My team just loves doing IT.. (wondering around the JG doing litteraly nothing) (abandone me when i show up to help and the fight hasnt even started) (exc)... it doesnt matter how good you are if your team cant help you
I'm in masters elo and I just watched 3 of my replays and found at least 5 examples of me being late by 2-5 seconds that cost me substantially. This is actually insanely good advice and a good focus point for myself and everyone else. Thanks Hector!
I don't understand why Hector still works at skill capped, his content is 20x better than the average skill capped content. He should join the We Will Teach You League community or make his own brand even.
I'm trying to start learning league after being ssl in rocket league very different games but the moment he started talking about how important time is it instantly rang true. It's very good advice for anyone at any game imo. The biggest advantage of doing things with such speed is that when you make the wrong decision you know this decision was bad not my timing to it or something else which allows you to improve way faster.
Yes, yes, thanks Hector, climbing is more difficult every season thanks to you, I used to get Diamon without seeing it, now I also have to learn all these nuances just to get back to my usual elo. Now its a real grind cause everyone knows a ton of stuff
@@DreadnThis yes every advice is a guide in the technical sense stop being a pedantic lowiq it's obv what he meant when he said guide as in the usual format of the youtube guides not the fact an advice is a form of guidance you have no friends irl
Last week I played quinn non-stop with the simple goal of constantly pushing, using my R to fly round the map and clear waves endlessly. I won so many games that felt lost simply because every time the enemies got a kill they had to clear 2-3 waves before they could make it to a tower/objective safely
Yup, Nice one, also one thing to add is that being a "guide nerd" and not climb could affect Your mentality A LOT, by thinking "I'm doing all the right Things, SO it's alwayse My team's fault for the lose" or blaming loser q or random algorythms, etc...
The hypothetical coaching from a support perspective: Yeah, that seems about right! :'D But yeah, 100%, as a support main, while I don't spend much time pushing alone, it is sooo frustrating when you see the next play and you're like "come on adc, come on, lets gooo, use your spell, get those minions and go!... go! alright, whatever I'll kill those minions you'll rage but at least we'll go!" XD
Huge fan of your content hector. I’ve also watched many of your Smurf commentaries and appreciate the videos you’ve created. Thank you, I’m glad to know of you.
@@Faultles No I'm talking about a Fiora walks up with 3 casters and literally just 2 taps both nexus turrets because of how ridiculous her turret damage scaling is with Q, Triforce, E etc. She's hardly the fastest one either
As a master garen, I often am pushing a wave to crash in into a tower. I used to push waves like jungler monsters, positioning myself naturally in the direction I want to go. Eventually I realized I was faster than my minion wave, even including the time spent to push the next wave, and that I would wait my minions once I reach the enemy tower. This led me to understand that sometimes, rather than being fast yourself, you want your minion wave to be fast (same concept apply after an ace when you push a lane to take towers or end the game). In this scenario, rather than pushing as fast as possible, you want your minions to keep walking as long as possible. So you must often reach the enemy melees and burst them, then kill the enemy casters before your wave reach them. If you are ahead of your wave and planning to clear an incoming wave, you can also rush to take agro of the enemy minions and block them as early as possible, so that your wave can keep walking a few steps further than they would if you did not block the enemy waves. That way when you are done clearing this wave, your minions are closer to the enemy tower than they would be.
Super relevant to me. I ALWAYS over think and the modest wins I get from binging guides inevitably set me back because I spend so much time trying to remember what so and so said vs hitting SEND
I can’t even lie, the split pushing strat works with ADC works. I also started focusing more on my CS and really low elo players don’t prioritise farming. Also picking and learning strong champions helps a lot but try not to learn them in ranked 😅.
@@nuruhu5122 you will still grief with them in ranked just because people in ranked are more serious and ur playing against for funners/ first timers to champs / drunk people, you sadly have to play ranked and make mistakes in ranked to learn a new champ
@@mahino420 hmmm. I see your point but the basics of a champ is what I am referring to. Like how to use their spells or knowing what their spells so. You can do that out side ranked and then take it into ranked to limit test. I am against playing a champ you have not even practiced with In ranked just to learn. It makes no sense unless you are too good at the game that it won’t matter but for the lower elo dudes, I would not recommend playing a champ for the first time in ranked.
one of your best videos. i do think about this, and i "feel" the push speed difference between champions im better at vs learning, but i never considered how much those small delays affect game outcomes - even to the point of having better outcomes with champs and itemizations that push faster without realizing that advantage fully. (and im sure my "better" pushing is still too slow)
This is legit best guide for low elo. Im s13 gm eve jg eune and wasting time is only thing that loses games. It's so boring to play with low elo friends when they think couple seconds too much and then game is already predictable
master player here in euw, and wow, I never thought that a video really would make me think a lot about my mistakes. In concrete i thought i was rly good player playing tempo but never focused that so much. Now. I will focus it more and see what happens cause, tbh, that makes a lot of sense.
