Ham's Sin and its Terrifying Consequences| The Curse of HAM | Genesis 9 & 10 | Lesson 9

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  • @jamespatrick7923
    @jamespatrick7923 9 месяцев назад +27

    Just came across this page.
    Just mind blowing revelation.
    Glad in Christ Jesus i changed from the lineage of Ham to the lineage of the Righteous branch who is Jesus Christ.

  • @John14-06
    @John14-06 10 месяцев назад +40

    My new brother, Tom, I am an old geezer. But, the more I learn and enjoy, and discover in GOD's WORD, the hungrier I get for more. I have spent years and years in Bible Studies that just sailed through the first book of Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Mathew Chapter 1, Luke Chapter 3, and several others, including the last eight chapters of Ezekial. Now that I have an ear to hear, I pay special attention to Chapters like Genesis 10, Numbers, Leviticus & Job & Proverbs because I am interested, enlightened & blessed by a new understanding! You never know how the Holy Spirit will use you my brother!

    • @Shadoweknows76
      @Shadoweknows76 9 месяцев назад +1

      Since you are a truth seeker I have the best scripture for you ❤ 2nd Enoch 20:3. Our True Creator's Dwelling and Name. The god of the Bi Baal is lucifer 💯 facts. Added books to sealed testimony. Enoch is our True Messiah named. He is unchanging and never went back on his word.

    • @thacustomer7342
      @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад +2

      You have apparently not discovered the works of Dr. Peter S .Ruckman.

    • @thacustomer7342
      @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Shadoweknows76A true seeker meets a true sucker.

    • @thacustomer7342
      @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Shadoweknows76Dang Billy Carson, almost didn't recognize you, you ignoramus.

    • @JohnnieParker-u7b
      @JohnnieParker-u7b 9 месяцев назад

      Don't listen to this false teacher

  • @cindytiedemann2278
    @cindytiedemann2278 9 месяцев назад +85

    Read Leviticus 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife has uncovered his father's nakedness: ...
    The anwer is explained in Leviticus....YHVH tells us in HIS WORD. Amen

    • @ValerieLorna1
      @ValerieLorna1 9 месяцев назад +20

      Absolutely correct! ✔️💯
      The 2 brothers quickly help their father to get off the drink ( alcoholism is a terrible long illness) and Noah needs to actually understand the CRIME of what Ham and his mother have done, BEFORE the baby is born and hidden in plain site with Hams wife!
      The brothers cover their backs by NOT going along with HAM'S plan!!
      INCEST has brought in the CURSE of a corrupted seed of illnesses and disfigurement within this poor child: as we also see today in various religious groups within Asia!
      Dwarfism: Poison blood: Disfigurement of extra limbs are just a few known cases associated with incestual relations .....
      The Facts speak for themselves: the Godhead KALI is worshiped by the Hindu sect and is also shown to have blue/ blackish skin with many arms, and a long red tongue........wearing many flowers, similar to a funeral of the dead!
      Anyone known to have Blue blood within western society: is either royalty ( keeping themselves within a frame of who is safe to marry) or sadly a dead child!
      Ham's son Kush was known to start Child sacrifice and his son Nimrod shares HIS MOTHER and breeds TAMMUZ: who dies and is worshiped in a red cloak and hat.......(Santa claws) in plain sight!
      Blessing ❤ to everyone who understands the seriousness of what God is telling us!

    • @Shadoweknows76
      @Shadoweknows76 9 месяцев назад

      You just praised Satan. No matter how you translate his name it's still hail Zeus bright Mourning star lucifer, all stars are fallen angels ✡️. Amen is ra amenra. Hallelujah is helel bright Mourning star lucifer.
      2nd Enoch 20:3 is the True Most High Creator, Father of All life.

    • @Shadoweknows76
      @Shadoweknows76 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ValerieLorna1Santa claws represents lucifer also. The god of the Bi Baal is lucifer. Jesus has kid's as well. One of them is removed from the Bible. St Sarah. His son's name is Juda, I'm thinking after his twin brother who was also removed from books. Mary was born from diety family too.
      Mary was put aside from birth for that day.
      Our true Most High Creator would Never do that to anyone let alone a child.
      2nd Enoch 20:3 is his Dwelling and Name. He arrives in less than a year for judgment day. Enoch returned in 2017. He is our Righteous Judge on Judgement Day. Salvation is ours alone. "No man shall die for another man's wages". Nor a father for a son or a son for the father.

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​ There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he was he saw that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminate genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward.

    • @Tony_4_Jesus
      @Tony_4_Jesus 9 месяцев назад +15

      This is 100% the correct interpretation of the text. The first rule of good hermeneutics is Scripture interprets Scripture. The gentleman in this video, while I'm sure well intentioned, admits that he went outside of Scripture to "Jewish sages" to get his interpretation of the text. When we go outside of what the Bible says and rely on traditions of men above the Word of God we find ourselves falling into all kinds of error. Moses tells us what Ham's sin was, it was sleeping with his mother which clearly explains why Canaan was cursed, he was the product of that incestuous relationship.
      We also see later in Scripture in the book of 1 kings where Solomon's brother Adonijah tries to marry David's concubine Abishag and thereby usurp the throne through this treachery. Solomon had him put to death for this treason. This seems to be exactly what Ham was attempting to do in this situation, usurp Noah's authority as the king of the world. We see this struggle for power continue in Ham's descendant Nimrod.

  • @Coco762011
    @Coco762011 9 месяцев назад +22

    Blessings can be blocked by our very actions through our God-given free choice:
    when we choose to disobey God e.g. children of Israel in the wilderness
    when we choose to live carelessly e.g. Samson
    when we choose to sin against God e.g. David’s first son with Bathsheba
    when we choose to disbelieve God’s goodness and promises
    e.g. the ten spies sent
    when we choose to worship idols or dabble into the occult
    e.g. Ahab and the kings who turned their backs to God

    • @aaronlarsen7447
      @aaronlarsen7447 9 месяцев назад +10

      You laid that out very well, and it's true. However, personal ownership is not popular right now, which is the basic requirement for Christianity. If you have money, it's easier to pay a false prophet to forgive, rather than to change. That's why a lot of mafia and cartel types are religious. I think they have guilt. They are hooked on the money, and no one gets out. Osteen doesn't mention repentance. He won't even use the word. We have to repent all the time. It's humiliating. We lean toward sin in a slanted world. There is real forgiveness in Christ, but we have to own our deeds and become disciplined about God. It's the good fight. I wish I could hail Mary some things away. I trust that gives us strength to change, if we pursue Him. You drink, watch porn, eat too many twinkys, stand by the time clock for a minute to get an extra six minutes, you put your hand in the till. You kissed someone you should not have. You don't have to confess it to the world or the Pope. Bring it to Jesus, and take steps to change.

    • @Coco762011
      @Coco762011 9 месяцев назад +3

      Christ Jesus and Him alone is our intercessor, our High Priest. Not a minister, not a Pope, not the Hail Marys. To preach otherwise is a heresy, and a great dishonour to God the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and Christ Jesus our Messiah, Redeemer, and High Priest forever. (Hebrews 6:8-10, 9:24, 10:10; Romans 8:27)
      Christ’s death in our place, His burial and resurrection is a finished work that no one can add to or subtract from. His resurrection from the grave is our receipt that Christ has paid the heavy price of our redemption that is fully accepted by the just and righteous Judge.
      Any attempt to add to His finished work is religiosity and pretentiousness - no less a form of idol-worship of man’s prideful work to save himself. Galatians 3:10-15

    • @aaronlarsen7447
      @aaronlarsen7447 9 месяцев назад +1

      @Coco762011 I agree entirely. I should not have used the word "however" . Perhaps it appears I'm arguing. I was not advocating false religion at all. I was mocking it.

    • @lorilynne8841
      @lorilynne8841 9 месяцев назад

      So have appreciated this study!!

