The ISSUE with CASUAL and COMPETITIVE in Splatoon 3
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Mine are black with fur inside
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I have the same ones.
My dad has normal black ones and I had some as baby
A lot of people, myself included, are somewhere in the middle of the casual/competitive mindset. We're better than most casuals, but we're not about to devote ALL of our time to a single online game. So, it's difficult to get a match that actually feels good to play in. This can also apply to a lot of online games.
Even though I tried to, I couldn't have said it any better myself. This is exactly where I am too. Especially as a grown ass man who has a life, a girlfriend who also enjoys this game, and responsibilities.
Not only that, my switch library is massive
I just dont got time to go into comp
As someone who gets my ass regularly kicked because I am not good at the game, and just want to play the funny squid game, I want this kind of player filtering so damn bad.
im decent at the game but still want a ranking system. i dont like it when less experienced players throw my team's chances...no offense.
@@XJ9sodypop none taken. It’s no fun when you feel like you’re dragging your team down either.
Planning to quit soon as well since I don't wanna invest my time getting good in a video game. Plus, it sucks to lose everytime you just wanna chill in turf wars. I rather play DOOM Eternal or Team Fortress 2. Sweaty tryhards really ruined the game for me
This is actually why I stopped playing Splat3 altogether despite adoring the series and having such a good time with it. I hated walking into ranked matches and losing (or completely steamrolling) simply because the skill difference between some of the players was so massive that it made for an awful playing experience. I would always just rage because it felt like the course of the match was left completely up to chance. I was thinking about getting back into the game again recently but I guess that issue hasn't been fixed and likely won't be. It's a shame.
Edit: I was just playing the Splatfest because I remembered it was going on this weekend (Weekend of Sept. 8-10) and I legitimately rage quit. Not even playing casually is fun, it's an abhorrent mess of an online system.
You have perfectly summarized the solo q experience
Thank you
Another reason why I’m scared to play ranked 😭
I usually reset my rank and play up until around mid-season which is usually when the casuals drop off because they have the same problem. The matchmaking just gets *too sweaty* I don't blame good players because they deserve to tryhard and play competitively, but just keep them out of MY games. It's the most basic fix as explained in this video but Nintendo are too backwards thinking to implement it.
soloq is either extremely easy games or feeling completely hopeless fr
Also if your like rank A+ but a noobie joins 🙊
I think another issue that makes it even worse is the rank reset system. On paper it's necessary to keep players in check, but why does it bring basically everyone back to the same place (S)??? I even learned this season that high S players don't even go down to A+, so basically it mixes new players who just reached S rank with those who consistently grind to S+9, and players who reached S+50 are still brought to S+0, only a few series away from everyone else. It's no wonder why the matchmaking is so mixed with this awful system, and the beginning of the season has felt extra painful getting both pros and noobs alike in my lobbies basically every match.
The salmon run reset sucks. I hate getting sucked down from somewhere around evp 200-500. Surprisingly the lower ranks are more difficult because let’s just say the teammates are slightly less good than in the higher ranks. It also takes me a whole day to get to those ranks so 999 is unachievable even if I happened to become skilled enough. They need to either make each shift last longer or calm down with the rank resets.
@@13_cmi I see no reason for it not to have checkpoints say every 200 points like in S2
I don't know if this season glitched out or something because I didn't even need a high S ranking to put in S rank at the new season. My score was 432p for S and expected to be deranked to A+ but no, I just stayed!
Turf is ABSOLUTE nightmares!! I play for fun and to get all the clothes, but turf is SO painful with Sweat Lords who love to spawn camp, or teams who only kill and never ink (THE BASIC OBJECTIVE OF TURF WAR)😭
It hurts my soul to be stuck on teams with people that either don't ink and only kill or to be on a team with people that want to half-ass it and help their friends on the opposing team by giving away our positions and by not giving their all. It gets so frustrating that I have to go do something else for a while.
