Issue has been raised regarding my discussion of gender/physical sex characteristics and their effect on athletic performance, so I'd like to address a few things quickly: Trans women are women and trans men are men. My wording, "biologically male/female" has been used by transphobes as a bad faith misrepresentation of science analyzing the human body in attempts to bar trans people from competing in athletics, and for that I do apologize. It was not a good choice of words. I do not mean to associate myself with that rhetoric. My research indicates that a trans woman runner's times quickly slow to a level consistent with cis women of a similar level of training a short time into her transition, and so when I say biologically female, trans people are totally included in that umbrella. Now, to be clear, it is absolutely correct to consider a trans woman a woman even pre-transition and to allow her that role in society regardless of how many estrogen pills she's taken. Even this isn't any kind of urgent problem in the athletic world; it hasn't led to a bunch of pre-transition trans women gaining massive athletic advantages like angry people on the internet have apparently chosen to believe without basis in a rational consideration of the evidence. There are other biological advantages in sports that we don't control for, like that some people have genes passed down from Olympic athletes and others don't, so what variance may come from being trans should hardly be much of a priority in terms of regulation. If anyone does still take issue with what I've said or the way I've presented it, I'm still happy to hear it out. This game's community is very diverse, and I want it made as clear as possible that everyone who seeks to engage with the game safely and in good faith is welcome here.
I play this game for the purpose of playing this game. Not for anything related to trans, gender, religion, race, age, politics or anything else. Can we please keep the content strictly splatoon related? Gem, I've been a Patreon supporter since the beginning and will gladly do so as long as you keep squid school splatoon content. I've been playing since splatoon 1 launched and hold your commentary and skills in a very high regard. Please ignore people that will always be upset no matter what you do. It's a lot easier said than done, but they won't ever be satiated even with an apology.
I think the main reason why this happens is because there is already a huge stereotype in the gaming community as a whole about Japanese players being extremely cracked at competitive games, so I feel like this stereotype just naturally extended into splatoon.
there are some games where the reverse happens, in cs:go the japanese scene is very dead and the asia/oceania region is tier 3 at best while the europeans dominate major tournaments and third party matchmaking websites really interesting seeing videos like this with an outside perspective
It doesn't help most people here are lost when it comes to Japanese text and already feel confused seeing it pop up in a menu since Splat is geared towards JP support as a japanese game
Once in a blue moon, when I get a lobby with ALL Japanese players and I’m playing really well, I think to myself: “What if I’M the scary player with the foreign name?” >:3c
I've been in calls playing matches with casual Japanese players, and actually had that happen. We once teamed up together with me hosting on the European server, and the first comment one of them made when they saw the opponent's names was: "On no, they're from overseas! Watch out, they're probably strong!"
Thank you for making the lag/latency aspect one of the first things you mentioned. I've always wondered how much of this "skill gap" boiled down to Japanese teams just...being physically closer to each other than, say, an American lobby having teammates on different coasts and the game choosing to have the wifi of someone living in the rural midwest in between them to host. EDIT: Also, I wonder how much of this "JP players are unbeatable" mindset is just self-fulfilling prophecy and psyching yourself out? I feel like some people see an all-Japanese enemy team and just immediately stop trying which, yeah, of course you're gonna bomb the match then.
I played Splatoon 1 at a time of day that had me usually being the only American player in an otherwise Japanese lobby, and the only difference I really noticed when I played when my timezone was awake was that the advanced strategies tended to be slightly different. Neither was worse, they just had slightly different meta. I only ever played solo queue though, so I can't say anything about competitive team play other than that you could TELL when a team was communicating beyond the D-pad. I will say that region-locked Splatfests were actually easier for me than Only-American-In-A-Japanese-Lobby matches, but I maintain that the reason was because I was That Charger Main and it was just a little bit easier for me to get the shots I wanted simply because I wasn't fighting lag as bad as I was used to, haha!
@@CRT.vI’ve had this theory for a while. I mean Nintendo seemed to have no problem giving Japan exclusive gear what would stop them from allowing JP players to have an actual voice chat. Japanese players play too well to NOT be verbally communicating with each other
@@unl3ash3d95 you can tell when a team is communicating with each other. Their actions become more coordinated. It isn't only japanese players that talk to each other.
@@unl3ash3d95 I can tell you as someone who plays Splatoon 3 in Japan with Japanese coworkers at S+ 30+ (minus me, haha funny salmon run) that there is no such mystery unfair advantage tool that Japanese players use to win.
As someone who is bilingual and hangs out in both Japanese and English gaming communities online, I've noticed that this phenomenon not only exists across multiple different games, but also applies to some extent in the reverse. I remember once being in a call with a group of Japanese friends who were all mostly new to the game, and we decided to team up together and play for fun with me hosting on the European server, and when they saw all the English names on screen they commented something along the lines of: "Oh wow foreign players! They're probably really strong!" I think part of it is a fear of the unknown. If you're against a player whose name you can't even read, it's hard to really know what to expect from them, and I suspect that this probably makes some people a little anxious. Even in games where official competitive tournaments have far more western players at the top level like Pokémon, I still encounter a lot of people who talk about Japanese players like they're some kind of elite, and that winning matches against Japanese players is some kind of achievement.
Yeah, no. Not the fear of the unknown, trust me. Felipe and Gustav aren't making people have nightmares about Splatoon. It's clearly and definitively the Japanese players who are like this. I couldn't give less of a flying fuck what language a player's name's in. Is he pushing my shit in or not, via an online lobby? Everyone's unknown online. The fuck does the name Frank or Toshiro make any difference to me? I have fears of playing against Toshiro and his friends because they're fucken demons in the game, and Frank and his friends are at least displaying normal human levels of gameplay.
Yesss I have the same mindset, but I also really enjoy being paired with people because I think WOW I AM PLAYING WOTH PEOPLE across THE WORLD!!! And that’s so fucking cool
@@aria5981 i feel like the level of technology we have is always under-praised. like, we can, with little delay, see the exact inputs and their actions someone on the direct opposite of the world is doing. it's the norm now, sure, but that doesn't mean it isnt still amazing it's even possible
SAME but now splatoon 3 i just stopped that thing for some reason, maybe because i see so many more japanese players in my games due to so many sales in japan
as someone who watches japanese streamers, there are a handful who are really really good at splatoon, but there are more who are beginners that just started the game through splatoon 3. and if youre worried about those really strong japanese players, they already reached S+50 in the 1st week of the game's release so i doubt most of us will have to worry about them.
@@TheFrantastic Yeah, I got matched with S+ in B lol. I think it uses your MMR no matter what your actual rank is to find people so the letter doesn't matter that much.
@@TheFrantastic That's just means you or the S player are on the wrong rank. Once next season hits, those who can't keep up at S will be going back in rank.
Japanese player here, Japanese lobbies arent that different to english ones ( at least in splatoon 2). I think we just dont play similarly to how western players play and so people struggles to deal with japanese players. Ive been playing on the western server since I moved away from japan and I think some times my way of playing is quite different
@@MrCherrycoke18 I watch a couple of Japanese splatoon players (not super competitive types) and what I've noticed is that they tend to be more willing to retreat and regroup rather than take bad fights, but sometimes that caution causes them to lose points, or teammates, or the match itself. On the other hand the self-preservation can work out and win them matches.
@@AravisXor me as a slayer I learned that against Japanese players I have to shark a lot more and be a lot more patient than i am in western lobbies. Also since they are more willing to retreat and not take bad fights I’ve learned to make it hard for them to determine whether it’s a bad fight or not
I think the funniest thing about this is that this started as a meme in Splatoon 1. It was a joke from us veterans, at the time new. It was basically the "McDonalds Ice Cream Machine" joke for Splatoon. Sure, there was a slight chance the Japanese players were ahead, but the meme more highlighted that, the lag and a funny stereotype together.
