Nice review. A couple things: 1) it’s kind of irrelevant to call out that the 6.8 is the “entry level” engine when you compare it to the 6.6 because the 6.6 is the only gas engine available for GM. 2) personally I think there’s no good reason to have the 6.8 and the 7.3 engines for Ford. I’m not against options BUT their performance is going to be nearly identical. It’s going to take having them side by side or a timing system to tell the difference. I understand about the tow ratings but that’s typical Ford. Limit the lower trim to prop up their 47 high trims. 3) I do wish GM would offer a 4 something rear end just so everyone would shut up about it lol. It however would make zero difference at highway speeds, elevation or not. The engines are still going to be rpm and mph limited based off the final drive ratio of any given transmission gear. So long story short, 3rd gear in the 3.73 Ford is nearly identical (slightly shorter) than 4th gear in a 4.30 Ford. 3rd gear with a 3.73 pushes the engine to nearly 5,000 rpm at 60+ mph speeds. So 3rd gear with a 4.30 is not possible at those speeds. You will be out of rpm at that final drive ratio. Why people can’t comprehend that is just mind boggling. The L8T is very popular and has proven to be the more reliable engine as compared to the 7.3. They both debuted the same year and everyone forgets not every gas Super Duty from 2020-2022 was a 7.3. Ford still offered the 6.2. Every gas GM is the 6.6 so I guarantee there’s more L8Ts out there than 7.3s. And they still win on reliability. The 7.3 has had a few hiccups. Some minor and some major.
I'd like to see where you are getting your reliability info, as the 6.6 motors are already showing signs of excessive wear due to extreme oil consumption. Lifter issues have been affecting multiple manufacturers, including chevrolet, and Ford has rolled out a pcm update for their variable oil pump. From what I've seen the L8t's are showing lifter issues tens of thousands of miles before the Fords.
@InuranusBrokoff : Have not heard of lifter failures in the L8t at all. Please provide a source to research it . Maybe you're thinking of gm engines with afm like the 6.2 and 5.3 liter v8s ?
I own a 2023 F250 XL w/STX package. 6.8L V8 engine and 3.73 rear axle. 3822 Ibs of payload and 14,100 lbs towing. I've towed my 32' 8,000 Ibs travel trailer with no issues. Going up the Tejon Pass it wàs happy at 3500 rpm. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of higher trim levels but the STX package is very well equipped for a $58k super duty.
@@oldnumber6pretty much. Reports of issues with any of these modern powertrains are always exaggerated. The manufacturers sell so many of these things, and everyone has a camera and can document and upload stuff that it seems like your percentage chance of getting screwed is WAY higher than it actually is.
@@eric3030 Its hard to say what was going wrong in the engine of his Ford but I do recall him cutting open the oil filter and that was not pretty and one can only guess it was into a similar failure mode that a number of those engines had which Ford was aware of and trying to deal with.
I love my 2022 Chevy 2500 HD 6.6, with the 6 speed gm transmission - not that Duramax expensive crap...my gas milage pulling a 12 ft trailer with 2 mowers gets 14-15 highway. City it'll get around 11-12. Weight inside trailer id say is around 3-4k pounds. Not pulling nothing, I got it all the way to 20 miles per gal once. 6.6 gas is a gem and I absolutely hate how ppl think they need a diesel to pull. Why pay $1 more per gallon and repairs on a diesel are always much more expensive.
@joshuarussell718 that's not bad, wonder what the 10 speed gets. With my 2020 l5p pulling my 35 foot 5th wheel I can get 12, empty 22-23, our best is 29 (wife driving), the extra buck doesn't bother me. And the extra cost doesn't bother me simply because the diesel will always cost 8-10 grand more meaning it holds it value better
Ford either builds the 6.8 to free up space for the 7.3 up the trim chain OR sees the 7.3 as a huge cash cow to tack on extra $$. The 6.8 being unavailable on XLT/Lariat is interesting, considering those trims can also be used for "light" heavy-duty work.
