Fair point, but the microphone on the decibel meter has a directional pickup pattern, so us talking behind the meter has very little impact. Thanks for watching.
Would have been a better test to hold the drone in one spot and sit the mic in one spot so that the position is exactly the same. I get it, just a simple comparison and the platinum is noticeably quieter.
I know first hand between the two that the original Mavic Pro is much more stable in high wind then the Platinum. The more efficient ESC and quieter props do have a practical downside - ability to stabilise and fly against strong wind. With the Pro I’ve never had an issue even in strong wind, a lil genius of an aircraft. The Platinum though can’t stabilise or hold position - very noticeably gets blown away in comparable wind. Working with them commercially to observe and take field data this is very important
One more point is that the Platinum runs at lower RPM because my guess is the props have a steeper pitch. With that in mind, I would not run the props on the old one because it might damage the ESC with a load they are not designed for.
The escs shouldn't make a difference in flight time, the new escs are most likely running a digital protocol which allows for smoother flight rather than longer flights
Just a side note I am sure someone else said below somewhere but the RPM is not the only thing that affects battery. When changing props they might have a different pitch so to move the same amount of air it can use a lower RPM but require more power. Think biking in a really high gear. You might be pedaling slower but having to push on the pedals harder. Two motors using the same amount of power but one turning a prop with a steeper pitch will have a slower RPM. The decrease in sound is likely due to the lower RPM and less turbulent noise.
Well done, guys. On the flight time tests, I think you need to account for the fact that you used the new Mavic Platinum batteries for both drones; could it be that the Platinum batteries are optimised to improve flight (in the Platinum drone) and may therefore account for why both drones only show a slight variation in flight times? What if you tested the drones with their respective custom batteries?
i bought the mavic pro original one! its ok if there is a minute battery difference and it was on sale on blackfriday so the prize is justifiable! good vid!
The perfect sound measurement would be if they were held in place with something and measured from exactly the same distance, because while flying it's hard to keep the same distance. A few cm makes a lot of difference. The new one is still going to be much quieter like you tested, but the exact difference may differ.
Great vid . I currently own the Platinum and couldn't be happier. Quick question...What model Oakley sunglasses are those ? I currently have the turbines but really like the look of those.
Interesting video guys. I am seriously looking at a Mavic to add to my collection. The differences seem a little subtle but for only an additional 100.00 I would just shoot for the platinum. Cheers Florida USA
Looking at getting my first drone this Christmas. Looking at the mavic pro versus the mavic 2 Pro. Not sure if I should spend that much money on the mavic 2 Pro as my first drone. What would you recommend? We actually have three weddings coming up this year oh, and I thought it would be cool to use the Drone to video and take photos.
Thank you both, as a P3S pilot who has learned the bitter lesson of not having a backup drone (3 months in and out of DJI service dept.) I will definitely be buying a new drone next year and want to invest in a Mavic. This video was immensely helpful.
Whats important when comparing the noise is also the lower frequency of the platinum, which makes the difference in practice even greater, as humans are more prone to higher whistling noises, even if a the same sound level.
Nice job guys...Let me explain the sound issue...The sound from these drones are determined by the RPMs... What they did was increase the pitch of the props , which increases the torque, so they could lower the rpm of the motors...The new ESCs were designed to efficiently handle the higher torque at the lower RPM... To summarize, they shifted the power curve of the motors by increasing torque and decreasing RPM. The new props on the standard Mavic have the higher pitch=higher torque, so the RPMs will drop, but the ESC’s are not as efficient on this part of the power curve, so it is a bit of a compromise and battery life will probably be lower than with the more efficient ESCs.
I actually do noise metering a lot in my profession. 3dBA difference is double (or half) the noise level. In reality its a different story because noise is perceived very individually.
Don't get us wrong. It's a very good video , and I even like the fact that the two teamed up to educate us about drones and show how we are all one people whether light skin or dark skin. Respect for that. As human beings we all make mistakes. And this is why RUclips allows comments to correct ourselves. That's y I said it's just my thoughts. Again...good video.
I really wanted to know how much more reliable it was and how much better or worse the camera was. Of course it is lighter it’s not carrying around a garbage can.
Awesome video! I just got my Mavic Pro today after using a Spark for 3 months. This video was very informative, new platinum props already purchased and on route
The whistle is caused by the ESCs, the Platinum has sinus ESCs, while the voltage the regular Mavic ESCs put out is a square wave. This means it has worse efficiency (because it puts out the full voltage all the time and doesn't build it up and down, leading to the 3 minutes shorter maximum flight time, and this creates the whining noise, similar to how in soundwaves a square wave sounds compared to a sinus wave.
You misquoted yourself on the rpm's of the Platinum. At 7:50 minutes you said the Platinum was at 475-490 rpms but later you said it was 450 compared to the 485-490 for the original Mavic with Platinum props. So same rpm's for the Platinum props, regardless of Mavic version. Would be interesting to see that flight time comparison. Great vid, thanks!
