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Question on the FE app, who are all the people who show up in the people finder feature? Is it just for show or do they actually have the app? That's not real users surely?
I don't, but everyone I know does lol. Got my dad using a password manager, but many people are just too bad with tech to use one.
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In this day and age when you need an account for pretty much everything I find it crazy that people would use the same password for like 20 different apps/e-mails/websites/services...
7:20 Im a web developer. You never store passwords. Not even encrypted. What you store is hashed password. You use an algorithm that basically generates a unique key based on the password that you can re-generate to match against in to a re-entered password. That is a base level thing. Even then I would recommend doing something called "Salt and pepper" the password. You mix the password with a global key and a user specific key so that even A) the password doesn't match a hash of another service but B) so that even if you have two users with the same password their stored hash key are not the same. Doing less than this means that you are a complete amateur and should not be releasing services to the public.
@@MCToon That is unacceptable. I'd be so paranoid of accidentally giving out passwords, it would make me feel really bad if people had info taken from something I made. I guess you have to have a conscience to think that way.
@@hartmutholzgraefe The dev (singular) apparently still answer's Dave's calls. The developer is in the Punjab. To say he is a junior developer is to give him way more credit than he deserves. The design of the app is a mess. The database is not normalized. While we haven't seen the direct schema, the API returns unfiltered row content, including 2 or 3 different IDs depending on what the endpoint. These IDs are different keys to different tables, but they don't appear to have any foreign key constraints, nor understand the concept of not duplicating data. Different endpoints returning different data return overlapping data from other endpoints. I suspect the developer doesn't even know how to do a join.
@@MCToon Sooooo, I'm not a programmer or a database person, but I'm incredibly tempted to see if joining the app with the name of Bobby Tables would cause interesting things to happen... (see also xkcd #327)
Context. It might have been too subtle for you. Watch at a slower speed. Repeat. You’ll get it. Everybody can be intelligent; it just generally takes educated people longer.
I honestly didn't think a human being could be delusional to this degree until i listened to the ramblings of a flat earther, then to top it off they all get conned from scammers to buy products just like that clown Alex Jones.
Are you seeing the top or the bottom of said mountains though? You will obviously see the top because it is high above the limit of your line of sight at ground/sea level, you can only see approximately 3 miles away from you at ground level to ground level with just your eyes. I wish globers would think about what they are actually saying.
"How did they make a globe when no one had seen it?" Probably the same way they dug a tunnel from France to England and vice versa simultaneously yet managed to meet in the middle - maths!
Hahahaha. Perfect. Thank you for this brilliant comment. “They” used a DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE to “prove” Earth is a Nature defying SpacePear. Amazing science. Too bad Natural, applied Physics and Chemistry proves Earth is NOT a SpacePear, but in FACT a motionless Plane with various Topographical features. Welcome to “flat earth”.
@@dickwayne7744 It would be more accurate to say: "They used logical reasoning." "Applied physics an d chemistry" never proved a flat earth. Not even supporting it in any way.
@@wncjan Nah, it's very simple. Even if the body dies, the spirit lives on. Normally they would be ghosts and go hount people. Others establish government agencies.
He understands his target audience: a lot of gullible and intellectually lazy people. He KNOWS they'll just take his word for it. Remember, he's a scammer and doesn't believe these incorrect claims.
I went to Antarctica about 15 years ago. I worked in the Kitchen at McMurdo Station. I was there for a year. Amazing place and I can confirm there is indeed sunlight for 24 hours.
you saw the sun for 24 hours not just light? you have proof of this ? the cameras they have down there do not show a 24 hour sun- they speed all their videos up and cut out time segments!
@@maximumbees Uh.. lies and stuff cuz da authority is bad. Something like that. Some anti-authority fall into to insane conspiracies lol. Still wondering why the other planets are spherical, but I got banned last time I asked a flat earth discord lol.
@@WahrheitMachtFrei. I'm wondering why if Flalt Earth Dave thinks the Space X rocket catch is a hoax and CGI, why didn't they go to the landing site to film and prove it was a hoax?
Be interesting to see if people on the west side of Antarctica showed up as close to people on the east side of Antarctica, since on pizzaworld they would have to be 16,000 miles away.
@@khandimahn9687 It would be hilarious if all the people stationed in antarctica for research and whatnot just downloaded the app to troll the honest users lmfao
Storing Usernames, Passwords and other PII in Cleartext so data thieves can steal your identity: Well, hope that Mastercard has good fraud protection in place.
I love how he keeps calling the UN a "world controlling organization". Anyone familiar with real geopolitics knows the UN is woefully underpowered. Do they think the UN wants North Korea and Afghanistan doing the shit they're doing?
The way flerfers and conspiracy nuts talk about the UN, it's an omnipotent one-world government. Here is reality the UN is the exact opposite: a profoundly impotent organization that is unable to solve the crises that plague the world.
It's extremely easy to decompile apps. The fact the users/passwords are saved as plain text on a website is actually frightening! No hashes no private IP locked access no nothing 🤦
@@Gandhi_Physique And even worse, an API must *never* return passwords. The API should check if the hashed password is correct, if so generate a session token and return that token for that particular authorized user.
@@Gandhi_Physique hashed together with the username, salted and encrypted. If you hash+salt the password alone, then if two users have the same password then they'll get the same hash. That's bad. If you don't salt, then you are vulnerable if the passwords are short. If you don't encrypt and someone steals your database and your source code they may be able to crack the passwords offline. So you hash with the username (which is unique), you salt, and you HMAC using the password itself as key.
How can they have used a globe as thier logo in the 1920s, when we didnt go to space until the 1960s? Hi, this is Atlas from the 2nd century. You might have heard of me.
@@freddan6fly Look it up sweetheart; what Atlas is holding in that famous statue is the celestial sphere. It's okay to be wrong about something; but it looks really stupid to refuse to be corrected by someone who knows better, when you clearly don't.
Calling that hacking reminds me of when Josh Renaud (journalist for St. Louis Post-Dispatch) was almost charged with hacking for viewing HTML and seeing that a website leaked SSNs right in the HTML. Dude just hit F12.
Even funnier, it's all teacher's SSNs and stored in a comment. It's like if a court document redact things by coloring the background black. And the reason those SSNs were there is so user can autocomplete it, which is extra hillarious.
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 This just reminds me of when some classified documents were released in a redacted manner, but the redactions were added by placing black rectangles over the sensitive information. However when the documents were loaded by a computer, the black rectangles were loaded last, so if your computer was slow enough, you could cancel the load after the text but before the rectangles appeared, thus viewing the documents in their entirety. Fun stuff.
FE Dave said "If your stupid enough to use the same password." Did he forget that 600k people were stupid enough to buy his app? 100% of flerfs are stupid enough to use the same password for everything.
Majority of normal people are reusing passwords. We don’t want to remember a new password for every single website. That’s why we are moving away from password to 2FA.
No it doesnt... its just a bad statement of mckeegan... he is using a preset system anyone of us has to use while doing something like that wr have to rely and given infos... The code of real GPS cant be lopked at for a very good reason...
And while he's right about "you should not use the same password for different services" we know that the reality is different. It is already bad enough when encrypted passwords get leaked, but this service obviously didn't bother to use best practice -- a one-way hash -- or at least two way encryption, but obviously stored them in clear text. Makes me wonder whether that backdoor API call was actually added by the actual developers to scam both DITRHs users *and* himself ...
@@muskyoxes That appears to be the current FE strategy: "we don't have a map, we don't have a model, we don't know what the sun is, we don't know the distance to anything... so we can't be wrong ever"
@@juanausensi499I love telling those flerfs 'if you don't have any alternative measurements, then you don't know what it can *not* be. So thank you for admitting the globe is reality!"
I loved when FE Dave claimed that when the rockets land on the drone ships they cut away then cut to it sitting on the ship, while uncut video in the background shows a rocket landing on a drone ship.
@@JMon2021 he’s also try to imply that landed rocket was always there and the flying one was fake. Of course the video he plays behind him shows he’s lying, he doesn’t actually care about the intelligence of his audience.
one thing ya left out with the underwater iss part. The refraction from the helmets makes the astronauts heads look tiny underwater but we don't see that when they are in space.
Dave does point that in his stand alone video about the "underwater ISS". Maybe he skipped it for brevity - it is an hour long video. Not that we would mind extra 10-15 minutes 😄
The argument about the Universal Pictures logo is also goofy because they didn't start using a globe in 1927, but rather 1923, and what he shows is actually an updated logo. Tell me you didn't research it without telling me you didn't research it...
Dirth claiming his site was hacked is like accusing someone of going to the trouble of picking the lock on the door to the house, yet all they did was mention ”you do realise you forgot to fit a door to the door frames? Anyone can just walk in!”
@ oh there’s a house there alright . It’s a ”Wendy house” as in one of those kids play houses. Cheap fabric over plastic frame. In other words it’s trying to present itself as the real thing. A solid and elaborate building that in reality is a scam of a facade
@@leftpastsaturn67 Troll Bots really don’t like when they get trolled with truth. Your buddy McTool hates being trolled with truth. He blocks people that troll with truth.
@@pierreboissonneault I suppsoe there's some truth to that. But Trump is rich and powerful; he's insulated from consequences. Dave is just some small time buIIsh1t artist. If the EU goes after him, they'll crush him.
That annoying smile. That drug "this thing I don't understand? It's laughable" attitude. The constant gishgalloping The constant need to be the only one talking, pushing everyone aside and talking over them because he craves attention.
@@DaveMcKeegan After he said "that's not my password, it's my old password" and then he changed it. And his new password was then again sent to him, after he changed it. Pretty funny.
he really called MCToon an "anti-flat earth troll" despite him rarely raising his voice above talking level and showing nothing but proof in every episode why the earth isn't flat.