    • @lorilynne8841
      @lorilynne8841 9 месяцев назад

      Amen!!

  • @moseholman9930
    @moseholman9930 9 месяцев назад +7

    Ham wasn't cursed his son Canaan was cursed. People still get it mixed up. Ham was blessed along with his two brothers by God, so Noah couldn't curse Ham.

    • @jimmyjames7941
      @jimmyjames7941 Месяц назад

      Yes because he was the offspring of incest cf Lev 17,18

    • @PatriciaJackson-j3t
      @PatriciaJackson-j3t 26 дней назад

      If Noah was Chinese is Asia Shem European, Jephthah was Japan Russia Magog. Ham was Chinese. Caanities Hivities, ham Indian caana his son was mixed Ethiopian mixed Chinese. Hinduism.

  • @CoCoTheeStylist
    @CoCoTheeStylist 9 месяцев назад +13

    Praise the Lord for Jesus Christ!!! who is the new testament and through him all of ham lineage can and will be blessed the blood OF CHRIST removes all sin and curses, Christ became a curse for us all AMEN

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 9 месяцев назад

      Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
      Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
      Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
      Ham
      Ezekiel 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
      Ezekiel 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
      Ham was not cursed. He triumphs as an Hebrew Israelite in the end. Japheth's menstealer descendants [Gog and Magog] are destroyed forever!

  • @ZbigniewCegielski
    @ZbigniewCegielski 9 месяцев назад +11

    Even when Noah curse fell upon the Ham (Cannan) , today any decendants of Ham who recives Jesus is blessed and curse will go immediatly away, on other hand if people of Shem or Jaffet even got Noah blessing if did not recived Jesus are condemned, so today anybody of Shem, Ham,Jaffet if recived Jesus are all blessed if not are cursed.

    • @brasguven742
      @brasguven742 9 месяцев назад +2

      I agree! That is why I believe Christians who justify saying blacks are cursed and okay to be enslaved and not Christlike at all!
      God is eternal and know everything and each one of us since before we were born, so he has reasons for curse and blessings. But God sees those who go about in pride and feel superior. We are all equal with different experiences and it is only God to judge us. We should ALL learn to love the way Yeshua de Christ did.

    • @christopherrodarte9822
      @christopherrodarte9822 9 месяцев назад +2

      Ham wasn't cursed.

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 9 месяцев назад

      Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
      Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
      Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
      Ham
      Ezekiel 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
      Ezekiel 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
      Ham was not cursed. He triumphs as an Hebrew Israelite in the end. Japheth's menstealer descendants [Gog and Magog] are destroyed forever!

    • @nicolebrooks2876
      @nicolebrooks2876 8 месяцев назад +1

      @brasguven742 The thing is, Ham wasn't cursed. He had already been blessed. It was only one of Ham's children that was cursed. That was Canaan. Kush wasn't cursed, Put wasn't cursed, Mitzraim (Egypt) was not cursed, only Canaan was cursed. And even Canaan's descendants, if they repent, they are no longer under that same curse. I sure wish people would get this right. Good grief!

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 8 месяцев назад

      Canaan was cursed to be a servant to his brethren. His brothers names are mentioned, but aren't those named supposed to be his 'uncles'? This proves Ham's sin was incent, not homosexual rape as racists used to enslave Africans and steal land! Ham is the star of Genesis 9. There's a lot more that God revealed to me about why Ham is mentioned twice as being the father of Canaan. Ask any question on any Bible topic.@@nicolebrooks2876

  • @melessalee620
    @melessalee620 9 месяцев назад +19

    Thank you for not walking around Genesis 10. Your an excellent and thorough teacher. I was studying these by myself and now I am hearing things I sought out with😊 More added to it!

    • @DebraCollins-fq4jo
      @DebraCollins-fq4jo 9 месяцев назад

      Read Leviticus 18:8 & 20:11 to understand what is the nakedness of the father. If a kin lies with a man's wife, this is called the nakedness of the father. Sounds to me like Ham had sex with his mother while Noah was drunk with wine. Noah knew what his son had done because his wife, or sons told him. Canaan received a curse by Noah. Could Canaan have been the bastard son of Ham and his mother? 🤔

  • @GlennJudah
    @GlennJudah 10 месяцев назад +11

    I cannot wait for your words about the 10 tribes. Return! I find stories about this to be just fascinating!

    • @thacustomer7342
      @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад

      I like his Hercules stories the best.

  • @queenlioness7056
    @queenlioness7056 10 месяцев назад +8

    I love the in-depth study of God's word and Biblical history. Thank you.

  • @pauldaystar
    @pauldaystar 10 месяцев назад +23

    Please Consider The Original Hebrew Text, Ham Slep with his mom / That is What the Text Means /Uncovering his Father
    Also, Ruben Uncovered one of Yacob, his Dad's concubine

    • @hawkstertheginsengman1449
      @hawkstertheginsengman1449 9 месяцев назад +9

      Must always go to original text... Hence Ham couldn't be cursed so the fruit and posterity curse was set up on Canaan who was the fruit of the illicit union.

    • @hawkstertheginsengman1449
      @hawkstertheginsengman1449 9 месяцев назад +4

      And explains the state of our reality.The Bible can show the origin of many tragedies in our existence today

    • @richardbrown9760
      @richardbrown9760 9 месяцев назад

      Leviticus 20: 11

    • @markenge9348
      @markenge9348 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@YeshuaKingMessiahcheck out what God did when Solomon sinned and when Jeroboam sinned and when Baasha sinned and when Ahab sinned and when Jehu sinned and when Manasseh sinned. God brings the judgment after their days in the days of their descendants.

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@YeshuaKingMessiah There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he was he saw that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminate genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward.

  • @berylackermann8240
    @berylackermann8240 9 месяцев назад +3

    All SIN and have fallen short of the Glory of God and have received the Curse of Death, unless you repent in the NAMEOF YAHshua the Messiah.

  • @kingdt22
    @kingdt22 10 месяцев назад +15

    Getting The Facts Straight
    Scripture tells us that Noah had seventeen grandsons. And from their names we have a pretty good - if not perfect - idea which nations developed from which grandchildren. Four of those grandchildren were Ham’s four sons: Cush, Egypt, Put, and Canaan (Genesis 10:6). The Canaanites settled in the Middle East. They appear frequently in the Old Testament of the Bible. For the most part they have dissolved into other nations or died out. Egypt is even more obvious. For it is a nation that appears often in scripture and is still present today. There is no record of a biblical curse put on the descendants of Cush or the nations of Africa.
    In biblical Hebrew, the name ‘Cush’ seems to mean ‘Ethiopian’ or ‘blackness’. Black African nations seemingly developed from the offspring of Cush. But that is exactly where the so-called curse of Ham is misapplied. The curse never fell on Ham or on Cush. For whatever reason, not truly given in the text, it fell on Canaan. In Genesis 9:25 Noah pours out his anger, ‘Cursed be Canaan!’ There is no record of a biblical curse put on the descendants of Cush or the nations of Africa.

    • @jimlee6528
      @jimlee6528 9 месяцев назад +9

      This man’s assessment of world history is limited to contemporary history and too narrow in its conclusions! There are Ethiopians who are recognized by Israel as Jews… what do you do with them? His narrative is too simplistic and invalidates what the Bible says, the curse, for whatever reason was “specifically” directed to Caan period. To generalize it to the entire genetic line of Ham is intellectual dishonest and makes God appear capricious

    • @Sonizizi
      @Sonizizi 9 месяцев назад +7

      You very correct. This argument about the curse on Africans or blacks was used to justify slavery and colonialism. Very false. Ham was never cursed and Cush also.

    • @almakwami1825
      @almakwami1825 9 месяцев назад +4

      You are right, hence why we should always study to show ourselves approved You are who your father is.

