Nathan Oakley tried to destroy my video ...
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2023
- A vocal Flat Earther attempted to pull apart my video about the moon observations in his usual manner ... it doesn't go well for him
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If you ever feel like an idiot, just remember, there are grown men who believe the earth is flat
I also think of the people that think that rockets can't work in space because they think they require something to "push off" against, rather than simply throwing mass out the back causing movement opposite to that mass.
He makes money on it, almost $2000 per year.
Much like 13:49 where writers of this video who dont know the differance between Colombia and Columbia
And there are also grown men that believe the airplane can fly through steel beams on wtc, remember that!
Yes, because apparently making a typo is the same level of idiocy as being a Flerfer, lol.
I'm glad flat earthers exist. Thanks to them, people like you create videos that help me understand the physics of our globe even better.
Exactly. This is like getting a free science class every week. I love the debunkers because I learn stuff (and it is entertaining).
Nathan isn’t a flat earther. He’s a conman.
@@KennyEaton603 He might be. He's also a foul-mouthed idiot.
He is forced to explain things in a way even the dumbest person could understand. Which is great because I'm not very smart
Agreed. This man, who apparently is primarily a phtography youtuber, has taught me more than my astronomy professor
I did a lesson with my second graders in a bilingual school and told them there are people like Jokely here... their response was hilarious. They laughed for a good 10 minutes before I could start the lesson properly. They came up with many good points of why they are wrong before going through my points... which shows that 7/ 8 year-olds are smarter than flat earthers...
Glad to hear there is hope for future generations 😁
@DaveMcKeegan always, and it is good to teach them to critically analyse things but to challenge absolute rubbish and call it out.
I was so proud of them when they were pointing out some points! First was the boats going over the horizon. Another kid said I can't see the Burj Khalifa so how is it flat. Best lesson I've ever had the pleasure of teaching!
Funny thing? All vegetables and some rocks are too.
Flerfers just go on digging that hole they are in. "The moon rolls across the sky"
@@joyfulzero853 "the flat earth society has members all around the globe"
Thanks bob
You know you've won when their best defense is to insult you
*every flat earther has left the chat*
Yep. Exactly. Ad hominem is not a valid argument, and happens when there is no argument - either legitimate or otherwise - left to respond with.n lol.
Yep , anytime a ask a flatearther a few questions they eventually come to the point where they are coming to smash me!😂😂😂😊
@@user-pr1qh7wk8iwithout picking sides. Flat earthers make better arguments.
The only explanation people like u give is "it's a globe cuz NASA"
Or "everyone knows it's round, you're dumb for thinking otherwise"
If u have an open mind at the very least you will realize u knew less than u thought u did if u actually try to prove them wrong and not just try to mock some strawman argument
@FernandoGonzalez-hq9ei I've asked flat earthers questions I know they can't explain on the flat earth theory, but all I get is insults and iam stupid.
Let's be honest, those of us that aren't clinically brain dead, we're really here for the dog now.
Well the dog and the comedy. I have to give the flat earthers credit, they're entertaining to laugh at.
speak for yoursefl!
I'm here cos it's facinating how dumb people's mind works, and i want to hear there argument, but i cannot bare flat earth videos bythemselfs for more than 5 minutes without phisical pain.
He is like a guide to stupidity for me (and i dont like dogs)
I agree
@@haverjamarosi680 im at that point, i cant finish the video its making me angry that people can be so stupid
@@quintisalive no, why?
If Nathan Oakley is so adamant that a sextant can only work on a flat earth, give him one, set him out to sea and tell him to work it out for himself. With any luck, you'd never hear from him again.
In all honesty, with the apparent lack of cognitive faculties in Nathan, a lawyer could very well argue this counts as manslaughter. So this probably isn't a great idea.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 Orright, but let's be honest here - it WOULD be funny, right ?
@@thetrevor861 ...yeah, it certainly would be hilarious
That is a perfect idea. Being on that ship, he could happily play with celestial navigation for the rest of his life:-)
@@angelmendez-rivera351 Not being able to distinguish between a joke and a real proposal is a jokeslaghter. Also not a great idea 🙂
You could send these people into space and they would claim they were drugged, brainwashed, or hypnotized into seeing fake things.
yeah, flat earthers prefer to be brainwashed by internet fraudsters
Ikr
And I would believe they were, because they already sound like they've been drugged, brainwashed, or hypnotized !
But then we could just leave them there.
or just claim they saw the flat earth with all its glory lmfao
Flat earthers are a perfect example of why being skeptical isn't a good thing when you are an idiot. Sadly, they're not better off believing everything someone tells them either.
"make your own research" ...
...
... with MY keyword pls...
It's not about being an idiot. They forgot step 2 of being a good skeptic: allow your understanding to evolve when presented with sufficient evidence. But they never do. They refuse to be anything other than correct, because they have it in their heads that everyone in the world is out to get them.
If they were actually skeptical, they'd be skeptical of flat earth claims, and would be trying to debunk them (which is fairly easy). They aren't skeptical. They apparently (yep, there's that word again!) just like thinking they are smart, so glom onto ideas that they think they understand, never questioning them.
They fall for every psy-op. Next time u run into 1...ask them if they believe in the tartarian ancient mud flood theory. They will either not have heard of it yet or say yes...
The fact that he's so rage filled and indignant, while also being comically wrong? That makes it art.
Respectfully differ: crap on a canvas has been CALLED art, but it's still just crap on a canvas. So, unless Nathan was a performer demonstrating what flat Earthers are like, it's not performance art. It's a man crapping on a canvas, and calling himself, and his "work" brilliant.