I have the 23 version of that ford except its white. Xl, stx, 6.8, 3.73 gear. 26k miles so far no issues. I do use it for work and tow with some frequency. 8-9k lbs is no issue, can even pass people. The max I've towed was 11500 and you can do it but its definitely working to do so. Max tow rating is 14k for my truck. I would have gotten the 7.3 if I had known about the different transmissions at the time. Also my 23 has a 37 gallon tank not a 34. Dont know what changed in the one year.
I think the XL superduty like in your video with the STX package has to be the best looking lower trim truck ever. It gives any of the trim levels a run for the money IMO. Of course it looks extra good sitting beside the Chevy.
JB I just traded my Chevy 6.6 for the Ford 7.3. My biggest complaint with the Chevy was capless fuel, the headlights are terrible, and a creaky rear leaf springs. So far so good with the 7.3 and I absolutely love the front end!
I bet the seats are way better too. My cousin has the f250 Lariat and the seats are amazing. I have a 2020 1500 Silverado and they are hard as a rock and narrow. I may be switching back to Ford. Im not brand loyal, just want a reliable Truck
My work truck is a 03 2500 6.0 gasser with 315k miles no engine or transmission problems yet only maintance and minor issues like water pump fuel pump etc
I've owned Gmc & Ford, the comfortability, ride and quiet ride definitely goes to Ford, and nowadays a cab is like your living room, phones and devices running, I'm staying with the Ford
@@cstgx wrong. The 2024 6.6 was towing more weight than the 7.3 and it was a fifth wheel compared to the test they did a couple years ago with the 7.3. You forget important details.
@Billybob50119 the 7.3 will outperform the 6.6 any day. The Ford transmission is far better built than the chevy. Look up the teardown on here. The Ford transmission makes the Allison look like a half ton transmission.
I just walked away from buying a new chevy gas 3/4 ton truck because i didnt like how easy and how much it shifted down. Chevy needs a full manual mode not a gear limiter in there transmission.
Maybe people don't care about this but my HD truck is also my daily driver. The 6.6 is sluggish. The 7.3 is fun to drive. That made a huge difference for me. The 6.8 seems kinda pointless for Ford tbh. If they are using it to try and keep the price of the XL lower, it ain't workin 🤣
What gears do you have? I’m in the market for low mileage ‘22+ F250 with 7.3 and debating if I should get the Tremor with the 4:30’s or if the 3:73’s will do the job and still have that pep down low.
Yes, there are XLTs showing up on lots of dealers now with the 6.8 engine. I'm wondering if there is really any difference in gas mileage with the same rear end.
We need to see which truck can out pull the other. We need some straps/chains/rubber bands etc… Put them in gear and give it full throttle to see who has more pull. Just don’t tell the dealer.
For daily driving and light towing (under 1,000lbs) the Chevy should do fine without too much struggling. For medium to heavy towing, I'll use a Ford or Ram.
The brilliant engineers who decided the new trucks don’t need a fuel cap have never driven on a gravel road! You would think for what you must spend on a new truck, they could at least put on a gas cap!
I've more than one review complaining about the truck in the video HAVING a gas cap as the reviewer had gotten used to NOT having one and now had to do something they were not before. Just goes to show, no matter what, someone will be unhappy lol.
What is so bad about direct injection? I think with a catch can and using top tier fuels any negatives are negated. It’s more efficient and has been used for years. I think people who have issues are people who don’t do regular maintenance and drive like they are at Daytona every day.
@Stlchevy Toyota and others use both types of injection at the right rpm. DI tends to carbon up top ends. You can inspect with a camera through a plug. Also once a year do a top end clean out procedure. One like Sea Foam offers.
I beg to differ about that 7.3 gas motor in the Ford being better than the 66 gas motor in the Chevy. Ford has had some major issues with that 7.3 blowing up.
@@Billybob50119 You didn't search very hard, Di, turbo or not, still suffers from carbon buildup on the backside of the valves. This is a very well known issue.
The 6.6 downfall is its direct injected give it a couple of years and you'll have all kinds of issues just like Kia and Hyundai with their direct injection.
Well it's not a Kia or Hyundai idiot! N I work on everything. Can't say I ever ran across any GM direct injection problems even with vehicles hitting 150k miles. Ur comment is totally stupid in multiple ways.
There is nothing wrong with direct injection. Ford uses the same technology in most of their EcoBoost engines. Keep idle time to a minimum and you’ll be just fine.
