Rupes Product Training: E9 - Machine Sanding Application
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He's like the dad that's teaching you something important and making sure you're paying attention to every word he says
Only he's so slow and boring that you end up forgetting.
@@LeonardVidaureAKASkinner 😂😂😂😂😂
@@LeonardVidaureAKASkinner Two bulls, one young, one old, standing at the top of a big paddock looking down at a large herd of cows and heifers. Young bull (you) says to the old bull (the slow and boring instructor) - "Let's run down to the bottom of the big paddock and each of us "talk" to one of the heifers". Old bull - "How about we walk down there nice and slow and "talk" to many of those cows and heifers." You are so excited at the thought of immediate gratification that you'd become bored and forget he was even talking and race off down the hill before he even finished speaking. Poor grasshopper, one day you might understand (or maybe not .....did you even read this far?).
@@DCS21O562 who got a root?
he's little way off with serious attitude importances lol
Hard to believe this was a 2017. The owner took such bad care of this car. Great these guys brought it back to life.
This is the kind of people ( that just for taking the car to a 15 to 25 dollars a month unlimited car wash ) they just destroyed the paint car in lest then one year
@@4autodetail718😂 so true. My dad let my aunt borrow his s580 for a long distance trip and when they came back after 4 days she took the car to a self wash and used the broom mop and micro swirled the shit out of the paint. My dad was livid and for an old man I never see him mad but he was cursing 🤬. Even though he had a kamikaze ism 3.0 coat on it it still got light swirls throughout every painted surface my aunt mopped. Dad ended up paying 1200 out of his own pocket because my aunt refused to cover the paint correction and thought he was overreacting. Moral of the story don’t trust stupid people with your vehicle.
I have been thinking about wet sanding my vehicle. I may try damp sanding by machine instead. I was so pleased to see the results of the sanding did basically no damage to the clear coat or paint but removed all the defects. Absolutely AMAZING!!!!
He use to work for meguairs I met him before at detailers domain they had the rupes representatives he was one of them ,he is a humble dude
@@behindthen0thing iq??? Even the smartest kid cant do this shit lol. Take years of practice knowing heat angles and time. Lots of muscle memory
John Arnold go polish a car. Post vid on youtube. It aint that hard mr bad ass
@@behindthen0thing would say that's higher than you're IQ of minus 80 ?
1800 rpm on dewalt electric polisher/buffer 3m perfect it 1 with wool, #2 with black foam followed by #3 with blue foam and you are done with perfect results in a fraction of the time.
I'm here thinking the same thing....
This method is definitely more efficient.
great video once again, I've learned alot so far!
Thankyou for posting these!
AMAZING VIDEO, How to learn in 30 min. Great job
Amazing. I love this product. Machine sanding the way to go. More even too.
WOW ! This video was Amazing and the Key for sanding. Thank you Matt................ Wes from NJ.
Yes sir!
Awesome video! Liked the way you showed orange peel removal vs leaving the texture (orange peel alone) to show the difference.
big learning for me. The bit on hard paint haze and machine speed makes a bit of sense. interesting depth gauge results too!
One of the best detailing videos online
That was one informative situation thanks for bringing it!
3000wet + cut foam + poli foam its 👍
Thank very much. Lot of. detailed in depth knowledge and a very nice. Good natured instructor. Win win
Wow that's amazing. Lol this makes me a lot more confident about sanding and wet (damp) sanding.
When I hear clear coat being removed, I get nervous ahah. This guy is unbelievable man! Awesome video
No kidding. When I first received a huge Griots Garage gift box from my GF back in the day, that opened up a whole new world for me. I was SO nervous when I first started. As time goes on, you simply gain confidence. It's a learning curve we all must experience at some point. Happy detailing!
I'm very impressed with Jason Rose's training. He is very thorough! I'd love to meet this guy.
He is great.
Been in the bodyshop industry for almost 30 and I have never seen anyone clean a panel before buffing. It does work so much better to clean with ipa and or clay before buffing a panel and getting contaminated off!!!!!
Matt, there’s little information re: proper protection of panel edges and sharp/hard panel lines from burn-through using tape, pad selection, tool pressure, etc. I’ve noticed that some detailers essentially ignore panel edges and run the polisher across panel gaps without concern. Personally I like to tape off panel lines without encroaching too far on the panel being polished. Do you have any information you might share on this topic? I was hoping that this was going to touched on in this video. Thanks
This is wealth of information :D
I believe aggressiveness of sanding (or compounding) also depend on the skills and experience of the operator as well using those tools.
Machine sanding by Jason Rose or hand sanding by Jason Killmer would be way less aggressive than enthusiast like me.
Great video, as always Jason is the man
Im learning a lot about paint correction steps watching all these videos! Thanks Matt for the uploads!