You clearly have not seen McTools Act. “Proof” doesn’t exist in his deranged Mind. Never seen him Act out like an emotionally unstable 5 year old going all red faced and rage quit? It is easy to find. Just watch his Act when challenged by people far more intelligent and articulate than he could ever be.
I will say it again" He is making money on flat earth! This is the only reason he talks about it. He didnt accept that Final expedition to prove 24h day, because it would end his "job". Thank you.
I recently saw a clip from the OG Transformers cartoon where Megatron catches Starscream in a scheme, and tells him “You are either lying, or you’re stupid!” Which I feel is the perfect response to most flat earth topics.
It works in so many cases. Sometimes, there's the secret third thing, active ignorance. You get the feeling something is up, so you deliberately avoid learning about it.
@@nightmareTomek It i and it isn't. Most of them know the answers already but just pretend not to know. DITRH is one of the best examples, he says things knowinbg full well that they have been refuted, such as Mars = Devon Island, that he knows his marks are nt going to bother checking him on. In may cases they are just pretend the correct information doesn't exist. Watch Witsit give his citations, look you x and you will find y while not giving enough information to easily fact check him.
I find it amazing how they think that a globe conspiracy would be so incompetent to give up their game in their logos, but competent enough to fool everyone.
The stars don't move? Perhaps he should start buying old editions of Nortons' Star Atlas and compare the charts over time. Then he will know they DO move in relationship to each other.
@@dickwayne7744 so someone in the past, based on the information they had available to then at the time, chose a bad name. So what? We have lots of examples of that, like "virus" actually meaning poison, the "Big bang" actually having produced no sound, etc. So what was your point again?
_"The stars don't move?"_ indeed. I guest "they" update the nautical almanac (used for celestial navigation) with new star positions for nothing every year/few years.
@@hartmutholzgraefe Wow. Are you suggesting those people of the past didn’t observe, record and track the movements of the Luminaries? What about the 100’s if not 1000’s of structures built all over Earth that line up with the different Luminaries? Some only line up with them on very specific days. Not to mention the fact they still line up with them today. In short. My point is. Your Religious Idols Dave McKeegan and McTool are liars and grifters and Bigots.
In a town where the sun sets and rises anew, Lived a scammer named DIRTH telling stories untrue. With a grin and a scheme, he would spew his tall tales, Claiming the round earth was just glober fails. He'd stand on a street corner, face full of cheer, "It's flat as a pancake! Take a gander, my dear! No curves in the ocean, no roundness to find, Come join me in truth! Leave the globe earth behind!" But the folks rolled their eyes and just walked right on by, While DIRTH shook in frustration 'neath the wide open sky. For though he believed no one's smarter than DIRTH, He'd never convince them of flat pizza earth.
It's always been so telling to me that since I was a teenager with an Apple Macintosh, I have been able to run a program that shows me what the sky will look like at my location for any day and date for centuries in either direction. Yet no flat Earth model can simulate their motions and match anything I see outside.
Been a couple decades since I last saw that guy's name come up in anything. (He was in some stoner movie with Dave Chappelle in the early 2000s, right? Am I thinking of the right guy?)
"Nobody leaves flat earth," because as soon as someone tries all of you start saying that they're grifters or that they were never really a flat-earther in the first place. You immediately "other" the people that do step away.
The immediate in-fighting that the Final Experiment thing caused was glorious - The globe-side/skeptics/debunkers were all excited to see which would get picked to go and some wanted to join and go together, the flat earthers started cannibalizing anyone who even thinks about going. For free. To do an experiment that would forever "prove" their side.
Pretty sure most people who were *dedicated* to flat earth left to more engaging conspiracies, like QAnon. It's like trutherism, many people now have "911 was an inside job" as part of their general bullshit mindscape, but only a handful are still protesting and demanding investigations.
@@mattstanford9673 I love his other sales pitch. Don’t watch this playlist unless you are ready to lose all your family and friends. He even says watching said playlist is guaranteed to make you a flerf.
I'm another one. After 5 years of flat earth research, I was there with them. Until your videos. It's unfortunate there are so many debunkers that do a horrible job of that. But not this channel. Globe proof galore.
The fact he even stores the passwords in clear text (or in a decodable format) is a big NO NO in programming. Passwords should be stored hashed (not encrypted). And there is no reason to even expose that through his api.
The oldest preserved globe is Martin Behaim's "Erdapfel" (earth apple) exhibited in Nuremberg, Germany. It is from from 1492, and so America is missing on this globe.
So. “They” figured out the Earth was a “globe” down to almost its exact claimed Radius in Ancient Greek times, but knew nothing about the Americas existence? Makes perfect sense 🙄
@dickwayne7744 what doesn't make sense? They knew the earth is a sphere shape because it was measured. They didn't know about areas they haven't been to, yet.
@Netto9620 nothing was debunked. Nice lie...i mean try tho 🤣🤣🤣🙉🙊🙈🤣🤣🤣. Typical curvians and their delusion of the satanic spinning space pear fairy tale indoctrination.
I love his defence that it only leaked what they were already sharing with other users of the app. Completely side stepping the fact that the data is available to the entire world. Dick Is Trying Really Hard to pretend it’s no big deal.
Terrible. “Im a scammer”. McTool took Dave out of context, cherry picked those specific words and uses them in a pathetic attempt to discredit him. This makes your Hero McTool a LIAR and straight up pos. This makes you a LIAR for quoting Dave as saying this. This makes FAILED utoob Photographer turned “flat earth fighter” GRIFTER @DaveMcKeegan a LIAR and straight up pos.
@@leftpastsaturn67 How so? Would it actually hurt you to provide any evidence that refutes what I say or answer the simple questions? I know copy and pasting from the Troll Bot script is super scientific and all…but…
What is secure? Do you know how many times your data has been breached? Data held on the most secure servers isnt safe. You do realize your name, address, phone number are public record? If someone is intent on doing you harm, they don't need a janky app to do it. I mean you found this channel, right?
@holdtheline-gm8en i think you didn't grasp the extent to which it isn't secure. It does not have problems with security because it has no security measures, not standard ones, at all, by design. There are design mistakes that freshman student with no prior experience would make. Products of this quality should never handle sensitive data.
Sudden thought: Hans Holbein's famous painting 'The Ambassadors' has a globe in it. It was painted in 1533. It also has a celestial globe in it, showing the positions of the stars.
If the light atop the moon is "from the firmament," doesn’t that disprove all the flat earthers who say "we don't even know what the moon is made of, it's probably a projection!" Didn't know projected images could reflect other light sources.
@deanl5832 You must be a new flat earth convert, dummy. MANY flerfs say it's a projection, but go ahead & pretend they don't. Flerfs are great at ignoring what they don't want to hear.
@@deanl5832 Oh bless, that was an amusing tantrum. Add some more emojis and really ram home the fact that you have the emotional maturity of a doormat.
When you were talking about the speed and aerodynamics of the shuttle i was thinking "in kerbal space program you always wait until you're past most of the atmosphere before reaching your top speed, the speed before then is to get past the atmosphere" Nice to know he could just play a video game to learn more
So the Sun sets because the camera (our eyes) is below the Horizon.... wait, that would put me below ground level. And wait a little more, from the top of a 70 story building, the Sun still sets. How is the top of that 70 story building below ground level?
Flat Earthers remind me of when I was 8 years old and I thought by tying a balloon to a letter to Santa Claus and letting it float, it would reach the North Pole
The radio signal part is hilarious, because it shows they can't even bother with enough research to check TWO videos, to try and debunk them with the correct info...two things...its no wonder they don't understand anything else if they aren't even willing to check 2 videos and make sure they talk about the correct one.
Flat Earth explanations all seem to work when you look at just one variable. The mechanics of a system of Earth, moon, sun, planets, stars, gravity, optics, and so much more, requires hundreds of variables. Looking at just one variable isolated from all those mechanics makes it easy to describe that variable in many different ways: the earth might be a globe, flat, or a decahedron, it might be spinning or not, it might be moving or not, etc. Looking at one variable at a time makes almost anything possible. Where Flat Earth fails is when you try to put all their single-variable explanations into a model where ALL of them work together, it's just impossible. They can't even get SOME of them together and are not even close to getting ALL of them together. That's why guys like Flat Earth Dave can talk about the perspective elevation of the sun seeming to get closer to the horizon at sunset but never ever try to include the unchanging size of the sun at the same time - he can't even get just TWO variables to work together in this failed explanation.
I don't think it works even on the lowest level. The circling lampshade sun is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it. The coffee cup caustic is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it. Density and buoyancy is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it
It's always like that. You end up playing whack a mole with their arguments. "Debunked that one? It's okay, here's another one" Doesn't matter that they conflict, the goal is to just wear you out to the point you're sick of arguing, so they "win"
@@gmw3083 In between stars is a whole lot of space. No, more space than that. No, more space than that too. A whole lot of space. Note that it doesn't matter if you believe this explanation. You challenged the mere _existence_ of an explanation, and it turns out to be super basic.
I don't get why flat earthers are claiming the Falcon (and now Starship) landings are fake. They could just say these rockets never went beyond the firmament, and came back. Sometimes I think they get their jollys by convincing people of absolutely stupid things.
It's the general logic of the conspiracist mindset. If the rocket launch and recovery were real, then they couldn't pour scorn on anyone who thinks that they're real.
Did FE Dave actually write all the code himself? The omission of basic security features is the sort of thing you see from someone who's developing an app in their spare time.
