Thirteen (2003) or What It's Like To Be A Teenage Girl
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Thirteen (2003) starring Nikki Reed and Evan Rachel Wood is a cult classic film that messed me up when I first saw it. Catherine Hardwicke, together with her blue filter, offers an honest and brutal look at what it’s like to be a teenage girl.
Timestamps:
0:00 - How did the movie come to be?
1:52 - Family Chaos
3:24 - Codependent female friendship and adolescent pressures
5:54 - Mothers and Daughters
Music:
1) Where Shall We Dine by Letter Box
2) Marrionette by Letter Box
3) The Woods by Silent Partner 
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This movie did such a beautiful job depicting the turbulence of teen girl life. I tried to watch Euphoria and it just seemed like an overly- glamorized caricature in comparison to Thirteen. I feel like that is largely due to the fact that Thirteen partially written and produced BY a teen girl (who also starred in it). Whereas Euphoria has a 35 year-old dude producing a show that unrealistically depicts the teen experience.
I feel exactly the same way about Euphoria. Sam Levinson creeps me out and I can't believe there are so many people that are ready to jump to his and show's defense when people voice criticism.
@@antiheroines-you-love RIGHT!! Like, his entire obsession/preoccupation with the sexuality of girl minors is voyeuristic and perverse. He claims Euphoria is semi-autobiographical yet uses 16 year old girls as vehicles for his "experiences". Just creepy yo!
@@antiheroines-you-love I agree. I think the show is interesting but they messed up when they placed it in HighSchool. People would still watch it if it was set in college where it’s not very different
The set of Euphoria is gonna be one of those that will get exposed by an actress or actresses that appeared on the show, as a place where shady things went on. Just wait.
@@antiheroines-you-love yeah so true
I love how you pointed all of evie's problems and traumas, because people tend to ignore it and just consider her evil and mean
I actually feel bad for evie and Tracy because they both have several problems and parents and a tutor who just dont care about them at least Tracys mom kind of tries tough.
well evie does have many problems but it doesn't really excuse her being mean
There was no proof of her accusations is the problem. She keeps changing her story about who Brooke is. Her aunt, her cousin. She said her mom passed away and later nonchalantly says “my mother was a crack whore”.
excuse isn't the same as reason. no one here is excusing her behavior
ofc she had her troubles, but she exploited those problems (knowing that anyone will feel bad for her) onto tracy's mom to adopt her.
Thirteen was criticised for being “unrealistic” but my god, it was an exact depiction of my early teen years. When Tracy’s mum found out she cut herself, that exact same situation happened with me.
It was also a very realistic movie to me as a teen girl when it came out.
Agreed I always thought that those who thought it was "unrealistic" NEVER knew 13yro girl (specifically in USA). I personally knew MANY (fellow) females who had similarly harrowing stories...told to me from cousins, mates/friends & random wasted party goers about those dangerous/delicate ages of 12-14 yrs. I found it SO realistic that I've recommended this movie to MULTIPLE single parents of pre-teen girls (Kk mostly males, but not all) to help them be prepared for what they might be in for.
Realistic as in EVERYTHING - cutting, sex, drugs, lies, manipulation, co-dependence, protector/user relationship, blurred lines of love...ALL OF IT!!!!!
CLEARLY not always this way but SHOCKING how much of this happens at this EXACT age.
Watching Thirteen was a mix of complete nostalgia "ha I did that!" and a "no waaay 13 year olds actually do that" while completely ignoring that I probably wouldn't have belived 13 y/o did what I did either if I hadn't already done it.
I think its more accurate to late teenage years rather than early like 13
yall need help. Wtf
The ending is so underrated and people diss it but the merry-go-round scene is the cherry on top and it feels so real somehow
I personally loved it. It keeps it very open-ended and of course I want to know more, but it's a snapshot of a difficult and confusing time in Tracy's life. The ending perfectly captures that time as a teen when you feel like life is moving forward too fast for your brain to even comprehend-- you're still mentally a child, but the rest of you and the people in your circle are suddenly acting years older. The consequences of your choices are suddenly much harsher than you were experiencing maybe even just a year beforehand, and you're hormonally and emotionally unable to cope with these situations. When I was thirteen I didn't go through anything close to what Tracy went through, but I definitely went through similar emotions and outbursts. Fantastic, beautiful, ugly, and quite bittersweet movie.
@@yespls4184 i never thought of it like that, thanks for the emphasis
I never understood the point of it
The part of "You don't know if you want to be like them, date them or kill them" is so real, it happened to me with some friendships as a child, is so intense that you don't really know what you feel, you love them but as a child you don't have the knowledge to know what type of love it is, it seems like is all of them. As a child especially, the feeling of ownership of you friends, like you belog toghether to a different world, and if they leave you, you don't wan't to go on anymore. Codependecy is scary.
