Nice Single U plotter. I just picked up a couple Dell R620's with 2697''s V2 and 384gb ram in each one for total price of $180, stole them at a local auction. Pleasantly surprised with getting 23min plots with each all in Ram. Keep up the content nice seeing different options and growing the Chia farm.
Awesome video.. definitely going to build one of these units… I wanted to play around with the Asrock Rack 1U but you’re absolutely right, I should try and keep my cost to a minimum especially starting out!!! Ty
About those NVME risers, you can get one from Silverstone that will fit in a 1U case without needing the angled riser, so you would be able to use more of the PCI
Is xfs the filesystem than can stripe across disks or am I thinking of btrfs? I'm guessing zfs would have too much overhead to be worthwhile for plotting
Nice overview, very well detailed. Was looking for Chia plot videos and came across this one. Got a good bit of storage and hardware there for the price. From my research so far, Chia doesn’t seem to be worth it to mine “for a profit” unless of course you have a perfect electric generation + hardware situation but it does look like a good excuse to geek out on hardware. 😅
Yes, I don't look at it as "for profit". I view it as a hobby that may make a few $$ on the side, but definitely not an investment. I haven't sold any coins yet and don't plan to. I'll wait and see where it goes in the next 5 years - maybe I'll get lucky, who knows.
9:40 The E5-2699 v3 has an all core turbo of 2.8GHz; the 3.6GHz max turbo is only for one core. So you're not really missing much, but if you had the thermal headroom on v3 CPUs you can use a turbo core unlock modded BIOS (which would allow you to run all 18 cores at the 3.6GHz max turbo), but probably not on a Supermicro server.
It's more about power headroom than thermal headroom when unlocking the V3 CPUs. They are hard limited to their TDP so there will only be gains if your all core workload maxes out the stock all core clock but doesn't reach the power limit. With the unlock it will run up to the power limit, increasing clocks. For heavy workloads that already reach the TDP with stock clocks there won't be any difference.
@@TheAnoniemo Yeah, that's a good point actually; I'd forgotten the v3 had a TDP that couldn't be bypassed. You'd probably only get about 3GHz on all cores then, perhaps 3.1-3.3GHz if you disabled a few cores (but then you'd have to profile the workload to see if you actually got a performance regression in that case). Thanks for correcting me.
@@amp888 I thought about doing the unlock to my dual 2678v3's, but in the end it would be a lot of work for very little gain and increased risk with all the messing about with firmware and bios.
@@TheAnoniemo Yeah, exactly the same thought process here. For some use cases I could definitely see it being worthwhile (the Miyconst hardware channel has quite a few videos with gaming and productivity benchmarks for turbo unlocked v3 CPUs, for example), but it didn't make sense for my own particular needs.
I get asked this a lot and it's a very difficult question to answer. There are a lot of factors that play in, such as your location, power cost, and how cheaply you're able to find equipment. The last time I calculated it out (been a few months) my ROI was around 3 years. I do not view this as a "get rich" scheme or an "investment". It's just a hobby to me that I love building out and learning.
I had dual E5-2686v3, which are basically 120w versions of the same chip, and they did 2.3Ghz under all core (36/72t) load. The scaling was 3.5Ghz for 1-2t load, 3.4Ghz 3-4t, 3.3Ghz 5-6t, 3.1Ghz 7-8t, 3.0Ghz 9-10t, 2.9Ghz 11-14t, 2.8Ghz 15-16t, 2.7Ghz 17-18t, 2.6Ghz 19-20t, 2.5Ghz 21-22t, 2.4Ghz 23-24t and 2.3Ghz for 25-36t.
Consider less desktop and more font. Can't see. You are saying what you type but would be nice to see outputs. What is ambient temp of the room? Perhaps, you could draw in some cold air from outside to pipe into front of server? Thanks for sharing
Absolutely can do ram plotting if you want. I don't know that you would see the benefits of it though unless you stepped up to a dual CPU system. The CPU is the bottleneck on this build.
You not gonna see 3.6ghz using so much cores. This is turbo lable of this cpu 5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/13/13 Its number of baseclock adding to turbo depending on how much cores are used. 13means +1300mhz ( 2300 base + 1300 turno will get you to 3600mhz) and its only on 1 and 2 cores. All core turbo is 2.8ghz.