This is so true. The amount of times I’ve played with viewers and they immediately start complaining or blame losing solely on the fact they see Japanese names is ridiculous. They defeat themselves before the battle even begins. They are just normal people. You can beat them like everyone else.
@@S7phirothGaming You're just contradicting what the title says to not do. You CAN beat them. It's your mentality that makes beating them impossible to do.
My biggest issue is they often have a different playing style when compared to western players so I have a harder time predicting what they're going to do, especially when they're on my team.
@@TroyVan6654 Depends. Since I'm physically closer to JP/KR/TW, I get players from JP a LOT. And while there are a lot of very aggressive Japanese players (heaven forbid I use a charger or a splatling), a fair amount of them also play a bit safer. Picking fights more often, not charging in unless they see an opportunity to, so forth and so on. You either get the ones that'll go up in your face and win, or the ones that are carefully finding their way to clear the objective (and win).
Very true. My biggest issue playing Japanese players these days is that the matches I play with them tend to be very laggy and deaths tend to come far after I splatted them. I mostly just joke fear when I wind up in a lobby with Japanese players these days because my very first experiences in Splatoon 1 involved me as a small lvl 4 squid in lobbies filled with lvl 50 Japanese players and I was always curbstomped and spawncamped lol. So I learned very early to respect Japanese players lol. As I’ve gotten better at the game myself I don’t care as much that they are Japanese. Edit: My memory changed the levels.
@@lol-ih1tl no way really? Lol. My memory legit changed the levels in my head because I could’ve swore I remembered seeing the number 99 when I was playing Splatoon 1 lol. Ooop. Oh well the effect is still the same
i love getting put into japanese lobbies. they’re not unbeatable, but a large majority of the time (at least near the end of splatoon 2) they feel at least good, which is great practice
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT THANK YOU SO MUCH. i’ve been playing with “unbeatable japanese players” literally since 2015, they’re no different from any other players, they just have a bigger scene and that’s it. thank you so much for this
Honestly, this is a remnant of early 2000s meme culture where there was always that cracked player who had a Japanese name. I think this whole ordeal is just people taking what was originally a joke observation too seriously.
It's been present for many years, essentially since the birth of widespread internet based gaming. Starting largely in part as a result of stereotypes and a lack of understanding regarding foreign cultures. This isn't just a problem with how people treat and think about Japanese players, it largely applies to foreign players as a whole, even with European players.
I always just joke about this mentality when I’m playing with my friends or even alone. A name doesn’t mean anything until they can prove they’re better than me. If someone can outplay me, ggs, I either made a mistake or just am not as skilled. Like Gem said, don’t let the mentality psych you out.
The part about large schools having an advantage is so true. When I was in high school, I played both JV and Varsity soccer as a Freshman due to lack of players. The top school in the soccer division has trials and cuts as they have too many players to pool from. In fact, it’s even unfair to play against them. One game we had, they regularly swap out the whole team with the bench with fresh players. Meanwhile my team only can sub out one player at a time. It bewildered me how that is not considered an unfair advantage.
THANK YOU! Im a japanese person myself (who got raised in america) and when i tell people im japanese they seem to play worst when i fight them in 1v1s for fun. Its so interesting how this stereotype works but.. Some people need to realize that bad japanese players can exist too. I got triple X in splatoon 2 with 2,000 hours played, same with a full american person, but just because im japanese doesnt mean im better. Heck that american person prolly better then me!
What I have to tell a lot of my viewers and my friends when we play sploon (especially those at lower levels/ranks) is that a B rank Japanese player is still just a B rank player. We all play the game differently, and we play it for different reasons. Don’t assume because of someone’s name or where they come from that they’re tryharding. We are all still playing this game because we enjoy it no matter who you are.
Got adopted into a group of Japanese players during Splatfest and had a total blast. We ended up playing together over 2 days even though my rank is visibly way lower. Had a really good time thanks to their warm welcome.
The only reason they would be unplayable/unbeatable is latency and connection issues from p2p. Also good thing to note is a lot of Western players use Japanese names now that you use a unique username compared to your Switch profile. Estimate, but 40% of my competition has Japanese usernames but less than 20% of my “Users I’ve played with” section has Japanese profiles.
You could always have a Japanese name on your Switch profile. I personally had mine in Katakana while playing Splatoon 2 for years just for a joke from my friends being terrified of Japanese backliners.
Call me wrong, but I think it's important to call this out for what it is as well: stereotyping. While stereotyping can have "positive" and "negative" connotations, we're still making an assumption about a large group of people and creating an expectation for them not based on who they are or how they actually play or anything about them as a person, but solely from where they were born and the characters in their username in a funny squid game. Not only is this shallow, but also a bit of a toxic thing to do, in my opinion.
Me and my friends always joke around when we match up in a JP lobby and lose we say that 8 year old masahiro only won because he’s Japanese but it’s wild that people genuinely believe that, I actually miss being able to join JP lobbies like in splatoon 1
Nah, nah, nah, my first time when I reached the "win 3 matches to ascend to S+" I swear, the sweatiest team of Japanese players even, THEY SCORED LIKE 10 SUPER CLAMS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MATCH, NON STOP AND MOVED FASTER THAN LIGHT
I've actually noticed something very similar happening in the community for another game I play, which is osu taiko Similar to Splat, Taiko is WAY more popular in Japan than anywhere else, and to an even bigger degree than Splat is. For reference, I'm the 74th highest ranked player in the US, which puts me at about rank 900 global. The 74th highest ranked player in Japan is about rank 150 global. Yeah, their best players are a bit ahead of us. But it's just that, their TOP players are ahead of OUR top players. It's not like being a Japanese player just makes you spawn at top 1000, there's just as, if not more, intermediate and beginner players there than anywhere else, because there's more players there period. And sure, when it comes to the 2 main high level tournaments (Taiko World Cup and Expert Global Taiko Showdown), Japanese players usually take them pretty handily, other countries (US, South Korea, France, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc.) aren't completely helpless against them. So unless you're literally one of the best players in the world that's not from Japan, it doesn't matter a whole lot to you if you're playing against a team with Japanese players in a tournament.
This is a really great video! I feel like a lot of non comp people convince themselves that they cannot compare to anyone from Japan in any nintendo game. I really like the theme of "improvement is interal" that you've been pushing through this channel!
Great vid as always, and aye good stuff with the running man. I was a runner too but had to stop because of my bad achilles, but I look back at it fondly and it definitely influenced how I approach other competitive sports and games like Splatoon and Smash Bros. Nice times too, I stopped during college but in high school I had a sub 5 mile and sub 16 3 mile. Now thinking about it I'm seeing a parallel between Splatoon players being worried about Japanese players and runners being worried about Kenyans.
Seeing Japanese characters in my lobbies is honestly pretty exciting to me. Since I'm a western player that lives in Canada, I think usually don't get matched with jp players, so I embrace the challenge whenever it presents itself. I wouldn't say there unbeatable tho.
Something to note is the fact that some people purposely chose a Japanese name when not actually. One reason is that they know the fear it instills in other players and throws them off their game. Another is because Japanese is a cool language and has an interesting culture.
I live in an area that for some reason always matches me up with at least 3 japanese players every match, and though I lose most of the matches, I can tell you that I, a person who has no experience in shooters and only started playing splatoon 3 months ago can sometimes hold my own, and even consistently beat them. You have to practice and have faith in yourself, while also knowing your limitations.
