INFP here, I was once in a bank robbery and was totally unaware of it. It is one of my childrens' favourite stories to tell about me and my cluelessness.
You just made me doubt my INFP self typing I usually notice everything that happens around me but only if I am not daydreaming which I do a lot. Have you daydreamt during the bank robbery?
“Oh no wait! Pause! Let me just equip different armor, this one is about to break” Also: “Oh no wait! Pause! Let me just change the difficulty setting real quick.”
@@anythingwilldo_833 If you don't know then they're not doing a very good job lol. And I'm just talking about friendly joking with someone, not anything mean-spirited. I like INxJs.
@@JJReal-m7x Yeah. The point is not that these exact room plans wouldn't work ever. The point is that if there's an emergency, you're probably better off improvising without wasting time (Se) than "being prepared" theoretically, which some Ni dominant types can't get through their thick skulls.
Se dom finds all of this very interesting and amusing. No amount of planning strategizing will help you in the split second you have to react to unexpected situation if you can’t do the near instant calculation and reaction.
@Agent Smith You might be too slow or not, but then it's just chance and outcomes are not predictable. Which is why operations are planned down minute details and timing. Like in football, a busted play sometimes is saved by great instinct, but usually it's gonna be a sack, an incomplete, stuffed run, etc.
@Matt Bonneville This is why Ni dominants would rather be COACHES than players. Because we really don't like putting ourselves in a situation we KNOW and UNDERSTAND would require fast and reflexive responses. And we like to have as much CONTROL as possible. BUT if we have no choice in the matter, it is not about PREVENTING a disaster from happening but more of PREPARING ourselves mentally and emotionally. Yes, a Ni dominant will prepare to be surprised and make room in our minds of that possiblity. We really don't like handing ourselves to chance if we can help it. If something bad is gonna happen, it will regardless. What an Ni dominant could do (even masterfully) is devise escape routes, backup and contingency plans. Our Se inferior bodies might be slow to react but our lightning speed minds have already 10 backup plans ready.
@@savagebuck The other day while wiping down a counter, I bumped a wine glass near the edge with my elbow. I didn't see it, I just felt it. I turned my head and saw in my peripheral vision the glass tipping over the edge. With my free hand, I reached and snatched it out of the air by the base as it was heading down. That's Se in it's rawest form. Ni would move the glass away from the edge beforehand, or better yet, move it to the sink since your going to wash it anyway. But the good news was the glass was empty so no wine was wasted. 😁
EXACTLY!!! But if that were to happen to us by any chance, God... depending on our auxiliary, we're going to punish ourselves feeling bad and overthinking about it. One thing is for sure, we'll never make that same mistake again. LOL. You guys have it easier.
Respectfully, that just sounds like the opposite problem. Disrespecting the planning. That's why the best improvisers are ISTPs. Because they've got Se and Ni in the middle.
If you pour salt into a tube sock instead of quarters and then swing that at the opponent's face, it doubles the effectiveness. Blunt force + burn the eyes. Don't poke holes in my theory Dave, or ill challenge you to a sock duel.
@@mjfanta1915 In this scenario, you, of course, already have the peppered sock ready on standby.at a location where you know you'll be able to grab hold of it instantly, without sneezing.
So according to you, Ni is strictly planning... lol. Ni is not strictly planning things. the definition of intuition is knowing without the process of reasoning. That literally has nothing to do with planning. Now you can make plans BASED off your intuition. But it's not something you can just have. Your obviously an ISTJ that thinks your an intj. That's what your looking everywhere when you go to a hotel and plan your escape. Ni would be like. There's a fire, then you would immediately know what to do without having to think about it. You're analysis of Ni is starkly confused with Si. And you've been doing it for 20 years. Ni isn't organized whatsoever. It is pattern spotting and in fact is the only function that You're not consciously aware of.
As a child I had a Ninja escape plan for every room I ever entered. It has to be easy to swing from the steel rafters across a gymnasium to kick out a window and jump out right? Right?
well, when you're a kid ideas and fantasies are always way more outlandish. it's really about if, when you get older and your brain is more fully developed, do these thoughts still constantly enter your mind
Dah.. I’ll hand u my primary school swim board as well to help soften any glass shatter and also dive smoothly into the pool. Which I hope you are able to improvise as a dead man while I distract the threat and you run off safe ok?
(INTJ) I remember as a kid there were these two trees and you could climb from one to the other by hanging on a branch, and I'd set up this elaborate trap with a twig held back by another branch that would hit them. Really stupid idea, total disrespect for the sensory just like this guy. But then some bully actually came climbing to us so I waited for him to get in range and tapped the branch with one finger and it smacked into him and he got surprised and fell down. He was too intimidated to try it again. I felt like a genius mastermind.
This actually really helped me understand how Ni works, especially in contrast to Ne and Si, which are the functions I have, particularly with how the subjectivity of Ni manifests in contrast to the more objective Ne.
It's a strange experience being an ENFP around Blast-first INTJs and even ENTJs. Most chaotic people automatically fall into their "just some random idiot: disregard" category but they tend to let ENFPs into the "someone who actually kinda knows something: pay attention" VIP room. (I see a similar thing between ENTPs and INFJs.) That's very weird to the ENFP because we don't actually think we KNOW anything. We just make observations, compare/contrast them, and extrapolate conclusions.
ENFPs are built to promote themselves as the authoritative opinion on everything lol My sister is always putting value labels on everything "oh this is so ____" "I love this ____ it's the best" so people just go along with it. Everyone else goes along with this shit but I've learned to not let my sister sell me on anything because at the end of the day it's all personal opinion.
Ne dominants are very safe people to throw unfinished ideas at, because they will go along hard with any idea, any at all, and then forget about it within the next 5 minutes, so you don't have to worry about them calling you out when you inevitably change your mind 10 times over.
@@SimpleAmadeus As an ENTP I must say. I do go along with every idea, and then forget about it within the next 5 minutes. However, I call people out a lot. In fact I cannot stop checking whether the information people share is worth calling out.