Thanks for the video. Great comparison. Is it possible the dB was increasing as you we speaking the numbers? When you started speaking, you literally counted up, 89, 90, 91.... I have no idea. Just wondering if those meters are omni-directional?
For me, an extra minute or two is huge for Drone work. But I do like a noisier drone. It helps me to find it in the air when I lose sight which happens more often then I would like.
When you first spoke about RPMs you said the platinum had 480 475 490. At the end of the video when you tried the low noise propellers on mavic pro you said that the platinum's were 450. So which one is correct? I have the platinum and is about 495-500 when hovering.
Thing about it is, when you guys were flying the drones the Mavic Pro was moving towards the platinum, this depleting the battery with unnecessary motion.
Decibels are measured logarithmically. Definition - A logarithmic scale is a scale of measurement that uses the logarithm of a physical quantity instead of the quantity itself. On a logarithmic scale, each tick mark on the scale is the previous tick mark multiplied by some number. The logarithmic scale can be helpful when the data covers a large range of values - the logarithm reduces this to a more manageable range.
FYI, in logarithms, working in base 10, for each 10 dB of is a change of 10 or 1 order of magnitude. Doubling or halving the sound level is a change of 3.01 dB (let's just round off at 3). So comparing between 89dB and 95dB is 6 dB or meaning the value of 89dB is 25% the sound power (remember sound energy is measured as a function of power) of the unit that was putting out 95dB of sound. Thanks for the video BTW, I've been entertaining getting a drone, but I am not very coordinated, so it needs to have enough smarts on its own to avoid walls, trees, and poorly coordinated drone operators.
Here's something you should test for. The Mavic Platinum was slow to wind up so does that effect performance if racing. I mean does the prop response show slippage when making extreme flight changes. Is it even noticeable. I'm thinking the slow start up is slippage between the motor and the blades at first start and then they sync once the blades are in motion but I could be wrong. There could be an efficiency factor designed into how much juice is used to start up which could add a few seconds to flight time.
Nope - there is no slippage between the motors and the blades. The spin up is designed do work that way. Not sure why, but it is definitely not slippage. The Mavic is not really a racing drone, but it is super fast in Sport mode!
Now I'm glad I've already ordered a Platinum (sorry, already ordered through Amazon). The supposed delivery window is between November 7 - 16. Not gonna place any high-stakes wagers on that becoming a reality, but I can dream, can't I? I think it will still be worth the wait.
Great video, love the quaity and depth however when reading the DB's on the sound test, your voice wouldve increassed the sound the meter picked up so not sure how that wouldve effected the results
Did you know that Speed Racer (the dude on the shirt you’re wearing) in the 60’s was the first to fly a FPV drone that was built into his race car? Super awesome! 😃
Great job, thanks guys. I wonder if the lower rpm on the grey Mavic with new blades will be more demanding on the motors in the way of torque (the thrust or lift required has not changed)? If that was the case, motor life could be reduced.
So glad you did the penultimate test with the later props on the Mavic Pro 1. I have the MP1, with later style props and was willing you, from my sofa, to do the test.
Cool. But it doesn't let us know if the battery consumption would have been larger in difference if both Mavics had their own true battery, as they both used Mavic Pro Platinum batteries, but I love all you videos :) Thanks greatly for all your effort on each upload- i genuinely look forward to them.
Always turn the controller on first - every single time, especially when you're going to control something with blades spinning at several thousand rpm.
The differences are not that subtle. I owned a Mavic Pro, it got stolen, and I now have the Platinum. I find the sound to be significantly less annoying, actually no longer annoying at all. It's a bit of technological wonder. It also seems to fly a little smoother, who knows why.
Actually, -10dB is halving the perceived volume, but 1/10th the acoustic energy. A 3dB difference is what is considered a 'noticeable' difference in volume by most listeners, but is a factor of 2 in acoustic energy. So your statement may be misleading as 'intensity' suggests human perception of sound, which would only be 'noticeable'.
Great video guys, just got out of surgery and was awesome to be able to watch you guys togother again. Keep up the great work Kelly and B and of course all the guys behind the scenes. Love you keep it real with the dog interrupting. It happens to all of us, lol. Cheer and Happy Flying guys!!!
That's why the readings go up and down all the time, the drone is making a constant noise, you would not expect such a big variation. I guess it's the first time you have ever done a decibel test?
Are prop diameters and pitch the same? It may be a lower rpm because the pitch is higher. The new esc may be tuned for a higher pitch? Are the motors identical? Are the KV ratings on the motors the same?
great video Sir! why did it keep drifting? i thought the Mavic is rock steady! i dont understand why it will last longer in forward flight then hovering
Thank you for this video. I fly a Mavic Pro as one of my public safety aircraft, but have decided to purchase a unit for personal use. I have been trying to decide whether or not to spend extra for Platinum. Your semi-scientific approach was better than the marketing information and reaffirmed the reason to spend money on the Platinum. I also believe the Platinum will most likely last longer on the product roadmap for firmware and parts than a Pro only.
