Went with the 6.8L with 4.30's in a 24 F250 XLT. Power is great, 15 to 16 mpg on 70 mph hwy. Very smooth shifting and power delivery. Live at 7200' of elevation and the F250 platform handles our 3 horse trailer much better than a F150 would.
I would like to see a 7.3 gas with 4.30 gears vs a 7.3 with 3.73 gears compared. Fuel economy & torque/ power. Basically a gas Tremor vs a superduty non-tremor 7.3 gas
6.7HO 500 hp 1200 ft-lbs and 21 mpg @65 mph on flat terrain unloaded. 12 mpg towing a 13k travel trailer @65 on flat ground. Rarely downshifts. It's a beast
on my 03 6.0 with almost 250k All original minus 1 used ipr valve straight piped egr unplugged edge tuner s&b air filter motorcraft diesel 10w30 oil 21.75 mpg @65-70mph 13mpg towing gross 20k. after working on new stuff there is no way I'm buying new.
If you look at Fords website to build a 24 super duty and look at the interior pictures as you build it, you can get an xlt with the 6.8 and the xlt premium package, get the power heated seats, center console, and the analog gauges. If I could buy one of these trucks, I'd get that exact setup in Antimatter Blue, 4.30 gears, spray in bedliner, gooseneck package, and the gray 20" wheels.
I have a 24 xlt 6.8 3.73 premium package black appearance package factory bedliner 20 inch wheels get 16 mpg on cruise 75 mph unloaded . Sounds very good and shifts like a dream very smooth. I tried both 7.3 and 6.8 the one I bought hands down suits me better very capable truck
I love my 2024 stx 6.8. I test drove the xlt 7.3 first. I did like a few of the upgraded options but loved the analog dash gauges and less frills options. Still has all the things I wanted. Steering was smoother and lighter by far over the 7.3 I test drove. I don’t know if it had issues or what but it was brand new.
I wish I knew if ford was updating the super duty instrument cluster and have the standard large screen for all trims like they did on the 2024 f150. That’s kind of what I’m waiting for. I don’t need a $70,000 xlt just to get the large screen
They have different transmissions. 6.8s have a regular 10 speed and 7.3s have the bigger heavy duty one shared with the 6.7 diesel. The biggest difference is the heavy duty will automatically shift into neutral when you're stopped with your foot on the brake pedal,preventing all the wear that would normally occur from being stopped in gear.
My 19’ 6.2 is set up almost identical to the 6.8. I’ve never hit 20 mpg on mine but got 18 on a nice day with flat land. Around 15.5-16 on average. Mines got the 6 speed though. Just breaking in with 90k on it. If these 2 motors stay issue free the way 6.2 has been then Fords got another big truck winner on its hands. I know the 6.2 had some early issues but got worked out like it sounds they did with these 2.
I live in New England and bought the 73 long bed. 373 gears and driving Country Hill roads back and forth to work 28 miles each way I am averaging 15 Mi per gallon by calculator. I only average 55 mph.
Low pressure light is on because you're below the 58psi threshold on the rear tires. Mine go off as soon as I get below 58. The rear tires are supposed to be above 65 to 80.
80psi empty will wear the centers out in the rear. Ford publishes one air pressure at max weight like you are hauling a 14k lb load. I have had 4 super duties over the last 25 years. 60 in the back 68 in the front, and I get 80k out of Firestone Transforce. That's cross rotating the front to the back and moving the back tires to the front every 10k. I ran a Firestone store for 5 yrs while in college and went through Firstones traing centers for service management. It works. Also, if I could run 55 empty in the rears without the pressure sensors barking at me, I would.
Former 2020 F250 XL wSTX 7.3/3.55 owner here. The 10R140 was horrible: violent shifts, loud shifts, dead pedal, slow shifts, skip shifts (design "feature"), torque converter apparently going out when traded it in. I test drove a 24 F250 7.3 XLT and 24 F250 6.8 XL w STX. Different transmissions (10R140 vs 10R80) same experience; harsh shifting... I don't know if that was indicative of future issues with these transmissions but after a horrible experience with my 10R140, I passed on both. It's unfortunate, since the 7.3 is such an awesome HD engine.
@@CTECH-REVIEW drive a Ram 2500 6.4 with the ZF transmission. The ZF is world class. The 6.4 isn't the 7.3 but I would (and did twice now) take the 6.4/8HP75 over the 7.3/10R140 combo, I hate the 10R140 that much.
