it is extremely important to establish the biological aspect because there are diseases that will affect differently based on the sex. If you fail to establish that, there is going to have a lot of problems in identifying diagnosis and initiating treatment. Even some patients i've met who are trans explicitly informed the doctors of their particulars because they themselves understand the ramification of not being clear or withholding any information. Aba did an amazing analogy and i applaud for his intention to make light of the situation. Great video keep up the good work.
If he doesn’t think unnatural advantages are unjust he shouldn’t be a socialist… what’s his problem with capitalism if he thinks unfair advantages are okay?
Because you're talking about competitive sport vs the ability to survive. That's not apples vs oranges. That's fucking fruits vs vegetables. C'mon man. Be smarter than this
@@Okieant it’s not that deep. It’s called a consist line of thought. Survival isn’t some absurdly difficult thing in America. You know being that less than 12% of ppl in this country at the poverty like and less than 1M people are homeless. We probably put less effort into survival than any species on this planet…
Nah Hassan is a cool dude man. Every Saturday he goes to a hospital near him and educates women about the pains of child birth while they are giving birth. So thoughtful!
Dude is a straight up weirdo. He's the dude in school that tries so hard to be cool to everyone but as soon as someone says something he doesn't like, he goes off the handle and exposes himself as a bully and a hypocrite.
^Prime example of people in his fan base and in his circle. Too much brain energy for them to have a solid and logical conversation. This world is a strange place.
I think Hasan is a pretty solid guy with pretty solid ideas, he has bad ideas and has a habit of being stubborn and close-minded. He does a lot of good though and advocates for many things I think a lot of people would agree with such as unionizing, american imperialism and many other things. He has bad takes like I said earlier, there are many times where i disagree with him same way there are many times I disagree with Aba and Preach. Maybe I'm being fooled but i see him as a pretty good guy.
@@mider-spanman5577 Don’t waste your time I genuinely was a fan, but after I got banned by his mods for saying “You can’t be serious” I realize how irrational and butthurt him and his army is. Logic isn’t a thing with his community sadly. They thrive off emotion instead of logic.
it's clipped out of context you would understand why he's mad and what the actual argument was about. He was being sarcastic because even if someone is Trans doesn't mean they can't have idiotic takes. it's a good roast against sjws actually. it's not about treating them or woman or men different if he thinks you are acting like a dumbass he will tell you he doesn't pander to Trans like you think he does
@@tony2pumps461 is the rant where he says that he hopes the trans persons life is as miserable forever as it is now, just because they questioned him and said he is the wrong person to advocate for them?
@@tony2pumps461 just the fact that he spends so much time spouting his nonsense but hates debates says alot. I'm sick of men like him wanting to seem woke and disregarding womens sporrts like that. there are womens and mens sports for a fucking reason but the SJW's just wanna ignore biology to mak a small sect of society feel better about themselves
@@tony2pumps461 I don’t think you saw the clip they’re referring to. The clip is literally Hasan screaming at a trans person who called him out for losing a debate on stream.
wait let me get this straight a trans person wanted to reach out to give him constructive criticism regarding what he said in a debate about trans people and instead of listening and being a humble he literally turns on the people he was trying to defend 🤣
Hahahahaha yup can you believe this dude has a following, i jus hope the majority of his followers come to their senses or jus realize tht he don't know shit bout wat he is talking about
@Music Channel, I Guess You are right, but you can still dissect a video, throw some answers and say a bunch of nothing not responding to anything, commenting only on statements and not arguments or not making yourself clear at all except to the people who watch you and already know how you think to the details.
@Music Channel, I Guess You sound like a fan. Could it be possible that they may just have a more unbiased opinion and more solid a logic counterargument than this Hasan fellow, who imperiously "transphobes" every unwanted opinion?
For me personally, a member of the trans community, I think it's entirely fair to have a civil conversation with my physician tomorrow about the concerns for my physical health as someone born a male. Honestly it would be weird to me if I walked into my doctors office tomorrow and they treated my health as if I have an entirely differing body than the one that I DO have.
No hate to Trump supporters but Trump did the same thing. Anyone that comes from money had it super easy when it comes to having a leg up in being succesful
TLDR: yup basically shits way easier lol My parents came to this country from Mexico over 20 years ago now, around 12 years ago my father opened up a business and I’ve been working there since I was 14,throughout the years I’ve went to other jobs, moved farther away but I eventually came back. I turn 22 later this week now. But In saying that having a family member/ steady source of income and learning the ins and outs of a business, man does it take the stress of living expenses off and in general make life a lot easier lol. Hoping and rooting for anyone who’s going through life alone and striving to make it better on their own, for themselves or future children or whatever the case
It's nice to hear this kind of thing being called out. Sometimes you see these brain dead arguments online and it's hard to have hope for humanity lol. It's like people get so devoted to whatever side they're on, they'll argue 2+2=5 because they can't stand to agree with what the other side is saying. It's very cult like.
I've only been exposed to Hasanabi in small doses and before he was controversial for anything I found him insufferable. He's a good example of attracting a young and gullible audience that will grow out of him.
This is pretty much my stance aswell, I only saw bits of him on H3 but after the last video they made on him, he really is the stereotypical lefty and fits well with how H3 is now.
I used to like him a couple years ago but after he betrayed his friends and debate dad destiny I started to notice the cracks in his facade. He really doesn't think through his positions I think he just attaches himself to whatever he thinks is good rather than thinking about what's true or politically effective. He used to call himself a dumb himbo and that is more true than I think even he knows.
He got into his feeling quick af. Like how you gon get mad at someone who's actually apart of that community for telling you you're weak? How the hell would he know more about trans people than an actual trans person?
@@AbysmalEnd it's the delivery that counts. After all, comedians don't say funny things; they say things funny. Which is apt as these two are comedians.
@@Okieant What "unnatural" advantages do people have that are on the same level as being a completely different sex, going through puberty as that sex and then transitioning?
I love how these trans activists think they represent trans people, but the moment some trans people voice their disagreement, they use the "They don't represent the trans community" line. As if the activists speak for the majority of trans people.
Reminds me of the many trans people who still suffer from depression after their transition and are filled with doubt, the second they voice their problems and worries they are labelled transphobes like ??? What are these activists smoking
I feel bad for the young people being mislead by his bs that are just trying to find a voice to represent their hardships. We all just want to be heard but this guy shouldn’t be at the forefront of anything he’s embarrassing.
I love how Hasan always says the sane, rational argument in the idiot voice, and then his criticism of them is what should be applied to him. Like give us a good argument how them having crazy physical advantages that come from being a part of the group that is literally excluded from women sports because those advantages are so drastic it makes it impossible to compete. There isn’t a single woman at the highest level that can compete with a single man in virtually any sport (I know a couple suggestions but focus on the vast majority) putting women up against men isn’t substantially different then 7 year olds trying to compete against high school kids as harsh as it sounds they both have a 0% chance of suceeding. I think a lot of people are so brain rotted by leftism they don’t realize just how physically dominant men are over women. I’m a big but not huge guy and with virtually no fighting experience and I could easily destroy 99% of women that lived. That’s just assuming 1% of them are high level trained fighters. That’s the only chance a fighter woman has over a man physically just thousands of hours more of time based skill
@@PG.R3V You sound exactly like what I would think someone that watches these RUclipsrs sound like, out of touch with reality. "90%" lmao What are you even talking about
I think the thing I hate most about hasan is that he literally has the easiest and most privileged life a person could have and yet he is the biggest whining child on the face of the earth
Exactly lmfao grew up rich got a job at his uncle's show as a host and then took that clout into a twitch streamer career where he sits in a chair and talks about how he's a socialist because it's the right thing to be while owning multi million dollar properties lol 🤣
Hassan was definitely one of those people who dropped the hard r N bomb way too often and comfortably before people started getting their careers ruined
To be honest, it's almost impossible to have discussion on any social issue because of people like him. he is really doing the exact same thing he is 'fighting' against.
Well that's why he's allowed to be mainstream. There are plenty of educated, independent minded left-wingers who make more sense than him, but they get censored and banned everywhere.
Well that's why he's allowed to be mainstream. There are plenty of educated, independent minded, sane left-wingers, but they get censored and banned everywhere. Not all left-wingers think biological males can be women. Not all lefties like the white male bashing that's everywhere. Not all lefties want unbridled immigration. I don't think multiculturalism works. But only certain people get a voice in mainstream media, on the left and the right. They try to put us in boxes and keep us divided.
Shaming isn't just a tactic for the "left leaning folks" though many on the right use it just as much & it's just as brain meltingly stupid when they do it. Just look at anytime a boomer goes on a rant about how games like GTA are turning kids into carrier criminals or the satanic evils of Pokemon. Or how women even being given the choice of abortion for ANY reason is akin to whores being allowed to murder babies.
Well yes, because conservatives are mindless animals that do not respond to logic or reason or empathy. Conservatism lends itself to narcissism and solipsism extremely well, to the point of being built on them. Shut the fuck up.
What happened? When I was growing up liberals were all about building everyone's self esteem and being anti-guilt. My guess is since religion is going away, a lot of people who would have been dogmatic, morally superior religious people in the past are on the secular left now.
I have never been disgusted by an online content creator before hearing about Hassan. Everything about him from his upbringing to narcissism is 100% ironically hypocritical. Im almost happy there’s videos like this that call him out because I always see clips of him getting passes.
Out of context clips? Lol aba is a highschool dropout who though it was a good idea to volunteer for the army. Thats stupider than anything hasan has every said
Hasanabi 101 as a former fan: 1. Never criticize Hasan directly and if you do preface with “sorry, not a troll” 2. Never expect consistency or nuance and if you do your a “debatebro” 3. Everyone who isn’t a 5 yr viewer or mod is a hate watcher/troll/clout chaser 4. If not for hasan someone “worse” would take his spot so we need to defend him at all costs 5. Socialism = Aesthetics over substance
At what point did you become a former fan? What did hasan do that changed your mind? Also when you were a fan what was the appeal of him? I'm really struggling to understand why anyone in any way towards the left could like his guy. I've tried talking to hasan fans. All they did was say I can't talk because I follow Adam something on RUclips who said something about nuclear bombs hasan thinks is stupid. They pretty much parotted the same sentence hasan said on stream. Genuinely interested. (are they very young? Like is hasan appealing the same way jake Paul is appealing?)
@@yautjacetanu No hassan isn't appealing in the same way, hassan gives off the illusion of being an intellectual/educated and a feeling of moral compass superiority if you listen to him. But heck if I know I never was a fan of Hassan, not even close.
@@potxtoe yeah that's why I'm interested and wanna know from fans. I can understand what you're saying as a possible reason to like hasan but you can get that from a lot of political streamers. Like you could say the same about the fans of destiny, vaush, maybe Lauren Southern, even aba and preach to some extent. None of the streamers are actually very clever when it comes to politics. Destiny has come the closest to real life politics but still very far compared to the thousands of people and academics who work in that world. I'm saying this as a destiny fan and someone who has academic friends, but it's a guilty pleasure to enjoy vaush and destiny so much because its pseudo intellectual and makes me feel morally superior. If I wanted to actually get into political takes I'd read more books. So that's why I wanna know from real fans. I've seen one answer on this thread and the personal literally said they were a fan because hasan was hot so they barely listened to what he had to say. So it seems like literally the appeal is the same as jake Paul. Its a bunch of teenagers waning to be hasan, wanting to be a millionaire having sex with prostitutes, driving fast cars and thats it.