It is, I'm still learning how to put boundaries and not lose myself in all sorts of friendships and relationships.
this comment feels so honest, that's exactly how I've felt.
Yeah I totally agree. Especially as a bisexual women (who definitely didn't understand her bisexuality at this age, and didn't even come to terms with it until recently), this quote really rings true. Now looking back, it's sometimes confusing (even now as a 30 year old), if I wanted to be like them, or want them to be my friend, or if it was sometimes something more. These kinds of tumultuous friendships young girls have can be so confusing!
this comment is so real, although I have not been so codependent before I can almost feel it, because at a time when I was younger my friends were all that mattered to me outside of my inner world.
That’s how I feel about my bsf 😭
I’m honestly shocked there’s not MORE commentary on this gem of a movie. As a kid growing up in LA, Thirteen hit me like a truck the first time I watched it (around 15) because I WAS a lot like Tracy and was falling into friend groups like Evie’s around that age, though luckily I never got into anything nearly as damaging as Tracy did. But it served as this haunting cautionary tale and I felt so seen knowing these experiences are more universal than I originally realized.
"Thirteen" scared me 😩
Totally agree! I live and grew up in Europe but still my girl teenage years and experiences were soooo similar to Tracy's.
realest thing said. unfortunately i got into all the toxic friendships, manipulation, self harm, codependency, and weird sexual relationships when i was 10 and lasting for 7 years and this movie really resonated teenage girlhood for me. im glad i never got into smoking or drinking but 13 was a mix of nostalgia, disgust, and sadness.
This film always hit hard, I knew kids as young as 11 trying to replicate this kinda life (not because they knew or saw the movie) but because it is just a bunch of broken kids trying to be "adult" in the most immature way possible
As one of those kids, it wasn’t about replicating being an adult, it was that you are forced to be an adult against your will. So with perfect teen logic you think that if you have to deal with all these adult things, you might as well enjoy the ‘perks’ like drinking etc. I enjoyed this movie as a teen but found it slightly unrelatable. Me and my friends laughed at it actually, the students who lived pretty stable lives and didn’t drink or smoke etc. were the ones who thought it made sooo much sense. They had it all figured out and were so superior for it, cos they watched a movie. It was laughable stupid.
Talking to other kids who lived these stable lives was like talking to an alien, they couldn’t grasp anything you said, it was so entirely outside of their experiences and personal life bubble. They don’t get you at all, or they find your experience so horrifying that it makes you feel like a freak. I think that’s why it’s easier to gravitate towards other ‘damaged’ kids, they get you.
Feeling very different and strange from everyone else imbues a person with a certain amount of rage, and it also makes it difficult to talk to other people. Thus, the drinking and so on. It’s like a badge: okay you drink, I drink, now we can cry and have deep chats without it being a freak show sitch. Difficult to explain. The movie did a pretty good job given the difficulty of the subject matter. Nowadays I think of it as externalizing internal pain as a form of flag for other ‘safe’ kids who will understand and empathize with your damage, rather than the ‘unsafe’ ‘normal’ kids who won’t understand and might even mock you. I mean you have to wonder who the real mean girls are in that sitch, the ones who are trying to find coping mechanisms where they can (and who largely want to be left alone) or the kids who mock them for being and feeling different?
that's the only way a kid who lost their innocence can be an adult. they were broken by broken adults so that becomes their idea of what adult means.
I had a toxic friendship like the one in the film from ages 13-20. She was bisexual and I'm straight. She was thin and had sexual experience and I was chubby and had none. Those things definitely played parts in what we both saw the friendship as. There was absolutely love, jealousy, and hatred all rolled into one relationship.
Same thing happened to me too and trust me, it’s sucks 😢
From when I was 12-17, I had a similar experience. He was my gay best friend and I was nearing towards a bisexual female. I had boyfriends, he hated all of them. He would always tell me and them why they didn't deserve me. I was young and have seen mental abuse my whole life. We had experiences that i'm sure would be considered assault and physical abuse as a child, so when I met other friends outside our cloud they all were adamant about him being toxic. The real kicker now is, they all dropped me because I was the one being toxic for telling him I was done. I'm better off, but this commentary on a codependent relationship is absolutely real.