    • @moms5at
      @moms5at 9 месяцев назад

      Thank You all for being thinkers! The Bible is clear, Canaan was cursed no one else. Canaan's curse does call into question Ham's parenting and response to his father's inebriated condition. Has anyone considered that Canaan may have been sexually inappropriate with his grandfather Noah? And the descendants of Canaan are the Canaanites who were possibly the founders of Sodom and Gomorrah? The Bible tells you what sins were prevalent in Sodom. Hmmm?

    • @nicolebrooks2876
      @nicolebrooks2876 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Finally someone who truly gets it.

  • @zonchanch5
    @zonchanch5 10 месяцев назад +5

    Something interesting i found when doing a study with my family recently on these verses was that the 4th year was considered "holy" and we questioned it because only a priest could have partaken on that 4th year. It was cool to have another item to tie the priesthood to - ultimately ending with our High priest from the line of Judah, in the order of Melchizedek! Thank you for your teaching and I pray that the Father would reveal Himself daily in your studies!

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 4 месяца назад

    Great exposition. So clear like no other teacher.

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching. Shalom!

  • @Baaxonda
    @Baaxonda 9 месяцев назад

    Absolutely fascinating and full of Light and Truth!! Toda rabah for this exegesis.

  • @Tsitsi414
    @Tsitsi414 9 месяцев назад +5

    Very insightful. Talking about curses, please teach about the Deuteronomy 28 curses that GOD Himself pronounced vs the Canaan curse pronounced by a human being.

  • @sum1has2
    @sum1has2 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think a present day and immediately evident reason having your child/lineage cursed instead of oneself is such a huge deterrent to sinning is this: Say you’re tempted to commit a crime (for whatever reason you’ve convinced yourself it’s okay to do), but if you knew your beloved children would be the ones whom the judge would sentence instead for your misdeeds, wouldn’t you be much less likely to commit the crime? Would Ham have still done this if he knew the outcome? Laws and rules prevent the negative impacts on society and families that sin and crime create. Thinking about the effects your behavior will have on your children has hopefully stopped many people from breaking the law, both God’s and man’s.

    • @BishopEddie5443
      @BishopEddie5443 9 месяцев назад

      Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
      Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
      Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
      Ham
      Ezekiel 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
      Ezekiel 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
      Ham was not cursed. He triumphs as an Hebrew Israelite in the end. Japheth's menstealer descendants [Gog and Magog] are destroyed forever!

    • @Want2cJesus
      @Want2cJesus 9 месяцев назад

      Yet, in the wilderness example of the Hebrews, the children 20 and younger were spared the curse placed on their parents who were never to enter the promised land and their carcasses fell during the 40 years of wandering.

  • @ARenewedmind
    @ARenewedmind 9 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you so much for taking on this Torah course. It is so important and quite frankly I am so sick of hearing of the "ten lost tribes" when in fact they are not lost. God knows who they are and where they are!
    They are only hidden from us at present but will be revealed at the "appointed time" when it pleases God Almighty.
    Your heading, I think is missed by many commenting here, namely that the sin is disrespect/dishonoring/slandering one's father. God regards rhat as a serious sin!

  • @charlesphillips5723
    @charlesphillips5723 2 месяца назад

    Jut one word! FANTASTIC!

  • @aaronlarsen7447
    @aaronlarsen7447 10 месяцев назад +9

    I find it likely that Ham violated his mother. It was likely his step mother. Noah was so old. It doesn't make since he only had 3 sons. These are just the ones mentioned. The others may have not made the cut. It had to be something curse worthy, and an act like that would definitely bring a curse.

    • @cindytiedemann2278
      @cindytiedemann2278 9 месяцев назад +6

      Leviticus 20:11 It is there from God's WORD. Amen

    • @markenge9348
      @markenge9348 9 месяцев назад +2

      Also in Leviticus 18:8. @cindytiedemann2278

    • @sergeshmash2171
      @sergeshmash2171 9 месяцев назад

      Agree

    • @zackzimmer7167
      @zackzimmer7167 9 месяцев назад +1

      His second wife with the same name, Namaah, was from Canaan.

    • @aaronlarsen7447
      @aaronlarsen7447 9 месяцев назад

      @@zackzimmer7167 who's second wife?

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 4 месяца назад

    "Honour your father and your mother that it may go well with you" Exodus 20:12, the fifth of the Ten Commandments so very necessary for God's favour.

  • @lenawagner6405
    @lenawagner6405 9 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤🥰🥰💖‼️Hope this warring will now come to an end. God bless all and we pray for peace.

  • @Yeshuamysavior1
    @Yeshuamysavior1 9 месяцев назад

    Outstanding similarities- I’m shocked. Such wonderful information. Thank you!

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  9 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful! Shalom!

  • @inasorensen4452
    @inasorensen4452 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this scripture !

  • @ephraimmenashe
    @ephraimmenashe 10 месяцев назад +7

    Noah did not curse Ham.
    Noah cursed Ham's son Canaan.
    Noah's son, Ham, exposed his FATHER'S NAKEDNESS, hence Shem and Japheth walking into their father's tent backwards in order to cover their FATHER'S NAKEDNESS.
    The instructions that we've received from the Torah states:
    4. You shall observe My judgments and keep My ordinances, to walk in them: I am the Lord your God.
    5. You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, which if a man does, he shall live by them: I am the Lord.
    6. 'None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord.
    7. The NAKEDNESS OF YOUR FATHER or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. SHE IS YOUR MOTHER; you shall not uncover her nakedness.
    8. The nakedness of your father's wife you shall not uncover; IT IS YOUR FATHER'S NAKEDNESS.
    (VaYikrah 18:4-8)
    (Leviticus 18:4-8)
    Peace and blessings.

    • @cindytiedemann2278
      @cindytiedemann2278 9 месяцев назад +6

      Leviticus 20:11 KJV Ham slept with his mother....that was his father's nakedness. Amen

  • @markenge9348
    @markenge9348 9 месяцев назад +6

    How did Noah "obviously" know what the results of drinking too much wine was? Was wine "obviously" around before the Bible first mentioned it?

    • @brentjohnson9210
      @brentjohnson9210 9 месяцев назад

      Who would drink wine to excess if u had never experienced it before? You would think it was poison. Spoiled.

    • @Want2cJesus
      @Want2cJesus 9 месяцев назад

      I'm sure the wicked antideluvians had perfected all the vices and Satan and his imps have influenced humans to do the same post flood.

  • @michaeld2716
    @michaeld2716 3 месяца назад

    Leviticus 20:11 regarding a father's nakedness.
    20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

  • @rianahayes84
    @rianahayes84 8 месяцев назад

    This is soo interesting! Thank you for this history lesson. Would it not be wonderful if children all over the world could learn this history? I am eagerly awaiting the Messiah"s coming, to fetch His bride. The 7th Millennial is going to be so exciting.

  • @mikemullen1413
    @mikemullen1413 9 месяцев назад

    This is very good.

  • @aaronchambers9888
    @aaronchambers9888 9 месяцев назад +5

    As far as Noah getting toasty you know he did just live through watching everything and everybody else, likely even his some of his kids and grandkids disapear beneath through the waves then he floated around on a boat for a year. Id probably have drank a little too!

  • @gwendolynkrupa8892
    @gwendolynkrupa8892 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @dehsa38
    @dehsa38 10 месяцев назад +5

    God knows all about "bad press".

  • @TLA-ml2lg
    @TLA-ml2lg 9 месяцев назад +10

    I believe Noah getting drunk was by accident as conditions changed after the flood because you never heard of drunkenness before the flood.