I've been a software developer for over 30 years. Misspellings in code are the norm rather than the exception. For some reason, programmers are generally awful at spelling and grammar. It drives me nuts.
@@howzittoyah true, but you should be thinking about the humans who also have to read your code in the future. If we didn't have to care about maintainability, we could all just code in binary: the computer doesn't care.
@ He interviewed at least one of them (that I’m aware of), and supported their claims. Which is not a surprise, because his podcast is full of scientific nonsense anyway.
@@juzoli Joe Rogan doesn't believe or promote FE. This was covered in his resent podcast with Brian Cox (a scientist, not anti science). So, like a Flerf, you are spreading misinformation. You should try to avoid that in the future.
@@juzoli Give a name, at least. I don't think that ever happened. I can tell you he made fun of them, like, for example, in his Neil deGrasse Tyson interview.
Even if Parsons and Hubbard both for a while were followers of Crowley, they weren't particularly best friends which had something to do with Hubbard stealing Parsons's girlfriend Sara and both of them stealing Parsons's savings.
Parsons also summoned a storm (which just happened to occur at the time) to wreck Hubbard's stolen yacht- and then got convinced by Hubbard that it was all a mistake 😭 I feel bad for Parsons, he was gullible and assholes like Hubbard took advantage of him.
@@robadams1645Far before. Parsons died in 1952 (he had been let go by the Government due to his... occultness), and Hubbard was off with Scientology by 1954. Jack Parson did assist founding JP Laboratories, but NASA was created in 1958.
If a telescope can magnify the sun at sunset, there should be no problem seeing the sun all night long just by magnifying it with a powerful telescope. We actually have telescopes that focus exclusively at the sun (only during day mind you). So if the sun is not really setting but just getting farther away then why can't these solar observatories work around the clock, day and night? Same goes for ships at sea.
@vaiyt it would be funny, but this is pretty much similar to smth a flat earther said to me. First told me that those are NASA CGI, photos that i myself took and then that it is a chip in my telescope and then in my camera. Funnily enough it was a Nikon D5200 for the normal astrophotos. But it does show their way of thinking. It looks fake to them and they never would do it themselves so it's definitely 'NASA CGI'. Impressive how the H-Alpha and whitelight photos of the sun are matching NASAs in real time.
@@meloneyit's even more amusing when it's a homemade telescope. Yes. Several people have made their own telescopes and taken photos through it and flerfs claimed nasa microchips. In purely optical, manual telescopes...
@@5peciesunkn0wn I've made my own telescopes, it's not even that hard if you source the mirror so don't have to grind it yourself. These guys could easily do the same, but of course they know that they're just spewing mumbo jumbo so aren't going to do anything that might actually prove they're wrong. Plenty of other Flerfers have fallen into that trap.
a small correction on the shuttle. the main engines stop firing when the main tank is dropped. at that point the shuttle is still at a suborbital path. the OMS system fires up to finish the last accelleration into a a stable orbit (and is also used for other changes to the orbit), which is the two smaller rocket engines you can see in the rear on the shuttle.
He had some good ones in this too but my favourite Flat Earth Dave quotes ever come from his debate against Dave Farina. Long live: - spectroscopy needs a container - the moon is made of gas - daylight doesn't come from the sun - the fact he thinks the sun is a campfire in space
Find it hilarious that he talks about "provable and repeatable experiments" and ignore that a round Earth has been proven with repeatable experiments for thousands of years
I’m so happy to live on a round globe surrounded by space, stars and planets. What a boring place it would be with no space, a goldfish bowl over us and no space travel.
Whenever flerfs start talking about the inverse square law I always ask them what I can input into an inverse square equation that would output zero. I have yet to get an answer...
The fact that his app uses globe maths is the smoking gun. Hes a fraud, liar, fake, shill, etc you pick lol. Has he been confronted about that yet? Lol i want to see it
Your ability to keep a straight face while making these videos is seriously impressive. It must be so hard not to laugh. "They're not mountains, they're clouds" is my absolute favourite flat earth debunk so far, I can't wait for someone to try to use that photo to prove to me that the earth is flat. I've personally been at the top of Snowdon and no, you definitely can't see the alps.
How much money has FED made with his app? I bet it's half a mil? He has no financial justification to do the trip that could possibly devastate his entire means of income.
As far as I can tell the claim that L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley had anything to do with NASA stems from their connection with Jack Parsons, but this is silly, as Parsons wasn't a founder of NASA (given he blew himself up 1952, and NASA was founded in 1958, this would have been difficult). Yes, Parsons was involved in the foundation of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but he left that in 1944, and by the time of his death his main work was making pyrotechnics for the movie industry. My suspicion is that what's happened here is something quite common in conspiracist literature, which is that the tale has grown with the telling. It's likely to have begun with "Jack Parsons, founder of the JPL , owned by NASA, was an occultist (true) and had close connections with L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley (also true), and somehow morphed over time into "Jack Parsons, a founder of NASA, was an occultist, etc., and finally into "Jack Parsons, Aleister Crowley, and L. Ron Hubbard were among the founders of NASA," which is simply not true at all. Neither Hubbard nor Crowley ever had anything to do with the JPL, and Parsons was only one of several men (it was the 1930s and 1940s, of course they were all men) involved in forming the JPL. Parson was kicked out in 1944 due to his involvement in the occult, illicit drugs, and orgies - all seen as potential security issues in someone working on classified government projects. The JPL only teamed up with Von Braun in 1954, a decade after Parsons' departure and about two years after his death. Thus "Jack Parsons, one of the founders of the JPL was an occultist and associated with L. Ron Hubbard (who was involved in the same occult circles at the time) and Aleister Crowley" is just a piece of trivia, nothing more.
33:40 The physics involved for rockets that are still in high atmospheric pressures is insane. When they approach max q, rockets throttle back until the air gets thinner because of the stress that's encountered.
Ooh! If you wanna see a rocket that _doesn't_ throttle back for max q look up the Sprint missile! Accelerates at 100 g and had an ablative heat shield _on the front_ to handle punching up through the atmosphere at Mach 10 Footage of them looks like it's been sped up but you can see the tip glowing red hot even as it leaves its silo Massively impressive bit of kit designed to intercept an ICBM incoming from near-orbit at Mach 24, in the atmosphere, seconds before impact Abandoned after less than a year of operation because 1. It was extremely expensive. and 2. They realized that building a ton of them would prompt the Soviets to build more warheads, which would _increase_ the chance of an accidental launch Possibly one of the missiles that the game Missile Command is based on (If you don't know the story behind the development of Missile Command, it's well worth looking up too.)
So… nobody wants to go to Antarctica because **checks notes** ….they’re too lazy or afraid? Well, if that doesn’t fly in the face of tens of thousands of years of the innate human condition to explore, and seek discovery…. 🤦🏻♂️
Didn't they have little desk sized globes on most ships in the 1700s? That was way before space pictures. It's not like you NEED a picture of something to know what it looks like. There are people who have been blind their whole life and they can draw things that are recognizable
based on the shape of the earth, we can make predictions of the movements of celestial objects. the sun in antarctica proves that the earth is a sphere.
@RidgewayMountainhauser i'm not agreeing with him, his sentence is basically him telling on his own ignorance (if we consider the "we" in his sentence to refer to flat earthers) But I realise maybe that wasn't super clear with how i worded it. But yeah. They don't understand the sky. Or the ground for that matter.
My neighbors are legit flat earthers. He asked if I ever wanted to chat since I was “so invested in the space thing”. lol. That referring to my amateur astronomy habit, and rocket launch and space enthusiasm in general. lol. I tend to not make my points (even ones I know well and understand) to certain personality types- and this neighbor is one of them. They just sort of get louder and meaner and more demeaning. I’m more of a catch more bees with honey type. Explain to me rationally why you believe what you do and I’ll do the same. While I know we will never agree, I have become more interested in not letting my neighbor flat earthers act like some enlightened intellectuals. He wears shirts like “Your ignorance is their superpower” The thing is they are also my actual neighbors and you gotta try to keep that friendly for a peaceful life- so I just agree to disagree. When the little 7 year old came over and saw our model rockets etc she said my dad said earth is flat. I thought to myself- ok this is tricky …. Not my kid to parent, not my business… so all I said was that I respectfully disagreed and that grown ups don’t know everything yet so maybe she should look into it and read about it and decide for herself one day…. I mean she’s 7 so she’s likely just learning the planets in school if that. I just think it puts her in a bad spot as she gets older and eventually old enough to know it’s wrong. We shall see. In the meantime I’ll continue with my little “space hobbies” and we’ll see how it all turns out. I mean I’ve been wrong before too. 🤷♀️.
Let them watch the globular moon and planets with your telescope, nothing wrong with that and it's fun 😊 Especially Jupiter and it's moons are good for that.
@ IKR! I’ve offered more than once! Even set them out front a couple of times and shared with neighbor kids and a couple other neighbors. He will not even entertain the idea! It’s crazy. That’s what makes me more intrigued actually- because it’s such an anti science and math way to handle what he believes in….. but he disguises it as he just can’t handle entertaining the silly idea of the neighbor girl. 🤷♀️ I’ll try again soon though because winter skies are my favorite stargazing skies.
The astronauts don't exhale bubbles, that's the support divers in the pool. The spacesuit is a self contained system that has a rebreather build into it, so it is not open circuit. Not that this makes any difference in reality... Dave is still a grifter...
I know MC Toon doesn't really go into his religion all that much, but I've seen him use the "devout Christian" defense for Von Braun a couple times now, and it just doesn't really hold water. There are a lot of devout Christians who do terrible things and some who are flerfs. It just doesn't really warrant discussion.