P.S. I hope you are taking care of yourself, because it's hard getting out of a situation like that when you are so young and just seeing the world and people around you without the rose tinted glasses, the substances, the immediate, instant gratification. I wish nothing but the best to you.
i watched this movie last year (2021) when i was 12. my friend group (at the time) and me all thought this movie was goals. we literally changed our selves so badly, we stole (i never did though cause i was scared), vaped, and wore very sexualized outfits. it was soo good and i would literally love this movie with my heart until well, august 2021. my school principal called me up because i had been vaping, and all the other girls in my friendgroup betrayed my trust and told them that they never did and it was all me. i was heartbroken. my parents were so mad at me, grounded me for 2 months and took all my devices. none of them ever talked to me again, this year (most 13 some 14) they have been doing weed and drinking large bottles of alcohol. honestly i am kinda glad i got caught, now that im 13 i would never do any of the stuff they are doing now, and my grades have increased SOO much.
im so proud of you! its infuriating they betrayed you and i hope you found way better friends
Proud of you, kid. You stopped before things got worse for you. Maybe they betrayed you but it worked in your favor instead of theirs. I hope now you've made some friends with good people
So proud of you! I know it's a year Katerina but I hope you're Stull doubt well.. younger me is smiling and rooting for you 🎉🎉🎉🎉
It's one of those moments you see a blessing in disguise. I'm happy you got out.
Good for you girl, keep going with the straight path. Those people aren't worth it
Thank you for having sympathy towards Evie! She is literally just an abused kid that wanted to be love. Yes she did a lot of fucked up things but at the end she’s a child that has no one to guide her
the part about not knowing whether you want to be with your best friend, be your best friend or kill your best friend was soooo accurate. I had a middleschool friendship that was very intense and unstable and I related so hard to this.
no literally i felt that
Me too, the last time i saw her was 11 years ago. I found her on instagram and DM‘d her. She replied but after a couple of Messages back and forth, she stopped. Things will never be the same…
Honestly I was always jealous of the ending, I wish my mom cared like Mel
as a teen boy with a weird history with sh and eating problems, thirteen was a surprisingly relatable watch and i absolutely love your analysis of the film
agreed
i love you, and i hope that ur ok
This movie made me feel so seen when I younger. There were girls in my class acting this way before I was even 12, much less 13 and they really did seem so cool to my preteen mind. It actually served as a cautionary tale for me because the ending scared me straight a little and my teenage years were thankfully quite boring (minus the constant anxiety). 😅😅
The movie made me so grateful that at 13 years old my brain was basically nothing more than a vegetable and that guys and clothes didn’t become interesting until I was 16
Yes, me too, but the angry and codepended friendship phase still got me. 😂
ma’am same
I loved this commentary on the movie, it is unbiased of any characters and explains different points of view that you can’t always spot on the first try like evie looking for a mother figure I like how in this commentary you didn’t paint her to be a bad person or any character for that matter.
Thank you! I really wanted to talk about Evie and that she's not just "a bad influence girl".
literally my cult movie back from when I, myself, was 13-14
same, except i am 15 right now and finally getting out of that but also not really but i dont know
I saw this in the theaters when I was actually 13/14 years old. It was such an eye opening piece of film. Open myself up to indie film making
I don't understand how so many people don't know about this movie. I don't even remember how I found it but I've loved it ever since I saw it.
When I was 15 (I'm 20) I went through something similar. I ran out of friends and started hanging out with a group of guys who drank a lot of alcohol and went out partying. I did those things but every now and then. But I did it with them every day. It was a group of boys and girls, we kissed each other.
Until one day something opened my eyes. It was nothing new, but this time it hit me hard. I realized that these guys had no aspirations or dreams. Their parents did not pay attention to them, they did not think about any future, most of them had suicidal thoughts, we missed a lot of school to be drunk or drugged. I realized that these people were not what I wanted to be, so I decided not to talk to them anymore and luckily I did not fall into that black hole again.
It should be clarified that my mother never knew about all this. Once you start managing yourself, it's so easy to lie and manipulate. This movie is very good, very real.
It's nice that you realised everything yourself.
This quite a cruel comment. I don’t think you mean it to be or anything but other peoples lives aren’t your cautionary tale of survival. The judgmental attitude and lack of empathy towards other peoples struggles isn’t very nice.
That being said I’m very happy for you if you got out of a situation that wasn’t good for you- not sarcastic, I really am glad for you.
