I respect your opinion of the Seiko stock Jubilee bracelet but I think it is a little bit wrong headed. It's very easy to fall into disrespecting something because the 'hobby mindset' routinely disrespects it out of hand. In this case I can't jump on the SKX Jubilee hater's band wagon. Reality has shown me that the hate is not deserved. 1) Yes it is jangly like rattling nuts & bolts in a tin can when you shake it like a maraca, but once properly sized and on the wrist, it's silent. I tend to keep my SKX on my wrist so noise has never been a problem for me. If your watch bracelet is noisy, try putting it on your wrist. 2) The flexibility of the stock Jubilee bracelet is unprecedented and that is the secret to it's incredible and unparalleled comfort on the wrist. It conforms to every movement of arm, hand and wrist better that any other bracelet or strap I've experienced. I have a high-end Swiss Engineer bracelet on an Eterna and, as great as it is, I'm not sure that it matches the sad, jangly, hollow end link Jubilee from Sieko. At least in terms of comfort. 3) If the stock Jubilee bracelet lays down or folds over when the watch is set down on it's side on the table, I suggest you put the watch on your wrist. I really prefer to keep my SKX on wrist. 4) I'm a field service technician and have beat up my poor old 009 every day for 8 years by knocking it around inside of industrial equipment racks. The Jubilee hasn't stretched enough for me to hardly notice. I think maybe the claim of bracelet stretch is more urban legend than reality. 5) Many have made a big deal out of the inferiority of hollow end links. Why? In what way are they inferior? The fit on the SKX is impeccable, they look perfect and will outlast the watch and perhaps outlast the wearer of the watch. The bumper on my car is hollow, yet I don't endevor to replace it with a bumper milled from a solid stainless steel billet... 6) Finally, that Strapcode Jubilee is a thing of beauty but you're giving up the SEIKO signed clasp. Dude! You didn't even mention that. I'd sooner put on the rubber diving strap or a Nato!
Watch nuts get so carried away. Paul you are 100% correct, on the wrist the stock bracelet its totally solid....why pay more $ for not much extra? Put the money toward something else....maybe another watch?
The original strap is just the best. The big problem for me is the weight in the aftermarket straps...way too heavy. Oh, and finally, I have had my original jubilee for ten years. Never broken or fallen off
Am I the only one that loves the Seiko Jubilee yeah there's Better Built bracelets but there's nothing wrong with the stock I love the Jubilee so much I even put one on my new new Seiko 5
I much prefer the stock bracelet. Part of what makes my 7002 so wearable is how lightweight it is. I never take mine off. Only to shower. So adding extra weight to a watch that never leaves my wrist is foolish. The factory bracelet is way more durable then you think.
I’ve been wearing my 10+ year old stock jubilee on my Turtle using Uncle Seiko Z199 end links. The end links fit perfectly with the stock jubilee and it’s a very comfortable combination. The bracelet doesn’t rattle on my wrist at all.
Aside from reducing the cost in building the watch. Seiko probably have a purpose on why they put a lighter strap. Its for the wearers comfort and beside its a tool watch as much as possible it should be light in weight.
Stock bracelet is flimsy and cheap and shows that. It is uncomfortable too since it cannot carry the weight of my SKX009. I have to adjust the bracelet tighter than my other bracelets to avoid the watch hanging down with the curved bracelet. And these comments are after using the stock jubilee for ten years. Super Jubilee is so much more comfortable, feels better, and it also looks better.
I'll never understand all the hype over solid endlinks. They're a pain in the ass to put on and if either the watch or the bracelet is less than absolutely perfect, it won't fit at all. And as far as the whole pins vs screws thing goes, has anyone ever had a pin fall out? I haven't. I've had several screws fall out, though. Everybody always says "Just use loctite on the screws" but, why bother when I can just get a bracelet with pins that don't fall out? Nobody uses a hammer for pins anymore. Buy a damn pin pusher for 2 bucks like everybody else.
Watch Addiction Watch Reviews thanks for the reply. I’ve seen those. My SKX came with a Strapcode and the stock jubilee. I don’t know if I would buy the Strapcode but I definitely like it more for its heft.
there is a huge difference in terms of quality, one is solid while one is hollow , the stock bracelet can be bent inside out while the other one is really solid and doesnt move , have you had one in hand? Either way thanks for watching
What would convince me to get a super jubilee strapcode when you can get a solid 316l steel bracelet from china for $30 or less...? Now the Angus Stracode bracelet is hefty and I'll buy that for sure.
