THEY DID IT! The AMD Ryzen SERVER you have been waiting for

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +86

    Update 2023-09-03: ASRock Rack reached out to us to let us know that the 400W 80Plus Gold indeed is correct. The Platinum on the spec page was left over from the preliminary specs, but the Gold is the correct PSU.

    • @Tempo_Gigante
      @Tempo_Gigante Год назад +1

      Serial and VGA - Bleh this just makes me puke(especially for desktop/workstation MBs). I know I know, DataCenter and stuff, but please are we still in 1991?

    • @oggilein1
      @oggilein1 Год назад +15

      Serial and vga are still standard in the enterprise space. What harm does it do being there? Nobody's forcing you to use it, you can shove whatever gpu you want in there and use it's video output, and for data tranfer you can just use universal serial bus (yknow, usb, that serial standard we all still use)
      I really dont understand why people feel the need to complain about compatibility, let alone get it wrong by claiming that we should be ditching serial when usb itself is a type of serial connection

    • @Tempo_Gigante
      @Tempo_Gigante Год назад

      @@oggilein1 I know I work in it, and such I don't use GPU(RGB and GPUs are for kids). Oh and BTW all Data Center carts come with USB mouse and keyboards, and all the monitors are HDMI capable, and I mean ALL of them. What harm? It makes me sick. I can't past the PS/2 when I am shopping for MBs or workstations.

    • @Tempo_Gigante
      @Tempo_Gigante Год назад +2

      @@oggilein1 If I wanted 20-30 years old technology I would go to the museum ... or get USB dongle.

    • @hmurchison8123
      @hmurchison8123 Год назад

      @@Tempo_Gigante You're correct. I'm in favor of sunsetting legacy ports when they have outlived their utility. We don't need to give any incentive to a vendor to push product with 30 year I/O

  • @tommihommi1
    @tommihommi1 Год назад +206

    praise AsrockRack for always delivering these kinds of products.

  • @Owenzzz777
    @Owenzzz777 Год назад +165

    Always love ASRock for making this kind of “funky” half server half consumer products. They’re perfect for home labs!

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw Год назад +7

      or ws and small buisness

    • @javiej
      @javiej Год назад +4

      A homelab without RGB lighting is not a homelab ;)

    • @aarrondias9950
      @aarrondias9950 Год назад +18

      ​@@javiej anything can be a homelab. We don't do gatekeeping here!

    • @magnawavezone
      @magnawavezone Год назад +2

      Sometimes painfully hard to find, but ya if you can fine one (server or mobo) they are pretty great. Have had a amazing luck with my x570 equivalent to this. I mean I’d love just a few more pci lanes but… lol

    • @VioletGiraffe
      @VioletGiraffe Год назад

      overkill for homelab, no?

  • @heselmas
    @heselmas Год назад +25

    We have the previous one with a Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G 128GB ECC ram 1*16TB hdd and 3*2TB ssd drives. +- 30 watt in production. The html5 IPMI is fantastic, installed proxmox in no time without using usb or display.

    • @ingarnt
      @ingarnt Год назад

      Which Memory modules are you using? When I bought the previous version, the 32GB modules on the QVL were not available.

    • @heselmas
      @heselmas Год назад +2

      @@ingarnt Kingston Technology KSM26ED8/32HC 32 GB DDR4 2666 MHz ECC

  • @Sil3nC4
    @Sil3nC4 Год назад +27

    Well, 2U was to loud for my homelab, so 1U is out of the question. But I like the direction ASRock is taking these systems. The motherboard would make for a great homelab server platform. The choice of putting the PCIe 5x on the m.2 is unexpected though. Not sure whether to like or dislike it.

    • @alexmeakins
      @alexmeakins Год назад +9

      The motherboard is available separately, so you can build a quiet 4u server if you fancied it.

    • @mattburke5695
      @mattburke5695 Год назад +5

      I have been frothing at the mouth to add AM5 with ECC to my homelab. I'm going to toss it into a 4u case

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Год назад

      Form factor doesn't necessarily determine fan noise.. Power density does

    • @randominternet5586
      @randominternet5586 Год назад

      I've built a few homelab amd systems - power efficiency is good, so you can basically get them to be quiet. I've got a temp controlled fan for external venting and the spot is now outside of living area so less of an issue now. That said, I really don't like fans blasting away, so I'd love to get the board itself and maybe just stick it in a compact tower case.