@@kmhkennedy just because they had awful lives as teenagers it doesn't mean that i should stay with them or help them or loved them no matter what. It was not a good place for my mental health and even if they were good people, i stay away from them for my own good. I wish them the best honestly, i hope they are in a good place right now. I have empathy for them and i understand that it was not even their fault (their lives) but that doesn't mean that i couldn't stay away. I didn't said anything bad about them, i just said my reasons of why i leave
@@blue______ hi. I didn’t say you had to stay around them or anything like that. I’m glad you left if you were mentally struggling (or if you just wanted to leave). I just said the comment comes across as mean. The wording, if perhaps not the intention behind it. Saying a group of people ALL had no aspirations or dream is pretty harsh. Listing off their suicidal thoughts as though it was some kind of personal failing of theirs, is pretty harsh.
Perhaps their way of thinking didn’t just didn’t align to yours, or maybe you couldn’t understand it. As you say, your mental health was not strong, so maybe you weren’t in a place to hear others. That’s totally fine. Nothing wrong with that at all. Your comment just sounds a touch judgmental to me. It’s not a huge deal. Just as one of those lost kids during my teen years I was vaguely offended and didn’t want anyone else living in a similar space in the present to read your comment and feel bad.
I don’t want you to feel bad either, it’s really not a negative that you put your mental health first or that you left a comment about it. ☺️
@@kmhkennedy i don’t think the commenter meant to group it all in the same sentence. i’ve hung around similar people i’ve since cut off that i can also say had no dreams or aspirations when i was hanging out with them - most were high school dropouts and had no motivation to do anything, spoke about it openly, and more. you can’t assume without knowing commenters whole story, and they only told it in brief.
i watched thirteen at the height of my battle with self harm, and seeing someone else experience that kind of pain you have to have to hurt yourself meant a lot to me. i felt seen.
i’m 15 now and I watched this movie when i was 14. when i watched it i felt like i was understood and seen. i had never seen a movie that shows all the things they go through in such a realistic manner. it really did feel like you were in the movie. i haven’t done anything as bad as them but when i was 13, i really felt the way tracy feels so left out and just wants to fit in. this movie is amazing and shows a teenagers life so real.
i watched this movie recently (i’m 20) and i still relate to several parts of it. not only does it outline female teenhood perfectly, it’s a great explanation on mental health
agreed!
@@cutiedopo17lots of females don’t go through this, well not in Uk at least. People in comments are making it out that everyone go through this but n it’s not as much as people are making out. No offence
I’m very surprised how many people can’t relate to this film. Even if it wasn’t your own experience, if you went to a public school and ever picked up your head and looked around it was obvious that someonewas living a life similar to Evie.
I remember the first time watching this movie as a teenager from Germany and while I grew up in a city life was still VERY different for me of course.
Some things still resonated with me and it reminded me of the "Kinder von Bahnhof Zoo" movie which is about teenage drug addicts in Berlin in the 70s and 80s.
Ooohh, I remember people talking about this movie when I was in my early teens. I think I saw some bits and pieces but I never watched it fully.
i’m not german, i’m french, but i’ve read christiane f’s book and it’s way harsher and raw than thirteen, especially if you think that “Wir Kinder von Bahnof zoo” was fully inspired by a poor 14 years old girl and thirteen is partly made up but still loosely based on a 13 years old’s experience. i don’t think you can actually compare them, they’re bot great yet raw movies but they also are pretty different from each other.
Just want to say thank you so much for this comment, I'd been looking for this movie for years and I was finally able to find it thanks to you!
I agree with everything you said! I am also the first to yell gay at my TV screen but always took Evie and Tracy's relationship as mostly codependent and just super intense. I don't think Evie is the villain, she's just a broken girl looking for a home.
This movie came out when i was 11-12 (I’m 29 next month) & it impacted my life in a way I never expected it to ever. I self harmed very early, so when I saw Tracy do the same it was very relatable to me. Especially as a child who’s parents were going through a separation, and I was hitting puberty hard. Grateful it exists.
From a teenager herself, this film still holds up. Especially the parts discussing s3xuality and dr ug use. Even with social media and more normalising of it, I do think people are sometimes shocked. I feel ashamed to say this, but I used to be a bit of a Tracey, I mean I get why she wanted to be popular and all that jazz. And with her morbidity at the beginning and the fact she was still harming herself before she even met Evie is also quite true for real life. I can see why she glamourised Evie, her life looked so perfect, she had loads of 'freinds', boys liked her. I can see why she saw it was a way out and got involved. It really still holds up.
this is coming from a year8's (american grade 7) point of view.
i feel like i can truly relate to both evie and tracy in certain ways. i’ve always been sexualized and exposed to alcohol and smoking etc since a very young age like evie, but i’ve also always wanted to fit in more and changed myself for pretty much anyone like tracy, i’ve also had a loosely similar experience with drugs and shoplifting as well. whenever i see stealing related tiktoks i literally want to smash my phone, i mean it’s illegal and dangerous but lots of young kids are getting into it and its addictive, bruh thats not cool
Lol my teenage years were so different from this that I really cant relate to the movie at all...I think I relate more to Bo Burnham's "8th grade", even though not 100%, I was born in 1997
97 baby too, I think people mostly relate to this type of intense friendship, not necessarily to all the illegal stuff. 8th grade is a good movie indeed but I felt like it was made for today's teens.