@@WatchAddictionReviews there some in ebay, solid links with hallow end link. Also straight bar solid links. So it looks like strapcode probably just gets those bracelets and changes the end link to a solid. They look nearly the same. I just wish I knew who manufactures there Angus bracelet. Anything done in China is easily accessible. There no real enforcement on copyright and everyone produces w.e they want.
Well my advice for the people with skx 013 think twice before get one. Yes it is well made the links are solid and bla bla bla but it has different shape from original stock bracelet and it makes your watch look smaller as they are because it looks wider. The clasp is huge and bulky seems very easy to open (I try the same original seiko clasp on the different bracelet and it locks much better and confident) I think to oder a small one. So this bracelet will change the whole look of the watch as for skx013
Think the original bracelets quality is fine but I don't like the weight and the feel of it. Was thinking about buying a skx but the bracelet was the only thing I didn't like. After some browsing I found out better replacement ones so might get one of those
Strapocode seem better in almost every way except the thickness at the clasp. I can't stand thick clasps. Which leaves me at an indecision for either of these bracelets. I have the J1 that came on rubber (taken off on the first day and replaced by a NATO).
You don’t show that the solid end links on the StrapCode version do not perfectly match the contours of the lugs - they stick out about 2mm past the tips of the lugs. The stock fits perfectly and looks much better on the watch. I will take perfectly contoured hollow links over poorly formed solids any day.
You literally say you've never worn the stock bracelet then proceed to talk about how much you don't like it. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. At least use the thing for a while. Also, I've tried my hardest to get one of the hollow center links to flip around while it's actually attached and it's impossible.
The original Seiko is inferior in every way but....... Its just better and more comfortable in every way then the heavier better made alternatives. Crazy I know but listen, I have had my SKX for 15 years on the original bracelet. It has been the most comfortable and tough bracelelt that i have ever owned. just purchased a new one and its just the same. Crazy, I know but just true. For me I have to say I disagree with all of your comments but hey, thats the beauty of this hobby, different strokes for different folks. Nice vlog.
Completely disagree only because you are not giving the stock bracelet respect for what it is. I respect what the strap code is but it is heavier and that is everything when it comes to comfort. The stock bracelet is attractive, light and actually well made for such a light bracelet.
Hello W.A. Yes right, the well known high machining quality by miltat... Two things to consider: For that price they should have designed the endlink to articulate on the inside, in line with the regular holes in the lugs because it is more comfortable wearing it. This comfort aspect leads to the second thing: The stechiness of the original fittet bracelet is, in my opinion a comfort feature. Comfort, that's what a jubelee bracelet is about, in my eyes! Jm2c Dani
Yes the stock jubillee bracelet is cheap and nasty feeling.....but ive worn it non stop for 5 years with super tight fitting ...dont really care cuz its cheap and easy to find anywhere .....and i dont find any stretch on the bracelet and im confused like wow this is durable!
The CENTRE END-LINK ON EACH SIDE OF THE STRAPCODE SUPER J. IS UGLY UGLY UGLY - STIFF THING STICKING OUT. I’D MUCH RATHER HAVE THE FLEXING CENTRE END-LINKS OF THE ORIGINAL SEIKO JUBILEE.
Theres too much nonsense about hollow vs solid end links. Functionally speaking they are no different, except that one is heavier and more rigid than the other. I think Seiko's original bracelet was built for purpose...light weight and comfortable due to its flex that conforms easily with the various wrists out there. Besides, I'm not worried about jumping off a cliff at risk of getting my watch snatched off my wrist by the claws of the dragon Rhaegar, where a solid end link would have kept it safe.
true , it does help a bit with the top heavy issue though, feels a bit more balanced with a solid jubilee instead of dragging left to right- but the stock bracelet is totally useable and will last a long time
Geez it's a freaking cheap seiko I've been using the cheap jingly and cheap wobbly stock for over 10 years nothing falling off ..dont understand y people spend the $$$ on "high quality s jubilee" on an affordable seiko
this stupid guy trashtalk too much about the stock jubilee, I have a 2nd hand skx009 with stock folded jubilee, and the new skx009 with the same bracelet, I never noticed a single stretch except the scratches on the clasp I notice that as the stock oem jubilee older it became hard to stretch I am not worried about test pulling my old oem jubilee to my old skx009 but I notice the spring bar on lugs is bending as I pull the bracelet
@@tonyjenkins1851 if you have an oem jubilee and you stretched it then you're the only trash person, you never use the oem jubilee in a right way, many watch enthusiast learn how to use that bracelet and never stretch it for years until they got bored of using it
I respect your opinion of the Seiko stock Jubilee bracelet but I think it is a little bit wrong headed. It's very easy to fall into disrespecting something because the 'hobby mindset' routinely disrespects it out of hand. In this case I can't jump on the SKX Jubilee hater's band wagon. Reality has shown me that the hate is not deserved.