    • @Faithful_Watchman
      @Faithful_Watchman 9 месяцев назад

      Good observation. Also, even if Noah getting drunk wasn't an accident, scripture says sin is not imputed prior to the giving of the Law, the TC, which time Noah lived. (Rom. 5:13)

    • @metapolitikgedanken612
      @metapolitikgedanken612 9 месяцев назад

      Something I also thought. That something with regards to fermentation happened. Hence imputing the emergence of ethanol in water that contains types of sugar.
      Another theory I read on it was that Ham had sex with his mother. Or why is Canaan called "a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren." Genesis 9:25

    • @georgiakritikos4955
      @georgiakritikos4955 9 месяцев назад

      make fun of others, is no good!_ a curse domestic tied international, markets by products for lifestyle! & t00 get others involved is criminal!//>GO FIGURE _THE THEATER! 21st century

    • @georgiakritikos4955
      @georgiakritikos4955 9 месяцев назад

      excellente eXposure!

    • @joanclary3622
      @joanclary3622 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wasn't drunkenness part of why God sent the flood? ....as in the days of Noah?

  • @PYN111
    @PYN111 9 месяцев назад +1

    In Genesis chapter 3, God cursed the Serpent and God cursed the ground. Adam and Eve were not cursed, but instead reaped the consequences of their actions. The consequences of the knowledge they gained from the tree was sorrow in the world outside of Eden and death. Both of which are paradoxically blessings. Outside of Eden they can now have children, and a family. The most difficult and at the same time rewarding experience available to humans. God prepares and protects them with a coat HE, himself makes. Death is another blessing He provides to them… their chance to return to Him. And of course in Jesus’s sacrifice, He has provided every means of success in this world for eternal salvation. God’s plan for our salvation began in Eden.

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      Death is not a blessing🤦

  • @truepremise2053
    @truepremise2053 10 месяцев назад +3

    There are 7 influences to what causes the 7 Races to have the adaptive genetic features that they do:
    a. Genetic-Entropy cuz everything moves toward death
    b. Adapting To Temperature due to migration
    c. Estrogenic-Anabolic-Habits brought on by dynamic with female dominators [Seratonin is the estrogen based heirarchy hormone & so is melanin also being blood-carbon based]
    d. Diet because food-content controls regeneration access
    e. Visualization-Manifestation because as a man thinketh, so is he
    j. Because Conscience causes Curses
    f. Because God said so which is also a curse cuz when someone says something to you, it has an effect.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 9 месяцев назад

      There are 3 races. Mongoloid, negroid and caucasian.

  • @DavidFardenJr
    @DavidFardenJr 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for these teachings. I have been feeling something missing with my walk with God and that is proper Bible-Torah teachings. Thanks again.

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  10 месяцев назад +1

      We're so glad the teachings have been edifying for you. Shalom!

    • @ValerieLorna1
      @ValerieLorna1 9 месяцев назад

      ROMANS 16:17-18

  • @HarryMarsee-fw9ot
    @HarryMarsee-fw9ot 9 месяцев назад +3

    I think we need to cut Noah some slack here. He spent 120 years building the ark and everyone mocked him and laughed at him until the rain started the people cried out to Noah. Noah could not open the doors to the ark; because, God locked the doors, Noah could not unlock them.
    Don't you know he heard the screams of the people he knew as they drowned? Don't you the know they were begging and pleading with Noah to please open the door and let them in, if not them at least their children..
    I'm certain Noah had to get drunk to drown out the sounds of his friends, neighbors and extended family members begging for him to open the ark doors.
    Talk about PTSD here. No, I'll not chastise Noah for getting snot slinging drunk. I would have probably done the same thing.

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      So you're just making speculation

    • @HarryMarsee-fw9ot
      @HarryMarsee-fw9ot 7 месяцев назад

      @@craigime I am making DEDUCTIONS based upon what the Bible tells us. My first paragraph states what the Bible states. The second and third paragraphs are my deductions.

    • @HarryMarsee-fw9ot
      @HarryMarsee-fw9ot 7 месяцев назад

      @@craigime My first paragraph states information that is given in the Bible. My second and third paragraphs do state my DEDUCTIONS. My fourth paragraph states my opinion.

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      Where in the Bible does it say everyone mocked him and laughed at him or that people cried out to him? That is pure speculation. Likewise your second and third paragraphs are also mere speculation based upon your previous, baseless speculation

  • @zonchanch5
    @zonchanch5 10 месяцев назад +8

    I really appreciate your teaching. I would step out and challenge you on something (I have noticed in myself and my family that we have been working on recently) and that is not including "luck" and "misfortune" and "unfortunate" in my speech, as it has nothing to do with how we believe, but is ingrained in the way we have been taught to talk. Thank you for the content, as always!

    • @ValerieLorna1
      @ValerieLorna1 9 месяцев назад

      ROMANS 16:17-18
      COLOSSIANS CHAPTER 2:18
      Blessings in your eagerness to learn, but don't be fooled by this Pastor........
      PAUL told us WE must RUN the RACE by the RULES: and so please don't be fooled: but allow Christ to lead you into truth ❤
      Ham had an incestual relationship with his mother while NOAH became an Alcoholic....
      Shem and his brother Quickly covered their backs to get their father sober enough to SEE their mother was very pregnant, and to stop the pretence of including them in this crime by saying the child was of HAM'S wife...
      Think what kind of CURSE this has brought into our society!?
      Dwarfism: Poison blood: deformed limbs and many other forms of disabilities!
      Noah cannot put curses on people: but he obviously understood the ramifications of marrying a wife from the line of CAIN ( mixed seed from the SONS of Seth !)
      God can only bless this family if they stick to the RULES!!
      Hinduism religiously WORSHIP ithe KALI: A Blue/ black Godhead with a long red tongue.......and several arms covered in flowers and jewels: exactly like a funeral for a DEAD child!
      Canaan will suffer some form of disability in his lifetime, and that will get worse throughout that child's SEED........Sodom and Gomorrah were totally Exterminated.......
      No one has to guess, or even think ............incest becomes a DEAD SEED of very corrupted sick people!

    • @thacustomer7342
      @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, after the language is under control, and no more lottery tickets, stop watching Sci fi movies ( everyone takes place in a universe where the idea of a righteous God, sin & salvation is ludacris ) & most (all) movies so you can cut out having to hear the filth & listening to everyone on television/internet taking the Lord's name in vain, I'm thinking positive thinking would be the logical next step.
      Shoot maybe even throw together a 3 point sermon, you already have your 3 points, 2 positives and a negative, golly smiling Joel himself may even invite you to give a testimony at the pulpit of his megachurch. Who knows If the congregation fills up the offering barrels, he might not even charge you for your time.

    • @zonchanch5
      @zonchanch5 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@thacustomer7342 not sure what your goal of this comment was, perhaps we cannot avoid it? My family has not had a TV in 9 years. I keep away from the culture while living in it. I dont play certain video games anymore - have thrown away dozens of movies as well. I guess all I can say is for me and my house - will will serve the Lord in all things. I pray the same for you and for your family!

    • @zonchanch5
      @zonchanch5 9 месяцев назад

      @@thacustomer7342 also taking the Lords name in vane according to scripture is saying you represent Him and then living differently. "Frontlets on your forehead" - are you representing HIS name how he would desire and how he has asked? Could you and your family be called "righteous" by the Father (and not man)?

    • @NDCCMTX
      @NDCCMTX 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@thacustomer7342 My wife and I absolutely LOVE the premise of sci-fi. Stories taking place in another universe with different rules, physics, and pushing the limits of imagination!
      But that's one thing she and I abhor about sci-fi... The "different rules" often include an atheistic society hellbent on self-destruction with no real savior.

  • @pjfountaine7755
    @pjfountaine7755 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for clarifying the fact that the Bible shows fallen human beings at their worst, not to endorse the sins, moral failures and trespasses, but to show the cause and effect and the truth we are all fallible, make mistakes, and sometimes do things we regret . And some go beyond that and we need to understand the patterns. Some things were downright Criminal, in the eyes of God and often, in the courts of the time.

  • @AngieG-ville45
    @AngieG-ville45 9 месяцев назад +9

    4 minutes in, and I'm asking, where does the Bible say Noah did anything wrong? He stayed in his own tent. Even in the new Testament, Paul (while rebuking some church goers for their conduct during service) says, don't you have your own house to get drunk in?

