The King - Duel Scene
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2020
- The King 2019
Young Henry V encounters deceit, war and treachery after becoming King of England in the 15th century, in the aftermath of his brother's death.
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I like the fact the armour did its job. No cuts went through
Which is why it's kinda stupid they try go for cuts instead of wrestling and using the dagger from the get go
Better off with Maces, hammers and daggers.
Axes or maces would have been a much better choice. I personally like axes because of the extra weight, the cutting edge, as well as the typical blunt end on the backside
Not like they actually hit each other besides that hilt hit towards the end.
@@Giggle971 because higher chance of death, back then they usually tried to give them trauma on parts of the body and then kill them
It’s not everyday that you see a modern movie portraying realistic knight duels
Honestly! Less flashy sword swings and more of just two men trying to kill each other
Yeah... it's not realistic.... there are a lot of problems with how they fight considering their armors... I mean compared to other movies I think it's half decent
@@alexthepunk84 care to elaborate on why you say this isn’t the closest to realism?
@@Jknight416 @JohnKnight416 sure, no problem. I just wanna say first that I'm just a combat, armor and weapon enthusiast and a practioner as well.
What bothers me with this scene is :
1 - They fight with sword while wearing plate armor (I mean this has been done in history for duels so that's okay, just not the most efficient weapon against an armored opponent)
2 - They use cutting techniques with these swords. Why? A sword wont cut through steel and padding so basically every cut that they do is only a loss of energy (also they seem to wildly flail their swords at each cut)
3 - Why would you punch an opponent on the ground while he his at your mercy ? Not only it is not efficient but it might hurt your hand also (there is generally a lot less padding if any on the hand protections). There are a lot of other things that you can actually do instead (especially when you still have your sword in your hands, you just won the duel basically).
4 - The blade geometry of these swords are odd for this time period (the point is broader and has almost like angles which isn't something contemporary)
Also the guy with the decorated cuirasse has the mail of his sallet hanging way too low leaving an opening to his throat, pretty dangerous.
Also they don't have any protection for the back of their upper legs which is quite dangerous to say the least.
How they should have done the fight to look more realistic :
- Use thrusts instead of cuts, grab your sword with a hand on the handle, a hand on the blade (almost like a spear, this is called "half swording"), attack the articulations and the gaps of the armor, while using your sword to block or deviate thrusts from your opponent.
- If you opponent is down, don't punch him, take your dagger and finish him by opening his visor for example of jamming it in one of the gaps of the armour.
- Use an appropriate sword (with an oakeshott type XV blade for example)
I hope I showed you the unrealistic points about this scene (who tries its best to be realistic still)
@@Jknight416 here is a video explaining the points that I made : ruclips.net/video/U4Iho1Z625w/видео.html
That's probably one of the most realistic fights you'll ever see on the screen. Sloppy, desperate, losing their swords, out of breath, falling down, and by no means graceful.
So much realistic that one of the protagonist wasn t even here in the real History and their mail chain werent even covering their neck correctly....easy to stab under the chin 😂😂😂😂
That must have been so heavy fighting and moving around in all that plate armor. Not surprised they got exhausted so quickly.
@@rockhaze actually it had to be manageable weight, otherwise they would wear it to battle. It being extremely heavy and not allowing movement is a myth
@@pilky_boooi They usually weighted 15-25kg and were very flexible to move with. Not that heavy for those used to it but can be quite exhausting for someone who has not been used to for extra weight when moving and crawling and fighting. But people during those times usually had very high stamina for doing all kinds of physical chores all day.
@@TheAns51 I'm not saying it wasnt exhausting, I just want to repel any myths about "armor being so heavy the knight had to be put on his horse with help of multiple people."
Though I'm sure I couldn't properly move in plate armor
"Imagine a King who fights his own battles. Wouldn't that be a sight."
ACHILLES
Carolus Rex
The last King who fought in battle
@@Madjo-qj2ge I was chosen by heaven say my name when pray to the skies see carolus rise!!
lol
@@Madjo-qj2ge
Frederick the Great? George II?
0:43 I love his attitude. He so clearly doesn’t want to be there and doesn’t wanna fight at all. His body language and face just say “fuck, here we go.”
