Yes, Actually, Mortal Kombat 11 DID Ruin Sindel
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Fans: "SINDEL IS LITERALLY CRYING TEARS OF HAPPINESS FOR BEING WITH HER DAUGHTER."
Writers: "Nah that's just the rain".
😂😂I actually love this comment
😂😂😂
Yea ur right can we get the dude who ruined mortal kombat storys for like three games up outta Bc this shit is just sad I been with mortal kombat sense I was a 9 and I really don’t wanna see mortal be treated like this and
I’m 16 now
@@flicker9222 i agree
the rain falls when it may.
I’m not even big into MK but I’m annoyed that they turned a sympathetic, caring mother into a gold digging thot.
Feminism does that to what was once great female characters.
Same
@@kaigen999
So feminism took a look at a complicated female character who was a victim of mind control and turned her into a woman who was evil out of her own actions rather than mind control....but said evil is because she's a gold digging thot, the most cliche and borderline sexist motivation for a villainess....shit's crazy, man...
@@nocktukdaze8256 A lot of feminists are into dominatrix stuff.
@@nocktukdaze8256 feminism has that shit ass backward and thinks this new shit is empowerment and the old better way is sexist and problematic. They are retarded and don't know jack shit.
They literally could have said ''she is brainwashed for so long time, she cant even remember her original persona, thus she makes up stories about her killing jared just to appease her evil side''. Just this line in the game could have fixed her entire lore
It wouldn't. But it would be a start to the fuck ton of plotholes NRS made doing this retcon
Giving her a dark Phoenix style alter ego would let the writers use evil or good sindel whenever they wanted
I also have a theory that Sindel was brainwashed to kill Jerrod.
Well, even then, she'd have to question why she sacrificed herself to protect Earthrealm.
@@WillieManga it was her good side lmao. Idk i cant fix her entire lore
What I hate most is when people say this is fine just because she looked evil before, just because someone looks like a villain, doesn’t mean that character is
They're probably the same kind of person who refers to every bald person as a "skinhead"
Cyberdemon Mike * it’s fine
Cyberdemon Mike oh shutup
Personally I didnt really think sindel looked evil in the midway era
@@trustypatches4042 ;(
So they turned a character who was a literal subversion of the phrase "Don't judge a book by it's cover", a caring mother and wife, benevolent ruler, and loyal ally to the forces of light into a gold-digging woman who killed her husband because Shao Khan offered more to her.
Thanks, I hate it.
Nrs, the fakest swj's ever
i think she proves the phrase, because she is not as she seems. Subverting it would be the new version, where she is as evil as her appearance would suggest.
@@jeangentry6656 so then why arent they making subzero, scorpion, kotal and kitana evil?they look evil
@@motumbu2236 if you look into the history of the characters you mentioned, you will see they were evil at one point.
SubZero and Scorpion don't look "evil" they look scary. Kitana has always been beautiful, which hides her skills as a warrior and assassin.
@@jeangentry6656 scary looking = evil looking =they both evil by nrs logic
To all the people that say “Her personality matches her look.”
*”Appearances can be deceiving.”*
That argument is so stupid good lord...
"Appearances can be deceiving" What about D'Vorah?
@@Dee15gon can be, not are. I'm not into qoutes, but there's a difference of can be vs are. Important in dogs can be cute and dogs are cute.
@@walterruiz-almendarez3688 You lost me....
@@Dee15gon "can be" is implying possibility. "Are" is implying definition or certainty. If you still can't get it. Then I can't help you. Sorry.
Without John Tobais, the lore of MK has slowly crumbled into shit.
Without him, the power of canon diminishes greatly.
Much how the departure of Lucas greatly weakened Disney's canon of Star Wars
@@brauwow I'm sure most of them just left Midway after the whole bankruptcy thing, while the remaining ones founded NRS. It's a shame too, because some of those employees put some great effort into MK. For example, Max Crawford was a brilliant voice for Shujinko and I doubt anyone would even get close if they ever brought back that character. He didn't voice anyone else in the newer games, so my guess is he departed entirely. Shame.
@@brauwow He left in the middle of MK:Special Forces development. Midway did managed to crank out 2 games with really good stories with Deadly Alliance and Deception, Armageddon was weird in that the gimmick of including all characters feels like it damaged the end product more than help it.
Where he went?
I think John Tobias and John Vogel (writer for the 3D era games) were the whole reason the lore was good, I miss them so much
People really to stop giving these half baked arguments defending the Sindel change.
"Her old story was generic and boring" And now she's a generic evil dominatrix that killed her husband for power throwing herself at Shao Kahn like a high school Stacy for a Chad. Yeah nothing generic about that.
Even if you could argue that her original story WAS generic, how the f@#% is MK11's version of her not worse? I just don't get what defenders are thinking.
Sindel: *has one of the best redemption arcs in the series*
NRS: “it’s retcon time”
Rudol Von Stroheim I’m so lost for words right now. How did this happen? 😔💔
R.i.p
NertherRealms Wins!
RETCONTALITY
Vro I actually almost cried at that last image of Sindel hugging Kitana. Because we're probably NEVER getting that ever again 😭
Nope. Not true
NW: We made Sindel evil because we needed a female villain.
Tanya: Am I a joke to you?
Yes, she is.
Tough being a Tanya fan these days.
Seriously they switched the roles. They made Tanya the one who wants to fight for Edenia and Sindel the traitor...tf whyyyy 😫
@@Gameshunter3012 that's fair. She had so much potential.
King Bash Mileena: hold my sais
Liu Kang is about the only character that finally got the respect he deserved, as MK's true champion/hero.
To keep it short and simple
Director: Yeah I think he's died long enough. Lets fix that shall we
Yup. Noob Saibot and Frost's red blood look dumb, Geras and Kronika's blood was supposed to be glowing blue. Cetrion and Kollector could have had different blood colors for all their skins. They literally could have added an update to switch those on and off in the settings, but no.
Shang Tsung's first fatality pulls their skeleton out, but the face on the body still has teeth.
Cassie destroys that eggroll bitch.
@@zackrytran-point4400 Cassie doesn't destroy anyone. She's literally a clone character that's only relevant because of shitty writing in the worst MK story mode of all time.
Pity theres no mirror match between the original and whatever timeline this current Sindel is from. Honestly a bit bothered they didn't even do that.
Deception Sindel: You handed Edenia to Shao Khan!?
MK 11 Sindel: Jerrod was weak.
Deception Sindel: Onaga is dead and you're next.
MK 11 Sindel: You're a pathetic reflection of true power.
Deception Sindel: You're a pathetic excuse for a mother.
MK 11 Sindel: I will have your tongue for that!
Well done you have written a better sindel than the people paid to do it
Now I'm curious what more Midway Sindel vs Netherrealm Sindel dialogue would look like.
Sadly, I don't think that MK11's rules allow for different personalities between different versions of the same character. Which is understandable as personalities are what define characters at their most basic level, but still.
That’s beautiful we need that Sindel once again.
Dialogue thats in line with the actual character!? Wish mk11 knew what that meant
As Sub-Zero once said: “Such wasted potential.”
Sub zero is one of if not THE best character in Mortal Kombat. Just my opinion.
...and i say that *AGAIN!!!*
@@THEFLIPSIDE2920 yeah we can see you don't know about this much, it's Mileena. And yes, she is great but not necessary for the game. Too many villains
You damn right it is.
That is just a meme at this point
her retcon was just a way to satisfy the writers kinks.
Lmao she was thristy as hell for Sub Zero
Big tru
@@jadeyeti just a joke
@@BlackmanHD nah she was all over Jax
It’s sad that The Joker, who isn’t even from Mortal Kombat, is written better than Sindel.