I'm a realtor who wants to use my mavic for photos only. Will one of these stay more stable in the wind vs the other or do they have the same stability and object detection?
Just placed my order, got the Drone Racer & iDrone long sleeve as well. Loving you content, I have learned a lot from you and Ed Ricard. I have flown friends drones but never my own. Just ordered my first drone should arrive soon "Mavic Pro Fly More Combo". I hope to post much more Drone content very soon.
Thanks for the video. Needs more test being done when pairing platinum props with mavic pro. Lower rpm does not necessarily translate to better efficiency when flying in real life conditions because flight stability is determined by a number of other factors. In windy conditions, mavic pro may not fly as good with platinum's prop. That is something that needs to be further tested. My advice would actually to buy mavic pro, save the extra $100 to buy DJI drone insurance. Anyway, in the coming months there's a good chance that a new mavic model is coming in.
Awesome video - could you do the db test again without speaking as the db reader is taking it from your voice, that’s why it kept spiking. Not a true test otherwise.
From previous experience building and flying multirotors with all kinds of various props, yes, the Mavic will fly just fine using a mix of the two kinds of props. The Mavic's flight controller has no way of knowing if there's a different prop attached...for all the Mavic knows, that arm is just experiencing a slightly different wind...updraft, downdraft, etc. Flight controllers don't know the RPM of a given motor...all the flight controller knows is to either speed up the RPM (by telling the ESC to send more current to the motor), or to slow down RPM by doing the opposite.
Hey guys,... Thanks for another great comparison video. I wanted to point one thing out on the prop swap evaluation. You mispoke on the rpms between the platinum and the original mavic.During your test at 7:52 you said the rpms on the platinum with its own props were 480 rpms & bouncing between 475/490At 20:06 you said the original mavic with the platinum props were 490/487 rpmsThen at 20:16 you mispoke and commented the platinum props were 450 rpms which actually they were spinning at 475/490 like you said at 7:52 So in conclusion the platinum props on the original mavic are the same rpm as on the platinum mavic and I'd like too see you guys do a battery test on the original mavic with the platinum props running at the lower rpm vs the platinum with the original mavic props. I installed the platinum props on my mavic pro and they are definitely quieter. They don't have the annoying whining, swarm of bees sound that you can hear from a long way off. The big differences are at 50ft, 100+ ft and higher. You can barely hear the platinum props unlike the original ones. Thanks again... And keep up the great work !!
I would have liked to see the Platinum props on the Mavic Pro for the sound test. Would there be a big noise difference between them? Would it be better to sell the Pro and get the Platinum or just upgrade to the Platinum props?
During the time you guys flew the drones down to 20% should have put in some aerial shots as well a small video. Would have also liked to see the video quality of the camera and photo quality. Need to have a better criteria for reviewing the drones but good work. You guys will get better with time. 👍
I like that you guys are trying to show the differences but I have to disagree with the "scientific" level of your sound test. It looked like the sound level meter was being held directly below or nearly below the drone which would cause a lot of prop wash onto the mic thus greatly affecting the true sound level of the drone. It's likely that the blade design differences cause a different airflow under the drone. Also, just an inch or two difference in distance when so close can cause a significant change in db reading so there should be a method to keep the meter an exact and constant distance from the drone, ideally along a flat horizontal plane to the drone.
Question; Has DJI enhanced the build of the gymbal for the Mavic Pro Platinum to avoid the problems some of the standard Mavic Pro's had? Is there any data suggesting a better gymbal on the Platinum? Thanks for the VIDS
Indeed , sound measurment uses a logarithmic scale. Sound is a order of magnitude. I also think that our ears are more sensitive to high pitch noises. Therefore even if we had the same decibel noise , but one in lower sound spectrum and one in higher sound spectrum (both discernable), we will still get the impresion that the higher pitched sound is louder. I hope it makes sense.
How can you claim an accurate battery flight time comparison when you use Platinum batteries for both? Most original Mavic owners probably have original batteries. I bet if you used the OG Mavic’s battery against the Platinum’s, there would have been a bigger difference.
like you said, quads a more efficient when moving forward. Also the batts have more potential - hearing the "never been flown" reminded me that new batts need a few cycles to get their full capacity
Thanks Paul. The funny thing is that I've been dinged in the past for using batteries with some flight cycles, so I was trying to avoid that by using new batteries. But your point is a fair one!
