Hi Pete, that’s a lovely blue, and a really nice finish, I see the chaps point being able to adjust the fan whilst spraying wheels I’m guess they do this almost simultaneously or in quick succession, interesting points though. Thanks for another interesting video Pete. Cheers.
Hi Steve, It's a lovely blue, isn't it? Yeah, he was saying he's adjusting on the go as he gets to the different parts of the wheel. I personally tend to do wheels in sections, so the thin parts first, then the wider parts second. it's not as if your material is going to have gone off before you complete the whole thing. Always each to their own, it is a really good gun apart from that and for every one that say they like the position of the adjusting knob I get 20 that don't, cheers mate, hope alls well 👍
Great video and explanations. I have the 4400 HVLP and didn’t realize the RP bodies were the same. I would love to have 2 guns in one, but I contacted my SATA rep and he said they were different. Other than parts fitting each other, could you point me to some spec sheets or data prior to me buying new nozzles.
Hi Mate, Sata say they are different. In fact, they used to tell people the threads were different on the tips of the HVLP and RP. They are not. I looked at the HVLP body and can see no differences apart from markings. Tips and caps are different, but by changing both, you should have an HVLP gun
Hi Jeffrey, it came out lovely, didn't it, there's a few small nibs near the filler cap but otherwise perfect. It was the first time cranking it up to 2.5 bar, and 2 bar is normally great for good results, but coupled to the MM2 clear, not a top quality clear but better than the cheaper one I normally use it worked brilliantly, although I do say it myself 😁, thanks mate 👍
Hi Pete, thanks for another upload mate I'm sure we all appreciate all the work you put into making these videos👌 The 4400B really laid the base down nice and smooth, the clearcoat looked amazing as well so it seems the gun liked the higher pressure plus there didn't seem to be any more overspray but it's hard to tell on a video anyway, I don't own any Sata mini guns so I can't comment on the fan control problem but I do have big hands so I recon I would have the same issue as you do🤔 Cheers Pete👏👍
Hi John, Thanks, mate 👍 , Yes, I think you would. It is unbelievably annoying when you close the fan accidentally as it can really bugger up a job. It's totally different to the full-size guns. You have them, so you know they aren't a problem, such a shame this one is as it's actually a really good gun and not as expensive as some these day's, cheers John 👍
It's a shame this is happening as like you say it's a good gun otherwise, I think your only option is to find a way to stiffen the knob a bit (and no I don't mean you need Viagra🤭) to make it harder to turn, if it was mine I think that is what I would do🤔 Note to self, do not mention "harder" of "stiffen" in the same sentence as knob 😊🤨🤣
Dirty talk, John 🤣😂😅🤣, I know people have put PTFE tape on the threads to stiffen it up a bit or to slightly damage the threads to offer more 0resistance, I didn't want to do either really, certainly, on the videos I've done with it the feedback is probably 10 to 1 agreeing with me as to it being a problem which does make you wonder why they don't take that on board 🤔
Some are just used to the side fan control, like on many guns, but I'm not a fan either. In my experience, the fan knob gets much less adjustment vs. pressure and fluid, thus it is danger of being accidentally moved during use. On the other hand, most guns will atomize a bit better with slightly higher pressure. Factory suggested pressures are mostly to adhere to regulations at the air cap in certain areas.