It didn't psyche me out during the match (because I didn't notice until it was over) but losing my third rank-up attempt to S+ while being matched against Arashi of all people made me decide to not play ranked until the next season when all the experts will be playing in X rank instead of slaughtering me. It sucks because I kept going 5-0 or 5-1 in the series beforehand to get to the rank-up matches so I know I probably don't belong in S right now but it won't let me into S+ because of the matchmaking. I really hate Splatoon 3's matchmaking in every mode. Even in Turf War where the opponents were graced with 3 E-Liters but we had no chargers at all and we stomped them 75% to 8% while standing in their spawn for 50% of the match. And this was on Inkblot, not a bad spawncampy map like Mahi or Hammerhead. And don't even get me started on how many people are in Eggsecutive VP that don't belong there, too. It gets frustrating being matched with people who clearly aren't at your skill level, whether they are above or below you. I guess any tips on how to stay cool-headed when there wasn't much of anything more you could have done to help your team win would be appreciated. I get I can always improve and do better but I am talking about the times where my performance was good enough to the point that if everyone else on my team was playing at a similar level then we would have won. Like losing at VP 40 when I can hold my own in at least 250 due to teammates dying constantly, or teammates making A- rank level decisions while showing off their S+ rank banner badge, or me getting #1 enemy splatter as a Jr. with 6 kills while a Splash and Splattershot are on my team.
I remember this was my mindset when I played splatoon 1, which I was not good, and was like 10. but yeah, this is a message I've been confused on lately with a lot of my friends who I play with, some of them groan as soon as they see a japanese team up against us.
As an Australian, I’m probably (I’m not sure as this is only my personal experience) matched against more Japanese players than Americans are. I think the fact I play against Japanese players more often has kind of negated the notion that they are all extreme top tier players. This is just from my experience though and I’m not completely certain that this is the case.
Thank you for bringing up the comparison about highschool teams, I was varsity on a division IV highschool wrestling team all 4 years, but only because I was the only student on the team in that weightclass. Meanwhile I had a friend who went to a division I school, was waaaaaaaay better than me, but was only varsity his senior year cause there were so many other student in his weightclass.
My main solution to this problem is, just look at your teams splashtags instead of the enemy teams names, or look at their clothing instead, you cant really get discouraged by not knowing who you're up against
Positive take: Have some confidence, and go have some fun. Negative take: Because they have better environment (better connection, better latency, no lag), they have advantage against you. If you are a high level player, you may defeat their scrub, but you won't win against someone of your level. And their scrub will defeat you if you're a scrub too.
I've watched many Squid School videos. And many of them have been very helpful for me. But this one, I cannot get behind. Personal experiences have completely countered these points.
Let's not forget, anyone can put Japanese characters in their name. That player with the Japanese name who scares you could easily be an American trying to psych you out.
I don't understand why there is a region select for splatfests if the results aren't region specific and you get matched up with people outside the region selected constantly, very often with less stable connections do the distance
Thank you for making this video - after hearing the hype about Japanese players from others, I even found myself psyching myself out when I am playing against a JP team. After realizing the points you made I definitely don’t worry about it anymore.
haven’t even watched the video but oh my god i was rambling to myself in my friends’ discord server about how i don’t like this mindset the other day????!
>plays against JP team >takeshi hits the 360 no scope squid surge off the wall with a squiffer >kensuke flanks team with dapple drink buff while my teammates struggle >kyosuke has max special up with the reflux >nakamura has 500 hours in game and has the rare banner+rare title I could tell when I’m about to lose and it’s usually when I play against Japanese players
One thing that may influence things is when you play. Playing at noon time EST means you're playing at 2 AM Japan time. Actual Japanese players up playing at that time are going to be no-lifer NEETS who aren't going to school or work. If you're playing at 6 PM EST though, your Japanese counterparts are going to be at 8 AM.... morning time for the kids to come out and play (assuming they aren't in school that day). No need to be scared of that.
Japanese players always beat me because the lag results in airspray one shotting me, people surviving a full bloblobber blast to the face, they tank blaster shots, and I'm splatted from around corners.
Great video as always, but I'd like to make a counterargument- not all (or even most) JP players are going to be anywhere near the top level, but a significantly _larger proportion_ of the JP community is going to care more about improving at the game than the Western audience due to the game's massive popularity there. This means that, because of the inflated number of decent players in the mid to upper ranks compared to the number of bad ones, it's a lot harder for them to improve their rank and internal MMR (by virtue of being placed against better players on average), leading to them to be placed in a lower rank than they would be if they were playing in the West. This is a side effect of using the same ranking system for two different time zones and playerbases that don't normally intersect; when they do occasionally get placed in the same match, it can lead to frustration for mid-level Western players because they're being pitted against players who are effectively a rank or two better than them. Borrowing your sports team analogy, yes, the 20th percentile athlete of a local community college could probably outrun _a majority_ of the students at a large state university. But pit them against the 20th percentile athlete of that university? Yeah, good luck with that.
Do you think you could do a video on how to adjust to tv settings. I've been playing in handheld ever since I first got my switch, and I know that sometime I'm going to have to learn so I can record, but I find it so much easier to play in handheld. My motion settings are the same, though I have tried changing them. Is this just me, or are there actual strategies and differences?
This will need to be added to the list of mental barrier many of us will need to overcome. Your mind is your greatest weapon. Only you can overcome yourself. Stop comparing yourself to others. They are not you. You are not them.
I don't like playing on Japanese servers. Not because of the players, but because the connection is always super unstable. I was put onto a Japanese server the other day and someone splatted me ~10 seconds after I splatted them.
whenever i end up in a jp lobby i tremble in fear not bc of their skill level but because dcs are more likely than usual and the latency can get noticeable as we literally live on opposite sides of the world
I do find that a lot of people are using the “Asian” stereotype. However, since the first splatoon I’ve been frustrated by being stuck in lobbies with Japanese people, because I have become the minority. Everyone else lives in a space smaller than a state from the US, and I’m thousands of miles away. It’s the same when a single Japanese person gets stuck in an otherwise American lobby, though. The team with the odd one out usually loses regardless of which is the majority or minority. It’s the connection that makes playing with them frustrating. Maybe they dislike playing with us too.
When I was in marching band in high school, we were in a middle of a the road division. Our school also barely has any money. We still mopped the floor with rich kid schools with tons of students at competitions.
Anyone else feel like “Japanese players are all super good” feels vaguely racist as well? I guess yeah there may be latency issues and they might play better but it still is a stereotype, in the same way “all asian people are smart” is.
@@Renulph Stereotypes often feed into/are related to racism, though. Take the thumbnail, for instance. Belief that JP players are really good -> negative attitudes towards JP players specifically
The topic of this video funnily enough made me remember a time when I was matched against a team of entirely Japanese players in ranked. I was freaking out, but then they ended up actually not being very good at all. My team demolished them with ease. It’s important to note I was in A rank. I thought that was pretty hilarious.
I remember for me personally, this meme started out back in splatoon 1. In that game when I finally managed to make it all the way to S rank, I almost never saw anyone in my lobbies with an English name and they were almost exclusively Japanese. Dunno about other people, but for me I never seriously took a Japanese name to mean that the other players are way better than me: just that I must have been good enough that it couldn't find any English players to match me up against, lol
The question I have is about relative skill on ladders. Does Splatoon match you up against the whole world in ranked usually, or does it try to bias towards local/better connections? Because if it's local, shouldn't the tournament pros be in the highest ranks if/when they solo queue? Would that affect the whole ladder, like, pushing really good people to lower ranks, or does it not work that way? I've heard of this in other games where NA/EU/Asia have the same ranking types, but an S rank in EU is not the same as an S rank in NA or Asia, for example. Meaning yes, someone of your skill level should be a fair fight, but the people in your rank aren't being graded the same. All that said, I'm in pretty low ranks so the people I see are 50/50 cracked and levelling up, or a scrub like me...US or Japan lol
The game takes multiple factors into consideration when matchmaking, including ping (connection speed between players) which will bias you toward players close to you geographically, but also skill level, range of weapon chosen, and some other factors, and sometimes one of those factors is compromised on more than others.
actually, yesterday, during your vod reviews, i was doing a series and came across a japanese team, but won!! got a little scared because of the names, but we started to overtake them 😃 (i’m b rank btw)
After playing with a bunch of Japan players in Splatoon 1 (since they're like the only ones still playing it), I've learned to make it simple. I see ink, I shoot. I see enemy, I shoot. They can outsmart me? Maybe, maybe. But I have yet to see one that can outsmart the woomie.