  • @realandrewhatfield
    @realandrewhatfield Год назад +11

    Must be a darn good product when the "Key" lessons learned includes what type of plastic thingy does the airflow, and the choice of special characters in the product name! I do hope we get a bit more depth in key lessons learned in the future.

  • @w4f7z
    @w4f7z Год назад +39

    There's another version (the B650D4U) of this board which swaps the 10g nic for another m.2 slot (albeit at pcie gen 4 speeds). I think I would prefer that version as I could bring my own sfp+ based nic.

    • @LampJustin
      @LampJustin Год назад +4

      Great, that config is totally preferred! I would defs put in an >25G card anyway.

    • @psycl0ptic
      @psycl0ptic Год назад

      Can always put ia pcie to dual or quad m.2 nvme adapter in it

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h Год назад

      One 10Gbps is nice to have, but I would be putting 25Gbps broadcom nic anyway. So yes, second m.2 for mirroring would be great.

    • @ds4081
      @ds4081 Год назад

      @@movax20h This should have a 25Gb onboard, we need this to be the new trend.

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад +16

    Asrock Rack! The mad lads that made itx 2011 server boards are at it again

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +8

      Later this month on STH, GENOAD8UD-2T/X550. Not sure if we are going to do a video on that one.

    • @Dreams_Of_Lavender
      @Dreams_Of_Lavender Год назад +1

      The ITX Epyc and 3647 boards too, lol

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 Год назад +3

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo If you do, I will ABSOLUTELY watch it!

  • @WizardNumberNext
    @WizardNumberNext Год назад +2

    Wow
    AMD keeps their tradition from year 2000
    Amd always have supported ECC on consumer grade north bridges (from 2003 in CPU)
    I was using ECC RAM with AMD761 north bridge, AMD Athlon 64, AMD Athlon 64 X2, AMD Phenom II and AMD FX
    I won't mention Opteron

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Год назад +8

    I really liked the days of DDR3 and DDR4, where you could troubleshoot a server using UDIMM or RDIMM because they were pin compatible, but i do understand this is a rare use case as most people are going to have proper spare R/U available to test with

  • @jaffarbh
    @jaffarbh Год назад +2

    Thanks for the power envelope limitation (in co-location centres) hint. It will help a lot of folks out there.

  • @PanduPoluan
    @PanduPoluan Год назад +3

    It's telling how Patrick's most emotional takedown is, in order of intensity: (1) The flimsy airflow guides (which he kinda grudgingly accept), and (2) THE SLASH IN THE NAME OH GOSH THE HORROR 🤣
    Joking aside, this is a VERY interesting product! If they manufacture a tower version I can see myself purchasing one for a home server!

  • @harrythehandyman
    @harrythehandyman Год назад +21

    14:40 Just a thought, ASrock could have provided a 3D model file to allow user to 3D print a fan shroud.

    • @lucasriddervevo
      @lucasriddervevo Год назад +5

      There are CAD files on the site once the product is fully released which will help a little when you print yourself

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h Год назад +1

      Not hard to model in few minutes. Somebody will upload one to thingiverse if needed.

    • @IggyJackson
      @IggyJackson Год назад

      I would guess that most people don't have printers that can handle the material that can handle this kind of heat consistently

    • @lucasriddervevo
      @lucasriddervevo Год назад

      @@IggyJackson ABS plastic is good enough, requires a little more effort compared to PLA but not impossible with a little improvised booth

  • @JMartinni
    @JMartinni Год назад +14

    A 670 chipset would just be two 650 dies at separate locations, wouldn't expect that to require active cooling.

  • @alexmeakins
    @alexmeakins Год назад +7

    I'd love it if you'd do a review/take a look at the Asrock Rack 4U18N-B550/2T, 18 AM4 nodes in 4U chassis. It's bonkers, but in a good way! Would make for an entertaining video.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +3

      Maybe if they make an AM5 version. Usually it is harder for us to get older-gen gear.

    • @magog6852
      @magog6852 Год назад

      25k for a single point of failure?

    • @alexmeakins
      @alexmeakins Год назад

      @@magog6852 25k is peanuts in the space this is intended for. The probability of the backplane and chassis controller failing is pretty low... and could be replaced separately if necessary.