You fight when the necessity arises
Shame its done by a weak pathetic overated actor...
@@mariospanna8389 im sure you could do so much better
@@mariospanna8389 dude he was a great actor in this wym
@@HelloThere..... How? this is not how knights or kings were? read some history books educate yourself. Any king/wannabe king this weedy does not fight...
The slow Crysknife penetrates the armor. Bless the maker, bless his coming and going. And bless the producer who selected timmy to play Mua'Dib
Ya Hya Chouhada.
It's a rondel daggar.
not a crysknife
Mua’Dib! Mua’Dib! Mua’Dib!
@@lanceleader163 My planet Arrakis is so beautiful when the sun is low. You can see spice in the air, drifting over the sands.
Really found myself enjoying the whole duel but especially the opening half-swording move at 1:12. Tons of medieval literature talks about knights dueling being more like wrestling too, with grappling and tripping and beating. Too much armor to just slice someone like a movie, you gotta wear out the other guy so you can finish them or get them to yield.
Just wish they would have kept it standing for longer like in Zweihander I dont think a knight would be so quick to discard his sword, but a great scene none the less
@@esg3451 they're young and inexperienced though and full of emotion, I like how it portrayed that, as well as the adrenaline dump making them knackering in just a few minutes, when I used to box I'd get the same thing in the first round and feel fucked even though I could easily do 3 3 minute rounds in sparring.
@@rentalsnake6542 I hear that
Medieval style mixed martial arts involving full armor, contact weapons, and period-correct duel codes are actually very popular in many countries, particularly USA, Russia, and Japan. Participants don real armor and beat the crap out of each other with real swords and battle axes. And yes, participants get injured too. It is not for the weak stomach. Contests often end with authentic medieval cuisine and feasts. I recommend anyone interested to check them out. The Japanese events are particularly fun, as you got knights battling samurai and the festivities include both European and Japanese food and art and culture.
I've read that too. Plenty of fights did come down to pinning your opponent on the ground and methodically cutting his neck. The armor by this time was almost too good for a sword to do the job.
Dude hookin the sword around the legs for the grapple is PURE GENIUS
didn’t even notice that, thought he was just going for a double leg but that’s a cool detail
It's not though, it makes no sense. There's no armor there to protect his hamstrings or his femoral artery. Going for the grapple is pure idiocy at that point. There's no chainmail, because it would have been worn between the metal plates and the cloth gambeson, and there's none present on the backside of his suit, so all Henry had to do there was draw his sword across the legs, cutting his hamstrings rendering him unable to stand as he cannot support his weight, and potentially cutting deep enough to nick or rupture his opponent's femoral artery. The fight should have ended at 1:17 because of this move, but because "muh gritty medieval everyone punches everyone because they're all dumb" it continues.
@@Polarisk2106 It doesn't look like it would have been that easy, anatomically or practically. How _sharp_ do you think either of those swords are? The main cutting power from those types of swords required swinging them, and letting their weight carry to lop parts off or chop into bodies.
Now we have to look at how he was being beaten and struggling to maintain that hold, I don't see him shimmying back and forth with his arms while major blows come down on him. Now, he should have pulled the other dude's dagger after he took him down the first time and ended it there, if he saw it.
It's really basic actually lol.
@@georgea5991
>how sharp do you think those swords are
extremely fucking sharp
The Wheezing and heavy breathing really did it for me. As a HS Wrestler, we had 3 2-minute periods, which was up from 3 1.5-minute periods in Middle School. It took some getting used to. I *think* College might be 3 minutes, then 2 and 2 ... ANYWAY - people have NO IDEA what it's like to go 101% of your abilities in heated battle against someone else giving 101% themselves. *AND THAT DOESN"T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT* a motherfucking suit of Medieval Armor and sword etc. This was a very realistic scene to me and it's a damn shame Hotspur had to die so quickly, he was a badass in this. But so was Hal, of course.
Many people DO know what it is to exert yourself like that. Most boxers, for one thing.
In our Dojo, we had "stations" spread down the hall.
At the word of command, we would each take station, then sensei would say either "Right" or "Left" and then "begin"
And we would make running passes from station to station up and back down the hall, and keep it up till someone tripped and fell from exhaustion. Sometimes you would have 20 attacks, sometimes more.
