I think that with the up and coming 32nd century-set Starfleet Academy show happening that they should somehow incorporate the footage from the 1997 game of the same name that featured William Shatner as Captain Kirk giving the Academy's 2288 Command College cadets that incredibly stirring speech. In the very first episode of Enterprise they used archive footage (albeit newly recorded for the episode) of Zefram Cochrane giving a speech prior to the launch of NX-01 so there is precedent. I'd be happy enough with that. I don't need for Kirk to be resurrected but I won't be upset if he is.
They forget that Riker got Transporter cloned and his other self hijacked the Deffiant to go after Cardassians. Just go back in time remove the patch on the transporter that fixed the issue that reulted in a copy being made and copy Kirk just before he dies. Then decide who dies (because someone has to) It's either the OG that dies or the copy dies. And it's all made possible due to either a stellar phenomena like that wormhole Janeway encounered that she communicated with a Romulan ship in the past or someone like Q.
Okay here's my idea: A massive machine arrives, from a planet of Kirks, and they need to go back in time and get a Kirk from before they went extinct to communicate with it- Wait...
Considering Trelane is pretty much in the same tier of species as the Q, it might be interesting to have Q give Trelane the idea about having a human friend...cue Kirk...
There's nothing to stop Kirk from leaving the Nexus at a later point. Then returning for Picard to find. Essentially having Kirk stuck in the Nexus for a few weeks, rather than decades. This would be a good way to have him cameo in an episode of a TV show, or even a movie. Yet keep the timeline intact.
Although I can't explain why his body was taken to a research facility. Kirk's remains being repatriated wouldn't be that out of the ordinary, although I doubt it will be as fanciful as Horatio Nelson been brought back in a barrel of wine after Trafalgar.
I think I'm probably on fairly safe ground when I say: "the fans want to see Shatner do 'one last hurrah' as Kirk". It doesn't have to make sense...just bring him back and work out the details afterwards!
I'm just happy that Matallas opened the door for this to happen. Even if he doesn't return, return. It's still possible that it opens up a whole new chapter in Trek. 🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖
One other way to bring back Kirk would be the same way they brought Kahless back in Next Generation. They make a clone body and imprint memories into his mind. It's not the trukirk, but with the amount of information they have on her concluding his exploits, personal logs, and statements by people who knew him, he could be very convincing.
I think Kirk was resurrected in this Unification short, due to perhaps Gary Mitchell's involvement, the Kirk Easter egg in Picard Season 3 (due to Picard Season 3 showrunner Terry Matalas saying he was unhappy with Kirk's death in "Generations") and the multiple medical monitors shown in other online OTOY footage. Terry Matalas said he hoped that other Star Trek writers/creators would pick up on the Kirk Easter egg from Picard Season 3 and I think this is what OTOY has done. Also, there's no reason why Kirk couldn't be resurrected, since he is not the only major Star Trek character that would have been resurrected. Obviously we know that Spock was resurrected once, but Scotty was also resurrected (after being killed in TOS episode "The Changeling", in which the robot Nomad kills Scotty and Kirk orders Nomad to "repair" (resurrect) Scotty, which Nomad DOES). Also, Dr. McCoy was resurrected in TOS episode "Shore Leave" after he was killed by a knight. Somehow the planet revived McCoy before the end of the episode.
The easiest way to bring back Kirk is also the most devastating to Star Trek canon: Kirk never left the Nexus. When Picard convinced Kirk to leave the Nexus, they basically wished their way out. That actually makes no sense, since the Nexus has already left the planet. So, "wishing" their way out would require not only a flexing of the flytrap nature of the Nexus and the idea that a part of you will always be there, but also time travel to return the Nexus to a point before the star torpedo was launched. It makes more sense that the Nexus just gave them what they wanted -- saving the Enterprise D crew, a satisfying end to Kirk's adventures, etc. -- as an in-Nexus fantasy. Since it is what they wanted, they bought into it, but it is just a fake fantasy and they are both stuck in the flytrap in perpetual stasis. This would mean that Kirk is alive, even though he thinks he is dead. If this is the case, everything in Picard's timeline post-Generations never happened. The Enterprise crew would be dead, the Enterprise D would be completely destroyed, and Seven of Nine would have never met up with Picard. This idea, if a writer is brave enough to do this, would allow for a complete reset of the Picard Era. Due to the ramification of this, it is unlikely to happen, but imagine the stories that can be told if someone was brave enough to go with it.