I got that now. I didn't realized these work that way. The Intel website just says 3.60GHz but I'm not seeing where it mentions number of cores - frustrating to the unsuspecting person.
update and include how much power you are drawing - could be a nice machine for smb and genl purpose - in a 4u you will get better cooling, better performance
They do look pretty nice, but I'd probably go with a CSE-826 if I were doing 2U. I've always been a fan of the Supermicro chassis because they fit standard ATX motherboards making it easy to build out something specific to your needs and modify later :)
The barebones server is the only component you can't get at the same price right now. The seller has raised the price; however, he's still accepting offers. If you want one, put in an offer and see if he's willing to make a deal. Otherwise, you can set up alerts on eBay to get email notifications when a new result matches.
That e5-2699v3 is amazing and the price you got it for is awesome. Very nice hardware configured. 👍 *the only reason i might go with a v4 would be if the OS i plan to use drops support for the older v3 in an upcoming OS release. For example, vSphere v7.0 fully support it but v8.0, which was released just last month in October 2022, doesn't support e5-2600 v3 series anymore. But it does support the e5-2600 v4 series.
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may i want to do this but i cant stand that jet sound and it would be in my living room 24/7
any other way todo this that would still be cost effect
That's a great value plotter! Great build
Nice Single U plotter. I just picked up a couple Dell R620's with 2697''s V2 and 384gb ram in each one for total price of $180, stole them at a local auction. Pleasantly surprised with getting 23min plots with each all in Ram. Keep up the content nice seeing different options and growing the Chia farm.
Awesome video.. definitely going to build one of these units… I wanted to play around with the Asrock Rack 1U but you’re absolutely right, I should try and keep my cost to a minimum especially starting out!!! Ty
I enjoy so much your videos. Keep up the good work man!
About those NVME risers, you can get one from Silverstone that will fit in a 1U case without needing the angled riser, so you would be able to use more of the PCI
Oooo those look nice!! Thanks for the tip
The fan noise will compete with a jet on takeoff :D
Awesome build.
That is a dirt-cheap price for a setup like that.
You could switch the ext4 'array' to xfs (mkfs.xfs -m crc=1,finobt=0,reflink=0 ...) to squeeze a few more seconds out of it
I'll give it a try, thanks for the idea!
Is xfs the filesystem than can stripe across disks or am I thinking of btrfs? I'm guessing zfs would have too much overhead to be worthwhile for plotting
That got me down to 23.2 minutes. Nice!! Thanks!
You're welcome
Nice overview, very well detailed. Was looking for Chia plot videos and came across this one. Got a good bit of storage and hardware there for the price. From my research so far, Chia doesn’t seem to be worth it to mine “for a profit” unless of course you have a perfect electric generation + hardware situation but it does look like a good excuse to geek out on hardware. 😅
Yes, I don't look at it as "for profit". I view it as a hobby that may make a few $$ on the side, but definitely not an investment. I haven't sold any coins yet and don't plan to. I'll wait and see where it goes in the next 5 years - maybe I'll get lucky, who knows.
🤣🤣 Take a dremel to the PCIe pins. Love it!! I've done a few things like that before.
LOL. No reason not to if pins aren't needed, part is not needed, and it saves me $15 🙂
Sweet video mate
9:40 The E5-2699 v3 has an all core turbo of 2.8GHz; the 3.6GHz max turbo is only for one core. So you're not really missing much, but if you had the thermal headroom on v3 CPUs you can use a turbo core unlock modded BIOS (which would allow you to run all 18 cores at the 3.6GHz max turbo), but probably not on a Supermicro server.
It's more about power headroom than thermal headroom when unlocking the V3 CPUs. They are hard limited to their TDP so there will only be gains if your all core workload maxes out the stock all core clock but doesn't reach the power limit. With the unlock it will run up to the power limit, increasing clocks. For heavy workloads that already reach the TDP with stock clocks there won't be any difference.
@@TheAnoniemo Yeah, that's a good point actually; I'd forgotten the v3 had a TDP that couldn't be bypassed. You'd probably only get about 3GHz on all cores then, perhaps 3.1-3.3GHz if you disabled a few cores (but then you'd have to profile the workload to see if you actually got a performance regression in that case). Thanks for correcting me.
@@amp888 I thought about doing the unlock to my dual 2678v3's, but in the end it would be a lot of work for very little gain and increased risk with all the messing about with firmware and bios.
@@TheAnoniemo Yeah, exactly the same thought process here. For some use cases I could definitely see it being worthwhile (the Miyconst hardware channel has quite a few videos with gaming and productivity benchmarks for turbo unlocked v3 CPUs, for example), but it didn't make sense for my own particular needs.
Is Chia profitable at all? With the prices as they are, how long do you think you'll have to farm before you break even?