The perfect example of thinking something will be one way in theory, and being proven wrong in the physical world was when they fired some frozen foam insulation at a leading edge wing mock up of a space shuttle in the post Columbia investigation. I heard that a lot of engineers or observers didn’t think it would break the wing. They all were shocked in silence when it did. They had found the root cause of the disaster. They didn’t think it would break because insulation fell off the tank on every launch, but had never caused a problem before. I liked when you said Try it! Try it!
Nah, guys, you're horrible 😂😂😂 This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time and I was both seriously amused and bemused 😂😂😂 My INFJy Ni wondered if that's how I really look through a non-Ni dominant perspective and then I asked myself whether that's really what's going on in my head without me knowing it runs so deep 😁
😩 this reminds me of all of the times I’ve told people “the best hidden weapon in any room is the fire extinguishers”. But also compared to this guys Ni tricks it’s true. Wide spray radius. The spray will hit the eyes and lungs of the attacker giving you hopefully enough time to get away.
I feel like this could be something that actaully works yh but I dont know how to operate a fire exstinguisher and am not capable of figuring it out quick enough to fend off an attacker. Try reading a fire extinguishers intructions while being shot at hahah
I do these kind of things quite often, but it's probably just my paranoia from watching too many movies, not Ni, lol. I had a whole potential zombie apocalypse escape plan prepared when I was a child, and I have my evacuation route from our house thought out in case someone breaks in or if there's a fire. last time we were at our aunt's place, I zoned out of the conversation and started thinking about how to hide and escape if someone came in to murder us. And as far as this guy's advice goes, I was like "Wow, those ideas are so great, why are you saying there's absolutely no chance that they could work?" xD
I do that to. With people breakin into my house The end of the world (by water, by Fire, by Air -this last one is in my mind those days) I heard there was a Volcano that was awake and then I was looking in the Net about the most dangerous volcanos and planing how could I scape. And I live in Brazil THERE IS NO VOLCANO. But I do believe its cuz i'am a neurotic person. Since child, planing how to save my family from a gas explosion in the house...
I had the same thought... actually I was a little confused. As an Ni dom, I wouldn't even want to watch that guy's video--it is too preoccupied with details--I want to speculate on something with a little more scope to it--categorizing awareness is kind of fun, but not planning exits. Did they say that was the sign of an Ni dom--that they hate these kinds of videos 4:29? But the video was created by an unhealthy Ni dom? Was that their point? I couldn't quite tell... Maybe I just need more context. But I agree that I don't relate to this guy at all--and it is much easier for me to see him as an ISTP.
Agreed. I think understanding Ni doms is this channel’s biggest weak spot. They are very good at a lot of types, but this is a blind spot-over and over again.
Ella Baker, I want to believe that they are correct with everything, but I can’t help but notice this too. I keep having trouble typing myself because they push this notion that if you think you’re an Ni dom, you have to be an ExxP. While I can see myself in an ExxP light, it still doesn’t explain me. Also, what’s up with planning? does every Ni have to be a 24/7 planner? I thought that Ni was also abstraction, categorization, connections, patterns....
@@dorrian6462 Hello, if you have trouble typing yourself I recommend you try C.S. Joseph videos and his type grid. His work is very good and has greatly helped me understand cognitive functions, how they work and how they interact with one another. To understand Ni better you can also take a look at LiJo's video about that or AsuraPsych. I'm an INTJ and I do like planning and control. I wouldn't say that I'm utterly obsessed with it but the lack of control or plan makes me quite anxious. I'm a big picture type of person, I hate details to the point that I always need to come out of my way and make extra efforts to actually pay attention to details, which can be draining if done too often. I do love new ideas and concepts but I'm approaching them in an organized manner. Ni is about connecting the dots, putting two and two together, finding patterns, ways to get you from point A to point B. It's almost like having a constant compass in your brain telling you where to go. Ni is also willpower, having the mental strength to pave your way towards your goal and get it. I don't know if my explanations are clear but it's more or less what Ni is about, if you want more details you can check out the channels I recommended you. Hope this helps.
Arrogance: can't agree more. Sounds so EXTJ. And their examples actually apply to themselves because they ignore the same "type" of people can be very different.
Yeah I’ve watched a few of their videos now and I think they are really good at explaining Ne, but their explanations of Ni just totally miss the mark to me :/
@Tommy Hass not really sure what you mean. I never called myself an expert at any point lol. I'm just agreeing with this other person who also disagrees with them on this particular thing...
@Harry Dalton Hell no. INTP here with INTJ brother. This is him all the way. And he gets butthurt when I prove it to be impractical in real life situations that require fast thought and reaction. These things could come in handy if you actually do have those things and/or you have some time, but it's a last ditch effort at that point. I'd prepare better by having a more traditional type of weapon or accept the situation and just use my fists. It's totally Ni here, coming up with solutions that are essentially impractical because they constantly fail to consider the situation or may totally overlook or disregard important information or the fundamentals of getting to the solution or developing their innovations. Plus, it's also just a show, which means there are variables at play like show's production or prop line to take up some time to get through the show with some shitty content.
This example of someone over-utilising their Ni seems much more indicative of it being paired with Te/Fi... As the guy approaches the situation with a "logistic" over-preparation. Whereas Ni with Fe/Ti would seemingly approach it from a much more humanistic perspective... What people will I have to deal with, what will be my emotional drains/ social dangers, etc
I need y’all to make more videos!! Y’all are so funny and I understand what y’all are talking about, unlike other videos I’ve watched. Im trying to decide if I’m an INTJ or INFJ.
I uh… do this constantly actually, like just whatever I’m doing wherever I am… but I think, from all the checklisting and verifying, that I’m an istp… did I get it wrong or is it somehow possible that I’m just a jumper? I assigned myself aux Se for situational awareness but maybe I’m working so hard at it all the time because it’s not there, and I hammer Ni a lot, I’m a three-steps-ahead of you fear-machine but it made sense to me that that’s just because my Ni is not very good that I’m just getting the worst of it
The roll of quarters in the sock is close to a military blanket party, which is a bar of soap in a sock. As Full Metal Jacket showed, and the end of this video confirmed, the target has to be held down. It's rumored that they don't leave much in the way of forensic evidence, because everything's going through multiple layers of fabric. Supposedly , the body doesn't develop welts or bruises, it just hurts like hell when there's any touch on a part of the body that's been hit. I've only heard first-hand about one from a guy admitting a group did it to someone in berthing who was consistently not up to cleanliness standards.