When it comes to kirk returning, maybe an early years spin off of stranger new worlds could work, with kirk taking command of the enterprise and basically ending going into his first on screen mission, maybe even just have it as a one off series, where kirk grows into the role left by pike and gaining the trust and friendship of a crew who lost someone they care about. I think that would be a nice way to have more kirk but not mess with his actual death (as doing that to many times in a franchise cheapens things, unless you do what stargate did but I don't think that fits the tone of star trek).
After the TOS movies, we got TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise. Every new show with amazing new and loveable characters. It's kinda sad that we are now so stuck in the "past" in Star Trek and talk more about Kirk, Pike (in SNW) and Picard instead of a new show and crew. Fan service is nice, but if a franchise is stuck in fan service and dosen't move forward, could become a problem. It would have been nice, if we would have gotten a new show with a new crew on the Enterprise-F.
While it'd be great for him to have one last adventure, to go out in a better way. This was a great send off, should be cannon, and we should leave Kirk to our memories.
i think the nexus echo's would be nice more as a way short appearance to interact with a character they'd never had the chance to. Like Bomlier and Sulu did
ok one thing that everyone is missing - the plants on the planet that Kirk was revived on ! at 2:42 and onwards kirk is seen walking though what looks like a garden ! some therioze this is the Starfleet Command / Academy cortyard in san francisco or the cave where the Genisis device chemicals were first tested ............. the Genesis stage II on the Regula planetoid or apart of Romuls or Valcan but it seems to me where he walks and meets with the Kelvin-universe alien (Yor) this planet i belive is the OG Lesure planet ! as it had been stated that the Lesure planet could bring people back from the dead ! Sulu and Mcoy were 2 of these people ! the Lesure planet also called Shore Leave Planet see the Enterprise crew were seriously injured (at the time, they were believed killed). When this happened, the injured were taken to the complex below, where their injuries were repaired. i belive this is how kirk is brought Back ! via the Lesure planet also called Shore Leave Planet 's technology to be able to regenerate those who died or was as they say injured ! this Tech would bring kirk back ! makes a lot of sense if ya think about it . :)
If the bosses behind Star Trek would want to bring Kirk back in some capacity, I think cloning could be an option. Also they might pull a Batman Beyond thing. So in the epilog to JLU it is revealed that Bruce Wayne's DNA was used to create Terry. That makes him kinda his son. I know that wouldn't revive Kirk but could keep his lineage alive.
Im not gonna lie, I would love a few animated specials set in the Shatnerverse, the first two or three arent bad but after that holy shit do they go off the rails. The man makes himself somehow the TWO most important people in the universe.
I've imagined Picard holding a dying Kirk, Hearing horses galloping, Shocked he looks up at the sky as the Nexus passes over, When he looks back down at Kirk he's died, He gets a small smile on his face as he again looks up as the Nexus finally fades from sight. That's the concept of a finish I would have loved to see. Kinda like his reaction to seeing B-4 trying to sing Blue Skies
Trelaine's "Parents" finally end his grounding from TOS shortly after Picard Season 3 on the promise he behaves himself...... he then breaks that promise to find the Enterprise to get back at Kirk for ruining his fun (he didn't learn much from being grounded). He find the Enterprise A at the fleet museum appearing on the bridge, then going from there to the B (giving a hint at it's location at present day), then D and the E (learning it was Worf's fault for it's loss) until he appears on the G encountering Captain Seven. In a childish fit he demands the location of Kirk until he learns how to invade the ships computer and finds a personal log of mention of Kirk at the Daystum Station. He then brings the stasis chamber with his powers and revives Kirk so he can finally make Kirk pay for making him sit in a corner for over a century. But I do agree that Star Trek needs to move beyond Kirk and focus on making new characters that can stand alongside his and other classic character legacies.
Maybe the Daysrom Institute kept Kirk's body so they could dress it up in different outfits and play with him like a life size doll and pretend they are going on missions with him ?
You cannot bring back Kirk electronically as a computer or an Android. All he needs to do is ask himself the question, "Why?" And he would short circuit whatever system he was in.
Unification does set up a nice way of brining Prime Kirk into the Kelvin-Verse, now what exactly he would do there outside of visiting his dying friend who knows considering he would have no knowledge of the universe he is in.
The character has been done literally to death. And the actor, the only serious portrayal of Kirk, is almost 100. Like TNG, VOY, DS9 etc etc (etc etc) - there are infinite new and expensive new stories to tell, and characters to discover Let Kirk go
I don't think the Nexus option is viable. My interpretation of what Guinan said about leaving a piece behind was because she didn't leave willingly. The Enterprise-B beamed her and other survivors out. Kirk left willingly. So... its entirely possible that he didn't leave a piece behind. But with all the Timey Wimey stuff with the Nexus... who knows what is possible with that ribbon involved.