I don't want to be "that guy" but I also don't think it should go totally unsaid, this is a national sterotype and when people say it, a lot of times the subtext is just "asians are supercomputers" and I really don't like hearing people make those kinds of reductive claims for absolutely no reason. It's not a fun vibe for me!
Due to a combination of time zone and when I play I have experienced dealing with Japanese players for years ever since S1 and there are usually two things I've noticed as someone who has never been s rank before (closest so far was A rank in S1). 1. I'm way more likely to experience lag or flat out DCs when playing with or against Japanese players which I'm not sure if that's the distance making the connection weaker or someone just deciding to intentionally DC. This I know is out of my control. 2. It usually seems Japanese players when they see English names they shift to a more casual mode which over the years has resulted in me absolutely crushing a team of Japanese players or being crushed because the Japanese players on my team start to seemingly play more loosely. If it's a "pure" Japanese team or 3 out of 4 are they usually stay more focused on the objectives. What I'm basically saying is Japanese players also gain certain mentalities when seeing players from other regions. It's not just an American thing but doesn't mean it's okay either. Make sure not to psyche yourself out.
I always try my best against the Japanese players and sometimes win, though they are really hard to play against. I need to switch my playstyle a lot since I keep getting pushed by skirmishers and slayers cause I'm a backliner. Their movement is so crazy I can't even hit them with a charger, which is why I use the splatling more.
Honestly, the one thing I cannot get used to is the tick rate of the game. I really wish it was higher and everything just felt more "on-time". Even with a wired fiber connection, I can't get around how the connection just is. 😩
Full Japanese teams in rank fill me with so much fear. The only time I have ever beat a full team is when I completely changed my playstyle to full defense. Never once did I chase a player down & never did I go too far into mid. I just stayed back & picked off players that I saw approaching my teammates.
So what you're saying is that if I change my username to something like 『バカアメリカ人』, then I'll have a better chance of winning because I'll psych-out my opponents?
I use a Japanese name just to freak people out lmao I made it to S+ but the ranking in this game seems mostly a function of putting in time so far (at least till X battles), like it was matching me with S+ people when I was in B lol. I kinda want to change my splatfest region to Asia/Oceania just to see what it's like but would be worried about the ping (also it won't let me till next year so lol)
The stereotype around Japanese players on average being much better in the context of online Nintendo games is a stigma that dates all the way back to like, 2008 MkWii. But it legitimately hasn't been accurate for a long, long time. It was def true at the time (Trust me, I was there), but times have changed. Masahiro Yashiro the 16 year old Japanese high school student you ran into on solo Q isn't disproportionately likely to be better than you on average anymore. Times have changed, yall.
Honestly the first few time where i was playing against other japanese players i was SOOO nervous!! But at the end nothing felt too different and i even won most of the times. These days I dont really mind seeing asian players and the only thing that bothers me is that i cant read their names :D
yeah I really wish I had a way of telling them apart other than "I got splatted by uhh...the JP with uhh...the LONG name...?" or "OK I just took out um...the JP with uhhhhhh.........the equals sign in their name???" I don't play the game with others often enough to need to know callouts but it'd be cool if I at least could tell them apart at a glance without sounding stupid lol
@@SnoFitzroy needing to know players enough to use call outs is irrevalent. If they need booyahs for their bomb, give multiple if you can. If they splat the player that splatted you, booyah. For me personally I use this specifically as a way to thank them for getting the player that splatted me. If they start booyah-ing at the very beginning of the match for seemingly no reason, join in. It's a morale thing, hypes everyone up and surprisingly effective, even if everything still goes to shit. You don't have to do it but it feels good when you get a booyah back in response.
The problem I have is any time I see Japanese players they are lagging or the latency is terrible. I had matches where I would hit someone with the ink brush enough to kill them and they end up dying after they killed me. It go to the point were I would hit them enough time and then run off just to see I got the kill a few seconds later.
Hey how do you apologize to other online players for being bad at the game, lol, sometimes I just wanna play for the colors and sounds and dont feel good and thus dont play well but have nothing else to cling to for dopamine. Sometimes I just feel like I drag the team down lol?
I once got into a Japanese lobby, with me being the only person with an english name. The lag was insane, my deaths were delayed, and it downed my gameplay a lot. I believe others here in the west had a similar experience, and gradually over time began the misconception that JP players are naturally better at the game and are unbeatable
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Issue has been raised regarding my discussion of gender/physical sex characteristics and their effect on athletic performance, so I'd like to address a few things quickly:
Trans women are women and trans men are men. My wording, "biologically male/female" has been used by transphobes as a bad faith misrepresentation of science analyzing the human body in attempts to bar trans people from competing in athletics, and for that I do apologize. It was not a good choice of words. I do not mean to associate myself with that rhetoric. My research indicates that a trans woman runner's times quickly slow to a level consistent with cis women of a similar level of training a short time into her transition, and so when I say biologically female, trans people are totally included in that umbrella. Now, to be clear, it is absolutely correct to consider a trans woman a woman even pre-transition and to allow her that role in society regardless of how many estrogen pills she's taken. Even this isn't any kind of urgent problem in the athletic world; it hasn't led to a bunch of pre-transition trans women gaining massive athletic advantages like angry people on the internet have apparently chosen to believe without basis in a rational consideration of the evidence. There are other biological advantages in sports that we don't control for, like that some people have genes passed down from Olympic athletes and others don't, so what variance may come from being trans should hardly be much of a priority in terms of regulation.
If anyone does still take issue with what I've said or the way I've presented it, I'm still happy to hear it out. This game's community is very diverse, and I want it made as clear as possible that everyone who seeks to engage with the game safely and in good faith is welcome here.
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I play this game for the purpose of playing this game. Not for anything related to trans, gender, religion, race, age, politics or anything else. Can we please keep the content strictly splatoon related? Gem, I've been a Patreon supporter since the beginning and will gladly do so as long as you keep squid school splatoon content. I've been playing since splatoon 1 launched and hold your commentary and skills in a very high regard. Please ignore people that will always be upset no matter what you do. It's a lot easier said than done, but they won't ever be satiated even with an apology.
no guys trust me yashiro the 8 year old who got the game for his birthday is basically a top player
So true
I feel like Fighting the youngest Best Tekken player when youre not a tekken player at all.
Not Yashiro 😭
Bet he's been training with his friends, Chris and Shermie.
Really, the person on the enemy’s team with the Japanese name could just be the little Yamada Taro from your average primary school.
I think the main reason why this happens is because there is already a huge stereotype in the gaming community as a whole about Japanese players being extremely cracked at competitive games, so I feel like this stereotype just naturally extended into splatoon.
there are some games where the reverse happens, in cs:go the japanese scene is very dead and the asia/oceania region is tier 3 at best while the europeans dominate major tournaments and third party matchmaking websites
really interesting seeing videos like this with an outside perspective
Very much my thoughts, the mindset is not only unproductive but perpetuates stereotypes.
now see this is what i was thinking.
I just remember how people would dread seeing a Japanese-made Mario Maker level
It doesn't help most people here are lost when it comes to Japanese text and already feel confused seeing it pop up in a menu since Splat is geared towards JP support as a japanese game
Once in a blue moon, when I get a lobby with ALL Japanese players and I’m playing really well, I think to myself:
“What if I’M the scary player with the foreign name?” >:3c
Oh that's the dream right there.