Think you could have been more nuanced. Ni is great if done correctly. If that guy worked for an entrepreneur with escape route planning, then great. Just laughing at him and his cognitive functions, and lack of Se dominance just seems a petty to me. And what is going on in the end of the video?
@@StormKillzone Totally ISTP vibes. His Se is good and he is very aware about his environment unlike me as an INFJ. I couldn't do what he did and I didn't like that they make a fun of him without even see his right type.
@@ege7417 Me neither to be honest. I think they add too much value to these cognitive function systems. There's so much more to a person so why would they only pinpoint the negative characteristics from some random person they don't even know? Anyways as an INFJ I was really annoyed by this video as well, I kind of feel the dude they showed looked more like an Si dom than an Ni dom though.
Isn't alternative to these scenarios to be unprepared? And statistics will be most likely in favor of using objects as weapons, in opposition to not. If you are in bad situation, you still probably lose a fight, but defending yourself with object decreases that probability. That is the whole reason, why we have weapons in the first place. And why term "improvised weapon" exists. And you cannot really choose, what things are at your disposal, if you suddenly find yourself in a fight.
@Tommy Hass The guy in the video talks about having to defend yourself as civilian/tourist, when bad situation suddenly occurs. Any kind of preparation is better than nothing, because at least you have some guidlines to calm you down and act. Otherwise you will just go into shock from all the chaos, freeze, and not respond at all. That is why military/policamen/firefighters over-train. There might be misunderstanding of what is being said though. For Se it is: you should make some weapons. Here are some examples. Something hard, heavy, with a reach (Ni). For Si: you should make exactly these kinds of weapons. If you don't have quarters and socks, you are screwed. Similar kind of misunderstanding is between Te and Ti. Te: we could do this. Ti: that is dumb, it doesn't make sense. Te: this is suggestion for discussion, not ultimate solution. Give your suggestio for solution. At the end of discussion, I will take an action on anything, that is good enough.
At the end he was using the butter wrong. You’re supposed to swing it around over your head to charge up the power and then swing it forward to strike your enemy. Works every time, probably.
I'm a savior Se (ISTP) and what keeps me from wanting to control stuff is the fear of missing new information. The world is too big and rich not to explore it
Yeah dude its hilarious watching this, as an ESTP I can’t help but laugh at the dudes tactics, he would be dead in a second against any real situation with any of these methods, I appreciate how well thought out that is, wish I could plan like that, but yeah man that wouldn’t work 9/10 times.
I try to have an escape route off a plane, but I rarely remember to do it in a hotel room. I like Dave’s safety plan, down to bringing his own escape tools. I would be relieved to travel with someone like that. But please no practice drills on vacation in the middle of the night (something my dad would do!) lol
My main categories are friendships, romantic relationships, career, and self improvement/ discovery. If something doesn’t fit in one of these categories, it probably isn’t very important to me if that makes sense
The following may be a random Ne-ish out of the blue question tied to a perhaps not very good comparison, but I'm going to ask it anyway, just because I'm curious. While watching Dave's reaction to this threat response video, one of my favorite scenes in the first Jason Bourne movie came to mind. It's the one where he and the German woman (whose name I forget), to whom he's paid several thousand Euros from the mystery safe deposit box to drive him out of Paris, are sitting across from one another at a table in a diner located at some exit off of the Euro-Bahn, or whatever superhighway it is they've been driving (northeast?) on to Germany during a snowstorm. Bourne still has amnesia at this point. And he starts freaking out a bit because, as he informs the woman, since the moment they entered the restaurant, he has been scanning every inch of the place, along with each of the individuals inside and their movements, to engage in a constant threat assessment and development of contingent response plans. And he doesn't know why he's doing this or how he knows to do this. He does, however, by this point already know that he is capable, with just his hands and feet, and a disposable pen, of fending off a highly trained martial arts would-be assassin. So, my question is, which of Bourne's cognitive functions are most engaged at this point in the restaurant? Which ones is he actively using, and which ones might be causing him distress due to the gulf that exists between his apparent abilities and his lack of understanding of why he has them in the first place?
This is his advice in a crisis, you guys took what he was saying out of context. And he's a former seal, so he's probably ISTP and has learned to be prepared - it was his job. ruclips.net/video/0mratDYkj7U/видео.html
"It should work...." Yeah, I relate to that. I've learned, through much trial and error, that you have to test things out YOURSELF, and then plan a couple of backups, just in case (and YOU have to test those as well). I usually have to force myself to take the time and test something out.
I want to?!!? I already am, it's Got good and bad things being a Ni dom, but unfortunately people call me stupid for having my Se dead, people say I'm not aware of my world and that can't do stuff in real life 😭
I just realized after watching this video that I do all of these things, though I don't look at papers and mark down with pen - I actually DO this internally. I never realized before until watching this video that it was something that all people didn't do. See, you learn something new (about yourself) every day.
The data about quarters in sock working comes from the movie "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson. He used that technique in the movie so it must work in reality.
I'm building a business (actually 2) and drive a school bus in the morning for extra cash. Basically every day, with about 30 kids on my bus, I all of the sudden have no idea where I am or how I got there. It's not ideal and I can't stop myself from doing it. But man, I've come up with some killer ideas for the future.
The funny thing for me watching this is I've seen that exact video they're making fun of, and while I was watching it on my own I was going, "Hmmm, yeah, I can see how that works. Who doesn't look at the exits for the buildings they go into? Stack some books to stop bullets... yeah, that's fine." All the while completely ignoring how fucking bonkers it all actually is. So fuck me right? XD
@@JJReal-m7x Oh, I'm not saying he's completely wrong. Even re-watching the video again, I still agree with some of the things he says (The book thing is not so much, I'm not running to grab one if someone sticks a gun in my face). I just think it's bonkers because this is stuff that I do think about (looking at exits, imagining the worst case, thinking about improvised weapons), but I have none of the training this guys has. So my mind is saying, "Nah, you can do this." but the reality that I often ignore is like, "No, you fucking can't. You're not a Navy Seal." I still think about planning for the worst case. I just find it weird being aware of how my mind likes to make me think I have a chance at doing some of these things, while the reality of the situation is probably the complete opposite.
