It's known as the "Argumentum ad populum." It doesn't matter how many agree. It matters what they can show to be the case. Flerthers also like using the Hipster fallacy, the idea that they have "secret or forbidden knowledge that _they_ don't want you to have."
@@RustyWalker All they've got are appeals to conspiracy. All it takes is one person to say "nuh uh!" and they cry about how there isn't scientific consensus and it's still up for debate!
Imagine Dave Murphy going to the theatre. The house lights go down, all is in darkness until a single spotlight illuminates a lone figure on the stage. The audience is hushed with anticipation. The actor slowly looks up, takes and breath and then...Dave pipes up and says "We can't see you! We're in darkness and the light is gathered around you! I literally cannot see a thing right now!!!!". The guy next to him turns to him and says, "Your breath stinks of piss, mate."
We have a number of technologies to determine the spin and tilt of earth. The Rotational Motions in Seismology (ROMY) a giant ring laser in Germany that can measure earth spin and tilts to fractions of a degree. We also have atomic clocks, Sagnac effect, etc. Atomic clocks are based on the time dilation principle.
@@Testequip Yeah, even Bob did it in one of their Documentaries with a Builders Ring Gyroscope (Thanks Bob) but then... "I wasn't expecting that result so we'll just Ignore that we proved the Earth is Rotating at 15° per Hour"
I'm still not sure if they are idiots or just very smart of making idiots give them money. I just can't believe that someone who is capable of creating a RUclips channel seriously thinks the earth is flat.
Remember that first day of school? A few kids always asking the weirdest questions, and you see the whole class pondering ; 'he can't be that stupid, right? ' Some people can't handle reality is my guess....
I think it's more about people who feel utterly normal and wish they were special so they join cults and believe conspiracy theories so they feel special!
@@jasonsabbath6996 mainly this, most flat earthers NEED this to be real, for them, if the earth isn't the center of the world it would make them feel worthless and would have to cope with the fact were just small life forms in a large universe.
@@smolpp585 yeah which is odd because as far as we know, the human brain is the most complex structure in the Universe and given all Nature has tried to wipe out life over billions of years, that fact we are here at all is the true miracle.
@Tej my dude, flat earther is synonymous with "gullible idiot" the world over. No one takes it seriously anywhere and the cult is losing believers and leaders constantly. The only interest it provides is exploring the logical fallacies that its members fall for and how people can believe such nonsense.
@Tej Lost, brilliant! So the map that is essential to the functioning of the modern world... got one yet? Until you do, your little delusion lacks anything to make it worth even hosting, let alone ranking in search.
Oh my God a PLASMA MOON? So, let me get this straight: the Moon is local, inside our atmosphere, made of plasma AND emits freeze rays. Is it also made of cheese? Professor R. Foster would laugh in your face, Eric.
Its plasma because it looks so translucent in the daytime sky. And, those airliners flying overhead that look so translucent and you can see the sky right through them? They must be made of plasma too...as well as those mountains in the distance.
Looked at the IMDb page for this, like so many others here. Absolutely legendary. Pure comedy, that page. Also Known As: _Complete Rubbish._ Genres: *Comedy, Fantasy* And the best part of all? Critic reviews: SciManDan analysis
In a high school class we took measurements of a satellite location over a few weeks. We then worked out several equations that would "predict" it location. Over the year all but one fell away as we gathered more information. That one was the one the teacher had printed on the top of the assignment. That really explained so much about the scientific process.
Those "Flat Earthers" really need to go in Grade 1 science class. They have really dumb answers and questions, which I a grade 10 student can answer those things in just 10 seconds.
Excellent start. Having grown up the time of Apollo and doing science projects on how the moon landings travelled, orbited decended and returned to join up with the command modules, I’m proud to see someone debunk and prove truth for those that were not fortunate as I to see it happen in real time. As a professional video editor for 40 years…trust me, we sure as hell didn’t have CGI; colour TV was still in its infancy and we used 2” black and white video tape! Muchly appreciated Dan.
Hahaha. I guess unicorn farts produced the rainbow ejection when the rockety-bit of the lunar-lander tweaker-shelter took off and the camera-man, Mr Sqiggle, panned it taking off up to THE COMMAND MODULE for perfect docking first time every time and staged a descent through the atmosphere to land in the ocean without a single sign of steam, despite having to wait decades for special tiles to be built for re-entry on the shuttle-ship which never even went close to the moon. Cool story bruz. What's that? Black and white you say? And it wasn't fueled with unicorns? Well, I'll be psy-op man damned.
Gotta love how people say "NASA got this and that right the first time". How many rockets went kaboom before they managed to get the first one through the stratosphere? Somewhere between 130 and 140. Imagine if those engineers would have just said: ah, f... this, we'll beat the astronomers into saying that the Earth is flat and our rockets crushed into the dome, which sometimes falls very close to the ground, 'cause God didn't fit His terrarium with a cap that actually fits.
@@chattywalrus8485 And they just ignore the many hours the astronauts spent practising on simulators for the docking manoeuvres and moon landing. They seem to think that the only way they could have trained for the landing was to fly the LEM in earth's atmosphere!
Yeah! "Don't tell me he's actually doing that!" Oh, well, he's been a pilot or an engineer for decades now. It doesn't come easy, though; engineers make mistakes and pilots die attempting those things. I was just watching some Falcon 9, Falcon heavy and SN starships launches, and a Saturn 5 launch for comparison; yeah, that's how you send more than a tiny probe to the Moon! So many people don't realize the kind of pressure NASA was under back in its glory days. Not just the time pressure, which made the engineers building Saturn 5's magnificent Rocketdyne engines leave just their blueprints for their followers and take the engineering intricacies of their actual building to their graves, but pressure from society. You think, just because humanity had barely made it out of WWII, people would sing their astronaut heroes and be all excited at humanity opening its horizons?! Of course not. People were their usual selves, hating and denying accomplishments just as they do today. A large part of the children did get excited, though, they thought humanity was on a path towards greatness; the educational system took off, and a generation of educated, hard working and enthusiastic people came to be. But, in a test of "visionarism" from a SciFi almanac from 40 years ago, do you know who got to be right on humanity's accomplishments over the following decades, with the categories ranging from "incorrigible skeptic" to "Arthur C. Clarke clone"? The "couch bound visionaries" correctly predicted humanity's near future.
Looks to me like that “light bulb” is actually a flashlight. You know... with a parabolic reflector behind the light source designed to direct the light mostly in one direction. Would you have that same “spotlight” effect if the bulb were naked and emitting light in all directions? 🤔
No. Even if the earth were flat. You have clouds, rain, humidity, dirt, smog. Seeing anything past 40miles is only possible in extreme cold or very low humidity. You can check the weather channel and see the visibility for the day. Just my thoughts anyways
I remember thinking that the stars followed me wherever I went and that the sun physically landed on earth. A few times I wanted to go out looking for the sun in the forest, but just remember the adults laughing. It’s kinda sad to think about what flat earthers tell their kids 🤦🏻
I thought the same thing about the sun…. That somewhere on earth you could just go and touch it. I also thought the same thing about the moon and rainbows, and that clouds all formed out of nuclear power plant’s cooling towers (we lived somewhat near one) Kids think some dumb ass shit… most people grow out of that, flat earthers didn’t
"More people are interested in foreskin than they are flat earth", keep up the fight SciManDan! I am a huge fan of your channel. You had me laughing from the start, thanks Bob, lol! I can't wait to see the next part of this video.
I love how the computer guy, showing his face on camera is super nice, actually trying to explain his theories, and right away the narrator steps in with "it doesn't take a genius to see that blablabla" xD
These people literally talk like cave men. They aren't even smart enough to do any experiments to see anything. The sun is a lightbulb with a shade on the top you can see when its dark 🤯
The other thing about that "lightbulb in a dark room" is that that photo shows a LAMP which restricts the light rays, not a BULB which is round-ish and would cast light all around it, not just in one direction.
Another thing that debunks their claim is car headlights.... Even though they’re are focused onto a small patch of road in front of the car. You can still see the car headlight is working from different angles.
I was just having this conversation, ya, a light source that is larger than an object, will always necessarily cast a smaller shadow than that object, simply from the light casting from the edges of the source and skimming the object at an inward angle. And then is the cause of the umbra, penumbra, all that jazz. A single point of light is an invalid analogy.
I’m a professional photographer and I honestly want to scream any time they use a zoom lens to “bring something back over the horizon”. Spending years learning how each lens and sensor works at all ranges for them not to understand the basic concept of, zoom in, it gets bigger
I've yet to come across a flerf who has even the vaguest inkling of optics or photography. All you ever get is out of focus images of some barely discernible object lost in haze or mist, or an equally OOF shaky video, constantly zooming in and out until the viewer is seasick. It would be such a change if just one of them actually took the time to learn how to use their magic P1000.
What I find hilarious is that they think the earth's horizon works the same as the horizon in two-point perspective drawings, and that vanishing into a dot due to angular size and going over the horizon are the same thing. They really have no idea what they are talking about, do they?