You talk about the shift and feel of the 6.8 and 7.3 transmission I believe the 6.8 is same as in f150 and 7.3 is the torque shift thats in the 6.7 diesel
Did ford ever fix the cam/lifter issue in these engines? There is absolutely zero information regarding that, and I wouldn't touch either until I had proof they'd fixed the issue.
Just like what kali said, it has something to do with low oil pressure when idling for long periods of time-mostly its fleet work trucks that are affected by this issue since they left on idle. A personal truck that spends most of its engine hours driving on the road and not idling, will very unlikely see that problem.
I have a 2024 F 350 STX XL with the 7.3 liter. I found that I get a bit better fuel economy on normal mode. My average MPG isn't as high but I.live in the Northeast so I'm dealing with a lot of hill climbing. As far as the few thousand dollars extra goes. It makes a big difference in interest when you finance monthly payments. As far as the transmission goes. The 7.3 liter used the same 10 speed that the 6.7 diesel uses, so it's a bit more robust than the transmission that's in the one with the 6.8 liter.
Could you do a comparison of the f150 console vs bench front seat? How much more comfortable is the bench seat arm rest vs the console. Because I do like the column shifter and versatility option with the sixth seat. Just as a daily using that as an arm rest is it really that much worse? Thanks, love your channel 👍🏻
the front seats are the same bucket with console and 40/20/40 seat with the fold down console. the fold up console sits alittle higher than the console. it feels really odd that inch or two higher
That XLT is a premium package Test an actual XLT, and the interior features are about the same. You get a power seat and a couple other add ons that way, no digital dash
People have become much too sensitive and snooty when it comes to new vehicles and thinking that they need all of these fancy options. There's no reason that anyone needs half of these options. The prices are absolutely insane as well.
Guys, what axle ratio do you suggest if i get an F350 crew cab XL with offroad package? Intended use is infrequent landscape trailer pulling with maybe 5k or less load, light off road for hunting and fishing and slide in pop up camper weighing in with all gear at less than 3k patload and pulling a Lund 16 Alaskan...that would be my highest payload and towing requirement. I am thinking 4.30s as i am coming from an xlt Powerboost with tons of power but no payload. Thanks and happy new year.
The 6.8 with the 10R100 transmission will skip shift 1to3 and 3to5 when empty. The 10R140 will not skip shift, it hits every gear on the way up. I think the 10R100 is a much more appropriate setup for drivers who daily drive their pickups and tow occasionally. The 6.8 is flex fuel capable. Not sure why the 7.3 can't be flex fuel capable. They are basically the same.
I do like the bench seat upfront whish it was a full bench seat meaing the it's like how the old school seats used to be it was a not separate it was a full on bench seat from the driver all the way to the passenger. I wish ford would bring that type of seat back I do dig the middle but also i would like to see a full bench seat. That's just me but I would get the XL Off Road in a 7.3 it would be a long bed option in a F-350 then if I wanted a Diesel I would get a used OBS style Ford so you don't have to worry about DEF. That's what I would do. don't mind having a key it does not bothering me at all I have no issues with having a key I don't complain about it because I have no problem or issues with having a physical key I could careless about that. I think people complain way way too much over that if you don't like having a physical key then don't buy one with it but don't be babies or complain over it not everyone is gonna agree with me not everyone is gonna agree with the complainers.
@CTECH-REVIEW totally true great video by the way have you reviewed an XL OFF Road trim in the Super Duty's just curious by the way stay safe and I enjoy your videos.
Ford has long had a tendency to keep their auto transmissions in the highest gear possible. You almost have to want it to kick down before it will do it. This goes back, at least, to the C6, maybe even the C4. For example, if i accelerate from lets say 55-70 using only the cruise control, on flat ground, my F150 wont drop out of 6th (its the 6 speed) however, i can do the exact same thing in the same spot with my wifes Tahoe, and the Tahoe will downshift, a lot, it really wants to wrap up. Ford and GM have always had very different philosophies regarding their transmissions shifting.
The ford interior just looks cheap, everything thing you see and touch is hard plastic, maybe that’s why I keep buying Ram or Chevy/GMC. I like the look of the ford but I really wish they would upgrade the interior quality, I will give them kudos for the double sunroof though 👍
Went with the 6.8L with 4.30's in a 24 F250 XLT. Power is great, 15 to 16 mpg on 70 mph hwy. Very smooth shifting and power delivery. Live at 7200' of elevation and the F250 platform handles our 3 horse trailer much better than a F150 would.
Sounds like you found the perfect truck for your needs!
How many MPG towing that trailer?
The new STX super duties are my favorite trucks on the road. Glad to see reviews of these with the gas engines
Thanks for watching! I love the STX!