I've been in calls playing matches with casual Japanese players, and actually had that happen. We once teamed up together with me hosting on the European server, and the first comment one of them made when they saw the opponent's names was: "On no, they're from overseas! Watch out, they're probably strong!"
@@Rinabow So the joke goes both ways, huh?
thats actually so cute . just seeing players from foriegn countries immediately makes them seem like pro gamers, ithink that’s funny it goes both ways
I've always wondered if japanese players are constantly making fun of the rest of us for being worse
Thank you for making the lag/latency aspect one of the first things you mentioned. I've always wondered how much of this "skill gap" boiled down to Japanese teams just...being physically closer to each other than, say, an American lobby having teammates on different coasts and the game choosing to have the wifi of someone living in the rural midwest in between them to host.
EDIT: Also, I wonder how much of this "JP players are unbeatable" mindset is just self-fulfilling prophecy and psyching yourself out? I feel like some people see an all-Japanese enemy team and just immediately stop trying which, yeah, of course you're gonna bomb the match then.
I played Splatoon 1 at a time of day that had me usually being the only American player in an otherwise Japanese lobby, and the only difference I really noticed when I played when my timezone was awake was that the advanced strategies tended to be slightly different. Neither was worse, they just had slightly different meta. I only ever played solo queue though, so I can't say anything about competitive team play other than that you could TELL when a team was communicating beyond the D-pad.
I will say that region-locked Splatfests were actually easier for me than Only-American-In-A-Japanese-Lobby matches, but I maintain that the reason was because I was That Charger Main and it was just a little bit easier for me to get the shots I wanted simply because I wasn't fighting lag as bad as I was used to, haha!
Wise words in that edit.
@@CRT.vI’ve had this theory for a while. I mean Nintendo seemed to have no problem giving Japan exclusive gear what would stop them from allowing JP players to have an actual voice chat. Japanese players play too well to NOT be verbally communicating with each other
@@unl3ash3d95 you can tell when a team is communicating with each other. Their actions become more coordinated. It isn't only japanese players that talk to each other.
@@unl3ash3d95 I can tell you as someone who plays Splatoon 3 in Japan with Japanese coworkers at S+ 30+ (minus me, haha funny salmon run) that there is no such mystery unfair advantage tool that Japanese players use to win.
As someone who is bilingual and hangs out in both Japanese and English gaming communities online, I've noticed that this phenomenon not only exists across multiple different games, but also applies to some extent in the reverse. I remember once being in a call with a group of Japanese friends who were all mostly new to the game, and we decided to team up together and play for fun with me hosting on the European server, and when they saw all the English names on screen they commented something along the lines of: "Oh wow foreign players! They're probably really strong!"
I think part of it is a fear of the unknown. If you're against a player whose name you can't even read, it's hard to really know what to expect from them, and I suspect that this probably makes some people a little anxious. Even in games where official competitive tournaments have far more western players at the top level like Pokémon, I still encounter a lot of people who talk about Japanese players like they're some kind of elite, and that winning matches against Japanese players is some kind of achievement.
wow ur so cool for being bilingual ur journey on learning Japanese was rly inspiring and honestly bettered my life thank you!
Yeah, no. Not the fear of the unknown, trust me. Felipe and Gustav aren't making people have nightmares about Splatoon. It's clearly and definitively the Japanese players who are like this.
I couldn't give less of a flying fuck what language a player's name's in. Is he pushing my shit in or not, via an online lobby? Everyone's unknown online. The fuck does the name Frank or Toshiro make any difference to me?
I have fears of playing against Toshiro and his friends because they're fucken demons in the game, and Frank and his friends are at least displaying normal human levels of gameplay.
for me, it's always been a running joke, like "oh no we're gonna get destroyed" but really as soon as i get into the match i forget about all of that
Yesss I have the same mindset, but I also really enjoy being paired with people because I think WOW I AM PLAYING WOTH PEOPLE across THE WORLD!!! And that’s so fucking cool
@@aria5981 i feel like the level of technology we have is always under-praised. like, we can, with little delay, see the exact inputs and their actions someone on the direct opposite of the world is doing. it's the norm now, sure, but that doesn't mean it isnt still amazing it's even possible
SAME
but now splatoon 3 i just stopped that thing for some reason, maybe because i see so many more japanese players in my games due to so many sales in japan
It's fun to joke about but yeah it shouldn't ever be taken seriously.
Yep, it's just a funny.
The fact that it comes true 70-ish percent of the time has nothing to do about it! (no sarcasm was intended)
as someone who watches japanese streamers, there are a handful who are really really good at splatoon, but there are more who are beginners that just started the game through splatoon 3. and if youre worried about those really strong japanese players, they already reached S+50 in the 1st week of the game's release so i doubt most of us will have to worry about them.
Ranks don't matter in this game, I got matched with S players when I was B.
Is there any JP players you reccomend watching for the comp gameplay (even with the language barrier as I only understand English currently)?
@@TheFrantastic Yeah, I got matched with S+ in B lol. I think it uses your MMR no matter what your actual rank is to find people so the letter doesn't matter that much.
@@TheFrantastic That's just means you or the S player are on the wrong rank. Once next season hits, those who can't keep up at S will be going back in rank.
Except for the fact they'll stiller match S players with anyone because the ranking system is broken
This 100% 👏
I’m surprised ur seeing this video
Bruh this comment is soo underrated considerating that it had @DUDE
Congrats on turf war tournament victory dude!
Japanese player here, Japanese lobbies arent that different to english ones ( at least in splatoon 2). I think we just dont play similarly to how western players play and so people struggles to deal with japanese players. Ive been playing on the western server since I moved away from japan and I think some times my way of playing is quite different
How do the play styles differ?
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@@MrCherrycoke18 I watch a couple of Japanese splatoon players (not super competitive types) and what I've noticed is that they tend to be more willing to retreat and regroup rather than take bad fights, but sometimes that caution causes them to lose points, or teammates, or the match itself. On the other hand the self-preservation can work out and win them matches.
I noticed that is splatoon 2 I could regularly beat Japanese players because my play style looked chaotic and unpredictable compared to theirs
@@AravisXor me as a slayer I learned that against Japanese players I have to shark a lot more and be a lot more patient than i am in western lobbies. Also since they are more willing to retreat and not take bad fights I’ve learned to make it hard for them to determine whether it’s a bad fight or not
I think the funniest thing about this is that this started as a meme in Splatoon 1. It was a joke from us veterans, at the time new.
It was basically the "McDonalds Ice Cream Machine" joke for Splatoon. Sure, there was a slight chance the Japanese players were ahead, but the meme more highlighted that, the lag and a funny stereotype together.
God, I remember this. Makes me sad
oh my god we really can call ourselves splatoon veterans, you don't know how ancient it makes me feel
@@hola-gy8te It's been 7 years
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Honestly this joke is seen in a lot of gaming communities
@@hola-gy8te We're getting old, lads.
This is so true. The amount of times I’ve played with viewers and they immediately start complaining or blame losing solely on the fact they see Japanese names is ridiculous. They defeat themselves before the battle even begins. They are just normal people. You can beat them like everyone else.
They are human too and are subjected to flaws. Just take advantage of those flaws at the right time to beat them.
Worst part is it’s probably some American dude who put Japanese characters just to scare everybody 😂
@@unl3ash3d95 yeah I know some of them definitely are Americans with katakana.
3 ranked losses to japanese players in a row by me. You're wrong
@@S7phirothGaming You're just contradicting what the title says to not do. You CAN beat them. It's your mentality that makes beating them impossible to do.
My biggest issue is they often have a different playing style when compared to western players so I have a harder time predicting what they're going to do, especially when they're on my team.