Alot of people wash their muddy, Sandy car with the brush at car washes,their muddy tires especially.All that mud and sand stays in the brush.Then you come along in your beautiful new car,and brush your car with all that muddy sand in the Brush.And when you get home your like😱😱😱😱😱😱
Great video.
A wealth of information.
I’ve started doing the water thing.it’s working well for me
This video just gives me another idea about wetsand
Just remember that all of your bad ideas that you have had, must have sounded good at one point or you wouldn't have tried them out.
This was a very interesting an d educational video, loved it.
Amazing, seriously. Learned so much. Thank you.
Yes sir!
This Video seems to have more accurate information( about this subject ) than any other video on the internet. This Gentleman from Rupes, very obviously has a lot of knowledge and experience, very impressive. Thanks for Sharing.
Yes, these and Larry's @Ammo NYC are the best there is on youtube.
@@asomind Almost all Larry know, knows from this guy, mr. Rose
@@texfromro doesn't mean Larry's videos are not good though.
@@asomind Didn't say that :)
Rupes is a very good detailing brand ! Probably my favorite one ! The products are all incredibly amazing as what they are made for ...
I love the questions asked. This makes it amazing
Had a customer come in with a kia sportage that dint like the onestep for one bit.. oof took me alot more time then i wanted hehe paint came out shining like a mirror at the en doe.
Flating and polishing it's been done in most high profile car manufacturers for many years
Again a very informative video,I hope there’s still lot to come!
If one day I have the ‘balls’ to sand I would definitely go for the system with the foam interface we got to see here.I think it’s more safe to do than handsanding.
I really like the improvement in texture but you have to do the entire car then and that would take a lot of time!
It’s unbelievable that Jason didn’t took more paint of the treated areas. It shows that sanding is not as dangerous as we all would think.
actually he showed what you can do with sanding alone, with sanding and leveling texture. There's a even safer metod for removing orange peel, by using Velvet/Denim pads.
Crrrraaaaazy! My dog just put 3 really nice 8" scratches in my Austin Yellow Metallic!
The type that can be felt with my fingernail and are highly visible.... I rather spend a thousand on products to correct it myself, than several thousand for someone else to do it!
🙏🖤 Thank you for this one!
Well, in the scenario you described, you'd definitly want a professional that has experience/knowledge to attack a restoration like that. 1) They will tell you the cold-hard truth that it's not going to be completely removed (minus methods involving paint, clear) 2) Most likely, they'll do a great job, not burn through the paint, and exceed expectations.
Good to see how far u can take the paint and bring it back.
Why aren’t the holes lined up?
AMAZING VIDEO. Matt you are creating the best videos for car guys. Very clear instructions and so easy to understand. I AM COMPLETELY IN LOVE WITH THESE VIDEOS.
LOVE YOUR DETAILING VIDEO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Thanks man.
I’m not gonna lie, I feel asleep...twice..lol. Great video before dinner and a few drinks....keep up the good work!
Excellent video. Particularly interesting where the difference can be seen between 1500/3000 and 3000 alone.
For compounding out the sanding scratches, I would reach straight for the Mille. I believe it works quicker than the LHR15 used here; more power, less heat, easy to get a consistent movement, smaller orbit getting right to the edges of the panel.
Superb job sir, way you discribe is really superb. Thanks for informactive video.👍👍👍
This is a very well done video and I know the clear coat had to be knocked down in order to remove the scratches and achieve this great finish. I have a brand new car that has mild orange peel that is driving me crazy, and I want to flatten the clear coat as little as possible to improve the look. My question is, since I keep cars for more than 15 years, what will this do to the life of the paint job as far as UV protection etc. ? Will the clear coat start to peel sooner than if left alone and if so, how much sooner? Is the clear coat life in a direct ratio of how much clear coat is removed and what percent of clear coat is typically removed during a mild flattening? I heard clear coat is between 50 and 70 microns. What is the depth of a mild scratch or mild orange peel valley ?
Great teacher very well explained
That foam backed sanding pad is a must have in your bag, if you're a bowler. I have been using those in the 180-4000 grit depending on the lane conditions (to gain or lessen the hook on the ball early or down the lane) on league play nights. very little water is all thats needed, damp like he did it, never knew can be used on car paint....Learn something new every day.....Cool video...Thanx
Hilarious
I was JUST having this debate with someone. I'll have to point them to this video. Thanks Matt!
You'll win this one.
Was there anything on the pad when he was spritzing water on it? Any compounds or just straight pad and water
Awesome demonstration...this video is a must watch for all auto detailers...thumbs up.