As a support main this is still quite useful, tho I think I would like more support guides on this sort of thing, coz a thing I often struggle with is what to do when in between things coz people spam ping not to take minions and it won’t be safe to go get vision down. I know there is a way of managing it. Just a guide on speed as support would be yseful
Guides are often problematic in my eyes because constantly using them will make it tough to think outside the box and get creative. Getting stuck in the mindset of 'just do this', or 'follow this guide' is inherently unhealthy.
I've been saying for a long time that guide content has ruined the games progression ladder. Too many people follow a guide and do "correct" things with no sense of why they're correct, or when it would be incorrect, and because they now know a new concept, they get an ego, and if their play goes wrong they become way less likely to think about the actual gamestate to evaluate what they could've done differently. There's a lot of small, easy to remember steps to follow in games to play at a higher level than your understanding of the game in at least 50% of your games, but simply being told to do those things is not the same as understanding them.
As a Yuumi main... I did not know this was such a factor. But my excuse is that I'm a Yuumi main. A single minion death by my hand is a legendary triumph.
what i see people always say to people when someone is hardstuck when they are way better than their rank is say "just play hypercarrys then" but you shouldnt need to do that you should be able to climb with the characters you like to play, like some people play supports where you cant really do anything if your team dont play around you in team fights, like it doesnt matter how good of a support you are if your adc backs off on every completely safe kill you setup or every single one of your team are feeding you cant do anything about it. ive had games where their entire team will flop onto my lane to bully me all game after killing my laner heaps to force me out of lane so i cant farm at all to stop me from snowballing, yet somehow my team wont take advantage of that to get all that free farm while they wasting their time in my lane.
these guides are getting so much insanely better i think as a diamond i know nothing. (i actually know but the video is fed up with insanely good info that really opened my eyes to the importance of the macro play)
i love this. this is smart. and honestly something i half do without anyone telling me....well sometimes. as a teemo i hit each back line minion once that is enough to kill them slowly withj posion or i use 1-2 shrooms and attack the canon.
Basically - its a team game and people in soloq only play for themselves - and on average, just watching someone do something doesnt explain everything that goes into why they do it.
In general, do not listen to pros or take their advice. No one wants their competition to improve. Just look how challenger players play and try to understand why they make the decision they do.
I'm a content nerd. I have no time to play ranked tho so i don't really rank up. I don't think it's possible to hit high ranks or even be good at the game without investing a huge amount of time into it. It's the only take i disagree with in this video. League is hard because the important scenarios you need to get good at handling are not replicable in practice tool. The only way you practice how to react to your team inting into the dragonpit while you decide what to do next is to actually have your team int into dragonpit IN A REAL GAME. Great video as always Hector
Funny how i was already doing the step 2 just because it looked cool killing a whole wave with 1 ability without realizing it's the most efficient way to kill the wave xd
The portion that makes Fakers play in the example troll in comp but honestly fine in solo Q is comms. The team should have been on the same page about if the fight was over. Excellent choice example
That was a lack of communication @ 8:05. There should be no reason a professional team should all not be on the same decision. Especially since they have voice connections too. Also TLDR, learn to efficiently clear waves with your champ and move towards river to prepare rotate.
What about freezing? Is fast pushing more for mid to late game? Thanks mate. I realized those thinks but this video helped me for better understanding what I noticed.
Imo ,people that play really good in lane ,like that Darius ,he either doesnt know what to do mid and late game or he just uses those fundamentals in top sometimes and he autopilots and forgets to do them in every game
Thank god someome said i feel relieved I dont play mage mid not because i dont know mechanics But pushing wave with champs that AA dont do dmg, sucks so much Even if im fed early game, if you dont keep farming youll fall and i always fall as mage mid
Keep in mind that high elo players play more than you, are more invested in knowing everything in advance, and are more likely to come on top of the early season, boosting their elo with more rewarding victories. Also : nobody gives a shit about League ranks among normal people. It's okay to be bronze, and it's okay to play like shit and move to other games that don't punish people for trying to play together with friends who are on another level of skill. Just be cool with your friends, enjoy the game while you can, then when it becomes unfair and frustrating, move on and only play once per month or something. League isn't a game per say, it's a "sport" 🙃
Something I notice at least in my games that seems to never be spoken about, a lot of times my opponent in low elo just simply does not care about minions while at the same time they are actually decent with their champ making the lane very frustrating. I'm over here trying to trade properly while farming well, and this guy is just farming my health bar like a golden coral buffet. Its pretty difficult to predict because you just dont know till youre in lane, I know I speak for a lot of people here when i meantion this. If there is any solution yall could find to punish this playstyle more efficiently without saying "just level lead or fight back or pick meta champs" It could help boost some winrates.