Japanese players are so much more aggressive
@@TroyVan6654 n-no...
@@TroyVan6654 I don't agree on that.
@@TroyVan6654 Depends. Since I'm physically closer to JP/KR/TW, I get players from JP a LOT. And while there are a lot of very aggressive Japanese players (heaven forbid I use a charger or a splatling), a fair amount of them also play a bit safer. Picking fights more often, not charging in unless they see an opportunity to, so forth and so on. You either get the ones that'll go up in your face and win, or the ones that are carefully finding their way to clear the objective (and win).
This just isn't true. Confirmation bias?
Very true. My biggest issue playing Japanese players these days is that the matches I play with them tend to be very laggy and deaths tend to come far after I splatted them. I mostly just joke fear when I wind up in a lobby with Japanese players these days because my very first experiences in Splatoon 1 involved me as a small lvl 4 squid in lobbies filled with lvl 50 Japanese players and I was always curbstomped and spawncamped lol. So I learned very early to respect Japanese players lol. As I’ve gotten better at the game myself I don’t care as much that they are Japanese.
Edit: My memory changed the levels.
*You could only go up to level 50 in Splatoon 1 (from 2.0.0 onwards), level 99 wasn't a thing until Splatoon 2's 2.0.0 update.
@@lol-ih1tl no way really? Lol. My memory legit changed the levels in my head because I could’ve swore I remembered seeing the number 99 when I was playing Splatoon 1 lol. Ooop. Oh well the effect is still the same
Respect them as much as everyone else, respect doesn't come from skill
"Wow i have won 5 games in a row!"
Random guy named Sato with a level 999 badge:
i love getting put into japanese lobbies. they’re not unbeatable, but a large majority of the time (at least near the end of splatoon 2) they feel at least good, which is great practice
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT THANK YOU SO MUCH. i’ve been playing with “unbeatable japanese players” literally since 2015, they’re no different from any other players, they just have a bigger scene and that’s it. thank you so much for this
Whenever I see a Japanese name I always think "damn maybe I should go to bed"
I’ve been playing since the second game. How am I only NOW learning of this mentality towards Japanese players?
Same and I've been playing since the first
Idk where you were in the 2nd game, people were like this everywhere lol
Honestly, this is a remnant of early 2000s meme culture where there was always that cracked player who had a Japanese name. I think this whole ordeal is just people taking what was originally a joke observation too seriously.
It's been present for many years, essentially since the birth of widespread internet based gaming. Starting largely in part as a result of stereotypes and a lack of understanding regarding foreign cultures. This isn't just a problem with how people treat and think about Japanese players, it largely applies to foreign players as a whole, even with European players.
I always just joke about this mentality when I’m playing with my friends or even alone. A name doesn’t mean anything until they can prove they’re better than me. If someone can outplay me, ggs, I either made a mistake or just am not as skilled. Like Gem said, don’t let the mentality psych you out.
The part about large schools having an advantage is so true. When I was in high school, I played both JV and Varsity soccer as a Freshman due to lack of players. The top school in the soccer division has trials and cuts as they have too many players to pool from. In fact, it’s even unfair to play against them. One game we had, they regularly swap out the whole team with the bench with fresh players. Meanwhile my team only can sub out one player at a time. It bewildered me how that is not considered an unfair advantage.
THANK YOU! Im a japanese person myself (who got raised in america) and when i tell people im japanese they seem to play worst when i fight them in 1v1s for fun. Its so interesting how this stereotype works but.. Some people need to realize that bad japanese players can exist too. I got triple X in splatoon 2 with 2,000 hours played, same with a full american person, but just because im japanese doesnt mean im better. Heck that american person prolly better then me!
What I have to tell a lot of my viewers and my friends when we play sploon (especially those at lower levels/ranks) is that a B rank Japanese player is still just a B rank player. We all play the game differently, and we play it for different reasons. Don’t assume because of someone’s name or where they come from that they’re tryharding. We are all still playing this game because we enjoy it no matter who you are.
Got adopted into a group of Japanese players during Splatfest and had a total blast. We ended up playing together over 2 days even though my rank is visibly way lower. Had a really good time thanks to their warm welcome.
The only reason they would be unplayable/unbeatable is latency and connection issues from p2p.
Also good thing to note is a lot of Western players use Japanese names now that you use a unique username compared to your Switch profile. Estimate, but 40% of my competition has Japanese usernames but less than 20% of my “Users I’ve played with” section has Japanese profiles.
You could always have a Japanese name on your Switch profile. I personally had mine in Katakana while playing Splatoon 2 for years just for a joke from my friends being terrified of Japanese backliners.
@@limitedlistener6460 i know i'm like a year late, but i can confirm this is true!! i've had my switch name + splashtag as「★アオリ」for quite a while now
Splatoon's matchmaking is a bad joke and you know it
Call me wrong, but I think it's important to call this out for what it is as well: stereotyping. While stereotyping can have "positive" and "negative" connotations, we're still making an assumption about a large group of people and creating an expectation for them not based on who they are or how they actually play or anything about them as a person, but solely from where they were born and the characters in their username in a funny squid game. Not only is this shallow, but also a bit of a toxic thing to do, in my opinion.
I agree and would appreciate if this video were taken down. Thank you as you have worded it nicer than I could have said it.
Me and my friends always joke around when we match up in a JP lobby and lose we say that 8 year old masahiro only won because he’s Japanese but it’s wild that people genuinely believe that, I actually miss being able to join JP lobbies like in splatoon 1
No, I don't think I will
Nah, nah, nah, my first time when I reached the "win 3 matches to ascend to S+"
I swear, the sweatiest team of Japanese players even, THEY SCORED LIKE 10 SUPER CLAMS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MATCH, NON STOP AND MOVED FASTER THAN LIGHT
I've actually noticed something very similar happening in the community for another game I play, which is osu taiko
Similar to Splat, Taiko is WAY more popular in Japan than anywhere else, and to an even bigger degree than Splat is. For reference, I'm the 74th highest ranked player in the US, which puts me at about rank 900 global. The 74th highest ranked player in Japan is about rank 150 global. Yeah, their best players are a bit ahead of us. But it's just that, their TOP players are ahead of OUR top players. It's not like being a Japanese player just makes you spawn at top 1000, there's just as, if not more, intermediate and beginner players there than anywhere else, because there's more players there period. And sure, when it comes to the 2 main high level tournaments (Taiko World Cup and Expert Global Taiko Showdown), Japanese players usually take them pretty handily, other countries (US, South Korea, France, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc.) aren't completely helpless against them. So unless you're literally one of the best players in the world that's not from Japan, it doesn't matter a whole lot to you if you're playing against a team with Japanese players in a tournament.
This is a really great video! I feel like a lot of non comp people convince themselves that they cannot compare to anyone from Japan in any nintendo game. I really like the theme of "improvement is interal" that you've been pushing through this channel!
Great vid as always, and aye good stuff with the running man. I was a runner too but had to stop because of my bad achilles, but I look back at it fondly and it definitely influenced how I approach other competitive sports and games like Splatoon and Smash Bros. Nice times too, I stopped during college but in high school I had a sub 5 mile and sub 16 3 mile. Now thinking about it I'm seeing a parallel between Splatoon players being worried about Japanese players and runners being worried about Kenyans.
Wait, so the only thing I have to do in order to intimidate my oponents is putting japanese characters in my name?
I randomly ended up in a game where everyone one else was Japanese. It was such fun.
I've literally got my butt kicked by two Japanese players in the other team...
They were X rank. I was S.
Seeing Japanese characters in my lobbies is honestly pretty exciting to me. Since I'm a western player that lives in Canada, I think usually don't get matched with jp players, so I embrace the challenge whenever it presents itself. I wouldn't say there unbeatable tho.
