FINALLY! CHEAP 10GbE and 2.5GbE Switches for the Homelab or Office

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +179

    Sorry about the transition at 8:37 guys. I edited it. This is why I am usually not allowed to edit our videos.

    • @TheDillio187
      @TheDillio187 Год назад +29

      back to the dungeon you go!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +23

      @@TheDillio187 reporting there soon.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 Год назад +6

      ​@@ServeTheHomeVideo That was a jump scare man

    • @JuriusDoctor
      @JuriusDoctor Год назад +6

      Have you had these inspected by an IT sec professional or a hardware engineer?

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 Год назад +3

      @@JuriusDoctor That's what I wanted to ask as well. LTT may be able to do with all the new hiring they've been doing.

  • @reidprichard
    @reidprichard Год назад +80

    Man enunciated "nicgiga" REAL carefully 💀

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g Год назад +150

    2.5 and 10Gbps passively cooled for around $100 is a big deal even if you don’t want these. It’ll start to drive down the cost of other vendors.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +33

      That is the hope.

    • @ruconscious
      @ruconscious Год назад +14

      Yeah, I wouldn’t buy these. But when prices start to come down I’ll pick up one from a reputable brand. You just never know with these lesser Chinese brands.

    • @luciochen3090
      @luciochen3090 Год назад +2

      Just ordered one on Taobao for 399 RMB which is about 57 USD. Hope it could be even cheaper down the road.

    • @br0k3nilluzion
      @br0k3nilluzion Год назад

      @@ruconscious what brands are you buying from now? what're you working with on the regular? Have a house Im getting ready to wire up.

    • @racerex340
      @racerex340 Год назад +4

      Those "other vendors" are a little slower than these Chinese brands, but I'm betting we'll see companies like TP-Link give us 4-port (5-port) and 8-port (9-port) versions as soon as they start incorporating these seemingly super affordable Realtek RTL8373+RTL8224 solutions. I'm hoping that Realtek follows up with some slightly higher-end versions of the RTL8373+RTL8224 solution with some management, ability to do some VLAN tagging, frame size modification, etc, nothing crazy, add some simple management to give us something that many of us would feel more comfortable using in an office or prosumer scenario. As of right now, I would never connect any of these four brands to any device with any sort of sensitive data until I saw an in-depth security audit ensuring that there aren't backdoors or other hidden gems baked into these switches.

  • @allhandsonberk
    @allhandsonberk Год назад +85

    Can you *please* start testing how the unmanaged switches handle VLAN-tagged frames? It's undefined for unmanaged switches in general, but some will e.g. strip VLAN tags out, others will pass them on, some could drop them, etc. Knowing how these unmanaged switchs react to being placed in a VLAN-aware environment may enable someone to mix them in even if they're unmanaged.

    • @asghan
      @asghan Год назад +5

      Very good point. I also would love to see this being tested.

  • @dmynerd78
    @dmynerd78 Год назад +33

    This is exactly what I've been looking for! So many other switches you guys have been covering have only been 4 or 5 ports. With this you get 8 ports plus the SFP port (which I've also been looking for). Thanks Patrick and the rest of the team for working on this! :D

  • @iamthearmul
    @iamthearmul Год назад +70

    Maybe Realtek has made a new switch chip seeing the low power figures. Good to finally see some progress on 2.5G.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +29

      We show the diagram of the two Realtek chips used here. They were announced in 2022 so pretty new.

    • @YouTubeGlobalAdminstrator
      @YouTubeGlobalAdminstrator Год назад +6

      Absolutely, FINALLY!

    • @jonathanbuzzard1376
      @jonathanbuzzard1376 Год назад +7

      It should be noted that the maximum power you can pull out of an SFP+ cage is only 3W, and typically a DAC cable pulls under 1W. It's why 10GBaseT in the data centre is bonkers crazy.

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 Год назад +1

      @@jonathanbuzzard1376 Yeah, compared to 10GB CAT5 cards which really need a fan to keep them cool. The other thing about SFP+ DAC is super low latency compared to CAT5 for some reason.

    • @jonathanbuzzard1376
      @jonathanbuzzard1376 Год назад +3

      @@wayland7150 That's a really good point, the encoding for twisted pair is going to increase latency over a DAC cable. If our latest proposals are approved I will be getting my first servers with 10GBaseT later this year 😞 Plus point is that they will be plugged into a 1Gbps switch, used only for provisioning and will thereafter be using ConnectX-6 cards at 100Gbps with a mix of SR4 and DAC. Can't avoid the 10GBaseT unfortunately.