That's why Critical Think, while holding a camera in his hands, said that a flat earther could have never invented such a thing, because they do not understand optics. To which Ranty Flat Earth hilariously replied "Oh, fuck off you prick!". Critical Think really touched a nerve there. It was so funny. Also, there was this flat earther who was trying to explain to other flat earthers not to use those star shots taken with out of focus cameras, as evidence of the stars and planets not being what "They" have told us that they are. This flat earther knew his cameras and understood those are being out of focus shots, but do you think the rest of the flat Earth community listened to him? Eric Dubay still uses that argument to this day. Actual expertise in a field is treason in the empire of flat Earth.
As far as I've seen so far, even professional flat earth photographers use P900/P1000 (a camera of choice of not a single real professional photographer in a history) on a complete auto including AF. Or smartphone. Notice how any the very amateur astro photographer takes images of deep space to have 20+ mpx images with plenty of details, desired exposure and manual focus to infinity. While every single flerfer takes 1080p video with AF on, which gives you 2.1 mpx of shit quality, coz you can't get shutter speed less than 1/24th of a sec and AF is always hunting in a complete darkness even on the best cameras. And that's just one example of how fcking retarded they are. And then they claim that any eye-bleeding shit that looks weird on their camera is reality, and every proper image and video taken by professionals with proper equipment is CGI. And ofc artifacts such as flares, reflections etc: when they got 'em, it's real. When any other video got artifacts - it's proof of CGI.
Well if it was searched a lot because people need humor in their lives, then why not show the conspiracy videos of people claiming it instead of creating an artificial algorithm that suggests only mainstream scientists and academia on the top searches.
@@Showzstarz Well, the problem with lying videos is that the more gullible freaking believe them, indoctrination and radicalisation by internet and all that. These big media companies get sick of being blamed for it and rightly too. So you are stuck with truthful videos in searches, gotta get used to it...
@@Xizziano the fact I dont believe the Earth to be flat doesnt mean I dont believe the goverment to lie.. Ofcourse the goverment lies.. Everyone knows this.. To hide secrets and probaly some fucked up experiments they do to animals and maybe people.. Or something dangerous.. But rly flat earth? 😂 Where did it even come from like who started it bc that person has some serious humor or isn't comoletely right in his Head.. Probaly both 😂😂😂
@@Xizziano the government may lie about stuff where they stand to gain. But they gain nothing from flat earth, and they cannot hide the vast amount of scientific and professional evidence about the shape of the world and the nature of the universe. And if a hypothesis heavily relies on a centuries-old, entire-globe conspiracy, then you actually got nothing.
You don't understand...they are projecting an image onto the firmament. Or maybe it's NASA has hacked every telescope you can buy and turned the lens into one of those novelty pens. Or maybe world leaders are solving unemployment by using operatives to fly thousands or millions of small drones around to simulate higher orbit satellites.
Well even if he’s a bizarre con artist he has done some fairly in depth stuff about what he thinks. This documentary isn’t that and was more dude bro vibe because it wasn’t put together by Dubay. It was put together by the white rapper dude ODDtv who’s featured throughout the documentary. Dubay’s stuff isn’t as attention deficit disorder friendly as this one is. He’s the narrator here.
@@SpaceManRD i love they claim google/youtube is "hiding" the flat earth yet they brag about using the same google/youtube to "expose" google trying to "hide the truth"??
I remember when I didnt even have a basic comprehension of basic physics and astronomy. Imagine having such few actual achievements in life that you have to try to convince everyone you know more than lifelong scientists and centuries of scientific advancement.
TBH they're not trying to convince everyone (although they make it seem like that). They're just trying to convince enough stupid people to feel special and make a living.
@@Xizziano Yea but in the modern age, it would be hard to keep the lie straight, since with modern technology, the realms of accurate experimentation and measuring are no longer limited. One thing that always gets me about most conspiracy theories is that they are all like "Big bad empire xyz spends all this time and effort keeping it a secret but me, some random weirdo on the internet, found out the truth!" Now, if one day all the flat earthers go missing and their channels magically deleted then maybe you'll get some sane people believing they have a point. What gets me the most is that most conspiracy theorists go along the lines of "You can't blindly believe everything you're told, except by me!" I dare say some of them believe what they are spewing but I have no doubt in my mind some just do it to make a living, because if people are willing to believe the earth is flat, getting them to watch your videos or part with some money in the name of the cause probably isn't all that hard.
@@Ajial01 it wouldn't be hard if you control the source. You have a misconception about their “secrets”, they're not exactly secret. You the adage “hiding in plain sight”? That's why you can find the truth. That's because most people such as yourself believe it's all B's anyway so why hide it? That's the difference. Theorists don't say don't believe everything you told except by them, they say do your own research and question what you're told. The ones you do have faith in say only believe me.
@@Xizziano Wouldn't it be easier just to actually hide it? You're sort of arguing against yourself there. Its easy to hide it because they control the source but also they don't have to hide it because nobody would believe it? You could argue against anything being true by that logic. Nobody is denying that dogs are just cats in a mechanical suit.
The astronauts were former test pilots and also engineers/scientists. Test pilots are chosen for their unflappable demeanour and engineers are geeks who are usually more introverted than average so they were coincidentally selecting men who wouldn’t gush, emote or be enthusiastic.
@@WitchidWitchid geeks bite heads off chickens? You are obviously using the word geek in a way I am not. EDIT. looked it up in the OED. I am not talking about the US definition as I am not American but even in the US geek=studious person highly skilled with tech and computers is not unknown surely? I suspect you were trying to be clever at my expense for which you get an asshole point
@@molybdomancer195 Personally I don't know why the term "geek" or "nerd" is used to describe smart people, people who are studious or who enjoy scientific or technical topics. Traditionally "geek" or "nerd" meant someone lacking in social skills or socially awkward. Yet most of these types are no less socially adept than anyone else. I understand that somehow the terms somehow managed to stick. Personally I refrain from using them as to me they will always carry a negative connotation. But them I guess I can't expect the world to do everything my way. It to not use a term because I happen not to like it. But anyhow, outside of "geek" your original point point is well taken. For Dubay to argue that they didn't act excited.somehow implies they were lying is ludicrous.. But then, just about everything Dubay says is ludicrous.
I used to be terrified just speaking to a couple of hundred people in church or school or being on a local TV quiz show. I can't imagine how stressful it must be to address Congress and an international TV audience. Some people train for years for PR work and still crack under the stress of talking to an audience like that. But as you say they were mostly test pilots (as Armstrong was) and their default response to stress is to lock down and be like highly-focused precision machines. If that weren't their default response to stress, their careers as test pilots would be very short and tragic.
"As a Tattoo artist", yes, you are obviously MORE than qualified to explain our scientific theory's, lets get all our scientific explanations from him.
My God…as much as I would love to watch this video, Eric Dubay’s smug sense of self satisfaction coupled with that voice will make me break things around the house.
Doubt he even watches them. If he did, he wouldn't be making his. Guy's not interested in learning anything.He's right cause he's right, and he knows he's right cause he's right. That's how they think, lol. He's not but, he convinced himself he is, IF he actually believes what he's saying, which I'm not sure about. I think 1/2 of them lie. They just make videos to get views. It's so ridiculous people will watch it. It's like watching a guy jump off a building or something. 'Guy's an idiot, I need to see it.'
I can't believe he actually put a crepuscular rays segment immediately after a segment on the perspective argument. It's almost like when he was writing the script for one it reminded him of the counterpoint for the other.
The crepuscular ray argument can be tested by two people measuring the angle from north of shadows of sticks simultaneously a few miles apart from each other.
Dan, can you please ask them why the sun is floating and rotating? What makes it fly? What is its mean of locomotion? Ireally need to know what they have to say to that.
Things that of course are more easily answered by the earth being spherical and space being a real thing. They have to invent any explanations for reasons why this occurs, which never seems to work out in their favor for some inexplicable reason. When in doubt leave it blank I guess.
Man, every time they show overexposed videos of the sun appearing huge in the frame, then it "shrinks" as it gets darker, because the exposure is now correct, I get so angry, because while a camera can be used to lie about that, our freaking eyes actually see the fact that the apparent size of the sun does not change.
That's what happens when you start to think that everything that has been told to you is a lie just _because_... _"They lied about space, they must have lied about drinking pee and eating poo - Tomorrow: Drano, the delicious lie!"_
My favorite part whas when they rolled out their ace in the hole, Johnny Giampapa, the tattoo artist. And he wanted to see people in Australia upside down. Comedy Gold.
It's more and more hilarious each time I hear it. Like, it's a joke that Australia is "upside down" so much so that it's a meme, but these morons literally are like "Take pictures of the upside down people!" Like... they just don't understand how "down" and "south" are not the same thing. They literally think that the oceans should be dripping off the Earth like a wet tennis ball, and it's just so adorably stupid that you have to laugh.
HIs argument reminded me of the guy that asked for a Spy satellite to shoot an image of the equator where the skyscrapers stick out straight to the sides. Do they think such cameras can be freely positioned at whatever location and distance we want? Where would you even go to to make it clear it's both the Earth "the right side up" AND Australia with a single person swimming "head over/under" ??? As soon as you zoom in to try and see a swimmer or walker on the beach... you loose any indication of the orientation of earth, so the photo would be meaningless.