That was a great comparison, cant believe you only have 52k subscribers. Did ye test how quiet the old props would be on the mavic pro platinum or are the props the same price so it would almost be irrelevant. Also the mavic pro here is around €1099 and the mavic pro platinum is €1399 here, If a slilghly longer flight time and noise are the only real difference I cant see how that would be worth it here anyway. unless there's different firmware with more features which wouldn't make any sense as there as I cant see why the older one couldn't be updated
How do you know that it wasn't the props alone? Other comparison videos using the new props on the non platinum are gaining 1 minute off flight time as well with the old mavic pro.
good vid,, I guess what you have to ask yourself, is are those two things worth a hundred bucks? or is it worth it just to say you have a platinum version,, who knows. To me its frustrating that DJI is CONSTANTLY coming up with something else to make money. Period. and I guess keep people working,, (ah hemmm)
Sir, When your Mavic boots, Does it passes through NFZ message ? I've got my Mavic in June 2017. Never fly in restricted zone (NFZ). It allways booted without NFZ. Then in September I visited Alabama Huntsville Space Center. I try to take off with my Mavic. And now after that atempt in Space Center Mavic all-time boots and shows for about 15seconds NFZ message.
Also, some of the sound being picked up in the db meter was probably the sound generated when the air hit the microphone. Needed to keep the mike out of the slipstream to get a good reading.
Well the sound check was a little off due to you yelling out the numbers, 3 decibles is twice the sound level, so 90 decibles is half the sound level of 93 decibles, but the other information was great...Cheers
Thanks again for a great video! I'm a pilot in training, RC plane pilot, and a photographer. I need this drone! Question- If I am flying in safe rural area away from Class B, C an D, airspace and away from ALL airports what is the max altitude for the mavic or Spark? ]\
seems that your new motors are designed for those new propellers. Meaning, its like buying an aftermarket set of props that are quieter for the Mavic pro when in reality, the props are of a higher pitch (speed) than that of the original mavic pro propellers (power). Be willing to bet that the only test the Mavic Pro would beat the Mavic Pro Platinum at is how well it fights the higher winds during flight. Might be why the original Mavic seemed to hover better that the Platinum Mavic.
The Platinum puts out a lower frequency too, which is more agreeable to human ears. That makes it seem much quieter than it really is.
Ed Felty exactly, the props change the frequency more than the volume. We hear it less, as does the device.
@unrepeatable raddish YEAH I AGREE, AND THERE NOT £100 LOL around £10
Perhaps when your testing for sound, you might try not talking while taking the readings.
Fair point, but the microphone on the decibel meter has a directional pickup pattern, so us talking behind the meter has very little impact. Thanks for watching.
And, of course, *you're**
Lol
He literally watches it switch 3 times, tells what he sees, watches three more changes then speaks... 🤦🏻♂️
Would have been a better test to hold the drone in one spot and sit the mic in one spot so that the position is exactly the same. I get it, just a simple comparison and the platinum is noticeably quieter.
11:55 " keep it facing that way and I'll do it from behind" probably the greatest line I've ever heard in a drone related video
I know first hand between the two that the original Mavic Pro is much more stable in high wind then the Platinum. The more efficient ESC and quieter props do have a practical downside - ability to stabilise and fly against strong wind. With the Pro I’ve never had an issue even in strong wind, a lil genius of an aircraft. The Platinum though can’t stabilise or hold position - very noticeably gets blown away in comparable wind.
Working with them commercially to observe and take field data this is very important
When you do a sound test, stop yapping. The viewers at home want to hear the sound difference between the two drones too.
Will do! Thanks for the comment!
Lol, seriously. "I'm going to test the decibel level by standing just as close as the sound source and shout on top of it!"
agreed, a good video spoilt by annoying verbal decibel readouts during comparison, i wanted to actually hear the drones running not the yapping
Yes, my thoughts exactly! Why shout loudly whilst doing a sound test??
Honestly I am glad your read out the decibel levels since we could not see the meter. Thank you.
The quality of these vids is insane
Best line... "He has two balls in his mouth."
I enjoyed the "...and I'll do it from behind...", myself. :)
Get your mind out of the gutter
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You're testing how loud they are WHILE SHOUTING LOUDLY SO THE MICROPHONE CAN HEAR YOU OVER THE MAVIC lol.
ffs
11:57 B laughing at Kelly saying "I'll do it from behind" xD
So I see that the Pro vs. Platinum has some differences. The Mavic 2 Pro is now out. Can you do a comparison between the 2 and the Platinum?
One more point is that the Platinum runs at lower RPM because my guess is the props have a steeper pitch. With that in mind, I would not run the props on the old one because it might damage the ESC with a load they are not designed for.
12:43 your voice is louder than the drone, that's why you have to keep changing your numbers.
You are right. They don't realize that ambient noise and vocal projection distort the test values, which nullifies their experiment.
The escs shouldn't make a difference in flight time, the new escs are most likely running a digital protocol which allows for smoother flight rather than longer flights
Thanks for the good video. It would be interesting, how long the "old" Mavic flies with the new props. Did you test that?
You guys are very professional! Thanks. It is new props for my gray one.