However, can you include the names of the products ie; foam disc, compounds, pads etc? really need to add up to our arsenal. thanks very much
can you please give me a direct link for that yellow dry sanding disc in the video at 1:50, please?
this school is great if your getting into detailing or even i guess for tips
which sander is better for cut a clearcoat, Rupes RX 153 A Skorpio E / orbit 3 or 156 A Skorpio E /orbit 6. thanks for advice
Can somebody tell me what materials is he using?
5:00 Foam interface pad? KOVAX BUFLEX 150mm???
5:37 1500grit sand paper he using? Looks like KOVAX YELLOW FILM P1500 150mm???
9:00 3000 grit foam disk??? RUPES 75MM X-CUT FOAM ABRASIVE DISC P3000
Polishing:
RUPES Microfiber Pads
That’s what you called color sanding in the bodyshop, after you paint the car to remove orange peal which he calls texture , and debris that get in the clear , just make sure you have enough of the clear coat to do this .
Hey Matt, I’ve been following your channel for a while. These videos are so informative, I thank you !! Just an idea. But I was thinking it would be awesome if you took this info home and did a project where you bought a few new-ish painted panels and tested how many times a person on average could compound and polish until they burned through the clear. Having one of those depth gauges with be awesome too see the progress of getting through clear. I think this would be an awesome test. You can also test that sanding technique shown in this video ?
Exactly my thought, this would be great to see, but using micron measurements would be better
He sounds like Steve Carell when the actor is being being really calm and serious 😂
Kelly clarkson
I am buffin and polishing my new painted Golf completely. When i would polish that Long on one Point the car would never Be on Road Again. Buff up to 3000. and than take a wool pad on a rotator. You a safer and much quicker.
If there are possible post a links of the 1500 grit sanding paper ? KOVAZX Isn't it? I couldn't find it. please advise. thx
Awesome stuff learning a ton! Dnt understand the dislikes.
Tito Rodriguez - A lot of Rupes haters out there. Ironically, these guys love the Chinese knockoff version of the 21.
I find it amusing that these guys run such successful businesses, but can't figure out how to figure a quality tool into the business budget.
It's either that or they just use the Chinese tools for the sake of being contrary.
danlc95 well i am not a rupes guy im just not and to tell you the truth does Chinese machines are not bad at all. But I do appreciate quality information and a well-made series. Matt is taking me places i just cant afford to go and in a way im getting to listen to people i cant afford to hear lol. I really do appreciate that
Jealousy
Jason Rose is one of the best there is i paint restoration i my opinion. Im a amature but learned so much just by wathing him in action. I hope to se him live someday.
*amateur*
Before measuring the depth of the paint , you need to wait quite a while as after polishing the paint will swell so the readings won’t be accurate
My Rupes Skorpio 3 keeps icing up. Am I using too much water spray do you recon?
No tape lines ;) I like it!
That was quite the learning! Never knew sanding could take off so little. That paint looked rough prior
nobody here thought with brain, so here's why. Panel had paint damage in terms of not so deep scratches, and tons of swirls (those are easily removed). He just knocked off high spots with sanding to get rid of orange peel, then componud + polish. That didn't took too much clear coat indeed. If he had really deep scratches then he will remove much more clear coat over scratch itself + surrounding area to level out.
I would of used 2000 grit after 1500 makes buffing ten times easier and reduces chances of swirls I know since I’m a detailer in a body shop only difference is I usually deal with fresh paint not cured paint but still a great video👍🏻
Funny thing is I just fixed a Toyota Camry last week with these exact same issues on the deck lid and roof and quarter panels
Zach Hicks used to do full cars by hand to get the nubs and orange peal out, on thousands of cars with fresh paint and old paint! Fresh paint is so much softer and easier to deal with! It will knock down faster and melt like butter when polishing, plus you knew how much clear you were dealing with. Now you have meters that tell you how much clear is actually on the car and basically telling you how to approach it. If this car was maintained, meaning that it has been buffed and polished over the years they probably would have hand wet sanded.
word to the wise is 1500~3000 just work the rotary more to get those stubborn pigtails out.
Awesome vid! Couldnt get the water polish though?
Don't let fear hold you back and pull out the rotary.
P1500 is too rough to jump up all the way to P3000, that's why you're having alot of effort removing those sanding scratches, also considering Nissan has a softer type off clear coat?. + You also need to remove the polish residue (IPA or something simular), now the scratches are filled and covered with residue, only this way you can have an correct inspection of your work.
you should've went over the P1500 with P2000-2500 first to remove the P1500 scratches. Would save some compounding too wich makes you take off less clear cut + less risk burning through the clear coat. And yes i'm no youtube expert but a real life experienced bodyshop worker.
Great video.