That’s not Ni that’s just not thinking things through. I don’t even think an Ni user would have gone to the lengths to try any of those things. I’m also decently sure that Ni users rarely even think about the scenarios this guy was describing. As an INFJ I know I’m not bringing a hammer with me everywhere I go because I might need to break my hotel window to escape in case of a fire. I’m not really sure why anyone would think that’s a reasonable thing to do...
I think the guy they showed in the beginning was more of an ISTJ planner. Si doms are the most likely to become obsessed with a sense of security, and are most of the times pretty organized too. As an INFJ something definitely felt off about his description of Ni.
Ne loves your Ni idea you've built up. It also likes that other guy's Ni framework over there. Well, this little part of it, if taken from a certain perspective. And look at how that connects to that other concept that woman on another channel mentioned a couple days ago...
As soon as the music queued at the end, it instantly wiped my train of thought. It's been sporadically popping up in my head as background elevator music.
the sock would of worked or even a can in a plastic bag i really doubt if i had a plastic bag with a red bull or something inside and swing it at someones head i doubt theyre going to catch it to be honest
I don't know if this has been mentioned by someone else, but... A sap is a blitz/ambush weapon, i.e. first-strike surprise offense, not a defense tool. As your video clips showed -- if you can see it coming you can duck or dodge pretty easily. Most martial arts styles break when put into real combat, especially against another style. This has been proven well by Mix-Martial-Arts matches. Someone who does not know that the attacker is supposed to move a certain way for the technique will do something else and it will fail.
Those times I told people that anything and everything can be used as a weapon depending on how you use it (after planning a perfect escape in my head). Now I understand why they looked at me weird.
I attended a few defense classes and was only a couple feet from my armed mugger. I ‘heroically’ begged for my life and let him take my car. I lived to write this comment. My acquaintance tried to run from a mugger, he’s a paraplegic now. In pain and helpless for the rest of his life.
To be fair, I’m ENFJ and do this as well. However, I’ll tailor my level of obsessive planning for vibe, people, social dynamics, event and mood, first.
Hand over my eyes. This reminds me of planning things when I was a kid and then when I tried it I found out it didn't work. Hey, but at least I used my Se to try it.
I suffer from Demon SE so badly to the point I bump into people in the cheese aisle at Costco ...not to mention the tripping and falling I do constantly because im thinking about how cheese looks like the moon after I just did a 5 MPH cart run over on your kid ... So now I try to plan each step... but than I forget and still fall LMAO
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Shanon: Hes thinking about another woman
Dave: FIRE ESCAPE
Omfg 😂
Lmfao
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
INFP here, I was once in a bank robbery and was totally unaware of it. It is one of my childrens' favourite stories to tell about me and my cluelessness.
You just made me doubt my INFP self typing I usually notice everything that happens around me but only if I am not daydreaming which I do a lot.
Have you daydreamt during the bank robbery?
that' s actually the funniest shit but i hope ur okay LMAO
Please make every leading function this way
YEES
yes !!
Yes
Agreed! WE Ne s already get a lot of crap, so why not! :-)
would be super helpful!
this reminds me of how you can stop the game and drink your health potion mid-battle in games - an INFJ
“Oh no wait! Pause! Let me just equip different armor, this one is about to break”
Also:
“Oh no wait! Pause! Let me just change the difficulty setting real quick.”
SKYRIIIIM
Dave shaking his head like there is no tomorrow XD
I knew you were an ENTP by just reading your comment (without looking at your youtube name)
As an Ne-dom, I like Ni-doms... I also like teasing them.
You have a strong ENTP vibe
😂😂😂😂😂 me too
But I don't have courage
Cuz their f* te,fi hurt my ne baby and fe harmony 😟
How? I need to learn who teasing me and how lol
@@anythingwilldo_833 If you don't know then they're not doing a very good job lol. And I'm just talking about friendly joking with someone, not anything mean-spirited. I like INxJs.
As an Ni-dom, I know that. 😑😂
"The INTJ's with their marital arts" - NAILED IT!
No, no. INTJs have MARTIAL arts. It's the INTP who has the MARITAL arts. Haha.
For some weird reason if you guys wouldn't have roasted the guy I would have totally accepted his advice as legit... 🤔😅
He just sounds so confident
@@secondcosmos7450 True. I guess that's the magic of blast first.
i still believe it tbh like you could make it work right?
@@JJReal-m7x Yeah. The point is not that these exact room plans wouldn't work ever. The point is that if there's an emergency, you're probably better off improvising without wasting time (Se) than "being prepared" theoretically, which some Ni dominant types can't get through their thick skulls.
@@someonerandom713 Then why do SEALs plan anything? They plan and prepare to go off script if need be.
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” Mike Tyson lol
Se dom finds all of this very interesting and amusing. No amount of planning strategizing will help you in the split second you have to react to unexpected situation if you can’t do the near instant calculation and reaction.
@Agent Smith You might be too slow or not, but then it's just chance and outcomes are not predictable. Which is why operations are planned down minute details and timing. Like in football, a busted play sometimes is saved by great instinct, but usually it's gonna be a sack, an incomplete, stuffed run, etc.
@Matt Bonneville
This is why Ni dominants would rather be COACHES than players. Because we really don't like putting ourselves in a situation we KNOW and UNDERSTAND would require fast and reflexive responses. And we like to have as much CONTROL as possible.
BUT if we have no choice in the matter, it is not about PREVENTING a disaster from happening but more of PREPARING ourselves mentally and emotionally. Yes, a Ni dominant will prepare to be surprised and make room in our minds of that possiblity. We really don't like handing ourselves to chance if we can help it. If something bad is gonna happen, it will regardless. What an Ni dominant could do (even masterfully) is devise escape routes, backup and contingency plans. Our Se inferior bodies might be slow to react but our lightning speed minds have already 10 backup plans ready.