Proxy, i just proxy them if i have a champion that cant farm and fight at the same time, this forces them to either lose hp/mana clearing wave, or lose some cs farming under the turret, eitherways, now they are forced to sit still and do farming like a good boy and they don't get to fight me, which was the entire reason they chose that pick and items for so i am ultimately better as long as i proxy
I find that climbing is better in flex, especially if you have a full team with coordination! Solo queue is a cluster dump! You can climb in it sure, just much harder to do!
@@MaryseBarbieand also is not as meaningfull as solo rank, you can be gm/chall in flex but be diamond/low master in solos. Doesn't really reflect on your individual skill when you flex Q. But I see the appeal, its fun with group of COMPETENT friends :p
Thats what people have typed under your videos for years. Challenger execution / Silver execution. Get the ideas from here, but its NOT simple as that. You need to improve, you need to do challenger execution. Put in the time and improve, or just accept your elo. Being silver or diamond, but even challenger wont affect your real life anyways. Enjoy the game or quit. Dont suffer for nothing. AND IF YOU DONT LIKE MY OPINION I HAVE THE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED! ITS LIKE A GYM MEMBERSHIP....
Loved this but can you do it with melee champs? It seems easier to do that with ranged champions because you can be further away to clear the waves and be quicker to the rotation, but w/melee champs it doesn't work the same. Or is the mental different for melee champs entirely?-
"Why? Why don't they improve faster?" It's literally because of their teammates. League of Legends is a 5v5 team game. Unless you're Challenger and smurfing, you have no real agency over how games turn out. You're literally at the mercy of whether or not your team wants to throw the game.
Because the game has been around for so long I feel like the skill gap is bigger than ever, I played frequently about 10 years ago, got to silver 1 really easily, now I’m hard stuck iron/bronze, even when I do well in my lane and push/carry i have about 46% win rate
I got banned from this channel's server talking about this (also trolling someone) but everyone in that server just repeats 10 years old advice and blames you for being below diamond (they are all below diamond). You know the cherry on top? I'm emerald 2.
Dude, this is absolutely me... I'm midlaner, average 9 Cs a minute win or lose, I crush my midlane, but I just CAN'T carry 55% of my games, there is just too many smurfs adding to the feeders and hard throwing mates that wanted to carry the game, and because they lost lane, they just want to throw as hard as possible... I'm peak Plat 1, and i'm currently stuck in gold 4/ Silver 2 in my smurf account. I just can't carry enough games, and it's so hard to figure out why ! I even got coaching, hetold me to play even more perfectly, all game...
Hey man, no flame, but I guess a good advice for you is to stop thinking about what your team does wrong, on your coment you made only coments about your teammates, none about yourself, remember, the only constant on your games is that guy on your teams midlane, everything else changes. I hope you wont feel ofended by this, just a reminder. GL and HF
So essentially: Players are so good on average now that the best advice is to just be faster than they are and rely on instinct built upon hours of muscle memory/practice.
And for supports that really don't push or have champs capable of pushing "faster" out there? Or if as support you pick a mage with wave clear you end up tilting your team because no one wants to pick up waves but you do. Then your team see's your CS score, freaks out, and ints blaming the whole game on support taking too much CS. Yah.. that happens way to often in lower elo I've seen. Truth be told, this is why I hate solo climbing as support because it is the hardest role to climb with as you have very little agency in the game compared to the other 4 roles. Most good high elo support mains all say the same thing. Then you see high elo players claim support is broken because supports roam mid on them at 4 minutes into a match to gank a kill off them causing them to scream support is broken from a single roam. Another thing I see too often. However, I will say this video is great for every other role in the game. Even junglers. While junglers have their own thing to know when it comes to jungle clears, they do need to know how to pick up waves effectively. Many don't in lower elos at all.