1) Yes it is jangly like rattling nuts & bolts in a tin can when you shake it like a maraca, but once properly sized and on the wrist, it's silent. I tend to keep my SKX on my wrist so noise has never been a problem for me. If your watch bracelet is noisy, try putting it on your wrist.
2) The flexibility of the stock Jubilee bracelet is unprecedented and that is the secret to it's incredible and unparalleled comfort on the wrist. It conforms to every movement of arm, hand and wrist better that any other bracelet or strap I've experienced. I have a high-end Swiss Engineer bracelet on an Eterna and, as great as it is, I'm not sure that it matches the sad, jangly, hollow end link Jubilee from Sieko. At least in terms of comfort.
3) If the stock Jubilee bracelet lays down or folds over when the watch is set down on it's side on the table, I
suggest you put the watch on your wrist. I really prefer to keep my
SKX on wrist.
4) I'm a field service technician and have beat up my poor old 009 every day for 8 years by knocking it around inside of industrial equipment racks. The Jubilee hasn't stretched enough for me to hardly notice. I think maybe the claim of bracelet stretch is more urban legend than reality.
5) Many have made a big deal out of the inferiority of hollow end links. Why? In what way are they inferior? The fit on the SKX is impeccable, they look perfect and will outlast the watch and perhaps outlast the wearer of the watch. The bumper on my car is hollow, yet I don't endevor to replace it with a bumper milled from a solid stainless steel billet...
6) Finally, that Strapcode Jubilee is a thing of beauty but you're giving up the SEIKO signed clasp. Dude! You didn't even mention that. I'd sooner put on the rubber diving strap or a Nato!
Watch nuts get so carried away. Paul you are 100% correct, on the wrist the stock bracelet its totally solid....why pay more $ for not much extra? Put the money toward something else....maybe another watch?
You are right rather than getting that replacement I would go for maybe a nato and some other strap for the same or less money.
good ideas
Agreed.
The one it comes with is really comfortable and is not loud at all when you wear it
The original strap is just the best. The big problem for me is the weight in the aftermarket straps...way too heavy. Oh, and finally, I have had my original jubilee for ten years. Never broken or fallen off
ccw1961 good to hear my friend
Am I the only one that loves the Seiko Jubilee yeah there's Better Built bracelets but there's nothing wrong with the stock I love the Jubilee so much I even put one on my new new Seiko 5
I much prefer the stock bracelet. Part of what makes my 7002 so wearable is how lightweight it is. I never take mine off. Only to shower. So adding extra weight to a watch that never leaves my wrist is foolish. The factory bracelet is way more durable then you think.
this video is quite old, but i actually wear mine on the stock now! lol
Man, I dig the stock bracelet!
i wear the stock bracelet on my
skx009 , actually have this on a bartons rubber strap
now :-)
I’ve been wearing my 10+ year old stock jubilee on my Turtle using Uncle Seiko Z199 end links. The end links fit perfectly with the stock jubilee and it’s a very comfortable combination. The bracelet doesn’t rattle on my wrist at all.
Omg this talk about the jingly jangly Seiko bracelet is so funny. Do you really need the bracelet to stand on its own?'lmao
jibbley fonlife
I know Strapcode bracelet is much better, but I love the original ! It’s really comfortable on the wrist and it’s part of the seiko charm.
Also check out the UncleSeiko jubilee ! That’s another goodie !
Yes.
Aside from reducing the cost in building the watch. Seiko probably have a purpose on why they put a lighter strap. Its for the wearers comfort and beside its a tool watch as much as possible it should be light in weight.
to save money , in any way - why dont you think they didnt use sapphire crystals for years and charged the same as the conpetition or more
Stock bracelet is flimsy and cheap and shows that. It is uncomfortable too since it cannot carry the weight of my SKX009. I have to adjust the bracelet tighter than my other bracelets to avoid the watch hanging down with the curved bracelet. And these comments are after using the stock jubilee for ten years. Super Jubilee is so much more comfortable, feels better, and it also looks better.
true
Wow, you really messed up with this critique of the Seiko Jubilee. You just don’t get it!