@@yautjacetanu nice question,personally I’ve always wanted to be politically informed but never really tried until I found myself veering into toxic red pill shit when I was 18 and had a self reflection moment and looked online for any intro to leftist beliefs and happened to see hasan’s podcast with h3h3 and he aesthetically seemed to me as a intro to leftist beliefs and had hours of content so I quickly became a fan so I’d say this is his appeal and explains his growth but after doing more research of my own on leftist/socialist ideals to better understand the concepts hasan threw around constantly to explain his takes. After this process and watching other leftist speakers debate hasan on topics and hasan couldnt lecture like his stream is usually formatted and he failed anytime he had to veer from Noam Chomsky quotes or surface level concepts, anytime he had to debate an opposing speaker who forced him to explain his takes and actually engage he couldn’t which quickly turned me off to his content. Honestly I don’t think he is a political streamer because he never engages politically with anyone who opposes so his stream is just a lecture to young mostly “reformed” leftists who believe Hasans theory that he is a modern day Che Guevara and their part of a movement. That would explain why their so anti criticism of any kind towards hasan in the stream even to explain his own takes
Typical from a lot of folks these days. They argue against someone even though they admit they haven’t looked into them much. I have a hard time tolerating people who don’t even research or try to learn about what they are so against.
the guy lives in 2M houses, drives 100k cars and f_-ks pron stars then claim to be for the working class... hes so disconnected, he argues about useless topics and make a fool of himself
Uh i mean Marx… not every over enthusiastic high schooler is my kin… I can relate though… But i mean the intetion was decent, implementation is kinda a fail Which is kinda what 95% matters
The fact we’re even having these discussions shows how far we’ve fallen as a society. When your living so comfortably you just start looking for sh*t to complain about
okay yes, right, so basically from the beginning of time people have been peaceful, non-violence in their strongly differing convictions. NO. No, no you see this phenomena of people arguing over semantics of things just started with the development of modern society. Delusional AF.
in the uk police forces are told not only to immediately treat any officer who changes gender identity as their chosen gender immediately but they can also strip search suspects of their new chosen sex and if the person complains it is a hate incident and potentially a hate crime. this means a male officer can come to work, say he is trans and strip search female suspects and if they complain they could be charged with a hate crime
I dunno I think that means we've come so far as a society that we have to nit pick at things. It's like being a really good artist in art school and the prof has to look for the minor things to critique about.
Imagine having a trans wife, trans kids, and a trans am car, but because you don't wanna see them play in female sports. You're automatically a transphobe. Maybe being a transphobe is not that bad. They completely over used the word to where they made it a meaningless word.
From the deepest part of my Turkish heart, I thank you Aba & Preach for giving it to this dumpster fire of hypocrisy called Hasan"Abi" and I really recommend people not calling him Abi btw. Abi short for ağabey is an honorific in Turkish lang meaning Big bro. That dude is a whole clown show not deserving of that name.
Weight and height makes a big difference in sports, my daughter was so good at martial arts other competitors starting losing or gaining weight so they didnt have to compete against her. She agreed to go up a weight to fight people that were heavier and yes she did awesome but she said it was so physically harder to fight them all, they were stronger she said they hit like a truck its just the truth the power behind that extra weight is a massive difference.
As a trans-person in the community, I don't agree with trans-people being in the sports that they identify with. I believe the only way it will possibly wake these people up is if someone dies as a result.
The more I hear people try to force others into thier own opinionated categories. With this dictator level of confidence & lack of open minded possibility. The more I think they know Jack shit....Hassan is a great example of this.
@@handsofsteelsuperman2626 no, hasan is not satire. He actually believes hes always right, and hasnt ever considered an opinion outside of his own per-determined biases. You view him parasocially as "just another dude" when he is in fact another completely golden spoon fed rich-as-all-hell rhetoric spewing money making scheme. Thats right, HE is the money making scheme.
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Hasan is the only person in history who could ever make Sneako look mature, get absolutely embarrassed by TwoMad and further buried by Aba And Preach. kudos
@@Knives7777 yep he reacted to some of sneako’s videos and kept calling him an incel and kept dishing random insults at him over it, sneako reacted to him and completely made Hasan look like a goof, do you realise how childish and lame you have to be to make SNEAKO out of all people look like the bigger person? if i was hasan after that i wouldn’t even make videos anymore 💀
francis ngannou grew up in a sand mine, had no training nor acess to it, he was very disadvantaged many ways. so he should be allowed to fight a rich middleweight ;)
This has always been the fundamental issue with Hasan. He just doesn't care to actually provide arguments for anything. He just yells the same 2-5 talking points. The annoying part about this is for people like me who actually want to know if we're wrong. If we're wrong, give us reasons why. We are not married to the issue. But he just can't and never does. As you guys showed in the video, the second a trans viewer called him out on his last debate, he starts going at them super hard then claims to be against the negativity and toxicity. Hasan seems to think that, because he doesn't like debates, he can just suddenly become dogshit at presenting counter-arguments and positions. These are not the same. Like, if a mother fucker asks me "oh, you really like that TV show? What was good about it" I'm not gonna respond with "I DONT WANNA DEBATE" 😂
He doesn’t do debates anymore, it doesn’t matter if the person was right wing or left wing he’d always get destroyed. He stopped debating almost entirely after a few brutal debates with Destiny.
@@dumbidiot973 True. He tried that thing with Christian Walker recently and it didn’t go so well lmao. That’s what led to him being extremely toxic to that trans chatter.
Those slanderous words are the diminished weapons of a deteriorating mainstream media and 'woke' communities. Aba and Preach smoked him on this video, love your work boys!
These words have already completely lost meaning in many people's eyes, because they are used incorrectly more often than they are used correctly. For people to understand where words like "racist" and "homophobe" came from, they need to remember what real prejudice looked like, back when people refused to treat marginalised races as human beings, and when homosexuality was illegal. Not just screaming "racist" because someone worded a sentence poorly.
Preach got a point. The louder you yell, the more confident you seem, the more people will believe you. My Schizophrenic ex-roommate used to scream about gravity being fake and the only reason we didn't fly off the planet was because of magnetism and metal in our bodies. Not kidding when I tell you some people believed him...
@@khajiithadwares2263 Vaush came out of Destiny's community (recently got banned on twitch) and Destiny hates him like he hates Hasan. He's basically a debate bro. Useful at times, but most of the time an idiot
@@Kthatslife Vaush is another leftest who got clout by debating people. I personally find him more tolerable than Hassan because he can admit when he is wrong and will actually listen to the other side. Some people don't like him regardless because of his stances. Which as we know in this world today, if you don't agree with one stance a person has, you can not agree with any stance that person has.
Lol I welcome these roasts. Hasan is so insecure and insufferable. He HAS to constantly feel like he's the smartest person in the room, otherwise he has a meltdown
Insufferable is the exact word i’ve been using to describe this cretin and his bad takes. I have noticed lately any slight criticism of him just ends in him insulting them. Weird way to deal with valid criticism.
That dude is the opposite of insecure. He’s narcissistically obnoxious, thinking himself smarter and greater than the critic and therefore justifying his attacks. God complex.
@@happygrass5 I think it's related to his intellectual insecurity, look how he sperged out at that person who told him to stop debating topics he's not knowledgeable about... got instantly puffed up cuz he seemed to feel inferior and had to try and prove he wasnt
Holy shit, doesn’t it feel good to be an aba and preach fan sometimes. They’re like superheroes taking down these toxic perpetrators. Fresh and fit, derrick jackson, now hasan.
As someone who was a boxer, i purposefully trained against people in heavier weight class. I lost alot, but in my weight class I am am very capable thanks to jumping in the deep end with my training method. It is not safe, it is not for everyone.
either I'm completly brainwashed by these two guys, or everyone that picks an argument with them just gets shit on. How people can deny the most obvious things is beyond me
I don't know what you're really referring to but I watch Hasan's videos and these 2 guys are absolutely dog shit. It's really not cool or funny anymore that RUclipsr's do stuff like this. There needs to be accountability.
I’d say they do a good job dissecting arguments so you’re doing well with your research/entertainment value. I’m more right leaning than these gentlemen but that doesn’t deter from the fact that they have a nuanced take on this. I’m sure as I research them more I’ll find disagreements we have BUT they seem cool enough to have a cohesive conversation with about it and they could learn/teach with their point of view.
The "You're a bigot!" "You're a transphobe!" argument is literally the same thing that one kid on the playground always did when you hit him with the finger lazer beam hologram glock. You'd hit him with the "PEWSH PEWSH!" & he would just yell "Aha! I think not! Forcefield!" & take no accountability for his bs. I hated playing with that kid.
Or the kid that you play in rock paper scissors and he throw 👈 "GUN" or 🙏 "GOD". OR "Any mini my ne mo" turn into "my momma told me to pick this one right over here but i want to pick this one right over here in the year 1998 because last year was 1997 and i was 7 years old born on April 31st" lmao
At this point, I think he knows you guys are right, I think he just has too much pride and too much to lose in admitting it because his entire throne will crumble if he does. He's just reaching out for anything to grab on to to maintain his credibility and following.
From what I have seen, and I will admit it is not much (thankfully). Even the people he claims stand for, don't give him much credit. We should get him in a room with Ethan Klein and have them compete for the most stupid non argument, and the most cringeworthy assertion.
HasanAbi is the living breathing personification of the meme "yes im vegan, yes i eat meat, we exist". saying two contradictory things in the same breath without blinking an eye. its hard to take someone like him seriously.
In regards to Aba and Preach saying Hasan can’t be a socialist being a millionaire, that’s like saying you can’t be non-racist while being white. Believing and preaching daily that there should be more socialist policies adopted within the government doesn’t mean that you yourself can’t make money. The whole idea of socialism if letting the government take care of the redistribution of wealth through social programs. If their argument is that since Hasan’s a socialist he should have given away his money away, that’s actually counterintuitive because donating money to charity (usually for tax breaks) and not trusting the government with one’s money is often a conservative ideology. Just to be clear, I don’t think Hasan is right about them being transphobic, and I’m not saying that socialism is what’s best for this country. Just trying to point out the flawed logic they and many others in the comments are using. You could say the same thing about Bernie being a millionaire- the argument is pointless.
You have to give him credit, he's made millions of dollars by making stupid arguments. Most people literally only know who he is because of videos like this mocking his stupidity.
Let's not forget that he can literally steal content and he retains his entire viewer base when he leaves his chair for 20 minutes while a 20 minute video plays. His chair is empty and everything.
Bro you should see the amount of people in his comment sections sections vids that absolutely and vehemently believe A&P are transphobic based solely on Hasan calling them that. You have to keep in mind he never even watched the video and they all like, hot damn he's on to something.
Famous uncle. Internship that gave him a starting audience. Pretty face (subjective) Saying what people want to hear. 95% things going for him from the onset. 5% actual work.
I don't always agree with Aba but i will say one thing. When Aba is dedicated to a grilling/roast or exposing of someone there's nobody better. The edit is unreal, he just goes to a really different place and i love it to bits. He's amazing.
What you said about people living on Twitter is so true. Once you step out in to the real world you find that people are fairly reasonable whether they’re left or right leaning
Don't argue with an idiot. He'll only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. There's no version of it where they admit they're wrong or give up lol.
Ammo. My insurance against idiocracy, a whole civilization of morons that may one day turn on me and try to put me in a death camp... Is ammo. Lots and lots of ammo.