  • @maxbls16
    @maxbls16 Год назад +191

    I appreciate not having the rewind intro on this video

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +20

      The intro is still a WIP.

    • @christopherjackson2157
      @christopherjackson2157 Год назад +16

      I didn't wanna say anything but yea kinda agree.

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul Год назад +27

      Better not do any intros, it's refreshing to have the content right away. For other videos, there's stuff like r evanced where you can setup it to skip intros among other things

    • @Murderhoboh
      @Murderhoboh Год назад +6

      Personally I like a short intro

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Год назад +28

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo You don't need cringe zoomer gimmicks. You're an enthusiast/semi-professional hardware review channel, not a gatcha reaction channel selling gambling games and overpriced plastic to children. You already create evergreen content with an easy stream of new content to cover, there's no reason to make your content embarrasing or actively annoying to watch in a professional setting.

  • @qazwsx000xswzaq
    @qazwsx000xswzaq Год назад +57

    Realtek announced a bunch of networking ICs last year at CES 2022. I think we are going to see more products using these solutions.

  • @mamborambo
    @mamborambo Год назад +21

    Glad to see 2.5gbe and 10gbe finally reach consumer prices! This will be the year for major upgrades

  • @lorddemancio
    @lorddemancio Год назад +19

    I just had a conversation yesterday with my rep from Juniper Networks about their lack of 2.5 options on their SOHO and SMB devices. Its really time for vendors to make the transition. Especially when dealing with non - modular units

    • @GooseVan
      @GooseVan Год назад +1

      Yes I would love to get my SRX 300 upgraded to be more than 1Gb uplink as ISPs are offering more options now.

    • @vamwolf
      @vamwolf Год назад

      @@GooseVan sadly most isp in USA are not doing that. Well document about bad isp data on speeds

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 Год назад

      Good on companies like Sodola for bringing these to market. It's about time. Mikrotik have had suitable products for a while but too few ports.

  • @popejohnny5
    @popejohnny5 Год назад +27

    Switching still seems to be the biggest hurdle in multi gig networking. Especially with cable and fiber deployments doing 2.5 to 5Gb on modem/router ports. These with the 10Gb uplink seem to be the best options. Allowing the 2.5Gb WAN connection as well as a few 2.5Gb clients direct on the switch with 10Gb back to your rack machines. Since a lot of Prosumer/older enterprise gear still doesn't behave well with 2.5Gb links. Usually requiring trial and error or finding somebody that has already done with work finding SFP+ to RJ45 transceivers that behave with your gear at 2.5/5Gb.

    • @chess598
      @chess598 Год назад +7

      I don't wanna be "that person" but also I'm hesitant with these switches because of their origin. Was recently having a conversation with a friend who has worked in defense and semiconductor industry and the backdoors built into chinese network boards seems so sketch

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Год назад

      ​@@chess598That's just the current anti-china campaign, don't trust the rumor these guys are under orders to spread. You'd be amazed at the backdoors in US products made in the past 7 years .

    • @thirdenvoqation7735
      @thirdenvoqation7735 Год назад +4

      @@chess598 Pretty much this, and the fact they've had no market certification is another reason they're cheap as dirt. Without those safety standard checks they can get away with this, and depending on country invalidate your premises insurance!

    • @popejohnny5
      @popejohnny5 Год назад +4

      @@chess598 Oh, I completely get that part. I really just meant this type of device as a simple managed or unmanaged switch from a traditionally in market vendor with proper certifications. There is money to be made if somebody like a Ubiquiti, TP-Link, MikroTek etc would make something like this. Even if around 200-$220. I am already out a SFP+ and about $30-35 a transceiver to properly support a 2.5Gb port in my setup. So a proper non POE just client switch at even $250 I'm saving per port.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas Год назад +12

    Got to be careful saying that NICGIGA switch or you'll offend someone unintentionally. Ha ha. Patrick talks wicked fast so that makes it even harder.
    Great video Patrick I'm certainly going to be picked up one of these for my lab. I've been waiting for something like this for a while.

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Год назад +3

      Chinese naming is wild. I have KZ earphones with SS sized eartips.

    • @bobbuilder3748
      @bobbuilder3748 Год назад +3

      Luckily, I don't care if I offend people. I'd buy that brand mainly for the name.