Nice!! Do you know if this bracelet is compatible with seiko srpd55 watches? Thanks!!
sorry no
I'll never understand all the hype over solid endlinks. They're a pain in the ass to put on and if either the watch or the bracelet is less than absolutely perfect, it won't fit at all. And as far as the whole pins vs screws thing goes, has anyone ever had a pin fall out? I haven't. I've had several screws fall out, though. Everybody always says "Just use loctite on the screws" but, why bother when I can just get a bracelet with pins that don't fall out? Nobody uses a hammer for pins anymore. Buy a damn pin pusher for 2 bucks like everybody else.
doooooooooood
Is having a super chunky and thick clasp a good thing? I don't think so man
you can just switch it for a thinner clssp check aliexpress
I like strapcode stuff but most of your complaints aren't even applicable when wearing the watch..
true, this is a reallly old video, i dont own an skx anymore ive owned several in my life and they all had issues so insold them :)
amphibia looks good on that mesh in your intro!
I prefer the Strapcode simply because the screw in pins.
yeah, those are now available for like $40 on aliexpress
Watch Addiction Watch Reviews thanks for the reply. I’ve seen those. My SKX came with a Strapcode and the stock jubilee. I don’t know if I would buy the Strapcode but I definitely like it more for its heft.
yeah feels like a real watch once ya got the strapcode on :-)
@@WatchAddictionReviews does strapcode fit perfectly at the lugs?
OMG.. They look exactly the same. There is not anything wrong with the other bracelet and heavier isn't better. I think you reaching..
there is a huge difference in terms of quality, one is solid while one is hollow , the stock bracelet can be bent inside out while the other one is really solid and doesnt move , have you had one in hand? Either way thanks for watching
Heavier is better. It’s balances the watch. Also the old jubilee is so badly made, it pulls all the hair off your wrist
ok, so, how do you take the old bracelet off? Did I miss that part?
spring bar tool
What would convince me to get a super jubilee strapcode when you can get a solid 316l steel bracelet from china for $30 or less...? Now the Angus Stracode bracelet is hefty and I'll buy that for sure.
where do they sell end fitted jubilee skx solid bracelets for $30 , i dont care about strapcode this isnt a sponsored video - but just curious
@@WatchAddictionReviews there some in ebay, solid links with hallow end link. Also straight bar solid links. So it looks like strapcode probably just gets those bracelets and changes the end link to a solid. They look nearly the same. I just wish I knew who manufactures there Angus bracelet. Anything done in China is easily accessible. There no real enforcement on copyright and everyone produces w.e they want.
It’s the most comfortable jubilee bracelet from Seiko!
yep
Can i buy your original skx jubilee bracelet? Please
ya no la tengo
Well my advice for the people with skx 013 think twice before get one. Yes it is well made the links are solid and bla bla bla but it has different shape from original stock bracelet and it makes your watch look smaller as they are because it looks wider. The clasp is huge and bulky seems very easy to open (I try the same original seiko clasp on the different bracelet and it locks much better and confident) I think to oder a small one. So this bracelet will change the whole look of the watch as for skx013
I want to know if that bracelet super jubilee fits in seiko padi turtle???
sorry no
Why does a watch need to "stand up"?
to tell some comedy ..... Stand up comedy
Think the original bracelets quality is fine but I don't like the weight and the feel of it. Was thinking about buying a skx but the bracelet was the only thing I didn't like. After some browsing I found out better replacement ones so might get one of those
Any idea if these would fit a 22mm Mido Ocean Star with black dial?
probably not
Hi, better Super 3D Jubilee or Super jubilee for SKX007? thanks
the stabdard super jubilee is fine
Strapocode seem better in almost every way except the thickness at the clasp. I can't stand thick clasps. Which leaves me at an indecision for either of these bracelets. I have the J1 that came on rubber (taken off on the first day and replaced by a NATO).
Is it the special Jubilee or Angus Jubilee?...
just called Super Jubilee
You don’t show that the solid end links on the StrapCode version do not perfectly match the contours of the lugs - they stick out about 2mm past the tips of the lugs. The stock fits perfectly and looks much better on the watch. I will take perfectly contoured hollow links over poorly formed solids any day.
they fit fine, this was like a long time ago i dont even have that watch or bracelet
You literally say you've never worn the stock bracelet then proceed to talk about how much you don't like it. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. At least use the thing for a while.
Also, I've tried my hardest to get one of the hollow center links to flip around while it's actually attached and it's impossible.
In conclution: 1) Is heavier, 2) Clicks louder.
you got it
The original Seiko is inferior in every way but....... Its just better and more comfortable in every way then the heavier better made alternatives. Crazy I know but listen, I have had my SKX for 15 years on the original bracelet. It has been the most comfortable and tough bracelelt that i have ever owned. just purchased a new one and its just the same. Crazy, I know but just true. For me I have to say I disagree with all of your comments but hey, thats the beauty of this hobby, different strokes for different folks. Nice vlog.