Unfortunately this guide in particular is aimed to any role but support. Supports are not meant to handle the waves, they help in other ways, theres a few supp picks that can contribute to wave control like ziggs or lux but of course they are very situational. They do have other guides designed specifically for the support role tho
in lower elos lol, im in these lower elos, i will literally be mid or side lane or whatever getting a wave.. lux will 95% of the time E the casters, morgana will 95% of the time drop W on the wave, bonus points for Q last hitting the cannon but thats not too common.. sometimes you get these absolute treat mage supp players on lux that will see you on the wave, then ult it.. thank you lux, consider learning mid lane or even apc if you enjoy farming and high income but holy bro let me at least get the minions man.. promise like almost all mage supp players will take at least casters on every wave, some want it all those greedy bastards lmao
There are two ways of dealing with waves nobody takes. 1. If the wave goes into your tower, hit and drag the wave away from the tower or tank the wave. You can even try to ping the wave. This will help other laners rotate towards the minion wave. If the wave is already in tower and you don't see anybody moving towards the wave, feel free to clear it as support getting CS is better than nobody getting cs. If you're not good with wave states, I'd recommend avoiding hitting minions if you're with the ADC as it can easily mess up the lane.
I had a really similar thought to this video recently, since ludwig started playing league and got a bit of vod review and "coaching" from caedrel. It's rough watching a new player get tips from someone so knowledgeable. Theres like this massive gap in knowledge/understanding to where he thinks like "oh caedrel said i should push a wave before dragon" and rather than understanding why, or when it is NOT applicable, he just burns that into his brain. Also a lot of these guides for lower elo always ignore that its low elo...like pushing a wave to pressure a side lane in your examples honestly should mean so little to bronze players, or even plat players I've noticed. I see it a lot where there is no one on the enemy team to catch the wave. And then your team is also oblivious to the pressure youre putting out and they decide to insta fight for obj and lose 4v5 because pros tell them objectives are important. So while you may make the "right" choice, a lot of times in low elo it doesnt matter. It becomes more about playing the players, imo Anyway all this to say that more guides with explanations as thorough as this while describing the disparity between a challenger level decision and any lower level is so much more helpful. Helping people understand the information so they can make actual good decisions for themselves is leagues better than giving them the decision as if winning in league is a flowchart they can follow
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My team just loves doing IT.. (wondering around the JG doing litteraly nothing) (abandone me when i show up to help and the fight hasnt even started) (exc)... it doesnt matter how good you are if your team cant help you
I'm in masters elo and I just watched 3 of my replays and found at least 5 examples of me being late by 2-5 seconds that cost me substantially. This is actually insanely good advice and a good focus point for myself and everyone else.
Thanks Hector!
Exactly what a fkn bot would say
I don't understand why Hector still works at skill capped, his content is 20x better than the average skill capped content. He should join the We Will Teach You League community or make his own brand even.
probs got a contract and security staying with a company
he propably gets percentage based salary or Bonuses and so on.. otherwise why you think he puts so much thought and effort in it.
The greatest advice I ever received from a high elo player is to "NEVER HESITATE, AND EVERY MOVE MUST HAVE A SOLID INTENTION"
As someone said in a videogame that's way easier than League : "hesitation is defeat".
I'm trying to start learning league after being ssl in rocket league very different games but the moment he started talking about how important time is it instantly rang true. It's very good advice for anyone at any game imo. The biggest advantage of doing things with such speed is that when you make the wrong decision you know this decision was bad not my timing to it or something else which allows you to improve way faster.
The thought process for coaching hector verbalized is perfect. You don’t coach nuances, you coach things that are simple and repeatable.
Skillcapped has started war with pro guides
Wouldnt call it war. It's just fair criticism that things being mentioned often forget the subtle details that matter a lot.
what is pro guides
@@sababeridze3155scam company full of shit
@@sababeridze3155 a at best mediocre "guide" channel.
Proguides is dead for league.
Yes, yes, thanks Hector, climbing is more difficult every season thanks to you, I used to get Diamon without seeing it, now I also have to learn all these nuances just to get back to my usual elo. Now its a real grind cause everyone knows a ton of stuff
LOL
Nah Bro, emerald is just cancerous as hell. Full of smurfs and hardstuck players.
Good.
“Are guides not helping you? Watch this GUIDE”
it's not a guide tho lol
@@horizon146 it is 5:31
@@crazyyoruso we're just gonna ignore the entire video and cherry pick this or what
@@horizon146 guide = to direct or influence a path.. this is literally a guide 😂
@@DreadnThis yes every advice is a guide in the technical sense stop being a pedantic lowiq it's obv what he meant when he said guide as in the usual format of the youtube guides not the fact an advice is a form of guidance you have no friends irl
Last week I played quinn non-stop with the simple goal of constantly pushing, using my R to fly round the map and clear waves endlessly. I won so many games that felt lost simply because every time the enemies got a kill they had to clear 2-3 waves before they could make it to a tower/objective safely
And it's funny as hell zooming around at super speed "ignoring" the game state.
Yup, Nice one, also one thing to add is that being a "guide nerd" and not climb could affect Your mentality A LOT, by thinking "I'm doing all the right Things, SO it's alwayse My team's fault for the lose" or blaming loser q or random algorythms, etc...