Hi buddy, I couldn't have put that better myself. In my experience, it's the least used control, especially if the items your spraying aren't particularly intricate. With regards to pressure, you are absolutely right, I always try to use the lowest I can to get the job done. Although this is a cracking finish, it would be a little too flat for many uses. I appreciate the comments as always. Cheers 👍
Hi buddy, it's just different, not necessarily better. The Sagola is made better, performance wise, they are more or less the same. The Sagola is a little faster, although there are many more tip sizes available for the Sata
Hi Andrew, yes, they are quite different. really , the ANI is less refined in its delivery , relying on pressure far more. However, it's perfectly possible to get the same results with the ANI. It's just a different way it goes about it , cheers mate 👍
Hi Damen, what did you get? , the 4400?, they are good gun's, hopefully you won't find the fan controller in the way of your thumb Be interesting to hear what you think when you start using it. Cheers, buddy 👍
I got 1.3 rp and 1.4 hvlp .it's currently broke right now I tried drilling out the 1.3 to 1.4 and it ruined it it want even spray but got 1.4 on the way hvlp I'm going to put 1.4 on rp even tho sata don't make 1.4 rp .I want a little bit bigger fan .always can adjust fluid coming out with fluid knob but you have to have some new parts to make it bigger
Are you talking about geometry of the hvlp air horns being a ledge .I read that hvlp is like 4 cfm and the rp is 7 something cfm .but it's 36 psi on the rp and 29 on hvlp
Thanks, Ray. I do virtually all paint the same, so finish with 500g dry on a DA sander. If there's painted decals, it may be 400g just to give the paint some grip when you remove the tape. Otherwise, as I say, 500g
@@peteshobbies5383 , awesome, thank you!!! I (and I’m sure many other folks agree) believe you have the best spray gun review and painting techniques on RUclips. My goto for gun and use advice. Your earlier video’s led me to my DeVilbiss ProLite full-sized and ProLite-S guns, which I will always be grateful of buying, thanks solely to you and your channel!
You can't go wrong with either of those, mate, very good guns so versatile, especially the Gti Pro Lite with all its range of caps and tips. I recently got the HV30 cap again, I had one before but sold it about 4 years ago, I just couldn't run it for any length of time as my compressor wasn't big enough. I have a much bigger setup now, so it can power the HV30 ok, and I've been really pleased with it. It does use a lot of air, though, but it goes to show how versatile that gun is
Hi Pete, spray gun is Sata minijet 3000 B HVLP with 1.2 nozzle. Would you like to tell us base and clear coat setting? In the video I saw that you clear coat setting fluid : full open, how many times do I have to turn that knob for full open thanks for your time
Hi buddy, When I say fully open, it means the fluid needle can not go back anymore when you pull the trigger, so if you pull the trigger in, adjust the fluid control at the back of the needle anticlockwise until the needle won't go back anymore as your pulling the trigger, that's full fluid. As for basecoat setting, it really does depend on a lot of things, I would start around 1 1/2 turns out on the fluid, so turn the fluid needle all the way in till it stops, then back it off 1 1/2 turns. Try that and turn it out if needed, depending on what you are seeing. I hope that helps 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you very much for detailed and fast information, what is your advice for pressure for sata minijet 3000 hvlp gun, 2 bar or more?
@panzehir8097 Normally, HVLP would be a little less than that because HVLP is mostly used for base coats, I would try 1.8 bar for base coats and around 2.2 for clear coat, normally you would keep a HVLP set up a little closer to the work, so around 125mm and adjust if necessary
Hi Mariusz, it would depend on air supply and prices. The Sagola is good but uses lots of air for a mini gun and in some places is more expensive than the Sata. I think as an all-rounder, the Sata would be my choice as long as the fan control doesn't annoy you
I have a sata 1.0 SP (spot repair) 4400 hvlp minijet. And its the best mini gun for perfect finishes, it atomizes perfectly and lays down dead flat finishes especialy on wheels, mirror, tanks, motorcile parts For sata minijet guns the best choice îs the smaller sizenozlle and hvlp, You can aplly easy clear coat and basecoat
Yes i prefer Rp mostly on the other sata guns( 5000,x5500 etc) I forgot to mențion that the fan control buton isnt an issue for me only becouse am used with sata guns and keep my finger away (natural) from The control nob
Sata have always (as far as I can remember) had a great spray pattern , a slight work around is putting some masking tape over the fan knob (although it makes it more annoying to adhust the fan) ... but painting with both left and right hands makes it absolutely atrocious to use any sata! .