Just a side note I am sure someone else said below somewhere but the RPM is not the only thing that affects battery. When changing props they might have a different pitch so to move the same amount of air it can use a lower RPM but require more power. Think biking in a really high gear. You might be pedaling slower but having to push on the pedals harder. Two motors using the same amount of power but one turning a prop with a steeper pitch will have a slower RPM. The decrease in sound is likely due to the lower RPM and less turbulent noise.
Well done, guys. On the flight time tests, I think you need to account for the fact that you used the new Mavic Platinum batteries for both drones; could it be that the Platinum batteries are optimised to improve flight (in the Platinum drone) and may therefore account for why both drones only show a slight variation in flight times? What if you tested the drones with their respective custom batteries?
you guys are the best making these vids!
For a real treat, compair the Platinum to the Mavic Air.. The Air sounds like a swarm of bees !
i bought the mavic pro original one! its ok if there is a minute battery difference and it was on sale on blackfriday so the prize is justifiable! good vid!
The perfect sound measurement would be if they were held in place with something and measured from exactly the same distance, because while flying it's hard to keep the same distance. A few cm makes a lot of difference. The new one is still going to be much quieter like you tested, but the exact difference may differ.
Great vid . I currently own the Platinum and couldn't be happier. Quick question...What model Oakley sunglasses are those ? I currently have the turbines but really like the look of those.
Interesting video guys. I am seriously looking at a Mavic to add to my collection. The differences seem a little subtle but for only an additional 100.00 I would just shoot for the platinum.
Cheers
Florida USA
Looking at getting my first drone this Christmas. Looking at the mavic pro versus the mavic 2 Pro. Not sure if I should spend that much money on the mavic 2 Pro as my first drone. What would you recommend? We actually have three weddings coming up this year oh, and I thought it would be cool to use the Drone to video and take photos.
Thank you both, as a P3S pilot who has learned the bitter lesson of not having a backup drone (3 months in and out of DJI service dept.) I will definitely be buying a new drone next year and want to invest in a Mavic. This video was immensely helpful.
Awesome! Glad to hear it. You will love the Mavic!
You know this is an excellent video. Good job . Very insightful ,fun and informative .
Thanks! We really enjoyed making it.
+pablo9364 Your comment looks fake AF I'd say a generated...
Whats important when comparing the noise is also the lower frequency of the platinum, which makes the difference in practice even greater, as humans are more prone to higher whistling noises, even if a the same sound level.
Nice job guys...Let me explain the sound issue...The sound from these drones are determined by the RPMs...
What they did was increase the pitch of the props , which increases the torque, so they could lower the rpm of the motors...The new ESCs were designed to efficiently handle the higher torque at the lower RPM...
To summarize, they shifted the power curve of the motors by increasing torque and decreasing RPM.
The new props on the standard Mavic have the higher pitch=higher torque, so the RPMs will drop, but the ESC’s are not as efficient on this part of the power curve, so it is a bit of a compromise and battery life will probably be lower than with the more efficient ESCs.
I actually do noise metering a lot in my profession. 3dBA difference is double (or half) the noise level. In reality its a different story because noise is perceived very individually.
they produce a diffrent freq. in my opinion. the platinum props are larger too. lower rpm
the forward movement you speak of is called translational lift effect TLE which happens around 11-15 kts
I thing you guys should get a more quiet soundproof room to do the sound test. just my thoughts.
Rabbit Stu & KBOK KB why not you two do your own video and let see the results...
It was just a suggestion, chill out
Don't get us wrong. It's a very good video , and I even like the fact that the two teamed up to educate us about drones and show how we are all one people whether light skin or dark skin. Respect for that. As human beings we all make mistakes. And this is why RUclips allows comments to correct ourselves. That's y I said it's just my thoughts. Again...good video.
Read measurement with eyes. State the measurement aloud. Pause talking. Repeat. What's the problem?
If you want clean sound sure but for this test, as long as the conditions are constant and fixed, which they were, that isn't necessary.
I really wanted to know how much more reliable it was and how much better or worse the camera was. Of course it is lighter it’s not carrying around a garbage can.
great vid! Want to get a platinum but don't know how to fly! what toy drone should I practice with?
Awesome video! I just got my Mavic Pro today after using a Spark for 3 months. This video was very informative, new platinum props already purchased and on route
The whistle is caused by the ESCs, the Platinum has sinus ESCs, while the voltage the regular Mavic ESCs put out is a square wave. This means it has worse efficiency (because it puts out the full voltage all the time and doesn't build it up and down, leading to the 3 minutes shorter maximum flight time, and this creates the whining noise, similar to how in soundwaves a square wave sounds compared to a sinus wave.
You misquoted yourself on the rpm's of the Platinum. At 7:50 minutes you said the Platinum was at 475-490 rpms but later you said it was 450 compared to the 485-490 for the original Mavic with Platinum props. So same rpm's for the Platinum props, regardless of Mavic version. Would be interesting to see that flight time comparison. Great vid, thanks!