I am completely all for Casual & Comp tags; I hate getting sweaty in pvp because I think it brings out an unhealthy frustration. I play Salmon Run semi-seriously instead because I can’t really get mad at pve and I favor co-op in games whenever I can
I think my biggest concern would be that this reminds me of For Fun and For Glory in the sense that people would play Smash not to fight but to party and be silly around in Free-for-alls; I imagine a Casual tab would have more than a fair amount of squid parties than matches, at least in Turf mainly. Hard to know for sure until Nintendo executes this for real though
As a casual, I haven’t won a single match my whole weekend. And I’m not actually kidding I’m always being put against coordinated teams and I’m ALWAYS solo. This would be so nice to have!
Play Turf war they said, it's a mode for causal players they said, gets put up against someone with a Silver X rank badge
The fact that Zorconic had to describe a basic rank system for a potential new one proves that Splatoon 3’s current one is both horrible and doesn’t exist at the same time
Im a splatoon noob, splatoon 3 being my first one ever a few weeks ago. I decided to finally try ranked for first time tonight after hitting level 20. I played 20 Anarchy open battles and surprisingly was playing really good. My problem is the garbage match making and teammates I was put with. I played all 20 solo and only won 3 losing 11 in a row at one point. And from what it looked like was I only ranking up on wins no matter how much better I was doing than other players? That's gonna drive me insane because I actually play to win and could care less about K/D ratio
The issue with the comp/casual tab is that you know comp players are gonna get sweaty in the casual, causing casual players to leave the game entirely
Thanks for speaking out about this! It’s honestly important to keep the game going competitively for as long as possible while still trying to maintain a casual audience. I also love the orange crocks!!
competitive scene should not be a priority for nintendo. it shouldnt even be a thing. if you wanna be the best shut-in in the world go play fortnite or CoD. dont spread that unwashed culture
The idea of a casual and competitive setting for search is a nice idea…but the problem comes from the comp community vs nintendo, as the views are entirely different
That’s more an issue in smash bros, because Nintendo actually supports splats comp scene.
Hi Mr. Zorconic, I just want to say as a casual player, you inspired me to join comp & pick up sloshers.
I used to play clash blaster because it was broken but I learned my ways.
Aint no way you're baiting on yt now too
wow what amazing growth and character development
@@kalana3380*tee hee*
You ought to learn Slosh Deco. It's cooler, trust.
get that clash blaster away from me I remember I kept dying to one that dang gremlin with crayon gun
I cannot tell you how many times ive taken a break from anarchy, joined turf, and get paired with someone who just booted up the game for the first time. Why am i, level 50+, getting paired with a level one? Times like this i seriously miss s2’s matching system
The fact that Turf War puts teams together randomly means you won't get beaten by the same team comp over and over (unless you're pitted against four well-coordinated players; in that case, they should play Anarchy Open or grassroots competitive instead, damn it!) Though the matchmaking shouldn't keep players in a room between matches; if you end up with a bunch of players who are better than you, you're not likely to win many of the next 15 games.
Turf War's design, as a mode, is great for casual play, though. The decentralized objective rewards you for more than just kill count or map control (which newbies struggle with, to be frank), and the fact that the turf painted is measured only after a set amount of time means that each team has a chance to come out on top at any moment.
That said, narrow maps with lines of chokepoints are horrible for casual play; it means players are punished for not having the optimal compositions. Gem from Squid School made a video about how reducing depth and variety will hurt casual players as much as competitive ones, and as an aspiring gamedev, it's really opened my eyes. Please watch it!
Tbh open is like most of the time "casual". Series and X are competitive. Turf is chaos incarnate.
I agree. Turf and Open seem more casual than Series and X.
Turf is fun. You get to fight with skilled or unskilled people. But in splatoon 2 it wasn’t so fun. It was always filled worth x rank players. And I could only occasionally compete against them. The only x rank dude I remember was an e liter guy that I kept coming across every day. Pretty fun to play with them.
@@13_cmi I remember seeing a lot of skilled players towards the end of Splatoon 2 active lifespan.
Splatoon 3 is still going. They still have to at least fine tune the matchmaking.
@@ShadeKoopaIt's not even the matchmaking. It's that the rank reset puts the majority of players into the same rank. Everyone from S+0 to S+9 is put in S rank. And everyone from S+10 to S+t0 is put in S+0, very close to S rank.
@@syylent Then do X then. X is above series. That's where the dedicated pros play.
I don't know what you expect from Splatoon 3 but your expectations seem rather high.
