Do Yourself A Favor! Add Wet Sanding To Your Detailing Arsenal!!
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Generally speaking, when we talk about wet sanding an buffing in the automotive environment, we are looking to get the absolutely best shine out of the paint finish on a car or truck. We are looking to get a true show car finish. Wet sanding is a process where we use special sandpaper that is supposed to be wet with water. Very wet. The water acts like a lubricant plus helps remove tiny particles so that the sandpaper does not get clogged and create deep scratches. Granted, the act of sanding does create small scratches. However we use finer and finer grits of sandpaper to make those scratches smaller and smaller as we get the finish as flat as possible.
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You know you need to quit for the day when you hear your buffer, even when it’s OFF, and you think you still see scratches in you panel your working on. 😴 great video Brian
Lmao spot on 😂
thats why you wear earprotection, but most importent is why you need to take a rest is vibration to your body, :D feel it when you dont even use it
Brian always makes things simple, giving confidence and good advice to new detailers getting into the craft....
Something that might help you. Ive been buffing vehicles and other things I paint for a long time now. You can always pull more depth out of things painted in custom candy and pearl colors no matter how good you and your clear coat gun can spray. Now days i start with Mirka Microstar 1500 and then 2000. They are a disc made for sanding clear that you do not run water with, you run them dry. Then i use 3M Trizact 3000, 5000, and at times will even go 8000 which you use with water to wet sand. The trizact disc last a long time. 1 disc will do a large hood plus the roof of the car. Then wipe of good with a mix of water and 93% isopropyl alchohol mixed at a ratio of 8 parts water to 1 part isopropyl then start buffing with pads and compounds of your choice
In your experience, do you think it's safe to wet sand my factory clear coat with a 2500 grit to cut through heavily (and i mean HEAVILY) oxidized paint and finish with some heavy cut compound and polish?
I don't normally leave any comments but Brian this was one of the best presentations you ever made... Accurate, easy, understandable, and short but to the point, and the method and technique were easily understood and encouraging to try it... Good job. And thank you for having a video that supports taking action and does not intimidate...
Just got in from 9 hours in the shop, buffing and stuff, find a new video from Brian, more education, very cool Brian.
Thank you Brian, you're amazing !!!! I just did a 12 year old Dodge Ram work truck today and it came out great inside and out, 11 hours later..lol. While working today I was thinking I wish I knew how to wet sand and I hope Brian comes out with a video NO JOKE !! I wish I had scene this video before and had the actual materials because there were some scratches I know would have come out with wet sanding which woukd have made the end result that much better. Anyway, the client was thrilled and I just ordered the yellow foam hand sanding block and the Trizact 3000 grit discs. A test panel for me is right way to go before I test my skills on a clients vehicle. I can't say thank you enough for your videos, your teaching skills thst everyone can understand and follow. Sorry for the long message but thanks again and maybe someday I can swing by the shop I am right in NJ. Please keep the videos coming !
Tom
Thank you Tom...I appreciate the kind words.
Lots of vids about wetsanding on Apex. Gave me more confidence to use my DA's for wetsanding. Trizact disc aren't cheap either.
Thanks Brian, always nice to know theres more than one way to skin a cat in ones arsenal.
Brian, what a great and informative video. I have water spots that I cannot get rid of and have tried several products that say they will be gone!!! Well, they are still there so I hope wet sanding will save the day!!!
Detailing is a great way to spend your time and lots of it. Friend of mine lived in a condo that had a garage and that was his past time. Wasn,t married, no girl friend, no other hobbies, and a day trader for a living. This was before the push for all the paint correction tools we have today. Every day he would be doing something on his 2 cars clean, re-polish,wax,seal, reshine the tires, stripe the wax off, do again, etc. I bet he spent 25+ hours a week messing around but thoese cars looked perfect. Then about 20 years ago he met a lady and got married. He drives a Civic and his wife drives a Subaru and at best they get driven thru the cars wash. I would love to ask him about what happened to his passion about keeping his cars show quality but I havent and probably wont.
I'm not the guy, but I went through exactly the same thing with my photography hobby. Although I technically could produce pro photographs and It felt like the camera was an extension of my arm, I got to the point where I definitely decided not to be a professional. After that it all just lost its charm. I often wondered about your question too.
I think having a sense of purpose and meaning behind what you do is essential for long term motivation. There's nothing like applying yourself professionally, putting yourself and your reputation on the line, experiencing the change you make for your customers and the innate beauty of quality workmanship. Take that away and whats left, really?
Thats honestly sad.
I was that way about doing tattoos...my ex/kids mom of 29½ years decides to fk around after I'm out of state working. I've got all my equipment but it's collecting dust...but got married 8-22-24 and this beautiful woman loves me and I'm about to go back to tats.. I'm here for this video to learn more stuff.
You are doing the Lord's work, thank you!
Right on Brian, wet sanding is a powerful tool. The 3M Trizact pads are golden. Good call showing the blending process as well! 👍🏼👍🏼
We all need to ad a cordless Flex to our arsenal. Thanks Brian!