I would like to see a 7.3 gas with 4.30 gears vs a 7.3 with 3.73 gears compared. Fuel economy & torque/ power. Basically a gas Tremor vs a superduty non-tremor 7.3 gas
You will love the next video….
I like the analog gauges a lot more than the cartoon looking display in the higher trims
Me too!
@@CTECH-REVIEW Me three
Ok me four
6.7HO 500 hp 1200 ft-lbs and 21 mpg @65 mph on flat terrain unloaded. 12 mpg towing a 13k travel trailer @65 on flat ground. Rarely downshifts. It's a beast
Sure is. I love my HO!
on my 03 6.0 with almost 250k
All original minus 1 used ipr valve
straight piped egr unplugged
edge tuner s&b air filter
motorcraft diesel 10w30 oil
21.75 mpg @65-70mph
13mpg towing gross 20k.
after working on new stuff there is no way I'm buying new.
Great second part on this series!
Thank you for the comment and thank you for watching
If you look at Fords website to build a 24 super duty and look at the interior pictures as you build it, you can get an xlt with the 6.8 and the xlt premium package, get the power heated seats, center console, and the analog gauges. If I could buy one of these trucks, I'd get that exact setup in Antimatter Blue, 4.30 gears, spray in bedliner, gooseneck package, and the gray 20" wheels.
Sounds like a great build! Antimatter blue is a fantastic color.
the 24 order books are closed. have to order a 25 and who knows what they changed with those options
As someone who drives a white 2018 f150 XL with a coyote under the hood I can appreciate the plain Jane’s. I love my XL it’s a fukn missile.
Nice truck!
I have a 2024 XL with the off road package. At 55 I average 18.2 mpg. At 70 I’m averaging 16 mph. It’s an awesome truck
What motor & rear end?
@ it has the new 6.8 and 3.73 gears
Great fuel mileage for a truck like that! I love that off-road package.
@ yeah it’s sweet.
I have a 24 xlt 6.8 3.73 premium package black appearance package factory bedliner 20 inch wheels get 16 mpg on cruise 75 mph unloaded .
Sounds very good and shifts like a dream very smooth. I tried both 7.3 and 6.8 the one I bought hands down suits me better very capable truck
I love my 2024 stx 6.8. I test drove the xlt 7.3 first. I did like a few of the upgraded options but loved the analog dash gauges and less frills options. Still has all the things I wanted. Steering was smoother and lighter by far over the 7.3 I test drove. I don’t know if it had issues or what but it was brand new.
That’s interesting about the steering, I haven’t experienced that myself but I’ll keep that in mind for future reviews. Thanks for watching!
The sound difference is due to the fact the trucks have different exhaust. The 7.3 has a extra resonator
That’s a good point, thanks for pointing that out!
I wish I knew if ford was updating the super duty instrument cluster and have the standard large screen for all trims like they did on the 2024 f150. That’s kind of what I’m waiting for. I don’t need a $70,000 xlt just to get the large screen
Stay tuned for video posting soon!
@ 10-4
They have different transmissions.
6.8s have a regular 10 speed and 7.3s have the bigger heavy duty one shared with the 6.7 diesel.
The biggest difference is the heavy duty will automatically shift into neutral when you're stopped with your foot on the brake pedal,preventing all the wear that would normally occur from being stopped in gear.
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t know that was a feature on the 7.3!
? Really?
My 19’ 6.2 is set up almost identical to the 6.8. I’ve never hit 20 mpg on mine but got 18 on a nice day with flat land. Around 15.5-16 on average. Mines got the 6 speed though. Just breaking in with 90k on it. If these 2 motors stay issue free the way 6.2 has been then Fords got another big truck winner on its hands. I know the 6.2 had some early issues but got worked out like it sounds they did with these 2.
And a Banks Pedal Monster makes these monsters even more fun to drive!!😉
I've heard good things about the 6.2's reliability!
6.2 is probably one of the most bulletproof motors ford ever made
I live in New England and bought the 73 long bed. 373 gears and driving Country Hill roads back and forth to work 28 miles each way I am averaging 15 Mi per gallon by calculator. I only average 55 mph.
Thanks for sharing your real-world experience!
You’ll have to do that same test again some time in the new year when the 2025 7.3s with the 10R100 become available.
Absolutely that’s on my radar!
@ awesome! Can’t wait!
Low pressure light is on because you're below the 58psi threshold on the rear tires. Mine go off as soon as I get below 58. The rear tires are supposed to be above 65 to 80.
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep that in mind for next time.