@@HenglaarCrap on a canvas absolutely can be art, as long as someone thinks it is. Art is subjective.
This Nathan guy is a moron though for sure.
I saw a word game some years ago, it said "Create a new word by changing one letter from an existing word, and give your new word a definition." Someone submitted "Ignoranus: A person who is both stupid and an asshole"
Seems applicable to Mr. Oakley.
It’s a sham for clicks.
@@mallninja9805 Can I use that? Would come in handy some days.
Nathan Oakley is one of those people I struggle to listen to, he's angry, offensive, and amazingly confident in his ignorance. Very much the definition of a stupid person's idea of a smart person.
Mr Oakley is filled with the confidence and surety borne of ignorance.
How is posible to reason with a flatearther ?their vision limit is the horizon,that’s all…..
I would agree with you Nathan on that. Sad that some people have to resort to bad mouthing and degrading others just to prove their point. In the eyes of an intelligent person who uses their common sense it can be very frustrating to see someone under use theirs.
This is a common trait among flat earthers and conspiracy theorists.
Flat earth is WRONG
Arguing with flat earthers is like playing chess with a pigeon. They shit all over the board, knock down all the pieces and claim they won. The pigeon is probably more intelligent than the flat earther. Probably has more charm too
And sounds better too.
I'm using this description from now on...and I'm probably gonna act like I just came up with it on the fly/off the cuff! So, I formally thank you here because you won't be getting the credit when I use it!
Thanks again, and take care!
I lost to a pigeon in chess after teaching it how to play chess. A flat earther would bring connect 4 pieces to a game of chess.
dunno about pigeons intellect but at least their aim is good, have seen them headshot people from 10 stories high with a bird shit
crows on the other hand would require 1000 flat earthers per crow to give it even a little bit of a challenge in intellect
I’ve seen this exact same comment on a different flat earth debunk video, idk if it’s the same person or one copied the other or if they both just thought the same thing.
"Everything that proves flat Earth wrong is a CGI"
- Flat-Earthers
Or government propaganda
Or its "flawed logic" because they're just too !@#$ing stupid to understand it
at this point flerfs (idk what flerf stands for) think they living in the matrix lol
@rojections i assume it stands for a mispronunciation for flat earth (flat earf -> flerf) as a way to make fun of how stupid they are. But i dont actually know if thats true thats just what i assume🤷🏽♂. If they call themselves that then it probably means something else since with how smart they desperately want to seem it makes me think theyd never call themselves dumb, but i dont know any flat earthers irl (because why would i subject myself to such stupidity and headaches) so cant confirm or deny what they call themselves officially
@@JubioHDX ok thanks!
@@JubioHDX yep that's exactly what it is
a dumb down version of flat earther to point out how stupid they are
flerfs from flatardia whom themselves claim they have members all aross the globe
I always find it telling when one side of an argument provides maths and formulas and experiments that you can easily reproduce with consistent outcomes, and the other side shouts "nuh-uh" and calls you an idiot.
Name calling and tantrums versus math and very easy to follow geometry.
Nathan uses a good mix of brashionality and lowjeck in his cyantithik eggsplaneashuns.
@@VestigialHead I honestly was going to translate this to English for the first 30 seconds I tried to read it...😜😂
@@crushlogic It is written in Nathanese. Might be hard to find a translator that is competent in this rare dialect. :)
@@VestigialHead absolutely love the intelligence behind both comments
Someone needs to tell Nathan that repeating someone's point in an incredulous voice is not a counter argument.
It's the best argument they've got.
Thats straight outa kindergarden stuff but I bet even in kindergarden kids would be able understand more then this lunatic
On that subject, "An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition... A contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."
"No, it's not...”
Or just shouting we've debunked it
Its called the Dunning Kruger effect. Also known as The Nathan Oakley Syndrome.
What baffles me most about flat earthers is how complicated their explanations for everything are. If the earth was in fact flat, it would be so blatantly obvious to see that it wouldn't need that much explanation.
i always like the 800 year old theories from some buried civilization they found in a childrens books but of course the "world powers" covered it all up 🤣
@@wookiee_beard The entire concept of 'as time went on, humanity gathered more knowledge' seems to pass these people by.
I wonder if these comment are fake bots? Like it’s gotten this bad that so many are waking up they create fake accounts to leave fake comments. You do know it’s the earth is not a globe anymore? This is trippy😮. Director of nasa in charge of Apollo mission put it in his tombstone. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
how to silence a flat earther
-150 mm howitzer
-thermonuclear bomb
-mustard gas
-bring up hull down naval ships
-bring up gravity
Ayo what😂
@@judet2992 Everything, or at least most, they mention requires the earth to be a globe to function effectively.
@@supremecaffeine2633 why does everyone think im a flat earther
@@judet2992Okay, I'll bite. Why?
@@thomasbell7033 I was asking rhetorically
Nathan is the perfect example to prove the fact that not all humans can be considered intelligent life.
Let the aliens come and take all the flerfers away.. And as they're flying off they can look out a window and say, "Why from way up here cant I see Australia from the UK..."
Shit!!! Its a ball after all..
He and other Nathan... I wonder what happened to him actually 😅, but to be honest I think he knows he talks rubbish but he need this grift to make money.
Sad but true.
Some people shouldn't ever handle anything more complicated or hazardous than a shovel.
Nathan is also the perfect example of why people don't want to discuss flat earth, as he is mainly scolding and malding.