@@savagebuck The other day while wiping down a counter, I bumped a wine glass near the edge with my elbow. I didn't see it, I just felt it. I turned my head and saw in my peripheral vision the glass tipping over the edge. With my free hand, I reached and snatched it out of the air by the base as it was heading down. That's Se in it's rawest form.
Ni would move the glass away from the edge beforehand, or better yet, move it to the sink since your going to wash it anyway.
But the good news was the glass was empty so no wine was wasted. 😁
EXACTLY!!!
But if that were to happen to us by any chance, God... depending on our auxiliary, we're going to punish ourselves feeling bad and overthinking about it. One thing is for sure, we'll never make that same mistake again. LOL. You guys have it easier.
Respectfully, that just sounds like the opposite problem. Disrespecting the planning. That's why the best improvisers are ISTPs. Because they've got Se and Ni in the middle.
"I've watched the DVDs of the INTJs with their martial arts, I've tried it on my friends, and got my ass kicked."
Words of wisdom from Dave.
The stuff this guy's talking about here *is* his reality. He's a retired navy seal.
If you pour salt into a tube sock instead of quarters and then swing that at the opponent's face, it doubles the effectiveness. Blunt force + burn the eyes. Don't poke holes in my theory Dave, or ill challenge you to a sock duel.
Shake pepper on the OUTSIDE of the sock, first. Triple effectiveness.
@@mjfanta1915 In this scenario, you, of course, already have the peppered sock ready on standby.at a location where you know you'll be able to grab hold of it instantly, without sneezing.
So according to you, Ni is strictly planning... lol. Ni is not strictly planning things. the definition of intuition is knowing without the process of reasoning. That literally has nothing to do with planning. Now you can make plans BASED off your intuition. But it's not something you can just have. Your obviously an ISTJ that thinks your an intj. That's what your looking everywhere when you go to a hotel and plan your escape. Ni would be like. There's a fire, then you would immediately know what to do without having to think about it. You're analysis of Ni is starkly confused with Si. And you've been doing it for 20 years. Ni isn't organized whatsoever. It is pattern spotting and in fact is the only function that You're not consciously aware of.
As a child I had a Ninja escape plan for every room I ever entered. It has to be easy to swing from the steel rafters across a gymnasium to kick out a window and jump out right? Right?
well, when you're a kid ideas and fantasies are always way more outlandish. it's really about if, when you get older and your brain is more fully developed, do these thoughts still constantly enter your mind
@@vicpariah3444 Y e s . DON’T LET IMAGINATION DIE!!!
Dah.. I’ll hand u my primary school swim board as well to help soften any glass shatter and also dive smoothly into the pool. Which I hope you are able to improvise as a dead man while I distract the threat and you run off safe ok?
(INTJ)
I remember as a kid there were these two trees and you could climb from one to the other by hanging on a branch, and I'd set up this elaborate trap with a twig held back by another branch that would hit them. Really stupid idea, total disrespect for the sensory just like this guy. But then some bully actually came climbing to us so I waited for him to get in range and tapped the branch with one finger and it smacked into him and he got surprised and fell down. He was too intimidated to try it again. I felt like a genius mastermind.
This actually really helped me understand how Ni works, especially in contrast to Ne and Si, which are the functions I have, particularly with how the subjectivity of Ni manifests in contrast to the more objective Ne.
It's a strange experience being an ENFP around Blast-first INTJs and even ENTJs. Most chaotic people automatically fall into their "just some random idiot: disregard" category but they tend to let ENFPs into the "someone who actually kinda knows something: pay attention" VIP room. (I see a similar thing between ENTPs and INFJs.) That's very weird to the ENFP because we don't actually think we KNOW anything. We just make observations, compare/contrast them, and extrapolate conclusions.
ENFPs are built to promote themselves as the authoritative opinion on everything lol
My sister is always putting value labels on everything "oh this is so ____" "I love this ____ it's the best" so people just go along with it.
Everyone else goes along with this shit but I've learned to not let my sister sell me on anything because at the end of the day it's all personal opinion.
this is really true
Because the xNTJs appreciate the Te of the ENFPs? 🤔
Ne dominants are very safe people to throw unfinished ideas at, because they will go along hard with any idea, any at all, and then forget about it within the next 5 minutes, so you don't have to worry about them calling you out when you inevitably change your mind 10 times over.
@@SimpleAmadeus As an ENTP I must say. I do go along with every idea, and then forget about it within the next 5 minutes. However, I call people out a lot. In fact I cannot stop checking whether the information people share is worth calling out.
This seems like high Si, converging disparate sensory objects. Not Ni. Ni is converging disparate abstract ideas.
The perfect example of thinking something will be one way in theory, and being proven wrong in the physical world was when they fired some frozen foam insulation at a leading edge wing mock up of a space shuttle in the post Columbia investigation. I heard that a lot of engineers or observers didn’t think it would break the wing. They all were shocked in silence when it did. They had found the root cause of the disaster. They didn’t think it would break because insulation fell off the tank on every launch, but had never caused a problem before. I liked when you said Try it! Try it!
Nah, guys, you're horrible 😂😂😂 This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time and I was both seriously amused and bemused 😂😂😂 My INFJy Ni wondered if that's how I really look through a non-Ni dominant perspective and then I asked myself whether that's really what's going on in my head without me knowing it runs so deep 😁
LMFAO DAVE HOW DO YOU FIND THESE CLIPS DAMMIT
😩 this reminds me of all of the times I’ve told people “the best hidden weapon in any room is the fire extinguishers”. But also compared to this guys Ni tricks it’s true. Wide spray radius. The spray will hit the eyes and lungs of the attacker giving you hopefully enough time to get away.
I feel like this could be something that actaully works yh but I dont know how to operate a fire exstinguisher and am not capable of figuring it out quick enough to fend off an attacker. Try reading a fire extinguishers intructions while being shot at hahah
xD that is sooo funny. And what would be an example of overworking Se?