  • @maximilianheinrich2537
    @maximilianheinrich2537 Год назад +3

    Honestly - I'd say that's the kind of low cost server you should go for and deal with redundancy and HA on the software side using K8S. I'm super happy running an AsrockRack X570D4U-2L2T here 24/7 for I think about 2 years now, which I believe is kind of the predecessor. Although a price around 1200 would make me get the board only (maybe around 400?) and search for good, used 1U cases that fit...

  • @magnawavezone
    @magnawavezone Год назад +3

    As always with asrock rack, the fun part will be finding one! ;). (At least in the last 2-3 years)

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 Год назад +1

    I thought there wasn’t gonna be the standard intro at first. You got me!

  • @supernenechi
    @supernenechi Год назад +6

    This would be great for servers that need not cores but clockspeed! Like Minecraft servers and such!

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h Год назад +1

      Or Factorio. Big bases really would love be some X3D CPUs.

  • @jazzochannel
    @jazzochannel Год назад +1

    15:27 "avoid names with slashes, stick with dashes" this may seem like a very arbitrary thing to complain about. my background is in web-dev and I think you're right. this is not something that should matter, but it does. it just shows... you know what... everyone needs to make their own mistakes before they learn anything ;)

  • @Abrasive-Heat
    @Abrasive-Heat Год назад +1

    I would like to see one a little bigger that can have a full size gpu. The cost would go up but would still be a very powerful server for $3000-$5000 built (depending on what crazy gpu you put in it). 16 cores, high end gpu, and fast storage. Downright affordable compared to other solutions.

  • @braincruser
    @braincruser Год назад +4

    The 7950X has 105W and 65W ECO modes.

  • @florianhofmann7553
    @florianhofmann7553 Год назад +3

    These videos are just so well made - very professional indeed. If I was a big tech company, I know whom I would want to hire as head of marketing.

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 Год назад +2

    Love these style servers, nearly no use for them in my 9-5 but love them all the same.

  • @anearthling-y2k
    @anearthling-y2k Год назад +2

    Totally agree with your comment about the name, especially the "/"! 👍

  • @brandonlewis-luong9394
    @brandonlewis-luong9394 Год назад +5

    Hey! Just wanted to let you know that the previous generation had an ASPEED AST2500 built into the motherboard to provide a display output. This was a requirement for the IPMI features.

  • @kchiem
    @kchiem Год назад +1

    Pay attention to the headers sticking up on the pci-e expansion side. You're going to have trouble getting anything but the smallest 1 slot cards to fit in there. They could have easily gone with headers coming out of the side of the board, and that would have allowed it to handle longer 2 slot cards, but nope. At least they actually made the fans hot swap now. I have an older version on the X470 chipset, and those fans are individually wired to the motherboard fan headers and zip tied together, and ASRock claimed those were "hot swap".

  • @CyberBlaed
    @CyberBlaed Год назад +4

    The Board I have wanted since AM5 Announced.... still waiting for the board to reach Australia :(

    • @mistakek
      @mistakek Год назад

      Yes, I was looking at the x570 version, but this seems like it would tick a lot of my boxes

  • @gowinfanless
    @gowinfanless Год назад +1

    I have never thought AMD has such a crazy powerful 1U server,RESPECT!!

  • @ali-mo-dev
    @ali-mo-dev Год назад +1

    When reviewing these kind of systems with 4x4 fans, you have to show the noise level at different loads. This is very important for home lab users ..

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      Home lab folks will buy the motherboard and put it into a quieter enclosure.

  • @zocher1969
    @zocher1969 Год назад

    This thing is so cool, i am in a IT aprenticeship in germany right now and am working on a project where a server like this would be perfect. If only i could already buy one!

  • @__--JY-Moe--__
    @__--JY-Moe--__ Год назад +2

    🍌🐒🦾🥳👍cool stuff bruh!! good luck!

  • @hotstovejer
    @hotstovejer Год назад +2

    I've been looking at ASRock Rack boards for a while. I've been lusting over the Epyc boards for a Truenas build with the 8 core second gen chip. Pcie for days and server stability.

  • @blahorgaslisk7763
    @blahorgaslisk7763 Год назад +1

    Having built several hundred 1U servers using a lot of chassis from different manufacturers I'd say there's something like a 90% chance that chassis was bought from AIC. That's not criticism just an observation. The design details look very familiar though it doesn't exactly match any product from AIC I can remember using. But they do a lot of customization for larger customers.