1: parallel kirk shows up 2: time travel kirk shows up 3: transporter clone kirk shows up 4: nexus ribbon spits out another kirk avatar because time / causality dont work there 5: regular kirk is resurrected by a particularly long spool of starfleet medical technobable 6: holodeck malfunction 7: magical super entity wills him back into existence 8: the kirk who died in generations was a rouge changeling infiltrator - not affiliated with dominion. Therefore kirk never left. 9: section 31 makes a positronic android replicant of kirk. 10: the ferengi alliance, or some other misguided but technologically capable faction, make a regular biological kirk clone coded with kirks memories to think of himself and behave as captain kirk (ala 24th century kahless) 11: same as above only using replicators this time. 12: starfleet vessels are issued with emergency holograms to replace fallen crew members. Emergency command holograms can take the form of kirk. Any 5 of the above? 🤔
I was recently watching Dominic Keating and Connor Trineer's podcast with Rick Berman. He mentions that Shatner and/or his people reached out to Berman for a spot on, errr, I think it was for Enterprise. But his price tag was just too much. By an order of magnitude, it seemed. I think that'll (sadly) be the largest hurtle to seeing the man himself come back.
I would like to believe that "Shatner’s" Kirk has indeed been bought back for one last save the "Universe", the story goes that the Kelvin timeline is about to implode and cause catastrophic consequences for the prime timeline and all other timelines that exist, the "Q" are at war with each other and this causes a massive headache for everyone, so Gary steps in and with the help of many others they raid the Daystrom institute for Kirk's body, then Gary enters the Nexus and persuades Kirk to leave, he knows this is a one way ticket to say goodbye to Spock before going on his final and last ever mission, that is to help the "Kelvin verse" Enterprise and her crew to effectively close the "Kelvin timeline" for good, this results in "Shatner's" Kirk saving the universe at his expense, this time he dies a dignified death as the captain of the Enterprise-A by dying on the bridge and not under one, there is a massive explosion in space time and then we see a beautiful sunset over the "Genesis planet" with Kirk saying his last words, this is the end of both the original Kirk and the Kelvin timeline as we say goodbye and farewell for the last time.
here is the simple answer. Per another video, Spock pulls him from the nexus. Why - to team up with Janeway-Sisco-Picard and Archer to fight some space destroying menace, How- CGI.
I only have one question one thing that I noticed when they showed a scan of Kirks skeleton in the archive. I noticed that the body seemed to be in really good condition, none of the bones seem to be out of place or appear out of place,so I’m wondering if they had repaired his body when they beamed it from the planets surface onto whatever ship took it? Or what,because when he fell down the canyon and that metal bridge wrapped around him is what actually caused his death, his body should’ve been or at least his rib cage should’ve been in many different pieces just an observation.😅
Well since as you call the Kelvin timeline as already altered the future , in that Star Trek universe .I like Abrams universe instead , but everything has changed and altered enough .That all the mainstream events , could not happen there Ric .Plus like Vulcan is no longer there .And it would hard to know if Kirk and Picard would ever meet in the Kelvin timeline at all , maybe he just different ending in that timeline as well .
Anthology series is the hook to Star Trek. Episodes follow format not canon. "The Omega Glory" is a case of alternate canon. The uniforms have alternate badges, unlikely as it is the plot resolves to US iconography. Many alternate canon episodes are hallmarks of Star Trek. Any story can be told under anthology rules. Just has to fit format. Warp drive, transporter, likeable cast, imaginative story. Gene Roddenberry explicitly told writers not to corner the show into formula. The networks, and studio urge for formula as a cost cutting measure. The cost of formula to story, and imagination are staggering.
its all in the section 31 storehouse. we have a genesis device to regenerate. we have multiple forms of mind reading and transference tech. and what if the tech didnt work as well as we would hope... jim kirk denny crane style. "denny crane denny crane i once captained my own spaceship!"
simple kirk never died, it's far too strange to have this rando grave on a rando world no that was for show to keep everybody QUIET , kirk went to work for section 31 but also reunited on short ocasions with spock and scotty mabe dropped in for bones's final moment aswell
The chronology of the series places it in the PRIME timeline? Yeah, the PRIME timeline in a completely different UNIVERSE where Pike, Kirk, Spock, and other legacy characters have different faces to the Pike, Kirk Spock, and other legacy characters, played by Jeffrey Hunter, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy et al, you know the PRIME Universe we were taken back to in Star Trek Picard? So why even MENTION an alternate UNIVERSE Kirk that has nothing to do with Shatner's PRIME Universe version?