He's just countering the impression that flerfs like to give, which is that Von Braun was a Nazi at NASA. And, since so many flerfs claim to be Christians themselves, it highlights their hypocrisy in not mentioning this.
That made me really uncomfortable honestly. Von Braun being a part of NASA WAS messed up, and we can admit that without it affecting the overall argument.
@jaybirdsgames yep. That's part of what makes our arguments more valid, the fact that we aren't using character purity tests to decide valid math and science.
Yeah, I mean even though it says nothing about the validity of his science or his credentials in the field of rocketry, it still seems like a weak defense. Just reading through his Wikipedia page, I have no idea if the allegations against him are true. But it appears that he was not held accountable in part because he claimed to have only been going through the motions of compliance to avoid scrutiny.
The oldest globe is from 1492, and the oldest mention of a globe is from 150 BCE. Flat earth Dave is a grifter. He 100% knows the earth isn’t flat. He lies because it makes him some money. He’s pathetic.
It's only the oldest extant globe meant for actual cartographic use. There surviving Roman scuptures that depict globes for artistic purposes, held up by Atlas, for example.
Now, wait a second... when I go on a drug or alcohol-fuel rant and start making up a ton of lies like Flat Earth Dave does, people just look at me strange and start whispering about calling the police. So how is he getting away with it???
With all the civilian accessible space flight coming in the future these grifters know the gravy train is running out of fuel. They need to scam as much money out of the masses as possible in the next few years before they are out of a job.
That's silly. These "people" are so averse to reality, they'll just claim everyone who goes to space is part of the conspiracy, or... I don't know, the people who return from there are doppelgangers replacing the real person, and the real one was killed. These people will form a flat Mars society, claiming that Earth doesn't exist, once Mars is colonized.
For the foreseeable future only the rich will be able to make that trip and obviously if they claim the earth to be round, they've been bought or threatened by UN etc. according to flerfs.
I watched the Breuer interview. One thing you left out was when he was describing the shuttle as a balloon. Derp Dave shows a quick looped video showing the shuttle "swaying" implying it is the wind doing it. In fact, the shuttle stack was designed to flex forward almost 6 feet after the SSMEs are ignited and then the SRBs would fire once the shuttle returned to vertical after the "twang." Dave's example is a looped video or gif before the SRBs are lit. You can see the steam from the sound suppression system dampening the exhaust plume from the SSMEs.
@@phillipdavis3316 He clearly thinks something big and heavy can’t move quickly so it has to be light. Imagine him seeing an Iowa-class sailing at full steam.
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Shill some more Dave lol, push that good sales deal!
@@iBMcFly Your post is dumb and you should feel bad.
Question on the FE app, who are all the people who show up in the people finder feature? Is it just for show or do they actually have the app? That's not real users surely?
@@Green_Tea_Coffee That's exactly what he was aiming for. Apart from the feeling bad part.
And you accuse FE of trying yo make money off what they believe in
"a fraction of %1 of people reuse the same password"? The vast majority of people reuse the same password everywhere.
90% of flerfs use the password:
It'sFlat!69420
I hope you got that he was trying desperately to get himself off the hook with that
I don't, but everyone I know does lol. Got my dad using a password manager, but many people are just too bad with tech to use one.
In this day and age when you need an account for pretty much everything I find it crazy that people would use the same password for like 20 different apps/e-mails/websites/services...
Twenty??!! My password manager has 122 entries, and that's after a recent pruning of old outdated sites.
7:20 Im a web developer. You never store passwords. Not even encrypted. What you store is hashed password. You use an algorithm that basically generates a unique key based on the password that you can re-generate to match against in to a re-entered password. That is a base level thing.
Even then I would recommend doing something called "Salt and pepper" the password. You mix the password with a global key and a user specific key so that even A) the password doesn't match a hash of another service but B) so that even if you have two users with the same password their stored hash key are not the same.
Doing less than this means that you are a complete amateur and should not be releasing services to the public.
It's been 16 days and DIRTH's app still stores passwords in the clear. And still serves them in the clear with zero authentication.
@@MCToonso the actual devs do no longer answer his calls?
@@MCToon That is unacceptable. I'd be so paranoid of accidentally giving out passwords, it would make me feel really bad if people had info taken from something I made. I guess you have to have a conscience to think that way.
@@hartmutholzgraefe The dev (singular) apparently still answer's Dave's calls. The developer is in the Punjab. To say he is a junior developer is to give him way more credit than he deserves. The design of the app is a mess. The database is not normalized. While we haven't seen the direct schema, the API returns unfiltered row content, including 2 or 3 different IDs depending on what the endpoint. These IDs are different keys to different tables, but they don't appear to have any foreign key constraints, nor understand the concept of not duplicating data. Different endpoints returning different data return overlapping data from other endpoints. I suspect the developer doesn't even know how to do a join.
@@MCToon Sooooo, I'm not a programmer or a database person, but I'm incredibly tempted to see if joining the app with the name of Bobby Tables would cause interesting things to happen...
(see also xkcd #327)
"NASA was founded by Ron Hubbard, Walt Disney, and Aleister Crowley". Honestly, I’m surprised he didn’t throw in Dr. Doom for good measure.
Dr Doom is an actual scientist and we can't have any of them involved.
You can't prove Dr. Doom WASNT involved. He is also funding flat earth. He likes to hedge his bets.
It was MF Doom
@@deanl5832 That's ironic coming from you lad.
Don’t forget the Nazi founder. It’s a little weird.
Dirth: "You can't see more than 25 miles due to thick atmosphere!"
Also Dirth: "Here you can see mountains 700 miles away!"
Absolute scammer clown.
Context. It might have been too subtle for you. Watch at a slower speed. Repeat. You’ll get it. Everybody can be intelligent; it just generally takes educated people longer.
@@cryptobitconsultants4570being slow isn't the issue. Contradicting your claims is.
I honestly didn't think a human being could be delusional to this degree until i listened to the ramblings of a flat earther, then to top it off they all get conned from scammers to buy products just like that clown Alex Jones.
I wonder what weather conditions and visibility indexes were made for?
Are you seeing the top or the bottom of said mountains though?
You will obviously see the top because it is high above the limit of your line of sight at ground/sea level, you can only see approximately 3 miles away from you at ground level to ground level with just your eyes.
I wish globers would think about what they are actually saying.
"How did they make a globe when no one had seen it?" Probably the same way they dug a tunnel from France to England and vice versa simultaneously yet managed to meet in the middle - maths!
Hahahaha. Perfect. Thank you for this brilliant comment.
“They” used a DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE to “prove” Earth is a Nature defying SpacePear.
Amazing science. Too bad Natural, applied Physics and Chemistry proves Earth is NOT a SpacePear, but in FACT a motionless Plane with various Topographical features.
Welcome to “flat earth”.
@@dickwayne7744 It would be more accurate to say: "They used logical reasoning."
"Applied physics an d chemistry" never proved a flat earth. Not even supporting it in any way.
@@dickwayne7744how does chemistry prove a flat earth :)
@@hartmutholzgraefe
“Chemistry” I am referring to Gasses and the Natural Laws that Govern them.
@@yourguard4
Sure thing bud. Unless of course you deny the Physical Laws that Govern Gasses and Water.
I love how dave Weiss is a proponent for doing your own research, but then shows a meme of walt Disney and dead people founding NASA
He will just claim that NASA was founded way before they say it was.
@@wncjan Nah, it's very simple.
Even if the body dies, the spirit lives on.
Normally they would be ghosts and go hount people. Others establish government agencies.
He understands his target audience: a lot of gullible and intellectually lazy people. He KNOWS they'll just take his word for it. Remember, he's a scammer and doesn't believe these incorrect claims.
"Do your own research" people coming up with a thought they didn't plagiarize from some stupid old book challenge. Level: impossible
Which indicates you've not done research.
I went to Antarctica about 15 years ago. I worked in the Kitchen at McMurdo Station. I was there for a year. Amazing place and I can confirm there is indeed sunlight for 24 hours.
how much money did the *checks notes* Rothschilds pay you to say that?
Are you sure the sun didn't go away for a rest whenever you went inside??? Our sun can be quite sneaky!!!
@@richardvine5915 Is our sun a cat who just threw up and is now hiding? 😂
@@apho-sappho it could be, it seems to confuse flat earthers a lot as they can not explain its movement
you saw the sun for 24 hours not just light? you have proof of this ? the cameras they have down there do not show a 24 hour sun- they speed all their videos up and cut out time segments!
We can disregard him forever because he's not coming to Antarctica. We know he's a grifter.
a flat earth app needing a globe formula to work is crazy. as they say, no flat earth debunker quite like a flat earther
No only that but GPS and the coordinate system that ALL navigation uses will ONLY work on a globe.
@jamesphelan2520 that didn't even occur to me 😭😭😭😭 bro what are these people DOING
its not crazy at all, since the world is round it NEEDS to use globe metrics to work. same reason they cant make a map without using the globe.
@@maximumbees Uh.. lies and stuff cuz da authority is bad. Something like that.
Some anti-authority fall into to insane conspiracies lol.
Still wondering why the other planets are spherical, but I got banned last time I asked a flat earth discord lol.
@@DarthZ01 well the "crazy" was me being a little sarcastic but idk if my tone came through lol
Dave isn't a flat earther. He knows what he's doing. He's made a killing from being a 'flat earther'.
Dirth shows that PT Barnum was correct when he said “There is a sucker born every moment “.
Yep, he's one of the grifters. He doesn't believe a word he says.
Hey Guys I have some amazing good news about an abrahamic man named Jose
He's the least "convincing" of the obvious grifters, he's such a low-effort troll.