2:50 This is literally the reason I’m scared to even try out Anarchy for the first time. I didn’t feel like that in S1 or S2, but this game is different and my mindset has changed too. 😕
You hopping into bed with your outdoor crocs on hurt me a bit LOL
Anywho, great video! This really is such a No-Brainer thing to add to Splatoon 3, and the decision to rid of "traditional" League to put it into Anarchy Open is probably one of the most BAFFLING decisions the Dev team has made, and perhaps by snorting enough Hopium, there's still time for them to implement a *real* match-making system.
1 year left, if they don’t add the desired features, I’m actually going to put this game in last place for the series…
Oh my god, thank you for bringing this up! I just got back into Splatoon 3 recently and have been encountering this problem especially in regular Turf War! I keep encountering that one player out of the whole 8 of us that can completely just sweep the entire game in their favor and its been getting demoralizing in regular Turf War of all modes and it ain't even on the "competitive" mode like Anarchy for example. The fact that happens so frequently has been making me ask on what's going through those kinds of player's heads lately.
problem is that X battle DOES have that division system, where players are matched based on power. it's why lower-populated divisions, like under 1500 or over 2500 have a LOT of trouble with getting matches, because there's so few people in these power levels.
One of my biggest hopes for S3 when it was announced was a casual/competitive lobby split. In both S2 and S3 I'm a solid S rank player, but I don't enjoy playing competitively. And because your rank influences matchmaking even in unranked turf lobbies, I'd get put into incredibly competitive lobbies all the time. I usually play for fun, but it's so hard to do that when even in the casual game mode (turf), you have to be playing at the top of your game unless you want to get curb stomped. It was a problem in S2, and an even bigger problem in S3. I've taken several breaks from S3 just because I don't want to need to constantly be at the top of my game, it hurts my enjoyment of one of my favorite game series :(
Not even joking, this game gave one of my friends depression cause she kept losing to sweats and no-lifes, in turf war btw, the "casual" mode.
no life is when win turf war
Honestly I miss old Splatoon like 2 especially the maps, balance between both casual and competive play. Now with Splat 3 they just left the Casual in the dust, the only mode I can enjoy casually now is Salmon Run and Story Mode
Also since we've been complaining about connection issue for years now knowing them they're not gonna fix this anytime soon and may just be something we just have to accept
I'm a mix of casual and competitive
I like to think of myself as a hybrid between casual and competitive, because I do in fact play this game to have fun, but this game also brings out a nasty competitive streak in me... And to make matters worse, I suffer from perfectionism
I think no matter what you do, having little Timmy in a match is unavoidable.
The playerbase is too divided into many different modes and splitting it up even more will make it worse. Most people who bought the game likely only played it for a couple weeks or months and stopped, only returning for events if they feel like it.
Games like Overwatch can get away with it, because it's free, on multiple different platforms and has crossplay. there are just way more people playing.
AND still, even with Skill-based matchmaking that considers your performance and enemy ranks, you still end up with Timmies being matched against absolute chads that don't miss a shot on a regular basis.
All I want is an anarchy mode with no rank whatsoever. I don’t feel like having to try harder than I want to. Even in open you see people using the meta guns a lot
Meta guns are meta because they're versatile and fun to use. Most people want an enjoyable experience when they play, so they would prefer to use something with less drawbacks unless they diehard a really bad weapon, but they don't want to let it go. And weapon choice isn't really that important in soloq. Of course, some weapons are better than others, but what matters more is how good you are with your weapon.
Not having an auto rank down is awful too. I deliberately play reckless when I’m at the rank up level because I don’t have fun in the rank above.
I can definitely see this issue, I’m nowhere near one of the best players but last Wednesday I got paired against Mecha from last resort. We got ko’d but I was able to kill him 2 or 3 times.
Great video Zorco!
I really hope they add the divisions like you said, we already know it feels really healthy from playing SendouQ!