@@uncletiggermclaren7592 most people dont train bro
@@logankowalyk2580 He didn't say "most people" buddy.
He didn't even say "Many people", sport.
He said "people have NO IDEA what it's like to" and that is just asinine.
( If that last word confuses you, go look in a mirror )
@@uncletiggermclaren7592 bro you good?
@@uncletiggermclaren7592 OP made a general statement regarding peoples' lack of knowledge of fitness, and you got offended and tried to brag about your martial arts training. You ok?
What were you expecting, twirling of the sword and amazing footwork - men who don’t get tired as well.
This is as realistic as a knight duel gets.
except in reality they'd be using polearms, not swords, because as this fight depicts quite well, swords are essentially useless against plate armour unless you go through the gaps. grab a warhammer with a spiked tip and smack and stab your enemy!
Both of you are wrong lmao. This duel is not realistic at all and no, a duel between two knights would not have used polearms. And no, swords are not "useless" against plate; they are just applied differently.
@@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 and what makes you an expert on this?
@Timothy House If you had even bothered to do any research on the subject you'd realize my comment was true and you could have spared yourself the 2 seconds you used to make this comment.
@@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289
Your taking this to seriously - I think it’s safe to say duels, not all duels but some looked like this during that time period.
Realistic yet entertaining. Great movie
The duel itself? Yes
The movie? Except for the year and place the battle took place, historical accuracy is terrible
@@sachoune3416 fool; it’s based off the play by Shakespeare, it’s mean to be accurate to the PLAY not history
@@Bornst3ll3r I was answering to guy who spoke about the realism of the movie, I know what it's based on
@@sachoune3416 Not even the duel is all realistic. They really should be halfswording with those swords and better yet, using polearms. The only good part is when they tussle on the ground and henry stabs percy with his dagger. The armor in this movie looks like grandpa joes buttcheeks. Forgive me, they do halfsword but for a second and then thats it.
@@tannerthepanman9202 I get what you mean
What I meant to say is that it is at least a little bit more realistic than in most movies
Goes against what we all thought is a PROPER fight, but this scene , including them barely breathing, is the real deal.
Especially the ending with Edward tripping him, and ending it with a small knife.
I think it’s one of the reasons they used big lances and big swords only in tournies back then.
Can’t really kill a fully armored knight with these weapons.. well mostly.
Lances used in tournaments after the 1450s are pre-broken. They are designed to break upon impact and shatter into thousands of pieces for theatrical effect. By the 1450s, the "Attitude Era" of chivalric tournaments was over and kings and nobles started placing more emphasis on making sure participants don't die or get too seriously injured.
@@BlueSkyCountry And typically you'd rather them yield or wound for ransom later
Henry V
Who's Edward? This is a dual between Henry V and Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (although it never actually happened irl).
@@albuseisenhorn3385 You wouldn't really kidnap another participant and hold them for ransom though...
The fact that every fight and every battle in this movie is so unrefined and realistic is what made this movie so great.
I also like how the rivals are portrayed. You've got the British actor playing the French King and the French actor playing the British King.
He isn't French he was brown in NYC. He is literally American.
@@nothing-oj1szFrench heritage
@@nothing-oj1szhis Dad is French and I believe he carries dual-citizenship. Timothee is a little French alright
hah that is interesting
Very well made scene. The poniard, or long dagger like the one used here, is to European knights as the tanto, or very short katana, is to Japanese samurai. Both are hidden on the wearer and when a duel devolves into grappling and one or both fighters lose their swords, a poniard or tanto is often deployed to lethal effect. One might think that this may have been considered "dishonorable", but surprisingly, it was not, because such a tactic took place DURING the course of the combat, and thus was not considered an ambush or cheap shot. In China and Korea during this same time, duels were fought at 21-40 paces with bows. The Chinese dueling code was very similar to the western code of the handgun duel which came later in the 1700s. If an arrow fired by either side caused death or injury, or missed, but inflicted sufficient enough fear to compel one party to call off hostilities, the duel was over, and further combat or ambush occurring outside the sanctioned dueling window would be regarded by the law as assault, attempted murder, or murder.
Are you sure it’s not a rondel?