Something to note is the fact that some people purposely chose a Japanese name when not actually. One reason is that they know the fear it instills in other players and throws them off their game. Another is because Japanese is a cool language and has an interesting culture.
this guy was that guy in school that couldnt take a joke
I live in an area that for some reason always matches me up with at least 3 japanese players every match, and though I lose most of the matches, I can tell you that I, a person who has no experience in shooters and only started playing splatoon 3 months ago can sometimes hold my own, and even consistently beat them. You have to practice and have faith in yourself, while also knowing your limitations.
Y’know you make some really good points, after watching this I’m feeling a little less nervous about being in the takoroka division for X battles
It didn't psyche me out during the match (because I didn't notice until it was over) but losing my third rank-up attempt to S+ while being matched against Arashi of all people made me decide to not play ranked until the next season when all the experts will be playing in X rank instead of slaughtering me. It sucks because I kept going 5-0 or 5-1 in the series beforehand to get to the rank-up matches so I know I probably don't belong in S right now but it won't let me into S+ because of the matchmaking. I really hate Splatoon 3's matchmaking in every mode. Even in Turf War where the opponents were graced with 3 E-Liters but we had no chargers at all and we stomped them 75% to 8% while standing in their spawn for 50% of the match. And this was on Inkblot, not a bad spawncampy map like Mahi or Hammerhead. And don't even get me started on how many people are in Eggsecutive VP that don't belong there, too. It gets frustrating being matched with people who clearly aren't at your skill level, whether they are above or below you.
I guess any tips on how to stay cool-headed when there wasn't much of anything more you could have done to help your team win would be appreciated. I get I can always improve and do better but I am talking about the times where my performance was good enough to the point that if everyone else on my team was playing at a similar level then we would have won. Like losing at VP 40 when I can hold my own in at least 250 due to teammates dying constantly, or teammates making A- rank level decisions while showing off their S+ rank banner badge, or me getting #1 enemy splatter as a Jr. with 6 kills while a Splash and Splattershot are on my team.
I remember this was my mindset when I played splatoon 1, which
I was not good, and was like 10.
but yeah, this is a message I've been confused on lately with a lot of my friends who I play with, some of them groan as soon as they see a japanese team up against us.
As an Australian, I’m probably (I’m not sure as this is only my personal experience) matched against more Japanese players than Americans are. I think the fact I play against Japanese players more often has kind of negated the notion that they are all extreme top tier players. This is just from my experience though and I’m not completely certain that this is the case.
Thank you for bringing up the comparison about highschool teams, I was varsity on a division IV highschool wrestling team all 4 years, but only because I was the only student on the team in that weightclass. Meanwhile I had a friend who went to a division I school, was waaaaaaaay better than me, but was only varsity his senior year cause there were so many other student in his weightclass.
I was just talking about this the other day on your server. It's very weird and hopefully you bringing this up will slow down how often I see this
My main solution to this problem is, just look at your teams splashtags instead of the enemy teams names, or look at their clothing instead, you cant really get discouraged by not knowing who you're up against
They arent unbeatable but damn are they hard to beat sometines
Positive take: Have some confidence, and go have some fun.
Negative take: Because they have better environment (better connection, better latency, no lag), they have advantage against you. If you are a high level player, you may defeat their scrub, but you won't win against someone of your level. And their scrub will defeat you if you're a scrub too.
I've watched many Squid School videos. And many of them have been very helpful for me. But this one, I cannot get behind. Personal experiences have completely countered these points.
are you sure it's not just confirmation bias?
Who can ever be sure of that?
@@rechtebananaSplatoon 3's matchmaking: 🍷🗿
this feels personal
Let's not forget, anyone can put Japanese characters in their name. That player with the Japanese name who scares you could easily be an American trying to psych you out.
I don't understand why there is a region select for splatfests if the results aren't region specific and you get matched up with people outside the region selected constantly, very often with less stable connections do the distance
It's for if they ever decide to do a splatfest unique to one region again
People forget the fact that there are bad Japanese players as well lol, not every one is completely insane
Thank you for making this video - after hearing the hype about Japanese players from others, I even found myself psyching myself out when I am playing against a JP team. After realizing the points you made I definitely don’t worry about it anymore.
haven’t even watched the video but oh my god i was rambling to myself in my friends’ discord server about how i don’t like this mindset the other day????!
>plays against JP team
>takeshi hits the 360 no scope squid surge off the wall with a squiffer
>kensuke flanks team with dapple drink buff while my teammates struggle
>kyosuke has max special up with the reflux
>nakamura has 500 hours in game and has the rare banner+rare title
I could tell when I’m about to lose and it’s usually when I play against Japanese players
I love how undertow clams with splattershot is Gem's go-to background footage.
One thing that may influence things is when you play. Playing at noon time EST means you're playing at 2 AM Japan time. Actual Japanese players up playing at that time are going to be no-lifer NEETS who aren't going to school or work. If you're playing at 6 PM EST though, your Japanese counterparts are going to be at 8 AM.... morning time for the kids to come out and play (assuming they aren't in school that day). No need to be scared of that.
As an asian person who plays splatoon, i literally lose 16 times a day how is that possible
Ties well with ProChara's "5 Mistakes You Should Fix!"
Japanese players always beat me because the lag results in airspray one shotting me, people surviving a full bloblobber blast to the face, they tank blaster shots, and I'm splatted from around corners.
Great video as always, but I'd like to make a counterargument- not all (or even most) JP players are going to be anywhere near the top level, but a significantly _larger proportion_ of the JP community is going to care more about improving at the game than the Western audience due to the game's massive popularity there.
This means that, because of the inflated number of decent players in the mid to upper ranks compared to the number of bad ones, it's a lot harder for them to improve their rank and internal MMR (by virtue of being placed against better players on average), leading to them to be placed in a lower rank than they would be if they were playing in the West.
This is a side effect of using the same ranking system for two different time zones and playerbases that don't normally intersect; when they do occasionally get placed in the same match, it can lead to frustration for mid-level Western players because they're being pitted against players who are effectively a rank or two better than them.
Borrowing your sports team analogy, yes, the 20th percentile athlete of a local community college could probably outrun _a majority_ of the students at a large state university. But pit them against the 20th percentile athlete of that university? Yeah, good luck with that.
Do you think you could do a video on how to adjust to tv settings. I've been playing in handheld ever since I first got my switch, and I know that sometime I'm going to have to learn so I can record, but I find it so much easier to play in handheld. My motion settings are the same, though I have tried changing them. Is this just me, or are there actual strategies and differences?
This will need to be added to the list of mental barrier many of us will need to overcome. Your mind is your greatest weapon. Only you can overcome yourself. Stop comparing yourself to others. They are not you. You are not them.
I don't like playing on Japanese servers. Not because of the players, but because the connection is always super unstable. I was put onto a Japanese server the other day and someone splatted me ~10 seconds after I splatted them.
whenever i end up in a jp lobby i tremble in fear not bc of their skill level but because dcs are more likely than usual and the latency can get noticeable as we literally live on opposite sides of the world
Certainly not unbeatable, but their top players are undoubtedly the best players of this game, who represent the highest competitive level.
nice vid!
I do find that a lot of people are using the “Asian” stereotype. However, since the first splatoon I’ve been frustrated by being stuck in lobbies with Japanese people, because I have become the minority. Everyone else lives in a space smaller than a state from the US, and I’m thousands of miles away. It’s the same when a single Japanese person gets stuck in an otherwise American lobby, though. The team with the odd one out usually loses regardless of which is the majority or minority. It’s the connection that makes playing with them frustrating. Maybe they dislike playing with us too.
When I was in marching band in high school, we were in a middle of a the road division. Our school also barely has any money. We still mopped the floor with rich kid schools with tons of students at competitions.