I do these kind of things quite often, but it's probably just my paranoia from watching too many movies, not Ni, lol.
I had a whole potential zombie apocalypse escape plan prepared when I was a child, and I have my evacuation route from our house thought out in case someone breaks in or if there's a fire. last time we were at our aunt's place, I zoned out of the conversation and started thinking about how to hide and escape if someone came in to murder us.
And as far as this guy's advice goes, I was like "Wow, those ideas are so great, why are you saying there's absolutely no chance that they could work?" xD
I do that to.
With people breakin into my house
The end of the world (by water, by Fire, by Air -this last one is in my mind those days)
I heard there was a Volcano that was awake and then I was looking in the Net about the most dangerous volcanos and planing how could I scape. And I live in Brazil THERE IS NO VOLCANO.
But I do believe its cuz i'am a neurotic person. Since child, planing how to save my family from a gas explosion in the house...
I don't know, seems more like Ni in the third slot. This is what happens when ISTPs come out of their bunkers to "share" what they've been working on
Totally agree
I had the same thought... actually I was a little confused. As an Ni dom, I wouldn't even want to watch that guy's video--it is too preoccupied with details--I want to speculate on something with a little more scope to it--categorizing awareness is kind of fun, but not planning exits. Did they say that was the sign of an Ni dom--that they hate these kinds of videos 4:29? But the video was created by an unhealthy Ni dom? Was that their point? I couldn't quite tell... Maybe I just need more context. But I agree that I don't relate to this guy at all--and it is much easier for me to see him as an ISTP.
Agreed. I think understanding Ni doms is this channel’s biggest weak spot. They are very good at a lot of types, but this is a blind spot-over and over again.
Ella Baker, I want to believe that they are correct with everything, but I can’t help but notice this too. I keep having trouble typing myself because they push this notion that if you think you’re an Ni dom, you have to be an ExxP. While I can see myself in an ExxP light, it still doesn’t explain me. Also, what’s up with planning? does every Ni have to be a 24/7 planner? I thought that Ni was also abstraction, categorization, connections, patterns....
@@dorrian6462 Hello, if you have trouble typing yourself I recommend you try C.S. Joseph videos and his type grid. His work is very good and has greatly helped me understand cognitive functions, how they work and how they interact with one another. To understand Ni better you can also take a look at LiJo's video about that or AsuraPsych.
I'm an INTJ and I do like planning and control. I wouldn't say that I'm utterly obsessed with it but the lack of control or plan makes me quite anxious. I'm a big picture type of person, I hate details to the point that I always need to come out of my way and make extra efforts to actually pay attention to details, which can be draining if done too often. I do love new ideas and concepts but I'm approaching them in an organized manner. Ni is about connecting the dots, putting two and two together, finding patterns, ways to get you from point A to point B. It's almost like having a constant compass in your brain telling you where to go. Ni is also willpower, having the mental strength to pave your way towards your goal and get it.
I don't know if my explanations are clear but it's more or less what Ni is about, if you want more details you can check out the channels I recommended you. Hope this helps.
How seriously did Dave plan out a zombie apocalypse plan knowing how silly a zombie attack really is.
You guys can be pretty misleading and your arrogance in this matter irritates me but its still cool to watch your videos.
Yeah...when they are right, they are really on the mark. When they are wrong, they are waaaaaaay off. What’s funny is they can’t tell the difference.
Not sure but it seems like they miss a lot of depth.
Arrogance: can't agree more. Sounds so EXTJ. And their examples actually apply to themselves because they ignore the same "type" of people can be very different.
yes but i kinda see them kinda reacting it based on how they percieve it its pretty interesting to watch actually lol
Triggered
I never claimed to be a self defense expert.
This is the second or third time I’ve caught you guys criticizing something you don’t understand yourself.
Yeah I’ve watched a few of their videos now and I think they are really good at explaining Ne, but their explanations of Ni just totally miss the mark to me :/
@Tommy Hass not really sure what you mean. I never called myself an expert at any point lol. I'm just agreeing with this other person who also disagrees with them on this particular thing...
@Tommy Hass It's such a Te thing to get caught up on who's the expert... A lot of people just go by the internal logic of the thing. 😜
@Harry Dalton that's interesting, I was thinking the same thing
@Harry Dalton Hell no. INTP here with INTJ brother. This is him all the way. And he gets butthurt when I prove it to be impractical in real life situations that require fast thought and reaction. These things could come in handy if you actually do have those things and/or you have some time, but it's a last ditch effort at that point. I'd prepare better by having a more traditional type of weapon or accept the situation and just use my fists. It's totally Ni here, coming up with solutions that are essentially impractical because they constantly fail to consider the situation or may totally overlook or disregard important information or the fundamentals of getting to the solution or developing their innovations. Plus, it's also just a show, which means there are variables at play like show's production or prop line to take up some time to get through the show with some shitty content.
Sometimes I think you make things more confusing.
This example of someone over-utilising their Ni seems much more indicative of it being paired with Te/Fi... As the guy approaches the situation with a "logistic" over-preparation. Whereas Ni with Fe/Ti would seemingly approach it from a much more humanistic perspective... What people will I have to deal with, what will be my emotional drains/ social dangers, etc
Good point
@Harry Dalton No, you just THINK that he's an INTP. Dont try to present your theories as ultimate truths
@Harry Dalton Just because others don't do it, doesn't excuse you.
I need y’all to make more videos!! Y’all are so funny and I understand what y’all are talking about, unlike other videos I’ve watched.
Im trying to decide if I’m an INTJ or INFJ.
I uh… do this constantly actually, like just whatever I’m doing wherever I am… but I think, from all the checklisting and verifying, that I’m an istp… did I get it wrong or is it somehow possible that I’m just a jumper? I assigned myself aux Se for situational awareness but maybe I’m working so hard at it all the time because it’s not there, and I hammer Ni a lot, I’m a three-steps-ahead of you fear-machine but it made sense to me that that’s just because my Ni is not very good that I’m just getting the worst of it
Dave is the one who put this video's title, right? 😂
The roll of quarters in the sock is close to a military blanket party, which is a bar of soap in a sock. As Full Metal Jacket showed, and the end of this video confirmed, the target has to be held down. It's rumored that they don't leave much in the way of forensic evidence, because everything's going through multiple layers of fabric. Supposedly , the body doesn't develop welts or bruises, it just hurts like hell when there's any touch on a part of the body that's been hit. I've only heard first-hand about one from a guy admitting a group did it to someone in berthing who was consistently not up to cleanliness standards.