@@WahrheitMachtFrei. I'm wondering why if Flalt Earth Dave thinks the Space X rocket catch is a hoax and CGI, why didn't they go to the landing site to film and prove it was a hoax?
Users on his app showing up in the south pole is fucking hilarious.
Be interesting to see if people on the west side of Antarctica showed up as close to people on the east side of Antarctica, since on pizzaworld they would have to be 16,000 miles away.
I'm sure a good number of the people downloaded the app for laughs.
@@khandimahn9687 $3 for a laughing show is not too much
@@khandimahn9687 It would be hilarious if all the people stationed in antarctica for research and whatnot just downloaded the app to troll the honest users lmfao
@@Yamyatos That's what I would have done if I worked in Antarctica.
Purchase of Dave's Flat Earth app: $3
Subscription to extra features: $11
Finding out the apps location features are based on a globe: Priceless
Storing Usernames, Passwords and other PII in Cleartext so data thieves can steal your identity:
Well, hope that Mastercard has good fraud protection in place.
I love how he keeps calling the UN a "world controlling organization". Anyone familiar with real geopolitics knows the UN is woefully underpowered. Do they think the UN wants North Korea and Afghanistan doing the shit they're doing?
The way flerfers and conspiracy nuts talk about the UN, it's an omnipotent one-world government. Here is reality the UN is the exact opposite: a profoundly impotent organization that is unable to solve the crises that plague the world.
The UN is the tyrants' trade union. It deserves no power.
If the people who run the UN are as naive as U.S. millennials, then they would probably not even know.
(Obligatory not a flerf disclaimer)
It's UN money collecting night for the International Children's Emergency Fund
obviously, war is great for the economy
-St Armstrong
It's extremely easy to decompile apps. The fact the users/passwords are saved as plain text on a website is actually frightening! No hashes no private IP locked access no nothing 🤦
Yeah, that's pretty insane. Usernames? Fine. Passwords? Never plaintext. Hashed, salted, and maybe peppered.
@@Gandhi_Physique And even worse, an API must *never* return passwords.
The API should check if the hashed password is correct, if so generate a session token and return that token for that particular authorized user.
@@Gandhi_Physique hashed together with the username, salted and encrypted. If you hash+salt the password alone, then if two users have the same password then they'll get the same hash. That's bad.
If you don't salt, then you are vulnerable if the passwords are short.
If you don't encrypt and someone steals your database and your source code they may be able to crack the passwords offline.
So you hash with the username (which is unique), you salt, and you HMAC using the password itself as key.
How can they have used a globe as thier logo in the 1920s, when we didnt go to space until the 1960s?
Hi, this is Atlas from the 2nd century. You might have heard of me.
Lol underrated comment 😅
2:nd century B.C.
Except it wasn't the earth Atlas was holding. It was the heavens.
@@Peter-o9n6p Except it wasn't. It was the globe.
@@freddan6fly Look it up sweetheart; what Atlas is holding in that famous statue is the celestial sphere. It's okay to be wrong about something; but it looks really stupid to refuse to be corrected by someone who knows better, when you clearly don't.
31:50 That's literally not even a 747. That's a gulfstream, a private jet. This guy cannot get anything right, ANYTHING.
Calling that hacking reminds me of when Josh Renaud (journalist for St. Louis Post-Dispatch) was almost charged with hacking for viewing HTML and seeing that a website leaked SSNs right in the HTML. Dude just hit F12.
Wow, that is crazy. I wouldn't even have thought that was possible to screw up so badly.
Even funnier, it's all teacher's SSNs and stored in a comment. It's like if a court document redact things by coloring the background black.
And the reason those SSNs were there is so user can autocomplete it, which is extra hillarious.
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 This just reminds me of when some classified documents were released in a redacted manner, but the redactions were added by placing black rectangles over the sensitive information. However when the documents were loaded by a computer, the black rectangles were loaded last, so if your computer was slow enough, you could cancel the load after the text but before the rectangles appeared, thus viewing the documents in their entirety. Fun stuff.
FE Dave said "If your stupid enough to use the same password." Did he forget that 600k people were stupid enough to buy his app? 100% of flerfs are stupid enough to use the same password for everything.
Yep - to be a flerf, being stupid is a prerequisite …
Majority of normal people are reusing passwords. We don’t want to remember a new password for every single website.
That’s why we are moving away from password to 2FA.
You're stupid.
That's why we use password managers that generate random secure passwords and remembers them for us. On top of 2fa
@blain20_ Looks like you are projecting.
His app uses a globe map projection in order to work... hilarious 😂
I think it’s all the more hilarious that the app has a “friend finder” feature, so that the echochamber can grow along with Dave’s bank account.
The word grifter comes to mind.
It's not even a projection .. the friend finder part uses actual globe based maths.
No it doesnt... its just a bad statement of mckeegan... he is using a preset system anyone of us has to use while doing something like that wr have to rely and given infos...
The code of real GPS cant be lopked at for a very good reason...
Something like what? @@Yepbutno-yl5bx
I love how the lack of knowledge towards photography and cameras is what continues to disprove and hinder their hypothesis. Every time
As one of the people currently researching DIRT's app... yeah... I can tell you it's still definitely not secure.
I'm a Platform Engineering Consultant, there's no excuse to have all this data unencrypted it's not a hard thing to do.
And while he's right about "you should not use the same password for different services" we know that the reality is different.
It is already bad enough when encrypted passwords get leaked, but this service obviously didn't bother to use best practice -- a one-way hash -- or at least two way encryption, but obviously stored them in clear text.
Makes me wonder whether that backdoor API call was actually added by the actual developers to scam both DITRHs users *and* himself ...
"...then how does he have a flat earth map if apparently nobody's been high enough to see the whole flat earth?" WHAT A TAKEDOWN! Bravo!
Every other flat earther has a brilliant counter: "we don't have a map"
@@muskyoxes That appears to be the current FE strategy: "we don't have a map, we don't have a model, we don't know what the sun is, we don't know the distance to anything... so we can't be wrong ever"
@@juanausensi499I love telling those flerfs 'if you don't have any alternative measurements, then you don't know what it can *not* be. So thank you for admitting the globe is reality!"
@@juanausensi499 DITRH says that too while at the same time having his app behind him showing one.
I loved when FE Dave claimed that when the rockets land on the drone ships they cut away then cut to it sitting on the ship, while uncut video in the background shows a rocket landing on a drone ship.
Or the fact that rockets have tipped over in choppy seas so Dave couldn't even get that correct.
@@JMon2021 he’s also try to imply that landed rocket was always there and the flying one was fake. Of course the video he plays behind him shows he’s lying, he doesn’t actually care about the intelligence of his audience.
one thing ya left out with the underwater iss part. The refraction from the helmets makes the astronauts heads look tiny underwater but we don't see that when they are in space.
i read it as "underwater piss" and had to do a double take lmao
@@JackFoxtrotEDM lol
Dave does point that in his stand alone video about the "underwater ISS". Maybe he skipped it for brevity - it is an hour long video. Not that we would mind extra 10-15 minutes 😄
It's dither
👀🌎✌️
The argument about the Universal Pictures logo is also goofy because they didn't start using a globe in 1927, but rather 1923, and what he shows is actually an updated logo.
Tell me you didn't research it without telling me you didn't research it...
The original one is the one with a biplane flying around it, right? Wonder how FEDave works that into his grand conspiracy theory.
The logos used by _Sono Art - World Wide Pictures_ (1927 - 1933) would blow his mind.
Dirth claiming his site was hacked is like accusing someone of going to the trouble of picking the lock on the door to the house, yet all they did was mention ”you do realise you forgot to fit a door to the door frames? Anyone can just walk in!”
Also, the house isn't there. It's just a pile of cash in a field.
@@MCToon
Pretty sad that some 60 year old Man who is bitter they had to age out of high school is so jealous of a complete stranger.
@@dickwayne7744 Your ineffectual whining gets more incoherent with each pointless attempt at getting some attention.
@ oh there’s a house there alright . It’s a ”Wendy house” as in one of those kids play houses. Cheap fabric over plastic frame.
In other words it’s trying to present itself as the real thing. A solid and elaborate building that in reality is a scam of a facade
@@leftpastsaturn67
Troll Bots really don’t like when they get trolled with truth.
Your buddy McTool hates being trolled with truth. He blocks people that troll with truth.
I detest DITRH. I'm sick of his grifting, his bs and his lies. I am very much going to enjoy his downfall.
He is like Trump, he can say anything, his base don't mind and follow him.
@@pierreboissonneault I suppsoe there's some truth to that. But Trump is rich and powerful; he's insulated from consequences. Dave is just some small time buIIsh1t artist. If the EU goes after him, they'll crush him.
DITRH should soon be known as DITJC, or Deep In The Jail Cell
That annoying smile. That drug "this thing I don't understand? It's laughable" attitude.
The constant gishgalloping
The constant need to be the only one talking, pushing everyone aside and talking over them because he craves attention.
@@DragonNexus yes
Wait can we find flat earth Dave’s location?
Someone did and posted it on Twitter along with his email & password (although redacted) - Dave seemed to acknowledge there was a leak after that 🤣
@@DaveMcKeegan After he said "that's not my password, it's my old password" and then he changed it. And his new password was then again sent to him, after he changed it. Pretty funny.
@@maxine_qI hope that keeps on going until he finally fixes the app security. That's hilarious! 😂
Ladies and gentlemen, we got em 😏
@@corey2232 Until he takes down the app once and for all.
FEDave went with the lowest bidder, and it shows.
he really called MCToon an "anti-flat earth troll" despite him rarely raising his voice above talking level and showing nothing but proof in every episode why the earth isn't flat.