@@terriblycharismaticduck2717 Could be. They are very similar in general profile. Rondels resemble one of those early muzzle bayonets and some were actually made to function as bayonets for the early arquebusses too. Shove the handle into the barrel after firing your one shot and now you got a pike. Poniards are essentially mini-swords. Sword like handles, crossguards, and hilts. In a duel, you'd be a little better off with a poniard as you can use the crossguard to catch and deflect your opponent's blade. They make awesome letter openers as well for a gentleman who wants to be extra classy. Both existed alongside each other and were used by everyone from peasant to king. In the USA, frontiersmen of Scot and Welsh heritage took the poniard to another level and introduced a type of hunting knife called the Arkansas Toothpick, which was one of the most popular big knives carried by tough men in the Old West right up to the Prohibition era...
He got the dagger off one of the men in line
It's a Rondel, it was also used by the English at Agincourt. Poniard was not invented for another 100 years after the hundred years war.
Could also be a misericorde, although they're usually attributed to French soldiers.
i love the brisk, almost careless way Henry closes his visor while readying his sword. tells you without telling you that he might be kinda scrawny and he might be a bit of a wastrel, but the dude was still a warrior born.
wastrel
Before this the guy took a fuckin' arrow straight to the side of the head. On top of that he had to go through absolutely horrific surgery. Bro definitely had his share of war before he was king.
That was great acting. The face of a guy who is about to enter a life-or-death fight - but the movement of someone who has done this during hours and hours of training!
The brutality of a real fight can't be outdone. I haven't seen this movie yet but I've watched this scene a bunch of times. It's so accurate to the manuscripts it honestly looks like a legitimate duel between two monster athletes and warriors. Well done. I shall now enjoy this film.
I Seriously recommend the movie, it's more political than action packed but that's why I loved it. Not to mention the fight scenes are brilliant because they're not full of explosions and graceful sword fights. It's a dog pile and a mess but with strategy. More realism than anything. I highly suggest you watch it.
You have to watch it. It’s a must. Especially in this barren wasteland of shit films. Also if you did let us know how it was for you
@@SirMorlett yeah it was good but nothing on par with this. Something bout the cinematography in this one was so realistic almost even horror like
If you are expecting an accurate depiction of the Battle of Agincourt, you are going to be disappointed. It's not a bad battle sequence it's just not accurate.
@jasonscottjenkins I agree, there were some movie tropes I didn't like. I'm kind of over seeing archers shoot directly into the air to be honest. The movie wasn't bad, and it had some really strong points; However it did fall flat.
If you pause at 2:22, you can see the sword going straight for the connection between the helmet and breastplate. And since that area is protected by chain mail, slashing is not going to deal too much damage, so he is going for a thrust. Very accurate fighting, much better than other movies where they are slashing around, making cinematic but useless moves.
i hate it when in movies or series a hit with a sword is basicly instakill for every guy in full armor.
Like its a fking lasersword or something.
Jesus christ does people know how fking solid hardened leather is???
Lol, it's way less deep than that. Swords are literally made for thrusting lmfao, it's just Hollywood fucked up every sword fight ever by making it theatrical and having them do big, dramatical slashing.
@@ZZubZZeroNot only for thrusting. If it was their sole purpose, they wouldn't have sharp sides would they? A spear is made for thrusting, sword is both a thrusting and slashing weapon - the second form od fighting comes handy when controlling unarmed peasants with forks
@@graullas8981 I never said "only" or "sole purpose"
Agreed! I studied the Longsword for over 3 years under the Ringeck and Liechtenauer schoolbooks with an ARMA master, so knowing a little about the techniques always makes me super critical of flashy movie-moves where they treat Longswords like lightsabers.
If you watch carefully at the strike you're referencing at 2:21, you can see him use half-sword with his grip on the _Starcke_ of the blade (the area just above the _Ricasso_ ) to align the sword's thrust axis with the visor, very accurate choreography!
This scene was filmed on an island of the river Danube right next to my home town! :)
Hungary?
@@lionelhutz5137 Yup
So, did you saw the BTS of this scene?
this is honestly one of the most realistic sword fight I've seen in a movie
sides Sandor beating the shit out of the Lannister men in that Inn
@@rear9259 idk about that but i really enjoyed the choreography and realism in the fight with Brienne which happened only on the show, very brutal as well
Really, alright we will make another
Lies, Lancelot’s attack on Swamp Castle was just on point….