I thought it was utterly hilarious when he referred to himself as a "tattooer." I know at least 14 people who give people tattoos professionally for a living, and I have talked to several others. Literally NONE of them call themselves "tattooers." They are tattoo artists. A "tattooer" is not a thing (even my spellcheck is freaking out over the word). If the guy can't even get the name of his own profession right, how am I supposed to take him seriously about anything else?
@@AnimeOtakuDrew Apparently tattooer is a word. I haven't heard anyone use it. I was thinking maybe a tattooer was somebody who took part in a military tattoo (see "Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo" on RUclips for those that don't know what that is).
@testing 22.1 to 24.5 degrees means a total range of 2.4 degrees. Each degree of latitude is approximately 69 mile or 111 kilometers, meaning that 2.4 degrees is only 165.6 miles or 266.4 km difference in position. Also, this movement happens gradually throughout the year. When you look at how far away Polaris is (430 light years), such a small shift in angle is imperceptible to human eyes, especially since it is happening so slowly. If you were to take the highest resolution photo possible of Polaris at maximum zoom when the tilt is at its lowest angle, then take another photo of equal resolution when the tilt is at it greatest angle, then have those photos compared against each other by the most sensitive image analysis software out there, you MIGHT find a difference that is detectable to the computer. Just because it's not visible to your eyes doesn't mean it's not real. Do you also doubt the existence of the oxygen we breathe? Can't see it after all. Science has proven that it's there, but you don't believe in scientific proof. Prove to me, without science, that oxygen exists. For that matter, prove to me (again, without science) that we even NEED oxygen. See, the same scientific processes made ALL of our discoveries, so you either have to acknowledge that science works--which means acknowledging the things it has discovered or proven unless or until you can PROVE those findings are incorrect in a way that others can repeat (and rhetoric does not constitute proof, as so many flat earthers fail to realize)--OR you have to dismiss ALL of science because it is a flawed system. Science isn't a buffet line where you get to choose only the things that you think taste good; if you believe science works, then you have to accept all the things proven by it, and if you think it DOESN'T work, you need to reject everything based on it. It's that simple. You're right though, we don't live on a "spinning ball;" we live on an oblate spheroid that slowly rotates a constant and comfortable rate of 15% per hour or one full rotation every 24 hours. "Spin" implies a much higher rate of rotation (more akin to the idiot experiment of spinning a ball in the air to see if water sticks to it--I call this the idiot experiment because the only conclusion that can be drawn from the experiment is that any person using it to determine whether the oceans would stay on the Earth's surface is an idiot), and "ball" usually implies that the object in question is actually spherical. Of course, I honestly believe many flat earthers are fully aware of all the facts I covered here but choose to overlook them because nobody would take them seriously and watch their videos if they stated facts that disprove the point they're trying to make. If you wanted to make a video to convince people that clouds are made out of cotton candy, you wouldn't include an explanation of how water vapor condenses around microparticles in the atmosphere and adheres together in visible clusters; you don't get views by disproving your own argument. So flat earthers omit inconvenient facts. Simple as that.
12:49 - I'm sure it was talked about more on the original video, but, I love that Dubay's "proof" of a "flat earth sun" is the most doctored video on the "documentary"... Has he every actually WATCHED a sunset? wow
That's their answer for everything. "It's fake, clearly CGI" Too bad they didn't CGI that glass of piss out of Dave's hand. I have no idea why they think someone who CHOOSES to drink his own piss would help them change peoples' minds, but I'm glad they did.
Why would you want a picture of an upside down city anyway? Anyone can take one, lmao. Turn the camera upside down and take a picture. It's simple. That would prove nothing. Take a normal picture of yourself, and turn it upside down, lol. It's the same thing. You'll be upside down, lol. What else would you be? You turned the picture upside down. I mean I feel like this is simple, lol.
I can't believe someone actually commissioned this nonsense. What on round earth they were thinking?? Yoga teacher, pi55 drinker, tattoo artist and some unknown wash outs...some scientific brain between them? None. And flerfs debunking themselves? Thanks Bob. And Phuket 🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣Great video. Was waiting for this. Very amusing.
Man ... Kudos for watching that all ... I can only take 1-2 minutes of ED at a time before I need to go punch myself in the junk to distract from the throbbing pain in my head due to his actual, literal, stupidity.
True. The hubris, stupidity, dishonesty, and ignorance drive me up the wall. Kudos to Dan who has the patience to deal with this crap and not lose his sanity.
Something that just hit me: if they say the sun acts like a directional light (torchlight) to explain days/nights, not only should the angular size diminish, the shape also must change from a circle, into a shrinking oval then a thin line before vanishing as demonstrated by their self-debunking flash light experiment. Is it possible to have below zero critical thinking in a human on a scale of 0-100? I think they show it is possible.
The fat earth sun is difficult to explain. I know little about it. What got me on this topic though, is I saw a perpendicular sun when I was in Hawaii. When no shadows are present. However on the same day I observed at 10am the shadow was south East slightly. And at 2pm the shadow was south west, slightly. If you have the sun directly over head during that time of year, I would of suspected the shadows to be exactly due west and east. Not south at all.. and now here I Amex trolling dumb RUclips vids and comments trying to find answers to something that seems to be very controversial.
Just for fun I've been trying to explain sunrise and sunset on a flat earth model and just can't work out how to do it, couple that with timezones and I think that is all you need to prove a globe. Both things of course that any American flat earther can prove for themselves
@@nxh2897 a swinging pendulum proves the earth is a globe in infinite vacuum? What crack are you smoking - there isn't even an accepted theory of gravity in mainstream science as Einstein was recently debunked by an Irish physicist. Learn science idiot
NASA: "Right, we are going to fake a space walk with our immense budget for CGI" CGI artist: "SIR, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO REMOVE THE AIR BUBBLES OR THAT RAT THAT WE COULDN'T CATCH YESTERDAY" Sounds legit.
Well my best friend is a Yoga instructor and also has a degree in Astrophysics. So some are. But then again she isn’t a total numpty who thinks the world is flat.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 I mean Kinesiology is a thing, and there are some observable benefits to certain stretches. Also just moving your body is generally good for you, but as a spiritual wellness/ magic/ chakra boosting tool it is complete BS.
Tried watching the original but only got five minutes in before the open bs got to me - thanks for doing this amazing task - looking forward to all three videos.
I can't find the source material at the link, followed it and it stated "Video Unavailable", oh well, another one bites the dust. Keep up the good work.
Considering the size of the sun's position, I wonder if she was also experiencing the Aurora Borealis, at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, localized entirely within her kitchen.
"All they'd have to do to prove it is (insert whatever) but they'll never do it" Insert it being done "Well that's obviously fake because it can't be done and they only pretended to do it to deceive people that asked about it"
I mean seriously.. that tattoo guy's idea is so ridiculous.. they would just claim that they showed the image upside down.. how can that prove anything ? so dumb its scary
13:00 Ever been in a train, sitting in the station. Looking outside the window you can see another train on the next track. Then you see the train moving. Until you realize, that your train is moving? (Yes, modern trains can accelerate so smoothly that you can't feel it)
"They just need to show a photograph of someone swiming upsidedown" and yet THEY just have to show a photograph of the edge of the earth, or the glass container keeping the atmosphere.... oh, and moon phases still don't work on a flat earth. Also, i'd like to see this oh-so-convenient lampshade they all seem to believe exist on the sun (how do they say again? ah! "that's stoooopid").
"They just need to show a photograph of someone swiming upsidedown" That one really got me. Do they actually think that those of us in the southern hemisphere are upside down? How f'ing staupid is this guy?
I'm still waiting for them to provide an explanation for solar and ESPECIALLY lunar eclipses. I've asked them on their discord servers and all I got was a "idk buddy" and a permaban lol
@@HatstandTuesday I could do that on Earth. In the northern hemisphere. Just flip the fucking camera over. BOOM! Moron's too stupid to know that north is not inherently up.
@@heavyecho1 I ended up not getting a tattoo the other day,, because the guy that was here and installed our dishwasher didn't have time. Or any needles... or dyes... Or patterns in a book I could look at... Or....
17:55 wow Allegidly Dave is right. Ive never seen steetlights before I walk into the cone of light directly underneath it. It always gives me a right scare when those pesky streetlamp lightbulbs just pop into existence!
I've never heard a tone of voice that was so passively arrogant in my entire life. I don't understand how anyone could have sat through one long enough to become gaslit. Keep doing what you do, Dan. Sagan knows, we need it.
"They should use a satellite to zoom in on a car in Australia". Yeah, thats called Google Earth. You know, the same "fake satellite" flat earther use to get maps to prove its fake lol.
You forget they would simply shout "CGI" as soon we show them the image. I also like the amount of CGI in a video that claims that all NASA content is CGI.
and for those who know their history of astronomy - that is exactly what led to all the controversy over Martian canals (plus the Italian mis-translation of 'channels').