I actually got Nathan to "mind his language" when I told him my son likes watching his content. He kindly obliged and I was very surprised. Then I told him we both find it hilarious that an 8 year old was smarter than him😂
Haaaaaate to say it, but gotta give him credit for at least that...
@@paulp1450 I guess. Doesn't make up for his vile behaviour most of the time though
@@headcrab980 Well, yes. ✔
@@headcrab980 what he teaches is despicable imo. He is literally the counter argument to free speech, and it pains me to great extent. He is purposely making people dumber to feel empowered and make money.
@@MyrKnof I reckon he knows the earth isn't flat as well. I bet his parents are so proud
I asked a Flerf group, If the Earth is flat, how can the Sun can illuminate the Moon above my head, but not the ground beneath my feet.
The Moon is self illuminating was their answer. A Moon reflecting the Suns light, destroys their model.
You assume they have a single model.
@@judet2992 they have about 50 and not one of them works
@@game_projections exactly
If it is self illuminating how do they explain the phases of the moon? Lights going out? Do they think there's someone up there changing out millions of light bulbs all year long?
@@cameronpritchett8300 Or some craters have very little shadows while others are mostly obscured by shadows, all at the same moment in time.
Arguing with flat-earthers is like playing chess with a pigeon because it doesn't matter how masterfully tutored you've been in the theory, how sound your thinking and strategy is, or how good you are at the game in general, the pigeon is always going to knock over the chess pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
Now there's a joke i haven't heard in a long time
The fact he doesn't understand how the moon staying the same size, in every country at any hour, destroys a local moon circling above you, is hilarious.
And the fact he won't say how far away he thinks it is, is a telling point.
I believe he does understand it. He's not an idiot. But it's his livelihood to pedel the flat earth so he has no reason to admit that fact.
I'm pretty sure he understands, I'm pretty sure he also knows the earth isn't flat.
He's just a conman.
Flattards can't think in 3D. It's one of the primary reasons they end up him, yelling at everyone about buoyancy and such.
@@jameshall1300 You're the second comment that I get notified of that gets shadowbanned.
I think the f word is banned.
Try to copy paste your comment without it to see if it makes a difference.
lets be fair ... Nathan couldn't destroy a piece of wet cardboard let alone any globe proof
He failed against AI.
Nathan only destroys his and his followers' 🧠 brain cells
What is faster than Chuck Norris' round-house kick in the head? It's Chuck Norris running away from Nathan Oakley.
Oh come on his destroys the flat earth every time he talks.
@@OGNosefix "Nathan only destroys his and his followers' 🧠 brain cells"
Watching this video he destroyed some of mine.
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" - not Socrates apparently but true nonetheless.
I find flat-earthers fascinating. Imagine convincing yourself that something is true to the point of simply dismissing everything that proves you wrong as just being fake.
being a psychologist must be really fun in these times
Ok but are you SURE the moon isn’t just a good boy and someone is telling him “do a roll” every night?
Yea I didn’t think so
The dog added more intelligent commentary in this single video than any flerfer has in all their videos combined. The dog is also much cuter.
😂
I'm completely convinced you could drive a flat earther to cape Canaveral, put them inside a rocket, take them into outer space, let them space walk.
And they would in turn up and say that you drugged, hypnotized, put them in an hologram room or something else.
Which ofcourse would be correct.
Right after seeing the globe earth, they'd wake up in a hospital having a terrible headache.
That would be "proof" that they were drugged.
What really happened.... they opened a windows to prove that:
- the windows are really screens. And you can see the flat earth, icewall and dome.
- there is no pressure gradient, so space-vacuum does not exist.
... and passed out 10 second later.
There are 2 types of flat earthers;
A) A person who has been fooled into legitimately believing the Earth is flat. They would at least acknowledge there is cause for doubt after reaching the south pole or circling the earth, etc. They would also immediately be discredited and disowned by the flat earth community especially the Type B's following this.
B) A con artist who knows exactly what they are doing and are using this platform for personal gain at the expense of all the type A's. They will actively reject any attempt to put them in a position where such a compromising situation could occur, or simply deny it all after the fact.
I think we all know which type this guy is.
your only mistake is putting the flat earther INSIDE the rocket
yes, and that's the thing with religious people, no evidence and exposure to reality can convince them they're wrong, so debating them is completely pointless....
Yea, I've asked flatearthers on Quora this question, regarding space tourism in the future, and these were _exactly_ the excuses they pre-emptively put forward.
But it would be a really interesting experiment to do, and to then ask them to open the shuttle door to put their money where their mouth is..
I would like to give credit to Dave for patience watching this whole 1,5 h livestream of very obnoxious, angry person yelling picking at every single word he says in the video and heavily insulting him (as only few seconds of those clips could give me a headache)
Then record a calm, valuable response video.
I could only wish to stay like this in many life situations 👏🏻
When you dismiss all the insults and swearing and funny voices, it's really just a 3 and a half minute video, at best.
Most of which is watching him trying to get his, no doubt mysteriously sticky, mouse cursor to do what he wants it to do.
Perfectly said Julie. It's probably possible in a situation like this to use ONLY the tone - and not even the content - to figure out which is correct: Dave using a patient, measured, calm tone and using reason without insult, versus somebody doing an angry insult-filled rant.
I absolutely love that context piece underneath all flat earth videos lol. It must drive them insane.
When you're feeling like your intelligence needs an ego boost.. listening to a flat earther never fails
Or ANY ONE denying ANY science!
Like Apollo moon landings...
GMOs are bad...
9/11 was an inside job...