    • @bigjohn2811
      @bigjohn2811 Год назад

      My NICGIGA

  • @andrewharwood7843
    @andrewharwood7843 Год назад +7

    I have been using a Horaco version for about a month. I was genuinely surprised when the blurb about power usage was proven to be true. I use the unit fully populated 6x 2.5, 2x 1gbit and the 10G SFP+ to my workstation. No issues at all so far. The only difference in my implementation is that I do not use the included power brick as this was supplied as US with a UK adapter. I just wish there was a larger version as the TP-Link TL-SH1832 is a massive pain to import.

  • @danman32
    @danman32 Год назад +16

    I'd definitely be interested in managed versions of these. That and PoE versions.

    • @MyersJ2Original
      @MyersJ2Original Год назад

      Me too. I need SMB multichannel for an outdated NAS that has only 2x1GbE on board.

  • @chadramey1140
    @chadramey1140 Год назад +7

    Make sure to put a load on the switch while checking power consumption

  • @bhcompy188
    @bhcompy188 Год назад +4

    Thanks for making 2.5g vids. There's no way I can rewire my house from Cat5e to Cat6, so I appreciate the in depth reviews of something I can actually use

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Год назад

      Luckily I wirted my house directly with cat6a :D

  • @cldpt
    @cldpt Год назад +3

    wow you really blew my speakers there at 8:36! Gotta watch those levels on post

  • @CareyHolzman
    @CareyHolzman Год назад +6

    Enjoying your content Patrick!

  •  Год назад +9

    I see something like this can be a goal for TP-Link and Unify as they would get users into their Eco-system that then also would make them push those into their enterprise business use.

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai Год назад +1

    @12:53 - Horaco = Horako no ch in the word. Great work.

  • @seouljah760
    @seouljah760 Год назад +3

    The NICGIGA and SODOLA are like 70$ now 5 months later. Good Deal!

  • @Murderhoboh
    @Murderhoboh Год назад +12

    Nice, love a host with energy and passion, makes the media more interesting! And nicgiga is a bit hard to say lol. I have one of their 2.5gbe cards in my nas.

    • @vidge1111
      @vidge1111 Год назад +3

      So you have a nicgiga in your nas.. cool

    • @Murderhoboh
      @Murderhoboh Год назад

      Its the only bling in the nas

  • @gjkrisa
    @gjkrisa Год назад +3

    I enjoy fanless for less maintenance. And less noise is kind of a bonus. For me

  • @mmetzger123456
    @mmetzger123456 Год назад +15

    add poe+ they be perfect for new 2.5g access points.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +5

      We covered a few of those in our 2.5GbE Mega-round-up ruclips.net/video/brQUwucJLtg/видео.html

    • @s.i.m.c.a
      @s.i.m.c.a Год назад

      they aren't - it's a dumm uncontrollable switch, while in your network - you wanna route all traffic through vlan to secure your network from wireless hackers, right?

    • @realms4219
      @realms4219 Год назад

      @@s.i.m.c.a You really shouldn't rely on VLANs for security.

  • @scabbynack
    @scabbynack Год назад +5

    I just got a couple of the Sodala ones so I could utilize the 2.5G ethernet on my new systems in my office and have a fiber uplink to my rack. Pretty much perfect for what I needed.

  • @yngndrw.
    @yngndrw. Год назад +6

    I wish the Ubiquiti USW-Enterprise-8-PoE was in this sort of price. The pricing on these four switches is fantastic.

    • @thacommentator
      @thacommentator Год назад +2

      Yeah, even if it was in the $200-$250 range it'd be an easy buy for me, seems like a great thing for Mikrotik to come out with

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner Год назад +14

    Kudos on not botching that Nicgiga name, that could be problematic LOL

  • @LippoM
    @LippoM 10 месяцев назад +1

    I bought the Horaco one for 58€ based on the review. I bought it because of the very low energy consumption and the values from this test matches my own measurements. Thank you !

    • @DasReap
      @DasReap 10 месяцев назад

      I'm currently looking at that exact same switch. How did it work out for you? Everything fine?

  • @metamud8686
    @metamud8686 Год назад +3

    4:14 wardrobe continuity error

  • @kat75ro
    @kat75ro Год назад +4

    I think the best way to say Horaco is to say co as in company, something like horako. Great video!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +2

      Probably - the first take had like 4 different pronunciations so I tried to cut this down to one. It may have been the wrong one.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Год назад

      Sounds like a Fallout 4 company.

