really good assists and few goals every now and then.
Martinellis creativity/ passing is worse than Sakas so people expect goals from him
No rashford is criminal
So for the next 5 years every time haaland has a dip in form expect the 'was I right about Haaland' from Rory
Where's Enzo Fernandez 😂
tbf it’s hard for caicedo to stand out in this team, i’m still somewhat upset we didn’t sign him over endo, i don’t think he was worth the money right now but he’s like 21 so if we get 10 years out of him then sell him for 30m like fabinho it’s a great signing.
Proof that Rory don't watch anything other than Prem, to suggest that Messi only played 7 good games in 2022 when he was the fact the best player in that season for Ligue 1. Haaland only triumphed Messi in goals, but other than that, Messi is so clear of Haaland and especially in eye test.
Didnt make the Ligue 1 team of the year but won the B d'Or, yeah? Makes sense...
Rory talks crap even the rest of the panel don’t agree with him. Funny how he doesn’t mention haaland didn’t score in any final
@@RoryJenningsFootballhe was literally in the team of the season in ligue 1 for 22-23 season and had the most assists and 2nd most goals/a in the league after mbappe what you smoking
Lol how is Enzo not in this debate.
Big up sugar Shaun
Imagine saying someone is underwhelming when they are the top scorer in the league 😂😂
Martinellis Season has been definitely underwhelming. Last season teams started figuring us out and double teamed both our wingers. This is the reason we at the beginning of the season we struggled and looked like we were creatively dead. But now as Odegaard and Havertz have stepped up and abused the fact they have more space (2 less people on them) we have been shining again. Trossard is the better dribbler and finisher and now deserves to be starting. But in our system I think wingers will never get 20 plus goals in a prem season. But put Martinelli in a Liverpool Side...he would be insane.
NO RASFORD on the list and u slag off a kid Hojlund when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't really get chances created from his teammates... 🙃
Rasmus Hojlund has not been that bad tbf idk why neutral fans think so but anyone who watches a full 90min of a United game knows kid has been okay despite the price tag on his head or the bad service he gets at Utd and on top of that flex is right coz there is a lack of an experienced forward to learn from.
Mount was signed for £60m, given the iconic No. 7 shirt and has barely kicked a ball. I like him as a player but that is underwhelming.
Same with Hojlund. Not helped by the environment or tactics - and I think he’ll eventually be elite - but the reality is United would be no worse off this season had we had Weghorst up top.
Suga back on main stream shows
Big up Shaun acc using context as to why Hojlund has struggled this season🤝🏾🤝🏾 the man who can’t be killed as he calls himself on SDS😅😅
Ground duels won being used to determine who’s better than someone else is laughable. Chelsea plays a lot more defense, no shit his metrics are better
Haven’t watched the video but rice is massively overrated been better than caicedo this season but he hasn’t been a top 5 midfielder
I say this every time but Turkish has some really nice writing
I’d like to point out 888 don’t sponsor this site they just use the money they don’t pay out
Rory just destroyed his own argument in under 2 mins. First he says “we can’t judge him on price tag bc he only had 40 games in the league. He wasn’t even proven” and then he says “everyone wanted Caicedo and he was one of the best players in the league last season”…… you just made an argument and then argued against it…. 🤡😂
even as a chelsea fan rory is pure waffle lmao even in the rare occasion that I do agree with his opinions he just goes about articulating himself horribly
@@aryaaaa70 he always tries to “big brain” or “romanticize” things when he talks which is annoying and usually means he’s waffling some bad take.
and he said Højlund is rubbish.
42 g/a in 41 games but the guy is underwhelming it's a DISGRACE
How can mount be underwhelming when he hasn't played? Martinelli is having the same season as rashford. Both terrible
Man U fans will slate the Glazers, their signings and Ten hag's talent ID but will defend most of their players, make it make sense
Turkish has nice (print) handwriting
I"m a out and out gooner however I TOTALLY rate Hojland especially considering the mammoth size of the club he's at with the incredible lows they've reached and lastly his age then add the pathetic leadership he has around him "I personally think he's incredible" really really rate the young man I will go as far to say I think he has a bit more to his game than his almost namesake
While you could argue its harsh on haaland the lad needs to start scoring in the big games … the point was right they didn’t bring him to score 4 against luton
Martinelli got arsenal win against city
This Shawn guy is the one speaking the most sense and it's the first time I'm seeing him on the show
Bin the rest of em
Especially Rory
Im sorry but Haaland being part of this is crazy. WTF.
a player with jacksons technical ability and hojlunds finishing would make a decent striker tbf
Shaun good points on Martinelli, but 1sttttttttttttt lol
SHAUN SPEAKING FACTS….THE FALL OFF OF MARTINELLI IS CRAZY
Yessss Suga Shaun knows ball.
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Of course Turkish whose Havertz biggest hater is gonna lie about Pepe first season to try downplay Havertz.
Pepe did not score 11 goals his debut season, he scored 5.
Havertz has 11 goals so far in PL.
Pepe had 5 goals his debut season.
Havertz has 11 PL goals in 33 games for Arsenal so far this season.
Pepe had 15 PL goals in 80 PL games in his entire Arsenal career.
Havertz has also been playing out of position in midfield while Pepe played in his best position.
Havertz conversion rate is the best in his PL career by great margin while having career best scoring.
Arsenal system share the goals and have several players with close to 10 or more goals.
What more could Havertz had goal wise for Turkish to think he's good.
He’s a fake fan, he doesn’t mention Jesus who havertz has done better then and yet nothing
@@JB-nj2wr Jesus last season scored 11 PL goals and got alot of praise.
Havertz who spent majority of the season in midfielder already has 11 PL goals.
Jesus has never had a season as clinical as Havertz this season in his PL career.
Jesus best scoring season had 14 PL goals but missed a league worst 23 big chances.
Jesus has underperformed his xG by alot every season.
Havertz everyseason outside of Chelsea has overperformed his xG including this season.
You lost your head because I worded it wrong 😂 get a grip, Pepe had 11 goal contributions in his first season.
You can put Havertz numbers here as much as you like, they’re poor.
Pepe was poor.
Havertz is poor.
Simple.
Big up Suga Shaun big up SDS Podcast!
Haaland was bought too win the champions league rory
the obeese geezer needs to watch some more premier league games that arent chelsea matches, clearly bases his opinion on football twitter
I’m a Liverpool fan and I think szoboslai is really up there. Maybe there wasn’t much expectation but I think he should’ve been better than he has 🤷♂️