  • @mat-mat101
    @mat-mat101 Год назад +1

    I literally recreated this server motherboard's three variants in Minecraft awhile ago before stumbling upon this video.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith Год назад +1

    $1.2k is certainly a little odd for what's basically one of Asrock's own budget boards in an off the shelf chassis.

  • @mytekekinexpert6453
    @mytekekinexpert6453 Год назад

    Oh my God! I was waiting for ever for some amazing AMD greatness. Thank you and this is too GREAT so officially subscribed because of the wonderful topics. Thanks again for those blue categories separating the videos on the screen rather have to use RUclips to key frame the timeline! Although which operating systems are we talking? Mac XServe, Microsoft Windows 10 pro with MxGPU or even an ATi Radeon yet AMD Instinct low profile card. Hint: Absolutely Great even with the blue Intelligence in the background neighbors with the EPYC sitting right there.

  • @darcsentor
    @darcsentor Год назад +1

    Got a bunch of rzyen asrockrack servers and they have been awesome of far. Really like the remote management on them and the overall low price.

  • @samo9288
    @samo9288 Год назад +9

    What is the idle power consumption? I know it will vary depending on the CPU used etc, just want to have a rough Idea

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +15

      20-35W. There is probably room for tuning since the fan speed is high. Also, this is a 80Plus Gold pre-production system PSU.

    • @samo9288
      @samo9288 Год назад +5

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Awesome, thanks!

  • @blendpinexus1416
    @blendpinexus1416 Год назад +1

    just cool tbh. finally an oem taking our typical diy home server tradition and making a prebuilt.

  • @camjohnson2004
    @camjohnson2004 Год назад

    Ok first off X670 doesn't require Active cooling for the chipset. Remember X670 is just 2 B650's. The reason ASRock went with just a B650 is that on a 1U server with limited space and limited connectivity, there is no need for a X670. B650 has ALL the same features as X670 but cut down due to the single chip design. The CPU will be providing both the primary (x16) and the secondard (x4) PCIe lanes that board has, and the x1 slot at the bottom will be running off the B650 chipset. Primary M.2 will be provided off the CPU and up to 2 additional M.2's can be provided off the B650. since you only need 4 SATA ports for the 4 hot swap drives B650 has enough SATA ports.
    X670 on a setup like this is totally overkill and all the additional SATA and PCIe lanes that the 2nd chipset provides would not be used, hence a waste of space and money

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 Год назад

    I would love one of these in my homelab for something I only want to run a few services on. Since my home is space constrained, my server rack is in my office. The end result is I can't really use 1U servers because they are way to loud. Other than being 1U this is a homerun.

  • @peterbronez1188
    @peterbronez1188 Год назад +1

    This is really cool! Very similar to what I’m sketching out for a white box build. I would be interested in a 2U or 3U version. I want the extra space for (1) quieter fans, (2) more drives, and (3) bigger graphics card. Agree that redundant NVMe would also be a big plus.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      They also sell the motherboard in this server so one can build a larger/ quieter server. I was talking to the team about doing a build video with this in a more of a NAS-style setup.

  • @fortunes4videos
    @fortunes4videos Год назад +1

    I'm still using a R7-1700 @ 15W cTDP on an AsRock B450 Pro4. 2x8GB DDR4-2666 ECC non-r. Works perfectly with Unraid. ECC working (AsRock seems to be the only firm that activates ECC on consumer boards).

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      Super little box. The 1700 was my favorite of that generation

  • @s3cunit
    @s3cunit Год назад +1

    I've had gobs of these in X470 and X570, great and super, super stable.

  • @spuchoa
    @spuchoa Год назад +1

    This is great! Hope they launch a workstation MoBo this year.

  • @bdhale34
    @bdhale34 Год назад +1

    The IMC on many AMD consumer CPUs have ECC memory support as far back as the Athlon 64 even, it's usually mainboard manufacturers crippling the chip's features.

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 Год назад +1

    I wonder if this supports the “eco mode” feature. The 7950x loses very little by cutting the tdp and runs much cooler.

  • @PatientXero607
    @PatientXero607 Год назад +1

    Ever since they removed the LSI RAID Controller from their rack series, I won't touch them. I still have their Xeon D-1541 based board with LSI SAS and dual 10GBit networking. Makes for a fast file server, but VM CPU power is very much lacking.