Haven’t you heard? Everyone who isn’t a flat Earther is actually a paid NASA shill and /or freemason etc
You clearly have not seen McTools Act.
“Proof” doesn’t exist in his deranged Mind.
Never seen him Act out like an emotionally unstable 5 year old going all red faced and rage quit?
It is easy to find. Just watch his Act when challenged by people far more intelligent and articulate than he could ever be.
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If you don't follow him blindly and prove him wrong you are a troll.
I will say it again"
He is making money on flat earth!
This is the only reason he talks about it.
He didnt accept that Final expedition to prove 24h day, because it would end his "job".
Thank you.
Dirth is insufferable.
Id pay $3 for a private meeting with the Zodiac killer before i paid $3 for a DIRTH app
@@ajklozz it really sounds like the name for a small penis support app
I recently saw a clip from the OG Transformers cartoon where Megatron catches Starscream in a scheme, and tells him “You are either lying, or you’re stupid!”
Which I feel is the perfect response to most flat earth topics.
It works in so many cases.
Sometimes, there's the secret third thing, active ignorance. You get the feeling something is up, so you deliberately avoid learning about it.
@@DragonNexus That’s covered under lying. That’s a way to lie while not having to admit you are.
@@Isolder74 But it's also keeping oneself stupid. Kind of in the middle.
@@nightmareTomek It i and it isn't. Most of them know the answers already but just pretend not to know. DITRH is one of the best examples, he says things knowinbg full well that they have been refuted, such as Mars = Devon Island, that he knows his marks are nt going to bother checking him on.
In may cases they are just pretend the correct information doesn't exist. Watch Witsit give his citations, look you x and you will find y while not giving enough information to easily fact check him.
I find it amazing how they think that a globe conspiracy would be so incompetent to give up their game in their logos, but competent enough to fool everyone.
The stars don't move? Perhaps he should start buying old editions of Nortons' Star Atlas and compare the charts over time. Then he will know they DO move in relationship to each other.
do you what word “fixed” means?
@@dickwayne7744 so someone in the past, based on the information they had available to then at the time, chose a bad name. So what?
We have lots of examples of that, like "virus" actually meaning poison, the "Big bang" actually having produced no sound, etc.
So what was your point again?
_"The stars don't move?"_ indeed.
I guest "they" update the nautical almanac (used for celestial navigation) with new star positions for nothing every year/few years.
@@hartmutholzgraefe
Wow. Are you suggesting those people of the past didn’t observe, record and track the movements of the Luminaries?
What about the 100’s if not 1000’s of structures built all over Earth that line up with the different Luminaries?
Some only line up with them on very specific days. Not to mention the fact they still line up with them today.
In short. My point is. Your Religious Idols Dave McKeegan and McTool are liars and grifters and Bigots.
you are confusing precession of the co-ordinate system with proper motion.
Jim Brewer is so easily bamboozled. It is embarrassing Jim. Pathetic actually.
The worst kind of interviewer. Just like Joe Rogan, just uncritically nodding and going "Wow..." every now and then.
In a town where the sun sets and rises anew,
Lived a scammer named DIRTH telling stories untrue.
With a grin and a scheme, he would spew his tall tales,
Claiming the round earth was just glober fails.
He'd stand on a street corner, face full of cheer,
"It's flat as a pancake! Take a gander, my dear!
No curves in the ocean, no roundness to find,
Come join me in truth! Leave the globe earth behind!"
But the folks rolled their eyes and just walked right on by,
While DIRTH shook in frustration 'neath the wide open sky.
For though he believed no one's smarter than DIRTH,
He'd never convince them of flat pizza earth.
@@criskity as you do spread your hatred of people that believe in something you all fear
Brilliant! 👌
... just like the sponsor of this video. 😁
I'm gona try turn this to Irish trad. 😂
@criskity :
CLASS! 👏😆
@TJ-o7f : Like the auld saying goes, "The only thing flatards fear is sphere itself."
It's always been so telling to me that since I was a teenager with an Apple Macintosh, I have been able to run a program that shows me what the sky will look like at my location for any day and date for centuries in either direction. Yet no flat Earth model can simulate their motions and match anything I see outside.
My favourite part about Dave's app is that the sunrise/sunset icon shows the sun hidden bottom first behind a curved horizon. Whoops.
Jim Breuer is a comedian in the same way that Flat Earth Dave is an honest man.
Been a couple decades since I last saw that guy's name come up in anything. (He was in some stoner movie with Dave Chappelle in the early 2000s, right? Am I thinking of the right guy?)
@@MuljoStpho"Half Baked".
He also claims that Chappelle was killed and replaced with a clone.
"Nobody leaves flat earth," because as soon as someone tries all of you start saying that they're grifters or that they were never really a flat-earther in the first place. You immediately "other" the people that do step away.
The immediate in-fighting that the Final Experiment thing caused was glorious - The globe-side/skeptics/debunkers were all excited to see which would get picked to go and some wanted to join and go together, the flat earthers started cannibalizing anyone who even thinks about going. For free. To do an experiment that would forever "prove" their side.
@@doctorbones941 Plato's cave.
Pretty sure most people who were *dedicated* to flat earth left to more engaging conspiracies, like QAnon. It's like trutherism, many people now have "911 was an inside job" as part of their general bullshit mindscape, but only a handful are still protesting and demanding investigations.
@@mattstanford9673 I love his other sales pitch. Don’t watch this playlist unless you are ready to lose all your family and friends. He even says watching said playlist is guaranteed to make you a flerf.
I'm another one. After 5 years of flat earth research, I was there with them. Until your videos. It's unfortunate there are so many debunkers that do a horrible job of that. But not this channel. Globe proof galore.
The fact he even stores the passwords in clear text (or in a decodable format) is a big NO NO in programming. Passwords should be stored hashed (not encrypted). And there is no reason to even expose that through his api.
The oldest preserved globe is Martin Behaim's "Erdapfel" (earth apple) exhibited in Nuremberg, Germany. It is from from 1492, and so America is missing on this globe.
So. “They” figured out the Earth was a “globe” down to almost its exact claimed Radius in Ancient Greek times, but knew nothing about the Americas existence?
Makes perfect sense 🙄
@@dickwayne7744 "Makes perfect sense"
An ironic statement given that yours was the polar opposite of making sense.
And that's just the oldest preserved globe - Crates of Mallus had devised one clear back in 150BC.
@dickwayne7744 what doesn't make sense? They knew the earth is a sphere shape because it was measured. They didn't know about areas they haven't been to, yet.
@
How did “they” measure it then?
A one-hour video about debunking Flat Earth? LET'S GOOOO!!!!!
Imagine being excited to debunk imbeciles 😜
@Netto9620 nothing was debunked. Nice lie...i mean try tho 🤣🤣🤣🙉🙊🙈🤣🤣🤣. Typical curvians and their delusion of the satanic spinning space pear fairy tale indoctrination.
@@holdtheline-G you sound like you're in the wrong place
Watching Jim Breuer try to put two thoughts together is top tier comedy.
Funniest thing he's done in years
I love his defence that it only leaked what they were already sharing with other users of the app. Completely side stepping the fact that the data is available to the entire world. Dick Is Trying Really Hard to pretend it’s no big deal.
"im a scammer" -flat earth dave
Terrible.
“Im a scammer”.
McTool took Dave out of context, cherry picked those specific words and uses them in a pathetic attempt to discredit him.
This makes your Hero McTool a LIAR and straight up pos.
This makes you a LIAR for quoting Dave as saying this.
This makes FAILED utoob Photographer turned “flat earth fighter” GRIFTER @DaveMcKeegan a LIAR and straight up pos.
@@dickwayne7744 There's a huge amount of irony and projection in that amusing tantrum.
Grow up lad.
I swear, anyone who rejects the free trip to Antarctica doesn't believe flat-earth and just makes content for money.
@@leftpastsaturn67
How so?
Would it actually hurt you to provide any evidence that refutes what I say or answer the simple questions?
I know copy and pasting from the Troll Bot script is super scientific and all…but…
Is anyone surprised the flerf app is not secure?
Well yes, but actually no.
I'm surprised he hasn't been arrested for his hat
AI replacing software devs, 2024, colorized
What is secure? Do you know how many times your data has been breached? Data held on the most secure servers isnt safe. You do realize your name, address, phone number are public record? If someone is intent on doing you harm, they don't need a janky app to do it. I mean you found this channel, right?
@holdtheline-gm8en i think you didn't grasp the extent to which it isn't secure. It does not have problems with security because it has no security measures, not standard ones, at all, by design. There are design mistakes that freshman student with no prior experience would make. Products of this quality should never handle sensitive data.
Sudden thought: Hans Holbein's famous painting 'The Ambassadors' has a globe in it. It was painted in 1533. It also has a celestial globe in it, showing the positions of the stars.
If the light atop the moon is "from the firmament," doesn’t that disprove all the flat earthers who say "we don't even know what the moon is made of, it's probably a projection!"
Didn't know projected images could reflect other light sources.
@deanl5832 You must be a new flat earth convert, dummy.
MANY flerfs say it's a projection, but go ahead & pretend they don't. Flerfs are great at ignoring what they don't want to hear.
@@deanl5832Wow, a flat Earther offended at the truth that is unaware of how batshit his echochamber “friends” are?
🤣🤡💩
@@deanl5832 You managed to type two long words there lad, I'd go have a lie down to get over the shock.
Flat Earthers arguments change every time. Only the conclusion is fixed.
@@deanl5832 Oh bless, that was an amusing tantrum.
Add some more emojis and really ram home the fact that you have the emotional maturity of a doormat.
Its never fun to address Dirth. Even if you succeeded in convincing him, he would just lie.