I recommend the TV show pen15
I finished it last month, amazing show! Makes you laugh, cry and cringe
@@antiheroines-you-love I dont feel like it was made for today's teens. I think "The edge of seventeen, and Perks of being a wallflower" are closer.
8th grade only really relates to 13 year olds in 2018. Not 16+ in 2018
'What it's like to be a teenage girl' mmh... I think Thirteen applies only to extreme cases, it's so bold, aggresive and dark.. (And I come from a bold, aggresive and dark teenagehood, but even for me this movie was extreme)
I watched that movie in my most depressing and suicidal phase at 14 when depression got romanticed by everything and everyone.
And for once, I felt understood. Because its not a pretty movie. There are no pretty scenes. It's just raw of what can lead to a downfall of a 13 year old girl.
To this day one of my favorite movies
This is such a gem of a channel.
"Clearly doctor you've never been a 13 year old girl"
I’m 17 now but when I was 13 my life was nothing like this. I grew up in private school. If I had watched skins, thirteen, or euphoria when I was 13 instead of 17 I’d probably want to be how they are. Even at 17 almost 18 I kinda want to be like that. I long to go back to when I was a kid everyday and make my life more interesting like they did in the movie. However, I know that lifestyle is bad especially to someone so young. At 17 I haven’t done even half the things they have. Even now I wish I could live my teen life irresponsibly like they do in skins, thirteen, and euphoria. I know I’ll look back in 10 years and want to be 17 again and wish I had enjoyed it, but I can’t help but feel I’ve wasted my teens by staying inside all day and not having enough connections to do the things they do.
im 15 right now and thats exactly how i feel. i feel like the one time when i wasn't wasting my youth was when i was off my meds obsessed with this one girl and i was self sabotaging all my healthy relationships. that was a year ago and i kinda miss it.
Everyone has different experiences.
For me, this movie hit home in many areas. I found it extremely relatable.
Thirteen is also from 2003…and in my opinion, growing up then vs now is sooo different in so many ways.
I'm nearly 18, I have done a lot of the things they do in the movie, just because I wanted the experiences. I guess I am kind of glad that I have, but my favorite memories are still from when I was sober. When you're drunk or high or whatever your inhibitions are just let down, and I always end up rethinking everything the next days. I spend a lot more time sober, so even though it feels good to party in the moment, it easily becomes a burden when you have to go back to your daily life. When you party a lot, you can't really do your best in your personal relationships or with your school or whatever else you care about, because it takes up so much energy. You just end up doing everything half-way, and that just feels shitty. :/
@@linalangemark2652 I already do things halfway and I don’t care about anything unfortunately :(
When I was 11, I remember seeing this film on the shelf at Blockbuster and I desperately wanted to see it, but my mom didn’t let me lol. I finally watched it at the ripe age of 29 but it still hit home in a lot of ways. Like nostalgia wise. My younger self definitely related to the intense emotion/self harm/male validation issues and the desperation of wanting to fill worthy enough of love. My teenage self couldn’t relate to the drug use tho, but is such a great film! I definitely wanted to dress like them in the early oughts too lol. What an amazing analysis! Tysm ^.^
I think the reason this movie shocked so much is because it depicts teenagers that are 13 doing all this when you would expect this from 16 year olds
Agreed. Hell, sure I was a bit sheltered and Went to private middle school but I was still playing with beanie babies at 13, I didn’t even do most of the things they did at 16 either 😂
@@alleycat616 people from the US think that not knowing much or not participating in this kind of situation is being sheltered. I just call it being normal.
I love that people are still talking about this film and I pray to God they keep on doing just that. I'm a guy who discovered the film when I was 15 or 16, I was going through a horrible bout of depression, I had started self-injuring, and things were just horrible. It was 2005/6 and life was upside down. This movie didn't outright heal me, nothing could besides love, time, and care, but it helped me in a way that I struggle to put to words. I honestly wish I could meet the folks who made this film, I wish I could meet other fans who were touched by it like I was, and I wish we could all hug and talk. I hope you're well and thank you for making this! It's an absolute shame more people aren't talking about it! I'd be horrified to see an updated 13, something that incorporates the social media you mention, but at the same time, I don't know how well it would work. It would be a very difficult film to make, that's for sure!