Thanks for the video. Great comparison. Is it possible the dB was increasing as you we speaking the numbers? When you started speaking, you literally counted up, 89, 90, 91.... I have no idea. Just wondering if those meters are omni-directional?
For me, an extra minute or two is huge for Drone work. But I do like a noisier drone. It helps me to find it in the air when I lose sight which happens more often then I would like.
When you first spoke about RPMs you said the platinum had 480 475 490. At the end of the video when you tried the low noise propellers on mavic pro you said that the platinum's were 450. So which one is correct? I have the platinum and is about 495-500 when hovering.
Thing about it is, when you guys were flying the drones the Mavic Pro was moving towards the platinum, this depleting the battery with unnecessary motion.
Great video, simple, direct and very useful
Decibels are measured logarithmically.
Definition - A logarithmic scale is a scale of measurement that uses the logarithm of a physical quantity instead of the quantity itself. On a logarithmic scale, each tick mark on the scale is the previous tick mark multiplied by some number.
The logarithmic scale can be helpful when the data covers a large range of values - the logarithm reduces this to a more manageable range.
FYI, in logarithms, working in base 10, for each 10 dB of is a change of 10 or 1 order of magnitude. Doubling or halving the sound level is a change of 3.01 dB (let's just round off at 3). So comparing between 89dB and 95dB is 6 dB or meaning the value of 89dB is 25% the sound power (remember sound energy is measured as a function of power) of the unit that was putting out 95dB of sound. Thanks for the video BTW, I've been entertaining getting a drone, but I am not very coordinated, so it needs to have enough smarts on its own to avoid walls, trees, and poorly coordinated drone operators.
I love to see adult men unite in shared enthusiasm, over technological toys for big boys. 😂
Here's something you should test for. The Mavic Platinum was slow to wind up so does that effect performance if racing. I mean does the prop response show slippage when making extreme flight changes. Is it even noticeable. I'm thinking the slow start up is slippage between the motor and the blades at first start and then they sync once the blades are in motion but I could be wrong. There could be an efficiency factor designed into how much juice is used to start up which could add a few seconds to flight time.
Nope - there is no slippage between the motors and the blades. The spin up is designed do work that way. Not sure why, but it is definitely not slippage. The Mavic is not really a racing drone, but it is super fast in Sport mode!
Now I'm glad I've already ordered a Platinum (sorry, already ordered through Amazon). The supposed delivery window is between November 7 - 16. Not gonna place any high-stakes wagers on that becoming a reality, but I can dream, can't I? I think it will still be worth the wait.
Great video, love the quaity and depth however when reading the DB's on the sound test, your voice wouldve increassed the sound the meter picked up so not sure how that wouldve effected the results
Battery test, on a camera drone, without running the camera?
Did you know that Speed Racer (the dude on the shirt you’re wearing) in the 60’s was the first to fly a FPV drone that was built into his race car? Super awesome! 😃
+Bobster986 I’m glad to see other Speed Racer fans out there!
Great job, thanks guys.
I wonder if the lower rpm on the grey Mavic with new blades will be more demanding on the motors in the way of torque (the thrust or lift required has not changed)? If that was the case, motor life could be reduced.
So glad you did the penultimate test with the later props on the Mavic Pro 1. I have the MP1, with later style props and was willing you, from my sofa, to do the test.
Cool. But it doesn't let us know if the battery consumption would have been larger in difference if both Mavics had their own true battery, as they both used Mavic Pro Platinum batteries, but I love all you videos :) Thanks greatly for all your effort on each upload- i genuinely look forward to them.
Always turn the controller on first - every single time,
especially when you're going to control something with blades spinning at several thousand rpm.
The differences are not that subtle. I owned a Mavic Pro, it got stolen, and I now have the Platinum. I find the sound to be significantly less annoying, actually no longer annoying at all. It's a bit of technological wonder. It also seems to fly a little smoother, who knows why.
-3dB is a halving of sound intensity. -6dB means a quarter of the sound of the Mavic Pro
Actually, -10dB is halving the perceived volume, but 1/10th the acoustic energy.
A 3dB difference is what is considered a 'noticeable' difference in volume by most listeners, but is a factor of 2 in acoustic energy. So your statement may be misleading as 'intensity' suggests human perception of sound, which would only be 'noticeable'.
-3dB = 1/2, -6dB = 1/4, -10dB = 1/10, www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/jw/images/dB_files/LI.gif
AWESOME VIDEO! THANKS FOR SHARING!
You guys did a great job breaking it all down! Now I know what to buy so thanks for the effort!
Great video guys, just got out of surgery and was awesome to be able to watch you guys togother again. Keep up the great work Kelly and B and of course all the guys behind the scenes. Love you keep it real with the dog interrupting. It happens to all of us, lol. Cheer and Happy Flying guys!!!