80psi empty will wear the centers out in the rear. Ford publishes one air pressure at max weight like you are hauling a 14k lb load. I have had 4 super duties over the last 25 years. 60 in the back 68 in the front, and I get 80k out of Firestone Transforce. That's cross rotating the front to the back and moving the back tires to the front every 10k. I ran a Firestone store for 5 yrs while in college and went through Firstones traing centers for service management. It works. Also, if I could run 55 empty in the rears without the pressure sensors barking at me, I would.
Former 2020 F250 XL wSTX 7.3/3.55 owner here. The 10R140 was horrible: violent shifts, loud shifts, dead pedal, slow shifts, skip shifts (design "feature"), torque converter apparently going out when traded it in. I test drove a 24 F250 7.3 XLT and 24 F250 6.8 XL w STX. Different transmissions (10R140 vs 10R80) same experience; harsh shifting... I don't know if that was indicative of future issues with these transmissions but after a horrible experience with my 10R140, I passed on both. It's unfortunate, since the 7.3 is such an awesome HD engine.
I’ve heard others mention this, I will have to do some more research on it.
@@CTECH-REVIEW drive a Ram 2500 6.4 with the ZF transmission. The ZF is world class. The 6.4 isn't the 7.3 but I would (and did twice now) take the 6.4/8HP75 over the 7.3/10R140 combo, I hate the 10R140 that much.
Don't know why they don't put the leather wrapped steering wheel on the xlt superduty they do in the xlt f150.
I agree! They need to bring back the leather wheel to the Super Duty!
You talk about the shift and feel of the 6.8 and 7.3 transmission I believe the 6.8 is same as in f150 and 7.3 is the torque shift thats in the 6.7 diesel
You're right, they have different transmissions!
Did ford ever fix the cam/lifter issue in these engines? There is absolutely zero information regarding that, and I wouldn't touch either until I had proof they'd fixed the issue.
I am not sure but I don’t think I have heard of these issues on the 23+ refreshed truck
I've heard it's the variable oil pump. Long idle times where oil pump has lowest pressure is the common scenario
Just like what kali said, it has something to do with low oil pressure when idling for long periods of time-mostly its fleet work trucks that are affected by this issue since they left on idle. A personal truck that spends most of its engine hours driving on the road and not idling, will very unlikely see that problem.
I have a 2024 6.8 it has 750 miles on it and i noticed that it’s slow going from park to drive or to reverse.
Thank you for your comment and for watching.
I have a 2024 F 350 STX XL with the 7.3 liter. I found that I get a bit better fuel economy on normal mode. My average MPG isn't as high but I.live in the Northeast so I'm dealing with a lot of hill climbing. As far as the few thousand dollars extra goes. It makes a big difference in interest when you finance monthly payments. As far as the transmission goes. The 7.3 liter used the same 10 speed that the 6.7 diesel uses, so it's a bit more robust than the transmission that's in the one with the 6.8 liter.
Sounds like a solid setup! Which gearing did you get?
@@CTECH-REVIEW My truck came with the 3:73 e locker gear ratio.
The 6.8 and the 7.3 have different transmissions in them is why they feel different
That makes sense! Thanks for watching!
They have 2 different transmissions is why it felt different
Yes, definitely noticeable
Could you do a comparison of the f150 console vs bench front seat? How much more comfortable is the bench seat arm rest vs the console. Because I do like the column shifter and versatility option with the sixth seat. Just as a daily using that as an arm rest is it really that much worse? Thanks, love your channel 👍🏻
Great idea. I will do that. I am all about highway comfort for the elbows.! Thank you for watching
the front seats are the same bucket with console and 40/20/40 seat with the fold down console. the fold up console sits alittle higher than the console. it feels really odd that inch or two higher
That XLT is a premium package
Test an actual XLT, and the interior features are about the same. You get a power seat and a couple other add ons that way, no digital dash
I will do that next time for sure
People have become much too sensitive and snooty when it comes to new vehicles and thinking that they need all of these fancy options. There's no reason that anyone needs half of these options. The prices are absolutely insane as well.
I agree. Only option I really love is back up cameras for hooking up trailers!
When buying a heavy duty pickup I run the powerstroke diesel
I can understand that, great engine!
Guys, what axle ratio do you suggest if i get an F350 crew cab XL with offroad package? Intended use is infrequent landscape trailer pulling with maybe 5k or less load, light off road for hunting and fishing and slide in pop up camper weighing in with all gear at less than 3k patload and pulling a Lund 16 Alaskan...that would be my highest payload and towing requirement. I am thinking 4.30s as i am coming from an xlt Powerboost with tons of power but no payload. Thanks and happy new year.