@@chloewright1 I checked out Dubay's channel, finally, about a week ago. And yes, I only got about 2 or 3 videos in before I had to quit because I could not deal with the condescending tone. That, and the fact that literally everything he was saying was bullshit. What left me the most unsettled though was his comments sections. It's *very* disturbing how "beloved" he is by his people. The best way I can describe it, all kidding aside, is cult-like. After all, he purports to be revealing for them "hidden truths" no one else will. What other definition is there of a cult leader...?
@@blowc1612 Just bear in mind that he is displaying his ignorance every time.he opens his piehole. He has yet to offer any proof for his flat earth claims. All his arguments are are. Incoherent speculation and conjecture.
For that sun one I want to also point out that flashlights are different from suns. A flashlight shines light in one direction because the bulb is only exposed on one side. A sun is more of the equivalent of a lightbulb. No side is covered so the light shines in all directions.
Perspective - should show the clip from Top Secret!, where Val is on the train at the station and the train moves away...then we notice the ground isn't moving, and it was in fact the Station moving away from the train.
Please don't stop using "a 15 degree per hour drift" and "thanks Bob". Makes me literally laugh out loud every time.
It will never get old.
One of flat earth's greatest self-debunks, it remains hilariously funny no matter how often I see it. ^^
I agree, PLEASE don't stop using that line and clip!!! It gets me rolling every time.
Thanks Bob! :D
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Things I will never grow tired of:
Good beer
Hot relaxing baths
The sound of my cat purring
Bob saying "A 15 degree per hour drift".
You left out inflatable bananas
😅😅
Bob saying "A 15 degree per hour drift". - followed by "Thanks Bob"
For me it’s „interesting!“ when he saw the light becoming visible again…..
Thanks Bob
'Many agree', 'how many, 6?'
That's gold right there.
It's known as the "Argumentum ad populum." It doesn't matter how many agree. It matters what they can show to be the case. Flerthers also like using the Hipster fallacy, the idea that they have "secret or forbidden knowledge that _they_ don't want you to have."
@@RustyWalker Oooh the terrible "They". LOL
@@RustyWalker All they've got are appeals to conspiracy. All it takes is one person to say "nuh uh!" and they cry about how there isn't scientific consensus and it's still up for debate!
It's like when a kid want a toy "all other kids" have. When you ask who, it's usually only a couple.
ha.. ha.. this video suckkkked.
18:57 I love how they use a lamp that the source is intentionally just showing a focused light. I have a actual bulb and it lights up my whole room.
Imagine Dave Murphy going to the theatre. The house lights go down, all is in darkness until a single spotlight illuminates a lone figure on the stage. The audience is hushed with anticipation. The actor slowly looks up, takes and breath and then...Dave pipes up and says "We can't see you! We're in darkness and the light is gathered around you! I literally cannot see a thing right now!!!!". The guy next to him turns to him and says, "Your breath stinks of piss, mate."
Dammit you beat me to the "Your breath stinks of piss, mate"
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Ngl thought you were describing the Mr Bean intro
I have already forgot the laugh I had when he explained this, thank you for bringing it back :D
Dave Murphy walks into a bar
Barman realises who it is , shakes his head and shouts PISS OFF
Dave says ok, I'll have a lager.
“There has never been any experiments proving the rotation of the earth.”
Ohhh I was sooo expecting the jodel there.
I was expecting Bob and the 15 degree per hour drift. Thanks Bob.
@@sanytram1 Yeah,
but like all Experiments that have repeatable result that doesn't fit Flat Earth, just ignore it & tell people it never happened
Thanks Bob
We have a number of technologies to determine the spin and tilt of earth. The Rotational Motions in Seismology (ROMY) a giant ring laser in Germany that can measure earth spin and tilts to fractions of a degree.
We also have atomic clocks, Sagnac effect, etc. Atomic clocks are based on the time dilation principle.
@@Testequip Yeah, even Bob did it in one of their Documentaries with a Builders Ring Gyroscope (Thanks Bob) but then...
"I wasn't expecting that result so we'll just Ignore that we proved the Earth is Rotating at 15° per Hour"
The best "flat earth documentary" is Beyond the Curve. It was so gloriously embarrassing for all of them
It's the highest quality too, adds extra fuel to the dumpster fure
I highly agree !!
I love that Mark Sargent’s Mum is so supportive of his life choices.
@@mihael64because it was Netflix. Decent budget.
@@talandelana6873 yeah
Its a good start tho, but guys, please never foreget that Matt Powell Has a giant Inflatable Banana in His Back Yard Which he Calls Dr. Peel
Someone got Scott Manley to say this on a live stream the other day and he was totally oblivious 😂
@@PokemonRangerGrant but does Matt Powell / Dr Peel fly safe?
Also do you know which stream it was?
@@craigpoole9218 I think it was Part 3 of his LEGO Space Shuttle build.
I have heard that Irritated Powell Syndrome may or may not be treated by having a inflatable banana in Matt Powell's backyard who he calls Dr. Peel.
Can't I've heard that hundreds of times.
This video being uploaded is the moment we’ve all been waiting for.
SciManDan I wish you luck, as they say, "It's difficult to argue with a genius but impossible to argue with an idiot"
And That is a scientific fact!
well idiots do think the earth is round
@@Xizziano lmao
@Captain Bruh nope, truth
I'm still not sure if they are idiots or just very smart of making idiots give them money. I just can't believe that someone who is capable of creating a RUclips channel seriously thinks the earth is flat.
"That's Dave Murphy, he drinks urine"... Sums up the whole flat Earth documentary in that one sentence right there.
Taking the piss out of yourself. Flattards do it all the time when they speak.
lol
Drinks piss and talks shit... how has he managed that? Probably craps vomit?
@@monkeyslovewand And eats from his p*n1$
It does.. that's depressing
Remember that first day of school? A few kids always asking the weirdest questions, and you see the whole class pondering ; 'he can't be that stupid, right? '
Some people can't handle reality is my guess....
I think it's more about people who feel utterly normal and wish they were special so they join cults and believe conspiracy theories so they feel special!
@@jasonsabbath6996 mainly this, most flat earthers NEED this to be real, for them, if the earth isn't the center of the world it would make them feel worthless and would have to cope with the fact were just small life forms in a large universe.
@@smolpp585 yeah which is odd because as far as we know, the human brain is the most complex structure in the Universe and given all Nature has tried to wipe out life over billions of years, that fact we are here at all is the true miracle.
Some people even seem to have misunderstood that as a challenge?
I don't know why I laughed so hard at that. Fuck, but the image it conjured was hilarious. When juvenile curiosity beats the brain into submission 😂😂?
"Google was panicking about all the flat earth videos on their platform...
...and yet still allowed them to prosper on their platform"
@Tej - hee hee you so funny
@Tej my dude, flat earther is synonymous with "gullible idiot" the world over. No one takes it seriously anywhere and the cult is losing believers and leaders constantly. The only interest it provides is exploring the logical fallacies that its members fall for and how people can believe such nonsense.
@Tej Lost, brilliant! So the map that is essential to the functioning of the modern world... got one yet? Until you do, your little delusion lacks anything to make it worth even hosting, let alone ranking in search.
@Tej Contrary to you, I am not defined by what shape I "believe" in. Not that you can refute the globe earth.
Censorship isn't all that persuasive to the ignorant, and It's not hard to see why.
6:54 "there's never been one experiment that proves that the earth is in motion"
Bob : *sweats profusely*
Thanks Bob! :D
Thanks Bob 😁
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Thanks Bob! :D
@@DannyFPV7 rubbish
"The universe has no obligation to make sense to you", same for the heliocentric model to flat earthers
Did you just quote Overwatch?
On the IMDB page for Level, this video is now a Critic review.
I may or not have something to do with it... 😼
Lol it's actually there.
Found it. Nobody's watching it..
Somebody also listed the video as "comedy" and "fantasy" 😂
The "thanks Bob" Joke always cracks me up haha, pls never stop using it Dan.
I cringe hard at that "documentary", and applaud you for taking it on in such a light-hearted manner. You are a far more patient man than I am.
Yeah , but it’s debatable as to you being a man😂😂😂
@@jindalee4471 Who shat in your cereal?
Just the intro gave me headache. ScimanDan is a legend for even finishing thr whole thing.
@@jindalee4471 I mean, you laughed at your own joke.
@@jonnylake3rd no their laughing faces to show how ridiculous this guys comment was. We have to spell everything out to you guys 😂😂😂
"Just like we can triangulate the distance to the end of those train tracks" might have been one of the best comebacks I've ever heard
Never stop the "Thanks Bob" bit. It's a hallmark of the channel and great fun to boot.
Oh my God a PLASMA MOON? So, let me get this straight: the Moon is local, inside our atmosphere, made of plasma AND emits freeze rays. Is it also made of cheese? Professor R. Foster would laugh in your face, Eric.
No one said its made of cheese, don't be ridiculous, only cats can hang down from the ceiling.
@@gettygermany 😮 are there cats on the dark side of the Moon?
@@fostena There is no dark side of the moon, only Zuul!