  • @SirCrest
    @SirCrest Год назад +4

    I'm going to say that switch name wrong at some point.

  • @di3happyTV
    @di3happyTV Год назад +1

    i've been enjoying your content for quite some time now, also you seem like a really nice person 🙂

  • @a6am3mn0n
    @a6am3mn0n Год назад +48

    I totally misread NICGIGA at first glance.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад +2

      HA! My immature self laughed at the "hard R"-like sound

    • @joeyyung911
      @joeyyung911 Год назад +16

      No one should name a company that starts with Ni and ends with Ga with only one syllable in-between.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 Год назад +4

      But Patrick from STH nailed it like it's any other day 😂

    • @redmatrix
      @redmatrix Год назад +9

      Nicgiga, not Nicgiger! haha

    • @edfx
      @edfx Год назад +4

      This brand will get many tech youtubers cancelled at some point

  • @curtisbme
    @curtisbme Год назад +1

    @13:32 - Another reason you would pay more to buy it from a US distributor is that there is also the fact that if you have an issue, trying to get a replacement/doing a return with Aliexpress is going to be a pain in the ass vs Amazon.

  • @Primant
    @Primant Год назад +2

    Great Video Patrick!

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak Год назад +2

    This is getting there. The price is about right, honestly a max of $100 US would make these sell. But yeah, we need bigger names with (at least on paper) warranty & technical support behind them to sell something like this. I'd drop an extra $20 for a 2nd 10g port.
    Really though I'd love one with a 10Gb RJ-45 port instead of an SFP port.
    That media change is a barrier a lot of casual users will balk at. So many videos talk about 2.5Gb as being commonplace on devices, but with switches that require new cabling, it's still a hard sell. If all you have to do is make sure the cable I plug into the 10Gb port is good enough to handle 10Gb, and not deal with SFP ports or optical at all, *then* it's a drop in replacement.
    That is a *HUGE* factor for a home user or even an enthusiast on a budget. It's something I think a lot of folks that pretty much went to stuff with SFP ports just gave up on and accepted as the price for more speed. It changes what you consider 'affordable' and moves it squarely into "it's a little expensive" given you have to buy more stuff to get the most out of it.
    All RJ-45 gets them in the game immediately and then if they catch that speed itch, 10Gb costs and SFP seem less pricey.

    • @MadLadsAnonymous
      @MadLadsAnonymous Год назад

      Ok, rookie question:
      Do you foresee a switch with 10Gb RJ-45 and PoE for a reasonable price?

    • @PsychoStreak
      @PsychoStreak Год назад

      @@MadLadsAnonymous Not anytime soon. Wireless access points will drive that, and I don't think 10Gb links to WAP's is that common. As faster WiFi actually propagates to mass adoption (a/b/g/n still far outnumbers everything else out there) then it'll become necessary, but right now. 2.5Gb on WAPs seems like where things have settled.

  • @SuedeifelIT
    @SuedeifelIT Год назад +2

    blue LTT-driver?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      Creator Edition that Linus and Jake sent me (I have been on LTT a few times.)

  • @wcg66
    @wcg66 Год назад +2

    I have a couple of Nicgiga PCIe NICs. Certainly a brand name that causes a double take.

  • @MelroyvandenBerg
    @MelroyvandenBerg Год назад +3

    These are indeed awesome..! Assuming they are indeed stable.. I mean network stability is key! A switch should just work 24/7.

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Год назад +1

      Personally I would like to have 2x(or more) 5 gb/s, 1x atleast 10gb/s and the remaining 2.5gb/s.

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 Год назад +1

    Horacio has similar switches as managed.
    But buyer reviews weren't convincing because of the interface. Please test one of these.

  • @fu1r4
    @fu1r4 Год назад +1

    9:39 Does that power meter calculate the power factor too? If not you don't get the correct values on a switching power supply.

  • @ErrorInvalidName
    @ErrorInvalidName Год назад +4

    My Nicgiga!

  • @JustAGuy85
    @JustAGuy85 Год назад +1

    You're the first person I've seen put a load on the switches and show the throughput they can do.
    That's what I want to see.

  • @piotrprs572
    @piotrprs572 Год назад +2

    With cables 5e you can easly do 10Gbit connection for few meters.

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 Год назад +2

      I'm doing 10Gb on a Cat5e cable right now. The cable is 50ft+. Works great. The cable was installed 20 years ago.