Hi Andrew, A few people in the pasted have said they do a similar thing. Some put PTFE tape on the adjuster threads to stiffen it up a bit. I'm slowly, and it is slowly, liking this gun more and more, particularly with all the tip sizes available for it, and in today's market, it's not as expensive as some, cheers mate 👍
Eu tenho uma satajet E original sata bico 1.3 comprada a 9 anos de um distribuidor com manual tudo , acho que era um protótipo nao consigo informação nenhuma o manual so diz o basico como todo manual sata , acho que tenho uma obra rara,😂😂😂 e o cara que me vendeu era o importador exclusivo sata do pais que eu vivo, ele faleceu já então não tenho como descobrir , talvez a sata saiba informar .
@@peteshobbies5383 acabei achando um manual da sata antigo e os dados são iguais em tudo até as peças é uma SATAJET MC - B RP 1.3 mas a SATA colocou como uma nova versão SATAJET E toda polida na época talvez tentando entrar no mercado aqui na época 😂😂😂😂
Hi Pete, that’s a lovely blue, and a really nice finish, I see the chaps point being able to adjust the fan whilst spraying wheels I’m guess they do this almost simultaneously or in quick succession, interesting points though. Thanks for another interesting video Pete. Cheers.
Hi Steve, It's a lovely blue, isn't it? Yeah, he was saying he's adjusting on the go as he gets to the different parts of the wheel.
I personally tend to do wheels in sections, so the thin parts first, then the wider parts second. it's not as if your material is going to have gone off before you complete the whole thing.
Always each to their own, it is a really good gun apart from that and for every one that say they like the position of the adjusting knob I get 20 that don't, cheers mate, hope alls well 👍
Great video and explanations. I have the 4400 HVLP and didn’t realize the RP bodies were the same. I would love to have 2 guns in one, but I contacted my SATA rep and he said they were different. Other than parts fitting each other, could you point me to some spec sheets or data prior to me buying new nozzles.
Hi Mate, Sata say they are different. In fact, they used to tell people the threads were different on the tips of the HVLP and RP. They are not.
I looked at the HVLP body and can see no differences apart from markings. Tips and caps are different, but by changing both, you should have an HVLP gun
@@peteshobbies5383, thanks for the reply. Buying a 1.3 RP nozzle is way cheaper than a whole new RP gun.
A tip set is normally about half the price, depending on where you are
Sata is a great spray gun for base, high volume low pressure.
Hi James, I have both HVLP and RP setups, and they can both do most things, but basecoat is normally better through the HVLP and the RP for clearcoat
Allways good to look back and try again. I must do that more offten too. Just a question. Is it a tank or a mirror?
Hi Jeffrey, it came out lovely, didn't it, there's a few small nibs near the filler cap but otherwise perfect.
It was the first time cranking it up to 2.5 bar, and 2 bar is normally great for good results, but coupled to the MM2 clear, not a top quality clear but better than the cheaper one I normally use it worked brilliantly, although I do say it myself 😁, thanks mate 👍
Hi Pete, thanks for another upload mate I'm sure we all appreciate all the work you put into making these videos👌
The 4400B really laid the base down nice and smooth, the clearcoat looked amazing as well so it seems the gun liked the higher pressure plus there didn't seem to be any more overspray but it's hard to tell on a video anyway, I don't own any Sata mini guns so I can't comment on the fan control problem but I do have big hands so I recon I would have the same issue as you do🤔
Cheers Pete👏👍
Hi John, Thanks, mate 👍 , Yes, I think you would. It is unbelievably annoying when you close the fan accidentally as it can really bugger up a job.
It's totally different to the full-size guns. You have them, so you know they aren't a problem, such a shame this one is as it's actually a really good gun and not as expensive as some these day's, cheers John 👍
It's a shame this is happening as like you say it's a good gun otherwise, I think your only option is to find a way to stiffen the knob a bit (and no I don't mean you need Viagra🤭) to make it harder to turn, if it was mine I think that is what I would do🤔
Note to self, do not mention "harder" of "stiffen" in the same sentence as knob 😊🤨🤣
Dirty talk, John 🤣😂😅🤣, I know people have put PTFE tape on the threads to stiffen it up a bit or to slightly damage the threads to offer more 0resistance, I didn't want to do either really, certainly, on the videos I've done with it the feedback is probably 10 to 1 agreeing with me as to it being a problem which does make you wonder why they don't take that on board 🤔
Some are just used to the side fan control, like on many guns, but I'm not a fan either. In my experience, the fan knob gets much less adjustment vs. pressure and fluid, thus it is danger of being accidentally moved during use. On the other hand, most guns will atomize a bit better with slightly higher pressure. Factory suggested pressures are mostly to adhere to regulations at the air cap in certain areas.