4.30s would be awesome for towing. You may just want to confirm you can get that gearing with the off-road XL package though.
Thanks, sir, for your fast and wise response! I was hell-bent on diesel but now see these gas engines as viable options for my use case.
I’d much rather have a key than a fob. If it’s too much of an effort, you probably don’t need a heavy duty truck anyway.
Thanks for watching!
The 6.8 with the 10R100 transmission will skip shift 1to3 and 3to5 when empty. The 10R140 will not skip shift, it hits every gear on the way up. I think the 10R100 is a much more appropriate setup for drivers who daily drive their pickups and tow occasionally. The 6.8 is flex fuel capable. Not sure why the 7.3 can't be flex fuel capable. They are basically the same.
my 10r140 skips shifts all the time. my 21 did also. up and down.
Thanks for the info, I learned something new today!
@@timtroia3785 thanks for the info. My experience was exclusive with the 24 models.
My 24 does skip also. The 21 and 24 are still the 10r140
If GM would bring back the 8.1 I would trade my 7.3 in heartbeat
Too bad that motor is gone! Beast
8.1 was garbage
I do like the bench seat upfront whish it was a full bench seat meaing the it's like how the old school seats used to be it was a not separate it was a full on bench seat from the driver all the way to the passenger. I wish ford would bring that type of seat back I do dig the middle but also i would like to see a full bench seat. That's just me but I would get the XL Off Road in a 7.3 it would be a long bed option in a F-350 then if I wanted a Diesel I would get a used OBS style Ford so you don't have to worry about DEF. That's what I would do. don't mind having a key it does not bothering me at all I have no issues with having a key I don't complain about it because I have no problem or issues with having a physical key I could careless about that. I think people complain way way too much over that if you don't like having a physical key then don't buy one with it but don't be babies or complain over it not everyone is gonna agree with me not everyone is gonna agree with the complainers.
Great comment. Thank you for shairing. A ton of truth in this. It’s great to have so many options because everyone wants something a little different!
@CTECH-REVIEW totally true great video by the way have you reviewed an XL OFF Road trim in the Super Duty's just curious by the way stay safe and I enjoy your videos.
Ford has long had a tendency to keep their auto transmissions in the highest gear possible. You almost have to want it to kick down before it will do it. This goes back, at least, to the C6, maybe even the C4. For example, if i accelerate from lets say 55-70 using only the cruise control, on flat ground, my F150 wont drop out of 6th (its the 6 speed) however, i can do the exact same thing in the same spot with my wifes Tahoe, and the Tahoe will downshift, a lot, it really wants to wrap up. Ford and GM have always had very different philosophies regarding their transmissions shifting.
Good point, it is definitely different!
Do they both take regular fuel ?
Yes. And 6.8 can take certain blends more of ethanol. Trying to confirm if it will take e85
@@CTECH-REVIEW yes it will. it should say flex fuel on the cap
Oh no!! A keyed ignition!? Like the 1900's!?
Haha yup!
How about we put some fuel in. Driving around on Empty is horrible for fuel pumps.
All trucks had gas put in before video started. Sometimes the gauges on new trucks take a bit to calibrate.
Now redo it with a full tank of gas! You’re testing it with 600lbs less weight
That is a great idea for a future video!
I just wish you could order stx pkg with carpet delete but no you can't
That is a bummer!
I would take the 68 in the S. T x package to me, it looked like a bad truck
Thats a great truck!
The ford interior just looks cheap, everything thing you see and touch is hard plastic, maybe that’s why I keep buying Ram or Chevy/GMC. I like the look of the ford but I really wish they would upgrade the interior quality, I will give them kudos for the double sunroof though 👍
I'm not a fan of the hard plastics either!
6.8 is better
6.8 is a great engine! Thanks for watching!
It,s draw both are complete junk.
Thanks for watching !
What a nice guy, they let you borrow the truck for your review that you make money on and don’t have the decency to put fuel in it 🤦♂️
I use my own gas for all the reviews and this was a very interesting comparison. I appreciate you watching!
Don't make anymore vids on this topic. We all know the 7.3L Godzilla wins. Its just too bad it has faulty lifters.
89 k on my personal 2020 truck and 162k on our 2021 hot shot truck. No lifter issues or any problems either motor. We are getting 2 more in 2026.
Those issues were from 20-21, they have address the lifter issues since then.
I’m more interested in the notorious transmission issues.
I got one more left! You might enjoy it! 😁. Thank you for watching!!
@@CTECH-REVIEWdon’t listen to that guy. This is really good!