P based honestly. I think this is prob on the larger side of issues, as the barrier of entry is much higher than usual. ProChara can complain about maps all he wants, but sometimes you just wanna vibe and it’s hard to
bruh I always play splatfest open and I be having to fight people with 2763 hours in the game
I had an idea for a competitive casual split, simply, split the maps, if each map has 2 different forms then it could help out both sides, say casual maps could be a little smaller, having heavily protected bases and more gimmicks meanwhile competitive would have larger maps with routes everywhere and less focus on gimmicks (gimmicks wouldn’t count sponges and ink lines those are useful)
Currently I feel like the skill matchmaking hasn't been too bad (for me).
I just want better ping-based matchmaking. I am fine with my friends anywhere on the mainland but there's so many matches someone can just one-shot me, so I assume they're not in Americas. I'm not crazy high power levels, I should be able to match with Americas.
I'm a very casual player that only plays turf war and the occasional salmon run shift, I would love to have split matchmaking honestly, every match I play lately is impossible to win.
I'm a casual and yeah, it did kinda bum me that online keeps making me pit against experienced players. It's not very fun when I see a E liter user with clothes all having Speed boost ability.
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Honestly, in general I just want an option for only going against solo que players without having to risk being wiped by a team that has VC/communication options.
(For both Ranked and Turf War)
Because that seems so unbalanced when I as a casual player can't really communicate with my other solo que mates, but the other team can.
>:" D
i hate when i have to face competirive teams with all those gold badges in a turf war match when im just trying to play a chill game
The real issue is that in Anarchy the players matched together are completely random. You don't have S-Rank lobbies. You have lobbies with players from C to S+. They threw out all match making the previous games had. Ranks mean nothing. Even if they did, the fact people can't rank down from losing is so stupid.
I never knew that Sendou feature was a thing, I honestly want to improve myself but I'm gonna try that one out
As a comp player it's really difficult mostly with how things are now
This video makes good points, but in general I feel like some people overestimate how good they are and tend to blame their teammates for not carrying them. They want the game to give them teammates over their skill level for easier wins, and feel like that's what's holding them back from ranking up altogether.
That's true for some people, but there are definitely a lot of matches where I see my teammates making a completely stupid play, like missing a rainmaker checkpoint, or not shooting clams into an open basket, or just generally being kinda garbage. And often, I'm the one with the most kills and least deaths on my team, which obviously doesn't instantly make me better, but I think it does show a skill gap that shouldn't exist.
Thanks for talking about SendouQ! Atm I feel like there’s not enough lower level competitive players who are aware of it/interested in it and it leads to a pain trying to find matches when I’m in silver and all I can face are either iron or platinum teams 😭😭
And tbh, I wish that League or just a tab to switch from casual to competitive existed because it’s insane how I can get matched up Grey and fuzzy, Kyo and bran while I’m just trying to play some open 😅
Seriously I don’t care what anybody says just add CPUs so levelling up for Sheldon Cards won’t be such a massive slog along with skill balancing options.
I’m probably the upper end of casual. So I don’t enjoy playing with lower end casual players with or against. And I certainly don’t like playing against people in x rank. Occasionally I beat x rankers like they talked back to their mother in good old splatoon 2 turf but I never made it to x rank so I never did it in ranked since ranked is filled with competitive players and fake accounts.
Keeping this video in the back of my mind for reference, been waiting to make my "What I Want In Splatoon 4" video until after updates
2:51 "Easy to get", that is the argument the community has been saying and it is a fucking lie. If only 1% got rank X at the time of Splatoon 2 and people were saying it was easy, it is delusional.
Now in S3 is easier because it is higher (assuming everyone in rank X is S+0 in S2, 1%+6.6%) But still not an easy thing to achieve; I will use Eggstra work and big run, getting 5% top score is not easy, in fact quite hard. 7.6% and 5% are close enough to be consider similar in terms of difficulty, using something objective because my feelings and my personal experience are subjective thus invalid for an accurate representation of what is easy and hard. [1]
3:44 look it is Just S2 Again but with different names. Technically speaking C- has a power too, just shown in a shape of a bar instead of a power; The difference being that to de-rank or rank Up, you needed to get lose 100 points before you could gain 100. [2] [3]
And finally, 4:26 The devs haven't created the Glicko2 system, it was a group of mathematicians; Even Wadsm didn't create a system for SendouQ. Splatoon Devs just need a system that works (different from perfect or even great) and only Nintendo has the data of what is happening in the matchmaking server. SendouQ has prove to feel like an improvement because it indirectly excludes casuals and puts most of the competitive players into a single place. A competitive player will have discord, will have scrim servers and thus more contact with SendouQ compare to a casual that by definition doesnt do Tournaments thus doesnt need to join servers for tourneys and scrims and thus will be less likely to get to SendouQ. Can there be some People in SendouQ now that have never played a tourney? Yes but majority is competitive
Are there problems with this current system? Yes and many of them. However this will not something a new shinny division system will solve.