  • @DementiaAcerbus
    @DementiaAcerbus Год назад +3

    I’ve got a little 8 port unmanaged Mokerlink PoE switch that has been fantastic for what it is. Think it was $35-$45 a couple years ago when I grabbed it.

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos Год назад +2

    Wicked content Patrick, I thinks i might have to grab one !

  • @pauliusruginis5264
    @pauliusruginis5264 Год назад +1

    As a guy who works for a router/switch manufacturer in Europe, all I can say about why the known brands don't have the cheapo switches is:
    A: Certifications are a bitch and expensive
    B: Any quality control, where you test more then, hey, the power LED turn on, makes it more expensive by a lot
    C: Things are built from more quality PCB components so the things last
    D: Support does not come for free and man do enterprise and big wig companies love that

  • @beauslim
    @beauslim Год назад +3

    That one brand name might get you some very pointed questions from HR.

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 Год назад

    I have two Horaco 5-port switches in use and I am satisfied. One is downstairs and one is upstairs. The 5 port switches have 4 ports on an IC under the heat sink, the 5th port has its own IC and there is also the SFP+ port.
    I also tried two fiber SFPs to connect both switches. This works perfectly with 10GBit.
    For testing, I also got an SFP to 2.5GBit LAN module that works perfectly.
    The only downside was that the power adapters do not come with European plugs but with US plugs. An adapter is required. The power adapters also work with 240 Volts 50 Hz.
    With the small price difference, the 8 port only costs 10 to 20 $€£ more than the 5 port. Both also have the SFP+ port.

  • @Zatexev
    @Zatexev Год назад +2

    Can you do a cheap managed 2.5?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      We did a few in our Ultimate Guide a few weeks ago: ruclips.net/video/brQUwucJLtg/видео.html
      And are keeping an index of all the 2.5GbE switches that we are doing here: www.servethehome.com/the-ultimate-cheap-2-5gbe-switch-mega-round-up-qnap-netgear-hasivo-mokerlink-trendnet-zyxel-tp-link/

  • @TRLTheRandomLab
    @TRLTheRandomLab Год назад +3

    Patrick's career was flashing before his eyes as he said "Nicgiga"

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад

      Confused. I think it is a NIC (network interface card) with GIGA (gigabyte/ gigabit) or something like that

    • @ischmidt
      @ischmidt Год назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo That’s likely the intent of whoever named it in Shenzhen. You’d think if they were ponying up the extra cash for a 4 color box that they’d check if the brand name was a little borderline.

  • @alexfischer9493
    @alexfischer9493 11 месяцев назад +1

    Picked two of the mokerlink units for 75 dollars each! I’m excited to use the SFP+ port for the link between the two as well

  • @User78347
    @User78347 Год назад +2

    Nicgiga treading a fine line with that naming

  • @slappymcphee
    @slappymcphee Год назад +2

    This excites me more than it should!

  • @nickbissel62
    @nickbissel62 Год назад +2

    Ok you convinced me to go buy this immediately after watching this video...Now I just have to buy some machines that actually have 2.5gb NIC's, and a new core switch that has SPF+ for the uplink...My credit card company would like to thank you for your contribution to my escalating debt. lol

  • @woodmanvictory
    @woodmanvictory Год назад +6

    Great video, I would love to change to 2.5GbE in my network but imo it is still to expesnive. Only complaint about he video is the transition music was obnoxiously loud imo.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +6

      My fault on that. I did some editing... and that is why they do not let me do editing.

    • @RobertoCarlos-tn1iq
      @RobertoCarlos-tn1iq Год назад +1

      guy, they're less than $150 dollars. you're not buying a $1000 cisco switch.

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Год назад

      What I only hear Tinnitus now.. (I'm not joking)

    • @d3nso_
      @d3nso_ Год назад +1

      @@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq Yes tey do not cost thousands of dollars but are still expensive. Compared to a gigabit switch they cost 5-6x more.

  • @ion337
    @ion337 Год назад +2

    It's great that this category of switches is getting popular, though nothing perfectly meets my needs cheaply. Fanless metal 6-8 port 2.5G and 2 port 10G with both baseT and SFP+ would be perfect. Netgear GS110MX looks decent for 2x10G, but only 1G on other ports.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      Fanless with a lot of 10Gbase-T is hard due to the PHYs. We are finishing recording a video this weekend on the $245 8x 10Gbase-T Hasivo managed switch shown in the latest Perfect 1L homelab video. Expact that one soon.