CHEMtrails...
ANTIvax...
Young Earth creation...
And so many more complete dumbass bits of crap!
OH! Or listen to someone talking about some non-existent "energies" or similar crap too.
Good point, bruv.
Wow your so right my man
Yeah it gives you the feeling that you're Abel to do anything
Except explaining the earth to flatearthers
Just saying 🇧🇻
@@yvindwestersund9720 that hurt :O
But good stab :D
Nathan Oakley is one of those people that when you give a good argument, they won't acknowledge it and will ignore it and call you an idiot.
Yeah tragic aint it
Flat earthers in a nutshell
All of them insult when they don't understand something
@@Marinalin85 I have argued enough with them to know your statement is correct
plus they wont try to understand it
He's the epitome of playing chess with a pigeon, who on the first move simply knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board and declares himself the winner
I still to this day don't understand what's the actual end goal of a flat earther? There's nothing they are proposing, like a model, that makes better predictions or anything of the sort. If anything anytime they come up with some kind of model to explain a specific phenomenon. It just reveals even more problems that require even more unlikely explanations. Like how they try to explain seasons. A sun that controls it's revolution speed and size is somehow more plausible than a spinning globe earth?
Trying to debate a flat earther is like playing a board game with that cousin of yours who starts making up rules on the spot to favor his particular situation. Special pleading all the way down.
flat earth hoax is being pushed by a handful of fraudsters who have found a way to exploit and monetize socially disaffected ignoramuses
I asked one, one time, what the purpose is of convincing all of us that the world is round... "Power and control" was the response after a lot of ad hominems.
My quite natural response was "What power and control do they get by me thinking the Earth is round versus thinking it is flat? What would I do differently knowing the world was flat?"
Complete silence after that one...
What is more interesting is that the moon looks upside in the southern hemisphere, if you are from the northern hemisphere and at the equator it's 90°, looks like it's on it's side.
The only thing Nathan destroys is his own credibility, that thing that he never had any of anyway.
Nathan is a great ambassador for the Flat Earth community. We should support him to the full.
Can't destroy what you don't have. So Nathan fails so hard he cannot even destroy his own credibility. This means Nathan can *only* succeed as he literally cannot go lower, and he some how fails at that too 😆
Nathan Oakley believes the Earth is flat like a snake oil salesman believes his snake oil tonic will cure the ills of his customers.
@@thudthud5423 In defense of the Snake Oil Salesmen, some of them actually DID believe their claims. Granted, that just proves how dumb they were, but at least they were as honest as they could be.
@@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith Easy to believe it if you don't hang round long enough to get negative feedback. Those salesmen were mostly traveling from town to gullible town.
His rebuttal to Points 2 and 3: “Yeah, so what?”
Whelp, with depth of knowledge like that, you’re screwed and he’s convinced me! 😂
"Checkmate! 'Apparent!' ...meaning the moon only APPEARS to stay the same size." -someone who vehemently insists you should only trust your eyes and nothing else.
The lack of self awareness on such people is astounding.
yeah, dang that's good.
It's also a classic move to say "so what," and cut off the other video just before the speaker "explains what."
Even your dog at the end is looking at you like "are these flat earthers for real?"
my face actually warmed up from secondhand embarrassment for nathan, my god.
excellent work even though i only followed about half of what was said, i'm sure it'd be fully comprehensible to me if i took the time to look into each of those topics a little more deeply
The only thing Nathan ever destroyed was his own reputation.
And the only thing he proved with his flat earth vids is his stupidity.
like all flat earthers hahaha
that and the brain cells of anyone daft enough to listen to the cretin.
He also destroyed his marriage and his kids love for him.
@@CryptoRoast_0now that is sad. It does help to explain why he is such an angry little man.
When dealing with flat earthers just remember, “it's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
Exactly this. You just can't win an argument with people like NO, even when you're completely right.
I have a better one! "Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll knock over the pieces, shit on the board, then strut about like it's won anyways." I think this one fits perfectly for this dude! Actually, I'm giving him too much credit, the pigeon is wayy smarter than he is.
I have a better one! "Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll knock over the pieces, shit on the board, then strut about like it's won anyways." I think this one fits perfectly for this dude! Actually, I'm giving him too much credit.. The pigeon is wayy smarter than he is. He's just an insufferable idiot
@@Kratos-eg7ez Even the pigeon knows the earth isn't flat
@@Kratos-eg7ezI was about to say, that wasn't fair the pigeon with a gps in its head.
I quite like the “half the world can always see the moon” argument. That really is case closed in one non-technical point.
You know how stupid an argument is when one side provides math, logic, observation, and measurement and one side says "nuh uh it's magic"
Nathan, I was in the Air Force... and when confronted by someone who refuses to accept proven information, methods, and processes over and over again, we have a simple expression, "You can't fix stupid."
There is a difference between ignorant and stupid, and in this case, he most definitely fits the description of "Stupid" which the Oxford dictionary describes as, "Having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense." In this case the latter. Sad but so.
Yeah I think that it isn’t worth the psychological pain to argue with these people because no matter what you say, they’ll always be looking for loopholes that don’t exist and spitting out the same stupid claims about “refraction” or random scientific lingo that they don’t understand.
I think he's just dishonest and pushing a narrative for profit like Alex Jones. They don't care about science or facts because controversy is much more profitable than science or facts.
@@bastienfelix4605 I've had flattards say that even if they were taken in a rocket to orbit the earth as proof, they'd assume the windows were showing programmed CG. Smh. I mean, that level of brainwashing can't be undone.