Hi, quick question. Can that bracelet fit any watch? I'm concerned if it will fit my seiko sarx033. They are both 20mm lug, I'm still worry tho.
pretty sure its designed specifically for the skx
Watch Addiction Watch Reviews ok thanks !
Completely disagree only because you are not giving the stock bracelet respect for what it is. I respect what the strap code is but it is heavier and that is everything when it comes to comfort. The stock bracelet is attractive, light and actually well made for such a light bracelet.
Hello W.A.
Yes right, the well known high machining quality by miltat...
Two things to consider:
For that price they should have designed the endlink to articulate on the inside, in line with the regular holes in the lugs because it is more comfortable wearing it.
This comfort aspect leads to the second thing:
The stechiness of the original fittet bracelet is, in my opinion a comfort feature.
Comfort, that's what a jubelee bracelet is about, in my eyes!
Jm2c
Dani
they are actually 40 bucks on ebay now , miltats
Strapcode us great but imho too heavy.. I prefer the stock jubilee.. BTW u have a stock jubilee for sale
no sir , check amazon there like 30 bucks
Super is superior in every way as you noted. Quality, clasp, pins, end links, and stretch on wrist. Good job.
Couldn't agree more!
Original is better and more comfortable.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it", especially with something more expensive...
Yes the stock jubillee bracelet is cheap and nasty feeling.....but ive worn it non stop for 5 years with super tight fitting ...dont really care cuz its cheap and easy to find anywhere .....and i dont find any stretch on the bracelet and im confused like wow this is durable!
yeah its not that bad on wrist i use it sometimes
The CENTRE END-LINK ON EACH SIDE OF THE STRAPCODE SUPER J. IS UGLY UGLY UGLY - STIFF THING STICKING OUT. I’D MUCH RATHER HAVE THE FLEXING CENTRE END-LINKS OF THE ORIGINAL SEIKO JUBILEE.
AIGHT MAN
yessss love me a super job
Theres too much nonsense about hollow vs solid end links. Functionally speaking they are no different, except that one is heavier and more rigid than the other. I think Seiko's original bracelet was built for purpose...light weight and comfortable due to its flex that conforms easily with the various wrists out there. Besides, I'm not worried about jumping off a cliff at risk of getting my watch snatched off my wrist by the claws of the dragon Rhaegar, where a solid end link would have kept it safe.
true , it does help a bit with the top heavy issue though, feels a bit more balanced with a solid jubilee instead of dragging left to right- but the stock bracelet is totally useable and will last a long time
agreed
Come on u really need a super luxurious jubilee on a $300 + watch
really not super luxurious , there like $35 wholesale on alibaba lol
@@WatchAddictionReviews r they any good in quality I need one right now actually for my king turtle
low hanging fruit; regurgitating TGV-isms. bigger isn't always better, pal.
what
Geez it's a freaking cheap seiko I've been using the cheap jingly and cheap wobbly stock for over 10 years nothing falling off ..dont understand y people spend the $$$ on "high quality s jubilee" on an affordable seiko
there like 60 bucks now
@@WatchAddictionReviews I know its crazy but its not too bad for oem
aitey
I think the super jubelee is the one that coming with the watch,, you mean the angus jubilee
the super jubilee is the add on made by that asian company, skx just comes on a standard "Jubilee" style bracelet
omg , you want to change Benz s class to fiat ? :))))
lol
holy shit that OEM seiko feels like garbage
because seiko IS garbage and the SKX is a POS.
Man EVERYONE slags off seiko bracelets but the go on to say "such great value watch for the price". Jeez figure it out!
lol
this stupid guy trashtalk too much about the stock jubilee, I have a 2nd hand skx009 with stock folded jubilee, and the new skx009 with the same bracelet, I never noticed a single stretch except the scratches on the clasp I notice that as the stock oem jubilee older it became hard to stretch I am not worried about test pulling my old oem jubilee to my old skx009 but I notice the spring bar on lugs is bending as I pull the bracelet
you seem like a genuinely nice person.
Best Regards
E
rave master why you guys get so offended if an opinion 😂😂 the stock jubilee is trash anyway
@@tonyjenkins1851 if you have an oem jubilee and you stretched it then you're the only trash person, you never use the oem jubilee in a right way, many watch enthusiast learn how to use that bracelet and never stretch it for years until they got bored of using it
seiko skx junk
Afficionado Stephen you never had one in person... otherwise I can't really see your point of view.
loo
You say that because you don't own one.
Did you just call a Seiko skx junk? you must not like watches if you cant respect the skx