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 Год назад +4

    I am waiting for TP-Link to have something like this in their Omada line. I have a managed 1-gig poe switch. I just want to add a couple of 2.5 or 10-gig from my server and one to my workstation.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +5

      We have something like what you mention coming. The team has been working on the review

    • @pkt1213
      @pkt1213 Год назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo GREAT!

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Год назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I can't sleep now...!

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul Год назад

      And... where is it?

  • @chumbawumba1959
    @chumbawumba1959 Год назад +3

    These reviews on 2.5/10 switches are so valuable. Can you offer a companion vid series on USB4/TB 2.5/10 adapters/dongles. Many of us have recently purchased laptops and desktops that only have 1gb nics, but have USB4/TB high speed ports. As example, I have a Mac Studio which has 10gb nic on-board, but everything else I own (including 14in M1 MBPro) only has 1gb nic. I would love to upgrade my core switch to 2.5/10, but need strategy for other devices to take advantage of. THANK YOU!

  • @nirsommer
    @nirsommer Год назад +2

    I went with an unmanaged 2.5 tplink and a cheap tplink 1gb "smart" poe for now
    Tplink has a cool 10/5/2.5/1/... Switch but it's non poe and maybe even unmanaged.
    The switches that are also managed and poe from reputable brands are ridiculously expensive.
    Will upgrade in a few years when it makes sense.

  • @chriscox2045
    @chriscox2045 Год назад +6

    If it had 2 sfp+ ports it might have more uses.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +2

      We covered a few other options in our Ultimate 2.5GbE switch guide in March

    • @returnedinformation1040
      @returnedinformation1040 Год назад

      I wouldn't use switches like this for pass-through, they seem great as endpoint switches.

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 Год назад +1

      @@returnedinformation1040 What if your endpoint has a 10G device? 10G uplink, then no 10G for the 10G device.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

      @@estusflask982 if your endpoint has 10G you don't use a 10G switch, the point is to make sure the uplink has enough bandwith to carry all ports without throttling

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 Год назад

      @@marcogenovesi8570 I'm talking about an endpoint with only one cable.

  • @kennethlai5186
    @kennethlai5186 Год назад +2

    It sells for ¥399 in China, about $54.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +3

      That is part of my point on why these are so expensive elsewhere

  • @lavipilled
    @lavipilled Год назад +2

    for something like that fanless is great, i might actually buy one

  • @ToddSchuldt-ng6xd
    @ToddSchuldt-ng6xd Год назад +3

    No cable retention? No problem. Go to your local hardware store, buy a small pack of R-Type Cable Clamps in 1/8" and double duty the ground screw as the mount point for the clamp.

    • @Max24871
      @Max24871 2 месяца назад

      Honestly, where are you guys putting these to make that an actual concern? I'd expect most switches sold just sit on, in, or behind a shelf somewhere

    • @ToddSchuldt-ng6xd
      @ToddSchuldt-ng6xd 2 месяца назад

      @@Max24871 Until you have your spouse decide to dust that shelf and picks it up to dust it and under it and snags the cable :)

  • @demonmaestro
    @demonmaestro Год назад +7

    I wish Ubiquiti would create a switch like this. Even if not managed.

    • @Andrew_M_Ward
      @Andrew_M_Ward Год назад +2

      They'd have to add their packet-sniffing chips which slow down the overall performance... But I'm sure they will soon enough
      BTW: You should never install Ubiquiti in somebody else's home... unless you convince them to sign the ULA - the Ubiquiti LAN side snooping is not what hi-value clients want in their home networks

    • @SuperSpecies
      @SuperSpecies 8 месяцев назад

      @@Andrew_M_Ward what does it sniff for?

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  • @cr-pol
    @cr-pol Год назад

    I went to buy the Sodola from the previous video. While shopping I saw the 8+1SFp version and figured since the Sodola 6 got such raves from ServTheHome I would risk it and go with the 8+1SFp. Thus far (3 days) I have been quite happy with it. Having the SFp to talk at 10GB with our MikroTik and open up a regular port has been a real benefit.

  • @plonk420
    @plonk420 Год назад +4

    regarding the brand names, i'm guessing it's along the lines of LTT's video on why Amazon has such weird brand names (i should know; i work there 😩... soooo many of those weird freakin' brand names. i feel they name by wheel of fortune spins but for letters)

  • @rockking1379
    @rockking1379 Год назад +3

    I would be happy to see a port config like this from mikrotik. Basically just an update to the CSS610 to use 2.5G instead of 1G.