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      When did Paul say it was OK to get drunk?

  • @JerryS-fy7gj
    @JerryS-fy7gj 9 месяцев назад

    What about Noah's sin of being inebriated in the first place? Shouldn't the curse have been null and void?

  • @MarkBrache
    @MarkBrache 10 месяцев назад +3

    There are just some things made known to us, we should not make known to others

    • @dvssayer5621
      @dvssayer5621 9 месяцев назад +1

      Why? Its in the bible God wanted us to know. People don't want to know this offensive sin. I told it at Bible study once, they didn't want to hear it either.

    • @MarkBrache
      @MarkBrache 9 месяцев назад

      @@dvssayer5621 OK ?

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      Like what?

    • @MarkBrache
      @MarkBrache 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@craigimetake Samson, just for one instance. To know God is to know his Word

  • @Kiregom
    @Kiregom Месяц назад +2

    Ham was not the one who was cursed, it was his son Canaan. It is important to state that Canaan is not the father of the black race or Africa like you stated, but that Ham is. Ham had other descendants other than the Canaanites i.e., Cush, Mizraim, Phut.

    • @billyblackwelliii1197
      @billyblackwelliii1197 27 дней назад

      It was important that you said that. I wish he had. There has been centuries of horror based the misinformation of this misinterpretation

  • @beatrixatthecchwclub5620
    @beatrixatthecchwclub5620 10 месяцев назад +6

    Hi Tom, I have really enjoyed your first bible class and am now listening to this one, I just have a little problem with two things you mentioned, perhaps you could clarify it for me. You said Jesus is the exact opposite of satan? Another comment made was we should be led by the goodness of our hearts, I am sure you meant led by the Holy Spirit as the word points out that our hearts are wicked above all things and we should not be led by our hearts alone.

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi there! Thank you for your questions. We ask that for Biblical questions you go through the contact form on our website TorahClass.com found here: torahclass.com/contact/ This ensures that your question is seen and makes it to the right person to answer it. Thank you!

  • @brasguven742
    @brasguven742 9 месяцев назад

    My understanding from the church I belong to is, Ham took Noah Priesthood garment which had been past down from Adam. Ham wanted to unrighteously be in charge similar to Nimrod wanting to go to heaven and take God’s place.
    Adam received the holy garments in the garden of Eden.

  • @seekerofgrace2058
    @seekerofgrace2058 9 месяцев назад

    Always wondered abt this bible passage!
    Faux pas = fauw pah
    Foopah= food pouch belly overhang lol thx for the momentary laugh ( & the great wisdom)!

  • @princessj2321
    @princessj2321 9 месяцев назад +1

    Noah cursed only one of Hams sons, which is Canaan.
    Ham had other sons who were Not cursed, and they are Cush, Mizraim and Put.

  • @dawidbrink3787
    @dawidbrink3787 9 месяцев назад +1

    The reason for Judah blessing was his SELF sacrifice for Benjamin his Father's beloved, in place of Joseph...

  • @dBhattDavid
    @dBhattDavid 9 месяцев назад

    Yes it is true God's pattern repeats. It is similar to what we see in nature of what is called fractal pattern

  • @senorbb2150
    @senorbb2150 9 месяцев назад +1

    There was a lot of time in a cramped ark and a stressful situation. My theory is there had developed bad blood twixt Noah and his son Ham.

  • @StuBrownNLP
    @StuBrownNLP 9 месяцев назад

    It is well known that Japheth was the oldest and Ham the youngest. Shem was always mentioned first because his line was the one that would produce the messiah. The statement "A servant of servants" should be considered as an extraordinary servant in the post-deluvian world. God knew that the new nations would have need of basic things like food, shelter, and clothing. Ham and his descendants developed the systems that caused all of Noah's descendants to be fruitful and to multiply. Mathematics, agriculture, animal husbandry and much more came from Ham. A drunken Noah could not curse that which God chose to bless.

  • @olgamartin5884
    @olgamartin5884 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yes he was blessed before Satan entered his mind to
    do the wrong thing. Children obey your Parents. He
    should cover his father's nakedness and not announced
    it. Don't you see the same thing happening in our world?
    You can be blessed and it turned into a curse based on
    your behavior towards your Parents and Elders in the
    wider Community. Don't you see it happening in our
    Schools, Churches places of business that's how your
    Blessings become a curse.
    Blessings 🙏🙏🙏🙏 means that anything you put
    your hands to will progress and not wither and dried
    up, people always want to help you and speak well
    about you because the blessings of God is on you.

    • @peteranderson210
      @peteranderson210 5 месяцев назад

      This is about incest, not immodesty. Search 'uncover thy father's nakedness' in Leviticus. And so Noah becamse drunk and could not stop Ham from sleeping with his mother and producing Canaan.

  • @FLDavis
    @FLDavis 24 дня назад

    Genesis 9: 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
    21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
    22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
    23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
    24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
    25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
    26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
    27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
    God had blessed Noah and his sons; Noah could not curse what God had blessed.
    Gen 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
    Gen 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
    The Bible says: Gen 9:18 And the (("SONS")) of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
    Three sons went on to Ark; FOUR SONS CAME OFF THE ARK The writer was telling the reader who the father of the forth son was!
    son H1121 Strong's numbers_ H&G Dictionary
    From H1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, ((including "GRANDSON")), subject, nation, quality or condition, etc.,
    Canaan was born during the flood and came off the Ark and was classed as the youngest son of Noah.
    Gen 9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what ((his younger son)) had done unto him.
    Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
    Ham was not Noah's youngest son! He was the second. Shem was the youngest of Noahs sons; Japheth was the elder;
    Gen 10:21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
    Follow the line of Canaan and you know Noah cursed the right person!
    Gen 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
    Gen 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
    Gen 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
    Gen 10:18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
    Gen 10:19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
    Looking at Exo 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
    The curse of Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan. One might see how Exo.34:7 followed Canaan's children to Sodom & Gomorrah,

  • @israelitenet
    @israelitenet 9 месяцев назад

    Are you going to tell us who the table of nations are today, as related to the original 70 nations?

  • @garyrodriguez8414
    @garyrodriguez8414 10 месяцев назад +2

    New viiewer, while patterns certainly have there place biblically, Adonai is far to coplex to out too much weight on our understanding of Him. When I am studying the old testsment it alwsys amazes me of the complxities of our human nature and how thru time Adonai works His will to accomplish His will in the earth realm.

  • @yorlandelgado8230
    @yorlandelgado8230 9 месяцев назад +5

    Wait so Noah cursed his son because he was hung over and mad that someone saw him naked?

    • @metapolitikgedanken612
      @metapolitikgedanken612 9 месяцев назад +6

      It sounds there is a little more to that story than just hang-over and being naked/ridiculed.

    • @peteranderson210
      @peteranderson210 5 месяцев назад +2

      Do a KJV search of 'uncovering thy father's nakeness'. It is explained in Leviticus and includes maternal incest.

    • @alma_1906
      @alma_1906 4 месяца назад

      If you study further you'll discover that it's maternal incest. Canaan was cursed bc it's the offspring of Ham and his mother which is Noah's wife. And that is something you should never do bc it dishonors the husband. Because it is explain lned that the body of a husband and wife is one holy body. So having sex with one is also seeing the naked body of the their partner. So Ham was shaming his father by sleeping with his wife and getting her pregnant.

  • @saraaalto2688
    @saraaalto2688 5 месяцев назад +1

    Death is the most horrifying curse on our world,I think, anyways.

  • @sandyseas8355
    @sandyseas8355 9 месяцев назад

    Genesis 5:4 states, "The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.