When you were talking about the speed and aerodynamics of the shuttle i was thinking "in kerbal space program you always wait until you're past most of the atmosphere before reaching your top speed, the speed before then is to get past the atmosphere"
Nice to know he could just play a video game to learn more
But... then he could legitimately claim that it's all CGI...
The dog Dave is holding has done shits smarter than Flat Earth Dave.
So the Sun sets because the camera (our eyes) is below the Horizon.... wait, that would put me below ground level. And wait a little more, from the top of a 70 story building, the Sun still sets. How is the top of that 70 story building below ground level?
Flat Earthers remind me of when I was 8 years old and I thought by tying a balloon to a letter to Santa Claus and letting it float, it would reach the North Pole
The radio signal part is hilarious, because it shows they can't even bother with enough research to check TWO videos, to try and debunk them with the correct info...two things...its no wonder they don't understand anything else if they aren't even willing to check 2 videos and make sure they talk about the correct one.
The other funny unmentioned aspect of the coin on the table experiment is that the sun doesn't slide along the fucking ground.
Flat Earth explanations all seem to work when you look at just one variable.
The mechanics of a system of Earth, moon, sun, planets, stars, gravity, optics, and so much more, requires hundreds of variables.
Looking at just one variable isolated from all those mechanics makes it easy to describe that variable in many different ways: the earth might be a globe, flat, or a decahedron, it might be spinning or not, it might be moving or not, etc.
Looking at one variable at a time makes almost anything possible.
Where Flat Earth fails is when you try to put all their single-variable explanations into a model where ALL of them work together, it's just impossible.
They can't even get SOME of them together and are not even close to getting ALL of them together.
That's why guys like Flat Earth Dave can talk about the perspective elevation of the sun seeming to get closer to the horizon at sunset but never ever try to include the unchanging size of the sun at the same time - he can't even get just TWO variables to work together in this failed explanation.
These variables can include "two people viewing the sun at the same time at different places"
I don't think it works even on the lowest level. The circling lampshade sun is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it. The coffee cup caustic is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it. Density and buoyancy is designed to explain one thing, and it doesn't remotely explain it
It's always like that. You end up playing whack a mole with their arguments.
"Debunked that one? It's okay, here's another one"
Doesn't matter that they conflict, the goal is to just wear you out to the point you're sick of arguing, so they "win"
25:39 Start here and explain how the night sky isn't constantly changing drastically over the course of months and years.
@@gmw3083 In between stars is a whole lot of space. No, more space than that. No, more space than that too. A whole lot of space.
Note that it doesn't matter if you believe this explanation. You challenged the mere _existence_ of an explanation, and it turns out to be super basic.
I don't get why flat earthers are claiming the Falcon (and now Starship) landings are fake. They could just say these rockets never went beyond the firmament, and came back. Sometimes I think they get their jollys by convincing people of absolutely stupid things.
It's the general logic of the conspiracist mindset. If the rocket launch and recovery were real, then they couldn't pour scorn on anyone who thinks that they're real.
@@Rev03FFL Well everything about going to space has to be fake even things that don’t have to be.
Are there really that many simple spelling errors in his code? ALTIDUTE and latiude!!! That is simply incredible.
Did FE Dave actually write all the code himself?
The omission of basic security features is the sort of thing you see from someone who's developing an app in their spare time.
I've been a software developer for over 30 years. Misspellings in code are the norm rather than the exception. For some reason, programmers are generally awful at spelling and grammar. It drives me nuts.
@@robadams1645that's true from a junior web dev.
@@robadams1645 I mean the compiler isn't going to correct me if I keep using the same spelling of "latiude".
@@howzittoyah true, but you should be thinking about the humans who also have to read your code in the future. If we didn't have to care about maintainability, we could all just code in binary: the computer doesn't care.
I am genuinely disappointed in folks like Jim Bruer, Rosanne Barr, Joe Rogan and any other big names buying into Flat Earth Dave’s snake oil.
They buy in to all other stupid conspiracies as well. Why is it a surprise for you?:)
Since when has Joe Rogan bought into Flat Earth? He's made fun of it before.
@ He interviewed at least one of them (that I’m aware of), and supported their claims.
Which is not a surprise, because his podcast is full of scientific nonsense anyway.
@@juzoli Joe Rogan doesn't believe or promote FE. This was covered in his resent podcast with Brian Cox (a scientist, not anti science). So, like a Flerf, you are spreading misinformation. You should try to avoid that in the future.
@@juzoli Give a name, at least. I don't think that ever happened. I can tell you he made fun of them, like, for example, in his Neil deGrasse Tyson interview.
Weiss is just a grifter, he is so easy to debunk, he really is a moron.
But is he really a moron if he's making all this money by lying to people ?
@@h14hc124 Yeah he's still a moron, you can be a sly prick but still a moron.
@@h14hc124 A moron can fleece another moron and still be a moron.
@@h14hc124 true
Even if Parsons and Hubbard both for a while were followers of Crowley, they weren't particularly best friends which had something to do with Hubbard stealing Parsons's girlfriend Sara and both of them stealing Parsons's savings.
Was that before or after they formed NASA? :)
Parsons also summoned a storm (which just happened to occur at the time) to wreck Hubbard's stolen yacht- and then got convinced by Hubbard that it was all a mistake 😭
I feel bad for Parsons, he was gullible and assholes like Hubbard took advantage of him.
@@robadams1645Far before. Parsons died in 1952 (he had been let go by the Government due to his... occultness), and Hubbard was off with Scientology by 1954.
Jack Parson did assist founding JP Laboratories, but NASA was created in 1958.
@@idontwantmyrealnameonhere5955 I was being a smartass. I meant those guys forming NASA like the flerf was claiming.
@@robadams1645 Oh, sorry about that 😭
He's not a flat earthers, he's a grifter. Fooling his stupid, gullible followers
Like most self-proclaimed gurus.
If a telescope can magnify the sun at sunset, there should be no problem seeing the sun all night long just by magnifying it with a powerful telescope. We actually have telescopes that focus exclusively at the sun (only during day mind you). So if the sun is not really setting but just getting farther away then why can't these solar observatories work around the clock, day and night? Same goes for ships at sea.
Telescopes use evil satanic optics, unlike god blessed reality detecting nikon cameras
@vaiyt it would be funny, but this is pretty much similar to smth a flat earther said to me. First told me that those are NASA CGI, photos that i myself took and then that it is a chip in my telescope and then in my camera. Funnily enough it was a Nikon D5200 for the normal astrophotos. But it does show their way of thinking. It looks fake to them and they never would do it themselves so it's definitely 'NASA CGI'. Impressive how the H-Alpha and whitelight photos of the sun are matching NASAs in real time.
@@meloneyit's even more amusing when it's a homemade telescope. Yes. Several people have made their own telescopes and taken photos through it and flerfs claimed nasa microchips. In purely optical, manual telescopes...
......and with a big enough telescope you should be able to see Europe from the USA!
@@5peciesunkn0wn I've made my own telescopes, it's not even that hard if you source the mirror so don't have to grind it yourself. These guys could easily do the same, but of course they know that they're just spewing mumbo jumbo so aren't going to do anything that might actually prove they're wrong. Plenty of other Flerfers have fallen into that trap.
1hr long... STRAP IN BHOYS
I'll get comfy thanks.
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Good thing my dishwasher program is also an hour, perfect entertainment.
@@AtelierGod my wife hates being called that
Did you say strap in or strap on?
a small correction on the shuttle. the main engines stop firing when the main tank is dropped. at that point the shuttle is still at a suborbital path. the OMS system fires up to finish the last accelleration into a a stable orbit (and is also used for other changes to the orbit), which is the two smaller rocket engines you can see in the rear on the shuttle.
He had some good ones in this too but my favourite Flat Earth Dave quotes ever come from his debate against Dave Farina. Long live:
- spectroscopy needs a container
- the moon is made of gas
- daylight doesn't come from the sun
- the fact he thinks the sun is a campfire in space
@@JustJezBeingJez He thinks you can’t feel the warmth of the sun during winter.
He’s clearly never been outside on a winter morning.
Find it hilarious that he talks about "provable and repeatable experiments" and ignore that a round Earth has been proven with repeatable experiments for thousands of years
He means small scale lab type stuff.
Please ignore that all the principles of physics used to verify the earth is round HAVE been proven in labs.
I’m so happy to live on a round globe surrounded by space, stars and planets. What a boring place it would be with no space, a goldfish bowl over us and no space travel.
Whenever flerfs start talking about the inverse square law I always ask them what I can input into an inverse square equation that would output zero.
I have yet to get an answer...
The fact that his app uses globe maths is the smoking gun. Hes a fraud, liar, fake, shill, etc you pick lol. Has he been confronted about that yet? Lol i want to see it
“It’s not pointy at the top.” -Flat Earth Dave. Cinema come to life hahahahaha
But does he look like a pimp from Miami Vice? Or just an aging rent boy?
Can I pet that dog?
Even puppers know it’s an oblate spheroid.
Your ability to keep a straight face while making these videos is seriously impressive. It must be so hard not to laugh. "They're not mountains, they're clouds" is my absolute favourite flat earth debunk so far, I can't wait for someone to try to use that photo to prove to me that the earth is flat. I've personally been at the top of Snowdon and no, you definitely can't see the alps.
Do not forget, Spectroscopy needs a container!!! According to Dirth.
I've seen double rainbows, one inside another. Does that mean several containers...?
How much money has FED made with his app? I bet it's half a mil? He has no financial justification to do the trip that could possibly devastate his entire means of income.