@@bastienfelix4605I would sincerely look into the incidence of depression among flat earthers, drug abuse histories, and mental illnesses. Many of them are likely absent some much needed attention / medicine, for much of their sad lives. 😢
oof! right in the jugular!
Ohey, I didn't expect to see myself in this video. I know exactly what Nathan will say if he goes over this video, he will mention how I said "we don't expect to see the geometric horizon," a few years ago while ignoring the fact that I said "we don't see geometry."
Hence why I generally ignore Nathan now, unless someone else makes a video on him. If he's still flerfing about in 5 years, I can guarantee he'll bring up the same quote whenever I'm mentioned.
Why didn't you get pinned. RIP
Keep up the great work
The way these flat earthers argue about everything makes me think......if the earth was flat they would argue its a sphere
I measure the earth for a living. It's a globe.
Dave, did you see the flat earther who tried to measure the sun's temperature with an IR thermometer?
It's so funny.
Careful. That Mikey guy is legit mentally ill. Oakley knows he's lying, Mikey has swallowed the whole ridiculous thing and I don't know how ethical it would be to expose the poor guy. Then again, he does put himself out there...
Your comment sounds like a joke because it seems ridiculous. But I know that there is a flat earther that dumb because I saw that video. 😅
That one was absolutely hilarious. The amount of times he said "if I'm doing something wrong, someone tell me", and still didn't even glance at the specs or the instructions is just mind blowing. That's literally the first step to figuring out what a piece of kit can do, and how well it can do it.
They actually tried to do that??!?
@@sitnspin1819 yep.
I REALLY appreciate how calm and sensible Dave stays in these videos ay.
It always irritates me when someone on ANY side of an argument resorts to imitating their opponents voice in an overtly stupid sounding way. Not only does it make them appear childish, it also implies that they themselves think their opponents argument may sound valid if not for the silly dramatics.
Excellent stuff, keen to see more, G'day from Tasmania, Australia 🇦🇺
In fairness, holding a large, floofy spaniel helps.
But, yes. This is well delivered and informative, despite the hyperbole of Nathan.
@@__-jt4tv thank god its a floofy spaniel and not a flerfy one.
Agreed, but he did do exactly that.
12:59
"APPEARS! APPARENT!"
Inb4 some random flerfer says you're a paid actor
@@standardaussie
I mean... yeah but, honestly, it's still better than what I normally see, tbh.
And, tbh, it didn't really feel like mocking or mimicking as much as quoting, imo. Maybe that's just me though.
I'd love to 'debate' Nathan Oakley, but if he remotely spoke to me in that tone, I would have to show him a practical demonstration of flat nose theory!
Hah, good one.
I found this video really hard to watch, because that flat earther was just far too obnoxious. It was unpleasant to sit through, even in short bursts and knowing that he was going to be debunked moments later.
Whenever you feel inadequate just remember theres a group out there that when it debunks itself through it’s own experiments it attempts to debunk its debunking in order to debunk those that debunk their theories.
I debunk that comment... my oceans and Great Lakes are all flat, like my girlfriend when I was 13. Funny, though, we both believed the Earth was a globe, like the one in our classroom back then, what horny idiots we were back in 1975, so silly to believe those fibbing teachers. Hell, I even believed putting my peeper in her underwear area would make a baby. Only “God” can do that, right?
Bunk bunk debunk debunk WHOA-A-A-A.
Sample and loop that sucker, someone'll use it for thei drum track for a killer rap!
Yeah? Well they apparently debunked that 🤣
lol never thought about it like this but its so damn spot on XD
I am gobsmacked. I used to think those guys were just trolling. They REALLY believe it.
It's possible they have deficient or different brain structure.
@@RideAcrossTheRiverThey are perfectly functional human beings, I’m afraid. Whether by dogma, narcissism, or sheer weight of misunderstanding they’re down a deep pit of lies and nonsense that’s difficult to escape and even harder to find happiness in.
@@pretzelbomb6105 No, some of them perceive dimensions differently or not properly.
@@pretzelbomb6105 A lot of them are fundamentalist Christians and the bible describes a ' flat earth ' with the stars suspended in the firmament. You could explain the science to them dozens of times and dozens of ways and you are wasting your time.
I admit, before now, I'd never heard a flat earther so lost in their own headspace that the mere MENTION of spherical objects triggers a ragegasm.
There’s no point in trying to debate Nathan. He knows the earth is a globe, he’s just a loud noise clinging onto his sheep for the money.
In a way it’s impressive how Nathan can be so rude while thinking he’s correct, while being objectively, scientifically, factually, and theoretically wrong. These people need help
he uses anger as a cover for his lack of intelligence.
Nathan perfectly knows the Earth is a sphere and when he shouts “you can’t have an angle from a curved surface” or “you can’t have pressure without a container”, he is perfectly aware he is lying. His only goal is to keep his minions and the financial flow which comes with. He is a professional scammer.
He shouts and screams precisely to keep the real debate away. As long as he insults and mutes the other person, he avoids talking about physical facts.
@@betaorionis2164 maybe you're right, but imo thats giving him WAYYYYYY Too much credit
I would like to know what jobs (if any) these people have. It would be easy to make the legal case that they should be barred from any occupation involving children, just as paedophiles are. Educational abuse is as bad as sexual abuse.
I don't know which is more depressing, Nathan and his innate stupidity or the people who give him money. Great video.
He isn't stupid. He's a conman.
His attitude and manners alone make me wonder how he has any supporters at all. I guess they're the type of person who kowtows to a bully because they think it give them some kind of reflected glory.