I think SNW's is all ready in an altered timeline rather than Prime... than again the Lower Decks cross over confirms SNW is Prime since Lower Decks history isn't altered that much? Ugh, I hate Temporal Mechanics in Star Trek at times lol
My brother and I who saw Generations in the theater had a strange idea back in the 90's. Did Kirk and Picard actually ever leave the Nexus in the first place? Seeing you could go anywhere you want too. Why wouldn't you just go back in time to when they had Dr Soren at the array or something, instead of moments before he launched his missal. I realized its because "the movie" but seriously of all the dumb things Star Trek has ever introduced, the nexus is one of the worst.
Could it happen? Sure. Should it happen? No. The bad way it played out in Generations doesn't mean he should be dredged back up and dangled in front of people like hollywood has been doing with everything else lately. The fan film was enough. He got his rightful sendoff. Let dead characters stay dead.
The guy in the TNG era uniform who gave Kirk his badge is Yor, established in Discovery to be a Temporal Cold War time agent from the 24th century of the Kelvin Universe. As such, he has the ability to transfer the now somehow Return to the land of the living Kirk through time and space to reunite with Spock in the Kelvin universe before his death.
@ I met him, I guess I didn’t work with him though.. Think show business has to be a double edged sword tho fer sure as the loudest voices are always the angriest!
Kurtzman Trek, aka Discovery/Strange New Worlds, is as much an alternate universe as JAR JAR Trek. If they don't have the face of Jeffrey Hunter, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForrest Kelley, James Doohan, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and Walter Koenig, what ELSE could it be????
I think that with the up and coming 32nd century-set Starfleet Academy show happening that they should somehow incorporate the footage from the 1997 game of the same name that featured William Shatner as Captain Kirk giving the Academy's 2288 Command College cadets that incredibly stirring speech. In the very first episode of Enterprise they used archive footage (albeit newly recorded for the episode) of Zefram Cochrane giving a speech prior to the launch of NX-01 so there is precedent. I'd be happy enough with that. I don't need for Kirk to be resurrected but I won't be upset if he is.
i do want kirk back.. but i want kirk back to go down on his ship as intended instead of that whole.. Bridge falling thing...
Only need one way, a click of Q's fingers.
Very true. But why would he do that?
@@Guyofscience Because he's bored.
Or Trilane
@@lesliepark728, or Gary MITCHELL??? 😉
Clone using Sings technology
They forget that Riker got Transporter cloned and his other self hijacked the Deffiant to go after Cardassians. Just go back in time remove the patch on the transporter that fixed the issue that reulted in a copy being made and copy Kirk just before he dies. Then decide who dies (because someone has to) It's either the OG that dies or the copy dies. And it's all made possible due to either a stellar phenomena like that wormhole Janeway encounered that she communicated with a Romulan ship in the past or someone like Q.
Great idea,.
"5 ways Star Trek could undo Kirk's BS death in Generations:"
Okay here's my idea: A massive machine arrives, from a planet of Kirks, and they need to go back in time and get a Kirk from before they went extinct to communicate with it-
Wait...
"If you eliminate the impossible; whatever remains, however improbabale, must be the truth." - Spock
Sherlock Holmes actually!😅
@@rickyevans2697 An ancestor of Spock said that too maybe there related
*Sighs* ... "Somehow.... Admiral Kirk returned...."
I like these books, and I also like the fact that you get the bump into Tiberius from the mirror universe
Harriman could help Picard...but only on Tuesday.
Bahahahahhahahahaha
i was gonna post the same thing.
"There are always possibilities."
Kirk always survives if he gets his shirt ripped in a fist fight. Temporal agents, you know what to do...
The horsey is going to bite you now.
Glad you mentioned "The Return", still have a hardcover copy.
Cyborg Zombie Kirk in 2036 for the 70th anniversary special 😂
Just imagine AI Kirk:
"Oh the irony! I used to talk computers to death but now that I'm dead I'm a computer!"
2:20 I think Trelane was Q Jr. from Voyager, when he was in timeout!
there is Beta Canon Story with that concept that tried to connect the Dots
Considering Trelane is pretty much in the same tier of species as the Q, it might be interesting to have Q give Trelane the idea about having a human friend...cue Kirk...
Trelane may be a Q but he isn't Q's son...
@@havok6280 He may or may not be a Q, we don't know that for sure there.