The hypothetical coaching from a support perspective: Yeah, that seems about right! :'D
But yeah, 100%, as a support main, while I don't spend much time pushing alone, it is sooo frustrating when you see the next play and you're like "come on adc, come on, lets gooo, use your spell, get those minions and go!... go! alright, whatever I'll kill those minions you'll rage but at least we'll go!" XD
Huge fan of your content hector. I’ve also watched many of your Smurf commentaries and appreciate the videos you’ve created. Thank you, I’m glad to know of you.
Is the thumbnail a smack at the Proguides channel 😂
That would be pretty dumb because they are literally clones of each other.
I always thought they was the same thing lol
@@SmickyDIt seems they’ve leaned more and more into clickbait, that used to be the difference between proguides and them
i thought more about the wanna tell us they are making low guides :D
thought the same thing too
TheBauss took this to it's logical extreme. You always push, no matter what. If there's no wave, the enemy can't end
In late game scenarios where a tank has near enough full build he can tank the turrets and team can end but you don't see that often
@@Faultles No I'm talking about a Fiora walks up with 3 casters and literally just 2 taps both nexus turrets because of how ridiculous her turret damage scaling is with Q, Triforce, E etc. She's hardly the fastest one either
These late videos are actually incredibly helpful at shifitng thr mindset
Hector's voice is so calm and cute, it makes me smile 😅
He's so good at lecturing, I'd listen to him all day
As a master garen, I often am pushing a wave to crash in into a tower. I used to push waves like jungler monsters, positioning myself naturally in the direction I want to go. Eventually I realized I was faster than my minion wave, even including the time spent to push the next wave, and that I would wait my minions once I reach the enemy tower.
This led me to understand that sometimes, rather than being fast yourself, you want your minion wave to be fast (same concept apply after an ace when you push a lane to take towers or end the game).
In this scenario, rather than pushing as fast as possible, you want your minions to keep walking as long as possible. So you must often reach the enemy melees and burst them, then kill the enemy casters before your wave reach them.
If you are ahead of your wave and planning to clear an incoming wave, you can also rush to take agro of the enemy minions and block them as early as possible, so that your wave can keep walking a few steps further than they would if you did not block the enemy waves. That way when you are done clearing this wave, your minions are closer to the enemy tower than they would be.
Thank you. This really helped.
"he was doing so fine, but his team was trolling" - story of my life 😭😭
Press X to doubt. 95% of people who say this all the time are just bad and don't wanna realise it.
@@SafineyaI'm doing fine while looking like i'm trolling, i'm just playing for getting as much of a gold advantage as possible.
Super relevant to me. I ALWAYS over think and the modest wins I get from binging guides inevitably set me back because I spend so much time trying to remember what so and so said vs hitting SEND
Hey guys. Offtopic but I have a suggestion: it would be nice to have a playlist for every role on your channel
I can’t even lie, the split pushing strat works with ADC works. I also started focusing more on my CS and really low elo players don’t prioritise farming. Also picking and learning strong champions helps a lot but try not to learn them in ranked 😅.
you actually have to learn in ranked cause that is the kind of enemies u will face
@@mahino420 I play ranked mostly. Recently started learning new champs in draft and not griefing by learning them in ranked.
@@nuruhu5122 you will still grief with them in ranked just because people in ranked are more serious and ur playing against for funners/ first timers to champs / drunk people, you sadly have to play ranked and make mistakes in ranked to learn a new champ
@@mahino420 hmmm. I see your point but the basics of a champ is what I am referring to. Like how to use their spells or knowing what their spells so. You can do that out side ranked and then take it into ranked to limit test. I am against playing a champ you have not even practiced with
In ranked just to learn. It makes no sense unless you are too good at the game that it won’t matter but for the lower elo dudes, I would not recommend playing a champ for the first time in ranked.
@@nuruhu5122 i respect u dont int ur teammates at least
one of your best videos. i do think about this, and i "feel" the push speed difference between champions im better at vs learning, but i never considered how much those small delays affect game outcomes - even to the point of having better outcomes with champs and itemizations that push faster without realizing that advantage fully. (and im sure my "better" pushing is still too slow)
This is legit best guide for low elo. Im s13 gm eve jg eune and wasting time is only thing that loses games. It's so boring to play with low elo friends when they think couple seconds too much and then game is already predictable
This is actually exceptional coaching content
I don't overthink. I just don't think at all. Awesome guide btw gonna try this out.
Ty Hector. Very nice video, the examples really hit home how important just a few seconds can make. Will try to work on this in my games.
One of your best videos so far! Thanks!