[1] Side note, use % in Mario maker levels then, Expert levels are around 8%-3% while super Expert has levels with less than 1% then.
[2] S1 Rank system was different and simpler, but i dont know if it was better or worse system.
[3] Read Oatmealdome Glicko2 system to learn more about it
What's also annoying is that you assume Anarchy Open would be good for laid back matches on different modes but it is a nightmare since you always get matched with full stacks, making Series the more "fair" one, and it is also the same even for Splatfest where Open is you vs pre made teams and "Pro" is actually the playable one for solo players.
I think most of the ideas are great and could be really useful for the game, the only one I don’t think would quite work would be the new ranks, there’s a MASSIVE difference between someone who regularly gets 2000xp and someone who regularly gets 2300, and having them in the same lobby wouldn’t really be fair, so maybe smaller differences like 2200/2300
the way the other team consistently protects the rainmaker holder and then when my teammates see me getting it they completely ditch me.. what mindset is that
Bruh this will never hapen, also I think Iam the only one who doesnt think that matchmaking is that Bad, at least outside of Splatfests and sure I get the Occasional numb brain in my team but that basically happens in every game I play no matter if I play the respective ranked ques or not.
I like you Ideas for Improving it though, its just not going to happen.
To avoid the problem for me, is, because I have two mindsets I swap between, if I'm in a casual mindset, I just play turf war, and if I'm in a more competitive mindset, I play anarchy.
God forbid me from playing Salmon Run.
I'm somewhere in the middle of being casual and competitive.
I think something not a lot of people talk about is player density. If you've ever been on A rank or X battles, you've definitely seen the "not enough players" message pop up. The fanbase is already split into turf war, 3 ranked modes and if they are available, challenges, there is just not enough of a playerbase in the west at least to split us even more. While the idea works in concept, how many people go to X rank with a casual mindset? If they're not getting the numbers you're getting it's probably because the game needs to find 8 people at around the same level, and if you actually wanna play they're gonna have to pull in a noticeably better or worse player so a match an actually happen after the 3rd message telling you there's no one playing. I'm pretty sure the idea is that you go to anarchy series to risk your points and actually tryhard, while open is to goof around, win or lose barely a few points, and join with friends if you feel like, then they slapped the league battles' features because they had to go somewhere and a leagues only matchmaking would actually just be terrible
A+ is freaking harder than S
I’m throwing this game in the garbage wasted of fucking 60 dollars
Your garbage
I’m a casual player 😅 I’m just here to have fun 🤩
It's frustrating to be matched against a top 500 X Rank player in Turf War 🫠 Especially if the charger on my team can't aim, the roller is only inking spawn/base and doesn't know how to flick, and the Aerospray keeps on getting killed.
I'm a very hardcore casual player, I play for stress relief and bcs it's genuinely fun :) and I like it that way, very calm and fun, even if Im not improving atleast I know that it helps me be happy (人 •͈ᴗ•͈)
This goes to show that Nintendo doesn't understand anything about online play, and their experience is seriously lacking. Every other company attempts to do it right, granted some systems are absolutely horrible*cough*Apex Legends, but they at least analyse data and know how to create a split. The problem with Splatoon is now the ENTIRE SYSTEM is competitive. Even Turf War has a competitive aspect because you have a hidden MMR. Anarchy Open is competitive and it shouldn't be, why even have MMR in Open when it was supposed to be the casual mode?
Shit like this is why casuals (like myself) keep dropping out of Splatoon mid-season because the matchmaking gets way too fierce and you're not allowed to have fun unless you're doped up on Adderall, 16 cans of Redbull and playing for your life like it's a £200million prize pool tournament. Not everyone wants to play shooters to be their absolute best and sweat at every match. I got burnt out from that with S2. With S3 I just want to frag and chill. I don't want to improve, I want to have fun. I want to play at a somewhat decent level and enjoy the game I paid hard earned money for. Not have to be a pro like DUDE, Kiver or Prochara just to stand a chance at having fun. I work and have responsibilities, I don't have my entire life to dedicate to getting better at a video game.