Anyone else feel like “Japanese players are all super good” feels vaguely racist as well? I guess yeah there may be latency issues and they might play better but it still is a stereotype, in the same way “all asian people are smart” is.
That's a stereotype, not racism, big difference and important to learn.
@@Renulph Stereotypes often feed into/are related to racism, though. Take the thumbnail, for instance. Belief that JP players are really good -> negative attitudes towards JP players specifically
The topic of this video funnily enough made me remember a time when I was matched against a team of entirely Japanese players in ranked. I was freaking out, but then they ended up actually not being very good at all. My team demolished them with ease. It’s important to note I was in A rank. I thought that was pretty hilarious.
I remember for me personally, this meme started out back in splatoon 1. In that game when I finally managed to make it all the way to S rank, I almost never saw anyone in my lobbies with an English name and they were almost exclusively Japanese.
Dunno about other people, but for me I never seriously took a Japanese name to mean that the other players are way better than me: just that I must have been good enough that it couldn't find any English players to match me up against, lol
The question I have is about relative skill on ladders. Does Splatoon match you up against the whole world in ranked usually, or does it try to bias towards local/better connections? Because if it's local, shouldn't the tournament pros be in the highest ranks if/when they solo queue? Would that affect the whole ladder, like, pushing really good people to lower ranks, or does it not work that way?
I've heard of this in other games where NA/EU/Asia have the same ranking types, but an S rank in EU is not the same as an S rank in NA or Asia, for example. Meaning yes, someone of your skill level should be a fair fight, but the people in your rank aren't being graded the same.
All that said, I'm in pretty low ranks so the people I see are 50/50 cracked and levelling up, or a scrub like me...US or Japan lol
The game takes multiple factors into consideration when matchmaking, including ping (connection speed between players) which will bias you toward players close to you geographically, but also skill level, range of weapon chosen, and some other factors, and sometimes one of those factors is compromised on more than others.
Alright guys, you heard the man, time to break out the gaming genetics we’ve been ignoring for the last couple thousand years
I miss the dating advice gem gave us
Dating tip: avoid developing irrational stereotypes about other people
@@SquidSchool thanks man it’ll help me a lot later in life
I’ve kind of just went along for some reason and know I see the flaws so thanks
actually, yesterday, during your vod reviews, i was doing a series and came across a japanese team, but won!! got a little scared because of the names, but we started to overtake them 😃 (i’m b rank btw)
You dont gotta worry about them while youre in b rank bro just wait till you get into S+ they get sweaty asf😭
@@idkeitherbruv feels like that and thats probally why, because thats the point most of those players are really good
After playing with a bunch of Japan players in Splatoon 1 (since they're like the only ones still playing it), I've learned to make it simple.
I see ink, I shoot. I see enemy, I shoot.
They can outsmart me? Maybe, maybe. But I have yet to see one that can outsmart the woomie.
I don't want to be "that guy" but I also don't think it should go totally unsaid, this is a national sterotype and when people say it, a lot of times the subtext is just "asians are supercomputers" and I really don't like hearing people make those kinds of reductive claims for absolutely no reason. It's not a fun vibe for me!
Due to a combination of time zone and when I play I have experienced dealing with Japanese players for years ever since S1 and there are usually two things I've noticed as someone who has never been s rank before (closest so far was A rank in S1).
1. I'm way more likely to experience lag or flat out DCs when playing with or against Japanese players which I'm not sure if that's the distance making the connection weaker or someone just deciding to intentionally DC. This I know is out of my control.
2. It usually seems Japanese players when they see English names they shift to a more casual mode which over the years has resulted in me absolutely crushing a team of Japanese players or being crushed because the Japanese players on my team start to seemingly play more loosely. If it's a "pure" Japanese team or 3 out of 4 are they usually stay more focused on the objectives.
What I'm basically saying is Japanese players also gain certain mentalities when seeing players from other regions. It's not just an American thing but doesn't mean it's okay either. Make sure not to psyche yourself out.
I always try my best against the Japanese players and sometimes win, though they are really hard to play against. I need to switch my playstyle a lot since I keep getting pushed by skirmishers and slayers cause I'm a backliner. Their movement is so crazy I can't even hit them with a charger, which is why I use the splatling more.
Honestly, the one thing I cannot get used to is the tick rate of the game. I really wish it was higher and everything just felt more "on-time". Even with a wired fiber connection, I can't get around how the connection just is. 😩
Full Japanese teams in rank fill me with so much fear. The only time I have ever beat a full team is when I completely changed my playstyle to full defense. Never once did I chase a player down & never did I go too far into mid. I just stayed back & picked off players that I saw approaching my teammates.
So what you're saying is that if I change my username to something like 『バカアメリカ人』, then I'll have a better chance of winning because I'll psych-out my opponents?
I use a Japanese name just to freak people out lmao
I made it to S+ but the ranking in this game seems mostly a function of putting in time so far (at least till X battles), like it was matching me with S+ people when I was in B lol.
I kinda want to change my splatfest region to Asia/Oceania just to see what it's like but would be worried about the ping (also it won't let me till next year so lol)
Yeah I've just kinda ignored names for the most part, except for the ones that are funny and I screenshot them to show my friends
It just really sucks because the latency usually sucks way more. I thought we introduced regions to mitigate this??
The stereotype around Japanese players on average being much better in the context of online Nintendo games is a stigma that dates all the way back to like, 2008 MkWii. But it legitimately hasn't been accurate for a long, long time. It was def true at the time (Trust me, I was there), but times have changed.
Masahiro Yashiro the 16 year old Japanese high school student you ran into on solo Q isn't disproportionately likely to be better than you on average anymore. Times have changed, yall.
Man made a 7 minute video just to tell y'all to get good
as an Australian player, i almost always fight JP players due to the distance not being too much and theres almost no one in Australia
Thank you, I've been saying this for forever.
Okay but when i boot up mariokart wii online and everyone is funky kong im not playing
this is so true, thank you for saying this lmao. japanese players are at the top but the average japanese player is just the same as us!
Honestly the first few time where i was playing against other japanese players i was SOOO nervous!! But at the end nothing felt too different and i even won most of the times. These days I dont really mind seeing asian players and the only thing that bothers me is that i cant read their names :D
yeah I really wish I had a way of telling them apart other than "I got splatted by uhh...the JP with uhh...the LONG name...?" or "OK I just took out um...the JP with uhhhhhh.........the equals sign in their name???"
I don't play the game with others often enough to need to know callouts but it'd be cool if I at least could tell them apart at a glance without sounding stupid lol
@@SnoFitzroy needing to know players enough to use call outs is irrevalent. If they need booyahs for their bomb, give multiple if you can. If they splat the player that splatted you, booyah. For me personally I use this specifically as a way to thank them for getting the player that splatted me. If they start booyah-ing at the very beginning of the match for seemingly no reason, join in. It's a morale thing, hypes everyone up and surprisingly effective, even if everything still goes to shit. You don't have to do it but it feels good when you get a booyah back in response.
The problem I have is any time I see Japanese players they are lagging or the latency is terrible. I had matches where I would hit someone with the ink brush enough to kill them and they end up dying after they killed me. It go to the point were I would hit them enough time and then run off just to see I got the kill a few seconds later.
No I won't. Seperate them into a "Japan to Japan" P2P connections.
Hey how do you apologize to other online players for being bad at the game, lol, sometimes I just wanna play for the colors and sounds and dont feel good and thus dont play well but have nothing else to cling to for dopamine. Sometimes I just feel like I drag the team down lol?
I once got into a Japanese lobby, with me being the only person with an english name. The lag was insane, my deaths were delayed, and it downed my gameplay a lot. I believe others here in the west had a similar experience, and gradually over time began the misconception that JP players are naturally better at the game and are unbeatable