There's nothing to stop Kirk from leaving the Nexus at a later point. Then returning for Picard to find. Essentially having Kirk stuck in the Nexus for a few weeks, rather than decades.
This would be a good way to have him cameo in an episode of a TV show, or even a movie. Yet keep the timeline intact.
I loved the film. But I also count it as a sendoff, not a resurrection.
Although I can't explain why his body was taken to a research facility. Kirk's remains being repatriated wouldn't be that out of the ordinary, although I doubt it will be as fanciful as Horatio Nelson been brought back in a barrel of wine after Trafalgar.
I think I'm probably on fairly safe ground when I say: "the fans want to see Shatner do 'one last hurrah' as Kirk". It doesn't have to make sense...just bring him back and work out the details afterwards!
Would be awesome to see an "All good things" sendoff
why would we assume kirk is too high profile? In cannon the DS9 crew didnt even know what Kirk looked like during the Trouble with Tribbles bar scene.
I'm just happy that Matallas opened the door for this to happen.
Even if he doesn't return, return. It's still possible that it opens up a whole new chapter in Trek.
🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖
One other way to bring back Kirk would be the same way they brought Kahless back in Next Generation. They make a clone body and imprint memories into his mind. It's not the trukirk, but with the amount of information they have on her concluding his exploits, personal logs, and statements by people who knew him, he could be very convincing.
I think Kirk was resurrected in this Unification short, due to perhaps Gary Mitchell's involvement, the Kirk Easter egg in Picard Season 3 (due to Picard Season 3 showrunner Terry Matalas saying he was unhappy with Kirk's death in "Generations") and the multiple medical monitors shown in other online OTOY footage. Terry Matalas said he hoped that other Star Trek writers/creators would pick up on the Kirk Easter egg from Picard Season 3 and I think this is what OTOY has done.
Also, there's no reason why Kirk couldn't be resurrected, since he is not the only major Star Trek character that would have been resurrected. Obviously we know that Spock was resurrected once, but Scotty was also resurrected (after being killed in TOS episode "The Changeling", in which the robot Nomad kills Scotty and Kirk orders Nomad to "repair" (resurrect) Scotty, which Nomad DOES). Also, Dr. McCoy was resurrected in TOS episode "Shore Leave" after he was killed by a knight. Somehow the planet revived McCoy before the end of the episode.
The easiest way to bring back Kirk is also the most devastating to Star Trek canon: Kirk never left the Nexus.
When Picard convinced Kirk to leave the Nexus, they basically wished their way out. That actually makes no sense, since the Nexus has already left the planet. So, "wishing" their way out would require not only a flexing of the flytrap nature of the Nexus and the idea that a part of you will always be there, but also time travel to return the Nexus to a point before the star torpedo was launched. It makes more sense that the Nexus just gave them what they wanted -- saving the Enterprise D crew, a satisfying end to Kirk's adventures, etc. -- as an in-Nexus fantasy. Since it is what they wanted, they bought into it, but it is just a fake fantasy and they are both stuck in the flytrap in perpetual stasis. This would mean that Kirk is alive, even though he thinks he is dead.
If this is the case, everything in Picard's timeline post-Generations never happened. The Enterprise crew would be dead, the Enterprise D would be completely destroyed, and Seven of Nine would have never met up with Picard. This idea, if a writer is brave enough to do this, would allow for a complete reset of the Picard Era. Due to the ramification of this, it is unlikely to happen, but imagine the stories that can be told if someone was brave enough to go with it.
When it comes to kirk returning, maybe an early years spin off of stranger new worlds could work, with kirk taking command of the enterprise and basically ending going into his first on screen mission, maybe even just have it as a one off series, where kirk grows into the role left by pike and gaining the trust and friendship of a crew who lost someone they care about. I think that would be a nice way to have more kirk but not mess with his actual death (as doing that to many times in a franchise cheapens things, unless you do what stargate did but I don't think that fits the tone of star trek).
After the TOS movies, we got TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise. Every new show with amazing new and loveable characters. It's kinda sad that we are now so stuck in the "past" in Star Trek and talk more about Kirk, Pike (in SNW) and Picard instead of a new show and crew. Fan service is nice, but if a franchise is stuck in fan service and dosen't move forward, could become a problem. It would have been nice, if we would have gotten a new show with a new crew on the Enterprise-F.
His character can return, but not the man himself.
It'd be like bringing back Clint as Dirty Harry for one last send off...
That ship sailed long ago.