Brian,
Thank you again for sharing such valuable information on wet sanding. I recently bought my wife a 2015 Denali and I am correcting the paint on the entire vehicle. Thanks to your videos over the years, I am skillful and confident in taking on this job. Thus far, I have some fantastic results and at the same time, I am having fun!
Again, thank you so much! One day, I hope to be a master like you:)
Kelvin
Perfect video Brian! This information is invaluable!! 👍
That was fantastic instruction and detail. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Incredibly informative!
Dry, damp and wet sanding by hand and or machine is an absolute must if you want to stand out from the crowd. My favourite discs are 3M Trizact 1,500-8,000 grit (DAMP), Micro Mesh 2500 - 12,000 and Kovax Super Buflex black (dry or wet). Kovax is Japanese and sold in US by Eagle abrasives I believe. Am no master at sanding but I love the results. Sand more polish less is my motto for severe defects and if I owned a bodyshop.
I will prefer to wet sand a heavily defected car, usually just with 3k paper, then rotary and will get minimum clear removal mainly because it keeps temperatures down while quickly removing defects. I make as little work for my DA as I can
Its also worth noting its easier to remove uniform sanding marks so take your time when starting out
I have learned so much from your channel Brian. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with everyone, and keep up the great work!!!
My pleasure!
yes i second that ! i used to be a valet or but has been a long time and you use much more modern technology now so i’ve learnt liiasa from you over the years - just getting back into watching yr channel 👍🏻
daniel
You da man I have a new teacher. I really appreciate this knowledge
Awesome video! Very informative! Thanks
Subscriber for life as of now. Great info especially with the blend. Never would have thought of that
Great video, learned this from you years ago. Saves soooo much time versus trying to grind scratches out and avoids the spikes in heat and saves more clear.
I just love this video and I think your spot on. I recently got into wet sanding after watching a webinar from Meguiars. You both teach the exact same learning points and I am a big fan of keeping the temperature down because I can definitely spike the temperature compounding. Thank you for teaching us newbs!
Excellent video!!!
Very informative video ( as usual) thanks for the great tips!
Definite plus and keep temperatures down like you said~! Love the little palm block you use!
Didn't think I was going to like this video Brian but yet again you pulled me in with great tips
Nice to see your video. Hope you are all doing well. Thanks for the information and education.
Hey Brian, my wife and I are on vacation from Idaho to Niagara Falls and beyond. We passed through Pennsylvania, and I thought wow how much it would be a kick and stop by your shop and pick up some Apex metal oxide ceramic coating. But we are on a schedule, love your videos.
Nice thanks for the education Brian.
Amazing video and topic good friend. I knew ur pneumatic sander was going 2 b used that's ur favorite machine.car came out amazing as always. I did 3 of those was suprised the clear wasn't as soft as most inports come 2day. Valuable and essential skills needed 2 b great detailer. B well good friend
B, love the logo gloves! Everyday or just in the instructional videos? Really nice touch and attention to the minute detail. Thanks for all you do in offering your expertise and knowledge. Well done.
Best video ever. Thank you so much 🙏🙏
Awesome video Brian. That cordless Flex is Epic!! 👍🏻
another great tip from the master. by the way, we missed the shop manager in this episode.
She had the day off.
Thank you for video. Very informative, I'll definitely be going out this week and attempting some trash panels
Great information!
Dude.. You're legend..
Always a great video ✊I have been messing around with wet sanding on a test panel and it’s actually a great idea for you to try
Absolutely helpful! Thanks for the effort!
Amazing work once again Brian. Thank you for the tips.
Awesome video as always Brian. I'm always learning when watching your videos. 🤜🤛🤝 I need to get me some of those disc's.. those are spiffy 😁 take care my friend!
Thank you brother. The red ones are Rupes Sanding discs. clean-garage.com/rupes-x-cut-foam-backed-abrasive-disc-75mm-3-3000-grit/
@@apexdetail85 perfect thank you for the link! 👍
Another awesome video Brian... 👍
Great stuff Brian. Thank you.
Awesome video Brian! I think implementing wet sanding more would greatly help when working on hard clear like many Chevy’s and VW’s. I find myself working tighter in smaller sections to get a better cut but I’m always concerned about spiking temperatures. I’ll keep this video in mind when I coat a customer’s ‘17 GTI in a couple weeks 🍻 cheers buddy
Cheers!
Great video. Wet sanding and arts and crafts 😁
Exelent schooling.👍
I should know this, back years ago i started polish with heavy oxidation car that never wash for years in tropical climate. I spend a day only get few panels with rotary and low quality wool pad. I wish i knew how to do right wet sanding to remove heavy oxidation and cut my time compounding it
NOBODY EVER MENTIONS CHECKING IN OLD PAINT!! AND WET SANDING IT OUT.
Excellent vídeo tutorial. Congrats
True profferuonal!!
Awesome job,! I’m going to practice that system on an old car my friend has which she doesn’t mind. It’s pretty bad. 😬👍
U should charge for these type of videos,great job Brian!!