All I have ever seen of this guy are short clips on debunking videos and that's irritating enough. I can't imagine listening to him for any period of time.
@@robertcatuara5118 He is a conman who simply sounds stupid. He deffo had me fooled for a few years until Cat Earth exposed him with a short video "Nathan Oakley is lying to you."
@@robertcatuara5118 A conman that gives other people free views money? What a nice guy.
Judging by his pathetic following on YT he is not raking in much money.
flat earthers make me feel much smarter than i really am and provide much needed comic relief. thanks guys.
17:00 That rotating camera shot shoulda proved everything itself.
I've still yet to have just one of them explain why the straight lines of longitude are marked off in degrees of a circle.
My favourite rebuttal from Nathan had to be this gem, 6:53 "so what?" I think he got us guys, we can all go home he really convinced everyone of the flat earth argument there.
Fucking gotem. Can't argue with that
“Ah shit, pack everything up boys, they finally found out.”
Nathan is the sort of guy that when he walks into a room and doesn’t see the idiot. He doesn’t realise it’s HIM.
Self-awareness is NOT their superpower, is it?
It's always him.
I cannot wrap my head around how someone can convince themselves the moon is a light source, for a group of people that insist on using your own senses to make conclusions they are doing a poor job
I love how Nathan Oakley venomously spouts how he knows more than all the scientists in the world while knowing absolutely f*ck all about anything ! 😃😃😃😃
Sadly, Oakley knows exactly what he's doing - he's milking money out of people too dim to realise the con he's pulling.
To be fair if there are people giving that oaf money then more fool them, they deserve to be a little poorer.
The guy is literally a clown since his job is to play stupid for a living.
It's not even an insult, it's just what he does.
Oakley's and others' scam is quite clever. Choose a group that have misplaced incredulity and fleece them out of everything.
@@ShizukuSeiji This is called a stupidity tax.
@@arctic_haze "Nathan's stupidity tax" ??
Love it...
Looks like some poor morrons are paying high interest over his channel...
I really appreciate this presentation style that avoids ridicule and actually tests the FE models and explains how they fail. It’s the the kind of style that’s more likely to persuade.
Unfortunately, persuasion relies on a modicum of willingness to accept logic and facts. When you're dealing with the kind of mentality similar to (and sometimes hand-in-hand with) "God did it" there is no persuasion to be had. It's a lost cause for some, the rest will wake up by themselves given enough time so we may as well just laugh at them.
@@avaggdu1 I disagree actually, waking up from something like this is incredibly embarrassing and sometimes people will double down rather than face the shame. It might be better to be as polite and objective as possible, even encouraging them to challenge their own beliefs. make it clear that changing mindset is a positive thing
@@nwunder right!! we should also tell transgender people directly to their face that they are delusional and embrace the X and Y chromosomes of reality. people who believe in jabs and masks may take a little longer though. peace
@@avaggdu1 absolutely right!! lets laugh at everyone who does not see reality for what it actually is. Lets laugh at transgenders and feminists and socialists and pro jab/mask people. global warming idiots too hahahahahahaha this is great hahahaha...
@@nwunderpeer reviewed studies into belief have shown that the vast majority of people will not change their beliefs when confronted in any argumentative style, and those that do will claim that whichever style that convinced them is the only style that could have done so
For example if they were convinced by an aggressive style that made fun of their beliefs, they'll say they needed to be shocked and forced to confront this info
If they're convinced by a calmly delivered, informative and friendly style, they'll claim that they needed that because they were too proud to admit they were wrong otherwise and so on.
Theres no rhyme, reason, right or wrong. Studies have shown that no style is more likely to persuade, no style is more successful than another, and the method of delivery doesn't seem to many any difference. It's solely on the person hearing it. That's it.
It's a harsh truth because it basically means all attempts to help them are pointless unless they happen to be in the right mood for it that day.
I was just looking at the almost full moon with my binoculars from my porch last night. It was so gorgeous out. I could see the obvious spherical shape of it. For me to say it isn’t obviously spherical would be a total lie from my observations. They’re just either incapable of recognizing a sphere (I would imagine some people are actually that dense) or they’re being totally dishonest.
I've done the same thing with pictures taken with a solar filter. At different times of the day specifically in the morning and around noon. No flat earther that I've ever talked to on RUclips or Instagram can ever answer why it's the same size roughly throughout the day.
One of the interesting things I've noticed recently talking to them. Is they have no idea how vision works yet they are so convinced in what they're seeing. It's absolutely mind boggling.
He tried and failed to destroy your video, but he absolutely demolished my braincells without even trying. :/
I muted the video and put subtitles on on his bits. Less painful
The problem with Nathan is that he doesn't know when to shut his mouth.... which, to be honest in his case, is anytime and forever.
Tbf thats a big problem for many people
The Mark Twain ( I think it was him anyway ) comes to mind: better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
He needs money soo he cant cuz he does not care if he is lying to people.He only cares for himself and money
@@jameshall1300 Abraham Lincoln, but a goodie nontheless.
What always bothered me was, why is the earth flat? Why is everything else spherical? Why lying about a round earth? Also they never seem to make prediction that can be tested, or theories that can be falsified.
What IS the force that makes us "stick" to the earth, what makes moon and sun circle around us?
Where do they come from, what are they made of?
They sure have answers if you ask them but they never bother to test them, never bother with proofs, at least as far as I can tell.