  • @DreamPrashant
    @DreamPrashant 11 месяцев назад

    Total newbie here. I want to get this product for a NAS setup, will I also need to get a router to go along with it?

  • @PeterPavlik72
    @PeterPavlik72 Год назад +2

    Would like to see some 5-ports version with the same power efficiency of the new Realtek chips.

  • @davidfarning8246
    @davidfarning8246 Год назад

    Thanks for highlighting these devices. I'll admit, I am a unifi guy for switches and APs. The single pane of glass made my life much easier as I learned to administer my own home / home office. I hope this new batch of inexpensive 2.5 and 10GBE switches will light a fire under the competition.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад +1

      oh with the lack of certifications they are going to light on fire allright, not necessarily under the competition

    • @cmoullasnet
      @cmoullasnet Год назад

      @@marcogenovesi8570 lol well… Probabaly not, but probably really isn’t good enough in this case 😅

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 Год назад

      Exactly, Unifi has nothing like these switches.

  • @johndododoe1411
    @johndododoe1411 Год назад +3

    I'm guessing that Realtek chip is mostly for use in home routers that traditionally contain a similar 1Gbps or 100Mbps chip connected to the embedded CPU. If so, I suspect a small CPU could turn it into a managed switch configured entirely over standard SNMP with IPv6 automatic addressing.

  • @alextanchez6705
    @alextanchez6705 Год назад +4

    Thanks for the review Patrick! I agree, I am waiting for the major switch vendors like Netgear, Qnap, etc to make something like this. I run a Netgear GS series 16 port gigabit and would upgrade immediately if they released 2.5Gbe gear tech..

  • @exodus3155
    @exodus3155 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video Patrick, Thank you and my mokerlink and Mikrotik switches work great for my labs.

  • @thatLion01
    @thatLion01 Год назад +2

    Thank you for amazing review

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      Thank you for supporting STH so we can do this kind of review!

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat Год назад +2

    You can probably use a more efficient GaN PSU as well.

  • @jconradh
    @jconradh Год назад +1

    Thank you for all the information!

  • @michaelmerrell8540
    @michaelmerrell8540 Год назад +5

    I've been looking for a small managed switch in this category. The only inexpensive thing I've seen is the Trendnet TEG-3102WS. QNAP has some that are half-rack width, but they start at $450 for 8 ports. All I want is a reasonably managed 16 port 2.5, 2 x SFP+ switch in that

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul Год назад

      And preferably fanless )

    • @michaelmerrell8540
      @michaelmerrell8540 Год назад

      @@BoraHorzaGobuchul I can hear the fans on the switch for my house network from here. Fanless would indeed be nice.

  • @mattburke5695
    @mattburke5695 Год назад +2

    I need a basic managed switch with a few mgig ports and some gig ports with a 10g uplink. First vendor to make that gets my money lol

    • @verglor
      @verglor Год назад +1

      What about ZYXEL XGS1210-12 or XGS1250-12 ?

  • @tinmanDMC
    @tinmanDMC Год назад +2

    I would assume that "Horaco" is pronounced with a soft "H" and would be said "Aura Co"

  • @MrAphexcloud
    @MrAphexcloud Год назад +2

    this guy rocking a blue top LTT screwdriver... i want!

  • @themadtechie
    @themadtechie Год назад +3

    on the power supplies - that CE marking spacing is wrong... that's not the European safety mark its often referred to as the Chinese Export mark. its often used to try and trick the inspectors and consumers it seems...

  • @MichaelZimmermann
    @MichaelZimmermann Год назад +2

    that's pretty cool. Are there any low-power managed 2.5G switches? I'm currently using mikrotik RB260GSP and I love them for having a powerful management interface and passive POE(because it can be passed through). Even ignoring price I can't find anything that fits those requirements right now.

  • @robprentiss420
    @robprentiss420 Год назад +2

    I just want a compact 16 port 2.5G switch.
    And yes! Why almost nothing from Netgear?

  • @darrenreagan1135
    @darrenreagan1135 Год назад +2

    have to ask, do these auto negotiate backwards. I've ran across a few that couldn't/wouldn't?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Год назад +1

      We try all of these linking at 1G as well, but the standard we are using is 2.5GbE since that is the speed we are focused on.