Thanks Donnie - hope you are recovering nicely!
Ready Set Drone I will be back running in no time. 😉👍
The db your shouting out the numbers which will increase the reading c.mon guys !!!!
Noted. Thanks for the comment.
is that a fact lol
That's why the readings go up and down all the time, the drone is making a constant noise, you would not expect such a big variation. I guess it's the first time you have ever done a decibel test?
Are prop diameters and pitch the same? It may be a lower rpm because the pitch is higher. The new esc may be tuned for a higher pitch? Are the motors identical? Are the KV ratings on the motors the same?
Awesome works guys!! Feels like a flitetest video!😁
Thanks Casey! This is a big compliment!
a test of the mavic with the new propellers and the platinum with the old ones will tell you so much more
These were my thoughts also
They DID test the new props with the Pro.
you've missed the point
and the point is buying every piece of crap with little upgrades?
Great video
Didn’t know Kevin hart love drones
Why land at 20% when the drone is hovering at 4 feet right in front of you?
You are not supposed to take LiPo's below 20%. Some people think that's not true, but wanted to be safe.
That dog was adorable!
Agreed!
Do we have to register/license these MAVIC Pros with any of the local agencies? Thanks, I really enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing.
great video Sir! why did it keep drifting? i thought the Mavic is rock steady! i dont understand why it will last longer in forward flight then hovering
Thank you for this video. I fly a Mavic Pro as one of my public safety aircraft, but have decided to purchase a unit for personal use. I have been trying to decide whether or not to spend extra for Platinum. Your semi-scientific approach was better than the marketing information and reaffirmed the reason to spend money on the Platinum. I also believe the Platinum will most likely last longer on the product roadmap for firmware and parts than a Pro only.
I’m thinking of buying a drone but bringing it over seas. Should I hand carry it or put it on my luggage?
knight knives hand carry
I'm a realtor who wants to use my mavic for photos only. Will one of these stay more stable in the wind vs the other or do they have the same stability and object detection?
Sweet....great review guys.....keep up the good work
Hey! Wich camera was used in the right side? Whats the model?
Loving the Drone Racer T-Shirt, my favorite cartoon growing up was Speed Racer!!! Big Props!! Where can I get one?
+TechSavvyDaddy Awesome! At the end of the video is a link to buy that shirt on Spreadshirt.com
Just placed my order, got the Drone Racer & iDrone long sleeve as well. Loving you content, I have learned a lot from you and Ed Ricard. I have flown friends drones but never my own. Just ordered my first drone should arrive soon "Mavic Pro Fly More Combo". I hope to post much more Drone content very soon.
Just ordered the platinum pro! So excited 💯💯
Carluuchio Had mine since February. Your going to love it.
Time to order some new props!!! And props to you on the awesome video!! 👍
Thanks!
All the negative comments on the platinum are just the bitter that had to preorder the mavic
There might also be some wind in the decibel test, maybe try from above or from the side while not talking maybe?
Thanks for the video. Needs more test being done when pairing platinum props with mavic pro. Lower rpm does not necessarily translate to better efficiency when flying in real life conditions because flight stability is determined by a number of other factors. In windy conditions, mavic pro may not fly as good with platinum's prop. That is something that needs to be further tested. My advice would actually to buy mavic pro, save the extra $100 to buy DJI drone insurance. Anyway, in the coming months there's a good chance that a new mavic model is coming in.
Of course...that's why the battery is giving more flight time...cos the motors are spinning slower cos of the better props. Good test guys!
Thanks!
Awesome video - could you do the db test again without speaking as the db reader is taking it from your voice, that’s why it kept spiking. Not a true test otherwise.
From previous experience building and flying multirotors with all kinds of various props, yes, the Mavic will fly just fine using a mix of the two kinds of props.
The Mavic's flight controller has no way of knowing if there's a different prop attached...for all the Mavic knows, that arm is just experiencing a slightly different wind...updraft, downdraft, etc.
Flight controllers don't know the RPM of a given motor...all the flight controller knows is to either speed up the RPM (by telling the ESC to send more current to the motor), or to slow down RPM by doing the opposite.
Hey guys,...
Thanks for another great comparison video. I wanted to point one thing out on the prop swap evaluation. You mispoke on the rpms between the platinum and the original mavic.During your test at 7:52 you said the rpms on the platinum with its own props were 480 rpms & bouncing between 475/490At 20:06 you said the original mavic with the platinum props were 490/487 rpmsThen at 20:16 you mispoke and commented the platinum props were 450 rpms which actually they were spinning at 475/490 like you said at 7:52 So in conclusion the platinum props on the original mavic are the same rpm as on the platinum mavic and I'd like too see you guys do a battery test on the original mavic with the platinum props running at the lower rpm vs the platinum with the original mavic props. I installed the platinum props on my mavic pro and they are definitely quieter. They don't have the annoying whining, swarm of bees sound that you can hear from a long way off. The big differences are at 50ft, 100+ ft and higher. You can barely hear the platinum props unlike the original ones.