I would say I am more between casual and competitive, like I want all the weapons at my disposal (I hate sheldon tickets), specific gears (I hate those 3-4 one ability gears), but damn if I don't like winning a turf war and getting petty to earn my stuff. This is the problem I identified, everything revolves around your performance in turf war, salmon run, and during those special splatfests and big runs, your unlocking is faster entirely on whether you win or lose...so for someone wanting to play somewhat competitive but maintain the casual fun in the game, it leaves the game sometimes frustrating to approach. I also notice unlike many players, I don't use the same gear pieces...I literally switch new ones in periodically and in a game geared competitively, wish it was easier to get desired stuff in the game.
It feels like an eternity is taking place to get to where I was in the second installment, like I kicked many teams out as Atlas there but here I find many players now rush to the enemy side before anything else and try to basecamp you the entire match or you get a communication error because of those dedicated nintendo servers that are p2p 🤣. I love this series but I wish it was easier to get the things I want by even a small margin and that certain specials like *cough* the triple splashdown, like wtf is this mess? Then you know they are playing cordinatedly with others when their friends join in, booyah bomb you AND use those darn shield pods, and then those stupid exploding pimples on the battlefield that get spammed periodically, wish they would have done something differently but I do love this game, just wish it didn't end with ten minute penalties for each communication error and a daunting task trying to get 30 more weapons and look they are adding more cosmetic changed ones just with different loadout 🙀😱
DO NOT bring up fortnites new ranking system, lol. That was one of fortnites biggest disasters. Absolute sweats find their ways into lower ranks, and absolute bots find their ways into the highest rank, unreal (only a few thousand have that rank). Not only that, but they removed the previous competitive mode arena, which always worked just fine.
I still agree though with everything you said though. The golden aerosprays speak for themselves. This was probably a bit unnecessary, but I had to say it as a fortnite player lol
I bought Switch month ago and started Splatoon 3 2 days ago which is my first in the series too
Im sorry for being a roller who rolls to paint I didnt know XD
Tho Im still lvl 4 at this point so I cant even buy most of the weapons
and Im not 10 year old by no means I am adult for all it counts XD
But Im going to try a BUCKET and Dual Pistols soon, they seem like fun
i wish i could improve myself while playing casually, obviously everyone wants to win, thats the goal.
but i dont want to fight against people who sweat so much like their family and lover will if they dont win
this happens on both ranked and casual mode. i wish they keept the old "level" system, that was by far much better then what we currently have.
it should never be allowed to have teams fight against no-teamers.
(and before anyone says its not a thing, it pretty much is and has been cofirmed by devs and even ingame, try to play a game with a friend or a squad, its pretty obvious you are not fighting teams)
This doesn’t have to do with the casual/competitive matchmaking, but they also really need to find a way to balance team comps. I’m just using turf as an example here, but how is it fair that the other team happens to get really good turf war weapons, meanwhile my team is made of 3 snipers
Ngl running into super insane players kinda makes me hate the game sometimes. If I'm a modest B+ rank carbon deco main trying out backline for the first time, Im not gonna have fun getting steamrolled by some 1000 hour eliter main running respawn punisher.
This game is literally unplayable for me. Only bought it for online as loved splatoon 2 multiplayer, but the maps were … bland, but the matchmaking killed any enjoyment
I love splatfest because I’m a casual player
Heres a general issue in the game, its how the game "punishes" people with bad internet
I know its annoying but, some cant really get good connection through the online services which nintendo sucks at, but then they say its "your" fault
It clearly isnt and i dont see the point in doing that in the first place, it just makes things more idiotic
I've never had problems with the matchmaking in Splatoon 2.
Splatoon 3 is just ruining the fun.
doesnt fix competitive players trying hard against casual players. the whole reason I stopped playing the game a week after it released (minus the storymode)
I play casually in general because being competitive makes games less fun to me, as it stresses me out. Though it doesn't mean that I'm not trying to better myself and learn how to get better, as well help my team as much as I can.