I have a 2015 Direct Inject 5.3 Z71 4x4 crew cab with 161k miles. Never had any problem and runs like brand new still. And AFM works perfectly. I have a catch can installed, and once a year, I run valve clean thru it. I use Liqui Moly truck series oil additive. The only issue with direct inject is that the gas doesn't flow over the valves to keep them clean, so direct inject can have valve gunk buildup.
My Ford's better than both for one reason.. well maybe 2 lol At least in my opinion. 1. I don't have to worry about all that electronics crap that make cars run today, pour a little gas in the carb and she's good to go. 2. It's mine, fully paid for and it's a classic lol
Oh my gosh that ford engine bay looks horrible definitely a freaking nightmare once you start working on that lol. I’ll take Chevy and ram just based on that alone lol.
F-150 does beat the silverado and sierra in one thing having the highest fatality rate of all cars/trucks. Makes sense on how all these ford guys got brain damage must have smacked theyre head on the takata airbag that or they caught a peice of shrapnel or something.
Nice review. A couple things:
1) it’s kind of irrelevant to call out that the 6.8 is the “entry level” engine when you compare it to the 6.6 because the 6.6 is the only gas engine available for GM.
2) personally I think there’s no good reason to have the 6.8 and the 7.3 engines for Ford. I’m not against options BUT their performance is going to be nearly identical. It’s going to take having them side by side or a timing system to tell the difference. I understand about the tow ratings but that’s typical Ford. Limit the lower trim to prop up their 47 high trims.
3) I do wish GM would offer a 4 something rear end just so everyone would shut up about it lol. It however would make zero difference at highway speeds, elevation or not. The engines are still going to be rpm and mph limited based off the final drive ratio of any given transmission gear. So long story short, 3rd gear in the 3.73 Ford is nearly identical (slightly shorter) than 4th gear in a 4.30 Ford. 3rd gear with a 3.73 pushes the engine to nearly 5,000 rpm at 60+ mph speeds. So 3rd gear with a 4.30 is not possible at those speeds. You will be out of rpm at that final drive ratio. Why people can’t comprehend that is just mind boggling.
The L8T is very popular and has proven to be the more reliable engine as compared to the 7.3. They both debuted the same year and everyone forgets not every gas Super Duty from 2020-2022 was a 7.3. Ford still offered the 6.2. Every gas GM is the 6.6 so I guarantee there’s more L8Ts out there than 7.3s. And they still win on reliability. The 7.3 has had a few hiccups. Some minor and some major.
I'd like to see where you are getting your reliability info, as the 6.6 motors are already showing signs of excessive wear due to extreme oil consumption.
Lifter issues have been affecting multiple manufacturers, including chevrolet, and Ford has rolled out a pcm update for their variable oil pump. From what I've seen the L8t's are showing lifter issues tens of thousands of miles before the Fords.
@InuranusBrokoff : Have not heard of lifter failures in the L8t at all. Please provide a source to research it .
Maybe you're thinking of gm engines with afm like the 6.2 and 5.3 liter v8s ?
I own a 2023 F250 XL w/STX package. 6.8L
V8 engine and 3.73 rear axle. 3822 Ibs of payload and 14,100 lbs towing. I've towed my 32' 8,000 Ibs travel trailer with no issues.
Going up the Tejon Pass it wàs happy at 3500 rpm. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of higher trim levels but the STX package is very well equipped for a $58k super duty.
Just got a 2024 basically identical to yours. How’s it holding up so far?
I love the sound of the Chevy gas, it reminds me of the old vortecs
If you look up Automotive Inquiries he had a 7.3 Ford and Chevy 6.6 gas and he said the Chevy is the winner. Plus his Ford was showing lifter issues.
He never proved anything. That dude was garbage his views show that
I enjoy his HD gas content, but ya he didnt show or prove anything was wrong with the 7.3 he had
I watched his videos for awhile, but he just kept rambling on for 20 minutes and never showed any results.
Both trucks are capable. Buy what you like.
@@oldnumber6pretty much. Reports of issues with any of these modern powertrains are always exaggerated. The manufacturers sell so many of these things, and everyone has a camera and can document and upload stuff that it seems like your percentage chance of getting screwed is WAY higher than it actually is.