Can we get more rants, please? 😂👌
have you guys ever considered that this also looks like inferior Ne, as well as just anxiety disorders in general?
Bruh this video ruined my confidence on my super extensive plans for a potential fight with someone
Holy hell -- I can only imagine my own insane version of 'planning' that I put out all the time that people (aka I ) take seriously. 🤐
Think you could have been more nuanced. Ni is great if done correctly. If that guy worked for an entrepreneur with escape route planning, then great. Just laughing at him and his cognitive functions, and lack of Se dominance just seems a petty to me. And what is going on in the end of the video?
I need to see and recognize the wrong/disadvantage in overusing Ni in every single thing to be convinced to work it the other way.
He is probably not even a Ni Dom.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. this dude seems more like an ISXP
@@StormKillzone Totally ISTP vibes. His Se is good and he is very aware about his environment unlike me as an INFJ. I couldn't do what he did and I didn't like that they make a fun of him without even see his right type.
@@ege7417 Me neither to be honest. I think they add too much value to these cognitive function systems. There's so much more to a person so why would they only pinpoint the negative characteristics from some random person they don't even know? Anyways as an INFJ I was really annoyed by this video as well, I kind of feel the dude they showed looked more like an Si dom than an Ni dom though.
Couldn’t live like this, sounds like pain. I’d die lmao. Way easier to wing it.
"Different sensory, same plan" SO TRUE!
Isn't alternative to these scenarios to be unprepared? And statistics will be most likely in favor of using objects as weapons, in opposition to not. If you are in bad situation, you still probably lose a fight, but defending yourself with object decreases that probability. That is the whole reason, why we have weapons in the first place. And why term "improvised weapon" exists. And you cannot really choose, what things are at your disposal, if you suddenly find yourself in a fight.
Exactly. This dude's a retired Navy SEAL, so he's repurposing what he learned/used to apply to civilian life.
@Tommy Hass This guy *is* an actual professional.
@Tommy Hass If you want a discussion, then please refrain from personal attacks.
@Tommy Hass The guy in the video talks about having to defend yourself as civilian/tourist, when bad situation suddenly occurs. Any kind of preparation is better than nothing, because at least you have some guidlines to calm you down and act. Otherwise you will just go into shock from all the chaos, freeze, and not respond at all. That is why military/policamen/firefighters over-train. There might be misunderstanding of what is being said though. For Se it is: you should make some weapons. Here are some examples. Something hard, heavy, with a reach (Ni). For Si: you should make exactly these kinds of weapons. If you don't have quarters and socks, you are screwed.
Similar kind of misunderstanding is between Te and Ti. Te: we could do this. Ti: that is dumb, it doesn't make sense. Te: this is suggestion for discussion, not ultimate solution. Give your suggestio for solution. At the end of discussion, I will take an action on anything, that is good enough.
At the end he was using the butter wrong. You’re supposed to swing it around over your head to charge up the power and then swing it forward to strike your enemy. Works every time, probably.
I'm a savior Se (ISTP) and what keeps me from wanting to control stuff is the fear of missing new information.
The world is too big and rich not to explore it
the video at the end LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I’ve never laughed so hard 😂I’m guessing I don’t have lead Ni though because I fell into the trap of “oh I do that i pLaN”
I have a ladder going from my window to the backyard 🤦🏻♀️
Yeah dude its hilarious watching this, as an ESTP I can’t help but laugh at the dudes tactics, he would be dead in a second against any real situation with any of these methods, I appreciate how well thought out that is, wish I could plan like that, but yeah man that wouldn’t work 9/10 times.
This guy seems like an Intp. I see Se PoLR not inferior.
This is my oldest child! 🤦♀️😆
Probably my favorite video by you guys. So funny.
I try to have an escape route off a plane, but I rarely remember to do it in a hotel room. I like Dave’s safety plan, down to bringing his own escape tools. I would be relieved to travel with someone like that. But please no practice drills on vacation in the middle of the night (something my dad would do!) lol
My main categories are friendships, romantic relationships, career, and self improvement/ discovery. If something doesn’t fit in one of these categories, it probably isn’t very important to me if that makes sense
To be honest I'd be really surprised if someone tried to beat me up with a sock
The following may be a random Ne-ish out of the blue question tied to a perhaps not very good comparison, but I'm going to ask it anyway, just because I'm curious.
While watching Dave's reaction to this threat response video, one of my favorite scenes in the first Jason Bourne movie came to mind.
It's the one where he and the German woman (whose name I forget), to whom he's paid several thousand Euros from the mystery safe deposit box to drive him out of Paris, are sitting across from one another at a table in a diner located at some exit off of the Euro-Bahn, or whatever superhighway it is they've been driving (northeast?) on to Germany during a snowstorm. Bourne still has amnesia at this point.
And he starts freaking out a bit because, as he informs the woman, since the moment they entered the restaurant, he has been scanning every inch of the place, along with each of the individuals inside and their movements, to engage in a constant threat assessment and development of contingent response plans. And he doesn't know why he's doing this or how he knows to do this. He does, however, by this point already know that he is capable, with just his hands and feet, and a disposable pen, of fending off a highly trained martial arts would-be assassin.
So, my question is, which of Bourne's cognitive functions are most engaged at this point in the restaurant? Which ones is he actively using, and which ones might be causing him distress due to the gulf that exists between his apparent abilities and his lack of understanding of why he has them in the first place?
This is the diffrence between Jacko and McGyver.
I didn’t realise people did that
This is his advice in a crisis, you guys took what he was saying out of context. And he's a former seal, so he's probably ISTP and has learned to be prepared - it was his job.