So, what makes someone a competitive player and how do you become one? (I understand that the video explains that but I just need a more simple explanation)
I just got this game yesterday and was so excited to play. Once I get the game I immediately head into a match right after I’m done with a tutorial and checking out stuff. As soon as I head into a match and keep constantly playing more matches, I start quickly realizing how bullshit this game is most of the time. Like seriously, I don’t think I’ve ever ran into a splatoon 3 match that was actually balanced. Likes it’s not even a joke at this point, I’m not even playing the game most of the time, the only thing I’m playing is the death screen. Every weapon does a crap ton of damage, every player seems to have point blank aim, and no matter how much I try it just doesn’t seem like I can get better. I just wish I could like this game but, how am I suppose to like it if I can’t even have fun, like that’s all I want to do is have fun.
if you want weapons that dont do a lot of damage player undercover brealla
Play salmon run (co-op). The games is fun but the matchmaking, server, map design is horrible.
Bloblobber and tri slosher are easy to use.
Too many toxic and try yards doesn’t make the game fun yall ruin it
tell me u dont know shit about comp splatoon without telling me
There's like 3 types casual, hardcore fans and competitive, now casual does almost everything they can do which is not much but at least they're enjoying themselves, hardcore fans who've been playing for years but are only slowly getting good love playing everything for hours a day turf war only on splatfests ranked and salmon run (and special things like challenges big run eggstrawork) then competitive only play ranked and some salmon run no splatfests and are always winning or losing and analyzing trailers (and playing big run challenges and eggstrawork) oh and probably have a youtube channel
MY opinion and don't bother reading this I didn't pay any attention to writing
Did I even mention the video I was commenting on lol anyway good video!!!!
s+ is the worst it becomes not fun any more. what happens is players win games then get trapped in s+ and cant derank i think if you go into minus digits and after next set your still in minus you drop back to S. the match making is bad too most times im in lobbies with double stacked of a weapon. tower control one team will have 2-3 booyah bombs my team none so its not fair is it? over time tower charge booyah bomb no chance. ... worst game in series i dont play it much anymore when i do get an itch to play im always reminded how bad it is and why i dont touch the game. they can dish out as many weapons as they like content but if the core game is trash its gonna be trash ... rant over.
Its much just getting close to ranking to S plus 0 your met with players that are like X rank or training for a tournament. What's even worst you get teamates that don't know what they are doing for some reason.
I don’t even know what I am.. I haven’t joined comp yet, but I have a little bit of competitive mindset..
first it was a kid or a squid.
now it’s casual or competitive.
W video as always. And nice face reveal on the main channel. You keep going short king
I mean, he has pretty openly face revealed before, even though it’s not been on the main channel, he has also done it on Twitter too
Also agreed, very W vid
I feel like im a combination of both.
I can be competitive and toxic or casual and nice.
Yeah this video is all true, i like to play both , casual and competitive depending on my mood, but i prefer to play competitive because i want to improve at the game, and also just playing turf for casual its just so boring lol, why there is not the competitive game modes just for casuals? Idk , and x rank its just a joke, when i unlocked x battles for the first time i was so hyped to fight excelent players and improve more, but that was a dream , almost all the team mates i get are so looow level they even play the objectives and the enemies win to us in just seconds, same with anarchy series . Now for me there is no difference on them lol.
On series last season i got like -1800 S+0 points lol i cant even got more than S+0 lost after lost after lost.
I just want to improve more at this and i wish to have all the time in the world to play . Also idk why the matchmaking decide to pair me with almost all asian people , i dont have nothing against them but duuude they are incredibly sweaty , im just in south america, i might have the same level as them ? Or something? Well thats my experience. Now im just playing almost turf war because all this problem… btw amazing video 🔥👌
I agree with you. It's not normal to have 21 kills- 7 deaths and lose because my teamates sucks, and do 3kills-7deaths and win because, oh wow i got good teamates so i win even if i play bad in this game. I want to deserve my wins, not be stuck at 2000 xpower because : Oh no, unfortunately i had bad teamate, and not win if i make too many mistakes in a game but my teamates just carry me (that's why i think Xpower means just nothing)
Some people may say even if i win and don't deserve it's okay? Yeah but i just don't improve...