  • @CptPatch
    @CptPatch Год назад +2

    Seems like a great little node for low density, low power, and high per-core performance. How loud are the fans? If they're not too loud to be shoved in a broom closet I think this could be a great small business all-in-one solution.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +2

      1U fans are not quiet. These are running pretty hard to keep the CPU at relatively low temps.

    • @randominternet5586
      @randominternet5586 Год назад

      That's my complaint. Go to 2U, keep the depth short, and quiet the fans if you can. Otherwise great, especially if broadcom suported in vmware directly.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Год назад +1

    Imagine the Ryzen 9 Pro 7950 supported 3 dimms per channel.
    MAn that would be sweet, 384GB of 4800C42 uDIMM ECC in a 1U rack

  • @martijnstam6186
    @martijnstam6186 Год назад

    We also have been looking into this server one with Ryzen 5600 for office with Windows Server and Asterisk virtualized and one with the 7900 for development. The only limitation this server has in my opinion is the lack of SAS and more 2.5" bays at the front. Ideally with e.g. ZFS Raid-Z1 you want uneven pairs of disks so 3, 5, etc. So for the office version the system is limited to 3x SATA Raid-Z1 with a max throughput of 1GBs. For a development server you might want something faster with more redundancy like Raid-Z2 with 6 disks for a total throughput of 2GBs.
    So the big question is: Can the front panel be swapped for an 8-12 SATA or SAS 2.5" panel, connected to a SATA or SAS controller in the PCIe x16 slot? 8x SAS is useless with dual 10Gb Ethernet so SATA will do fine.

  • @mikeb.2166
    @mikeb.2166 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the review, I'm just bummed I can't buy it yet as I need to upgrade my 7 year old Asus RX100 home server.

  • @morgank.1249
    @morgank.1249 Год назад +1

    Cool! It’s like a new cobalt raq!

  • @RyTrapp0
    @RyTrapp0 Год назад

    @3:30 - Is 'kydex' what you're looking for? The stuff used for probably most of the knife sheaths(especially custom knives) & pistol holsters.
    May be interesting to see the 7900X(or 7950X for that matter) run in 65w mode vs the 7900 - the X SKUs should 'in theory' be better binned chips than the non-X SKUs, so is there any meaningful performance gain(greater per per watt) from the X chips? Mind you, it's always been said that EPYC gets the quality chip priority(since the enterprise space is where their money is really made) over Ryzen since the adoption of MCM architectures across the board(besides mobile where it still doesn't make sense yet), and we also saw services like Silicon Lottery basically give up on binning Ryzen chips because there's been such minimal variance between them over the last couple generations(shout out to fantastic yields, lol), so maybe it's still pretty minimal? Regardless, I would like to see this comparison with 7000-series.

  • @ThineHolyBacon
    @ThineHolyBacon Год назад

    Always love these Ryzen AsRock Rack boards. Looking forward to what they do with the ITX formfactor this generation :D
    As an aside, looks like the X570D4I-2T is finally back instock on Newegg. Might pick up one before they go out of stock again for 4 months

  • @jllerk
    @jllerk 9 месяцев назад +1

    Epic work from Asrock!

  • @dercooney
    @dercooney Год назад +1

    it's be super cool if the front panel was a double stack of U2 drives, with an option for EDSFF

  • @redtails
    @redtails Год назад +1

    Strange lesson "cost optimized platform". Server farms that are actually cost-optimized will make their own servers and not even bother with rack-mounting them, e.g. hetzner.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      I know ASRock Rack made the motherboards for the Hetzner Ryzen boxes at least a few years ago.

    • @ScepticMatt
      @ScepticMatt Год назад

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo they use a Asus Pro WS 565-ACE (customized to disable OC) now.

  • @jasonmajere2165
    @jasonmajere2165 Год назад +1

    Extreme chipset was split into 2 for high end motherboards specifically so it can be passively cooled. Probably used the B as they didn't want to use PCIe gen 5, to expensive.
    X3D chips run on even less power. 12 and 16 core don't make a lot of sense for normal consumers as the cache is only on one die and that can cause problems with gaming.

  • @dmytrokyrychuk7049
    @dmytrokyrychuk7049 Год назад +1

    I want this in 2u or 3u with quieter fans for homelab. Would make a killer home Proxmox host without performance, storage or connectivity compromises.

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h Год назад

      You can buy motherboard, and out in custom 2u or 3u. I have previous ASRock Rack Ryzen mono in 2u case, with front ports, and love it.

