The drum sound is great on G Live...I love the album. I also LoVE Seconds Out, the band had so much energy at this time. The 90s live albums were from the We Can't Dance tour btw😎
Hey Ian!. "Genesis Live" had a Disc 2 (i.e. a live version of "Supper's Ready"), from the same Rainbow show, which was only released to radio stations. Those double vinyl editions of Genesis Live are very rare and collectable. That live recording finally got an official release as part of the "Archive" box set, so the entire album can be recreated if you have "Genesis Live" and "Archive".
When material is somewhat fresh and still developing for the players there's often an intangible quality in performances that goes away through repetition, (Miles Davis seemed keenly aware of this, and supposedly fired players for rehearsing solos). The 1st Live Genesis album seems to exemplify this phenomenon in spades. This is the first Genesis album I heard and it's pretty common for people to bias towards the one that printed in the head first. For me, Seconds Out sounds less inspired. Haven't put that one on a lot, so I could be dead wrong, but I came away thinking it was rote, slick and almost formulaic by comparison.
The first live album was perfect - but not great. The second live double was great - but not perfect. But they're both fun historical artifacts worth experiencing. Peace on earth.
In my opinion, Seconds Out is the greatest live album ever recorded. It still has Steve Hackett, we get Bill, Chet, and Phil on drums. Phil is a great singer, he digs emotionally into a lot of these songs and brings an edge that Peter didn’t always get to. Don’t get me wrong, I love Peter, especially on the studio recording of Supper’s Ready, but live, it’s tough to beat Phil.
I got Foxtrot much later than Genesis Live, maybe that's the reason I prefer this version of Watcher of the Skies. To my ears the studio version lacks darkness and ambience, the vocals are too dry and up front - and funnily enough I find it a little too fast. 🤣
As you pointed out it's not as well recorded as Seconds Out but as far as live Genesis albums go it is my personal favourite of them all and one I felt should have been included in the Genesis 1970 - 1975 boxset instead of putting it in a separate boxset with a load of other live albums I am not interested in at all. I was surprised that you did not think that Nursery Cryme was not very well recorded and had a certain dislike for it. I think it's a great album and don't have any issues with the recording one bit. I also catch your drift regarding live and studio albums regarding the sound quality however there are a few decent live albums that did come out very well recorded back in the 70's and I suppose one perfect example of that would have to be Robin Trower's 1975 live album. By the way, the story that Gabriel wrote for "Get Em' Out By Friday" seemed almost like a reality a few years back where I live in which the council were doing what they call a regeneration project. They knocked down many old houses to rebuild new ones only the new ones were that small they were like doll's houses and they most likely did fit twice as many on the same building site😁.
The drum sound is great on G Live...I love the album. I also LoVE Seconds Out, the band had so much energy at this time. The 90s live albums were from the We Can't Dance tour btw😎
Hey Ian!. "Genesis Live" had a Disc 2 (i.e. a live version of "Supper's Ready"), from the same Rainbow show, which was only released to radio stations. Those double vinyl editions of Genesis Live are very rare and collectable. That live recording finally got an official release as part of the "Archive" box set, so the entire album can be recreated if you have "Genesis Live" and "Archive".
@@BrennanYoung I don’t have it but that’s killer !
Which archive box set are you referring to? The one with re-recorded vocals from Gabriel?
@@dojonane Oh yeh, I overlooked the re-recorded vocals and guitar on Supper's Ready, but otherwise it is the Rainbow show from the same time.
When material is somewhat fresh and still developing for the players there's often an intangible quality in performances that goes away through repetition, (Miles Davis seemed keenly aware of this, and supposedly fired players for rehearsing solos). The 1st Live Genesis album seems to exemplify this phenomenon in spades. This is the first Genesis album I heard and it's pretty common for people to bias towards the one that printed in the head first. For me, Seconds Out sounds less inspired. Haven't put that one on a lot, so I could be dead wrong, but I came away thinking it was rote, slick and almost formulaic by comparison.
Spot on.
Yes. It is
The first live album was perfect - but not great.
The second live double was great - but not perfect.
But they're both fun historical artifacts worth experiencing.
Peace on earth.
This one i prefer the Remixed version.
In my opinion, Seconds Out is the greatest live album ever recorded. It still has Steve Hackett, we get Bill, Chet, and Phil on drums. Phil is a great singer, he digs emotionally into a lot of these songs and brings an edge that Peter didn’t always get to.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Peter, especially on the studio recording of Supper’s Ready, but live, it’s tough to beat Phil.
I really enjoy your style of reviewing, could you do a comparison of in the court of hte crimson king to in wake of poisiden
@@emperorpalpatine6791 actually we are planning a King Crimson studio album ranking video so I think you’ll get your wish
Thanks Ian.
IMO live at the Rainbow is the best "album". They really should release it stand alone.
I would love to hear that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_Live_1973%E2%80%932007 - the bonus disc.
It's got Phil on the drums so yeah. Also all the songs in there sound better than their studio versions.
I got Foxtrot much later than Genesis Live, maybe that's the reason I prefer this version of Watcher of the Skies.
To my ears the studio version lacks darkness and ambience, the vocals are too dry and up front - and funnily enough I find it a little too fast. 🤣
As you pointed out it's not as well recorded as Seconds Out but as far as live Genesis albums go it is my personal favourite of them all and one I felt should have been included in the Genesis 1970 - 1975 boxset instead of putting it in a separate boxset with a load of other live albums I am not interested in at all.
I was surprised that you did not think that Nursery Cryme was not very well recorded and had a certain dislike for it. I think it's a great album and don't have any issues with the recording one bit.
I also catch your drift regarding live and studio albums regarding the sound quality however there are a few decent live albums that did come out very well recorded back in the 70's and I suppose one perfect example of that would have to be Robin Trower's 1975 live album.
By the way, the story that Gabriel wrote for "Get Em' Out By Friday" seemed almost like a reality a few years back where I live in which the council were doing what they call a regeneration project. They knocked down many old houses to rebuild new ones only the new ones were that small they were like doll's houses and they most likely did fit twice as many on the same building site😁.
these are real weird genesis - an alternative group playing to small audiences. what comes after 1975/77 is corporate genesis :)