@@gettygermany OMG
Its plasma because it looks so translucent in the daytime sky. And, those airliners flying overhead that look so translucent and you can see the sky right through them? They must be made of plasma too...as well as those mountains in the distance.
Looked at the IMDb page for this, like so many others here. Absolutely legendary. Pure comedy, that page.
Also Known As: _Complete Rubbish._
Genres: *Comedy, Fantasy*
And the best part of all?
Critic reviews: SciManDan analysis
Are you serious?
@@warbrain1053 Lol yeah, go see for yourself
@@o9arceneaux i will!
🐮
Checked, it is more like Comedy, History, top review is a 1/10. Sadly sci-man dan is not the critic
In a high school class we took measurements of a satellite location over a few weeks. We then worked out several equations that would "predict" it location. Over the year all but one fell away as we gathered more information. That one was the one the teacher had printed on the top of the assignment. That really explained so much about the scientific process.
Those "Flat Earthers" really need to go in Grade 1 science class. They have really dumb answers and questions, which I a grade 10 student can answer those things in just 10 seconds.
Excellent start. Having grown up the time of Apollo and doing science projects on how the moon landings travelled, orbited decended and returned to join up with the command modules, I’m proud to see someone debunk and prove truth for those that were not fortunate as I to see it happen in real time. As a professional video editor for 40 years…trust me, we sure as hell didn’t have CGI; colour TV was still in its infancy and we used 2” black and white video tape! Muchly appreciated Dan.
Hahaha. I guess unicorn farts produced the rainbow ejection when the rockety-bit of the lunar-lander tweaker-shelter took off and the camera-man, Mr Sqiggle, panned it taking off up to THE COMMAND MODULE for perfect docking first time every time and staged a descent through the atmosphere to land in the ocean without a single sign of steam, despite having to wait decades for special tiles to be built for re-entry on the shuttle-ship which never even went close to the moon. Cool story bruz. What's that? Black and white you say? And it wasn't fueled with unicorns? Well, I'll be psy-op man damned.
@@IronHorse1722 So, just incredulity then?
Gotta love how people say "NASA got this and that right the first time". How many rockets went kaboom before they managed to get the first one through the stratosphere? Somewhere between 130 and 140. Imagine if those engineers would have just said: ah, f... this, we'll beat the astronomers into saying that the Earth is flat and our rockets crushed into the dome, which sometimes falls very close to the ground, 'cause God didn't fit His terrarium with a cap that actually fits.
@@chattywalrus8485 And they just ignore the many hours the astronauts spent practising on simulators for the docking manoeuvres and moon landing. They seem to think that the only way they could have trained for the landing was to fly the LEM in earth's atmosphere!
Yeah! "Don't tell me he's actually doing that!" Oh, well, he's been a pilot or an engineer for decades now. It doesn't come easy, though; engineers make mistakes and pilots die attempting those things. I was just watching some Falcon 9, Falcon heavy and SN starships launches, and a Saturn 5 launch for comparison; yeah, that's how you send more than a tiny probe to the Moon! So many people don't realize the kind of pressure NASA was under back in its glory days. Not just the time pressure, which made the engineers building Saturn 5's magnificent Rocketdyne engines leave just their blueprints for their followers and take the engineering intricacies of their actual building to their graves, but pressure from society. You think, just because humanity had barely made it out of WWII, people would sing their astronaut heroes and be all excited at humanity opening its horizons?! Of course not. People were their usual selves, hating and denying accomplishments just as they do today. A large part of the children did get excited, though, they thought humanity was on a path towards greatness; the educational system took off, and a generation of educated, hard working and enthusiastic people came to be. But, in a test of "visionarism" from a SciFi almanac from 40 years ago, do you know who got to be right on humanity's accomplishments over the following decades, with the categories ranging from "incorrigible skeptic" to "Arthur C. Clarke clone"? The "couch bound visionaries" correctly predicted humanity's near future.
Looks to me like that “light bulb” is actually a flashlight. You know... with a parabolic reflector behind the light source designed to direct the light mostly in one direction. Would you have that same “spotlight” effect if the bulb were naked and emitting light in all directions? 🤔
No. Even if the earth were flat. You have clouds, rain, humidity, dirt, smog. Seeing anything past 40miles is only possible in extreme cold or very low humidity. You can check the weather channel and see the visibility for the day. Just my thoughts anyways
If the sun had any reflector it would be seen as elliptic when it would sunrise or sunset xD
How they wreck their own models immediately is epic
It gives me to end of joy to think of the flat earthers spitting with rage when they see this video.
I remember thinking that the stars followed me wherever I went and that the sun physically landed on earth. A few times I wanted to go out looking for the sun in the forest, but just remember the adults laughing. It’s kinda sad to think about what flat earthers tell their kids 🤦🏻
I thought the same thing about the sun…. That somewhere on earth you could just go and touch it.
I also thought the same thing about the moon and rainbows, and that clouds all formed out of nuclear power plant’s cooling towers (we lived somewhat near one)
Kids think some dumb ass shit… most people grow out of that, flat earthers didn’t
I would just like to encourage everyone to head over to IMDB and leave an honest review on this "documentary".
If a Dr. said it, it's probably important.
properly classified as comedy, lol
So...you managed to escape.
Beware,Matt is still looking for you.
Oh I did already and it’s there.
@@redensantos7210 Well, if you want to change the classification from Fantasy, be my guest!
"More people are interested in foreskin than they are flat earth", keep up the fight SciManDan! I am a huge fan of your channel. You had me laughing from the start, thanks Bob, lol! I can't wait to see the next part of this video.
I love how the computer guy, showing his face on camera is super nice, actually trying to explain his theories, and right away the narrator steps in with "it doesn't take a genius to see that blablabla" xD
"For more information on our groundbreaking astronomy work, here's some tattoo artist."
ikrr xDDDD
Next up we'll get experimental data from a waitress
@@etherealessence hahahaha
Imagine they just agree with him because they fear he’ll fuck up their tattoos if they don’t?
These people literally talk like cave men. They aren't even smart enough to do any experiments to see anything. The sun is a lightbulb with a shade on the top you can see when its dark 🤯
“Oh there’s flat earth millionaire....he owes me $200,000 dollars.” Loool. That made me legit lol.
The other thing about that "lightbulb in a dark room" is that that photo shows a LAMP which restricts the light rays, not a BULB which is round-ish and would cast light all around it, not just in one direction.
They really said light bulb and used a lantern 😭 and also showed it with no shame like...
Another thing that debunks their claim is car headlights.... Even though they’re are focused onto a small patch of road in front of the car. You can still see the car headlight is working from different angles.
And if the earth is 4.5 Billion years old, who invented the lightbulb and put it up there. And who changes the bulb when it blows.
@@thesilent_gamer5137 Bulb Knodel. Thanks Bulb.
I was just having this conversation, ya, a light source that is larger than an object, will always necessarily cast a smaller shadow than that object, simply from the light casting from the edges of the source and skimming the object at an inward angle. And then is the cause of the umbra, penumbra, all that jazz. A single point of light is an invalid analogy.
28:00 I see the Astronaut talking about a great achivement of mankind. Next sentence: As a Tatooer. Jesus I laughed so hard
😂🤗
I like the "lightbulb" over a table experiment that is clearly a freaking flashlight.
I’m a professional photographer and I honestly want to scream any time they use a zoom lens to “bring something back over the horizon”. Spending years learning how each lens and sensor works at all ranges for them not to understand the basic concept of, zoom in, it gets bigger
I've yet to come across a flerf who has even the vaguest inkling of optics or photography. All you ever get is out of focus images of some barely discernible object lost in haze or mist, or an equally OOF shaky video, constantly zooming in and out until the viewer is seasick. It would be such a change if just one of them actually took the time to learn how to use their magic P1000.
What I find hilarious is that they think the earth's horizon works the same as the horizon in two-point perspective drawings, and that vanishing into a dot due to angular size and going over the horizon are the same thing. They really have no idea what they are talking about, do they?
That's why Critical Think, while holding a camera in his hands, said that a flat earther could have never invented such a thing, because they do not understand optics. To which Ranty Flat Earth hilariously replied "Oh, fuck off you prick!". Critical Think really touched a nerve there. It was so funny.
Also, there was this flat earther who was trying to explain to other flat earthers not to use those star shots taken with out of focus cameras, as evidence of the stars and planets not being what "They" have told us that they are. This flat earther knew his cameras and understood those are being out of focus shots, but do you think the rest of the flat Earth community listened to him? Eric Dubay still uses that argument to this day. Actual expertise in a field is treason in the empire of flat Earth.
@@Angel-nl1hp True! but Matt Powell Has an Inflatable Banana in His Back Yard Which he Calls Dr. Peel
As far as I've seen so far, even professional flat earth photographers use P900/P1000 (a camera of choice of not a single real professional photographer in a history) on a complete auto including AF. Or smartphone. Notice how any the very amateur astro photographer takes images of deep space to have 20+ mpx images with plenty of details, desired exposure and manual focus to infinity. While every single flerfer takes 1080p video with AF on, which gives you 2.1 mpx of shit quality, coz you can't get shutter speed less than 1/24th of a sec and AF is always hunting in a complete darkness even on the best cameras. And that's just one example of how fcking retarded they are. And then they claim that any eye-bleeding shit that looks weird on their camera is reality, and every proper image and video taken by professionals with proper equipment is CGI. And ofc artifacts such as flares, reflections etc: when they got 'em, it's real. When any other video got artifacts - it's proof of CGI.