People who portray themselves as moralistic voices of reason are often the same who share a distinct hatred for the underprivileged. Hasan is a classic example of that. He can make mistakes and learn from them and change... But I highly doubt it.
He would need to have humility in order to do that i.e. "I was wrong about XYZ" or "I admit that I had no idea what I was talking about", but most people who have a "morally surperior" air about them will not do that because being morally superior is part of their identity. I don't see him changing but I hope that I will be proven wrong. Edit: a word
@@joseureste8257 totally shocking. Spoiled rich brats who never hear no, tend to be narcissistic assholes who are experts at playing the victim and getting what they want. It's all in their environment, growing up.
Wait you just argued that this MF hates who he advocates for and then say he can "learn" from them and change. THE MF MUST BE DOING IT ON PURPOSE KNOWINGLY WTF DO YOU MEAN?
After he said that America deserved 9/11, I lost all respect I have for him and also unfollowed right there and then. I am not from USA but the guy doesn't even think how the people who lost their love ones because of that event feel.
I played varsity soccer throughout high school, and I could keep up decently with guys in pickup games. When my varsity team was told we were schedule to play a club team of 13-14 year old boys we laughed, until we got THRASHED 9-2. I really appreciate you talking about this issue, because it’s demoralizing as a woman to hear guys like Hasan talk about removing spaces for women.
I hear you. I can’t stand people like Hasan and their lack of basic common sense. It’s frustrating and disgusting. No physical sport is perfectly fair, but we still have to try the best we can to make it an even playing field for everyone, especially when it comes to competition where it can make or break you as an athlete. It’s just mind boggling to me how people like him justify this nonsense with no regard for others, meanwhile they shout at the top of their lungs about how everyone else is hatefully oppressing such and such group. Absolutely baffling.
"Why are those unnatural advantages unfair?" What?!? If you couldn't take him serious before, this is where the buck stops. He's the type of person to say something isn't true just because he doesn't want to believe it and doesn't like it. But why is he so hard on trans women though??
Why are those unnatural advantages unfair? same fucking reason we don't use riods in sports, the same reason we hate hackers in video games. It fucking ruins the experience for everyone else who are genuinely competing. I don't know about u but I would rather lose to someone because they are much more skilled than me, than because they have some unfair advantage.
@@claude3879 trust me I get what you mean, I'm not on either side, I'm not well informed enough. But why isn't that the same energy for somebody like Kevin Durant on Somebody like Robert Covington. Durant is taller, he has a larger wingspan, he's faster, why is that not the same. Again, not trying to attack you, just genuinely asking a question.
The lost generation , we are becoming more confused as years passed by. That's why mental health issues arises not because we roast and defend ourselves but our brain has been just confused. It's becoming clearer and clearer to me the gap between the disconnection on today's Social Constructs and the fundamentals of biology. That's the very foundation of today's progressive vs Conservative political movements. It's clear that we are progressing blindly by removing our biological imperatives and we tend to follow this subjective idealism rather than taking and accepting the objective facts that is constant (like biological matters) I don't know where this safe and convenient life leading us to nowhere.
In combat sports, weight is the best proxy we have for “size” while gender is a proxy for “natural athletic ability”. The standards obviously are proxies and are not dispositive but theyre the best we got. People train AROUND these proxies so to change them indiscriminately is dangerous and against the fundamentals of sports.
I did wrestling in high school, one day I was up against a guy on our team that was close to 300 I was only 180. I was strong and in shape but at that size difference there's no point.
The funniest thing in all this is that I'm sitting here, watching 2 grown men state empirical, historical, scientific fact and somehow it is controversial and actually needs to be reiterated.
The problem with twitch streamers is that their chat makes them feel like they know what they’re talking about. The Biggest streamers mostly act like know it alls and are rarely humble. He’s just living proof that people will passionately talk about shit they know nothing about. Don’t even bother to research. They think they are right by social media ratios
they literally have an automatic echo chamber no matter what they talk about, ironically i think the communities around say asmongold and xqc despite on the surface being more toxic are actually better due to the fact they tell their streamer if they are a dumbass and clown on them all the time
I love how he has to look away from the camera because of the shame he can't help but feel for saying stuff even he doesn't believe. It's a very well paying job. That is the only reason he does it.
I love yall man. Yall stay preaching, keep yo foot on they necks lol. I've always supported Trans people and women's right...in the last 4 years I've been called transphobe and that I hate women too many times to count...cuz I don't agree with one thing. For instance , I was in a group of single parents (90% women) and the topic about child custody came up....and I was talked about like a dog cuz I don't believe women should automatically get custody, it should be 50/50 until established in court. I ended up being kicked out cuz I finally called someone out they name after getting tagged and dragged for hrs. This world is crazy,
why you you would ever think a mans opinion is valid in leftists spaces is beyond me. If you dont share their opinion, you are out of the team. This is what ideologies are, their opiniins and "lived experiences" will always be more valid than yours. its called "intersectional" feminism or somethibg like that.
@@NoName12344o right that shit is dumb it gets on my nerves when I hear stories about a mother obviously harming her kids in some way but the system still let's her have them 🙄
This guy Hassan is just lazy at counter argument formulation. He's so used to his own echo chamber that he hasn't developed the skills at properly debating opposing views. Great content gents 🙌🏾
It's amazing how someone can become rich by pretending to care about the poor while never actually doing anything to help the poor. I don't think he shouldn't be allowed to have a nice house, I just don't understand why he's done nothing to help people who literally aren't allowed to have houses. It's one thing to live in a very nice house in the midst of a massive homeless population, it's another thing entirely if the main reason you're able to afford that house is because you're constantly talking about the plight of that same homeless population. People are giving him money to pretend to care about the poor instead of just giving their money to the poor, and that says a lot about how far gone the human race is, I think.
@@siddharthakvr5154 and he admits to it, too. it's his twitter banner if I'm not mistaken. i hate to use the term grifter as people like him have worn it out, but i think it applies here somewhat.
to be fair I have watched his twitch and he never pressures his fans to donate he just says hey if you're enjoying the show you can subscribe for free with an Amazon prime subscription (which gives him I think $5 a month) and he is very transparent about how much he earns so it's not like hes pretending he's not a multimillionaire. He can't solve homelessness anyway the only way you can do that is through government policies the same way some European countries like Finland has and if he uses his large platform to help promote policies that will help peoples lives I think his impact on the world is a net positive I'm not defending his other points I acknowledge his Ukraine takes are garbage, his dating advice is garbage, his stance on trans sports is horrible and he's lacking in self awareness. and I think most of his success comes down to favourable relationships with destiny and TYT in the past as well as just following what Bernie Sanders (someone who actually has a good understanding of politics) attaching himself and becoming associated with him and his policies but I don't believe that their is anything wrong with being a socialist and also having money
This is what people without an argument do yell...my dad always says "a person that yells and swears a lot is just a feeble brain trying to express itself"...dude is a perfect example
It's not so black and white. Yelling does not mean you are stupid, it means you are angry. Now, yes sometimes yelling is a tactics of someone with no arguments/is stupid, BUT, invalidating someones point "because they are screaming" is oversimplifying things. THat being said, yeah Hasan has no real arguments...
His argument is what we understand, on the Left, as a classic example of "imagined hypocrisy". Typically we'd see conservatives doing it, but in this case, Hasan is the one doing it (quite ironic). Hasan is imagining his opponents to be engaging in hypocrisy. That the only reason why they're okay with some advantages, but not other types of advantages (related to transness), is that they must be transphobic. Simple explanation, right? Except Hasan is wrong. There is no hypocrisy. It's a perfectly consistent - albeit imperfect - position. We already have categorization of sports, this is nothing new. Is that categorization perfect? No. But adding trans-women to women's sports goes well beyond a threshold of what we'd consider "reasonable", and people understand that. Hasan has to accept that people can be against this specific type of advantage, while not being transphobic. It doesn't necessarily mean they're being hypocritical, and thus, it doesn't inform us on how transphobic they are. No doubt some of the people doing this critique ARE transphobes... but you can't wholesale categorize everyone as a transphobe based off this position. It's utterly ridiculous.
All you have to do to win a debate with the "trans women are real women" nut jobs is to ask them how they define "woman". You will get varied answers, and not a single one of them will make sense. You know they're full of it when none of them can even agree on one definition of woman. They can't describe what a woman is, yet they have no problem verbally abusing anyone who says certain people aren't women.
to be fair, I only discovered you guys after the Hasan drama. Without putting my own opinion in, this is articulated very well. Def got a subscribe from me, I enjoy your talks and honesty mixed with comic relief.
Honest question, what about his streams or his personality made you watch his content? He seems extremely unlikable by the way he carries himself through arguments/debates.
@@GasEnjoyer I would say it's because he at least kind of sticks to what he truly believes whether I agree or not I feel that's admirable at the least
I played girls’ tennis in high school. If a biological male joined the team and I was forced to play with/against them, I would have quit instantly. It’s not even close how much physically stronger and faster men are capable of being than women. Serena Williams was asked if she would play the best male tennis players, and she said she never would because it would just be humiliating for her. She recognizes the difference.
@@ejay_uk if you went through puberty as a male, you have physiological advantages over women. testosterone replacement does not magically remove the advantages gained.
One thing you guys have to remember is that he doesn’t care He doesn’t care about the trans people, the sport, the women, and the truth or even finding it He lives in his bubble behind his computer like a teenager He’s not listening He’s reacting
Don't go off of what you see in React videos. Watch the streams. He streams 8-10 hours everyday. Think about that. 8-10 hours. And there's so little bad shit in comparison to the good he does. Seriously. Imagine 8-10 hours a day. 7 days a week. Talking to the toxic internet. Only really having a few controversies. Pretty impressive he's not been cancelled yet if you ask me.
@@WTWAK That excuse doesn't work. Hasan doesn't just say dumb stuff in the heat of the moment and regrets it afterwards, he regularly puts out mind bogglingly stupid takes and goes on to defend those takes for weeks afterwards.
@@WTWAK bro stop sucking off his meat. I watch couple of his streams before and the guy is a idiot and never knows what he is talking. And you acting streaming 8 hours a day is so hard yet every time he watches a video he gone for most it or just eating food or saids something dumb as hell. And on top of that he is a socialist. So he can go kick rocks for all I care🤡. Also this is the same guy who lost a Twitter debate to twomad and when said he wanted to debate him on his stream and twomad accept it he started making a bunch of excuses. You know stupid have to be to lose to twomad of all people😂😂
23:34 Late to comment but they don’t do anything with the prostate during gender confirmation surgery because of the possible damage to nerves and urinary infections, so someone after the surgery those people can still get prostate cancer. All it took was a simple search to find that out too.
This. I don't think it's necessarily people's fault that they follow him. I think that schools should focus more on questioning theories/stances and encourage people to do their own research.
Even not knowing much when it comes to most political subjects this idiot has some of the most bad takes ever. But it will easily hook dumb middle and high schoolers who think their life is so hard and that this guy is on their side. I'm so happy that even to this day I never really used social media. I only got into this part of RUclips by the time I dropped out of college and have been in the work force for 3 years.
@@Magicalnora I went to an average public school district in the suburbs in the 80s and 90s. Critical Thinking was drilled into us quite often. Did schools just stop after 9/11? Cause it seems like that's Gen Z's biggest problem. Their hearts may be in the right place, it's nice to see that bullying is way less than it was when I was a kid for example, but they often fall deep into young know-it-all territory and have no problem bullying people for pointing out that.