  • @titoadeniyi-aderoju375
    @titoadeniyi-aderoju375 9 месяцев назад

    As the bereaved Christian’s were commended for studying the word taught I too researched and found…. The story's original purpose may have been to justify the biblical subjection of the Canaanites to the Israelites,[4] or a land claim to a portion of New Kingdom of Egypt which ruled Canaan in the late bronze age.[5][6]
    In later centuries, the narrative was interpreted by some Jews, Christians and Muslims as an explanation for black skin, as well as a justification for enslavement of black people.[7][8] Similarly, some in the Latter Day Saint movement used the curse of Ham to prevent the ordination of black men to its priesthood.[9][10]
    Nevertheless, most Christians, and Jews now disagree with such interpretations, because in the biblical text, Ham himself is not cursed, and neither race nor skin color are ever mentioned….
    While the teaching may be accurate the subtle introduction of a picture with sons with 3 colour tones is definitely not in the bible and has been added by the teacher with their pictures of the African race. However everyone knows that Keenan also known as Canaan are actually Arabs

    • @titoadeniyi-aderoju375
      @titoadeniyi-aderoju375 9 месяцев назад +2

      If Canaan was Egyptian why did the the teacher use images of Africans instead of Egyptians ? Also it’s not true that Egypt (staying with the story and not diverting) never thrived ….. in fact it was to Egypt that many times the Israelites would go for succour …and even the romans never appeared to conquer Egypt but saw them as allies ….each continent has had a time to rule the world … once Egypt …Greece…Rome…Britain …America … it is best to teach what is clearly written in Gods word, what the word states without adding to it. It is also not true that the continent lacks natural resources in fact it has an a dunce of natural resources …God bless you for taking the time to study. focusing on what the word actually says is very important

  • @mccormyke
    @mccormyke 9 месяцев назад

    Ham did a whole lot more than laugh at his father's nakedness. We don't know (or need to know) exactly what it was. It was but simply laughing because his drunk father was naked & he laughed about it.

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      The Bible never said he laughed

  • @esimm595
    @esimm595 9 месяцев назад +1

    There’s a RUclipsr out there doing a pretty good job saying the curse is on Ham’s son, Canaan, who was the perpetrator of the crime.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 9 месяцев назад

      And someone said Ham raped his Mom & Canaan was the result of that illicit union.

    • @christopherrodarte9822
      @christopherrodarte9822 9 месяцев назад

      The scripture says that, not just a youtuber. The scripture doesn't say Ham was cursed.

    • @esimm595
      @esimm595 9 месяцев назад

      @@christopherrodarte9822 The "experts"" I've heard mention Ham as the perpetrator, not Canaan. They also assume the sin is that Ham saw his father naked but did not cover him. If you look at the Scripture as saying Canaan committed a crime against Noah, then Ham is showing evidence to his brothers of what his son Canaan had done. Ham isn't the one who sinned, but he is the father of Canaan.

  • @mariacarrera-ge1sr
    @mariacarrera-ge1sr 10 месяцев назад +3

    I have been blessed by this channel Tom. I'm new here, and I found it because it had just popped up on a friends RUclips recommendation. I think Torahclass is now reaching out to new audiences.

    • @TorahClass
      @TorahClass  10 месяцев назад +1

      That's so great to hear! Thanks for watching, shalom!

    • @ValerieLorna1
      @ValerieLorna1 9 месяцев назад

      ROMANS 16:17-18
      This Pastor is totally incorrect and in serious trouble!
      Please leave this site and not return until he corrects his situation.....
      Blessing your eagerness to learn in Christ: allow HIM to lead you in the pathway of truth....
      Paul said: RUN the RACE by the RULES.......
      Colossians chapter 2:18 will guide you on those rules ❤

  • @Mo2nurse
    @Mo2nurse 9 месяцев назад

    Did he just say Africa has a lack of resources. Interpretation is very powerful, one must always know motive

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      I think he means lack of access to the resources- as far as the general population is concerned

  • @SG-ib1en
    @SG-ib1en 9 месяцев назад

    You'll find where the scriptures talk about seeing someone's nakedness it's actually referring to 'seeing' that person's wife...... So on that basis, it then makes complete sense about the curse made 💁‍♂️

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      Doesn't apply here

  • @fredsimmons2793
    @fredsimmons2793 Месяц назад

    Michael Heiser thinks Ham had incest with Noah's wife,Hams own mother, and that Canaan was the offspring of that act.Hams intent was to take over as head of the line of Noah.Theres much precedent in scripture that confirms commiting this paticular act was used by many to secure and show this intent of establishing this position of dominance/athourity.Absalom did this to King David's concubine, as did many others in scripture.Ham did his act as a public statement,as Noah in return did his curse on Canaans line as a public statement.

  • @sallymcmurray949
    @sallymcmurray949 8 месяцев назад

    Question: Anyone can answer- Why was Yefets name brought into Shems line? It almost makes it sound that he was like a father- in-law to Eber or something. Why would he make that statement right there?
    I guess at the end of the day, If you are called and accept, then you are a child of God!

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      What are you talking about?

  • @Patriot218S
    @Patriot218S 9 месяцев назад

    The Curse Was Upon Canaan
    From a sermon by Elder J.C. Stanaland
    Genesis 9:21-27 (The sin that brought about the curse)
    Genesis 10:15-18 (Descendants of Canaan)
    Exodus 33:2 (Over and over again God mentions that the Israelites would drive out these people)
    Joshua 9:23-“Now therefore ye are cursed, and there shall none of you be freed from being bondmen, and hewers of wood and drawers of water for the house of my God.” (The Hivites had beguiled Joshua and his army)

    Joshua 10:8-“And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee.” (God is saying that He is the author of that curse and it has come to pass)
    The Hivites were descendants of Ham and Canaan. The curse would not come upon Ham or even the man Canaan but upon his descendants the Canaanites. The Canaanites were to be “a servant of servants” as they served Israel throughout history but Israel was under the rule of many nations throughout history. We see this truth today given the fact that Israel is still dependent on other nations to supply their military and economy (i.e. the United States and the United Kingdom). The curse was not on Ham, but Canaan. The curse was not implemented for many hundreds of years from Genesis 9:25 to the results of Joshua 10:8. The curse has nothing to do with the texture of someone’s hair or that blacks are inferior in any way because of a curse. As far as intermarriage the only stipulation that God has is that both are believers. We are not to be “unequally yoked together with unbelievers” (2nd Corinthians 6:14). Therefore there is no stipulation against blacks and whites marrying each other or any other mixture of ethnicities in marriage just as long as both are believers.

  • @benwilliams5236
    @benwilliams5236 9 месяцев назад +5

    Didn't Noah curse Cannan, not Ham?

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад

      Yes Noah cursed the baby. There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he saw was that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminated genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward. That is why God commanded the death of certain tribes and all their animals. Mixed contaminated genetics.

  • @hoffmanshaven
    @hoffmanshaven 14 дней назад

    I've always understood Ham had sex with his mother. For 30 years I've understood this. I cannot remember where I heard this but the phrase saw or knew his father's nakedness points to that. Considering the curse i have to believe that is what occured.

  • @ChrisMusante
    @ChrisMusante 10 месяцев назад

    We are taught through curses - the 'rod'. The evil is to be accepted along with the good - as Job pointed out. Evil and darkness are merely peace and light that have not been made and formed. Do the 'works'. Shalom.

  • @John14-06
    @John14-06 10 месяцев назад +1

    Chapter Ten was on target! It was so nice I had to watch it twice. I'll probably watch it more often than that. I LOVE RUclips!

  • @josephthomas4216
    @josephthomas4216 9 месяцев назад +3

    I noticed you over looked where the Ashkenazi come from (Gomer). So to say the people in Israel today are not the blood line shem.