It's official. Sindels personality and story retcon is now cemented and she is completely ruined. Thanks Aftermath DLC.....
I Completely agree. I was actually hyped for aftermath, but now, It ruined MK beyond repair.
@@inactivehorse9753 yes what a desappointment ! I too really hoped that mk 11 aftermath would fix that shitty retcon but no let's give sindel fans false hope
@@dominiquemendy6307 Aftermath was being worked before she was added, so yeah they couldn't fix her
I still personally hate the fact tat they changed her character
@@dominiquemendy6307 but holy shit people are overreacting, i know it sucks but it is still a fucking video game character
@@Mohmar2010 I hope you don't have favorite fictional characters.
Honestly, I'd have been okay with her heel turn IF she'd turned on Shao Kahn after they killed Kronika; you could have a great scene of her talking about the pain and suffering she's endured watching her realm being consumed by Outworld, the genocide of her people, the misery of her life as Shao Kahn's unwilling bride, the torment of her fate following her suicide and resurrection by Quan Chi, all as she whips the flesh from his bones with her hair. Then she turns round and faces Shang Tsung, and that's how you decide the fates of the realms: Sindel vs. Shang Tsung, the Edenian Queen vs. the Outworld Sorcerer, both previously servile to Shao Kahn against their wills, now both free of his bondage, fighting for the fates of countless billions of souls. After the fight, desperate to atone for the actions she had to take in order to keep Shao Kahn convinced she was on his side, Sindel kneels to Liu Kang as he steps through the portal, his faith in her being truly good being rewarded despite the risks Fujin had earlier worried about, and he sculpts a prosperous Edenia for her to rule over with grace and benevolence in the New Era in gratitude.
But nah, she's just evil, innit?
Fucking hate NRS sometimes.
That’s really nice I like that.
Hello! Can I write a fanfic about your idea?
"This is the real lore."
Seconds later
"This is a brand new interpretation of her personality."
How tf does NRS do that, those are literally two contradicting statements, their lacking of self awareness is hilarious😂😂
I genuinely wanna start an online petition for Stephen to get fired
@@jeyrey9835 even more proof NRS is destroying their character arcs. MK12 should just contain everything terrible MK11 did and amp it up even further. A story completely devoid of logic, bad voice acting for all characters by replacing steve blum as sub zero and Andrew bowen as johnny cage, even more sjw and political agenda nonsense, microtransactions to access certain parts of the main menu, a krypt that only gives so little amount of gold and other currency that you are forced to pay to even unlock a fraction of costume changes and other content, buggy gameplay with the online being worse
Lets make this the worst mk game ever, even worse than mk: special forces or mythologies: sub zero
@@lapplandkun9273 hey ease up on sub zero mythologies I kinda liked that game a little😂
MAJOR Bruh moment.
I’m so shocked, dude. Not only they ruined and changed her backstory. Not only they turned her to a forgettable cliche villain. Not only they turned her to a darn gold digger. But, they ruined and massacred her character. I’m not impressed. 😡
Your comment deserves more likes.
RealmOfWonders Really? Thanks, brother. Appreciate that. 😃
I agree a 100 percent with you. I’m mad at NRS😡😡
@@xxbrian69herxx88 fuck off
Krampus 2425, Ivy in Soulcalibur has skimpy clothing, but she’s an anti-hero like the old timeline of Sindel, so whenever you’re playing a video game you’re supposed to base the character off of their origins in the story mode instead of basing it off the gameplay and game design.
“Her personality matches her look.”
Action Shounen anime characters: "Are we a joke to you?!"
There are still plenty of shounen mcs that have interesting motifs and designs that make them great
dumbasses there are out there. Some people are just that stupid
@@lapplandkun9273 Huh??
QPh T clarification: people who defends the sindel retcon by saying that her personality matches her look. What you said basically
@@lapplandkun9273 Are you using Google translate?
I admit I didn't know much about Sindel when I played Mortal Kombat 11...but I did play MK9, and I remembered MK9. So even me, someone who got into this franchise via the NRS games, was still confused by this Sindel twist. Before the twist that she was evil all along, I had just assumed Shang Tsung brought back the mind-controlled version of her or put her under mind control of his own...but the twist came and I was very confused. Mainly from one BIG question.
"If Sindel was always evil here...then why did Quan-Chi need to mind control her into being evil in MK9?" Not following plot points from the original timeline is one thing...but how sad is it that NRS apparently couldn't even remember THEIR OWN plot points?
SonicHaXD pointed this out in his MK11 sucks video. It makes no sense
@@lapplandkun9273 yeah the retcon sicks but quan chi mind controller her so sindel dosent attack him because hes the one who killed her
But why would he even kill her? Shao Khan was gonna try to take earthrealm and if Sindel was alive, she would have helped. Quan Chi wanted Khan to try and conquer earthrealm cuz mk9 revealed that this was his goal all along to pave the way for Shinnok.
Different writers, I'm assuming.
Honestly, they switched Tanya and Sindel’s personalities. Originally, Tanya was the evil one while Sindel was the sympathetic one. Now, if you take Tanya’s MKX ending into consideration, Tanya is the one who cares for Edenia while Sindel is the one who does not.
Because in Woke Netherrealm Studios, POC's can't be villains! Need to be the white lady!
NataliaNeeSama As a person of color, I would’ve liked it if Tanya stayed as a villain.
@@theemperor3497 She literally is still a villain, y'all are all dumb. Caring about the realm, the fucking plane of existence she was from, does not make her less evil. She's totally self-serving and allies with evil people. She's racist against D'Vora lmao
@@NataliaNeeSama Tanya's still a villain your microagression didnt work for this context.
They are indeed ruining it. Tanya is friends with Mileena
Mileena’s dead, sindel is ruined and the storyline ended with the entire universe basically being deleted and then restarting all over again
WHAT ELSE COULD GO WRONG?
Literally nothing, given they'd be starting over with a clean slate (unlike MK9).
And both of them are my favorites. Why? :(
How is mileena dead if there’s clones of her? They could easily use another clone with some back story, idk but it’s a fact she’s coming next MK game. The cry for her is waaaay to loud to be ignored. Mark my words.
@@andrewaguayo115 clones arnt cannon ladder endings arnt cannon
Don't give them ideas for Mileena's return.
How dare they ruin a good character's backstory.
NOOB SAIBOT In Mortal Kombat 11, Sindel's retconned backstory was met with disdain and criticism from the fanbase, due to the fact of the developers changing Sindel from a good figure manipulated and controlled by evil forces to being sinister and cruel from the start.
Devs: There's a disconnection between the character's looks and lore, so we will make her an actual villain.
So...you would make Batman a villain? There are even stories of heroes that try to defy society's appearance bias and prove they're good guys.
Also, if they wanted to destroy this disconnection, why not change her outfit to be more royal or friendly?
I like the way you think, kid
Spawn. Unmasked.
There's literally no need for you to use the "Me" in that
@@croshbarandorocoot Fixed
@@leoncoben6983 Spawn even with the mask lmao
Damn. Even in the god awful MK Annihilation movie, they kept Sindel's character true to the core? LOL
BRUTALITY!!!!!!!!
Well played, sir
Seriously. If MK Annihilation tells a better story than you (i.e. the writers), you done screwed up.
@@TheSBleeder to bad YOU did not see it comeing sorry i had to XD
Midway Games: Sindel is a benevolent ruler who loved her husband.
Netherrealm Studios: Lies, Midway! You are a slave, and Kronika is your master!