Thanks again... And keep up the great work !!
I would have liked to see the Platinum props on the Mavic Pro for the sound test. Would there be a big noise difference between them? Would it be better to sell the Pro and get the Platinum or just upgrade to the Platinum props?
During the time you guys flew the drones down to 20% should have put in some aerial shots as well a small video. Would have also liked to see the video quality of the camera and photo quality. Need to have a better criteria for reviewing the drones but good work. You guys will get better with time. 👍
The platinum is about 60% quieter which is amazing
I like that you guys are trying to show the differences but I have to disagree with the "scientific" level of your sound test. It looked like the sound level meter was being held directly below or nearly below the drone which would cause a lot of prop wash onto the mic thus greatly affecting the true sound level of the drone. It's likely that the blade design differences cause a different airflow under the drone. Also, just an inch or two difference in distance when so close can cause a significant change in db reading so there should be a method to keep the meter an exact and constant distance from the drone, ideally along a flat horizontal plane to the drone.
Question; Has DJI enhanced the build of the gymbal for the Mavic Pro Platinum to avoid the problems some of the standard Mavic Pro's had?
Is there any data suggesting a better gymbal on the Platinum?
Thanks for the VIDS
Indeed , sound measurment uses a logarithmic scale. Sound is a order of magnitude.
I also think that our ears are more sensitive to high pitch noises.
Therefore even if we had the same decibel noise , but one in lower sound spectrum and one in higher sound spectrum (both discernable), we will still get the impresion that the higher pitched sound is louder. I hope it makes sense.
That definitely makes sense! Thanks for the comment!
The difference isnt just when its hovering. The platinum can preform better and faster and last longer because of its upgrades.
How can you claim an accurate battery flight time comparison when you use Platinum batteries for both? Most original Mavic owners probably have original batteries.
I bet if you used the OG Mavic’s battery against the Platinum’s, there would have been a bigger difference.
like you said, quads a more efficient when moving forward. Also the batts have more potential - hearing the "never been flown" reminded me that new batts need a few cycles to get their full capacity
Thanks Paul. The funny thing is that I've been dinged in the past for using batteries with some flight cycles, so I was trying to avoid that by using new batteries. But your point is a fair one!
That was a great comparison, cant believe you only have 52k subscribers. Did ye test how quiet the old props would be on the mavic pro platinum or are the props the same price so it would almost be irrelevant. Also the mavic pro here is around €1099 and the mavic pro platinum is €1399 here, If a slilghly longer flight time and noise are the only real difference I cant see how that would be worth it here anyway. unless there's different firmware with more features which wouldn't make any sense as there as I cant see why the older one couldn't be updated
How do you know that it wasn't the props alone? Other comparison videos using the new props on the non platinum are gaining 1 minute off flight time as well with the old mavic pro.
Did you use the original Mavic battery in the Platinium?
Yes - They are 100% cross compatible and the same.
Yes, I know ;-) The biggest challenge with a test like that is if you use a new vs. old battery, the capacity might not be the same.
good vid,, I guess what you have to ask yourself, is are those two things worth a hundred bucks? or is it worth it just to say you have a platinum version,, who knows. To me its frustrating that DJI is CONSTANTLY coming up with something else to make money. Period. and I guess keep people working,, (ah hemmm)
Sir, When your Mavic boots, Does it passes through NFZ message ? I've got my Mavic in June 2017. Never fly in restricted zone (NFZ). It allways booted without NFZ. Then in September I visited Alabama Huntsville Space Center. I try to take off with my Mavic. And now after that atempt in Space Center Mavic all-time boots and shows for about 15seconds NFZ message.
Also, some of the sound being picked up in the db meter was probably the sound generated when the air hit the microphone. Needed to keep the mike out of the slipstream to get a good reading.
Well the sound check was a little off due to you yelling out the numbers, 3 decibles is twice the sound level, so 90 decibles is half the sound level of 93 decibles, but the other information was great...Cheers
Thanks again for a great video! I'm a pilot in training, RC plane pilot, and a photographer. I need this drone! Question- If I am flying in safe rural area away from Class B, C an D, airspace and away from ALL airports what is the max altitude for the mavic or Spark?
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most likely 14,500ft. class g varies depending on surroundings
thanks for a great video. Wish I would have seen it before I bought my Mavic drone but I am very happy with it
seems that your new motors are designed for those new propellers. Meaning, its like buying an aftermarket set of props that are quieter for the Mavic pro when in reality, the props are of a higher pitch (speed) than that of the original mavic pro propellers (power). Be willing to bet that the only test the Mavic Pro would beat the Mavic Pro Platinum at is how well it fights the higher winds during flight. Might be why the original Mavic seemed to hover better that the Platinum Mavic.