I find it so funny how someone can insult someone's intelligence and name call and act like someone is actually stupid, while making points and claims that are stupid
yes, all flat earthers do that
The fact he sounds so angry that he KNOWS his excuses can't work is what makes me laugh so much about Oakley.
He’s a narcissist and he will get angry to anything that goes against his belief….
@@Spidouz
Honestly, I can't even remember the last time I saw someone who so consistently and extremely yells in response to opposition like that.
in one of the videos he complains that dave never links back to his video so he doesnt make as much money off them - that appears to be his incentive. i doubt many of these alleged flat earthers actually believe in it and are just trying to get as much youtube money out of it as they can.
Nathan calling someone dumb is a great example of projection.
19:00 was a welcome distraction. Watch the dog's eyes and that ball.
Nathan calling someone dumb is about his only argument, that and 'It's CGI'
They can't create a single model of their own theory. They just can't.
This should always be our focus: pushing them over and over to create a single model. We have ours. We're still waiting for theirs.
it always makes me feel better about myself after listening to a flat earther saying the same thing over and over
WE KNOW THE EARTH IS FLAT !! NASA LIES !! NASA STANDS FOR..NOT ALWAYS TELLING TRUTHS.. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A ROCKET SURGEON TO KNOW ITS FLAT !!
You know when someone has lost an argument when they start throwing insults 😂 I love how Dave just talks calmly and clearly explains everything making him the better man (by far). Well done Dave 👍
I am from Germany and we have a saying: „Insults are arguments of someone in the wrong“. Seems to be applicable here.
Well... if you argue with somebody and they just refuse to accept anything, it is very tempting to just call them idiot. Or hit them with a big stick.
@@simonspacek3670 Particularly when they refuse to acknowledge the reality that is staring at them. You can't fix stupid. Best course of action is say what you think of their crass stupidity and cease communications. They aren't about to be educated anyway, whether you insult them or not, and when they compound the problem by insulting you into the bargain...
I should remeber that’s the next time someone starts calling me a dumbass out of the gate when I make an observation (happens far too often)
The problem is with flat earthers none of them agree on a model and so whenever we debate them they can sidestep this sort of proof where a number is needed.
They act like "We don't know", which is an honest and respectable answer for *some* things, is the appropriate answer for just about everything.
@@seeddub3536 that and the disagreement benefits them because they can just do AN Oakley and go I don't claim X every time there debate
@@seeddub3536 Flerfers: "We don't know what shape the earth is" Scientists: "here's 10 easily provable things that proves earth's sphere shape" Flerfers: "Like we said, we have no evidence for the shape of the earth"
@@SuperPickle15 Haha pretty much sums it up
@SuperPickle15 Yeah their only comebacks for all this proof are literally just "nuh uh"
Why are flat-earthers so aggressive I guess cuz they're just flat-out rude.😅
I've only discovered this channel, and you're hilarious! Your sense of humor is on point.
Keep it up!
I doubt Nathan had ever used a telescope as it would immediately debunk his claims.
He doesn’t need one, he has his Nikon whatever it is! Completely the same as the JWST!
I doubt Nathan could work out which end of a telescope to look through.
Implying Nathan can look through his own ass.
@@mathdesm9306 nah, he would have to stick his P800 up there to see if he can find any curve.
He could always use a doorstop. Not sure he'd have any other use for it.
Another great video Dave. Some advice for you from Mark Twain: “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
That's a good one!! True True!!
it is a good saying, true, yet it is a one of those that is falsely designated as Mark Twain's. infact, he said: "never argue with an idiot, onlookers wont be able to tell the difference". similar, but not the same.
@@S-L-J I guess my google search results were wrong.
Never play chess with a pidgeon. It will throw pieces down, shit on a board and fly off to brag about victory.
@@S-L-J He made like one a day for like 3 years straight or something, there are so many, so it's possible he said both! Heres one I pull out when someone talks shit, then challenges you, and can't even get past the first question, and you rip them a new one right there, end it with:
It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain
Nathan Oakley is the kind of person who would think hugging alligators has medicinal value
Gator - ade
A salty from Australia lol
i love the way flatties go on that pictures of the globe earth are CGI, yet they don't even have a picture of anything. lol. love your vids.
Once I was arguing with a flat earther that thought that there was no southern hemisphere. Needless to say as a New Zealander I was pretty confused. Apparently I was living in southern China.
So... how was the cha siu bao?
@@martinbaxter4783 sweet as bro!
It always blows my mind how indignant and angry they sound. How can you be that angry when they’re the ones misconstruing data
It's because he's a grifter. He has to sound angry because otherwise his sheep might start thinking.
@@5peciesunkn0wn ^this. he doesn't even believe what he's saying, he just wants to stir up shit and get more views from idiots. It's the same business model as Alex Jones.
@@5peciesunkn0wnyup. When their broken logic gets exposed they will ALWAYS turn to ad hominem, mockery, or changing the subject to different questions that aren’t relevant to the ones you’ve just destroyed 😅
@@GeneralBlorp I, as a person I am, cannot stand conspiracy theories. But this... this looks almost like a f-ing religion
Ima go to Africa where they have to worry bout food and not this crap
Because in the absence of understanding, people will agree with whoever sounds more confident. Anger is the best substitute for confidence they have, and sadly, it works.
As someone trained in celestial navigation, I’ll go one further and state after you calculate dip, the math used to reduce the sights to lines of position is spherical trigonometry, the science of measuring triangles overlayed on a sphere.
My Mom and Dad had a saying: You cannot get 10 amps through a 5 amp fuse, and it is not the fault of the fuse. Bless their hearts, they just don't have the wattage to handle these facts.