Ryan M. Just because shes a villain it doesnt mean its bad,,,,like i dont get mad at the tv when harvey dent turns into two face etc
MatchesMalone but the problem is that they are retconning her whole character because they thought that she should look more like how she looks
@@Blackkey034 If Sindel was intended from the beginning to be a villain, like Kazuya Mishima in Tekken, or if the story didn't take place in the main continuity, like the Regime version of Wonder Woman in Injustice, or if she became a villain for reasons properly explained, such as Mr. Freeze, would've been fine. Making Sindel kill her husband is the equivalent of making Spider-Man kill Ben Parker. ruclips.net/video/tT55pvSe9R4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/k9ZB-zGUE7A/видео.html
@@ryanm.8720
Even closer example: Scorpion destroying the Shirai Ryu.
@@Blackkey034 Except Harvey dent turning into two face and becoming a villain has been a thing for his character forever in the Batman saga. Sindel was supposed to be a benevolent ruler, caring mother and loyal wife and a woman who would fight to protect Edenia, her people, and her daughter and now she's just an evil witch because netherrealm decided to subvert expectations no matter what, kind of what Rian Johnson did with Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi.
Midway Sindel:
Kills herself because she can't bear the thought of being with Shao Kahn, revived as a brainwashed witch for a single game, gets brought to her senses, rules Edenia as a benevolent queen alongside her beloved daughter, steps back into battle when said daughter gets brainwashed herself in order to bring her back and then fights at the side of good alongside her in the battle of Armageddon.
NRS Sindel:
Kills her husband (or was D'Vorah the one that killed him?) so she could be with Shao Kahn because he has a bigger dick and a love for konquest, gets killed by Quan Chi (or was it D'Vorah the one that killed her?) while putting a spell to ward Earthrealm from Shao Kahn... for... some... reason, then gets revived and ambiguously brainwashed by Quan Chi, kills most of the Earthrealm heroes along with her daughter (or was it D'Vorah the one that killed them?), becomes a revenant serving Quan Chi (so... nothing really changed there), spends the next game as a revenant, then gets brought back and reveals herself to be an evil gold digging thot who never loved her daughter anyway and ends up ganked by Shang Tsung alongside Shao Kahn (or was D'Vorah the one that killed them?).
And then they wonder why are the fans upset. Hey, Ed, would you by chance be upset if it was revealed that Scorpion was a child molester all along? No? Why? He looks pretty evil with the skull motif and all, there's gotta be something vile about him.
I hate NRS so much, really wish we still had John Tobias around 😖
lmfao this comment
Lmaooo I'm years late but the repetitive D'vorah comment kills me every time
This comment wins
@@-Blasphemy- D'Vorah gets so many random canon kills that I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up in MK1 just to leap through your screen into the real world and stab you in the heart with one of her stingers.
Not gonna lie, kinda wish MK ended with Armageddon...
Same 😞
Same here. Sure it wouldn't be a happy ending, but it would be a good send off to a once great franchise
I just don't understand how Ed Boon can just stand by and let NRS ruin soo many characters he helped create. Seriously what's his role over at NRS? Cause it's pretty obvious it's not lore master.
I feel like he's more of a figurehead nowadays.
Ed Boon should wake up and fire those two clowns!
John vogel (one of the original timelime's writers) worked on mk2011, it was his last credit in storyline.
During and after mk2011 the changes were evident in the way characters are written and voice actors are the ones that give them a sense of personality.
I doubt Ed Boon really cares about anything other than money.
neamraven He should just give up making Mortal Kombat. I’m done with Sonic Fox, Ronda Rousey, Dimitri Vegas. inconsistent storylines, and mumble rap music in MK trailers. Why would Ed Boon and the team keep rebooting everything after they’ve already rebooted the series eight years ago?!
Ed Boon tries so hard to destroy everything John Tobias created. This whole retcon situation is a disaster.
Tyler Black so true. Next sub zero will be a transgender from San Francisco
Tre' Roney I spit out my tea
Nivedha S. Krishnaraj I just left California and I met a bunch of weirdos. I just thought it would fit😂😂😁😁
Tre' Roney but you, good sir, just made my day 🤣
@@treroney4720 He gets a variation for each of the 572830 genders too 🤣
"I had the power to control the very fabric of time at my hands. There was no limit to what I could do. I could being back Jerrod, freeing him from eternal hell as a part of that red-clad monster. I could bring back Edenia, saving both my daughter and myself. I just didn't know where to start.
I started off small, with the revival of Jerrod and granting myself the gift of being able to raise my daughter to maturity. Then, I rebuilt Edenia, freeing it from Shao Kahn's grasp. And then... I killed Shao Kahn. Left him for the scraps, and offering refuge to the Outworlders.
Now, I finally live in peace. I govern Edenia once more, free of Shao Kahn's iron-fisted rule. I look after my sweet, little princess like the mother I could never be. It is my time to be the best queen that I can."
Ya see, Netherrealm? THAT'S how you write Sindel! I even threw in a little Ermac reference for all the fans of him! When will you learn?!
Great ending! 😁
Actually, that's a good alternative. Sindel could've used that power against Shao Kahn. And rule Outworld with Jerrod to make Outworld a peaceful place. But to also lead an army to protect realms. But no, Netherealm decided for her to become a traitor to her own people.
elp,gg
Like shit at this point may as well go the extra mile and even have her take pity on Mileena and rewrite her a new life as a friend of the family or something, because in 11 she atleast had compassion for her...weirdly enough but not her daughter.
NRS: I'm going to change sindel.
Fans: For the better, right?
NRS:
Fans: *For the better, right?*
That moment when you miss Midway making MK games
check out mortalkombatplus.com. the klassics, vastly improved.
In all fairness, Ed Boon has always been the primary creative force, or at least one of them (since you could include Tobias in the older games), so not much is different on that front.
Ikr
Midway, NR, doesn't make any difference since it's Ed Boon's fault.
Tim F I don’t think Ed did this. It was probably a different writer who did this though if Ed did do this, there goes my respect for Netherrealm Studios.
I miss John Tobias. I wished he never left. He was the mold to hold the stories together.
He had the writing and comic book writing background. Look at all the shit characters Ed Boon subjected us to after he left like Meat, Kobra and Hsu Hao.
@@anekisamurai6492 Yep they even took much of the humor out. Sure it got too goofy in the PS2 era but they didn't need to remove it all together.
I miss meat tbh...
@@anekisamurai6492 I didnt even really care for his story, I just like beating people with joke characters like D'vorah lol.
@@anekisamurai6492 I miss the Asian theming of the original games. It just seems like its pandering to the wrong audience now.
"You can't tell NetherRealm what to do with _their_ characters."
That's like defending a restaurant that intentionally puts poison in their food from the government by saying *_"yOu cAn't tElL ThEm wHaT To pUt iN ThEiR FoOd."_*
It isnt even their characters, they are tobias' creations that unfortunetly are now in NRS' hands
How is this an equivalency.
@@juju6257 It's just twitter behavior lmao
"She looks evil so she must he evil." Such a awful argument.
I was literally one of those new people who had no understanding of the old games’ story but watching your videos has really opened my eyes to the quite frankly awesome story of the old games and the awful story of the new ones.
@Jannie Peralta k
@Jannie Peralta calm down troll
@Jannie Peralta Ok Zoomer.
@Jannie Peralta Ok Jannie.
Amen, brother.
Y'know, something's always bothered me about the Revenant characters in MK11. Why are Revenant characters (and by association, Evil Raiden) given their Revenant forms as their default look when *none* of their dialogue was designed for Revenants at all? Kotal will still speak romantically with Revenant Jade, Liu Kang and Kitana will still speak romantically if one of them is a Revenant, Revenant Kabal still associates with the Black Dragon, Evil Raiden will ask Cassie *forgiveness* for Sonya's fate when he was literally stone-faced about it in Story Mode. Why is the portrayal of these characters so conflicted and contradictory???