I appreciate Aba admitting that the tactics of leftists boil down to shaming people without making any effort to prove beyond doubt the factual nature of some of the beliefs. That is really beginning to prove counter productive in the various debates around culture wars. This guy calling trans people transphobic just sums it all up.
@@moisesmarquez7564 These comparisons ain't the same, yes minorities can racist, but a trans person being a transphobe is like a man being a misandrist. The person wouldn't transition in the first place.
At first it wasn't that way but now they are just like do this because we say so and if you don't we'll try to cancel you and talk about the bad things that you have in your life LOL I'm not voting Republican and at this point I'm probably not voting Democrat either. I declare My independence from both of those plantations
@@Wilmorgrandexter wouldn’t that be more related to self hate? Like a white person hating white people. That ish happens. I don’t disagree with your initial statements at all, but the reply has me a bit confused ^ ^
We have to understand why people like these things so we can know whenever we're becoming more like "Hassans" and etc. It's all part of human nature so it has to do with something we all share
For the first time ever, I have to disagree with your take. Hasan is a hero. He goes to cancer wards to educate patients on the pain cancer causes and if they don't agree, they are cancer-phobes.
You could literally put a sticker on a porta-potty that says "hasan is dumb" and he'd go on a 40 min twitch rant about it. Appreciate yall for always telling it like it is
You are as reductionist as your thinking, honestly ! Lamest , laziest remark ever !His global fandom is varied , he has a 93 yr old on there . Black and white much?
it is extremely important to establish the biological aspect because there are diseases that will affect differently based on the sex. If you fail to establish that, there is going to have a lot of problems in identifying diagnosis and initiating treatment. Even some patients i've met who are trans explicitly informed the doctors of their particulars because they themselves understand the ramification of not being clear or withholding any information. Aba did an amazing analogy and i applaud for his intention to make light of the situation. Great video keep up the good work.
Nah.... Youre Transphobic Doc.
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@@topheeba Ben non
@@AbaNPreach Don't call him Hasan his name is "cenks nephew"
Preach king. So tired of all this shit.
If he doesn’t think unnatural advantages are unjust he shouldn’t be a socialist… what’s his problem with capitalism if he thinks unfair advantages are okay?
Holy shit. This point needs to be seen. Aba needs to see this comment. This right here ALONE crushes the point.
Because you're talking about competitive sport vs the ability to survive. That's not apples vs oranges. That's fucking fruits vs vegetables. C'mon man. Be smarter than this
@@Okieant it’s not that deep. It’s called a consist line of thought.
Survival isn’t some absurdly difficult thing in America. You know being that less than 12% of ppl in this country at the poverty like and less than 1M people are homeless.
We probably put less effort into survival than any species on this planet…
@@Okieant I guarantee you can't, without looking it up tell me the difference between fruits and vegetables.
@@truthbetold1855 facts 😂😂
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
Wow thats deep and True you nailed it
This actually aids Preach's point. Damn
Touche 👏
@@ndzaba I was gonna say the same thing, nailed it.
It’s a jungle out there
I just find it funny that people call Hasan an actual source to get breaking news
I love your videos leon!!!
Hasan is just entertaining tbh if you want to hear actual good takes watch destiny
Wassup Leon!
I find it funny that peoples call hasan a socialist
@@Numb_ fr numb, but hasan kinda getting annoying by each day
Nah Hassan is a cool dude man. Every Saturday he goes to a hospital near him and educates women about the pains of child birth while they are giving birth. So thoughtful!
Exactly. His lecture at the Frogballs Tennessee Best Western on how Black people should feel about societal issues in America was pure poetry.
@@williammccullough2466 so heroic
Hahaha 😂😂
Not all heroes wear capes!
XD
Dude is a straight up weirdo. He's the dude in school that tries so hard to be cool to everyone but as soon as someone says something he doesn't like, he goes off the handle and exposes himself as a bully and a hypocrite.
^Prime example of people in his fan base and in his circle. Too much brain energy for them to have a solid and logical conversation. This world is a strange place.
I think Hasan is a pretty solid guy with pretty solid ideas, he has bad ideas and has a habit of being stubborn and close-minded. He does a lot of good though and advocates for many things I think a lot of people would agree with such as unionizing, american imperialism and many other things. He has bad takes like I said earlier, there are many times where i disagree with him same way there are many times I disagree with Aba and Preach. Maybe I'm being fooled but i see him as a pretty good guy.
Like a psychopath
@@mider-spanman5577 Don’t waste your time I genuinely was a fan, but after I got banned by his mods for saying “You can’t be serious” I realize how irrational and butthurt him and his army is. Logic isn’t a thing with his community sadly. They thrive off emotion instead of logic.
@Russian Waifu hasan is a transphobic bourgeois Socialist
"I don't know anything about these guys."
>calls them transphobic over a dozen times.
GG
Didn't they do the same thing?
@@youngwun446 did you even watch the video? Fuck off troll.
@@youngwun446 Elaborate, please.
@@youngwun446 Doesn't matter what they do. It's not a good strategy to stoop to that level since noone can take someone like that seriously.
because they are, like he said, everyone is! i am, you are, he is, everyone is... so transphobic is like... regular people? i dont get it... lol
Hasan stays ducking Sam Hyde for fear of dying in one punch, while saying women should fight men cause "advantages make sports awesome".
OH SNAP IT'S ELI
"advantages make sports awesome"
the last thing i want to see is a team get steamrolled by another.
I always liked you. 👍
He Is slowly pushing him in a self defence situation
@manny Twomad look like he's pumping up these days. Keep an eye out, cause if you start sleeping you'll wake up to a unit.
hasan is probably the most insufferable person ive ever seen. says a lot about his viewers too…
Literally
His viewers may not even exist.
my sister watches hasan so ur right
@@armeniansmurf Poor thing. Hope she gets through this uninformed phase soon.
Tbf depending on what he is speaking on he can either make very good or very shitty points.
Claims to be pro-trans, but explodes on an actual trans person, saying "You are just a trans-person." Makes sense.
it's clipped out of context you would understand why he's mad and what the actual argument was about. He was being sarcastic because even if someone is Trans doesn't mean they can't have idiotic takes. it's a good roast against sjws actually. it's not about treating them or woman or men different if he thinks you are acting like a dumbass he will tell you he doesn't pander to Trans like you think he does
@@tony2pumps461 is the rant where he says that he hopes the trans persons life is as miserable forever as it is now, just because they questioned him and said he is the wrong person to advocate for them?
@@tony2pumps461 just the fact that he spends so much time spouting his nonsense but hates debates says alot. I'm sick of men like him wanting to seem woke and disregarding womens sporrts like that. there are womens and mens sports for a fucking reason but the SJW's just wanna ignore biology to mak a small sect of society feel better about themselves
@@tony2pumps461 "i was merely pretending to be retarded"
@@tony2pumps461 I don’t think you saw the clip they’re referring to. The clip is literally Hasan screaming at a trans person who called him out for losing a debate on stream.
wait let me get this straight a trans person wanted to reach out to give him constructive criticism regarding what he said in a debate about trans people and instead of listening and being a humble he literally turns on the people he was trying to defend 🤣
He's a silly goose
Hahahahaha yup can you believe this dude has a following, i jus hope the majority of his followers come to their senses or jus realize tht he don't know shit bout wat he is talking about
a head scratcher for sure 😂😂
How was that a debate?
Shows how much he cares right 😂😂
"they are transphobic because they are transphobic"...solid proof...he's got me convinced
@Music Channel, I Guess 😂
@Music Channel, I Guess nice bait
@Music Channel, I Guess You are right, but you can still dissect a video, throw some answers and say a bunch of nothing not responding to anything, commenting only on statements and not arguments or not making yourself clear at all except to the people who watch you and already know how you think to the details.
@Music Channel, I Guess You sound like a fan. Could it be possible that they may just have a more unbiased opinion and more solid a logic counterargument than this Hasan fellow, who imperiously "transphobes" every unwanted opinion?
@Music Channel, I Guess yeah. You definitely a fan 😁😆👌🏾👍🏾
For me personally, a member of the trans community, I think it's entirely fair to have a civil conversation with my physician tomorrow about the concerns for my physical health as someone born a male. Honestly it would be weird to me if I walked into my doctors office tomorrow and they treated my health as if I have an entirely differing body than the one that I DO have.
I immediately respect you more than people who make being trans their whole personality
Hasan Abi: "I never want to be the smartest person in the room."
Aba: Don't worry, that room doesn't exist. 😂😂😂
I live for Petty Aba!
that was pretty gooood..😂
Bars!
Hasan could be alone and still not be the smartest person in the room.
Fatality. Flawless victory.
Hasan is proof that anyone with well positioned and wealthy family member can make it on their own.
No hate to Trump supporters but Trump did the same thing. Anyone that comes from money had it super easy when it comes to having a leg up in being succesful
@@capo4ever334 Both Hasan fans and Trump worshipers are losers.
TLDR: yup basically shits way easier lol
My parents came to this country from Mexico over 20 years ago now, around 12 years ago my father opened up a business and I’ve been working there since I was 14,throughout the years I’ve went to other jobs, moved farther away but I eventually came back. I turn 22 later this week now. But In saying that having a family member/ steady source of income and learning the ins and outs of a business, man does it take the stress of living expenses off and in general make life a lot easier lol. Hoping and rooting for anyone who’s going through life alone and striving to make it better on their own, for themselves or future children or whatever the case
Well that doesn’t mean on their own then lol
@@capo4ever334 so did obama
Hearing Aba roast the hell out of Hasan for almost a minute straight really brought my day from a 3 to a 9, thanks for the laugh guys!
It made my day too, this is gold 😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Bruh he roasted Cenk's nephew good😂
Lol.
Cenks nephew is the worst to be fair
It's nice to hear this kind of thing being called out. Sometimes you see these brain dead arguments online and it's hard to have hope for humanity lol. It's like people get so devoted to whatever side they're on, they'll argue 2+2=5 because they can't stand to agree with what the other side is saying. It's very cult like.
The fact that he has a fan base and subscribers blows my mind. It really shows the declination of our society.
dont worry too much, they are 14 year olds and will grow up one day
I really don't get how people listen to him and people like destiny, baffles me
@@kongvinter33 says you 12 year old
@@darkspy1277 because alt-right kanye fans like you are disappointments
@@moderndespair9922 brilliant argument. so I guess you are that 14 year old fan base. point proven, grow up.
I've only been exposed to Hasanabi in small doses and before he was controversial for anything I found him insufferable. He's a good example of attracting a young and gullible audience that will grow out of him.
Dont get how anyone can watch him more then 5 minutes.
Absolutley brain dead ”smart guy”
This is pretty much my stance aswell, I only saw bits of him on H3 but after the last video they made on him, he really is the stereotypical lefty and fits well with how H3 is now.
I used to like him a couple years ago but after he betrayed his friends and debate dad destiny I started to notice the cracks in his facade. He really doesn't think through his positions I think he just attaches himself to whatever he thinks is good rather than thinking about what's true or politically effective. He used to call himself a dumb himbo and that is more true than I think even he knows.
I don't know about growing out of it because he's slowly molding his audience into little brainlets like himself
It’s the bulge showing pics and woke captions for me. Save the whales
…. and dischlong ayee.
I like how Hasan glosses over the fact that testosterone is illegal in sports. This guy is hillarious.