  • @sandratjauw8709
    @sandratjauw8709 9 месяцев назад

    Very interesting Bible-study. Thank you so much & God bless you. 🙏🏻

  • @ernestbrown2271
    @ernestbrown2271 9 месяцев назад

    Leviticus 20:11 "And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
    This verse deals with the man that has sex with his father's wife which is uncovering his father's nakedness. Those caught in this act requires that both the man and his the woman be put to death. The first part where this act showed up in the bible was in Genesis 9:22 "And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without." Canaan was the child born out of that cursed act of "uncovering his father's nakedness"; between Ham, the son of Noah, and Noah's wife, Ham's Mother.

  • @kellybennett8011
    @kellybennett8011 9 месяцев назад

    God-inside is biased in love and judges no one. Therefore, sin doesn't exist.

  • @georgekoshy4656
    @georgekoshy4656 9 месяцев назад +1

    Pastor, you have missed the real reason why Canan was cursed in the incident !

  • @chrissyuy
    @chrissyuy 9 месяцев назад +1

    Leviticus 17:7 & 8 expresses the euphemism of uncovering a father’s nakedness in very clear terms.
    7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
    8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
    Canaan was the result of Ham sleeping with Naamah (Noah’s wife). Rabbinic and Muslim literature both hold this name for Noah’s wife in their respective traditions. This is why it spells out who the father of Canaan was, because who should’ve been the father, Noah, was not.
    Furthermore, with the pronounced curse upon Canaan, it refers to Canaan as serving his brothers, not his uncles. And then there’s the city called Naamah in the land of Canaan listed in the conquest of the Promised Land. Named after Noah’s wife and mother of Canaan (both the man and the land).
    To take your father’s wives/concubines was to take over the patriarchy. This can be seen in King David’s son Adonijah attempting to take over the kingdom and asks for David’s maidservant Abishag (who had slept with the king for him to stay warm in his old age). 1 Kings 1 & 2.

    • @heather7140
      @heather7140 7 месяцев назад

      You are correct.

    • @heather7140
      @heather7140 7 месяцев назад

      Ruban also saw the nakedness of his father.

  • @BishopEddie5443
    @BishopEddie5443 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
    Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    Ham
    Ezekiel 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
    Ezekiel 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
    Ham was not cursed. He triumphs as an Hebrew Israelite in the end. Japheth's menstealer descendants [Gog and Magog] are destroyed forever!

  • @pauldaystar
    @pauldaystar 10 месяцев назад +3

    This Interpretation is Not Correct in Original Hebrew Text

  • @millergre
    @millergre 9 месяцев назад +2

    The nakedness of their father refers to Noah's wife. Ham tried to usurp his fathers authority by raping his mother and Kanen was the child of incest. Now you know....

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад

      There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he saw was that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminated genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward. Therefore the command to kill entire tribes and even their animals--contaminated genetics.

    • @cpeace7884
      @cpeace7884 9 месяцев назад

      You're twisting Scripture and adding to it. If Ham would have laid with his mother/his father Noah's, wife - the Scripture would say it. BUT It does NOT say that. You are fabricating Scripture and you should edit and retract your comment due to the fear of the LORD.

    • @millergre
      @millergre 9 месяцев назад

      @cpeace7884 do your homework and don't assume. Talk to a professional Bible scholar and ask about the Hebrew used and where the language is used. Then ash about the genealogy and then tell me I am taking liberties with or adding to scripture.

  • @marshaliles5046
    @marshaliles5046 9 месяцев назад +1

    Cannon took the clothing of Adam and Eve that God made. He than passed them on to Nimrod

  • @filla72
    @filla72 9 месяцев назад +2

    The interpretation doesn't seem to be correct because the line of Ham was very successful during early civilizations, then eventually fell

  • @Kevin-sp7wp
    @Kevin-sp7wp 9 месяцев назад +1

    It was Hams son Canaan that was cursed, not Ham.
    The new Adam is Jesus Christ, not Noah, for giving life to all who would believe on Him as Lord and Saviour.

  • @mondo2417
    @mondo2417 9 месяцев назад +1

    The ships of Tarshish bringing the Jews back home, are they not the British sips of 1947?

  • @angelicamichelle1646
    @angelicamichelle1646 9 месяцев назад

    I'm pissed . How ugly to curse 1 a soul because of a f up committed by the cursed 2 cursing the bloodline no matter how innocent or how pure a life is led. 3 blessings to a bloodline no matter how wicked a life or action towards others

    • @craigime
      @craigime 7 месяцев назад

      You're pissed for no reason

  • @sergeshmash2171
    @sergeshmash2171 9 месяцев назад +3

    I would agree with many other comments. I doubt very much this is about Noah being unclothed but about Ham having sex with Noah's wife (Leviticus 18:7). This would explain the severity of the curse. Living in close proximity to others it is not farfetched to think seeing someone naked accidentally would not be infrequent. Lev 18:7 describes very clearly what the very phrase "the nakedness of your father" is. Could Canaan have been the son of Ham and Noah's wife?

    • @brentjohnson9210
      @brentjohnson9210 9 месяцев назад

      Ok so the other two brothers walking in backwards to cover Noah. What does that mean?

    • @kurtweiand7086
      @kurtweiand7086 9 месяцев назад

      This is more likely! I watched an hour teaching on this verse!

    • @sergeshmash2171
      @sergeshmash2171 9 месяцев назад

      @@brentjohnson9210 I'd say they went to cover Noah's uncovered nakedness...that is they went to cover his naked wife.

  • @itscommonsense3128
    @itscommonsense3128 9 месяцев назад

    I heard a theory that due to the atmospheric changes after flood(reduced oxygen ect) caused Noah to get drunk. Also I've wondered if grapes were the forbidden fruit...nazarites can't eat grapes, their skins or raisins when they take the vow

  • @danielerdman7543
    @danielerdman7543 9 месяцев назад

    Liars, cheaters, thieves, slanderers, etc. all flock together…
    Such is hell.
    The rest of us enjoy heaven without you.
    Just Saying…..

  • @judithham2320
    @judithham2320 9 месяцев назад

    What was Ham’s sin? And why was Canaan punished for it? Why curse the Child instead of the Father? I don’t get it.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 9 месяцев назад

      Ham had sex with Noah's wife. That's what uncovering your father's nakedness means. It's in leviticus. Noah cursed Canaan, not God, do I see no reason to believe Noah's curse stuck to an innocent.
      When noah talks about ham bring a servant , thats prophesying .

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад +1

      There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he saw was that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminated genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward.

  • @hennieloubser3692
    @hennieloubser3692 9 месяцев назад +1

    What is your answer on Ham's sin as historic books which you can see on the Web says Ham had sex with Noah's wife that's the reason he was cursed after he was receiving his blessing previously, and all his descendents mentioned from there.

  • @itscommonsense3128
    @itscommonsense3128 9 месяцев назад

    Because the verse says "noah knew what ham had done to him" some have theories that Ham may have did something with his mother? Seeing a man's nakedness can also mean seeing that man's wife's nakedness ... and for Noah to curse his grandson, could be because the son was a result of incest between ham/noahs wife.

  • @dBhattDavid
    @dBhattDavid 9 месяцев назад

    I think ships of Tarshish is meant in many places in bible. Ships builded in Tarshish. Not meant starting or destiny port.

  • @lindahoitt8276
    @lindahoitt8276 9 месяцев назад +2

    I believe that uncovering Noah's nakedness has to do with his grandson Canaan having sex with Noah's wife. I refer you to Leviticus chapter 18.

    • @cpeace7884
      @cpeace7884 9 месяцев назад

      You're twisting Scripture. If Ham would have laid with his mother/ his father, Noah's wife - the Scripture would say that.
      BUT It does NOT say that. You are fabricating to Scripture and you should edit to retract your comment if you fear the LORD'S warning.

  • @thacustomer7342
    @thacustomer7342 9 месяцев назад +2

    Adam's fall was because of his disobedience, not eating from the grape tree (vine).