@@eric3030 Its hard to say what was going wrong in the engine of his Ford but I do recall him cutting open the oil filter and that was not pretty and one can only guess it was into a similar failure mode that a number of those engines had which Ford was aware of and trying to deal with.
I do love my 6.6 gas chevy
What do you get for mileage?
I love my 2022 Chevy 2500 HD 6.6, with the 6 speed gm transmission - not that Duramax expensive crap...my gas milage pulling a 12 ft trailer with 2 mowers gets 14-15 highway. City it'll get around 11-12. Weight inside trailer id say is around 3-4k pounds.
Not pulling nothing, I got it all the way to 20 miles per gal once.
6.6 gas is a gem and I absolutely hate how ppl think they need a diesel to pull. Why pay $1 more per gallon and repairs on a diesel are always much more expensive.
@joshuarussell718 that's not bad, wonder what the 10 speed gets.
With my 2020 l5p pulling my 35 foot 5th wheel I can get 12, empty 22-23, our best is 29 (wife driving), the extra buck doesn't bother me. And the extra cost doesn't bother me simply because the diesel will always cost 8-10 grand more meaning it holds it value better
@@michaelcopeland8985no way you get 29. Must’ve been rolling down hill.
@@ghilliemanreviews wife was driving, happened once, baced on a 50 mile average.
Ford either builds the 6.8 to free up space for the 7.3 up the trim chain OR sees the 7.3 as a huge cash cow to tack on extra $$. The 6.8 being unavailable on XLT/Lariat is interesting, considering those trims can also be used for "light" heavy-duty work.
JB, is it a 4.30 rear end gear, or a 4.10? Thank you.
I have the 23 version of that ford except its white. Xl, stx, 6.8, 3.73 gear. 26k miles so far no issues. I do use it for work and tow with some frequency. 8-9k lbs is no issue, can even pass people. The max I've towed was 11500 and you can do it but its definitely working to do so. Max tow rating is 14k for my truck. I would have gotten the 7.3 if I had known about the different transmissions at the time. Also my 23 has a 37 gallon tank not a 34. Dont know what changed in the one year.
One thing about Ford is if you don’t like the engine there are plenty more to pick from.
And all r garbage. So what's ur point?
I’ve been waiting for this video JB. Thank you and looking forward to your testing video.
You can get the 6.8 in other trim levels if you add the natural gas option
I think the XL superduty like in your video with the STX package has to be the best looking lower trim truck ever. It gives any of the trim levels a run for the money IMO. Of course it looks extra good sitting beside the Chevy.
JB I just traded my Chevy 6.6 for the Ford 7.3. My biggest complaint with the Chevy was capless fuel, the headlights are terrible, and a creaky rear leaf springs.
So far so good with the 7.3 and I absolutely love the front end!
I bet the seats are way better too. My cousin has the f250 Lariat and the seats are amazing. I have a 2020 1500 Silverado and they are hard as a rock and narrow. I may be switching back to Ford. Im not brand loyal, just want a reliable Truck
Which one is more reliable? That's all I want to know for my work truck. Give me 300k and I'm happy
Both of these should be able to hit 500k with proper maintenance
@@PeytonPoole-k9u 500!!?? Seriously?
My work truck is a 03 2500 6.0 gasser with 315k miles no engine or transmission problems yet only maintance and minor issues like water pump fuel pump etc
@@santiagogomez1254 I had a 6.0 that almost made it to 300k. Great engine. My 5.7 tundra is almost there
I've owned Gmc & Ford, the comfortability, ride and quiet ride definitely goes to Ford, and nowadays a cab is like your living room, phones and devices running, I'm staying with the Ford
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Ford and GM built/engineered that 10 speed transmission together. Idk where Allison comes into play.
TFL tested the 7.3 vs 6.6 on the Ike. The 7.3 absolutely destroyed the 6.6. Not even close.
Might look at the most recent test with the 6.6 with the new ten speed. It’s very close
@Billybob50119 the new 2024 6.6 was over a minute slower than the 7.3. Thats not close at all. Plus the transmission was very hot.