Flat earth was searched a lot because we needed some serious humor in our lives!
Well if it was searched a lot because people need humor in their lives, then why not show the conspiracy videos of people claiming it instead of creating an artificial algorithm that suggests only mainstream scientists and academia on the top searches.
People who believe their gov't doesn't lie to them makes me laugh
@@Showzstarz Well, the problem with lying videos is that the more gullible freaking believe them, indoctrination and radicalisation by internet and all that. These big media companies get sick of being blamed for it and rightly too. So you are stuck with truthful videos in searches, gotta get used to it...
@@Xizziano the fact I dont believe the Earth to be flat doesnt mean I dont believe the goverment to lie.. Ofcourse the goverment lies.. Everyone knows this.. To hide secrets and probaly some fucked up experiments they do to animals and maybe people.. Or something dangerous.. But rly flat earth? 😂 Where did it even come from like who started it bc that person has some serious humor or isn't comoletely right in his Head.. Probaly both 😂😂😂
@@Xizziano the government may lie about stuff where they stand to gain. But they gain nothing from flat earth, and they cannot hide the vast amount of scientific and professional evidence about the shape of the world and the nature of the universe. And if a hypothesis heavily relies on a centuries-old, entire-globe conspiracy, then you actually got nothing.
"There's nothing up there, it's all filmed here on earth" - you can literally buy a £50 telescope, track the ISS and satelites and see them yourself 😂
Flerfs cant think that far.
You don't understand...they are projecting an image onto the firmament. Or maybe it's NASA has hacked every telescope you can buy and turned the lens into one of those novelty pens. Or maybe world leaders are solving unemployment by using operatives to fly thousands or millions of small drones around to simulate higher orbit satellites.
@@StViers Pls shut up. You oxygen thieving troll.
@@nicok.1491 you seem like a very pleasant person with great conversational skills...
@@nicok.1491 you shut up , he was being sarcastic , kinda feeling sad for you coz you cant even understand basic sarcasm
I loved the XKCD comic when Dan was talking about spectroscopes. Randall Munroe is such a legend
I love how Dubay's attempt at 'debunking' anything is to play laugh tracks over it
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Well even if he’s a bizarre con artist he has done some fairly in depth stuff about what he thinks. This documentary isn’t that and was more dude bro vibe because it wasn’t put together by Dubay. It was put together by the white rapper dude ODDtv who’s featured throughout the documentary. Dubay’s stuff isn’t as attention deficit disorder friendly as this one is. He’s the narrator here.
his "debunking" still raises good points tho
@@Reasons2Vote He clearly didn't _object_ to how the documentary handled things, though.
@@SpaceManRD i love they claim google/youtube is "hiding" the flat earth yet they brag about using the same google/youtube to "expose" google trying to "hide the truth"??
WATCH OUT LADY THERE IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT WINDOW! I laughed hard on that one.
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That’s called cognitive dissonance, not too many people admit to going through that, but you did 😂😂😂
I remember when I didnt even have a basic comprehension of basic physics and astronomy. Imagine having such few actual achievements in life that you have to try to convince everyone you know more than lifelong scientists and centuries of scientific advancement.
TBH they're not trying to convince everyone (although they make it seem like that).
They're just trying to convince enough stupid people to feel special and make a living.
just because they're scientists doesn't mean they're not lying. People lie incase you forgot
@@Xizziano Yea but in the modern age, it would be hard to keep the lie straight, since with modern technology, the realms of accurate experimentation and measuring are no longer limited. One thing that always gets me about most conspiracy theories is that they are all like "Big bad empire xyz spends all this time and effort keeping it a secret but me, some random weirdo on the internet, found out the truth!" Now, if one day all the flat earthers go missing and their channels magically deleted then maybe you'll get some sane people believing they have a point. What gets me the most is that most conspiracy theorists go along the lines of "You can't blindly believe everything you're told, except by me!" I dare say some of them believe what they are spewing but I have no doubt in my mind some just do it to make a living, because if people are willing to believe the earth is flat, getting them to watch your videos or part with some money in the name of the cause probably isn't all that hard.
@@Ajial01 it wouldn't be hard if you control the source. You have a misconception about their “secrets”, they're not exactly secret. You the adage “hiding in plain sight”? That's why you can find the truth. That's because most people such as yourself believe it's all B's anyway so why hide it? That's the difference. Theorists don't say don't believe everything you told except by them, they say do your own research and question what you're told. The ones you do have faith in say only believe me.
@@Xizziano Wouldn't it be easier just to actually hide it? You're sort of arguing against yourself there. Its easy to hide it because they control the source but also they don't have to hide it because nobody would believe it? You could argue against anything being true by that logic. Nobody is denying that dogs are just cats in a mechanical suit.
The voice pitch drops and ultradramatic music theme is freezer temp IQ
The astronauts were former test pilots and also engineers/scientists. Test pilots are chosen for their unflappable demeanour and engineers are geeks who are usually more introverted than average so they were coincidentally selecting men who wouldn’t gush, emote or be enthusiastic.
I wouldn't say they are "geeks". I have never met engineers who bite the heads off of chickens.
Plus they were just out of the isolation/quarantine tank, weren't they? That would certainly leave you a tad drawn and tired-looking.
@@WitchidWitchid geeks bite heads off chickens? You are obviously using the word geek in a way I am not. EDIT. looked it up in the OED. I am not talking about the US definition as I am not American but even in the US geek=studious person highly skilled with tech and computers is not unknown surely? I suspect you were trying to be clever at my expense for which you get an asshole point
@@molybdomancer195 Personally I don't know why the term "geek" or "nerd" is used to describe smart people, people who are studious or who enjoy scientific or technical topics. Traditionally "geek" or "nerd" meant someone lacking in social skills or socially awkward. Yet most of these types are no less socially adept than anyone else. I understand that somehow the terms somehow managed to stick. Personally I refrain from using them as to me they will always carry a negative connotation. But them I guess I can't expect the world to do everything my way. It to not use a term because I happen not to like it. But anyhow, outside of "geek" your original point point is well taken. For Dubay to argue that they didn't act excited.somehow implies they were lying is ludicrous.. But then, just about everything Dubay says is ludicrous.
I used to be terrified just speaking to a couple of hundred people in church or school or being on a local TV quiz show. I can't imagine how stressful it must be to address Congress and an international TV audience. Some people train for years for PR work and still crack under the stress of talking to an audience like that. But as you say they were mostly test pilots (as Armstrong was) and their default response to stress is to lock down and be like highly-focused precision machines. If that weren't their default response to stress, their careers as test pilots would be very short and tragic.
"As a Tattoo artist", yes, you are obviously MORE than qualified to explain our scientific theory's, lets get all our scientific explanations from him.
My God…as much as I would love to watch this video, Eric Dubay’s smug sense of self satisfaction coupled with that voice will make me break things around the house.
He is a Jim Jones cultist type leader with a legion of flat earther bozo buffoon cultists that drink his poisoned Kool-aid.
No that’s the cognitive dissonance your going through 😂😂😂😂
@@jindalee4471 You’re*
@@jindalee4471 projection,eh?
@@Mo0nL1ght-Radio lol what’s that the next mental break down Globaloids go through
Put that table in the middle of the Melbourne Cricket Ground and stand behind the fence, you will still see the light from that torch.
$50 bet that Dubay was one of the first 3 people to dislike this video 😂
Double that that Dubay was 3 of the first 3 to dislike this video :D :D
@@RustyWalker lmao
He was commenter number -1
Doubt he even watches them. If he did, he wouldn't be making his. Guy's not interested in learning anything.He's right cause he's right, and he knows he's right cause he's right. That's how they think, lol. He's not but, he convinced himself he is, IF he actually believes what he's saying, which I'm not sure about. I think 1/2 of them lie. They just make videos to get views. It's so ridiculous people will watch it. It's like watching a guy jump off a building or something. 'Guy's an idiot, I need to see it.'
@@827Drew He's "right" because that's what brings in that sweet RUclips/Patreon revenue. That's as far as the thinking goes with Eric.
I can't believe he actually put a crepuscular rays segment immediately after a segment on the perspective argument. It's almost like when he was writing the script for one it reminded him of the counterpoint for the other.
The crepuscular ray argument can be tested by two people measuring the angle from north of shadows of sticks simultaneously a few miles apart from each other.
@@thudthud5423 if you're clever with trigonometry, you can test it by yourself with the reflections in the water.
Dan, can you please ask them why the sun is floating and rotating?
What makes it fly?
What is its mean of locomotion?
Ireally need to know what they have to say to that.
Some of them have addressed this... by saying that it'll never be known. Granted, they are experts at being ignorant.