No way! As an avid subscriber, I’d be broke lol
I am happy with just a simple thumbs up. :)
this is one of the best videos on the internet thanks for making it !!!
Wow, had no idea those dust nibs could be removed. What polish were you using in the video?
Great video!
Great video. I'm learning and trying to decide if I need to try a test spot wet sand by hand with 3000 grit a few spots on a Honda
Thanks for the great detailed info!
Great informative video Brian (once again)! I recall watching a you tube video showing that you should soak the wet sand paper before using. Comments?
It is an option. No harm doing that.
Great work bro
Wetsanding can turn out devastating if not done right.
Fantastic video Brian, thank you so much. I need to add this to my arsenal. What do you think about that Flex cordless forced rotation polisher? I’m looking at that and/or the Makita. My guess is they are both solid. Thanks again Brother. You have been a big part of my journey into detailing and getting into this profession.
Still trying to get windows to be streak free but maybe next year
I've had this problem my entire first year of derailing 🤣finally got through it using 50/50ipa and water and the stoners hard reach tool
I was kidding but I use 50/50 and glass towels
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nicely done once again!
I will have to practice wet sanding on my moms 1979 Plymouth volare
Great video sir
Great tutorial!
Brian, can this process be done for a chip in the paint? My neighbor has a small "deep chip", probably done by a set of keys hitting the upper door area . It's a white newer Lexus 300. Thanks for these videos...👍
Brian. You probably think wet sanding is no big deal. But we beginner's think it's awesome.
Its a big deal....I respect the process.
Sweet
Beautiful
You must have some great compound to just have one step. It takes much longer for me. The 5 step(wet sanding) or 3 step process (3M). After cutting, machine polish and swirl removal. It’s all time consuming.
I dry vacuum sand all the way to 2000 with DA ... This way I can see when the scratch or orange peel is gone.
I found the perfect test panel; my son's 2009 Corolla XRS. It was a daily drive in Chicago, IL. It has every conceivable type of paint damage I could imagine. It is now my project car. I use it to test a few techniques you have shown to be successful. Any suggestions on how to fix hail damage?
This has to be the best channel for learning detailing. Others guys just waffle on and waste time, i just had to unsub. But Apex i learn from all his videos i watch.
Great video buddy wet sand that with 4,000 grit tfs
Mmmn looks good 👍
So, now that you've taken off some of the clear coat, do you need to put it back?
I can see that buffing it would make it appear normal again, but once you clean the buffing left over to put-in a protection coat, for example, or you leave it as is, will it look normal? My thinking is that by taking off the clear coat then it will be more vulnerable to the environment than before.
Super brother
Have you tried the option to fill in the scratch with a paint touch-up pen using the clear coat portion Then use the razor to remove high spots, sand and polish?
I like that cordless polisher. What’s that brand?
The top pro thanks for the information
Hey Brian , can I get your thoughts on using a glass cleaner (I’ve been using invisible glass spray can) as a panel prep before applying protection? I picked this up from the painters at the dealership I detailed at for years. Maybe a test video to see if a proper paint prep makes a sealant or coating more durable than glass cleaner
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Great video Bryan! How much of clear did you remove in the begining of the video while you sand that etching mark? You mentioned very little? Could you tell me when you wet sand with 3000 grit sand paper how much of clear is taken off in microns and of course how much in hard clear and how much in soft clear coats? Thank you again and appreciate so much your educational videos!
Great vid as always Alex! Question: how do you typically tell if a clear coat is on the harder or softer side when choosing a polishing compound or pad?
Test areas....I always do them even if I am confident I know the surface well.
@@apexdetail85 thank you Brian! And sorry I called you Alex earlier 😯
LV500 👌🏻
Where did that chair come from with the armrests and back support? Looks super comfortable for detailing
Awesome Video ! Very detail question where did you get the gloves made ?
Can you wet sand the checked paint on my classic car and then buff it back to shine? Years ago the Cadillacs paint would get checked and instead of painting it the body shop did this and it looked brand new.
I never do any car without wetsand
Hi Brian, I know I’m late to the party but had a few questions.
I’m looking to use 3000 on a few scratches. In your video it looks like you’re using a micro fiber pad. Will a foam pad give you the same results. Say an orange pad ? Do you use a polish or a correcting cream? Thx for any input.
What's the easiest and quickest way to get over spray speckles off paint? Clay bar or wetsand? It's all over truck
Which polisher are u using?
The mini?...or 3 inch?
Great video. Which compound did u use
What grit do I need to use for paint Correction from chemical guys water spot remover. I left it on to long and now u can see where it was left at
Do you prefer that cordless flex polisher or the corded Orbital Flex polisher?
Honestly...the corded orbital.
Thank you for the video. I need to do this to an older Honda I have.
Also, what would you recommend to remove painted pinstripes on an Infiniti ? Would wet sand or eraser wheel work, or is something else better ? They are factory painted.
Such amazing information!
I have a 1 inch scratch on my tailgate when wet sanding I need to do the entire panel? Or just the area of the scratch