King Henry V was a badass, this was an awesome historical movie and Timothy Chalamet has a a brilliant career ahead of him.
seen him in dune. amazing. now about to watch this movie
Yeah so badass he shit himself to death lmfao
It wasn't a historical movie though, it was based on Shakespeare's play.
@@mrkiky Whatever artistic liberties were taken, the Battle of Agincourt did indeed happen with Henry V fighting in the battle.
Was he the one that killed the wifes?
Funny how it's realistic and still tense and entertaining. It's almost like we don't need all the faff.
I loved that it quickly devolved to a fist fight
More like love making
It was so badass
the most accurate depiction of man on man combat in armor during the middle ages. fighting has never been nor will it ever be pretty. it's two great apes trying to kill each other by any means available to them.
This was so much better than all the fake unrealistic fights we have seen plenty of times in other movies
“an event as pivotal as this one, should be ample equipped to penetrate the fog of time elapsed”. The most epic line in the movie.
ruclips.net/video/pIogayDlzmQ/видео.html Here's the scene where he said the line.
That sword roll while he puts his visor down.
That time when Paul Atreides, Tommen Baratheon and Aegon II were in the same movie 😅
Was expecting like anakin vs obi wan, but I do like how it turned into more of an actual fight😂
a couple things i really like that i dont think anyone is mentioning
one the music or almost lack thereof, its just a low hum that seems to go on throughout the entire duel. it isnt this loud explosive music but instead very quiet and subtle. it really makes it feel tense and scary in a way, not horror scary but just extremely suspenseful
the second is the camera work. too often in fight we have like a dozen cuts in less than 30 seconds most of which are extreme closeups to the point that you miss most of whats going on aside from a fist hitting someone in the face or whatever. instead with this we usually see all of if not the entire body of both knights so we see everything that is going on in the fight. it isnt disorienting and it feels like you're actually witnessing a brutal duel
Yeah the low hum really makes it tense and sinister. Nothing loud or over the top.
I hate camera cuts, if John Wick and this movie can make long take scenes the others dont have excuses.
I saw a video demonstrating different techniques used by armoured knights including hand to hand, half swording, parrying and eventually capturing or killing the overpowered opponent with a dagger. This is basically all that put into use. I also like that they were out of breath within a minute of fighting instead of other movie fights that go on for 20 minutes without any sign of fatigue.
Hal goes for his dagger at around 1:35 it looks like, but has to block his head from being caved in. You also hear something that sounds like, "No!" as if Hotspur saw the attempt.
The actor who plays Hotspur will also play a major role in House of the Dragon.
Aegon II to be specific. Great actor.
@@scorpioj3 Who's an absolute bastard. He nailed it though.
The actor playing hotspur will be playing Aegon Targaryen in the House of the Dragon show, so looking forward to that
What’s so great about this movie is how they portray knights as being basically teenagers born into warrior lifestyle. They were strong yes but they were still essentially boys, even if they were kings that commanded armies.
Perhaps the only realistic depiction of a medieval duel in a modern Hollywood film. Notice how the armour actually works. There was a reason people wore it.
Only who were able to buy a plate armor.
What the last duel, its ending fight is on the same level if not better.
@@andrewlechner6343 no
@@draco_1876 yes
@@pavan_kumar556 no
I like how they don't have magic swords that slice through armor and aren't doing backflips or anything weird.
I love that it showed how most fights usually end up in the ground in a matter of moments instead of having a long drawn out and unrealistic sword battle.
The scene was brilliantly done.shame this never happened the two never had a duel and the battle of shrewsbury was one of the biggest medieval battles ever to take place in Britain with many hundreds of casualties. Hotspur was killed at the battle and was divided into pieces and sent to different parts of England to show whzt happens if you dont behave.
Eventually he was brought back together and buried supposedly at york in secret.its a shame tthis battle was just ignored but maybe the budget wasn't enough.
And the battle of agincourt was again brilliantly filmed but again not accurate which is a bit bonkers because the actual battle was just as crazy.
You speak the Truth.