Allow me to frame how ridiculous this can get: the moment I pick up the game, I go into a Tower with Kitana in her default Revenant skin and get into a fight against Noob Saibot. Noob then tells Revenant Kitana that Revenant Kitana is looking for her. Revenant Kitana responds by telling Noob that she has no more use for her Revenant. Noob retorts that Revenant Kitana wants Revenant Kitana’s soul. Imagine if I WASN'T already aware of these characters and their 20+ year history, and how stupid this interaction must be. I don't see how this managed to slip by the designers when MKX had separate dialogues for Revenant characteers, and IJ2 even had separate dialogues for Premium Skin characters like Power Girl or Reverse Flash.
A Bad Idea ye i think the dialogue system is getting worse....in injustice 2 the intros were either repeated or didnt make sense...especially superman repeating every damn thing all the time and batman not making sense...aswell as all the others of course....but in mk11 its just messed up how revenents talk like they arent revenants....fucking stupid.
@@jamjars865 During Injustice 2 there was a voice actor strike going on, which lead to repeated dialogue in intros and clash sequences even when it doesn't make sense in story mode
I honestly think they were being lazy here with the dialogue
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't x have some costume specific intros? I remember seeing a intro between Johnny wearing the mime costume and triborg where he straight up s says clowns are scarrier then robots.
They got lazy
I think out of all the characters NRS has fucked up the most, Sindel's has made me the most angry :/
The idea that her "personality didn't fit her look" is so generally insulting to a large group of people in real life that are depicted as being mean or evil in various media for virtually no other reason than wearing black/dark colours. That combined with literally everything you said in this video. It's just ridiculous.
Also the plug at the end for SC's Hilde though! Love her and the Soul series! Underrated fighting game series in my opinion! (sad that SCV almost killed it)
Soul series isn't underrated but it is wonderful and hilde is a great waifu
SFV did Arabs pretty decent justice with Rashid.
@@CarbonRollerCaco yep as a muslim as well I gotta say Rashid is great
DhampyrKing In Mortal Kombat 11, Sindel's retconned backstory was met with disdain and criticism from the fanbase, due to the fact of the developers changing Sindel from a good figure manipulated and controlled by evil forces to being sinister and cruel from the start.
Hattan AlShutaifi Sindel being evil in the new timeline could work as a mask of sorts to hide her true self akin to how Kitana originally was in MKII. Like mother, like daughter. Unfortunately, she never got the chance to free herself. Specifically in MK11A, if it wasn't Shinnok or Shao Khan, it was Shang Tsung. It took Fire God Liu Kang's trickery to save her.
NeitherRealm Game of Thronesed her Character. They "Kinda Forgot" how character development works
Look how they massacred my queen.
Oh look another evil queen... never seen that in fiction ever before...
The 3D era's writing wasn't perfect but it's an underrated gem compared to whatever the fuck MK11 is.
How the fuck does a subversion regress back into the cliche?
Check em
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They messed up lots of characters like Kabal turning him into a mindless greedy criminal henchman/bad ex cop
@SpiteNY they changed his story from being a cop who got tricked n turned bad after he got burnt by kotaro n they used magic to wipe his memory n give him his speed to he was currupt from the start n joined the black 🐉 bc he wanted to. Look up his full story in 11
@@anekisamurai6492 they did everyone wrong from Sub zero scorpion storyline noob n collector sindel being turned into a hoe. She literally sacrificed herself to get away from shao Khan n protect earthrealm n kitana twice n they do this to her. The timeline had so much potential. Don't care about sjw as long as it's a good story n no bashing men
He has been apart of the black dragon clan since day 1 bro your a little smoked for this one
@@DrippleDragon no he was not apart of the special police force with Stryker. During mortal Kombat 2 timeline when Khan's forces were attacking earthrealm he got burned by kotaro. Khan's forces took him back have him the breathing machine n used magic to bring him back ie why he has the super speed. His mind is wiped and his fights with the black dragon till he gets his memories back n he joins the earth team until he's captured and used again on the bad side. Also all of that he was always a black dragon is bs bc he was also an undercover officer in the organization. Another reason Kano wanted him so bad
They completely ruined Kabal imo
Sindel: "You betrayed Mileena, D'vorah."
D'vorah: "Why care for that disgusting clone?"
Sindel: "She was as much my daughter as Kitana."
See, like...I do enjoy the idea of Sindel taking pity on Mileena and seeing her as her daughter in spite of her hatred of Shao Kahn, but this Sindel is openly shown to not care at ALL for Kitana, so like...DOES she see Mileena as her daughter? Does she care about her at all? It's either contradictory to all her other characterization or completely unimportant to bring up since it'd mean she didn't actually care for her. Tearing down a beloved character's previous portrayals for a simple, boring portrayal completely contradictory to her previous lore and then claiming it was the truth all along is monstrously disrespectful, but not even being able to keep consistency in that boring portrayal in the very same game it debuts in is just sad.
@Alain Smith What if, twisted as Mileena may be, Sindel still saw her daughter in the bloodthirsty hybrid? Given she raised Kitana since she was a baby, that maternal love may want to reach out to Mileena as well.
Of course MK11 Sindel hates Kitana's guts, so if Mileena was her daughter just as much, it's not really saying much.
neonal18 Nu-Sindel hates Kitana's guts because Kitana turned out to disagree with being shameless with one's power. She would see Mileena as what she wanted Kitana to be.
But if MK9's story is canon, Mileena was never a "daughter" to Sindel, as she was created by Tsung long after her death. Kitana is already an adult, as is Mileena.
You gotta remember too i mixed it up this is revenant Sindel talkin
@@CarbonRollerCaco i know I’m a bit late on this but given Thotdel’s personality, why would she even care for mileena? In her intros with Baraka, she is shown to outright hate the tarkatans and she mainly sees them as slaves. She also despises weak people so much that she is willing to kill her own family member just to get a powerful person on her side. Mileena is literally half-tarkatan and Sindel hates tarkatans. Mileena has also lost every fight she’s been in from mk9 to mkxwhich pretty much defines her as weak, not to mention losing to Kitana. if we r going by Thotdel, there is no way she would claim her as her daughter as she is weak due to her fights being losses and the fact she has features of a slave race which she hates. Her liking mileena is very contradictory and doesn’t make any sense
I've never been much of a fan of Sindel's design/gameplay but still liked her story and sympathized with her, but as someone that writes a lot of stories for comics, I think it's absolutely asinine what they did to Sindel. This is an old saying but: DON'T FIX WHAT ISN'T BROKEN, she was well good enough as she was before, we don't need an evil mamacita bearing her name and likeness
GT M as a writer u should know its good to try new things,,,,mortal kombat has evolved AGAIN and again,,,
@@Blackkey034 True, new things are always welcome. But they should come in a new shell, not a used old one where you fit a carcass inside and give it another colour and call it alive. What I mean by this is: This should have just been a new character, because what we got in 11 is NOT Syndel. It goes against everything she stood for since the beginning and makes a bastardization out of it to the point she's generic and unrecognizable. Even though this is a new timeline, 9 kept things mostly consistent for her, but 11 pretends nothing ever happened, that's just awful writing.
Also, I have to vehemently disagree with MK evolving... They keep going SO FAR backwards...
Midway made a tangled mess in the span of 8 games.
After becoming Netherealm Studios, they decided the best plan was to untangle the mess.
In the span of 3 games, they tangled it even more than before.
How do you pull that off?
It's a rebooted timeline where many events that occurred in the original timeline were altered. Some more than others. The new timeline was never going to be a 1:1 retelling of the original events.
Besides, Sindel's new backstory is way better. She's a proper villain now. Not some cowardly pushover that killed herself.