  • @patricktilton5377
    @patricktilton5377 10 месяцев назад +3

    As others commenting here have stated, Ham's sin was to commit Incest with his own mother (who is unnamed in the Bible). That is what the Hebrew idiomatic expression means, to 'uncover a man's nakedness'. Canaan was the product of this Mother-with-Son incest, which is why Noah cursed CANAAN -- an innocent baby borne by his wife (he, Noah, being "one flesh" with her) -- rather than cursing his son Ham, who committed the sin.
    Compare this story with the aftermath of the destruction of Sodom, where Lot's wife perished (looking back at the destruction, disobeying the angels' warning). Lot headed towards a town called Zoar with his two daughters, but then was afraid of actually getting there, so he holed up in a cave. His daughters, mistakenly believing that they and their father were the sole survivors of a global catastrophe, conspired to get Lot drunk -- an echo of Noah's drunkenness -- and get him to beget children with them. Thus, they became pregnant through Father-with-Daughter incest, giving birth to Moab ["from father"] and Ben-Ammi ["son of my people"], the eponymous ancestors of the Moabites and Ammonites.
    The author(s) of these stories in GENESIS invented these bogus 'origin' stories of the Canaanites, Moabites, and Ammonites in order to justify their claim to the territories where those peoples lived. You can bet that the historical Canaanites, Moabites and Ammonites didn't believe they were all descended from incestuous unions. But it served the agenda of the Israelite propagandists to pretend that it was Incest which created those rival tribes whose territories they coveted, so as to provide a 'justification' for their awful treatment of those supposed 'descendants' of Canaan, Moab, and Ben-Ammi.

    • @enroypedley3536
      @enroypedley3536 10 месяцев назад

      This???

    • @patricktilton5377
      @patricktilton5377 10 месяцев назад

      @@enroypedley3536 Yes! The bogus story in GENESIS has it that Ham and his own (unnamed) mother committed Incest, with baby Canaan being the result. If Noah hadn't been drunk and passed out, then HE would have been the one to father her first post-Flood child, fulfilling God's commandment to be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the earth. Noah's wife was under God's commandment to have more babies, but her husband was passed-out drunk and unable to do the 'deed' . . . so she and her son Ham had sex. The text doesn't say that Ham raped her -- or that she invited her son into her bed willingly. The latter is the more probable case, though, since Ham afterwards goes out and tells his brothers Shem and Japheth that he had "uncovered his father's nakedness" -- i.e. that he had just had sex with their-and-his mother. Shem and Japheth went in backwards and covered that "nakedness" -- they covered up their mother's naked body. Noah himself wasn't naked: Noah's "nakedness" was his wife's nakedness, as the Hebrew idiomatic expression means. Women were the property of men back then -- they still are in certain backwards places even today. What Ham did with his mother was deemed a sin committed against his father, because Noah and his wife were considered "one flesh" -- as in the Adam & Eve story.

    • @patricktilton5377
      @patricktilton5377 9 месяцев назад

      @@YeshuaKingMessiah Who the hell are YOU to tell me to "be silent" and not to comment if I don't believe it"??? The worst problems our world faces stems from 'believers' who never question the beliefs they're indoctrinated into believing in the first place.

    • @patricktilton5377
      @patricktilton5377 9 месяцев назад

      @@YeshuaKingMessiah You can take your arrogance and stick it where the Sun don't shine, you fanatic. The Bible was written by flawed human beings -- and people have CHANGED what's in their respective bibles, as evidenced by the addition (or deletion) of Cainan in the genealogy from Shem to Abraham: the Hebrew Masoretic Text doesn't include any 'Cainan' as the son of Arpachshad and father of Shelah -- it has Arpachshad being the father of Shelah, no 'Cainan' as part of the bloodline . . . but the Greek translation (the Septuagint, or 'LXX') DOES include 'Cainan', and that's why the Greek gospel of LUKE includes Cainan in the genealogy of Jesus.
      That's just ONE example of how the Bible -- which 'bible, since there are at least 4 source texts which all differ from each other? -- is a flawed text that has been altered down the ages by people serving their own particular agendas. Only a fool would refuse to recognize this blatant fact.
      Compare Genesis chapter 11 in the King James Version (which used the Masoretic Text) with what's in the Septuagint version. Not only does the latter insert Cainan into the genealogy, between Arpachshad and Shelah, but it changes the number of years each patriarch was when he begat his heir/successor. I'm not the one here who needs to 'learn' something.

    • @lyndagatlor5736
      @lyndagatlor5736 9 месяцев назад

      There is also the theory that when Noah looked at the baby Kannan what he saw was that the baby had 6 fingers and 6 toes. What a disappointment to go through the world flood and all the death and destruction and to see the evidence of contaminated genetic material. The giants genes survived. Therefore the scripture that says that there were giants in the land before the flood; and after ward. Therefore the command to kill entire tribes and even their animals--contaminated genetics.

  • @anewsongpsalm333
    @anewsongpsalm333 10 месяцев назад +1

    The sign of Jonas. Heart, hear, ear, earth.
    "Owner of a lonely heart. (Much better than a), owner of a broken heart"...Yes
    Zech. 8:17 “And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.”
    Acts 10:15 “And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.”
    Luke 17:17 “And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?”
    Romans 11:5 “Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.”
    Blessings family...

  • @rochellelove3785
    @rochellelove3785 10 месяцев назад +40

    Ham couldn't receive a curse because God blessed Noah's 3 sons in Genesis 9:1.

    • @dorabarkley6335
      @dorabarkley6335 10 месяцев назад +9

      Noah cursed Jam’s son Canaan

    • @FlowerSofie
      @FlowerSofie 9 месяцев назад +2

      Ithere must be a reason for cursing Canaan because he was the youngest

    • @rochellelove3785
      @rochellelove3785 9 месяцев назад

      @FlowerSofie While I don't have proof, I think Canaan could possibly be the product of Ham and Noah's wife. His father's nakedness is sometimes interpreted as sex with the father's wife as in Levitical laws against it. Noah woke from hus drunkenness and knew what Ham did. Noah has no more records of having other sons and daughters with his wife even though he lives more years after that and was given the mandate to be fruitful and multiply. The first mention of Canaan is on the ark as Ham's son. It's in parenthesis. Many times in the Bible I've noticed questionable or scandalous details in parenthesis that scribes have you paying attention to.

    • @rianaduplooy4819
      @rianaduplooy4819 9 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@FlowerSofie some scholars believe that Canaan was conceived when Ham raped his own mother while Noah was drunk and so he is Noah' s grandson by his son and his own wife. No wonder then that Noah cursed them both.

    • @rianaduplooy4819
      @rianaduplooy4819 9 месяцев назад +5

      But Ham removed himself from under the blessing when he sinned.

  • @harryallen457
    @harryallen457 9 месяцев назад +1

    Best teaching on this subject I’ve ever heard. Great work. H

  • @pottersurrenderedclay
    @pottersurrenderedclay 9 месяцев назад

    If you read the scripture without bias and your emotional sensitivity, You are correct in Genesis 9:1-20 it lays out the general outline in a macro detail about Noah and his life soon after the flood. Noah, the father who Yahweh said was righteous before Him in the generations, cursed his son Ham and blessed his two other sons! It was Noah, the Father who cursed and blessed his sons. So whilst in Gen 9:1 it is a general statement that reads Yahweh blessed Noah and his sons and i can be pedantic and mention it does not actually read all the sons or mention which of the sons. In short Yahweh gave the authority to Noah as a FATHER to curse or bless his sons and it does not indicate anywhere that Yahweh changed that. Noah did not plan to curse his son Ham, but he had to repremand Ham as a consequence of his actions. I know this can be a sensitive issue for many, but to be aligned with Scripture, we have to read and study Yahwehs word without adding to it because we dont like what it says. It's His Word and not ours.

    • @judithham2320
      @judithham2320 9 месяцев назад

      But he didn’t curse Ham. He cursed Canaan.That is my question. Why did he curse the Child and not the Man?