Yea and he Percy was much older than the future King Henry V, but people don't realize this movie is not based on history, it's based on Shakespeare's play. Shakespeare is the one who made them have a duel, and made them around the same age as well.
Who killed Hotspur? Wasn't he able to fight back?
@@lonewolfshay7712 No one really knows, some say it was some random fighter, other accounts attest to it being an arrow nailing him in the face when he raised his visor for a better view.
@@imotekh6110 Well, that sucks lol
the real fight between Henry and Percy happened in July 1403 in Shrewsbury, my hometown! quite a cool detail that they payed attention to the weather in this scene seeing as it happened in July, but the duel as it is portrayed here is entirely fictional. amazing scene though!
Is there like a marker in that place
@@noarvd8236 the whole area is called Battlefield. There’s a small museum and other stuff there.
Yea of course it's entirely fictional. It's based on Shakespeare's writings.
I watch this movie once a week. I love it. It definitely grew on me over time.
I have watched it again and again! What a story! And I love when he gets the backstabbers!
So aegon targaryen the 2nd fought with paul muadib atreides damn
It probably hurts to punch armor through armor, especially using your head. Can imagine getting dazed or disoriented quick
Same as the crew of a modern battle tank taking repeated hits from mortars or rockets that do not penetrate. The noise and concussion of the blasts can be disorienting enough if kept up as to disable the crew and force a retreat.
The goal is to hit the hard part of your head on the soft part of theirs for a headbutt. Strikes would most likely hurt your hand but the tradeoff is that it would cause more damage to the opponent's head.
they wore somthgin called a coif to lighten the damage to the head. without it, they'd get knocked out with a relatively low force. still probably hurt af
There are accounts of knights being killed by a heavy sword blow to the head, not because it actually penetrated, but because it dented their helmet so much it knocked them unconscious and fractured their skull.
The helmet has padding inside, it's not metal directly on your head, or directly on the chainmail.
I was really expecting him to shout *”DO YOU YIELD!!!”*
Why won’t Netflix make another medieval movie like this on this scale
It would do well
The Outlaw King was a good one too
@@bh7742that one was good too!
Please no they are historically inacurate
2:36 he trips his attacker with his right leg, there's no way that was accidental.
Most realistic fight I've ever seen in a movie.
Basically the only reliable way of killing another knight is to wrestle them and find an opening with a dagger.
Or use blunt weapons.
The sound design in this movie was next level, I love how much emphasis they put on the clanking and shifting of the heavy armour
Did anyone else just realize that at the start of the duel, he goes around so that the sun is in his opponents eyes instead of his???
I had forgotten how much of a badass Henry V was. Timothy portrays him as more of an assuming one, but still with great effect.
He was only like 14-15 when doing all of this so coming off as unassuming would probably be sort of accurate to the real deal from the perspective of a modern audience.
@@ColonelBragg I think 14 yrs back then doesn't equal 14 yrs now. Ppl could easily die in their 30s, so they didn't have time to remain kids up to their 30s as it happens now.
At. Age 15 Henry took a Longbow arrow to the face snapped it and kept fighting but in reality the majority of henry the 5th army was longbow men every able body male from 11 to 50 was giving a longbow at 11 at 9 they had to hold to nd to build up strength but every Sunday they training at the bits we still called them that in the British army, in reality the English were ruthless killers ,
Realistic however a sword is not designed to do damage against an armored opponent they probably would have used axes to be equal… maces if they were mad men.
A mace duel ngl i would likke to see that
They would start off with swords because swords were a "gentleman's weapon", and duelists above all had to show that they were noble gentlemen. However, many dueling sites had various other weapons available on the side, or held by the squires who accompanied the fighters. As the duel progressed, the fighters may lose or ditch their swords and then go pick up a spear or battle-axe and continue the fight.
Its hard for the sword to penetrate the armor but it can still work some blunt damage which is significant if you need to soften up your opponent.
A sword is a lot faster, more agile, durable, and being longer has a lot more leverage in the bind. A single handed mace or axe would be a very unusual weapon in a duel, and at a big disadvantage unless the one wielding it was particularly good with one.
There's a reason why all the dueling textbooks of the time assume either a longsword or a polearm.