Her original backstory, while somewhat unique and not cliche, was nonsensical and poorly thought out. I mean, think about it. While her realm was getting decimated for 9 straight generations, on the verge of losing her realm, she stood by and did nothing? Then, after their 10th defeat and Kahn's merger of Edenia being allowed by the Elder Gods, she still does absolutely nothing? No last ditch effort? Then, wanting nothing to do with Shao Kahn's madness, she flees and KILLS HERSELF? She left her daughter by herself with the same madman that killed her husband and absorbed her realm. That's a "loving" mother? We're expected to believe that this cowardly woman is supposed to be a powerful person? She was nothing more than a coward and a pushover until she was resurrected and brainwashed. While her new backstory might be kind of cliche, it at least establishes her as an alpha right from the start. She was always strong, and always had an ulterior motive. She wanted power. She wanted to be worshipped, and she didn't care who she hurt to get it.
I don't want to sympathize with major villains, or to believe that they can be redeemed. I want them to be evil.
Evil bitch > Pussy bitch.
Did you not see their "female" pr person on this video? NRS is fucked up now.
They fucked it up because the better writter/creator Tobias isn't apart of the team anymore.
I have no idea
Actually they changed her 3 times 1. Kills herself cause who tr would want to be a slut for Shao Kahn 2. Went down in a epic last ditch attempt. At stopping Shao Kahn only to fail but at least dying as one badass caring momma fighting to the very end 3. Fuck you im evil and like sex and power and dont give a fuck about anybody cause im a cheap great value brand of Mileena Skarlet Tanya and Kronika. Your argument is invalid get clapped and learn your history
"There was always a disconnect between how she looked .... and acted and gameplay". They don't get it. They can't be that dumb. WHY NOT JUST MAKE A NEW CHARACTER?! Create a kingdom. Make a golddigging queen who kills her husband and have Khan take her as his new/second wife and push Sindel to the side but still keep her brainwashed. There, you have the evil power couple you wanted, keep Sindels character, and further establish Khan's obsessive greed. Then you could also do a evil step mother bit or explore the duality between Sindel who sacrificed everything and the new character who threw it all away (giving Sindel a ideological enemy)
This "disconnect" made her interesting. And what had happened with idea "don't judge book by its cover"? Isn't it one of the basic "progressive" ideas ever?
@YOSHIKA MIYAKO they execute it, but then keep the terrible new version of Sindel so they can have a couple "cat fights" every game between the two characters. It ends with Sindel having a redemption ark where she "wins back her man." Honestly NRS is getting to the point of self-parody with these retcons and I would love if a indie dev did a mock mortal kombat game. Could be hilarious.
@YOSHIKA MIYAKO I have played Tekken with friends, but mainly 6. 7 seemed okay, the bit I played it. I'm not knowledgeable about the series, and I don't know much about Tekken's story.
@YOSHIKA MIYAKO imo tekken 7 is a bit better cause it's focused on a specific character arc. While it's a bummer the others don't even get a nod in the main story, they just don't fit with the mishima arc anymore cause they have their own goals and motives even if the world is going to shit. Poor eddy tho...
It’s called: don’t judge a book by its cover.
Sometimes, the nicest, most compassionate people may not always look like it; either literally (black and purple, sexy, dominatrix gear), or metaphorically (bad first impression due to brainwashing).
And sometimes, the people who seem to radiate charm and affability are horrific sociopaths who use and abuse those around them and then throw them away once they’ve worn out their use. One of the signs of adulthood is the WISDOM to see through bullshit when it rears its head.
So being changed from a caring mother and abuse victim that fought their way back from death and slavery to save the world and her daughter, into a gold digging murder-thot that propositions every man she meets is somehow considered _good writing_ by these hacks? Who did these people learn to write from? A 10 year old with ADHD? If it was an actual class, they need to demand their money back because it obviously wasn't worth the money they spent.
Kitana is my favorite Mortal Kombat character, and to already see her go from Combo Queen to complete garbage. That was really off-putting, despite how much I loved her new design and overall personality, I stuck around, even though my other main, Kabal, had a weird continuity error in his storyline. And then Sindel came around! Oh awesome! Kitana's mother and my best friend's favorite! Her backstory is completely retconned. I never played MK prior to MK 2011, but even I knew this retcon was complete bullshit. I bought her as DLC, and then I realized... I shouldn't be paying for this. I shouldn't have to pay full price for a game upon release only for me to purchase extra content for the game to feel complete... And that's when I realized I was overall disappointed with MK11. The cast has no reason to be as small as it is. And there was no reason to pretend a lot of iconic characters like Mileena, Smoke, Ermac, and Reptile don't exist. It's complete bullshit. It's the same shit from MKX. Jade, Sindel, Smoke and Kabal were just randomly gone when they had no reason to be. It's honestly the same bullshit Soul Cal V pulled where they said that Astaroth killed the entire cast out of nowhere. I absolutely loathe that game. If I can't play Seong Mina, you can bet I'll be pissed. And then SC6 came out... But for some reason, I didn't find myself continuing the game... And I think it was the same reasons I mentioned above. Most of the cast was gone and I think I knew deep down this game felt empty. And that's why I stopped playing that game too. Fighting games have become complete blatant cash grabs and it upsets me. We shouldn't have to pay for games to feel complete. It's completely unfair. Overwatch releases characters every few months and nobody has to pay a single cent. Anyway, great video. I completely agree with everything you've said. I hope NRS will finally get their crap together and fix-No, completely OVERHAUL this disappointment.
When did SC5 ever say that Asaoroth killed most of the cast? And SC6 brought back every classic character in the franchise.
REAL Sindel: was mind-controlled to fight against her people to help Shao Kahn rule over all of the realms.
Retconned Sindel: well...Shao Kahn’s strong...so I’ll betray my people to be the queen of a strong ruler.
NRS calls this ‘progressive’
Edit: I would’ve accepted this if she was only playing Shao Kahn to save Edenia, or if she sacrificed he husband and her freedom to be Shao Kahn’s queen because it was the only way to keep Edenia/her family safe.
Wow...I just retconned Sindels’ story better than the shitty writers at NRS.
i like your idea
Again, there WERE ways to do this "twist" without destroying her character. 4thSnake actually covered something like this where at the final battle at Kronica's Keep just when Kahn is about to win Sindel betrays him as she formulated a secret plan with Kitana to allow them victory against Shao Khan and Shung Tsung. It was a all a ruse and in the end it's a tag-team with mother and daughter against the man who ruined their lives for so long and ultimately killing him.
@@Webshooters1 THIS WOULDVE BEEN AMAZING yet doesn’t work because of her intros but i like the idea
what isn’t “progressive” about that lol are you trying to make the argument that her new character lore is sexist against women just because you don’t like it? you’d go that far? 💀 evil women not being independent and wanting to rule alongside a man is definitely not common, usually they’re very independent or evil women either evil men usually aren’t “as” bad, or were coerced into being bad, so them equally being shit isn’t something seen often. so it is progressive for depiction of villainess’s but obviously we don’t see it often cause it pisses off so many people that want to see one dimensional emotional nurturing women characters cause they treat games like dating apps to recruit new “waifus” to jack off to
It’s officially over Snake, she’s gone...
Yep she's gone.....Forever. Rip old Sindel.
It's over, Jarek
Undead This was not a brutality.
This was a retcon!
Might as well getting use to the new Sindel.
@Primus The Fourteenth It's not what you're thinking, I miss her old personality too.