  • @bunnatang2081
    @bunnatang2081 Год назад

    I watched this video last night and last "Have awesome day". and my whole night was awesome day. let me sleep in the morning

  • @sirius4k
    @sirius4k Год назад +2

    I didn't hear a price for the unit (before adding the hardware you need to add yourself). I need two cheap servers for a home hypervisor setup. This might or might not do the trick.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +2

      Not sure what to do. Even have a "Pricing and Cost" chapter marker.

    • @sirius4k
      @sirius4k Год назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Sorry, indeed there is. Seems I neatly tuned out the first 15 seconds of the Pricing and Cost part because I remember you saying things will add up eventually with the final build.. didn't hear the more important part.

  • @locusm
    @locusm Год назад +1

    Pity they removed the 3 internal drive space that the x570 model had. I was looking at it for a Proxmox backup server.

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 Год назад +1

    I would be interesting to use that as a SAS controller for a whole bunch of disk shelves.
    Pity though, that it only has 1 PCIe 4.0 x16 slot, so it isn't like you can put a SAS controller AND a high speed networking card in the system.

  • @AxionSmurf
    @AxionSmurf Год назад +1

    now where's the threadripper part that has 7950x single thread performance and 1TB RAM support

  • @swlak516
    @swlak516 Год назад

    One day I hope to have a need for one of these. Great video as always, thanks!

  • @phgamer4393
    @phgamer4393 Год назад +5

    so a nas+plex server (get transcode with the amd igpu and ecc for zfs) would be nice with this but maybe in the form an ATX or E-ATX mobo in a standard tower with 8 bays at least. quieter fans. would be nice if someone made that.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +10

      I am thinking we should review the motherboard in this to build exactly that.

    • @davidtolley1374
      @davidtolley1374 Год назад +1

      Please do.

    • @MsSgent
      @MsSgent Год назад

      Do the 7k Ryzen IGPs have ECC? In the past only the Pro series IGPs could control ECC ram.

    • @phgamer4393
      @phgamer4393 Год назад +1

      @@MsSgent in this video they were using a 7900 and udimm ecc memory. i think he mentioned there was a video of udimm vs rdim ecc. not sure what it is but im assuming udimm still protects you.

    • @EduardoReyesDPM
      @EduardoReyesDPM Год назад

      yes please

  • @ted_van_loon
    @ted_van_loon Год назад +1

    video:"120W is little energy for a device that will alwayb be on and so should use little power"
    me tuning my server to run under 2w average usage with it all still working fine and fast enough, only to eventually notice the reason I couldn't get lower was due to the psu idling at 2w usage even when there is no load.
    I really hope servers and such soon start using extra chips/microcpu's or cpu's get a extra ultra low energy core so it ca do things like low power under low load without needing to make it auto undervolt and underclock when not under much load and just hope it work. after all for basic things you need almost no processing power, so 1 to 2W is easily doable.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      If you need less processing power, then there are a lot of better options than this one that hits 120W max. For example, the Project TinyMiniMicro nodes out of the box like the one we reviewed today are ~4W at idle for a Core i7 CPU to ~60-65W max. For servers, the ASPEED AST2600 Arm-based BMC uses 4-5W alone, not including the rest of the server making a natural floor ~10W for any modern server with a BMC. Add in the 10Gbase-T ports that also will use several watts when connected, a half watt or so each for the 1GbE ports, and the actual Ryzen part of the system is not using that much at idle.

  • @DrivingWithJake
    @DrivingWithJake Год назад +2

    ASrock has had a lot of issues on these. We've had customers deploy these and the old version with issues. Gigabyte also has some of these as well but are limited for 1x m.2

    • @DrivingWithJake
      @DrivingWithJake Год назад

      Still nice to see more options out there.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      Interesting. Will who does our SSD reviews loves these and has been deploying the X570 versions.

    • @DrivingWithJake
      @DrivingWithJake Год назад

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Yeah we found their last gen had a lot of issues with ram and boot failures. But we are talking with Gigabyte for options as well! It's great to see as the performance on the Ryzens are quite amazing units. As said in the video now that it's finished :) 2 m.2 would be ideal.