@@cstgx wrong. The 2024 6.6 was towing more weight than the 7.3 and it was a fifth wheel compared to the test they did a couple years ago with the 7.3. You forget important details.
@Billybob50119 the 7.3 will outperform the 6.6 any day. The Ford transmission is far better built than the chevy. Look up the teardown on here. The Ford transmission makes the Allison look like a half ton transmission.
@@Billybob50119 ruclips.net/video/FUmxJ-6pRpk/видео.htmlsi=LDianoCTG5DqUEyJ
Ford transmission is far superior
looking forward to the next video..
The 6.8 ford all day especially with the long bed and larger fuel tank! That’s a good looking ford truck
I agree
Test drove F250 lariat and the transmission made loud clunking noise on every down shift. Sent us to the Chevy.
I just walked away from buying a new chevy gas 3/4 ton truck because i didnt like how easy and how much it shifted down. Chevy needs a full manual mode not a gear limiter in there transmission.
Maybe people don't care about this but my HD truck is also my daily driver. The 6.6 is sluggish. The 7.3 is fun to drive. That made a huge difference for me.
The 6.8 seems kinda pointless for Ford tbh. If they are using it to try and keep the price of the XL lower, it ain't workin 🤣
What gears do you have? I’m in the market for low mileage ‘22+ F250 with 7.3 and debating if I should get the Tremor with the 4:30’s or if the 3:73’s will do the job and still have that pep down low.
Keep up the great work, JB.
Ford allows you to delete the 7.3L for the 6.8L for a $1,705 price reduction on the XLT build.
Does anyone know if the 6.8 is a OHC or Push Rod engine?
Push rod engine
I saw on fords website just barely they are showing the 6.8 as an option for the xlt as well as the xl.
Yes, there are XLTs showing up on lots of dealers now with the 6.8 engine. I'm wondering if there is really any difference in gas mileage with the same rear end.
I just bought a 2024 F-250 XL Off road package. I run 93 fuel ⛽️
What kind of fuel injection do these motors have? Thank you.
We need to see which truck can out pull the other. We need some straps/chains/rubber bands etc…
Put them in gear and give it full throttle to see who has more pull. Just don’t tell the dealer.
Ford has been having way to many engine failures. Haven't heard of any problems with the gm.
Early gm engines were burning oil pretty good. Mine hasn’t.
Gm has literally been failing engine before the first oil change for YEARS now.
The 5.3 V8 has numerous issues all due to the Active Fuel Management
@@jeremygaillard5924 I thought we were talking about HDs. 🤦♂️
@@jeremygaillard5924 Talk about fuel problems might aswell talk about fords new 7.3 v8
For daily driving and light towing (under 1,000lbs) the Chevy should do fine without too much struggling. For medium to heavy towing, I'll use a Ford or Ram.
You can run E85 in the Chevy?
It’s a $100 option.
Ford engine bay looks like crap
Like a bowl of spaghetti 😂
Always have still do
Always! The hoses are always everywhere! I looked underneath the hood of a Bronco 2.7 and was like wtf!?😅
Look at the Powerstroke equipped truck under the hood😬🤬
Agreeed, these company’s certainly don’t make them to work on!
The brilliant engineers who decided the new trucks don’t need a fuel cap have never driven on a gravel road! You would think for what you must spend on a new truck, they could at least put on a gas cap!
I've more than one review complaining about the truck in the video HAVING a gas cap as the reviewer had gotten used to NOT having one and now had to do something they were not before. Just goes to show, no matter what, someone will be unhappy lol.
Are any of these engines direct injection? I am trying to avoid that.
6.6 is DI. Ford 7.3 is port injection. I think a catch can on a DI engine would go a long way into avoiding issues DI are prone to.
What is so bad about direct injection? I think with a catch can and using top tier fuels any negatives are negated. It’s more efficient and has been used for years. I think people who have issues are people who don’t do regular maintenance and drive like they are at Daytona every day.
@Stlchevy Toyota and others use both types of injection at the right rpm. DI tends to carbon up top ends.
You can inspect with a camera through a plug. Also once a year do a top end clean out procedure. One like Sea Foam offers.