“testosterone is illegal in sports”? So men’s sports just don’t exist I guess.
Food thing mtf athletes are on estrogen
@@metadreamland After their bodies have been naturally producing testosterone for years?
@@brittoncain5090 doesn’t matter, that’s not how testosterone works
You should probably watch him more then what they post
Hasan Abi: "I never want to be the smartest person in the room."
He could be alone in a room and still not be the smartest person in that room.
The stagnant air can hold a more intelligent convo.
Well gotdamn, you didn't have to do man's like that lmao
The bacteria in his colon have a higher IQ than this man.
I was about to say the fly buzzing around is probably smarter than him.
It does depend on the furniture 🤣
He got into his feeling quick af. Like how you gon get mad at someone who's actually apart of that community for telling you you're weak? How the hell would he know more about trans people than an actual trans person?
_"A liberal: someone who thinks he knows more about your experience than you do.”_ - *James Baldwin*
@@StoicBehavioR see also: hairy white chicks...lol
"He puts the moron in oxymoron"
"He puts chlamydia in women"
These guys won't make heaven 😂😂😂😂
And I’m here for it 😂
To be fair. That is highschool freshman humor.
@@AbysmalEnd it's the delivery that counts. After all, comedians don't say funny things; they say things funny. Which is apt as these two are comedians.
Good thing heaven isn't real then, phew
@@grabka1984 ok
"There's a lot of people that have unnatural advantages"
Yes, and that's why we seperate it between weightclass and between genders.
Those are natural advantages. I think you missed the argument
Yes, unnatural advantages like a biological male pretending to be female so they can win competitions they shouldn't be allowed in.
@@Okieant What "unnatural" advantages do people have that are on the same level as being a completely different sex, going through puberty as that sex and then transitioning?
@@Okieant you had it and lost it
@@Okieant please tell me you’re being sarcastic.
I love how these trans activists think they represent trans people, but the moment some trans people voice their disagreement, they use the "They don't represent the trans community" line. As if the activists speak for the majority of trans people.
Divide to conquer. Nothing new
The community be killing flame Monroe. She holds her own though
Reminds me of the many trans people who still suffer from depression after their transition and are filled with doubt, the second they voice their problems and worries they are labelled transphobes like ??? What are these activists smoking
Reminds me of the black community(black btw)
Exactly same with the LGBTQ community, u have allies talk as if they are supporting when they dont understand us at all, and people repeat bullshit 😒😒
I feel bad for the young people being mislead by his bs that are just trying to find a voice to represent their hardships. We all just want to be heard but this guy shouldn’t be at the forefront of anything he’s embarrassing.
Yea I feel bad there’s millions of parents who don’t realize their kid is upstairs being brainwashed in hasan’s chat every day on twitch
I love how Hasan always says the sane, rational argument in the idiot voice, and then his criticism of them is what should be applied to him. Like give us a good argument how them having crazy physical advantages that come from being a part of the group that is literally excluded from women sports because those advantages are so drastic it makes it impossible to compete. There isn’t a single woman at the highest level that can compete with a single man in virtually any sport (I know a couple suggestions but focus on the vast majority) putting women up against men isn’t substantially different then 7 year olds trying to compete against high school kids as harsh as it sounds they both have a 0% chance of suceeding. I think a lot of people are so brain rotted by leftism they don’t realize just how physically dominant men are over women. I’m a big but not huge guy and with virtually no fighting experience and I could easily destroy 99% of women that lived. That’s just assuming 1% of them are high level trained fighters. That’s the only chance a fighter woman has over a man physically just thousands of hours more of time based skill
"Hassan is the type of lefty to get depressed because his 🐓 leans to the right" damn man, yall didn't have to kill him like that lol
That one joke outdid Hasan’s 10 hour stream lmao
Pretty weird comment to make
@@cram2979 lmao not really, 90% found it funny because it was. Youre the type of person to get smacked with humor and die your hair blue
@@PG.R3V You sound exactly like what I would think someone that watches these RUclipsrs sound like, out of touch with reality. "90%" lmao What are you even talking about
@@cram2979 you can't be that stupid, but then again I'm definitely not surprised
I think the thing I hate most about hasan is that he literally has the easiest and most privileged life a person could have and yet he is the biggest whining child on the face of the earth
Exactly lmfao grew up rich got a job at his uncle's show as a host and then took that clout into a twitch streamer career where he sits in a chair and talks about how he's a socialist because it's the right thing to be while owning multi million dollar properties lol 🤣
It's always the most privileged people who act like this.
Most privileged people act like that because they haven’t been humbled yet by bad experiences in life cause their life is so easy.
@@Davidsweirdness nah dude you dont know the struggle imagine only making millions for eating food, watching videos, and browsing twitter on stream
Say it louder!
Scary thing is people take this guy seriously. Sometimes i question if we should have the internet at all.
The guy has some of worst takes ever
We shouldn't have leisure access to the internet. No social medias. No user video hosting websites.
@@dmvbawse4265
That and bausc.... vash.... Vaush?
@@Menaceblue3 Irishladie lol never forget the original sex pest name. He changed his name to Vaush after getting exposed to distance himself.
@@dmvbawse4265 his takes aren't only shit but they radicalize the people that watch them. Dude eminates dangerous levels of stupidity to the masses
Hassan was definitely one of those people who dropped the hard r N bomb way too often and comfortably before people started getting their careers ruined
To be honest, it's almost impossible to have discussion on any social issue because of people like him. he is really doing the exact same thing he is 'fighting' against.
totally agree!!
Well that's why he's allowed to be mainstream. There are plenty of educated, independent minded left-wingers who make more sense than him, but they get censored and banned everywhere.
Well that's why he's allowed to be mainstream. There are plenty of educated, independent minded, sane left-wingers, but they get censored and banned everywhere.
Not all left-wingers think biological males can be women. Not all lefties like the white male bashing that's everywhere. Not all lefties want unbridled immigration. I don't think multiculturalism works. But only certain people get a voice in mainstream media, on the left and the right. They try to put us in boxes and keep us divided.
@@jezra4427 Literally Destiny
@@jezra4427 lmao
“A lot of the tactics of left leaning folks are just shaming,” damn, that hit hard
Shaming isn't just a tactic for the "left leaning folks" though many on the right use it just as much & it's just as brain meltingly stupid when they do it. Just look at anytime a boomer goes on a rant about how games like GTA are turning kids into carrier criminals or the satanic evils of Pokemon. Or how women even being given the choice of abortion for ANY reason is akin to whores being allowed to murder babies.
Well yes, because conservatives are mindless animals that do not respond to logic or reason or empathy. Conservatism lends itself to narcissism and solipsism extremely well, to the point of being built on them. Shut the fuck up.
Lol if that sentence hits hard you should read more 💀
I mean the right does the same thing right left center don’t fucking matter all are clowns and idiots
What happened? When I was growing up liberals were all about building everyone's self esteem and being anti-guilt.
My guess is since religion is going away, a lot of people who would have been dogmatic, morally superior religious people in the past are on the secular left now.
I have never been disgusted by an online content creator before hearing about Hassan. Everything about him from his upbringing to narcissism is 100% ironically hypocritical. Im almost happy there’s videos like this that call him out because I always see clips of him getting passes.
Jesus christ Aba and Preach are the best at exposing how shitty people are by letting their own things they said on video speak for themselves lmao
I swear bro it's almost like it's fake like he can't be that brain dead
Well said
Right?? It's like people just expose themselves as soon as these two enter the chat...
Out of context clips? Lol aba is a highschool dropout who though it was a good idea to volunteer for the army. Thats stupider than anything hasan has every said
@@Kate-is5mz then when they make videos in response to try and laugh it off or save face they make it worse lmao
I hope Hasan learns to be more open minded when it comes to people having a different opinion than him
Not possible for him
These aren't his actual opinions he's just saying what his braindead fans wanna hear while shilling an agenda.
There’s no hope for those ppl 😕🤝
don't know him at all but im guessing he's also living in la ? that's a tall order of him if that's the case.
Fat chance lol
Hasanabi 101 as a former fan:
1. Never criticize Hasan directly and if you do preface with “sorry, not a troll”
2. Never expect consistency or nuance and if you do your a “debatebro”
3. Everyone who isn’t a 5 yr viewer or mod is a hate watcher/troll/clout chaser
4. If not for hasan someone “worse” would take his spot so we need to defend him at all costs
5. Socialism = Aesthetics over substance
At what point did you become a former fan? What did hasan do that changed your mind? Also when you were a fan what was the appeal of him?
I'm really struggling to understand why anyone in any way towards the left could like his guy. I've tried talking to hasan fans. All they did was say I can't talk because I follow Adam something on RUclips who said something about nuclear bombs hasan thinks is stupid. They pretty much parotted the same sentence hasan said on stream.
Genuinely interested. (are they very young? Like is hasan appealing the same way jake Paul is appealing?)
Boom. One of the best descriptions I've ever heard.
I say that as a socialist and a former fan of his.
@@yautjacetanu No hassan isn't appealing in the same way, hassan gives off the illusion of being an intellectual/educated and a feeling of moral compass superiority if you listen to him. But heck if I know I never was a fan of Hassan, not even close.
@@potxtoe yeah that's why I'm interested and wanna know from fans. I can understand what you're saying as a possible reason to like hasan but you can get that from a lot of political streamers. Like you could say the same about the fans of destiny, vaush, maybe Lauren Southern, even aba and preach to some extent.
None of the streamers are actually very clever when it comes to politics. Destiny has come the closest to real life politics but still very far compared to the thousands of people and academics who work in that world. I'm saying this as a destiny fan and someone who has academic friends, but it's a guilty pleasure to enjoy vaush and destiny so much because its pseudo intellectual and makes me feel morally superior. If I wanted to actually get into political takes I'd read more books.
So that's why I wanna know from real fans.
I've seen one answer on this thread and the personal literally said they were a fan because hasan was hot so they barely listened to what he had to say. So it seems like literally the appeal is the same as jake Paul. Its a bunch of teenagers waning to be hasan, wanting to be a millionaire having sex with prostitutes, driving fast cars and thats it.
@@yautjacetanu nice question,personally I’ve always wanted to be politically informed but never really tried until I found myself veering into toxic red pill shit when I was 18 and had a self reflection moment and looked online for any intro to leftist beliefs and happened to see hasan’s podcast with h3h3 and he aesthetically seemed to me as a intro to leftist beliefs and had hours of content so I quickly became a fan so I’d say this is his appeal and explains his growth but after doing more research of my own on leftist/socialist ideals to better understand the concepts hasan threw around constantly to explain his takes.
After this process and watching other leftist speakers debate hasan on topics and hasan couldnt lecture like his stream is usually formatted and he failed anytime he had to veer from Noam Chomsky quotes or surface level concepts, anytime he had to debate an opposing speaker who forced him to explain his takes and actually engage he couldn’t which quickly turned me off to his content.
Honestly I don’t think he is a political streamer because he never engages politically with anyone who opposes so his stream is just a lecture to young mostly “reformed” leftists who believe Hasans theory that he is a modern day Che Guevara and their part of a movement. That would explain why their so anti criticism of any kind towards hasan in the stream even to explain his own takes
My daughter tells me I'm transphobic because I don't agree with the movement that's happening now. It's so frustrating.
Tell her to go wrestle a man with a pony tail and lipstick. See how well she does.