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I was wondering why I liked that guy so much! 😂
"It should work...." Yeah, I relate to that. I've learned, through much trial and error, that you have to test things out YOURSELF, and then plan a couple of backups, just in case (and YOU have to test those as well). I usually have to force myself to take the time and test something out.
Defend yourself with the roll of quarters *that you definitely still have in 2021*
I want to?!!?
I already am, it's Got good and bad things being a Ni dom, but unfortunately people call me stupid for having my Se dead, people say I'm not aware of my world and that can't do stuff in real life 😭
I just realized after watching this video that I do all of these things, though I don't look at papers and mark down with pen - I actually DO this internally. I never realized before until watching this video that it was something that all people didn't do. See, you learn something new (about yourself) every day.
The data about quarters in sock working comes from the movie "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson. He used that technique in the movie so it must work in reality.
I guess tulip can also be considered potential weapon.
That intro was next level 👌🏻
I'm building a business (actually 2) and drive a school bus in the morning for extra cash. Basically every day, with about 30 kids on my bus, I all of the sudden have no idea where I am or how I got there. It's not ideal and I can't stop myself from doing it. But man, I've come up with some killer ideas for the future.
The funny thing for me watching this is I've seen that exact video they're making fun of, and while I was watching it on my own I was going, "Hmmm, yeah, I can see how that works. Who doesn't look at the exits for the buildings they go into? Stack some books to stop bullets... yeah, that's fine." All the while completely ignoring how fucking bonkers it all actually is.
So fuck me right? XD
@@JJReal-m7x Oh, I'm not saying he's completely wrong. Even re-watching the video again, I still agree with some of the things he says (The book thing is not so much, I'm not running to grab one if someone sticks a gun in my face). I just think it's bonkers because this is stuff that I do think about (looking at exits, imagining the worst case, thinking about improvised weapons), but I have none of the training this guys has. So my mind is saying, "Nah, you can do this." but the reality that I often ignore is like, "No, you fucking can't. You're not a Navy Seal."
I still think about planning for the worst case. I just find it weird being aware of how my mind likes to make me think I have a chance at doing some of these things, while the reality of the situation is probably the complete opposite.
I literally never plan but I'm probably in an unhealthy non Si state anyway.
That video was insane
That’s not Ni that’s just not thinking things through. I don’t even think an Ni user would have gone to the lengths to try any of those things. I’m also decently sure that Ni users rarely even think about the scenarios this guy was describing. As an INFJ I know I’m not bringing a hammer with me everywhere I go because I might need to break my hotel window to escape in case of a fire. I’m not really sure why anyone would think that’s a reasonable thing to do...
I think the guy they showed in the beginning was more of an ISTJ planner. Si doms are the most likely to become obsessed with a sense of security, and are most of the times pretty organized too. As an INFJ something definitely felt off about his description of Ni.
Storm's Killzone yeah I was thinking istj as well...
Ne loves your Ni idea you've built up. It also likes that other guy's Ni framework over there. Well, this little part of it, if taken from a certain perspective. And look at how that connects to that other concept that woman on another channel mentioned a couple days ago...
Wow! I'm interested in knowing which woman you mean!
McGruder! Also, I can't tell if I'm cringing or if I'm seriously worried that I actually do this. You guys have me questioning everything.
As soon as the music queued at the end, it instantly wiped my train of thought.
It's been sporadically popping up in my head as background elevator music.
Man. . . A notification dropped of this comment getting liked.
*looks at it*. . . queue music loop.
Too much awareness!
We don't *want* to be this way.
The two guys at the end BLEW MY MIND!!! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE! How could I not have thought of that!!!! 😂 I’m laughing at myself now… 😂
That was just hilarious! Made my quarantine just a little brighter :-)
the sock would of worked or even a can in a plastic bag i really doubt if i had a plastic bag with a red bull or something inside and swing it at someones head i doubt theyre going to catch it to be honest
Butter as an improvised SAP...yes
Would a ton of theory (or speculation!) coupled with an ounce (or less!) of practice describe Ni?
Yes
I don't know if this has been mentioned by someone else, but... A sap is a blitz/ambush weapon, i.e. first-strike surprise offense, not a defense tool. As your video clips showed -- if you can see it coming you can duck or dodge pretty easily. Most martial arts styles break when put into real combat, especially against another style. This has been proven well by Mix-Martial-Arts matches. Someone who does not know that the attacker is supposed to move a certain way for the technique will do something else and it will fail.
Lead Ni is not so bad when you've seen lead Ne on steroids
Haha panic is real
Those times I told people that anything and everything can be used as a weapon depending on how you use it (after planning a perfect escape in my head). Now I understand why they looked at me weird.
Room 101 in 1984 is your own type
Idk what you guys are talking about but I'm buying tiles and glue asap
A book saved my life one time. And it's Named the Hollow Between the Cravesses.
I attended a few defense classes and was only a couple feet from my armed mugger. I ‘heroically’ begged for my life and let him take my car. I lived to write this comment. My acquaintance tried to run from a mugger, he’s a paraplegic now. In pain and helpless for the rest of his life.
To be fair, a single book can stop smaller caliber rounds easily.
Cutest couple of 2021
Y'all really don't know who Clint Emerson is?
To be fair, I’m ENFJ and do this as well. However, I’ll tailor my level of obsessive planning for vibe, people, social dynamics, event and mood, first.
Man that final clip takes me out every time
This is like me always using my GPS to get to work because I can’t count on myself to be able to follow through with the same, real life route lol
Hand over my eyes. This reminds me of planning things when I was a kid and then when I tried it I found out it didn't work. Hey, but at least I used my Se to try it.
I feel so bad laughing at the roll of quarters part
My friends showed me this. And I'm supposed to accept that I'm like this abomination. Does anyone have solutions for coping
YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS 😂
I suffer from Demon SE so badly to the point I bump into people in the cheese aisle at Costco ...not to mention the tripping and falling I do constantly because im thinking about how cheese looks like the moon after I just did a 5 MPH cart run over on your kid ... So now I try to plan each step... but than I forget and still fall LMAO