I get asked this a lot and it's a very difficult question to answer. There are a lot of factors that play in, such as your location, power cost, and how cheaply you're able to find equipment. The last time I calculated it out (been a few months) my ROI was around 3 years. I do not view this as a "get rich" scheme or an "investment". It's just a hobby to me that I love building out and learning.
@@HomeSysAdmin Maybe you should do a video on this, so you can link to it under future videos for all the people asking.
Anyone that ask how long til you ROi should just find something else to do/watch bc if u gotta ask for ROi your to 🐌 for crypto 🤯
I had dual E5-2686v3, which are basically 120w versions of the same chip, and they did 2.3Ghz under all core (36/72t) load. The scaling was 3.5Ghz for 1-2t load, 3.4Ghz 3-4t, 3.3Ghz 5-6t, 3.1Ghz 7-8t, 3.0Ghz 9-10t, 2.9Ghz 11-14t, 2.8Ghz 15-16t, 2.7Ghz 17-18t, 2.6Ghz 19-20t, 2.5Ghz 21-22t, 2.4Ghz 23-24t and 2.3Ghz for 25-36t.
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ja wygląda pobór energii elektrycznej?
What is the total power draw under the full load?
I love it
Consider less desktop and more font. Can't see. You are saying what you type but would be nice to see outputs. What is ambient temp of the room? Perhaps, you could draw in some cold air from outside to pipe into front of server? Thanks for sharing
It's about 64F right now. I welcome the heat it generates... lol
I wonder if you can do this with Ramdisk, and a large Ram filled server.
Absolutely can do ram plotting if you want. I don't know that you would see the benefits of it though unless you stepped up to a dual CPU system. The CPU is the bottleneck on this build.
Most SAS array controllers are backwards compatible with SATA drives. But not the other way around.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting it to work lol
Get a Dynatron R25Narrow. Makes a good diff
I grabbed the R31 Narrow. It dropped temps about 8C overall!
Good video !
maybe you need add 2 fan extra for the nvme disks ..
👍
You not gonna see 3.6ghz using so much cores.
This is turbo lable of this cpu
5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/13/13
Its number of baseclock adding to turbo depending on how much cores are used.
13means +1300mhz ( 2300 base + 1300 turno will get you to 3600mhz) and its only on 1 and 2 cores. All core turbo is 2.8ghz.
I got that now. I didn't realized these work that way. The Intel website just says 3.60GHz but I'm not seeing where it mentions number of cores - frustrating to the unsuspecting person.
update and include how much power you are drawing - could be a nice machine for smb and genl purpose - in a 4u you will get better cooling, better performance
Yeah, I just don't think that 1U heatsink has the thermal mass or surface area. Pretty awesome none the less!
There are tons of barebone HP DL380 Gen9 for sale at around 200$, E5V4 is much more power efficient. HP ilo really shines on server.
They do look pretty nice, but I'd probably go with a CSE-826 if I were doing 2U. I've always been a fan of the Supermicro chassis because they fit standard ATX motherboards making it easy to build out something specific to your needs and modify later :)
While the video is great, the problem is - if you don't buy the components with a huge luck on ebay, the whole build will be quite expensive :(
The barebones server is the only component you can't get at the same price right now. The seller has raised the price; however, he's still accepting offers. If you want one, put in an offer and see if he's willing to make a deal. Otherwise, you can set up alerts on eBay to get email notifications when a new result matches.
@@HomeSysAdmin For me, the shipping costs are the main issue...
Wow its crazy how fast gpu plotting is. I can fill a 14tb hard drive in one day compared to your 5.8Tb a day. Using 128gb ram and a 3080 ti
Yeah, crazy how the game has changed! I'm kicking out k33 c8 in under 6 minutes now.
That e5-2699v3 is amazing and the price you got it for is awesome. Very nice hardware configured. 👍
*the only reason i might go with a v4 would be if the OS i plan to use drops support for the older v3 in an upcoming OS release. For example, vSphere v7.0 fully support it but v8.0, which was released just last month in October 2022, doesn't support e5-2600 v3 series anymore. But it does support the e5-2600 v4 series.
Chia plotting :))))
why not get rid of 1u - otherwise not bad build but will use a bunch of power esp since you are going to be running all the time
Sub and comment for the numbers! Stupid Smiley 🤪and Thumb Up 👍too. Good luck with your new channel.
Thanks man!
I was number 1000 ;-)
Nice but not ideal for a plotter.
Why not? It seems to be working great so far.
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