Now, if you could find the person who is putting a 5 amp fuse in our 10 amp circuit......
Folks it is not the flat earthers fault. Somebody had to teach them this stuff. I suggest we all go out and find our least favorite flat earther and give them a hug then go home and put them on your prayer list.
Having to resort to insults is just another way of saying i have no rational argument.
Nathan:
"If you cannot answer someone's argument, do not panic. You can always call them names."--Oscar Wilde
These videos feel like the teacher having to repeat something to the back of the class
Awesome video again, Dave.
I love how angry Nathan gets, frothing on his own confusion, ignorance, and insanity. He is the very definition of stupid.
I'll never stop recounting the time I saw Oakley repeatedly goading prominent debunker Conspiracy Catz for being scared to answer him in the chat on one Oakley's live streams.
"What's the matter, Catz? Scared?
"Everyone can see how scared you are, Catz"
"I'm glad everyone can see your true colours, finally!"
After a while I began to grow suspicious and said "bet he blocked Catz before he started all that shit talking"
Catz suddenly says "huh, is Nathan talking to me?!"
My message was deleted and I was put in time out.
I wouldnt put it past his "debate forum" that 10thMan or any other of his lackeys mutes somebody mid discussion to silence their rebuttal.
Never debate pseudoscience. For the same reason you don’t try to negotiate with bacteria.
@@mizquitl Yeah, he doesn't let you talk really. You start to make a point and he insantly insults you while telling you how wrong you are. He gives 0 evidence while making fun of you saying you are wrong. If you try and respond he will mute you till his rant is over. When he lets you "respond" he lets you say a couple words then mutes you to call you names again. He doesn't actually let people have a rebuttal because he just mutes you and calls you names.
@@coryv5679 That's insane... But on the other hand the only way he could come out on top xD
he did block him. i remeber that. ffaf
One of the best compilations of simple flat earth debunks I've seen. Apparently, it appears, the refrain "flat earthers are even dumber than I thought" will live forever in my mind, consistently reaffirmed. Thanks.
For a flat earther the word “debunk” just means “deny”
Omg that Nathan guy is a complete ass! Good on you, Dave, for keeping your cool when refuting his BS. I get so angry with people at his level of idiocy. Your method is much more effective 😅
The people who say "do your own research" never want to try the experiments that would show them to be wrong.
And when they do, they have to pretend it didn't happen or make up a new excuse why they got that result.
@@ntdscherer Like Bob the Knob and his gyroscope mishap.
@@skullmanjay8497 That was amazing.
Because they have nothing to show themselves right! Nothing but trying to talk their fantasy into existence, not a single viable experiment yet!
Or jeranism, whose vigorously announced Victoria Canal experiment (for the same documentary) confirmed the exact amount of curvature the globe model expects which he found "interesting" -- but is no longer referenced on his channel. Or jeranism, who personally proved the ISS is exactly where "they" say it is -- then deleted that video as well after presumably discovering how quick the people paying his bills are to call him a NASA shill based on the results of his experiments...
If this your first encounter with Nathan Oakley? Nathan Oakley has a particular 'debate' style (using the term loosely). Make no claims (so can never be debunked), and attempt to debunk all opposing viewpoints with semantics, mis conceptions and outright lies. Welcome to a debate with Nathan Oakley.
On a separate note, over the course of the month, there is a slight wobble that allows us to see about 59% of the moon's surface. if we can see more than half, and at all times the moon looks 'round' for all directions/perspectives, then it has to be a 3D sphere. It cannot be 'flat', it can ONLY be a sphere.
No joke, some flat earthers say that's just the plasma regenerating.
Look up "Stereoscope photos Moon". Photographers taking photos of the moon a few months apart makes use of the Moons Libration and gives a very 3D view (some better than others). If you have a VR head set (or similar) they work really well. If not, but you can cross your eyes well, then copy the image, crop and save the two halves separately, swap their positions and display side by side on a screen and cross your eyes. You will have two flat images flanking a beautiful 3D image in the middle :) The Moon looks like a ball stuck on a black background. :)
@@cygnustsp Or a hologram... 😆🌜
It changes shape, obvs! Why? Uh, magic or something?
Wrong Globetard. The other 41% is a pyramid shape. Built by ancient aliens.
The sun being 2500 miles away is the funniest flat earth argument I think I’ve heard 😂😂
Factor 50000 sun cream anyone
I hope the cord don't break.
I always say when they start to use verbal abuse in a debate, they`ve already lost the debate !!!
Nathan doesn't want answers. He wants to scream at people.
he needs prof. brian cox to give him a good slapping 😉
Yet Nathan Oakley cannot give a flat earth model that can actually explain itself.
That is why flat earthers cannot prove the earth being flat.
Flat earthers fr are the best at disprooving a flat Earth 😂😂🤣🤣💀
I can’t believe the shape of the Earth is still a debate in 2023😂😂
There is no debate, We just point out how dumb the flurf cult are.
there are people that believe in astrology in 2023 so flat earth is not too much of a stretch
Most flat earth people don’t actually believe what they say. They just do this to make money. The more they rant and huff and puff the more views they get. Yes some people believe those are the ones who pay these fools to be lied to they are not smart enough to understand the science.
its getting worse as time goes by, the average person has no idea the amount of science and engineering that goes into making a computer chip, cell phone, digital camera, internet, so many thing are dismissed as the flat moron says they don't make sense, but use product that work yet they don't understand the science
@@FeelFREESuper that's the high priests.