@@jordanjoestar8839 woman*
@@saint037 mental patient*
@@saint037*woah man
@@anusperfecto4786 new gender unlocked🤣
"These guys who I don't know anything about, who I still don't know anything about..." proceeds to call them transphobes. Average hasan take.
What's with the pedophile profile pic bro?
I don’t know anything about them, but I do know they’re transphobes like everyone else- Hasan
Oh just like what they did saying him being a rich socialist makes no sense lol average take from Hasan haters
Typical from a lot of folks these days. They argue against someone even though they admit they haven’t looked into them much. I have a hard time tolerating people who don’t even research or try to learn about what they are so against.
@@lmm8960 Bro the guy's discord would literally spam criminal images of children literal scum
Hassan's like one of those high school socialists that read half the Wikipedia page on Marxism, but never grew out of that phase
God damn nailed it
Yep. Edge lord socialist.
the guy lives in 2M houses, drives 100k cars and f_-ks pron stars then claim to be for the working class... hes so disconnected, he argues about useless topics and make a fool of himself
Hey don’t knock my countey man, dude had some good ideas.
The implementation….. yeah…. That went horribly wrong.
Uh i mean Marx… not every over enthusiastic high schooler is my kin…
I can relate though…
But i mean the intetion was decent, implementation is kinda a fail
Which is kinda what 95% matters
Aba & Preach will be on Instagram live at 1pm EST accepting anyone who wants to critique.
I’ll be there lol🍿
Yeah to criticize Hassan. How that man got rich is beyond me. Must have been help from his Uncle is the only thing that pops to my mind.
Yay
He pays so little in taxes and only got relevant from his uncle he is a fraud.
I would like you guys to look at the girls rugby team in Guam. One transgender women injured 3 girls. One.
The way you guys edited in all the samples absolutely has me & my friends who are watching ROLLING on the floor. I love you guys ❤😂
The fact we’re even having these discussions shows how far we’ve fallen as a society. When your living so comfortably you just start looking for sh*t to complain about
Actually
okay yes, right, so basically from the beginning of time people have been peaceful, non-violence in their strongly differing convictions. NO. No, no you see this phenomena of people arguing over semantics of things just started with the development of modern society. Delusional AF.
in the uk police forces are told not only to immediately treat any officer who changes gender identity as their chosen gender immediately but they can also strip search suspects of their new chosen sex and if the person complains it is a hate incident and potentially a hate crime. this means a male officer can come to work, say he is trans and strip search female suspects and if they complain they could be charged with a hate crime
Word to mother!
I dunno I think that means we've come so far as a society that we have to nit pick at things. It's like being a really good artist in art school and the prof has to look for the minor things to critique about.
Imagine having a trans wife, trans kids, and a trans am car, but because you don't wanna see them play in female sports. You're automatically a transphobe. Maybe being a transphobe is not that bad.
They completely over used the word to where they made it a meaningless word.
To their detriment
female sports, you're* but yeah I agree. The word has become incredibly overused.
Which is the point. When language is meaningless, you can mold it to me what you want in the moment.
@@JacobHayden911 he even didn’t use “you’re” incorrectly in his unedited comment
Even a trans am car😂👌🏻
From the deepest part of my Turkish heart, I thank you Aba & Preach for giving it to this dumpster fire of hypocrisy called Hasan"Abi" and I really recommend people not calling him Abi btw. Abi short for ağabey is an honorific in Turkish lang meaning Big bro. That dude is a whole clown show not deserving of that name.
I'd love to see him podcasting in Turkey and seeing the Turks react
Thanks for the info
@@Weird782 I don’t think a lot of people will take him seriously
Aynen
hasan abi is quite the disgrace to Turkish ppl
Weight and height makes a big difference in sports, my daughter was so good at martial arts other competitors starting losing or gaining weight so they didnt have to compete against her. She agreed to go up a weight to fight people that were heavier and yes she did awesome but she said it was so physically harder to fight them all, they were stronger she said they hit like a truck its just the truth the power behind that extra weight is a massive difference.
This just keeps getting better and better
You are the chosen one. Read below to find the meaning of life.............
TRANSPHOBIC!
As a trans-person in the community, I don't agree with trans-people being in the sports that they identify with. I believe the only way it will possibly wake these people up is if someone dies as a result.
@@Kuhmodo 🤣🤣🤣 I'm crying
We here for it 🍿
indeed
The more I hear people try to force others into thier own opinionated categories. With this dictator level of confidence & lack of open minded possibility. The more I think they know Jack shit....Hassan is a great example of this.
thats a good explanation of how I feel actually
This isn't satire?
@@handsofsteelsuperman2626 no, hasan is not satire. He actually believes hes always right, and hasnt ever considered an opinion outside of his own per-determined biases. You view him parasocially as "just another dude" when he is in fact another completely golden spoon fed rich-as-all-hell rhetoric spewing money making scheme. Thats right, HE is the money making scheme.
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Hasan is the only person in history who could ever make Sneako look mature, get absolutely embarrassed by TwoMad and further buried by Aba And Preach. kudos
I mean Hasan is the bar in the inner circle of hell when it comes to left intellectualism. The devil would wanna crawl out of there if he had a chance
He had beef with sneako??? When?
True, those Sneako and Twomad beefs were hilarious
@@Knives7777 it on shneako channel
@@Knives7777 yep he reacted to some of sneako’s videos and kept calling him an incel and kept dishing random insults at him over it, sneako reacted to him and completely made Hasan look like a goof, do you realise how childish and lame you have to be to make SNEAKO out of all people look like the bigger person? if i was hasan after that i wouldn’t even make videos anymore 💀
francis ngannou grew up in a sand mine, had no training nor acess to it, he was very disadvantaged many ways.
so he should be allowed to fight a rich middleweight ;)
This has always been the fundamental issue with Hasan. He just doesn't care to actually provide arguments for anything. He just yells the same 2-5 talking points. The annoying part about this is for people like me who actually want to know if we're wrong. If we're wrong, give us reasons why. We are not married to the issue. But he just can't and never does. As you guys showed in the video, the second a trans viewer called him out on his last debate, he starts going at them super hard then claims to be against the negativity and toxicity.
Hasan seems to think that, because he doesn't like debates, he can just suddenly become dogshit at presenting counter-arguments and positions. These are not the same. Like, if a mother fucker asks me "oh, you really like that TV show? What was good about it" I'm not gonna respond with "I DONT WANNA DEBATE" 😂
He doesn’t do debates anymore, it doesn’t matter if the person was right wing or left wing he’d always get destroyed. He stopped debating almost entirely after a few brutal debates with Destiny.
He’s just really dumb that’s really all there is, it’s not that he doesn’t try or care he’s just very stupid.
Yoooooo!!!! “We are not married to the issue” was one hell of a line.
I am with you 100% on everything you said. Excellent commentary
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@@dumbidiot973 True. He tried that thing with Christian Walker recently and it didn’t go so well lmao. That’s what led to him being extremely toxic to that trans chatter.
Each time someone uses the word "transphobe" it loses a little more meaning.
Same with racist, sexist, facist, ect..
any word that ends in phobe is a made up word that never had any meaning.
It never had meaning. Have you met a transsexual? They are the least frightening thing on earth. There is more to be scared of from an angry duck...
Those slanderous words are the diminished weapons of a deteriorating mainstream media and 'woke' communities.
Aba and Preach smoked him on this video, love your work boys!
These words have already completely lost meaning in many people's eyes, because they are used incorrectly more often than they are used correctly.
For people to understand where words like "racist" and "homophobe" came from, they need to remember what real prejudice looked like, back when people refused to treat marginalised races as human beings, and when homosexuality was illegal. Not just screaming "racist" because someone worded a sentence poorly.
Finally someone is calling Hassan out on his shit. He has constantly been like this , and constantly getting a pass
EFAP also called out on him hard
@@TheRedGauntlet checking that out now ! Never heard of these guys before
@@stainSqaud Is from them i found out about this channel XD
For real
Leftist agenda
Preach got a point. The louder you yell, the more confident you seem, the more people will believe you. My Schizophrenic ex-roommate used to scream about gravity being fake and the only reason we didn't fly off the planet was because of magnetism and metal in our bodies. Not kidding when I tell you some people believed him...
I actually hate the followers more than I hate the person screaming.
"You aren't exactly a Vaush at trans debates."
That's setting the bar incredibly low.
Maybe that is why he got so triggered 😂
@@khajiithadwares2263 Vaush came out of Destiny's community (recently got banned on twitch) and Destiny hates him like he hates Hasan. He's basically a debate bro. Useful at times, but most of the time an idiot
What is a Vaush?
@@Kthatslife Vaush is another leftest who got clout by debating people. I personally find him more tolerable than Hassan because he can admit when he is wrong and will actually listen to the other side. Some people don't like him regardless because of his stances. Which as we know in this world today, if you don't agree with one stance a person has, you can not agree with any stance that person has.
@@stevenmtaylor21 i think people don’t like Vaush because he doesn’t believe in principles unless those principles help him win.
Lol I welcome these roasts. Hasan is so insecure and insufferable. He HAS to constantly feel like he's the smartest person in the room, otherwise he has a meltdown
Insufferable is the exact word i’ve been using to describe this cretin and his bad takes.
I have noticed lately any slight criticism of him just ends in him insulting them. Weird way to deal with valid criticism.
That dude is the opposite of insecure. He’s narcissistically obnoxious, thinking himself smarter and greater than the critic and therefore justifying his attacks. God complex.
Imagine he had to deal with real people instead of being an armchair warrior.
He wouldn't be the smartest person in the room even if he were alone in the bathroom dropping a massive turd.
PS Turds are transphobic
@@happygrass5 I think it's related to his intellectual insecurity, look how he sperged out at that person who told him to stop debating topics he's not knowledgeable about... got instantly puffed up cuz he seemed to feel inferior and had to try and prove he wasnt
Holy shit, doesn’t it feel good to be an aba and preach fan sometimes. They’re like superheroes taking down these toxic perpetrators. Fresh and fit, derrick jackson, now hasan.
you're right about that lol
Cringe
@@kogoromori5350 yeah cringe
Who tf is Derrick Jackson?
Hang on. I have research to do, brb.
@@devincorns409 you’re in for a ride lmao
As someone who was a boxer, i purposefully trained against people in heavier weight class. I lost alot, but in my weight class I am am very capable thanks to jumping in the deep end with my training method. It is not safe, it is not for everyone.
Why are you saying that here?
either I'm completly brainwashed by these two guys, or everyone that picks an argument with them just gets shit on.
How people can deny the most obvious things is beyond me
Honestly yes
You're brainwashed lol
Like what the fuck does "defile the category" even mean in terms of "facts and logic"
I don't know what you're really referring to but I watch Hasan's videos and these 2 guys are absolutely dog shit. It's really not cool or funny anymore that RUclipsr's do stuff like this. There needs to be accountability.
I’d say they do a good job dissecting arguments so you’re doing well with your research/entertainment value. I’m more right leaning than these gentlemen but that doesn’t deter from the fact that they have a nuanced take on this. I’m sure as I research them more I’ll find disagreements we have BUT they seem cool enough to have a cohesive conversation with about it and they could learn/teach with their point of view.
This vid should be retitled as “The Roast of HasanAbi”
pin or truth
Yes
I love it when A&P destroy frauds like this.
Damn, the Pin of Truth is rare, most people out here getting the Pin of Shame. Good job homie.