Yeah, I really miss the characterisation from the original timeline and particularly around Deception. I really miss the freed and honourable Ermac, the benevolent Sindel and the more than just a a far left propaganda token black man Jax, just to name a few
Andrew Crompton this is what im talking about,,, most of the people watching this video are just here to “stop the leftist propaganda “ and while i do agree with u that the left has a lot of propaganda and are sneaky fuckersss,,, but this isnt that,,,, jax isnt even that left leaning,,,,like yes he said he would stop slavery but who gives a shit,,,,NOT EVERYTHINGS LEFTIST PROPAGANDA
@@Blackkey034 Wrong. Jax literally says "get Woke" in an non-ironic tone in his ending and selfishly goes against Raiden's wishes to make black people have it better than anyone else while his daughter only used time to save her dad despite him not even giving a fuck about her in his ending.
And if he wanted to "stop slavery' why the hell does his ending only show blacks? Are slaves now only from Africa?
Free Ermac was the sickest.
Jax isn't "far left" propaganda and the fucking word "woke" isn't either. In case y'all missed actual government classes, far left literally means anarchist.
@@TheBallinCollin96 well they have been acting like that during the riots
So if Sindel was murdered, then who placed the spell on Earthrealm to save it from Shao Kahn? Quan Chi? Why would he do that? Is she was always evil, I don’t see why she wouldn’t help Shao Kahn conquer the other worlds. If the ward was a lie, then how does that even work? Shao Kahn just went along with the lie of the spell preventing him from conquering earthrealm?
Ok 4thSnake, when are we getting our “MK11 ruined Sindel” t-shirt?
I'd buy it
I would definitely buy it
I'd be happy with an "MK 11 ruined MK" tee. Just as truthful.
@@Chibi1986 or netherrelm ruines Mortal Kombat but all three are okay
Or a t-shirt with:"NRS are moneygrabing a..holes!!!
That's not Sindel, that's a Fanfiction writers idea of Sindel in a story........one that doesn't realize how characters work
+Starr Smith As a Fanfiction writer I resent that. For your information I respect the characters I write about and try my best to depict them faithfully (unless I'm writing a deliberate parody).
@Alain Smith Some people want you to judge on their appearance, maybe that is an idea they are ok pushing.
Irony has no bounds
@Alain Smith agreed
It feels like they only saw how she looked and went from there, either not knowing her full backstory or straight up ignoring it
@@Wright805 I didn't mean ALL fanfiction writers. For the love of God I read fanfiction and even write it myself a bit. But I've seen more than one author completely villianize characters
Wtf was the point of mind controlling her to be evil if she WAS ALREADY EVIL
MK11 sindel is just Cersei Lannister with a dom kink.
fuzzy apple pie do some research on cersei plsssss,,,,,she was the opposite of sindel,,,but u are just here for the trend arent u
At least Cersei loved her kids. She was a bitch, schemer and manipulator but she genuinely loved her children. Sindel doesn't even care about Kitana at all. So not only is she a horrible wife, but awful mother as well.
I've noticed a theme with the new characters and writing of the classic characters. Almost none of the characters are compelling. Take a look at Kollector for example. Who is he? What does he do? Why is he here? Is he important to the story? He's just a multilimbed thing that collects gold and has a weird accent. How compelling eh? Literally could've replaced him with reptile.
As for a classic character, take Shao Kahn. He was a patient, intelligent and powerful ruler of Outworld that was almost always on top of things. Now he's just some incompetent big brute who bursts into a tantrum every 5 minutes. See what I mean??
Dino Goodley u no what.......thats actually true....replace kollector with reptile in every damm scene and it could go the same way.....fucking twats wasted a slot and story time for reptile....
Shallow characters that don't really contribute anything surfaced back in the 3D era. But Midway had the brains to treat the classic ones with respect, at least.
@@JahlisMan shallow characters like? Could you please give examples?
What they could've done with Kollector is have Shao Kahn use his hoard to help pay for a new army- recruit mercenaries or refugees from the Shokan, Tarkatans, Centaur, etc knitted out of the enemies that despise Kotal. Or maybe Kollector found an ancient artifact that Kronika or Shao Kahn needs to increase their power, so he gives it to them in exchange for a rise in his station.
@@musicmodjoe2139 divorrah, kollecter, erron black, every single villain, sindel, etc
This is what happens when bad writers don't understand deep and complex characters, and decide to do no fact checking before writing for one anyway.
rcblazer it’s really not that deep.
I Think We Can Agree That MK11 Ruined A Lot Of Characters
Subzero, Kitana, Jade, Scorpion, Liu Kang , Kung Lao, Raiden, Jacqui, Sindel, Sonya, Johny cage From character to appearance to costumes (yes I prefer they Mk9 and MkX , especially X, costume. Idc if it sexualized. Its part of MK’s Charm) to voice actor and the effing story. The time travel story is really jarring and boringly predictable.
@@souseiseki90 Exactly Not To Mention some voice actors like ronda rousey and kronika was a boring villain it's like needed an excuse to justify all those retcons i dont have hopes for mk12 honestly
oh, you're gonna be mad as hell at Aftermath....
I am mad as hell at Aftermath......I ALMOST got my hopes up and then it got crushed
@@thalianox2492
Same in that game I found the new person to Hate Sindel until I watched the Armageddon cutscenes and I was like okay she's not that bad here and then I saw Deception cutscenes and I was like okay I hated the wrong person but I found new people to hate nr dumbasses who thought it was a good idea so yeah I became interested in MK with 9 but never saw Armageddon and Deception cutscenes Last week so my opinion had changed
@@dimensionduelist4149 mk 9 and Mkx are still great games and Sindel was good in them but not as good as deception.
@@spider-manunknown9193
That's optional also SHE WAS UNDER CONTROL. Also Deception She was Great in that game a caring person and showed me what she was like in the old timeline
@@dimensionduelist4149 she’s better in the old timeline 100% but I don’t mind what they did in mk9 and MKX but I do mind for what they did in mk11
“It’s the real lore. It’s pretty big for Sindel.” Sure it is. Not the interesting story and arcs she had in the older games. Fuck that. “Bad old lady” is the best we got
Frankly it's about time. I've gotten fed up with seeing only "bad old men" as the evil side of MK.
@lodatz ...are you fucking serious? Did you even pay attention to the video or are you just trolling?
It's true big, she looked like an evil dominatrix who wanted to rule the world, and was the good one. Now she looks like an evil dominatrix who wants to rule the world... and that's it. The cover resumes the book, ahh Netherealm.
@@miguelcolon9319 yes I'm serious, yes I saw the video, and yes it's still true.
This new Sindel is better.
@lodatz this sindel is not nor will it ever be better than the original sindel because the original sindel was actually a character who loved her daughter and realm and not a one dimensional, backstabbing evil queen who only cared about her own power. If you actually believe that this whore is an improvement on what was already a great character then we have nothing more to discuss and good day to you.
What surprises me is the reasoning. There's a disconnect between her looks (i.e. gothic aesthetic) and personality as per Stephanie's lore minute? Implying looks = personality is a bad avenue for the retcon, it's also problematic that NRS thinks a victim cannot gain agency after a tragedy and decided to remove her plight from her story instead.
STEVE sounds like he doesn't know anything about Mortal Kombat and more about identity politics.
TheAngeluco being a transphobic dick has nothing to do with this
This. It’s so sad that supposed writers are basically saying that a character who LOOKS evil SHOULD be evil or it won’t make sense...