While it'd be great for him to have one last adventure, to go out in a better way. This was a great send off, should be cannon, and we should leave Kirk to our memories.
i think the nexus echo's would be nice more as a way short appearance to interact with a character they'd never had the chance to. Like Bomlier and Sulu did
I agree, leaving Kirk's character where Ron Roddenburry, Otoy, William Shatner and the Nimoy family have gently rejoined them is best. 🖖
The rock pile on Viridian III is actually a transporter buffer
I like The Return book.
Is it good? I have it on Spotify, haven't got around to it yet.
ok one thing that everyone is missing - the plants on the planet that Kirk was revived on ! at 2:42 and onwards kirk is seen walking though what looks like a garden ! some therioze this is the Starfleet Command / Academy cortyard in san francisco or the cave where the Genisis device chemicals were first tested ............. the Genesis stage II on the Regula planetoid or apart of Romuls or Valcan but it seems to me where he walks and meets with the Kelvin-universe alien (Yor) this planet i belive is the OG Lesure planet ! as it had been stated that the Lesure planet could bring people back from the dead ! Sulu and Mcoy were 2 of these people ! the Lesure planet also called Shore Leave Planet see the Enterprise crew were seriously injured (at the time, they were believed killed). When this happened, the injured were taken to the complex below, where their injuries were repaired. i belive this is how kirk is brought Back ! via the Lesure planet also called Shore Leave Planet 's technology to be able to regenerate those who died or was as they say injured ! this Tech would bring kirk back ! makes a lot of sense if ya think about it . :)
If the bosses behind Star Trek would want to bring Kirk back in some capacity, I think cloning could be an option.
Also they might pull a Batman Beyond thing. So in the epilog to JLU it is revealed that Bruce Wayne's DNA was used to create Terry. That makes him kinda his son. I know that wouldn't revive Kirk but could keep his lineage alive.
Im not gonna lie, I would love a few animated specials set in the Shatnerverse, the first two or three arent bad but after that holy shit do they go off the rails. The man makes himself somehow the TWO most important people in the universe.
I've imagined Picard holding a dying Kirk, Hearing horses galloping, Shocked he looks up at the sky as the Nexus passes over, When he looks back down at Kirk he's died, He gets a small smile on his face as he again looks up as the Nexus finally fades from sight. That's the concept of a finish I would have loved to see. Kinda like his reaction to seeing B-4 trying to sing Blue Skies
5 ways Jeb could still win
Oh, the guy that played star killer in the Star Wars, place Kirk’s double in the fan made film? Sweet.
They did need McCoy back, because it was really a trio act.
Trelaine's "Parents" finally end his grounding from TOS shortly after Picard Season 3 on the promise he behaves himself...... he then breaks that promise to find the Enterprise to get back at Kirk for ruining his fun (he didn't learn much from being grounded). He find the Enterprise A at the fleet museum appearing on the bridge, then going from there to the B (giving a hint at it's location at present day), then D and the E (learning it was Worf's fault for it's loss) until he appears on the G encountering Captain Seven.
In a childish fit he demands the location of Kirk until he learns how to invade the ships computer and finds a personal log of mention of Kirk at the Daystum Station. He then brings the stasis chamber with his powers and revives Kirk so he can finally make Kirk pay for making him sit in a corner for over a century.
But I do agree that Star Trek needs to move beyond Kirk and focus on making new characters that can stand alongside his and other classic character legacies.
let william shatner write another novel
Somehow Kirk has returned.........
Maybe the Daysrom Institute kept Kirk's body so they could dress it up in different outfits and play with him like a life size doll and pretend they are going on missions with him ?
You cannot bring back Kirk electronically as a computer or an Android. All he needs to do is ask himself the question, "Why?" And he would short circuit whatever system he was in.
Unification does set up a nice way of brining Prime Kirk into the Kelvin-Verse, now what exactly he would do there outside of visiting his dying friend who knows considering he would have no knowledge of the universe he is in.
A shatner cameo in the next kelvin movie where kirk and kirk have a chat. Nothing but a simple prologue to the movie and some emotional dialog.
The character has been done literally to death.
And the actor, the only serious portrayal of Kirk, is almost 100.
Like TNG, VOY, DS9 etc etc (etc etc) - there are infinite new and expensive new stories to tell, and characters to discover
Let Kirk go
I don't think the Nexus option is viable. My interpretation of what Guinan said about leaving a piece behind was because she didn't leave willingly. The Enterprise-B beamed her and other survivors out. Kirk left willingly. So... its entirely possible that he didn't leave a piece behind.