Jinx missing that wolf in 0:56 is sick
Sorry, about that Faker thing? Aren't they in comms during the game?
This guide is one of the most underrated guides of all time
master player here in euw, and wow, I never thought that a video really would make me think a lot about my mistakes. In concrete i thought i was rly good player playing tempo but never focused that so much. Now. I will focus it more and see what happens cause, tbh, that makes a lot of sense.
One of the best guides youve put out holy
1:22 By the gameplay, that darius is a menace, he doesn't care what u think about him xd
As a support main this is still quite useful, tho I think I would like more support guides on this sort of thing, coz a thing I often struggle with is what to do when in between things coz people spam ping not to take minions and it won’t be safe to go get vision down. I know there is a way of managing it. Just a guide on speed as support would be yseful
Hector is a fan favorite on skillcapped can we get a Hector playlist 😀
Guides are often problematic in my eyes because constantly using them will make it tough to think outside the box and get creative. Getting stuck in the mindset of 'just do this', or 'follow this guide' is inherently unhealthy.
Thank you Hector, amazing job AGAIN! 😍
this is some next level tech, thanks Hector
I've been saying for a long time that guide content has ruined the games progression ladder. Too many people follow a guide and do "correct" things with no sense of why they're correct, or when it would be incorrect, and because they now know a new concept, they get an ego, and if their play goes wrong they become way less likely to think about the actual gamestate to evaluate what they could've done differently. There's a lot of small, easy to remember steps to follow in games to play at a higher level than your understanding of the game in at least 50% of your games, but simply being told to do those things is not the same as understanding them.
Thanks to this guide, I ez climbed from hardstuck iron 4 to rank 1 challanger 😎
can i get an autograph?
As a Yuumi main... I did not know this was such a factor. But my excuse is that I'm a Yuumi main. A single minion death by my hand is a legendary triumph.
what i see people always say to people when someone is hardstuck when they are way better than their rank is say "just play hypercarrys then" but you shouldnt need to do that you should be able to climb with the characters you like to play, like some people play supports where you cant really do anything if your team dont play around you in team fights, like it doesnt matter how good of a support you are if your adc backs off on every completely safe kill you setup or every single one of your team are feeding you cant do anything about it. ive had games where their entire team will flop onto my lane to bully me all game after killing my laner heaps to force me out of lane so i cant farm at all to stop me from snowballing, yet somehow my team wont take advantage of that to get all that free farm while they wasting their time in my lane.
Hector is my fav content creator from skill cap
these guides are getting so much insanely better i think as a diamond i know nothing.
(i actually know but the video is fed up with insanely good info that really opened my eyes to the importance of the macro play)
i love this. this is smart. and honestly something i half do without anyone telling me....well sometimes. as a teemo i hit each back line minion once that is enough to kill them slowly withj posion or i use 1-2 shrooms and attack the canon.
The coaching service beef is real, take your side and make your bets boys, the war has begun.
Basically - its a team game and people in soloq only play for themselves - and on average, just watching someone do something doesnt explain everything that goes into why they do it.
Oh my god, finally some tips for low master players like me! lets go!
18:46 The problem Ahri is facing is that her team will die the moment she will reach minion wave.
If we talk about how to make a push effective, they should talk and teach how to respond to pushes, and how to defend them :D
Hector is the best. Hector for President
Almost like that stuff I said awhile back about these guides not changing the overall underlying issue with the playerbase was real..
One of the best tips I actually watched
my support lux after seeing this guide pressing R on my wave to make sure we push it fast: 👁👄👁
In general, do not listen to pros or take their advice. No one wants their competition to improve. Just look how challenger players play and try to understand why they make the decision they do.
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU , BEST SKILL FOR CLIMB
Holy, one of your best videos ever.
I'm a content nerd. I have no time to play ranked tho so i don't really rank up. I don't think it's possible to hit high ranks or even be good at the game without investing a huge amount of time into it. It's the only take i disagree with in this video. League is hard because the important scenarios you need to get good at handling are not replicable in practice tool. The only way you practice how to react to your team inting into the dragonpit while you decide what to do next is to actually have your team int into dragonpit IN A REAL GAME.
Great video as always Hector
Funny how i was already doing the step 2 just because it looked cool killing a whole wave with 1 ability without realizing it's the most efficient way to kill the wave xd
What a great guide, I didn't know this after 4 years of playing lol
The portion that makes Fakers play in the example troll in comp but honestly fine in solo Q is comms. The team should have been on the same page about if the fight was over. Excellent choice example
Kraken does 48% when the minion is at 100% HP but it scales with missing hp so another kraken would probably kill
this some nice info, much appreciated!