I tought the casual/competitive mode was turf war/anarchy but... NO. When i want to play chill in turfwar, i am just destroy by tryharder who play just perfectly...it's sad.
I played yesterday, and OMG. I played like 25 games, and the 3/4 sucks! I won the half and more, oki guess, but generally, when i won, it's just because of me and my teamates didn't have the same level of me. It's very stressful that when you die, ennemies will probably take the lead... And obviously when i was loosing... But sometimes it's not that my teamates were bad but just don't do the objectives why??? 😥
This probably would be solved if we got a proper League Battle and not whatever fuck challenges are doing.
I subscribed!!! And I agree with ya on this! I have had soooo many losses in turf war over this... and I'm pretty good at the game. Probably a novice or medium level player! You can thank story mode for that... but, because of this, I lose almost all my matches... ugh. But Nintendo doesn't give a fuck. As usual... So bleh... Not to mention the lack of solo options both in the lobby and in the private and local games. It can help players improve too. If it were to get implemented... heck, recon could become a training area for each of these modes with octoling CPUs... like salmon run... and it can be like smash bros in a way for recon. I mean recon ligit means to scope out territory and prepare for battle. Basically a "training" with actual scenarios. 1:04
The squid parties kil me. I wish there was like a lobby or mode for people who want to do that.
Me as a person who try’s to get a b rank and due to my teammates I have always been at c rank,it sucks.
5:04 bro is shooting nothing 🗣🗣🔥‼️‼️
this is why i only play salmon
See the problem I have is that I can’t play ranked because the game put me with little Timmy’s against torment winners
Yeah it'd be way more fair if you were with the torment winners destroying the timmys
@@LDAR I would be in X rank and not stuck in A+
I can see the reason why 😂
@@Squimpis Yeah but would that really be better if you just got carried by players better than you and easily beat 12 year olds? That wouldn't fix anything, it's just your personal frustrations. Also there's no X rank in 3
@@Squimpis Personally I had no trouble getting to S+ so idk. Maybe you're not as good as you think, not in an insulting way. Yeah matchmaking can be annoying but if you truly were X level then you probably wouldn't be stuck in A+, there are no pro players in A+ LOL
Splatoon players just can not be a casual competitor 😭
What if...
There's a Hybrid player :0
They could just make it pretty fucking hard to rank up
Nintendo's Online in a Nutshell but Worse
There's skill-based matchmaking everywhere actually, and it's relatively strict. Try getting a new account to X and you'll see that on your anarchy climb, you'll start facing previously Top 3000/500 players before you hit S rank, which is only possible because Nintendo decided for this game they were going to remove visible ranks from the game. You also don't really know if someone is normally deserving of that skill level and is just trying out a new weapon, is having an off game, or the matchup is just terrible for them.
Games where SBMM is overly strict punish you for exploring new options and learning new weapons by constantly putting you in games where anything but your absolute peak performance is punished heavily. This actually ends up serving the casual audience a lot better than the competitive audience, which is why Call of Duty has among the strictest SBMM around: it swiftly removes anyone who is too good out of lobbies where people want to just relax.
tl;dr there's no good answer to this problem, it's a nuanced issue that will always make someone upset. Even SendouQ is looking to alter using a straight MMR system because it feels bad to lose skill rating when you win, even though that's a necessary evil for probabilistic-based matchmaking rating systems.
I play competitively and I agree to separate the two.
how do you get those insane pictures in the lobby?
This video is amazing! You've done a great job talking about the most common problem of splatoon! You put so much effort in your video's & it makes me happy. Keep up the good work, Zorconic!
Also, you rock these crocs
I genuinely quit 3 because of this issue I am mostly a casual player and don't want to be competitive for this game as I don't see it for this series but it is difficult to enjoy with competitive players just kicking my ass and feel like I hold back my team since I am not that good and atleast with Splatoon 2 the Anarchy battles seems to match my skill level atleast from my experience it feels like I am playing with people around my skill....I truly wish Splatoon 4 has skill based matchmaking and divisions to make the game fair and fun for everyone.
I FUCKING REGRET CHAOS TO WIN