My mom showed this movie to me when I was 13! I remember it had come out on home video quite recently, and she had heard from a friend that every mother should watch it with their teenage daughter. I don't think we ever seriously discussed the themes or anything, but it showed me that she was at least making an effort to understand my experience.
when I was a young teenager that was the life I wanted. I grew up in a big city but when I was 11, me and my family moved to an extremely rural area. I hated my new school and people there. I had no friends and just wanted to end my life. I just went to school, talk with no one and came back home just to be on my phone the whole time. I started to sh in hopes for my parents or any adult to notice that I was struggling. No one cared. I wanted to have the life like in this movie. Because adults only notice that you’re struggling when you act out. No one cares about the shy teen who just sits in a corner all of time. I never got better. I lived like this for 8 years. I’m 19 now and I still get urges to act out, but I’m an adult now and I’m to scared to ruin my life. I move out this year of this shitty town. I’m sad that I wasted 8 years of my life, but I hope that the rest of my life is going to be better.
what I remember they said something like
Evie: are you ready?
tracy: let's go
Cute, I forgot to look into the theories of what their gibberish meant exactly. I think there was one more instance when they used it to communicate.
@@antiheroines-you-love My sister and I used the identical gibberish to talk in front of our parents at the dinner table. I can still understand it as an adult!
according to imdb, when they use the spoons the conversation is: Tracy asks "why does my tongue hurt?" To which Evie responds "maybe because you give head."
The scene when they were both kissing the older guy tho I used to think that more happened. I remember feeling really disgusted by that scene
I had friends that at 13 or a bit older were dating and messing around with college age guys 🤢
this needs so much more attention
amazing analysis, i’ve been watching videos trying to understand and sympathize with evie more. i was always upset and angry she placed all the blame on tracy, but “you don’t understand, i had to” now has a lot of a deeper meaning when she says it. hurt people hurt others.
I should really rewatch this movie. I think I saw it when I was 12 but I remember it just felt so raw.
You definitely should! See how your perception has changed on certain things.
One of my favorite movies. I was a “good girl” all my life, basically the Tracy-before-Evie. But I still identified with all
the chaos. I remember at 11-13 being filled with rage and pain and no one around me paying any attention or caring as long as I kept excelling and being good. I guess it’s good I never acted out like the girls in the movie but there was something cathartic I got from watching that arc, a release that I never got.
This video is excellent! You did a phenomenal job with your analysis. I had to watch Thirteen my sophomore year of college for a film class and even at 20 years old, it hit me really hard from memories of similar situations I went through at 12-13. I wish the current generations knew this movie even existed. They would eat it up.
Jesus you deserve more subscribers that is some solid editing
Amazing essay about a movie very formative to me!! So glad the algorithm sent me your way - binging your stuff now!
excelent excelent essay as always!!! i love this movie so much, its definitely in my top 5, i think its one of those movies that gets better every time you rewatch it
Yeah especially as you grow older, you start to notice new things and dynamics.
as a 15 year old girl this movie was super critical to my life in the past year (although I had watched it before it became super relatable to my life). I feel like this movie explains how intense being a teen girl is and how in the moment it feels so natural to go from 0 to 100 so fast you barely even noticed how much you've changed or prioritized other more superficial things. not every girl goes through it but most aren't afforded the privilege of being protected from certain things, not in terms of like developing personal style obviously but I mean more like substances and bad boys who are just looking for a one night good time. obviously the popular, deeply hurt, superficial girl presents differently now in 2023 just because culture and fashion has changed a lot but it's still just as important and prevalent. I absolutely adore this movie just because of how sentiment it is and how important it is. definitely an eye opener to watch when you are struggling mentally. freshman year I fell into the same trap and evie and Tracy and it didn't have the same ending and it was also exclusively because of societal pressures and I never had an intervention but it did open my eyes to my worth as a person and how I should be portraying myself in a better light that wasn't harmful to my soul ect..
This movie is so under appreciated, it was there for me at my lowest, confronting me on my issues and giving me the realization that if I don’t get better it really could get so much worse, but all comforted me in the thought that I wasn’t alone. Showing this to other people they always criticize and dislike it and it genuinely really upsets me because it’s such an important movie
i loved this video so much. thank you so much for uploading. now i’m going to binge all your videos lol
Thirteen was LITERALLY one of my top 3 favorite movies growing up. I guess it still is.