But with all the Timey Wimey stuff with the Nexus... who knows what is possible with that ribbon involved.
1: parallel kirk shows up
2: time travel kirk shows up
3: transporter clone kirk shows up
4: nexus ribbon spits out another kirk avatar because time / causality dont work there
5: regular kirk is resurrected by a particularly long spool of starfleet medical technobable
6: holodeck malfunction
7: magical super entity wills him back into existence
8: the kirk who died in generations was a rouge changeling infiltrator - not affiliated with dominion. Therefore kirk never left.
9: section 31 makes a positronic android replicant of kirk.
10: the ferengi alliance, or some other misguided but technologically capable faction, make a regular biological kirk clone coded with kirks memories to think of himself and behave as captain kirk (ala 24th century kahless)
11: same as above only using replicators this time.
12: starfleet vessels are issued with emergency holograms to replace fallen crew members. Emergency command holograms can take the form of kirk.
Any 5 of the above? 🤔
I was recently watching Dominic Keating and Connor Trineer's podcast with Rick Berman. He mentions that Shatner and/or his people reached out to Berman for a spot on, errr, I think it was for Enterprise. But his price tag was just too much. By an order of magnitude, it seemed.
I think that'll (sadly) be the largest hurtle to seeing the man himself come back.
I would like to believe that "Shatner’s" Kirk has indeed been bought back for one last save the "Universe", the story goes that the Kelvin timeline is about to implode and cause catastrophic consequences for the prime timeline and all other timelines that exist, the "Q" are at war with each other and this causes a massive headache for everyone, so Gary steps in and with the help of many others they raid the Daystrom institute for Kirk's body, then Gary enters the Nexus and persuades Kirk to leave, he knows this is a one way ticket to say goodbye to Spock before going on his final and last ever mission, that is to help the "Kelvin verse" Enterprise and her crew to effectively close the "Kelvin timeline" for good, this results in "Shatner's" Kirk saving the universe at his expense, this time he dies a dignified death as the captain of the Enterprise-A by dying on the bridge and not under one, there is a massive explosion in space time and then we see a beautiful sunset over the "Genesis planet" with Kirk saying his last words, this is the end of both the original Kirk and the Kelvin timeline as we say goodbye and farewell for the last time.
Best way to "bring him back" is with another Kelvinverse film or even better, a continuation of the Original Series with the SNW Kirk and cast.
here is the simple answer. Per another video, Spock pulls him from the nexus. Why - to team up with Janeway-Sisco-Picard and Archer to fight some space destroying menace, How- CGI.
Kirk has come back in Strange New Worlds though
I would like to see a Harrimen/Picard team up video
Reading the title, the words "Holodeck simulation" come to mind. 🤔
We don't need another Enterprise Finale situation.
not familia with how kirk came back in his book but it would be awesome to see kirk deserve a better send off then he did in generation
I only have one question one thing that I noticed when they showed a scan of Kirks skeleton in the archive. I noticed that the body seemed to be in really good condition, none of the bones seem to be out of place or appear out of place,so I’m wondering if they had repaired his body when they beamed it from the planets surface onto whatever ship took it? Or what,because when he fell down the canyon and that metal bridge wrapped around him is what actually caused his death, his body should’ve been or at least his rib cage should’ve been in many different pieces just an observation.😅
No no no no no, I know people want this but this sounds like something a studio would mess up royally
harriman wouldn't land there until next tuesday if he tried to help picard
Kirk is already the worst violator of the temporal time directive. What's one more violation?
Well since as you call the Kelvin timeline as already altered the future , in that Star Trek universe .I like Abrams universe instead , but everything has changed and altered enough .That all the mainstream events , could not happen there Ric .Plus like Vulcan is no longer there .And it would hard to know if Kirk and Picard would ever meet in the Kelvin timeline at all , maybe he just different ending in that timeline as well .
Kirk... no. I need Trip, in cannon.
Kirk... yes. And you do realize it is possible to do both right? And it's "canon".
Anthology series is the hook to Star Trek. Episodes follow format not canon. "The Omega Glory" is a case of alternate canon. The uniforms have alternate badges, unlikely as it is the plot resolves to US iconography. Many alternate canon episodes are hallmarks of Star Trek. Any story can be told under anthology rules. Just has to fit format. Warp drive, transporter, likeable cast, imaginative story.
Gene Roddenberry explicitly told writers not to corner the show into formula. The networks, and studio urge for formula as a cost cutting measure. The cost of formula to story, and imagination are staggering.