@@Philweasel not to mention how you can hold the blade and attack with the handle and the guard
The poniard (dagger) used here may have had a serrated edge, but it was mostly used as a piercing weapon to get past armor. In this case, it found a way through the neck area and likely into the guy’s brain. Can you imagine having that pointy metal go under your chin, through your mouth and sinus and well into your brain cavity? Pain! 💀 You can actually hear it hit metal on his second (and last) push.
in that scene it wasnt a poniard though. 2:56 you can get a clear pause on the dagger after the stab.
Poniards are more metal "stakes" than anything. In that scene you can clearly see a simple dagger with a double-sided and rather thick blade.
@@DuwMinh gotcha! Thanks for the updated info 👍😀
If only Aegon had Blackfyre.
A very realistic take on a duel between two trained and competent fighters who happen to lack some experience due to their young age
Watched this movie, simply mesmerizing, could watch it again. Actors are spot on, every scene is carefully thought through. Lines are immaculate and simple, right selection of words, giving it a touch of yet more realism. Everything in this movie is perfectly done there's not ONE scene where i could spot an imperfection or something that could have been done better. Thimotées acting is the icing on the cake. To anyone who hasn't watched it yet I strongly recommend to do so and grab a lot of popcorn.
Awesome! And realistically depicted! For undoubtedly that's how most knight vs knight sword duels went down, with much grappling, wrestling, punching, choking, kneeing & stabbing to go along with the fearsome sword clanging. Great scene, & what a fantastic depiction!
The best scenes in movies are realistic ones. This is fantastic.
Paul Atreides kills Aegon II how fun!
The ending of this movie is one of the best things ive ever seen in cinema
I love how realistic the fall that led to the finishing blow was. It looks as if it was completely unintentional and he tripped over Henry's foot. Perfect representation of a fight, he was winning till he simply didn't.
It’s actually a really good fight depiction.
Rewatching this movie after Dune, makes me think Timothy might be the greatest duelist actor lol
Imo this movie was absolutely incredible. One of my favorite movies of recent years. I absolutely love it. Its so so underrated.
In most sword fights I never feel afraid for either guy. This one was scary though. I love that they both get tired fast and it quickly turns to wrestling. The clunky movements in the armor and the fact that you can't easily tell them apart all makes it feel so real.
Timothy weighs bout as much as the helmet alone. Seeing him in full armor is comedy gold😂
Full suit of medieval armor would have weighed about 50 lbs.
@@therelianceschool I'm using hyperbole to insult his thin frame. It's known colloquially as a "dis".
It's a thing people did online before the mass castrations and lobotomizations of the 2010s
@@Dontlicktheballoonshenry the fifth was very tall and skinny
@@Dontlicktheballoons People also used to actually be clever then. Unlike this piss poor comment which just sounds like an old man complaining in his recliner at the TV
Most men back then were thin, no steroids, hormones or huge steak dinners in the 15th century
When you're that encased in steel I think I'd rather be proficient at JiuJitsu than fencing...
That's because these two dinguses didn't think to bring a mace or a warhammer. William Marshall, the greatest tourney knight in the history of England, never used a sword. That right there should tell you something.
I don't know the characters. But the realism is so potent that i have felt more watching this than the whole Star Wars sequel trylogy
"come for me, big dog" beautiful taunt! :D
Aegon seems to have lost Sunfyre at some point
The King himself reminds me of the mountain biker Brandon Semenuk - lean, calm, cool, and surgically calculated.
Let's go Brandon
2:33 that dodge and parry scene was perfect
The first installment of the "Timothy Chalamet becomes a monarch by killing his cousin with a knife" cinematic universe.
KING AEGON NOOOOOO
Kind of makes you think the strat is to have the dagger at the ready the whole time and just try to find the right opening to get close.
It's to start out halfswording and go for a dagger as soon you're able if it goes to ground, both weapons get locked up/there's an inconclusive mutual grapple or you find yourself disarmed in rough order of preference
You're right that there's very little use swinging a sword at an armoured man, for the quickest and easiest win you would hope to win a bind at halfsword by working the point of your sword basically as you would a dagger into the visor, armpit, inside elbow etc and failing that strike with the pommel and/or go for a grapple to either disarm or throw your opponent. Combining armour and halfsword you have a strong advantage over a man just in armour with a dagger as you essential have a dagger of your own in your left hand, a hammer in your right and a defensive bar between. They would have started the fight like that instead of at the end as seen after retrieving their dropped swords here.