It was just like saying JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER. So horrible, im happy Mileena is not in this game. They would have screwed with her character too
Having Queen Sindel's evil actions not be a product of mind control is probably the worst decision they've ever made. It disregards the entire character of a self-righteous queen just trying to do what's right for her daughter and people. Not a uncaring queen who submits marriage to the man who INVADED her homeworld of Edenia and killed her freaking husband. and yes, I still refuse to take the retcon as canon of her killing Jarrod for Shao Kahn. 😑 Who seriously looked at this and thought this was Sindel #NotMySindel
Okay, I totally thought I was crazy for thinking this. I kept saying “but... isn’t she not really evil?” It was killing me listening to her dialogue.
sindel did not deserve this. she is a benevolent queen and loving mother and this is what i will tell people when they ask me who sindel is.
and also for a character who has gone through abuse both mental and probably physical....she would be extremely relatable just like harley quinn before they made her annoying as fuck...
I dont think anyone cares about what you tell people LOL
But i guess the people that you’ll tell will search about her later but then remember you as the idiot who thinks he knows everything and answers about something he doesn’t know for no reason, they’ll basically stay away from yo dumass, period.
Fahmy Magdy your the only idiot here bitch.....coming on a channel that is discussing the stupid retcon to a beloved character. you should jus run off to other channels who support crappy storytelling, shitty retcons and character assassination....and bitch i know mortal kombat and its lore so eat shit
Hey stupid, if you're not gonna study the lore of Mortal Kombat properly then you should shut the hell up. How would you feel if Sub zero all of a sudden gained fire powers without explanation? Or Scorpion killing his family and clan just so he can have an excuse to blame it on Sub zero and the Lin Kuei? If you really cared about the games and the characters themselves you'd be upset with this too but I see you're one of these mindless twats that believe Netherealm is always right and can't make mistakes. This is why we keep getting shitty games and unnecessary and unneeded characters. Get outta here with that Bullshit, pal!
@@fahmymagdy3517 honestly I'm the one laughing at you,
Because you're one of the most hypocritical people I've ever met
"The idiot who thinks he knows everything"
So...
You?
"Whiny little crybabies"
So...
You?
Seriously, who whine about other people who are expressing opinions
I don't check comment sections often...
But when I do and see comments like yours I can't lie,
I get a good laugh out of it
So thank you! My days a lot better now! 😁
From QWEEN to HOE.
4:09 That's the same excuse the crazier Harry Potter fanboys and fangirls use to justify Rowling's stupid retcons. They go "It's her story. She can do what she wants" even though good writers put things in their series that make sense to the story, characters and world. Bad writers retcon in things and people that were never mentioned, referenced or hinted at and claim they were there all along so obsessed fans thinking "It's so and so's story" is an excuse for bad writing are idiots.
I don't understand how people say shit like "this gives her more agency as a character" turning her into a power hungry golddigger who kills her husband out of spite and only goes with Shao because he's a conquering dick is what makes her better?? Yeah okay lmao.
Not only do I feel the newer games play a lot shittier than the 3d ones, the nrs stories completely betray their characters too. I think the only characters that were really handled okay in the new timeline was just the special forces, Liu Kang (when he's not being an irrelevant fucking revenant), and Raiden (who they severely wasted as dark Raiden yet again)
"this is the real lore"
i was watching that kombatkast,and i turned off right there
do not tell people who have followed these games form the arcade games that this is the "real lore" now
"real lore" that gets rebooted after every 2 games lol.
Pure arrogance on their part.
Reminds me of what the current leaders at Lucasfilm are doing to Star Wars!
FuryanJedi13 bro the reedemed liu kang and u are comparing them to star wars? At least liu kang or sindel didn5 become jokes
alex field bro can u just be mature and accept how the studio handles it? U cann all express yourselves but being rude is just self indulgent
@@Blackkey034 I respectfully decide to think this is absolute dogshit
It didn’t quite occur to me u til you said it just now. It’s actually pretty disgusting to have a character who sacrificed herself to protect a realm from a megalomaniac, then turn them into a power couple. And for Stephanie or whoever the hell that is sitting there spouting that bullshit was just...beyond words.
I very much dislike Stephanie in eventing i see them in.
NRS needs to fire all the SJWs.
I personally liked how they did older Johnny I liked how he just grew up from being just the comic relief
Just wait till you see her in the Aftermath story
At this point, I don't want those two touching any more female MK characters. I can already imagine they'd just make Sareena into a crazy evil goth chick and miss the point of her concept.
I don't want them touching classic characters at all.
Apparently she has a relationship with kabal now and encourages him to rise up in the black dragon.
@@Pyrochomper81632 Somehow the writing keeps getting worse
Dude your starting to make me feel glad Mileenas not in this.
Monopool as a Sareena fan, I support your opinion!
I'm still confused as to why they made kitana look Asian when neither of her parents are Asian.
I was thinking the same thing.
Because ...Liu Kang is Chinese?
I guess they forgot to include in sindel's ending of mk11 that she also had an affair with some random dude, which she filmed on her phone and showed to king jerrod before killing him
because a lot of Edenian designs are Asian I think they chose Asians as the base model for Edenian characters. Sindel's guan dao or crescent blade, Kitana's war fans, Mileena's Sais. If you look at Jerrod and Ermac (who's supposedly Edenian mostly) in MK9, it shows a lot of Asian designs. Games these days are using facial scans of existing models so they probably asked for an asian female model for the face instead of making them from scratch like in previous games.
She looks better Asian tho
Maybe during the next game they will be like "suprise, that was Quan Chi possessing Sindel to fool everyone"
That is probably the only way they could come back from this.
Plus, it would explain the banshee spirit.
Quan Chi is dead though.
I didn't expect that bump for Hilde in SC VI at the end, but it (did) put a smile on my face because Hilde is my favorite Soul Calibur female of all time. ❤️
Also yes, NRS ruined Sindel.
Her Deception ending happens to be my favorite one in the game and that image of her tearfully hugging Kitana is very iconic/nostalgic to me. That image from Deception of her knighting Shujinko is very iconic/nostalgic to me also.
Lets just pretend that this is her clone and the real sindel is trap some where
In other news: Dumbledore is gay.
We don't talk about what JK Rowling is doing to Harry Potter
Watt
Who cares. Rowling is a globalist. Next she'll have the characters using their wands for butt-stuff.
Oh no! We don't talk about that. Plus. Let the franchise die.
But why
And I thought Wonder Woman was the most poorly handled and characterized immortal, yet beautiful badass warrior monarch in a Netherrealm game...
How was she poorly handled? In which game? Because if we're talking evil Wonder Woman, evil versions of DC characters are always non-apolegetic douchebags
Silent Madness the evil version from Injustice 2. And it’s not that making evil counterparts to classic heroes is bad in itself, but the way she was handled compared to other characters was poor. All the other Justice Leaguers maintained their original personalities to a point in injustice, and were at least given motivation to go down dark paths as they did. Wonder Woman was just made deceitful, power hungry, and bloodthirsty from the beginning, which is not at all how the true Wonder Woman is meant to be portrayed, and it’s at odds with the other more faithful characterizations of the other heroes. The4thSnake actually discusses this in his two Injustice critique videos and his Wonder Woman wasted plotential video. Go check those to see what I mean
@@noahlarose7371 Watched some of his videos, mostly his actual criticisms on Injustice and WW as she's portrayed. (Didn't listen to the rewrite stuff since I don't usually care for that since it's less relevant to me and usually rewrite pitches either dont interest me, or rarely impress me and just come off as fan fiction-like, no offense to him.) After listening to it, I understand his criticisms and yours (Even if i have a much higher opinion of the Injustice story overall AKA I enjoy it and think the comics, and the second game are solid stories) as someone who is a big DC fan. I guess I never realized the dichotomy between evil WW, Batman and Superman (Though I personally think an evil superman is always out of character, Red Son being the exception.) because I've never really had a great grasp of Wonder Woman beyond the basics. While I'm not a big fan of Superman either, it's easy to understand his character inside and out, since like 4thDragon said, he and Batman outshine her.
Sorry for the super long response.