That was a lack of communication @ 8:05. There should be no reason a professional team should all not be on the same decision. Especially since they have voice connections too.
Also TLDR, learn to efficiently clear waves with your champ and move towards river to prepare rotate.
"oh hi nami! guess im having sushi" killed me (6:09)
What about freezing? Is fast pushing more for mid to late game?
Thanks mate. I realized those thinks but this video helped me for better understanding what I noticed.
Imo ,people that play really good in lane ,like that Darius ,he either doesnt know what to do mid and late game or he just uses those fundamentals in top sometimes and he autopilots and forgets to do them in every game
im jungle main but still watched this video. good content.
PC league should add the minion health indicator from Wild Rift that lets you know when your next attack will kill the minion
Thank god someome said i feel relieved
I dont play mage mid not because i dont know mechanics
But pushing wave with champs that AA dont do dmg, sucks so much
Even if im fed early game, if you dont keep farming youll fall and i always fall as mage mid
1:44 which means alot of players are playing just like him in this elo
Keep in mind that high elo players play more than you, are more invested in knowing everything in advance, and are more likely to come on top of the early season, boosting their elo with more rewarding victories.
Also : nobody gives a shit about League ranks among normal people. It's okay to be bronze, and it's okay to play like shit and move to other games that don't punish people for trying to play together with friends who are on another level of skill. Just be cool with your friends, enjoy the game while you can, then when it becomes unfair and frustrating, move on and only play once per month or something.
League isn't a game per say, it's a "sport" 🙃
Something I notice at least in my games that seems to never be spoken about, a lot of times my opponent in low elo just simply does not care about minions while at the same time they are actually decent with their champ making the lane very frustrating. I'm over here trying to trade properly while farming well, and this guy is just farming my health bar like a golden coral buffet. Its pretty difficult to predict because you just dont know till youre in lane, I know I speak for a lot of people here when i meantion this. If there is any solution yall could find to punish this playstyle more efficiently without saying "just level lead or fight back or pick meta champs" It could help boost some winrates.
Proxy, i just proxy them if i have a champion that cant farm and fight at the same time, this forces them to either lose hp/mana clearing wave, or lose some cs farming under the turret, eitherways, now they are forced to sit still and do farming like a good boy and they don't get to fight me, which was the entire reason they chose that pick and items for so i am ultimately better as long as i proxy
“We are playing a video game, we’re not studying calculus” I’m literally watching this in my cal 2 class 😭
"You are slow because you dont believe" such an underrated comment.
I find that climbing is better in flex, especially if you have a full team with coordination! Solo queue is a cluster dump! You can climb in it sure, just much harder to do!
Flex is full of bums, hardly can call that actual ranked
@@Piememekia 💯 that’s why it’s better to climb in! 🤣
@@MaryseBarbieand also is not as meaningfull as solo rank, you can be gm/chall in flex but be diamond/low master in solos. Doesn't really reflect on your individual skill when you flex Q. But I see the appeal, its fun with group of COMPETENT friends :p
I want to scream and pull my hair out whenever i see one of my low elo friends sit in base for 20 seconds trying to decide how they should itemize
I do that all the time and I'm emerald.
that's me, sry
Bro made a video to lie about how useful these guides are rofl.
Thats what people have typed under your videos for years. Challenger execution / Silver execution. Get the ideas from here, but its NOT simple as that. You need to improve, you need to do challenger execution. Put in the time and improve, or just accept your elo. Being silver or diamond, but even challenger wont affect your real life anyways. Enjoy the game or quit. Dont suffer for nothing.
AND IF YOU DONT LIKE MY OPINION I HAVE THE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED! ITS LIKE A GYM MEMBERSHIP....
His advice: " DO IT. JUST DO IT"
Loved this but can you do it with melee champs? It seems easier to do that with ranged champions because you can be further away to clear the waves and be quicker to the rotation, but w/melee champs it doesn't work the same. Or is the mental different for melee champs entirely?-
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Thanks ❤🔥
This was a good one
1:48 it's because of the adc, ranged toplaners
thank you sensei
Zeus flash R engage while midlaner on mid = mid mistake nice ;)))
at this point dudes gotta expect zeus to do shit like that bro either goes 10+ kills or just ints lol either way he's clip hunting
dorans ring health pot... Like no one went it before nemesis talked about it 💀
"Why? Why don't they improve faster?"
It's literally because of their teammates. League of Legends is a 5v5 team game. Unless you're Challenger and smurfing, you have no real agency over how games turn out. You're literally at the mercy of whether or not your team wants to throw the game.
Grear video!