  • @_droid
    @_droid Год назад +2

    Pretty good. I couldn't find anything like this when I was looking before. I like HP networking gear but I don't know if they even make "prosumer" stuff any more. Right now I'm using a bunch of cheap RTL 4-port 2.5Gb PCIe cards. It requires a beefy server class machine so although the cards are cheap, the server is not.

  • @Zarathustra-H-
    @Zarathustra-H- Год назад +2

    As long as you don't mind SFP+ (which you shouldn't) cheap 10GBe switches have been around for years. Just look at MikroTik's lineup

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 Год назад

      SFP+ is good for everything under your desk but CAT6 cable is easier to wire through your building.

    • @reasonsreasonably
      @reasonsreasonably Год назад

      Except you need to have something that will interface with the SFP+ which will add quite a bit to the pricing. If you already have the right connectors, you are correct, but if you don't, then your connectors could be more expensive than your actual switch once you add up the costs. Right?

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 Год назад

      @@reasonsreasonably just stick with SFP+ throughout. If you only have a simple network you can use two port cards in bridge mode and no switch. The copper wires can be a few metres long and only £15. The main reason I use SFP+ is to have a separate PC and server, which are on the same desk, actually two servers and one PC daisy chained together. It works fine and dirt cheap. They also have 1GBe for longer runs, WiFi and Internet access.

  • @Gengh13
    @Gengh13 Год назад +3

    Nice, finally we have them at decent prices.

  • @kraleemil
    @kraleemil Год назад +1

    Whats the best 2.5GbE manged switch? Maybe even with SFP

  • @KentBunn
    @KentBunn Год назад

    What I want is a switch with 4x 2.5, and 1x 10gSFP+ uplink that runs UI. That would be the perfect desktop switch for my home/office desk.

  •  Год назад +2

    Can the SFP+ do 2.5G as well or only 10&1G?

    • @MarceloSilva-yh2ni
      @MarceloSilva-yh2ni 9 месяцев назад

      Port sfp is auto negociate is 2.5 Gbps ? Or negociate only 1 Gbps and 10 Gbps?

    •  9 месяцев назад

      @@MarceloSilva-yh2ni mine works fine with 2.5G modules.

  • @erickong9
    @erickong9 Год назад +2

    Got mine ~$60 directly from china a week ago

  • @CarlosKTCosta
    @CarlosKTCosta Год назад

    Thanks for this video, I was looking to get three 2.5 switches so that all my local network is 2.5 but the prices have been putting me off. Gonna look at these options for sure

  • @AraCarrano
    @AraCarrano Год назад +2

    Segment transition music is booming

  • @jannikmeissner
    @jannikmeissner Год назад +3

    I would guess it is HoraCo as in Hora, latin: hour and Co (Company) so with a hard c… BUT I could also be totally wrong.
    Anyways, I hope there will soon be some cool 10Gbit Base-T switches that are equally as cheap

  • @bmbiz
    @bmbiz Год назад +4

    I have no idea but I'd guess Horaco is pronounced just like it's spelled, i.e. with a hard _C_ like the second syllable of Cisco or Sysco. Probably short for _corp_ or _company._ Regardless, it's a Hora-ble name.

  • @sirnh
    @sirnh Год назад

    I just upgraded my whole house to 2.5GbE with a few of the Nicgiga a couple of weeks ago, even before seeing this video. It's been running great! I do have a problem getting a M1 Mac Studio Ultra to connect reliably, though.

  • @john_in_phoenix
    @john_in_phoenix Год назад +1

    FYI, thanks for the content. I just purchased two of the Nicgiga switches using your links (just upgraded some Moca 2.5 links and my NAS). Very much appreciated and useful content. Still looking for a good wifi 6e router that supports at least 2.5 on both uplink and LAN.

  • @geepeezee5030
    @geepeezee5030 Год назад +1

    Why not provide actual throughput numbers on the charts?
    Are these able to saturate 2.5gb?
    Running iperf3 between 2 2.5gb ports directly (no switch inline) I see ~280 MB/s sustained throughput - ~2250 gbps

  • @IsoMacintosh
    @IsoMacintosh Год назад +1

    About to buy a nicgiga switch, hopefully it works well.
    (not the one in this video but one with four 2.5 gig POE ports and two 10 gig SFP+ ports, that one is small enough to fit a 10 inch rack i'm planning on)