He wants to suck the gullible flerf teat dry
As far as I can tell the claim that L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley had anything to do with NASA stems from their connection with Jack Parsons, but this is silly, as Parsons wasn't a founder of NASA (given he blew himself up 1952, and NASA was founded in 1958, this would have been difficult). Yes, Parsons was involved in the foundation of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but he left that in 1944, and by the time of his death his main work was making pyrotechnics for the movie industry. My suspicion is that what's happened here is something quite common in conspiracist literature, which is that the tale has grown with the telling. It's likely to have begun with "Jack Parsons, founder of the JPL , owned by NASA, was an occultist (true) and had close connections with L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley (also true), and somehow morphed over time into "Jack Parsons, a founder of NASA, was an occultist, etc., and finally into "Jack Parsons, Aleister Crowley, and L. Ron Hubbard were among the founders of NASA," which is simply not true at all. Neither Hubbard nor Crowley ever had anything to do with the JPL, and Parsons was only one of several men (it was the 1930s and 1940s, of course they were all men) involved in forming the JPL. Parson was kicked out in 1944 due to his involvement in the occult, illicit drugs, and orgies - all seen as potential security issues in someone working on classified government projects. The JPL only teamed up with Von Braun in 1954, a decade after Parsons' departure and about two years after his death.
Thus "Jack Parsons, one of the founders of the JPL was an occultist and associated with L. Ron Hubbard (who was involved in the same occult circles at the time) and Aleister Crowley" is just a piece of trivia, nothing more.
33:40 The physics involved for rockets that are still in high atmospheric pressures is insane. When they approach max q, rockets throttle back until the air gets thinner because of the stress that's encountered.
Ooh! If you wanna see a rocket that _doesn't_ throttle back for max q look up the Sprint missile!
Accelerates at 100 g and had an ablative heat shield _on the front_ to handle punching up through the atmosphere at Mach 10
Footage of them looks like it's been sped up but you can see the tip glowing red hot even as it leaves its silo
Massively impressive bit of kit designed to intercept an ICBM incoming from near-orbit at Mach 24, in the atmosphere, seconds before impact
Abandoned after less than a year of operation because 1. It was extremely expensive. and 2. They realized that building a ton of them would prompt the Soviets to build more warheads, which would _increase_ the chance of an accidental launch
Possibly one of the missiles that the game Missile Command is based on
(If you don't know the story behind the development of Missile Command, it's well worth looking up too.)
-Makes bold claims
-Never backs them up with receipts.
Sure signs of a scammer. Reminds me of people who've been in the news a lot lately...
"I only use my channel to scam my followers."
~Flat Earth Dirth
So… nobody wants to go to Antarctica because **checks notes** ….they’re too lazy or afraid? Well, if that doesn’t fly in the face of tens of thousands of years of the innate human condition to explore, and seek discovery…. 🤦🏻♂️
Going there would be financially inconvenient when their Flat Earth followers start asking questions they can't answer. 😅
Who stores passwords in plain text? lol
You're supposed to salt and hash them.
Salt and pepper.
Makes me wonder if FE Dave was writing the code himself, or if he just outsourced the development on FIVERR to the cheapest person he could find.
Dumb people do that.
Nobody else.
I love Dave's argument about "24 hour sun in Antarctica". If it sets, I'm right, if it doesn't set, you are wrong. Great. No way to lose.
Didn't they have little desk sized globes on most ships in the 1700s? That was way before space pictures. It's not like you NEED a picture of something to know what it looks like. There are people who have been blind their whole life and they can draw things that are recognizable
"if the sun does circle around the sky in antarctica, that would just tell us that we don't understand the sky"
I mean he said it not me.
based on the shape of the earth, we can make predictions of the movements of celestial objects. the sun in antarctica proves that the earth is a sphere.
@RidgewayMountainhauser i'm not agreeing with him, his sentence is basically him telling on his own ignorance (if we consider the "we" in his sentence to refer to flat earthers)
But I realise maybe that wasn't super clear with how i worded it.
But yeah. They don't understand the sky. Or the ground for that matter.
My neighbors are legit flat earthers. He asked if I ever wanted to chat since I was “so invested in the space thing”. lol. That referring to my amateur astronomy habit, and rocket launch and space enthusiasm in general. lol. I tend to not make my points (even ones I know well and understand) to certain personality types- and this neighbor is one of them. They just sort of get louder and meaner and more demeaning. I’m more of a catch more bees with honey type. Explain to me rationally why you believe what you do and I’ll do the same. While I know we will never agree, I have become more interested in not letting my neighbor flat earthers act like some enlightened intellectuals. He wears shirts like “Your ignorance is their superpower”
The thing is they are also my actual neighbors and you gotta try to keep that friendly for a peaceful life- so I just agree to disagree. When the little 7 year old came over and saw our model rockets etc she said my dad said earth is flat. I thought to myself- ok this is tricky …. Not my kid to parent, not my business… so all I said was that I respectfully disagreed and that grown ups don’t know everything yet so maybe she should look into it and read about it and decide for herself one day…. I mean she’s 7 so she’s likely just learning the planets in school if that. I just think it puts her in a bad spot as she gets older and eventually old enough to know it’s wrong. We shall see. In the meantime I’ll continue with my little “space hobbies” and we’ll see how it all turns out. I mean I’ve been wrong before too. 🤷♀️.
Let them watch the globular moon and planets with your telescope, nothing wrong with that and it's fun 😊 Especially Jupiter and it's moons are good for that.
@ IKR! I’ve offered more than once! Even set them out front a couple of times and shared with neighbor kids and a couple other neighbors. He will not even entertain the idea! It’s crazy. That’s what makes me more intrigued actually- because it’s such an anti science and math way to handle what he believes in….. but he disguises it as he just can’t handle entertaining the silly idea of the neighbor girl. 🤷♀️ I’ll try again soon though because winter skies are my favorite stargazing skies.
There has always been, and always will be, village idiots.
Must be weird to live next to one, though.
@leftfinned Saturn and Jupiter are always the favorite ones to watch through my 8 inch dobson. And the shadows on moon craters 😊
@@Amradar123 now see you are my people 😊
The fact over 200k downloaded flat earth dave's app is insane.
The astronauts don't exhale bubbles, that's the support divers in the pool. The spacesuit is a self contained system that has a rebreather build into it, so it is not open circuit. Not that this makes any difference in reality... Dave is still a grifter...
I know MC Toon doesn't really go into his religion all that much, but I've seen him use the "devout Christian" defense for Von Braun a couple times now, and it just doesn't really hold water. There are a lot of devout Christians who do terrible things and some who are flerfs.
It just doesn't really warrant discussion.
He's just countering the impression that flerfs like to give, which is that Von Braun was a Nazi at NASA. And, since so many flerfs claim to be Christians themselves, it highlights their hypocrisy in not mentioning this.
That made me really uncomfortable honestly. Von Braun being a part of NASA WAS messed up, and we can admit that without it affecting the overall argument.
@jaybirdsgames yep. That's part of what makes our arguments more valid, the fact that we aren't using character purity tests to decide valid math and science.
Yeah, I mean even though it says nothing about the validity of his science or his credentials in the field of rocketry, it still seems like a weak defense. Just reading through his Wikipedia page, I have no idea if the allegations against him are true. But it appears that he was not held accountable in part because he claimed to have only been going through the motions of compliance to avoid scrutiny.
@Karras353 that was a common excuse, which except in extreme cases is pretty hard to verify one way or the other. In the end, we can only speculate.
The oldest globe is from 1492, and the oldest mention of a globe is from 150 BCE. Flat earth Dave is a grifter. He 100% knows the earth isn’t flat. He lies because it makes him some money. He’s pathetic.
It's only the oldest extant globe meant for actual cartographic use. There surviving Roman scuptures that depict globes for artistic purposes, held up by Atlas, for example.
@@EBDavis111
Atlas holds up the Sky or the Heavens. The Sphere represents the Celestial Sphere. The Sky. The Heavens.
Now, wait a second... when I go on a drug or alcohol-fuel rant and start making up a ton of lies like Flat Earth Dave does, people just look at me strange and start whispering about calling the police. So how is he getting away with it???
With all the civilian accessible space flight coming in the future these grifters know the gravy train is running out of fuel.
They need to scam as much money out of the masses as possible in the next few years before they are out of a job.
That's silly. These "people" are so averse to reality, they'll just claim everyone who goes to space is part of the conspiracy, or... I don't know, the people who return from there are doppelgangers replacing the real person, and the real one was killed. These people will form a flat Mars society, claiming that Earth doesn't exist, once Mars is colonized.
We will see…
We're a very long way off before anyone but the rich and famous can afford to go to space.
For the foreseeable future only the rich will be able to make that trip and obviously if they claim the earth to be round, they've been bought or threatened by UN etc. according to flerfs.
D or P
Thumbs up if you know what I mean.
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Dingo or Piranha?
@@thomasfalkenberg8549 Good try.
@@MCToon Dumbasaboxofrocks or Pretendingtobedumb?
Dog or...
To this day how flat earthers still exist, completely escapes me.
Being a Talibangelical 'Murican covers a multitude of sins...
I watched the Breuer interview. One thing you left out was when he was describing the shuttle as a balloon. Derp Dave shows a quick looped video showing the shuttle "swaying" implying it is the wind doing it. In fact, the shuttle stack was designed to flex forward almost 6 feet after the SSMEs are ignited and then the SRBs would fire once the shuttle returned to vertical after the "twang." Dave's example is a looped video or gif before the SRBs are lit. You can see the steam from the sound suppression system dampening the exhaust plume from the SSMEs.
@@phillipdavis3316 He clearly thinks something big and heavy can’t move quickly so it has to be light. Imagine him seeing an Iowa-class sailing at full steam.