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h Год назад

    Sweet. I like it.
    What idle power and fan noise it has?
    I do agree that there should be no slash in a product name.
    I don't mind plastic airducts tho. They work fine.
    Second m.2 would nice.
    I hope the price is right, then definitely going to grab one. I own other ASRock Rack Ryzen platform (in standard fractal chassis), and love it. I also had ASRock workstation and another server based on ASrock (non Rack) in the past, and I like them all. For current workstation I needed to switch from ASRock, to MSI. But next could be ASrock again, as I don't like MSI one.

  • @JKos-cz9lj
    @JKos-cz9lj Год назад +1

    Why not build a Ryzen server with Asus ITX B650E-l in much smaller case, 7950X 64GB ECC, 2.5G plus with pcie card 2x10GB ethernet. It would have 2 x m.2 nvme slots and the whole system takes more than 2x less space. Only thing what you would loose are those HDD 3.5 inch bays. These 1U rack cases are from 1980, no need so large anymore with nvme etc.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      No IPMI on that ASUS board so it is not really usable for a data center. Likewise, rackmounts are used as a common form factor in the data center which is where servers go.

  • @chillidog8726
    @chillidog8726 Год назад +2

    The the B650 Chipset is the same as the Z670 Chipset it's just that the Z670 is two B650s as in they use them in a kind of double bridge config or both are direct to the CPU not sure.
    So heat should not the the reason well it might but unlikely

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Год назад +1

      The 2nd chipset Prom21 is connected via 4 lanes daisy chained from the first, it's a way of maintaining signal integrity and spacing out the controllers with less parts on the board.
      There a great article on Angstronomics about the design and how it's intended to reduce costs.
      One example is how the PCIE5x4 NVME M2 slot is direct to the CPU but allows minimal length traces, while the GPU slot can be lower cost PCIE4x16.
      Unfortunately the motherboard manufacturers have tried to recoup their investment in year 1 so the development costs are front loaded rather than paid off over an expected 3 year life cycle, so the mobos have had massive early adoption taxes.

  • @BogdanKatansky
    @BogdanKatansky Год назад +1

    X670 is 2x B650 chips, so no active cooling for that is required.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Год назад

    5:15 What i wish is that instead of Display Port servers would use USB-C
    I
    CANNOT WAIT
    for the day that that we have USB-C KVMs, that provide an isolated management network, and on higher end KVMs support L3 on the internal switch, and include a 1200w PSU to supply power to low powered devices like laptops and mini desktops
    Do you know how much easier my job of imaging labs of computers and laptops would be if i only needed one cable for KVM, network, and power?

  • @bes12000
    @bes12000 Год назад +1

    Only issue I see with using an AM5 CPU is the limited PCIe lanes, mine runs into an issue and starts trying to reduce the speed on the lanes to 8x or 4x if using too many slots...

  • @christophertstone
    @christophertstone Год назад +2

    RFC 952 (1985): A name .. is a text string up to 24 characters drawn from the alphabet (A-Z), digits (0-9), minus sign (-), and period (.)
    Product names should follow the same convention, especially computer products, from companies that should know better.

  • @marzy2423
    @marzy2423 Год назад

    You didn't say what the speed of the networking is, but I've just noticed typing this, you did say its 10gbe in the chapter name.

  • @kirksteinklauber260
    @kirksteinklauber260 Год назад +1

    Love this kind of SMB products!!

  • @DLAN-5
    @DLAN-5 Год назад

    I'm a fan of the standard D4U's without 10g. Add a mellanox nic and one x8 slot left over for dpu, gpu, etc.

  • @kane587mad
    @kane587mad Год назад +2

    Please annoy ASRock (Rack) till they sell the m2 VGA adapter to customers.

  • @dmynerd78
    @dmynerd78 Год назад +1

    12:54 What software are you using to display all the temps and frequency? That looks really handy!

  • @HappyDiggers
    @HappyDiggers Год назад +1

    7:02 a lot of workloads that are more demanding than Cinebench? Could you name a few? In general I thought Cinebench is great for simulating an all-core workload since it's able to peg all cores at 100% and keep them there thus making the CPU run about as hot as it can get. But if you know a lot of workloads that are far more demanding than I'd love to hear about those.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      Just to give you some sense, we have seen dual socket servers use >300W more running things like GROMACS and LS-Dyna versus Cinebench R23. It is easy to run and it looks nice so Cinebench is very popular.