Hi buddy, I couldn't have put that better myself. In my experience, it's the least used control, especially if the items your spraying aren't particularly intricate.
With regards to pressure, you are absolutely right, I always try to use the lowest I can to get the job done. Although this is a cracking finish, it would be a little too flat for many uses. I appreciate the comments as always. Cheers 👍
Hallo pak Pete...apakah spraygun ini bisa disamakan dengan sagola xtreme mini epa? Atau lebih bagus dari sagola xtreme mini epa?
Hi buddy, it's just different, not necessarily better. The Sagola is made better, performance wise, they are more or less the same. The Sagola is a little faster, although there are many more tip sizes available for the Sata
@@peteshobbies5383 terimakasih pak Pete informasinya 🙏🙏
@rudinew4412 You're welcome, buddy 👍
Nice video and gun that pete I wonder how it compares with the Ani 160Q I wonder if there's a difference mate
Hi Andrew, yes, they are quite different. really , the ANI is less refined in its delivery , relying on pressure far more. However, it's perfectly possible to get the same results with the ANI. It's just a different way it goes about it , cheers mate 👍
I'm no expert painter but I got a sata jet looking forward to using it but that looks like best clear I seen on RUclips
Hi Damen, what did you get? , the 4400?, they are good gun's, hopefully you won't find the fan controller in the way of your thumb
Be interesting to hear what you think when you start using it. Cheers, buddy 👍
I got 1.3 rp and 1.4 hvlp .it's currently broke right now I tried drilling out the 1.3 to 1.4 and it ruined it it want even spray but got 1.4 on the way hvlp I'm going to put 1.4 on rp even tho sata don't make 1.4 rp .I want a little bit bigger fan .always can adjust fluid coming out with fluid knob but you have to have some new parts to make it bigger
The HVLP tip is slightly different in where the air holes exit. If I remember correctly, there is more of a ledge on the HVLP
Are you talking about geometry of the hvlp air horns being a ledge .I read that hvlp is like 4 cfm and the rp is 7 something cfm .but it's 36 psi on the rp and 29 on hvlp
Also do you know the clear coat used
Great video and explanation as usual for for continued video series!!! What grit do you typically sand these tanks?
Thanks, Ray. I do virtually all paint the same, so finish with 500g dry on a DA sander. If there's painted decals, it may be 400g just to give the paint some grip when you remove the tape. Otherwise, as I say, 500g
@@peteshobbies5383 , awesome, thank you!!! I (and I’m sure many other folks agree) believe you have the best spray gun review and painting techniques on RUclips. My goto for gun and use advice.
Your earlier video’s led me to my DeVilbiss ProLite full-sized and ProLite-S guns, which I will always be grateful of buying, thanks solely to you and your channel!
You can't go wrong with either of those, mate, very good guns so versatile, especially the Gti Pro Lite with all its range of caps and tips.
I recently got the HV30 cap again, I had one before but sold it about 4 years ago, I just couldn't run it for any length of time as my compressor wasn't big enough.
I have a much bigger setup now, so it can power the HV30 ok, and I've been really pleased with it. It does use a lot of air, though, but it goes to show how versatile that gun is
Beautiful colour
Hi Shaq, it really is. Isn't it, cheers, mate 👍
Hi Pete, spray gun is Sata minijet 3000 B HVLP with 1.2 nozzle. Would you like to tell us base and clear coat setting?