Things that of course are more easily answered by the earth being spherical and space being a real thing. They have to invent any explanations for reasons why this occurs, which never seems to work out in their favor for some inexplicable reason. When in doubt leave it blank I guess.
The Law of Just Does it would seem.
@@emanwe01 Hoo funny... I asked that question to a flerfer. and his answer was "Electro-magnetism"
@@Poudigne I asked a similar question and the answer was "God"
Man, every time they show overexposed videos of the sun appearing huge in the frame, then it "shrinks" as it gets darker, because the exposure is now correct, I get so angry, because while a camera can be used to lie about that, our freaking eyes actually see the fact that the apparent size of the sun does not change.
"That's Dave Murphy, he drinks urine." Well, that's all I need to know about him.
I feel sory for his kidneys and liver.
That's what happens when you start to think that everything that has been told to you is a lie just _because_... _"They lied about space, they must have lied about drinking pee and eating poo - Tomorrow: Drano, the delicious lie!"_
@@robsku1 😄 Sad but true.
Hey come on, I know some perfectly nice people who like to drink urine. Admittedly not as often or ritualistically as this guy.
It was pretty hard just watching him drink that entire glass of piss, minus the bit at the bottom of course
You should totally put up a silhouette of you watching the movie like on Mystery Science Theater 3000.
🤣 yes!
Greater Sapien did that
Love that idea!
That's 2hat Greater Saipan did.
Saving people from the flat earth cult, one video at a time.
Not all hero's wear capes, some wear joggers.
If Buzz Aldrin is "Sick of lying" why would he punch a flat earther in the face? (Arguably the best video ever)
I do love that clip.
My hero! lol
@Urban SpaceXMan then who did he punch?
@Urban SpaceXMan space deniers and flatards are the same, they are all liars and anti science.
@Urban SpaceXMan... And what does that have anything to do with him decking some jackass?
I'm glad you are posting this. never in my life would I dare support their cause by giving them watch time on their channel
Besides, there is nothing new about Dubay's bullshit. Getting it second hand is as close as I want.
My favorite part whas when they rolled out their ace in the hole, Johnny Giampapa, the tattoo artist. And he wanted to see people in Australia upside down. Comedy Gold.
It's more and more hilarious each time I hear it. Like, it's a joke that Australia is "upside down" so much so that it's a meme, but these morons literally are like "Take pictures of the upside down people!" Like... they just don't understand how "down" and "south" are not the same thing. They literally think that the oceans should be dripping off the Earth like a wet tennis ball, and it's just so adorably stupid that you have to laugh.
HIs argument reminded me of the guy that asked for a Spy satellite to shoot an image of the equator where the skyscrapers stick out straight to the sides.
Do they think such cameras can be freely positioned at whatever location and distance we want? Where would you even go to to make it clear it's both the Earth "the right side up" AND Australia with a single person swimming "head over/under" ??? As soon as you zoom in to try and see a swimmer or walker on the beach... you loose any indication of the orientation of earth, so the photo would be meaningless.
I thought it was utterly hilarious when he referred to himself as a "tattooer." I know at least 14 people who give people tattoos professionally for a living, and I have talked to several others. Literally NONE of them call themselves "tattooers." They are tattoo artists. A "tattooer" is not a thing (even my spellcheck is freaking out over the word). If the guy can't even get the name of his own profession right, how am I supposed to take him seriously about anything else?
@@AnimeOtakuDrew Apparently tattooer is a word. I haven't heard anyone use it. I was thinking maybe a tattooer was somebody who took part in a military tattoo (see "Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo" on RUclips for those that don't know what that is).
@testing 22.1 to 24.5 degrees means a total range of 2.4 degrees. Each degree of latitude is approximately 69 mile or 111 kilometers, meaning that 2.4 degrees is only 165.6 miles or 266.4 km difference in position. Also, this movement happens gradually throughout the year. When you look at how far away Polaris is (430 light years), such a small shift in angle is imperceptible to human eyes, especially since it is happening so slowly. If you were to take the highest resolution photo possible of Polaris at maximum zoom when the tilt is at its lowest angle, then take another photo of equal resolution when the tilt is at it greatest angle, then have those photos compared against each other by the most sensitive image analysis software out there, you MIGHT find a difference that is detectable to the computer. Just because it's not visible to your eyes doesn't mean it's not real. Do you also doubt the existence of the oxygen we breathe? Can't see it after all. Science has proven that it's there, but you don't believe in scientific proof. Prove to me, without science, that oxygen exists. For that matter, prove to me (again, without science) that we even NEED oxygen. See, the same scientific processes made ALL of our discoveries, so you either have to acknowledge that science works--which means acknowledging the things it has discovered or proven unless or until you can PROVE those findings are incorrect in a way that others can repeat (and rhetoric does not constitute proof, as so many flat earthers fail to realize)--OR you have to dismiss ALL of science because it is a flawed system. Science isn't a buffet line where you get to choose only the things that you think taste good; if you believe science works, then you have to accept all the things proven by it, and if you think it DOESN'T work, you need to reject everything based on it. It's that simple. You're right though, we don't live on a "spinning ball;" we live on an oblate spheroid that slowly rotates a constant and comfortable rate of 15% per hour or one full rotation every 24 hours. "Spin" implies a much higher rate of rotation (more akin to the idiot experiment of spinning a ball in the air to see if water sticks to it--I call this the idiot experiment because the only conclusion that can be drawn from the experiment is that any person using it to determine whether the oceans would stay on the Earth's surface is an idiot), and "ball" usually implies that the object in question is actually spherical. Of course, I honestly believe many flat earthers are fully aware of all the facts I covered here but choose to overlook them because nobody would take them seriously and watch their videos if they stated facts that disprove the point they're trying to make. If you wanted to make a video to convince people that clouds are made out of cotton candy, you wouldn't include an explanation of how water vapor condenses around microparticles in the atmosphere and adheres together in visible clusters; you don't get views by disproving your own argument. So flat earthers omit inconvenient facts. Simple as that.
12:49 - I'm sure it was talked about more on the original video, but, I love that Dubay's "proof" of a "flat earth sun" is the most doctored video on the "documentary"...
Has he every actually WATCHED a sunset? wow
"Take a picture of a city upside down from space"
"Ok"
"Fake. CGI."
That's their answer for everything. "It's fake, clearly CGI"
Too bad they didn't CGI that glass of piss out of Dave's hand. I have no idea why they think someone who CHOOSES to drink his own piss would help them change peoples' minds, but I'm glad they did.
Why would you want a picture of an upside down city anyway? Anyone can take one, lmao. Turn the camera upside down and take a picture. It's simple. That would prove nothing. Take a normal picture of yourself, and turn it upside down, lol. It's the same thing. You'll be upside down, lol. What else would you be? You turned the picture upside down. I mean I feel like this is simple, lol.
@@twizz420 dude claimed space was fake, then asked for a satellite to take pictures of Aussies upside down.
they must have had great CGI in the 60's then.
@@827Drew not to mention the fact that nobody who understands the globe thinks that people in Australia are "upside down" in the first place
I can't believe someone actually commissioned this nonsense. What on round earth they were thinking?? Yoga teacher, pi55 drinker, tattoo artist and some unknown wash outs...some scientific brain between them? None. And flerfs debunking themselves? Thanks Bob. And Phuket 🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣Great video. Was waiting for this. Very amusing.
”As a tattooer...”
Thanks, mr Expert!
But he talks to hundreds of people a month!
@@andysmith1996 Rapidly stabbing them with tiny pointy things all the while. Now that's painful.
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I once stole 500 euro from flat earther.He cant catch me because i run to other side of globe.
Man ... Kudos for watching that all ... I can only take 1-2 minutes of ED at a time before I need to go punch myself in the junk to distract from the throbbing pain in my head due to his actual, literal, stupidity.
The cringe is unbearable the voice edition and over voice it is make me puc
True.
The hubris, stupidity, dishonesty, and ignorance drive me up the wall.
Kudos to Dan who has the patience to deal with this crap and not lose his sanity.
the sneering arrogance in his voice is more than I can take - this would be my equivalent of Guantanomo Bay music torture ;)
Something that just hit me: if they say the sun acts like a directional light (torchlight) to explain days/nights, not only should the angular size diminish, the shape also must change from a circle, into a shrinking oval then a thin line before vanishing as demonstrated by their self-debunking flash light experiment.
Is it possible to have below zero critical thinking in a human on a scale of 0-100? I think they show it is possible.
The flat Earth Sun must have a magic lampshade that is undetectable by any means just like their magic dome over the Earth.
Also, lunar eclipses dont work on a flat earth. Not like we see them in reality.
The fat earth sun is difficult to explain. I know little about it. What got me on this topic though, is I saw a perpendicular sun when I was in Hawaii. When no shadows are present. However on the same day I observed at 10am the shadow was south East slightly. And at 2pm the shadow was south west, slightly. If you have the sun directly over head during that time of year, I would of suspected the shadows to be exactly due west and east. Not south at all.. and now here I Amex trolling dumb RUclips vids and comments trying to find answers to something that seems to be very controversial.