I sympathize with you! As a Star Wars fan, I understand the frustration of seeing new writers come in and fuck shit up just because they can!
Makes me long for the days pre Disney
6 months later, netherealm doesn't give a f* about our concerns.. Anyone who has watched the Aftermath knows what I am talking about 😒
What about Kabal? they ruin him as well, now he 's just a bunch of "speed jokes" instead of what he used to be
Ravenarrogant Ha. Sadly he’s a speedster now, thank injustice.
@@killbotjames22 He was also a corrupt cop.
Edit: He's now a corrupt cop, before he was an anti hero.
Let's just agree they ruined everything.
He's a Deadpool Rip Off
@@Daniel-gk8bq How? Because he's a burn victim?
People say that we overreact over fictitious characters, that it is wasted passion, but I find there is nothing wrong with believing in something that you care about, and Sindel is no exception. As a major pillar of the forces of light corrupted and claimed by tragedy, sindel was a victim that everyone who believed and adored her character wanted to save. Now that she is this....doppelganger, this warped and distorted Jezebel that is completely unrecognizable to me, I cannot abide what NRS have done. They have betrayed those whose trust matters most, and they have condemned her to a fate worse than any punishment real or fantastical. She was important to us, she was real to us.
There is such thing as too much of an overreaction, but 4thsnake isn't that. I'm baffled we couldn't have more compassionate characters in MK. What, did past Scorpion's redemption take up too much?
I think you nailed it with the first two statements of your comment.
Ehhh face reality mate it's a fookin game.
What else are we going to be passionate about. Reality? Fuck that. Life is a joke, might as well spend my energy on something that at least used to make me happy. Instead of what a cunt insert politician name here is.
They literally took Jax and Sonya and made them ugly as sin. Kano cured his baldness. None of it makes any sense. Why are you guys complaining now?
They took a character who's big thing was not judging a book by its cover and then remade her character based entirely on her appearance. How do you mess up that badly?
Just because she looked gothic before. Looking evil and actually being evil are very 2 very different things. They made her a thot too. Completely ruined her character.
For fucks sake! I just finished playing MK 11 Aftermath, and I had hope they would get Sindel right this time, BU THEY DID IT AGAIN! She pretended to care for Kitana when she was resurrected by Fujin and Shang Tsung, said that Shao Khan killed her and Quan-Chi bewitched her. But then she straight up tells us that she was NEVER bewitched. Fucking Netherrealm Studios ruining Sindel again. @The4thSnake rant about this shit again please!
I'm convinced they faked a "heartwarming" moment only to go back to their stupid new canon and other things in Aftermath just to fuck with people like 4th Snake.
My coworker and I was talking about this at work... he goes "so they just turned her into an MK Cersi Lanister!?"
Me:.... Basically
Jonathan Barker your coworker doesnt know shit because cersei did what she did FOR her children..... just grow up
@@Blackkey034 yeah...nah she didn't lmao
Jonathan Barker Cersei Lannister ain't gold digging nor flirty and she actually loved all her children unlike Sindel who disowned Kitana and killed her in the last game. The only thing Sindel and Cersei share is Queen status and cruelty.
@Dylan Sharp if you mean in terms of spelling, you should ask the other guy that, he's the one who spelled her name that way
@Dylan Sharp an villainous queen from Game of Thrones who set up the death of her king/husband
It truly doesn't seem fair to the people that have been here this long
Kori_ Marz like u give a shit about their feelings,,,,u just are here for political reasons
Who’s here after she is good again in MK1?
5:15 I entirely agree. Seeing her overcome her trauma and become a family with Kitana again would have been super character development.
how many people have canonically killed jerrod lmao
Only shao kahn killed jerrod the rest is bullshit
@SomeFilthyCasual no
Raiden: I killed Jerrod after consulting the elder gods about it!
Elder gods: We told Raiden to kill Jerrod!
Kollector: I killed Jerrod because he owed me $5!
Jerrod: I killed myself so I could become Ermac and become more powerful!
Kronika: I killed Jerrod and made everybody think they did just for the lulz!
Kitana: What the f&$@?!?!
Yes
😂😂😂 facts
You know the writing is terrible when Sindel claims to love Mileena more than Kitana but in her arcade ending there’s no Mileena cameo. Why wouldn’t Sindel bring her more favored daughter back?
They can’t even be consistent.
It really seems nrs tried to replace mileena with skarlet, it didn't even make sense for skarlet to be in the story mode since shao had already made mileena.
Jordan13299 that sounds pretty picky
@@TheRetardedbackpack EXACTLY but like im still glad they brought back skarlet
They ruined her they should of brought her back as the loving and caring mother too Kitana
NRS: “we’re becoming progressive”
Also NRS: employs prejudice with Sindel, judging her by her looks, becoming regressive.
It's also kinda funny how they could have done her WELL and made it feminist by having her be an advisor to her daughter Kitana as the latter rules Outworld. Kind of like how in Game of Thrones Tywin was shaping up to be that for Tommen, or how Yoda was to Luke in Star Wars EPV. Good Sindel could have helped Kitana be a great queen, but they had to botch that for "agency" and making her a villain again. What a joke.
Not very feminist like. Mentors are for weak men who start out as weak and only gradually graduate into heroism thru the development arch of their story. It implies a strong female character used to be weak at some point in history, and that is stupid nonsense! Strong Women have to be strong from the start. It would also make wom*n follow the path men, and that is another VERY PROBLEMATIC issue.
kof ola wtf? Sindells always been a bitch
HolyknightVader999 just because u dont like her story or because shes a villain ,,,,it doesnt mean its bad......
@@Blackkey034 The evil version of her is a bitch, but that's not her true self.
@@kofola9145 Yep. That is modern day's problem with WAHMEN
TFW SFV is more respectful and accurate to it's long standing characters
Chun Li only has 2 playable fights the entire story mode
@@jacoblopez2111 Zangief and Guile have less despite being around just as long as her and Cammy has more than Chun, the most any character has is 4 and those for Ryu, the main character
"That feeling when when..." Just saying, it's like "RIP in peace" = "rest in peace in peace."
@@brucenatelee - That's the joke, mate.
Marlon Montel Higgins
Isn’t it “Rip in piece?”
Clearly, Netherrealm are intent on making their characters less interesting than their original counterparts.
Yup and bringing in cash money characters like joker rambo
People forget it is a game that you pay for if you want to play it. If I pay for something and I do not like the product I get for my money I have a right to bitch about it.
Exactly.
@@The4thSnake YOU RUINED THIS CHARACTER YOU SWINE. SHE IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER AND YOU RUINED HER IN YOUR GODAWFUL STORY OF MK11
@@The4thSnake Stupidssssss
@@The4thSnake You made sindel a shitty bitch.
@@harleyqueen1588 I didn't write MK11.
You even got kids out here saying Sindel was always evil ugh 😩
She's certainly more interesting when evil. Good guy characters are so bland, and often so cheesy. Evil is spicier.
Lodatz 100%. Maybe not the gold digger, but Sindel is always more interesting when she is under mind control and on the evil side. Period 🤣
Lodatz so being mind controlled by a wizard to be bad isn’t spicy enough ?
@@harveydent1731 I mean, it's just a cop out, when you really look at it.
Sindel before MK11: *Has one of the most interesting arc in MK and a really complex character*
MK11 Sindel: BUT IT'S A LIE.
i got the reference
Complex? Really?
@@GamesSackBoy Yes
@@GamesSackBoy yes really
All they fucking did is ruin whole lore to oversexualize a character adored by fanbase cuz of her personality and cuz she was a victim of such bs by shao khan.
They also screwed with Kabal. They couldn’t even keep his story straight between 9 and 11.