    • @HappyDiggers
      @HappyDiggers Год назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Ok, but how is GROMACS more demanding? From what I can tell GROMACS will not produce a higher thermal load than Cinebench. At least not on the CPU, which is what we're talking about here with this Asrockrack system.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      I mean it uses AVX-512. Especially on like a Cascade Lake era Xeon it is a huge amount of additional power per CPU. It increases thermal load. Even Cinebench R23-like applications, e.g. the Linux c-ray benchmark, ran on things like the original ThunderX (edit TX1 not TX2) 1P server, but running HPC workloads would cause that system to overheat and shut down.

  • @gabest4
    @gabest4 Год назад

    10:20 There are passive pcie to m2 boards to put into that slot. This should be the default option on any motherboard, as doing it backwards is not easy.

  • @esmannr
    @esmannr Год назад +1

    You're not a huge FAN of the plastic that directs the FAN's airflow?

  • @belgio96
    @belgio96 Год назад +1

    I want this, in 6-10 years

  • @davidg4512
    @davidg4512 Год назад +1

    Huge fan of asrockrack.

  • @Gastell0
    @Gastell0 Год назад

    Usually Blue and Teal USB ports differ, Blue is USB 3.0 (5Gb) and Teal is USB 3.1 (10Gb), but in this case they are same per their site description (USB3.2 Gen1 which is 10Gb).
    Also what are these blue surface mount components seen at 8:19? I've never seen anything like that

  • @stends113
    @stends113 Год назад

    Wait, what Ryzen CPU's support ECC? I thought you had to go with threadripper or something to get that.

  • @eclectricgay
    @eclectricgay Год назад

    I would go with an SN700 this being a server and not a desktop class SSD. Reliability is going to greatly increase with something meant to be run harder vs desktop class drive.

  • @hypercube33
    @hypercube33 Год назад +1

    I'd love to own one of these. Do they have a 2U version with a space for a beefy gpu with AI workloads becoming the rage these days? Also! What is that mini screwdriver set in the background?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      They sell the motherboards so you can build into something else. Screwdrivers in the background are two LTT screwdrivers and the red tipped set is the Wiha 92190

  • @pixtweaks393
    @pixtweaks393 Год назад

    Thank you for the video. Can you make video about the difference of this setup VS EPYC, in terms of what pros and cons for each, as well as for what application you wouldn't recommend Ryzen but is better to use EPYC?

  • @UNKA757
    @UNKA757 Год назад

    The best thing I heard to do with a 7950x is to either run it in 105 watt mode or 7950 Non-x, which already has the power consumption reduced.

  • @thegrimmtv3532
    @thegrimmtv3532 Год назад +1

    Dang! This will be perfect for a low profile setup. I have a question though. Does it also support non ecc memory modules?

  • @lolmao500
    @lolmao500 Год назад

    I wished AMD offered something like back in the day... like dual socket Opterons... Dual socket Zen 4 Threadrippers would be neat.

  • @NavySeal2k
    @NavySeal2k Год назад +3

    You lost me at broadcom

  • @jazzochannel
    @jazzochannel Год назад

    i've had all sort of issues everytime ive bought asrock for my desktop cpus.... from 2014 .. even the latest one x570.. im at a point where im about to say "never again". ...but they do some crazy and fun stuff. i have a 3950x and a 5900x that I don't plan to get rid of, so maybe a system like this is the way forward.

  • @Angel2kinds
    @Angel2kinds Год назад +1

    What a pity there ain't a version with 4 nvme ports instead of the x16 slot and sfp+ over base-T

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

      it supports bifurcation (as nearly all amd boards) so you can fit a 4-nvme dumb card in the x16 slot

    • @Angel2kinds
      @Angel2kinds Год назад

      @@marcogenovesi8570 I'm thinking U.2 drives we usually use in data centers. even if I fit in HBA (which will cost almost as much as the CPU itself) I have no way of connecting them to a backplane (and I doubt supermicro backplanes are compatible with this chassis)

  • @hectororestes2752
    @hectororestes2752 Год назад

    What material are those black plastic shrouds really? Ive always liked to play around with airflow in my systems and would like to order some sheets to have the same material.

  • @CookyMonzta
    @CookyMonzta Год назад

    Interesting. I was always under the impression that a server like that required a CPU that was optimized for server performance, like the Xeons, the Threadrippers and the EPYCs.

    • @PanduPoluan
      @PanduPoluan Год назад +2

      Server-grade CPUs are less about performance and more about manageability and security. Yeah, # of memory channels sometimes figure as well, but the main priority is those two.