3:32 "at or below sea level" 🤔😂😂
I beg to differ about that 7.3 gas motor in the Ford being better than the 66 gas motor in the Chevy. Ford has had some major issues with that 7.3 blowing up.
Wrong
Yep tons of issues with the Ford V8s
Wrong. Show us the issues😂
@@Billybob50119still waiting on you to show us even after you changed your name.
@@freedomisntfree_44 lol he's just a troll
Gm is direct inj. That's NOT what you want in a work truck. Carbon on valves is a guranteed issue
Wrong
@@Billybob50119 uh, no. That's a fact. Feel free to do 3min of research and prove yourself wrong.
@@NOFBDYBS did a search, nothing about the 6.6. 99% about DI turbo motors
@@Billybob50119 You didn't search very hard, Di, turbo or not, still suffers from carbon buildup on the backside of the valves. This is a very well known issue.
@@NOFBDYBS let me know how many 6.6s you find with an issue. Thousands with over 150k and never touched.
Ford 6.8
I thought that Ford and Chevy went together to Designe the 10 speed Transmission
Waiting on the performance comparison video
I love your videos
The 6.6 downfall is its direct injected give it a couple of years and you'll have all kinds of issues just like Kia and Hyundai with their direct injection.
Well it's not a Kia or Hyundai idiot! N I work on everything. Can't say I ever ran across any GM direct injection problems even with vehicles hitting 150k miles. Ur comment is totally stupid in multiple ways.
A couple years? The 6.6 has been out since 2020 lmao.
There is nothing wrong with direct injection. Ford uses the same technology in most of their EcoBoost engines. Keep idle time to a minimum and you’ll be just fine.
I have a 2015 Direct Inject 5.3 Z71 4x4 crew cab with 161k miles. Never had any problem and runs like brand new still. And AFM works perfectly. I have a catch can installed, and once a year, I run valve clean thru it. I use Liqui Moly truck series oil additive. The only issue with direct inject is that the gas doesn't flow over the valves to keep them clean, so direct inject can have valve gunk buildup.
Good stuff..
Technically Allison no longer exists. Allison (military) was bought by Rolls-Royce over a decade ago.
u sound exactly like organic chemistry teacher
The 6.6L Gas Chevy if NOT Flex Fuel... You can’t run E85 fuel in them.
JB 7.3 was wrong 7.3 comes 2x4 xlt
God I hate Chevy's, which is sad because they had a good pickup before 06
My Ford's better than both for one reason.. well maybe 2 lol At least in my opinion.
1. I don't have to worry about all that electronics crap that make cars run today, pour a little gas in the carb and she's good to go.
2. It's mine, fully paid for and it's a classic lol
who gives a flying fuck about the sound ? , performance and reliability is what i want ...i bought the Ford ...they have always been good to me
I need both for my boomer ED and chronic micropenesia. Young guys at work told me it worked for them.
Okay so you don’t like trucks 🥱
Not sure what talking about penises, ED, and the “young guys” you hang out with does though.. you do you, girl.
6.6 L8Ts have oil consumption issues..
Have no problem with mine. Never have to add oil between oil changes.
@@earlybird7402 National Highway Safety as a bulletin on the issue with the 6.6 L8T. Same issues the 6.2 Gas motor the 1500s are plagued with.
Oh my gosh that ford engine bay looks horrible definitely a freaking nightmare once you start working on that lol. I’ll take Chevy and ram just based on that alone lol.
Ford all day everyday.
Bruh the Chevy has a check engine light on already 😂
Chevy trucks are terrible looking.
Direct injection only on GM V8s are trash!
Hows the 7.3 fuel system? Clogged again?
@@DirtMcGurk troll
@@cstgx greg your fat
@@DirtMcGurk Russian troll
@@cstgx hows the transition to bud light?
Ford engine is powerful but looks like spider web .😂😂😂
Chevy looks cheap next to that Ford
Well ford is godzilla Chevy is King Kong that killed Godzilla
i would never buy G M ///
Not to mention Ford has the lowest resale value of any truck
F-150 does beat the silverado and sierra in one thing having the highest fatality rate of all cars/trucks. Makes sense on how all these ford guys got brain damage must have smacked theyre head on the takata airbag that or they caught a peice of shrapnel or something.