Because the game has been around for so long I feel like the skill gap is bigger than ever, I played frequently about 10 years ago, got to silver 1 really easily, now I’m hard stuck iron/bronze, even when I do well in my lane and push/carry i have about 46% win rate
I got banned from this channel's server talking about this (also trolling someone) but everyone in that server just repeats 10 years old advice and blames you for being below diamond (they are all below diamond).
You know the cherry on top? I'm emerald 2.
Dude, this is absolutely me... I'm midlaner, average 9 Cs a minute win or lose, I crush my midlane, but I just CAN'T carry 55% of my games, there is just too many smurfs adding to the feeders and hard throwing mates that wanted to carry the game, and because they lost lane, they just want to throw as hard as possible...
I'm peak Plat 1, and i'm currently stuck in gold 4/ Silver 2 in my smurf account. I just can't carry enough games, and it's so hard to figure out why !
I even got coaching, hetold me to play even more perfectly, all game...
Hey man, no flame, but I guess a good advice for you is to stop thinking about what your team does wrong, on your coment you made only coments about your teammates, none about yourself, remember, the only constant on your games is that guy on your teams midlane, everything else changes. I hope you wont feel ofended by this, just a reminder. GL and HF
So essentially: Players are so good on average now that the best advice is to just be faster than they are and rely on instinct built upon hours of muscle memory/practice.
1:15 meanwhile your team dies 4v4 and you die from noct ult as soon as you come into lane
And for supports that really don't push or have champs capable of pushing "faster" out there? Or if as support you pick a mage with wave clear you end up tilting your team because no one wants to pick up waves but you do. Then your team see's your CS score, freaks out, and ints blaming the whole game on support taking too much CS. Yah.. that happens way to often in lower elo I've seen. Truth be told, this is why I hate solo climbing as support because it is the hardest role to climb with as you have very little agency in the game compared to the other 4 roles. Most good high elo support mains all say the same thing. Then you see high elo players claim support is broken because supports roam mid on them at 4 minutes into a match to gank a kill off them causing them to scream support is broken from a single roam. Another thing I see too often.
However, I will say this video is great for every other role in the game. Even junglers. While junglers have their own thing to know when it comes to jungle clears, they do need to know how to pick up waves effectively. Many don't in lower elos at all.
Unfortunately this guide in particular is aimed to any role but support. Supports are not meant to handle the waves, they help in other ways, theres a few supp picks that can contribute to wave control like ziggs or lux but of course they are very situational. They do have other guides designed specifically for the support role tho
in lower elos lol, im in these lower elos, i will literally be mid or side lane or whatever getting a wave.. lux will 95% of the time E the casters, morgana will 95% of the time drop W on the wave, bonus points for Q last hitting the cannon but thats not too common.. sometimes you get these absolute treat mage supp players on lux that will see you on the wave, then ult it.. thank you lux, consider learning mid lane or even apc if you enjoy farming and high income but holy bro let me at least get the minions man.. promise like almost all mage supp players will take at least casters on every wave, some want it all those greedy bastards lmao
There are two ways of dealing with waves nobody takes. 1. If the wave goes into your tower, hit and drag the wave away from the tower or tank the wave. You can even try to ping the wave. This will help other laners rotate towards the minion wave. If the wave is already in tower and you don't see anybody moving towards the wave, feel free to clear it as support getting CS is better than nobody getting cs. If you're not good with wave states, I'd recommend avoiding hitting minions if you're with the ADC as it can easily mess up the lane.
The problem with always pushing is that it pretty much guarantees that someone on your team will mental boom and run it down.
I had a really similar thought to this video recently, since ludwig started playing league and got a bit of vod review and "coaching" from caedrel.
It's rough watching a new player get tips from someone so knowledgeable. Theres like this massive gap in knowledge/understanding to where he thinks like "oh caedrel said i should push a wave before dragon" and rather than understanding why, or when it is NOT applicable, he just burns that into his brain.
Also a lot of these guides for lower elo always ignore that its low elo...like pushing a wave to pressure a side lane in your examples honestly should mean so little to bronze players, or even plat players I've noticed. I see it a lot where there is no one on the enemy team to catch the wave. And then your team is also oblivious to the pressure youre putting out and they decide to insta fight for obj and lose 4v5 because pros tell them objectives are important. So while you may make the "right" choice, a lot of times in low elo it doesnt matter. It becomes more about playing the players, imo
Anyway all this to say that more guides with explanations as thorough as this while describing the disparity between a challenger level decision and any lower level is so much more helpful. Helping people understand the information so they can make actual good decisions for themselves is leagues better than giving them the decision as if winning in league is a flowchart they can follow
What should I know as a jungler about wave management when I’m not a laner? I’m pretty low elo and a lot of people on my teams don’t push waves
Same, faster