I’ve always been afraid of sanding procedures. I’ve always stuck to clay bars and different levels of polishes. I guess the best way to learn sanding is to practice on a hood from the junkyard. But I’ve always done really good with my polishing
He right about the using a dA machine is less aggressive u gotta let the machine work for u 👌🏾
How long do the 3000 pads last would you say 2 would go over a hole car. Or would you need more say 1 a panel
Dammmm that was an amazing video😆... learnt a lot in those few minutes. I really wished you used your camera a bit more so we can get to see the close ups while the process is going on... but it all it was truly amazing. Thanks a lot Buddy👍😊... I was really looking forward to seeing the end results. 😯... show it next time please👍
I find results are hard enough to see in person. The camera never shows it well.
What was the dry sandpaper you were using? who manufactures it and where can I buy it. Also, where do I buy the backing interface for the air sander
Great video! Thumbs up. 👍
*Question: Which polisher was using in the video LHR-15 or LHR-21?*
Thank you in advance.
So I guess this process counterintuively (to me, at least) preserves more clear coat than going at it all day with a rotary or DA alone to achieve the same result (if that's even possible)? Now I feel like I need to get the whole air sanding setup to perfect my 2015 Chevy Equinox that I bought used for $15,000. It's as much a disease as any other kind of addiction. Thank God for Harbor Freight. 🤣
Me personally I always loved the 3M perfectit System and you can go all the way up to 5000 in the 3m Method. Way better than rupees
Just hit it with the Dewalt rotary with Meguiars 100, follow with a meguiars dmc5 pad and Correction compound , follow with a dmf5 pad and finish wax .. Done
cut with the rotary finish with the DA. no wax.
What’s the explanation for polishing at such a slow speed? Wouldn’t a higher speed give a faster cut? Just curious.
He’s sitting there with that foam pad and the amateur detailer inside of me is screaming “NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!”
amazing training series matt.......
Thanks man!
would like to get in to this some more. top job great vidio.
The old black dude willie that buffed for my shop would have the whole car done mirror shine no scratches at all with a foam pad in the amount of time tool man took to do a ft size area of the trunk
O.o? what happened to the "wait 10 hours before measuring again the paint thickness" ?
Amazing, Amazing, Amazing......
What kinda of paint does nissan use oem from the factory?
I've seen you can use 1500-3000 grit to make a blend panel with new paint
Matt, is that an Extech CG204 Thickness Gauge?
Super Arbeit aber FLEX Maschine ist die Beste! alles gute from Austria!
i could honestly rock that sanded but not polished matt look.At least it wont get scratched as easily
It would be porous..absorb shit like no other
I have a demo rupes skorpion 3 non vacuum model that I’m testing at work. I noticed the speed dial needs to be like 3/4 of the way up before the sander will even move. Is that normal or is this one defective or need breaking in? Also would it be ok to use the 6mm for a do it all prep and finishing sander? By that I mean for leveling mud, primer, and the final clearcoat finishing? I’m mostly going to be using this sander for the finishing but if I can get away with using the 6 for both then I may start with a 6 and get a 3 down the road. If not then I will just start with a 3 now and get the 6 and maybe even a 9 down the road.
Great information
sorry i didnt understand the last bit, when he said remember we had some haze. does the haze need to be tackled using a compound or polish? or is it water using the existing polishing foam pad with a little product already on it, from previous use.
This paint on the Nissan is tricky to get to finish properly. We would have to address that with a finishing polish.
I have a honda which has similar paint i still get buffer trails after using finishing polish.
how do i fix that?
also how do you fix it on harder paints like audi and VW
25:05 i still see so cloudyness
If you use 1500, 2000 and 3000 sand and then coumpound and glass polish as finish will be a glass mirror
Try 1500 dry
1500 wet touch up spots
3000 dry
Compound then polish
He just destroy that paint...
@@soso94940 How?
The rupes polishes and compounds tend to dust a lot, I was polishing some interior panels and the dusting was quite bad and as I can see here the dusting is bad
Removing orange peel is so satisfying
Rewatching this. Matt, next time you talk to Jason would you ask him why he gauges in mils and not micron's if you wouldn't mind. By my math a difference of .1 mils should be 2.5 microns of paint. I bet you'd see bigger variances between sections gauging in microns. How much? I don't know but.....
I also like using micron measurements.
what type of blow-off gun is that? I know that isn't a tornador. with the full handle trigger, looks AMAZING!
It was something from Asia, that Jason found.
I just ordered the s145epl, what paper works best and why can I find it? My local paint store doest carry dry sanding disc designed for a vacuum system. Any help is much appreciated.
Mirka
That is pretty nice I always thaugh the texture on the new cars was just me
Orange peel
That’s impressive
So glad I stumbled on this video. I’m “dipping my toe” into the detail side and loved this!!! Great video!!
😄 finally it got the answers...even professional compound still produce heist...
@text-3708 you teleport your price by recite "Toba" 3 times...there some random agent who collect and send to me ...but you need to write the name is Adnan
I want to hear him narrate an action book on audible