@@CriticalCoen didn't they already proved the moon is trasparent? Solar eclipse must therefore be a lie.
Just for fun I've been trying to explain sunrise and sunset on a flat earth model and just can't work out how to do it, couple that with timezones and I think that is all you need to prove a globe.
Both things of course that any American flat earther can prove for themselves
I laugh at “A 15 degree drift” every single time. Don’t stop using it.
Lol you believe that? You not seen the unedited footage lol. Imagine thinking Netflix would post a real flat earth documentary
@@themorgan9805 lol yeah yeah continue to deny any evidence that goes against your set of fixed beliefs. a swinging pendulum proves the earth spins 😂😂
@@nxh2897 no it doesn't ahhaahhahaahhaahhaa
@@themorgan9805 sure it doesn't
@@nxh2897 a swinging pendulum proves the earth is a globe in infinite vacuum? What crack are you smoking - there isn't even an accepted theory of gravity in mainstream science as Einstein was recently debunked by an Irish physicist. Learn science idiot
"The horizon rises to eye level, if we start looking down as we go up."
Wow! Love your intensity on this one Dan. Can't wait for part 2.
Matt Powell Has an Inflatable Banana in His Back Yard Which he Calls Dr. Peel.
Thanks Bob.
Thanks Ranty.
Don't forget to #thanksBev
"a fifteen degree per hour drift"
What did we say after that gentlemen?
Thanks Bob.
Thanks Bob
Thanks Bob
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Thanks bob
The early astronauts were not chosen for their speaking ability, personability, or eagerness to attend boring meetings. They were men of action.
They were a bunch of freemasons and shit actors. They couldn't even all agree on the same story without looking like deers caught in headlights.
Absolutely brutal hoping this series does become the first hit when googling the real thing
NASA: "Right, we are going to fake a space walk with our immense budget for CGI"
CGI artist: "SIR, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO REMOVE THE AIR BUBBLES OR THAT RAT THAT WE COULDN'T CATCH YESTERDAY"
Sounds legit.
"Should we find military people who can act?"
"Meh."
My wife’s cousin was a Gemini and Apollo astronaut. He says the earth is definitely round and the moon is not a couple of thousand miles away.....😎
@@robertheroux2402 Ah a fellow CIA agent. I'll see you at lunch break in the Pentagon Robert
"I'm trying to refrain from using Bob" :(
"A 15 degree per hour drift" :)
Thanks Bob.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks Bob
Thanks, Bob.
Just saw this, and after the you mention that the second guy introduced drinks urine, I spit out the cereal I was eating. Well done sir!
Well my best friend is a Yoga instructor and also has a degree in Astrophysics. So some are. But then again she isn’t a total numpty who thinks the world is flat.
I'm a yoga instructor. Everybody is an expert in yoga. It's just made up bullshit.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 I mean Kinesiology is a thing, and there are some observable benefits to certain stretches. Also just moving your body is generally good for you, but as a spiritual wellness/ magic/ chakra boosting tool it is complete BS.
I like how the tattoo artist had to sneak in his little tiny creationism note too.
Tried watching the original but only got five minutes in before the open bs got to me - thanks for doing this amazing task - looking forward to all three videos.
Try watching the whole thing many times. I am up to at least 5 now. Part 3 might just be the best.
I can't find the source material at the link, followed it and it stated "Video Unavailable", oh well, another one bites the dust. Keep up the good work.
"Watch out lady! There is giant ball of nuclear reactor right outside that window!"
😂🤣😂🤣
Considering the size of the sun's position, I wonder if she was also experiencing the Aurora Borealis, at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, localized entirely within her kitchen.
@@bretsheeley4034 May I see it?
@@DaedalusYoung No.
You absolutely MUST do the repeating a sentence thing but slowed down to a deep pitch...It adds so much drama!
"All they'd have to do to prove it is (insert whatever) but they'll never do it"
Insert it being done
"Well that's obviously fake because it can't be done and they only pretended to do it to deceive people that asked about it"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy#:~:text=The%20invincible%20ignorance%20fallacy%20is,argument%2C%20ignoring%20any%20evidence%20given.
I mean seriously.. that tattoo guy's idea is so ridiculous.. they would just claim that they showed the image upside down.. how can that prove anything ? so dumb its scary
Shits so tiring, i can only watch these debunking videos for so long because the actual flat earthers start pissin me off with their audacity hahahaha
13:00 Ever been in a train, sitting in the station. Looking outside the window you can see another train on the next track. Then you see the train moving. Until you realize, that your train is moving? (Yes, modern trains can accelerate so smoothly that you can't feel it)
I know. It's eerie lol
"They just need to show a photograph of someone swiming upsidedown" and yet THEY just have to show a photograph of the edge of the earth, or the glass container keeping the atmosphere.... oh, and moon phases still don't work on a flat earth. Also, i'd like to see this oh-so-convenient lampshade they all seem to believe exist on the sun (how do they say again? ah! "that's stoooopid").
"They just need to show a photograph of someone swiming upsidedown"
That one really got me. Do they actually think that those of us in the southern hemisphere are upside down? How f'ing staupid is this guy?
Also swimming upside down is pretty easy. Like, that's not unimaginable as a thing that would happen.
I'm still waiting for them to provide an explanation for solar and ESPECIALLY lunar eclipses. I've asked them on their discord servers and all I got was a "idk buddy" and a permaban lol
@@HatstandTuesday I could do that on Earth. In the northern hemisphere.
Just flip the fucking camera over. BOOM! Moron's too stupid to know that north is not inherently up.
Let's allow this video series to define Flat Earth. For the algorithm!
Must remember to get that tattooist to re-wire my house or take out my appendix - he's obviously well-qualified....
or get an electrician or surgeon to give you a tattoo
@@heavyecho1 I ended up not getting a tattoo the other day,, because the guy that was here and installed our dishwasher didn't have time.
Or any needles... or dyes...
Or patterns in a book I could look at...
Or....
17:55 wow Allegidly Dave is right. Ive never seen steetlights before I walk into the cone of light directly underneath it. It always gives me a right scare when those pesky streetlamp lightbulbs just pop into existence!
I've never heard a tone of voice that was so passively arrogant in my entire life.
I don't understand how anyone could have sat through one long enough to become gaslit.
Keep doing what you do, Dan. Sagan knows, we need it.
"They should use a satellite to zoom in on a car in Australia". Yeah, thats called Google Earth. You know, the same "fake satellite" flat earther use to get maps to prove its fake lol.
You forget they would simply shout "CGI" as soon we show them the image.
I also like the amount of CGI in a video that claims that all NASA content is CGI.
Ah yes, the age-old question that flerfs can't answer - "How do you know the land masses are positioned like the way they are on a flerf map?"
@@prouleau4440 Google earth is cgi made up from real images it's also not live footage
I love that its listed as Comedy on IMDB and has been for the last week or so.
20:52 Allegedly Dave: "The closer you are to the pole..."
Shows the sun setting almost straight down, like it does NEAR THE EQUATOR!
We can reduce these claims to a simple sentence: "The "eye" sees what it wants"
Maybe, the "I" sees what it wants.
No it’s not true I AM super beautiful!!!
and for those who know their history of astronomy - that is exactly what led to all the controversy over Martian canals (plus the Italian mis-translation of 'channels').
reminds me of a line in a book: "men believes what they want to believe."
90 minutes of Eric DuBay's voice? You, sir, deserve a medal.
I know lol. There's no way I could listen his condescending, patronising voice for that amount of time. Dan's an absolute saint!
I couldn’t last 5 minutes listening to his pompous voice.
@@chloewright1 I checked out Dubay's channel, finally, about a week ago. And yes, I only got about 2 or 3 videos in before I had to quit because I could not deal with the condescending tone. That, and the fact that literally everything he was saying was bullshit.
What left me the most unsettled though was his comments sections. It's *very* disturbing how "beloved" he is by his people. The best way I can describe it, all kidding aside, is cult-like. After all, he purports to be revealing for them "hidden truths" no one else will.
What other definition is there of a cult leader...?
@@blowc1612 Just bear in mind that he is displaying his ignorance every time.he opens his piehole. He has yet to offer any proof for his flat earth claims. All his arguments are are. Incoherent speculation and conjecture.
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 well there is trump. Do as i say, not as I do cult leader?
Love the little blooper you put during the ad...
...and yes, I watch his sponsored ads
For that sun one I want to also point out that flashlights are different from suns. A flashlight shines light in one direction because the bulb is only exposed on one side. A sun is more of the equivalent of a lightbulb. No side is covered so the light shines in all directions.
"No pictures ever shown the curvature, except for the ones that did"
Post them
@@sullconstruct what for? You'll just say nuh uh, fake!
I like that you used the xkcd solar spectrum at 17:20, giant sunglasses included. I wonder how many people spotted it or got the joke?
Big shoutout to the man, Professor Dave Explains with that sweet, sweet channel cameo!
Perspective - should show the clip from Top Secret!, where Val is on the train at the station and the train moves away...then we notice the ground isn't moving, and it was in fact the Station moving away from the train.
A nice take on a popular explanation of relativity.