I think a less dramatic/more "realistic" version of the fight would have ended at the grapple following 1:11, King Henry comes under his sword for a nice arm wrap which likely would have lead to a disarm or throw and hotspurs counter grapple above his head isn't as strong, headbutts are a thing people try but they don't usually achieve anything and I would expect the guy with the better grip to tip the scales heavily in his favour.
Just personal experience in HEMA with some reenactment armoured fighting
The King is a really great movie. Timothy killed it in ever scene throughout this movie.
One very cleaver thing is how they get rid of their scabbards. Having that thing swinging around one's legs would get in the way in the best of times, let alone a death match.
Holy hell... does anybody else find this scene reminiscent of Saving Private Ryan, when Mellish comes to grips with a german S.S. soldier at Ramelle?
kind of different
most action movies have this type of scene
The small blade penetrates the armour
You think ? There is a gap below the helmet. smh
This movie was outstanding and I hope they make another
People often underestimate how AGILE you can move in full armor.
In most movies they are portrayed as lumbering slowpokes who move slowly and heavily, when in reality you can do pretty much any acrobatic moves you would do in your regular clothes.
Definitely one of the most realistic medieval duel in a movie. Nothing heroïc, it's a brutal and messy brawl.
I hope every director can learn from this scene.
Here from the video explaining how gruesome these duels were in reality,where dude gets his balls ripped off.
That twig actor is ridiculous! Looks like a complete joker in his armor and causes the outcome to appear entirely unbelievable.
Did I just see Aegon AND Tommen?!
Yes haha
Like the way Henry doesn’t seem like much compared to Percy until 0:42 with the sword, scabbard, twirl, visor move in one motion and you think ‘aha, this lad is no pushover...’
Something a like about this scene is the extras playing the soldiers in the back are not cheering and yelling but are instead just silent appear bored, like "Can these two nobles hurry up so I can go home to my wife and children."
Yes! I promise that armor is heavy and fucking hard to breathe in.
King Henry vs King Aegon Targaryen
Yeah dueling isn't valiant parrying of swords like in game of thrones it's a life or death fight that you do any and all things you can to survive including grappling, tripping, wresting and punching. Also trying to find the weakness in the armor where you can slip your blade in to deal a killing blow. Very fast-paced and tiring. I would put a wager that a good portion of men were killed in battle because they were so exhausted that they couldn't defend themselves. Love this movie
This is 100% the case. Ever play fight with someone? Its exhausting so you can imagine giving it your all in a life or death fight. You would be gased with in 2-3 minutes. Of course strength and skill are important but in the end it was who had the best endurance that would typically win a fight.
He won this fight by chance really, with the accidental foot trip allowing an opportunity to win.
One of the best movie scores I've ever heard.
Why is the little Dog barking? Where is the Big Dog?!?
This is incredibly realistic. 1:50, both knights on the ground exhausted literally holding each other for a few moments.
It's cool how they just ditch the swords and start fist fighting
Swords are useless when wearing so much armor.
Too big to be able to find a gap through the armor and they are not gonna slice plate mail open.
I do find it hilarious that most of the fighting we see Henry do in the movie is basically just rolling around in the mud punching
i understand netflix having their own movies to attract people but damn it's bittersweet for me who loves collecting dvds of historic movies and i'd love to have this one
60 seconds is a *long* time to fight in armor.
No
@@Ezio999Auditore Okay armchair warrior
@@MrJustonemorevoice it really isn't. A battle can go on for a few hours, although if you are wearing full plate you are most likely mounted, which makes it easier. But if your horse is killed, well, you gotta fight in that for quite a bit longer than 60 seconds
It's a long time to fight anyway lol, adrenaline dump is no joke, when I used to box I'd be absolutely fucked during the first round until I got a rest.
@@rentalsnake6542 Tell that to the internet tough guy up there who's claiming it was normal to fight continuously for hours.
This move was awesome!
I like how this scene captures the struggle of using a sword against steel body armour. A warhammer or a great axe could at least dent the armour, but it would be very difficult to cut and slash underneath chainmail.
King Aegon lmao