Didn't Gary Mitchell just bring back Kirk? I thought that's what the first 5 seconds were for.
its all in the section 31 storehouse. we have a genesis device to regenerate. we have multiple forms of mind reading and transference tech. and what if the tech didnt work as well as we would hope... jim kirk denny crane style. "denny crane denny crane i once captained my own spaceship!"
simple kirk never died, it's far too strange to have this rando grave on a rando world
no that was for show to keep everybody QUIET , kirk went to work for section 31 but also reunited on short ocasions with spock and scotty
mabe dropped in for bones's final moment aswell
Fixed point in time means it won't work well on screen.
Let the man rest in peace.
The chronology of the series places it in the PRIME timeline? Yeah, the PRIME timeline in a completely different UNIVERSE where Pike, Kirk, Spock, and other legacy characters have different faces to the Pike, Kirk Spock, and other legacy characters, played by Jeffrey Hunter, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy et al, you know the PRIME Universe we were taken back to in Star Trek Picard? So why even MENTION an alternate UNIVERSE Kirk that has nothing to do with Shatner's PRIME Universe version?
FEAR THE KOALA
I think SNW's is all ready in an altered timeline rather than Prime... than again the Lower Decks cross over confirms SNW is Prime since Lower Decks history isn't altered that much? Ugh, I hate Temporal Mechanics in Star Trek at times lol
What about bring Kirk from the Mirror universe?
SPACE!!!
Narada Incursion/Timeline.
If I could dance like that, I'd be writing this comment right now from some party😚
My brother and I who saw Generations in the theater had a strange idea back in the 90's. Did Kirk and Picard actually ever leave the Nexus in the first place? Seeing you could go anywhere you want too. Why wouldn't you just go back in time to when they had Dr Soren at the array or something, instead of moments before he launched his missal. I realized its because "the movie" but seriously of all the dumb things Star Trek has ever introduced, the nexus is one of the worst.
And the person to android spinning doubling machine ala ToS.
Could it happen? Sure.
Should it happen? No.
The bad way it played out in Generations doesn't mean he should be dredged back up and dangled in front of people like hollywood has been doing with everything else lately. The fan film was enough. He got his rightful sendoff. Let dead characters stay dead.
SCIENCE!!!
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Just let the man die already
No offense, but no one really asked you.
*Algorithm Cookie* 🍪
"Unification" was disgusting enough already...
Isn't the Unification video out of canon given that Spock never died in the Prime timeline but died in the Kelvin timeline?
The Kelvin timeline is fan-fiction. Nothing past 2009 counts... except Picard S3. You're welcome :)
Unification shows Kirk being transferred to the Kelvin time line to New Vulcan to be with Spock.
The guy in the TNG era uniform who gave Kirk his badge is Yor, established in Discovery to be a Temporal Cold War time agent from the 24th century of the Kelvin Universe. As such, he has the ability to transfer the now somehow Return to the land of the living Kirk through time and space to reunite with Spock in the Kelvin universe before his death.
@@km91420 oh look, another Troll that want's to play Gatekeeper and even has less arguments then real ones
do you even watched any of Star Trek?
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There is no Trek after Enterprise. Split everything else into alternate timelines if you must, but don't taint real Trek.
I think the world has had enough of Shatner's toxic ego. I would be ok with a long lost relative of Kirk's, but not a reprisal of the role.
Shatner is a lovely guy
@@067Azazel Tell that to anyone who has worked with him.
@ I met him, I guess I didn’t work with him though.. Think show business has to be a double edged sword tho fer sure as the loudest voices are always the angriest!
@@Lukos0036oh boo hoo. A couple of 3rd rate actors and a mincing hetro hater are not reliable narrators. Jealousy is a terrible thing.
Kurtzman Trek, aka Discovery/Strange New Worlds, is as much an alternate universe as JAR JAR Trek. If they don't have the face of Jeffrey Hunter, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForrest Kelley, James Doohan, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and Walter Koenig, what ELSE could it be????
still spellt Rick Berman wrong
Yay more member berries from a creatively bankrupt franchise!
It's a fan film, not an official production.
The graphics of this game are soooo bad now
It sure seems that most of us liked the new TOS video more than you did and that colors your thinking. Strange.
I mean if Palpatine can return somehow then surely Kirk can.
Let him rest.
Please don't give them ideas
well, as Gatekeeper that only can repeat 3 phrases, i guess you allergic to ideas
No, Star Trek doesn't need to MCU characters back to life.
Star Trek became a MESS!
Waking up in a shower...
Waking up beside a hot green chic...
Waking up beside a hot blue chic....