In the video I saw that you clear coat setting fluid : full open, how many times do I have to turn that knob for full open
thanks for your time
Hi buddy, When I say fully open, it means the fluid needle can not go back anymore when you pull the trigger, so if you pull the trigger in, adjust the fluid control at the back of the needle anticlockwise until the needle won't go back anymore as your pulling the trigger, that's full fluid.
As for basecoat setting, it really does depend on a lot of things, I would start around 1 1/2 turns out on the fluid, so turn the fluid needle all the way in till it stops, then back it off 1 1/2 turns.
Try that and turn it out if needed, depending on what you are seeing. I hope that helps 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you very much for detailed and fast information,
what is your advice for pressure for sata minijet 3000 hvlp gun, 2 bar or more?
@panzehir8097 Normally, HVLP would be a little less than that because HVLP is mostly used for base coats, I would try 1.8 bar for base coats and around 2.2 for clear coat, normally you would keep a HVLP set up a little closer to the work, so around 125mm and adjust if necessary
@@peteshobbies5383 hello Pete,
you are a great guy, you give golden tips and respond very quickly, thanks again for your time 🍻
Your most welcome, mate 👍
Like you just cant get on with that fan adj on the side but that's just me !! Thanks bro
Cheers Dean, hope alls well with you 👍
if you had to choose sata mini jet and sagol mini xtreme for motorcycle elements, which one would you recommend
Hi Mariusz, it would depend on air supply and prices. The Sagola is good but uses lots of air for a mini gun and in some places is more expensive than the Sata.
I think as an all-rounder, the Sata would be my choice as long as the fan control doesn't annoy you
I have a sata 1.0 SP (spot repair) 4400 hvlp minijet. And its the best mini gun for perfect finishes, it atomizes perfectly and lays down dead flat finishes especialy on wheels, mirror, tanks, motorcile parts
For sata minijet guns the best choice îs the smaller sizenozlle and hvlp, You can aplly easy clear coat and basecoat
Hi , yes, I have 1.0 and 1.2 in HVLP as well, although I prefer RP most of the time
Yes i prefer Rp mostly on the other sata guns( 5000,x5500 etc)
I forgot to mențion that the fan control buton isnt an issue for me only becouse am used with sata guns and keep my finger away (natural) from The control nob
Yes, that's what I started to do, I call it the Sata grip 😁
Sata grip"😂 nice one!!!
Sata have always (as far as I can remember) had a great spray pattern , a slight work around is putting some masking tape over the fan knob (although it makes it more annoying to adhust the fan) ... but painting with both left and right hands makes it absolutely atrocious to use any sata! .
Hi Andrew, A few people in the pasted have said they do a similar thing. Some put PTFE tape on the adjuster threads to stiffen it up a bit.
I'm slowly, and it is slowly, liking this gun more and more, particularly with all the tip sizes available for it, and in today's market, it's not as expensive as some, cheers mate 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 yeah , there's nothing wrong with the way they spray! .
Eu tenho uma satajet E original sata bico 1.3 comprada a 9 anos de um distribuidor com manual tudo , acho que era um protótipo nao consigo informação nenhuma o manual so diz o basico como todo manual sata , acho que tenho uma obra rara,😂😂😂 e o cara que me vendeu era o importador exclusivo sata do pais que eu vivo, ele faleceu já então não tenho como descobrir , talvez a sata saiba informar .
Hola amigo, valdría la pena contactar a Sata en Alemania para ver si pueden ayudar.
@@peteshobbies5383 acabei achando um manual da sata antigo e os dados são iguais em tudo até as peças é uma SATAJET MC - B RP 1.3 mas a SATA colocou como uma nova versão SATAJET E toda polida na época talvez tentando entrar no mercado aqui na época 😂😂😂😂
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Cheers, mate, much appreciated 👍
@Pete's Hobbies cheers buddy 🥰🥰🥰
First koment brother
Thanks buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 selalu menyukai vidio anda
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1.4 too big for minijet
Hi buddy, I have 1.0 , 1.2, and 1.4 and use them all. The 1.4 is great for HS clear coat and nice and fast, 1.2 is the best all-rounder, cheers 👍