I remember watching this at a sleepover with my closest girlfriends, not longer after it came out (we also watched The Ring lol). We were around the same age and I remember feeling so -seen- The horror at the parents doing the worst, cringiest but most well-intentioned things was true to life. There was a palpable understanding that flowed through the film - the normalization of unbalanced and traumatic sexual experiences, the taught wire balance of maintaining teenage social standing, the fucking low-rise jeans, the clandestine discovery of personal agency. It was perfect. It probably remains perfect. But I don’t know if it will resonate with today’s teenage girls; there’s a different awareness of surveillance, both self-imposed and external. But I imagine that hoarding of secrets is still a unifying factor.
This movie really hit hard for me because i lived this life for a while until like in the movie, i got held back a year in school and lost my friendships then all i was left with was even more trauma and a life in shambles. I very much feel like i'm still dealing with the ramifications of those years to this day even though i'm a young adult now.
Small steps, trauma is a bitch
How have I never even heard of this movie?? :') Wish I could have seen it back when I was in my early teens. Excellent video!
With the family chaos, I thought more deeply about it because it resonated with me so much. Growing up with an insecure mother who lets shXtty men into her home and into her body, also all the people coming in and out, eating their food etc. Also the mom that got her hair done trying to control the environment with therapy and a recovering, chaotic alcoholic coming in with her kid and just taking space and food. The addicted boyfriend who doesn't bring in anything. A mother with a lack of boundaries is destructive to the daughter and her sense of safety. Just a weak mother who lets people use her and an addict. I thought these were important things to note to Tracy's trauma and development. Evie was the opposite of that, powerful, sexy and in control, she doesn't let people control her.
I remember sobbing so hard when Brooke uncovered Tracy’s cuts and Mel just held her and comforted her.
While my childhood/teenage years were very different from what was shown, I could still really relate to it and it felt very nostalgic and realistic. It really felt like I was watching real people go through these things. That's a huge accomplishment for a movie, in my opinion.
Great video btw!
Fun fact: they didn't make up gibberish for the movie. It was already a popular language among preteen and teen girls. Evie says "let's go do it now okay?" and Tracey says "okay are you ready?" me and my sister still use gibberish 😅
Lol we used it in England but it was called egg language
Loved this! Such a great analysis
this channel is amazing!!
My sisters and I love this movie. We bought it bc we watched it like crazy and to this day we always reference it bc we're all so enamored with everyone in it and the way they convey their individual struggles. Even the way they depict the moms addict boyfriend. It's all so perfect in terms of the very real way I encountered the real thing as a child and eventually a teenager. Thanks so much for this upload. It definitely got a lot of watches out of my family. I sent it to all my sisters.
I really love your videos!! I hope u never stop makin them! ❤️
Brilliant video thank you for this
I rock with this movie, KIDS, bully and all those dark coming off age movies
My favorite random fact is that the two main girls both starred as vampires in other roles. True blood and twilight I think
Probably just a random coincidence but in my “shared universe brain” it’s all connected😂
Great video!
True blood was Anna Paquin i think
@@abnormpsych17 Sookie never became a vampire. Evan Rachel Wood played a vampire queen in True Blood.
Nah the vampire queen was the blond girl in Thirteen
@@GroovyFlacko Correct... That's Evan Rachel Wood. Lol
@@utopiahomecare1714 I was talking to the person before you, my bad. I’m on your side fam!😂
Amazing analysis. I would love to see one done on Ginger Snaps.
Great film with some superb acting. I related to the mothers character. It’s hard to be a single parent in recovery, especially when you see your kids going down the path you went down.
I love this channel so much!
i was 11 when i first saw this. then again when i was 14 and this was definenly a reality in the early and mid 2000s. girls were drinking and doing drugs and things with boys at 13/14 years old id say 7th through 9th grade is kind of finding yourself time frame. i havent watched the movie probably in 9 or 10 years. i just remenber it being so accurate.
This film definitely stays close to my heart and how realistic it is as I've experienced my own similar things. I wasn't popular in middle school and was always made fun of, when I went to high school somehow I managed to befriend a popular girl in freshman year because we were assigned to work together on a school project. We started to get to know each other more and got closer, and because I wanted her approval I began dressing differently to fit in. Her world was much different, and it scared me. She smoked, she went out with senior guys, she drank, etc. As a teenage girl I was thrown into that world all because I wanted to fit in.
You are ridiculously ON POINT in this analysis. I was off the rails at 13, its so painful to see it in other young girls and to remember how much i related to Tracy. I still wanted to be Evie though.
I showed my mother this when i was 14, to try and reach out... she brushed it off as being "idiotic". I needed a mom, not a tyrant who starved and hit us.