Delicious karma
The "You're a bigot!" "You're a transphobe!" argument is literally the same thing that one kid on the playground always did when you hit him with the finger lazer beam hologram glock. You'd hit him with the "PEWSH PEWSH!" & he would just yell "Aha! I think not! Forcefield!" & take no accountability for his bs. I hated playing with that kid.
U just mad that you didn't know how to force field, filthy casual
Who needs a force field when you can dodge like Neo
bro u played with imaginary guns as a child u cant have an opinion on real world issues
honestly its literally the same thing
Or the kid that you play in rock paper scissors and he throw 👈 "GUN" or 🙏 "GOD".
OR "Any mini my ne mo" turn into "my momma told me to pick this one right over here but i want to pick this one right over here in the year 1998 because last year was 1997 and i was 7 years old born on April 31st" lmao
If there's no difference between the genders/sexes then why is there absolutely no trans men raising the ranks in sports the way trans women are
At this point, I think he knows you guys are right, I think he just has too much pride and too much to lose in admitting it because his entire throne will crumble if he does. He's just reaching out for anything to grab on to to maintain his credibility and following.
Just look how he tweaks while listening to A&P. Probably trying his hardest to think how to spin the argument other way around.
From what I have seen, and I will admit it is not much (thankfully). Even the people he claims stand for, don't give him much credit. We should get him in a room with Ethan Klein and have them compete for the most stupid non argument, and the most cringeworthy assertion.
@@AjenjoAnejo They already did that themselves. They have a show together 😂😂
Hasan is too dillusional and self centered to admit he is wrong
Twitch debate bros like Hasan and Vaush are a cancer of the online left.
HasanAbi is the living breathing personification of the meme "yes im vegan, yes i eat meat, we exist". saying two contradictory things in the same breath without blinking an eye. its hard to take someone like him seriously.
The doublethink is strong with him indeed, it's pretty common in the woke community
Im 99% vegan.
Because im vegan in-between meals👌
In regards to Aba and Preach saying Hasan can’t be a socialist being a millionaire, that’s like saying you can’t be non-racist while being white. Believing and preaching daily that there should be more socialist policies adopted within the government doesn’t mean that you yourself can’t make money. The whole idea of socialism if letting the government take care of the redistribution of wealth through social programs. If their argument is that since Hasan’s a socialist he should have given away his money away, that’s actually counterintuitive because donating money to charity (usually for tax breaks) and not trusting the government with one’s money is often a conservative ideology.
Just to be clear, I don’t think Hasan is right about them being transphobic, and I’m not saying that socialism is what’s best for this country. Just trying to point out the flawed logic they and many others in the comments are using. You could say the same thing about Bernie being a millionaire- the argument is pointless.
You have to give him credit, he's made millions of dollars by making stupid arguments. Most people literally only know who he is because of videos like this mocking his stupidity.
Let's not forget that he can literally steal content and he retains his entire viewer base when he leaves his chair for 20 minutes while a 20 minute video plays. His chair is empty and everything.
@@HalfFang he usual goes to piss- that doesnt normally take 20 mins lmao.
He admits to being a dumbfuck, that doesn't his points are bad. I'm guessing ur right wing so ur gonna biased anyways
Bro you should see the amount of people in his comment sections sections vids that absolutely and vehemently believe A&P are transphobic based solely on Hasan calling them that. You have to keep in mind he never even watched the video and they all like, hot damn he's on to something.
Famous uncle.
Internship that gave him a starting audience.
Pretty face (subjective)
Saying what people want to hear.
95% things going for him from the onset.
5% actual work.
I don't always agree with Aba but i will say one thing. When Aba is dedicated to a grilling/roast or exposing of someone there's nobody better. The edit is unreal, he just goes to a really different place and i love it to bits. He's amazing.
What you said about people living on Twitter is so true. Once you step out in to the real world you find that people are fairly reasonable whether they’re left or right leaning
Can't talk to Twitter Kids old or young
Don't argue with an idiot. He'll only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. There's no version of it where they admit they're wrong or give up lol.
Ammo. My insurance against idiocracy, a whole civilization of morons that may one day turn on me and try to put me in a death camp... Is ammo. Lots and lots of ammo.
People who portray themselves as moralistic voices of reason are often the same who share a distinct hatred for the underprivileged. Hasan is a classic example of that. He can make mistakes and learn from them and change... But I highly doubt it.
He grew up very wealthy
He would need to have humility in order to do that i.e. "I was wrong about XYZ" or "I admit that I had no idea what I was talking about", but most people who have a "morally surperior" air about them will not do that because being morally superior is part of their identity. I don't see him changing but I hope that I will be proven wrong.
Edit: a word
What's this take?
@@joseureste8257 totally shocking. Spoiled rich brats who never hear no, tend to be narcissistic assholes who are experts at playing the victim and getting what they want. It's all in their environment, growing up.
Wait you just argued that this MF hates who he advocates for and then say he can "learn" from them and change. THE MF MUST BE DOING IT ON PURPOSE KNOWINGLY WTF DO YOU MEAN?
After he said that America deserved 9/11, I lost all respect I have for him and also unfollowed right there and then.
I am not from USA but the guy doesn't even think how the people who lost their love ones because of that event feel.
I played varsity soccer throughout high school, and I could keep up decently with guys in pickup games. When my varsity team was told we were schedule to play a club team of 13-14 year old boys we laughed, until we got THRASHED 9-2. I really appreciate you talking about this issue, because it’s demoralizing as a woman to hear guys like Hasan talk about removing spaces for women.
Hasan never had the makings of a varsity athlete
@@mynameskobe6838 idk, he seems pretty good at stretching 🤔
Hasan is nuts , women and men deserve theire own spaces but society is messed up and it's going to get more worse than it already is
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I hear you. I can’t stand people like Hasan and their lack of basic common sense. It’s frustrating and disgusting. No physical sport is perfectly fair, but we still have to try the best we can to make it an even playing field for everyone, especially when it comes to competition where it can make or break you as an athlete. It’s just mind boggling to me how people like him justify this nonsense with no regard for others, meanwhile they shout at the top of their lungs about how everyone else is hatefully oppressing such and such group. Absolutely baffling.
"Why are those unnatural advantages unfair?"
What?!?
If you couldn't take him serious before, this is where the buck stops. He's the type of person to say something isn't true just because he doesn't want to believe it and doesn't like it. But why is he so hard on trans women though??
Why are those unnatural advantages unfair? same fucking reason we don't use riods in sports, the same reason we hate hackers in video games. It fucking ruins the experience for everyone else who are genuinely competing. I don't know about u but I would rather lose to someone because they are much more skilled than me, than because they have some unfair advantage.
✨✨ just here to help engagement hehe
This is a take even the trans community think it's stupid and yet bimbo Hasan wanna take it
@@claude3879 his response: but who cares?
@@claude3879 trust me I get what you mean, I'm not on either side, I'm not well informed enough. But why isn't that the same energy for somebody like Kevin Durant on Somebody like Robert Covington. Durant is taller, he has a larger wingspan, he's faster, why is that not the same. Again, not trying to attack you, just genuinely asking a question.
Could tell this dude hasn't struggled enough in life. His viewpoints and the way he acts is that of a spoiled 7 year old.
@Andrew h1213 I think I'll save myself the torture
@Andrew h1213 Stunlock master
He hasnt hes been spoon fed everything and raise in a wealthy household.
LOL. That is an argument style that I had no name in my head for. Fast fire stun locks! Overwhelm with fast paced stupidity!
Yeah cause you've struggled so much, as you type your reply through your pocket super computer.
None of us have really struggled here.
The lost generation , we are becoming more confused as years passed by. That's why mental health issues arises not because we roast and defend ourselves but our brain has been just confused.
It's becoming clearer and clearer to me the gap between the disconnection on today's Social Constructs and the fundamentals of biology.
That's the very foundation of today's progressive vs Conservative political movements. It's clear that we are progressing blindly by removing our biological imperatives and we tend to follow this subjective idealism rather than taking and accepting the objective facts that is constant (like biological matters)
I don't know where this safe and convenient life leading us to nowhere.
In combat sports, weight is the best proxy we have for “size” while gender is a proxy for “natural athletic ability”. The standards obviously are proxies and are not dispositive but theyre the best we got. People train AROUND these proxies so to change them indiscriminately is dangerous and against the fundamentals of sports.
I did wrestling in high school, one day I was up against a guy on our team that was close to 300 I was only 180. I was strong and in shape but at that size difference there's no point.
Why you keep saying proxy
@@501DTB thats not even a remotely reasonable difference lol. Who is 300 in high school. Thats crazy
@@raphaelyanez4357 because its the correct word for what im sayin
This is a very good comment!
The funniest thing in all this is that I'm sitting here, watching 2 grown men state empirical, historical, scientific fact and somehow it is controversial and actually needs to be reiterated.
Welcome to 2022!
Really hope this craziness passes soon... but I bet the next craze is even worse.
@@tiredgardener If the last decade has shown us something, it's that the next craze will likely be worse lol
Fun times!
But the mean facts and common sense hurt my feewings 😣
@@CaulkMongler lmfao
The problem with twitch streamers is that their chat makes them feel like they know what they’re talking about. The Biggest streamers mostly act like know it alls and are rarely humble. He’s just living proof that people will passionately talk about shit they know nothing about. Don’t even bother to research. They think they are right by social media ratios
The social phenomena you are trying to explain is called Dunning-Kruger.
Yea it’s an echo chamber.
Hi I'm just here to help the engagement! Love aba and preach! They have very thought out takes
they literally have an automatic echo chamber no matter what they talk about, ironically i think the communities around say asmongold and xqc despite on the surface being more toxic are actually better due to the fact they tell their streamer if they are a dumbass and clown on them all the time
Didn't Kat Blaque also have this exact problem with some streamer just recently
I love how he has to look away from the camera because of the shame he can't help but feel for saying stuff even he doesn't believe. It's a very well paying job. That is the only reason he does it.
Preach - Puts the Oxy in Moron
Aba - Puts the chlamydia in women
Me - Try’s to put air back in lungs 😂
Puts the Moron in Oxy*
Mission failed lmao 😂😂😂
Lmfao
Me - puts the lotion on the skin
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I love yall man. Yall stay preaching, keep yo foot on they necks lol. I've always supported Trans people and women's right...in the last 4 years I've been called transphobe and that I hate women too many times to count...cuz I don't agree with one thing. For instance , I was in a group of single parents (90% women) and the topic about child custody came up....and I was talked about like a dog cuz I don't believe women should automatically get custody, it should be 50/50 until established in court. I ended up being kicked out cuz I finally called someone out they name after getting tagged and dragged for hrs.
This world is crazy,
why you you would ever think a mans opinion is valid in leftists spaces is beyond me. If you dont share their opinion, you are out of the team. This is what ideologies are, their opiniins and "lived experiences" will always be more valid than yours. its called "intersectional" feminism or somethibg like that.
That's crazy, some women think that all women are some angels and never would harm a child.
The left is completely cannibalistic; as soon as you disagree, that's it - you're next on the menu
@@NoName12344o right that shit is dumb it gets on my nerves when I hear stories about a mother obviously harming her kids in some way but the system still let's her have them 🙄
This guy Hassan is just lazy at counter argument formulation. He's so used to his own echo chamber that he hasn't developed the skills at properly debating opposing views.
Great content gents 🙌🏾
I thought they would never make a video about trans people in sports again. This is important I guess... can't wait for the mext video.