Thankfully, my dad is a teddy bear (but also very responsible and not a pushover). Im nearly 31 and we live in different countries but talk every day.
thirteen to me was hella relatable bro. i was 11, doing sh, doing drugs, literally failed 6th grade to be with friends (who were bad influences), changed everything about myself to fit in with the "cool" older people, and even the relationship tracy had with her mom was hella relatable. Thirteen is wild, but honestly its not as unrealistic as many think. Im 14 and in highschool now, still struggling with substance abuse and withdrawals, still trying to find and love myself, with many other flaws. But ive learned a lot since then, and ive grown from many of my past mistakes.
this movie was so so sad and real, that i didn't know what to say when i finished it. i still re watch it, and when i watch it. it still feels brand new to watch again. Would recommend for people to watch this movie, its super good.
I can not say enough how accurate this film is. I watched this film at about 11 years old and always wanted to be like Evie and Tracy even though that wasn't the message the film was spreading. When I turned 13 I became this awful kid and no matter how many times my parents tried they couldnt stop me. Unfortunately it was because of the influence of my best-friend who looked and acted much older than her age. It's funny actually cause I always wanted to be her friend from the day I saw her at the school welcome day at the beginning of the year (similar to Tracy and Evie's beginning of the friendship). I cant entirely blame her though, even in that era I noticed I was influencing her badly too. I was doing illegal things with older boys (im talking 16-17), wearing older makeup and clothes, lying about my age, lying about my location, falling into deep depressive cycles and doing all this bad shit to excite myself, drinking and such. One day after being in the city for 5 days I came home and found my stuff I had been hiding sitting on my bed in a pile, I ended up bawling my eyes out and crying to my mom refusing to tell her what happened. I sat in the shower crying for about an hour and couldn't look my parents in the eye for weeks. God that sick feeling that you feel when Tracy is caught and her mom and her bawl their eyes out lying on the kitchen floor is something I never thought I would relate to until the incident. Now that I think of it, the situation was almost the exact same, it even ended with her getting taken away from me after her mom saw our text conversations and forced her to move schools in another city.
@Jaime Yes!! thanks for asking xx
I’m glad i found this channel 😊
Great great video! First time watching this channel.
Love this, such a good take/explanation on the firm.
Excellent analysis. This film is amazing but honestly kind of hard to watch now that I’m an adult. Brings back too many bad memories.
I found your videos, and then was like "They have to have made one on Thirteen" and here we are! It was one of my older sisters fave movies growing up (we have a 9yr age difference), so I have some weird ass core memories of the movie.
Very wonderful summary of this movie. Too raw for me to comment more, as the things that happen in this movie (save the drug use) happened similarly in my life.
Terrific video on an excellent and important motion picture.
Great video! I love this movie
I was 13 when this came out. My friends mom took us to see it at the local indie art movie theater. Unforgettable. I own it now.
This movie came into my life at the right time. It helped me understand my teenaged years! And it was really relatable to me!
Honestly the early 2000’s were a crazy time and I literally felt like I was reliving my life in that time as a teenager. There is NO WAY I can even imagine my 16 year old doing half the stuff I did back then
Well imagine cause I'm sure they are whether you know or not ... It's life
This is such a great movie. There is so much realism and heartbreaking truth about teenagehood. And it's superbly acted.
the first time I watched this movie (i was 13) I didn't really like it... now I realized, it was because it was exactly like in the real world. It was too real. I didn't want to accept it
This is one of my favorite movies, and I actually first watched it this past year. It came out when I was pre-teen and the trailers terrified me at that age that growing up was that scary. Little did I know, it was. It’s very reminiscent of my best friend growing up, who I recently had to let go of. Very powerful work of art. I also love seeing all the hints of this movie in the first Twilight movie ☺️
Love your videos!
When my mom saw my scars, she hit me
It was 6 years ago but i never forgotten that.
I always say that it’s just a movie, but It is so realistic, I keep crying about it, I relate to it so much, I watched this at 2am and I cried for hours…
I feel like there was an underserved backlash around this movie. Evie had a lot of problem and Tracy’s family had its dysfunction, their friendship made sense. They didn’t make their own language up though, it’s jibberish. They also never show anything, things are implied but I knew girls in HS that were like this on some level. I had my own stuff but never to the level of a lot of what happened in the movie but my mom was active in my life and strict at times
beautiful video!
Perfect. Thanks ☺️👍🏽
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I love this movie so much nice to see this review 🤩🤩😁
So informative!
This movie was released 5 days before my 13th birthday. I remember seeing it with my best friend at the time. Ughh, take me back.
One of my favorite movies. I remember seeing it when I was 13. My mom bought it for me; we both got emotional watching it.
Very true! Everyone has a different interpretation and relates to it in a different way