It's amazing how someone can become rich by pretending to care about the poor while never actually doing anything to help the poor. I don't think he shouldn't be allowed to have a nice house, I just don't understand why he's done nothing to help people who literally aren't allowed to have houses. It's one thing to live in a very nice house in the midst of a massive homeless population, it's another thing entirely if the main reason you're able to afford that house is because you're constantly talking about the plight of that same homeless population. People are giving him money to pretend to care about the poor instead of just giving their money to the poor, and that says a lot about how far gone the human race is, I think.
He's a champagne socialist
This! this right here💯💯💯.
@@siddharthakvr5154 and he admits to it, too. it's his twitter banner if I'm not mistaken. i hate to use the term grifter as people like him have worn it out, but i think it applies here somewhat.
to be fair I have watched his twitch and he never pressures his fans to donate he just says hey if you're enjoying the show you can subscribe for free with an Amazon prime subscription (which gives him I think $5 a month) and he is very transparent about how much he earns so it's not like hes pretending he's not a multimillionaire.
He can't solve homelessness anyway the only way you can do that is through government policies the same way some European countries like Finland has and if he uses his large platform to help promote policies that will help peoples lives I think his impact on the world is a net positive
I'm not defending his other points I acknowledge his Ukraine takes are garbage, his dating advice is garbage, his stance on trans sports is horrible and he's lacking in self awareness. and I think most of his success comes down to favourable relationships with destiny and TYT in the past as well as just following what Bernie Sanders (someone who actually has a good understanding of politics) attaching himself and becoming associated with him and his policies
but I don't believe that their is anything wrong with being a socialist and also having money
Democrats like lube the poor
This is what people without an argument do yell...my dad always says "a person that yells and swears a lot is just a feeble brain trying to express itself"...dude is a perfect example
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That's often the case
As my dad always says, "don't match with a half-wit"
Are you talking about Hasan or Aba or Preach? Genuinely confused
It's not so black and white. Yelling does not mean you are stupid, it means you are angry. Now, yes sometimes yelling is a tactics of someone with no arguments/is stupid, BUT, invalidating someones point "because they are screaming" is oversimplifying things. THat being said, yeah Hasan has no real arguments...
This man has no argument. He expects others to give arguments for their position yet has NONE. calling people transphobic is not an argument!
Yeah but have you considered he told someone to suck his dick. Pretty strong argument.
/s
That’s because you’re a transphobe! Transphobe! Transphobic! Transphobe!
His argument is what we understand, on the Left, as a classic example of "imagined hypocrisy". Typically we'd see conservatives doing it, but in this case, Hasan is the one doing it (quite ironic). Hasan is imagining his opponents to be engaging in hypocrisy. That the only reason why they're okay with some advantages, but not other types of advantages (related to transness), is that they must be transphobic. Simple explanation, right?
Except Hasan is wrong. There is no hypocrisy. It's a perfectly consistent - albeit imperfect - position. We already have categorization of sports, this is nothing new. Is that categorization perfect? No. But adding trans-women to women's sports goes well beyond a threshold of what we'd consider "reasonable", and people understand that. Hasan has to accept that people can be against this specific type of advantage, while not being transphobic. It doesn't necessarily mean they're being hypocritical, and thus, it doesn't inform us on how transphobic they are.
No doubt some of the people doing this critique ARE transphobes... but you can't wholesale categorize everyone as a transphobe based off this position. It's utterly ridiculous.
Now I know why he refuses to debate anyone in person.
All you have to do to win a debate with the "trans women are real women" nut jobs is to ask them how they define "woman". You will get varied answers, and not a single one of them will make sense. You know they're full of it when none of them can even agree on one definition of woman. They can't describe what a woman is, yet they have no problem verbally abusing anyone who says certain people aren't women.
I'm now hasanphobic🤣🤣🤣🤣
to be fair, I only discovered you guys after the Hasan drama. Without putting my own opinion in, this is articulated very well. Def got a subscribe from me, I enjoy your talks and honesty mixed with comic relief.
You are weak I am weak even more than a person who plays sport.
Honest question, what about his streams or his personality made you watch his content? He seems extremely unlikable by the way he carries himself through arguments/debates.
@@GasEnjoyer I would say it's because he at least kind of sticks to what he truly believes whether I agree or not I feel that's admirable at the least
I played girls’ tennis in high school. If a biological male joined the team and I was forced to play with/against them, I would have quit instantly. It’s not even close how much physically stronger and faster men are capable of being than women. Serena Williams was asked if she would play the best male tennis players, and she said she never would because it would just be humiliating for her. She recognizes the difference.
yeah had to play against girls in soccer because there was often not a girls team at their school. no one gave a fuck
There’s a literal video of mixed tennis with pros, and it’s usually the dude serving to the female and the dude scores every time lol.
Trans women aren't men. You can't compare women playing with cis-men with those playing with trans women who have been on HRT for several years
@@ejay_uk if you went through puberty as a male, you have physiological advantages over women. testosterone replacement does not magically remove the advantages gained.
@@ejay_uk and for clarity, i dont care how anyone wants to live their life. just dont be disingenuous about basic human biology.
it’s funny reading his chat and seeing that they’re mostly just agreeing with him when he’s saying nothing remotely intelligent
Ironically like Trump supporters, they are an echo chamber.
His Audience is literally middle schoolers ...
Yeah I mean it's just teenagers that don't realize how the world works. Not their fault and they'll grow out of it eventually.
@@Bannerlordfor The problem is that they won't grow out of it, they'll grow into it instead. There's a lot of people that are as ignorant as Hasan.
@@Bannerlordfor that is a good point. Hope reality hits them when they go outside and they change.
Do people who follow that Hasan guy actually believe what he says? Or do people just watch him for how stupid his comments are...
They're as stupid as he is
Both
Some of them are brainwashed and have an inability to think for themselves, to be sure.
Biology is transphobic
Sincerely,
- Hasan
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im a cannibal
@@geenhaaien nice
One thing you guys have to remember is that he doesn’t care
He doesn’t care about the trans people, the sport, the women, and the truth or even finding it
He lives in his bubble behind his computer like a teenager
He’s not listening
He’s reacting
The fact hasan has fans is beyond on me. Every time someone disagrees with him he makes stupid arguments and just throw insults😂
Don't go off of what you see in React videos. Watch the streams. He streams 8-10 hours everyday. Think about that. 8-10 hours. And there's so little bad shit in comparison to the good he does. Seriously. Imagine 8-10 hours a day. 7 days a week. Talking to the toxic internet. Only really having a few controversies. Pretty impressive he's not been cancelled yet if you ask me.
@@WTWAK That excuse doesn't work. Hasan doesn't just say dumb stuff in the heat of the moment and regrets it afterwards, he regularly puts out mind bogglingly stupid takes and goes on to defend those takes for weeks afterwards.
@@WTWAK bro stop sucking off his meat. I watch couple of his streams before and the guy is a idiot and never knows what he is talking. And you acting streaming 8 hours a day is so hard yet every time he watches a video he gone for most it or just eating food or saids something dumb as hell. And on top of that he is a socialist. So he can go kick rocks for all I care🤡. Also this is the same guy who lost a Twitter debate to twomad and when said he wanted to debate him on his stream and twomad accept it he started making a bunch of excuses. You know stupid have to be to lose to twomad of all people😂😂
@@WTWAK "good he does' LOL
It is just that those who do not believe in the truth must necessarily believe in a lie.
23:34 Late to comment but they don’t do anything with the prostate during gender confirmation surgery because of the possible damage to nerves and urinary infections, so someone after the surgery those people can still get prostate cancer. All it took was a simple search to find that out too.
He’s attractive and speaks very assertively with confidence, any uninformed or casual viewer can fall for the facade
This. I don't think it's necessarily people's fault that they follow him. I think that schools should focus more on questioning theories/stances and encourage people to do their own research.
Even not knowing much when it comes to most political subjects this idiot has some of the most bad takes ever. But it will easily hook dumb middle and high schoolers who think their life is so hard and that this guy is on their side. I'm so happy that even to this day I never really used social media. I only got into this part of RUclips by the time I dropped out of college and have been in the work force for 3 years.
@@Bannerlordfor that's what critical thinking means to me and exactly why it should be taught
@@Magicalnora I went to an average public school district in the suburbs in the 80s and 90s. Critical Thinking was drilled into us quite often. Did schools just stop after 9/11? Cause it seems like that's Gen Z's biggest problem. Their hearts may be in the right place, it's nice to see that bullying is way less than it was when I was a kid for example, but they often fall deep into young know-it-all territory and have no problem bullying people for pointing out that.
He attractive??
I appreciate Aba admitting that the tactics of leftists boil down to shaming people without making any effort to prove beyond doubt the factual nature of some of the beliefs. That is really beginning to prove counter productive in the various debates around culture wars. This guy calling trans people transphobic just sums it all up.
Cuz trans people can't be transphobes. Minorities can't be racist. Women can't be sexist against women. True. /s
@@moisesmarquez7564 These comparisons ain't the same, yes minorities can racist, but a trans person being a transphobe is like a man being a misandrist. The person wouldn't transition in the first place.
At first it wasn't that way but now they are just like do this because we say so and if you don't we'll try to cancel you and talk about the bad things that you have in your life LOL I'm not voting Republican and at this point I'm probably not voting Democrat either. I declare My independence from both of those plantations
@@Wilmorgrandexter wouldn’t that be more related to self hate? Like a white person hating white people. That ish happens.
I don’t disagree with your initial statements at all, but the reply has me a bit confused ^ ^
How about we not generalize the left or the right lol.
I genuinely don't understand how there are people in this world who enjoy watching Hasan's content.
Has to be bots, has to be.
@@nsbdbsbsbdbzbz8555 Na bro, his chat is active, it's sad really.
His real audience ACTUALLY believes in his takes religiously. It's like an echochamber cult.
@@redcube9629 that’s incredible tbh they really can’t be that dense……right? lol
We have to understand why people like these things so we can know whenever we're becoming more like "Hassans" and etc. It's all part of human nature so it has to do with something we all share
For the first time ever, I have to disagree with your take. Hasan is a hero. He goes to cancer wards to educate patients on the pain cancer causes and if they don't agree, they are cancer-phobes.
Just remember that even if you're a trans woman no matter how you feel you're going to have to get your prostate checked like a man. 🤷🏿♂️
We just enjoy it more 😉
@@jessieo5757 your still a man pretending to be a woman
@@jessieo5757 Jessie you funny bastard, please spread your sense of humor as best you can!
Lol but they’re women tho
Why can't more be like Jessie?
You could literally put a sticker on a porta-potty that says "hasan is dumb" and he'd go on a 40 min twitch rant about it. Appreciate yall for always telling it like it is
His income depends on it
That's one of the key traits of a narcissist. You criticize them and they have a meltdown.
All he needs to know is you're alive and not trans so you're transphobic
💯he can’t handle a shred of criticism
Hasan is EASILY one of the worst people on the internet, and I am actually scared to meet a Hasan fan irl. Imagine the smell.
You are as reductionist as your thinking, honestly ! Lamest , laziest remark ever !His global fandom is varied , he has a 93 yr old on there . Black and white much?
Jokes on you, Hasan fans never leave their mothers basements
Honestly just the look of his face pisses me off
Sadly most Hansan fans are women rather than men
Repeal the nine ...ten
I bet hassan has bot accounts that follow him, no way he has fans