I used mine last night to photograph M42. I love it, so easy to mount to eyepiece and to center to phone lens. No more smartphone sliding away from EP. Very rigid. Has to be the best one on the market.
Thank you for producing this informative video and honest review. I couldn't believe how closely your experiences with cell phone holders matched my own. I too started with a simple holder, then after several years "upgraded" to the NexYZ 3-Axis Universal Smartphone Adapter. On my rigs, the NexYZ could only be used with long focal length eyepieces, and was too heavy, sloppy, and bulky. As well as being over engineered. Shortly after acquiring it, I returned to using my simple holder. I will definitely give he Move Shoot Move a close look. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching. Same here. I reviewed the NeXYZ and then went back to my old generic one. I emailed the Move Shoot Move people to ask about availability and they said it will start shipping in February. Kindof a long wait, but they said they added some "tweaks" to the prototype design.
First time I've seen your channel and that ISS pic is unbelievable! I love tech and gadgets but haven't got into astronomical photography yet. Very cool! You must be in a place without too much light pollution. Definitely subbed and will check your other vids. Thanks from New Zealand :)
Thanks for watching. That ISS pic is just one of 163 that I took during that flyover, but it's definitely the sharpest. It was a mix of preparing and extreme luck. Clear skies!
I bought the Celestron NexYZ and ended up returning it for the same reasons; too much slop in the gears and too much flex in the plastic made it essentially unusable. Love your content!
Thanks for watching! It's unfortunate about the NexYZ. The idea is a good one, but I wish more care would've gone into manufacturing. Check out the Move Shoot Move adapter. Similar price, but all metal and is rock solid.
@@AstronomyGarageSorry mate, i screwed it up. I bought the expensive Celestron 😭 Me and my son went to the fotostore and the Celestron, had a much better grip. You may all laugh at me. 😂
Zoom eyepieces are a bit tricky because they will "spin" due to the adapter being clamped to them. If you can prevent it from spinning, then yes, these will work.
This product seems almost perfect, I'm curious how it performs with a phone that has a camera in the corner. I know you mentioned how its great for your phone that has it in the center and the clampsize but wondered if you've know how well it works with another phone with a different camera location.
These units have a lot of range, so the corner camera shouldn't be an issue at all. Clear skies! They're released an even newer version, found here on Amazon: amzn.to/48PN33q
My comment is a question. Are all the contact clamping surfaces, ex. gripping the eyepiece, a rubber to metal or metal to metal grip. Does using this require a cell phone, Samsung Sky Pro 7, to focus clearly very closeup. Will a wide field eyepiece be useful, mine is a Celestron 32mm Erfle 1.25, with a total length of 85mm, get the advantage of the wide field. Other eyepieces are Or. 6mm, K. 9mm, K. 25mm, all of Japanese origin. My scope thou being an old Mead 591, has no flaking paint either inside or outside the tube and the clock drive still works fine. I've had to rebuild the spider as I can' find a replacement. And I should get the mirror re-coated too. I know that's a lot and other answers would be helpful. All this with almost hopelessly light polluted sky's. Milky Way barely visible and only if you know it's there. But there is a sky park about 15 miles away.
The adapter clamp has a thin layer of rubber, so there will be rubber in the clamping process. Any cellphone will work with this one. Just manually set the focus to infinity. I have a very detailed video for setting up the cellphone for use in these adapters, here: ruclips.net/video/CMYapWfXIeQ/видео.html
What is the average magnification suggested for planetary videos with a smartphone? I have a 5 inch refractor with 1000mm focal length.. What would be the suggested magnification in this? Also, to achieve that magnification, is it better to do it with a standalone eyepiece( if possible) or a an eyepiece( with twice the focal length) and a 2x Barlow?
The rule of thumb for magnification is 50x per inch of diameter. So for your 5 inch refractor (pretty big!), that's an ideal magnification of 250x. With a focal length of 1000mm, that means you'll reach the ideal magnification with a 4mm eyepiece. If you want to try a wide-field 4mm, check out the very affordable Astro-Tech 82 degree series of eyepieces. I have their 4mm and it works great.
@@AstronomyGarage i do have a 6mm which will give a near enough that magnification.. i also have a 9mm, and a 2x Barlow, which will reach closer to that magnification.. But a Barlow will introduce an extra piece of glass in between.. In this case, probably a 6mm would be better i guess? In theory, would a 9mm with 2x Barlow be better, or a 4mm standalone.. both of which will give the same amount of magnification almost..I feel a single eyepiece will perform better.. I have plossl eyepieces, labelled ultrawide, from svbony Although, in visual astronomy, i have seen image quality degrade with 6mm even..at a max 9mm is decent.. So I don't think i will be able to push it to 250x anyway.. I guess I will have to experiment with all three.. 6mm, 9mm, 9mm with 2x Barlow, to see which gets better.. I am a newbie to AP, let alone processing.. I have taken moon and Sun shots though..( i have a solar filter..the sunspots are pretty nice currently).. This will be my first attempt at planetary imaging...
I have the celestron and the slop is terrible. I've adjusted the tension screws in hopes of reducing the slop but I think the only way to fix it is get one of those MSM adapters. :)
Thank you for watching. I think the Celestron Nexyz has tremendous potential. They just need to iron out the manufacturing issues, especially the link from the vertical component to the main body which I think is where most of the flex is. I've really fallen in love with this MSM adapter though because of how fast I can get a rigid perpendicular setup (less than a minute). Clear skies!
@@AstronomyGarage I think the combination of metal (geared parts) and plastic parts is a weak point. Most of my slop comes from where the eyepiece holder meets up with the phone holder assembly. If it were all light weight metal, I think it'd be very solid. I think that is one of the main reasons the MSM seems much more solid.
Thank you for watching the video. They want $95 for the cheap one? Oh my gosh, don't do that. Hopefully you can find one that is affordable. Have fun. Clear skies!
@@AstronomyGarage no its the one you recommended with the blue tooth button too not to worry here in Canada we are use to everything being stupid expensive ... and to quote a great person Clear Skies!!
Excellent review! My first camera/cellphone adapter is an Orion SteadyPix Deluxe Camera Mount, it's quite functional and has room for XYZ axis! Then I bought the Celestron NexYZ hoping it will be better but, after several months of trying, came to the conclusion it has several design flaws! | mean, there's no way, even changing screws on the guide as you suggested, to make the cellphone plane to be perpendicular to the optical axis of the eyepiece. 🤦♀🤦♀🙇♂🙇♂ So, I bought a MoveShootMove adapter! I'm eagerly waiting for it to arrive! Thanks for this amazing review!
I'm glad it was so helpful. You're in for a special treat because they've made a small modification since I did this review - they've made the eyepiece clamp larger so it will accommodate most two inch eyepieces as well. In my mind, this is nearly perfect. Enjoy!
You're in luck. They stopped production to add the capability to use 2 inch eyepieces. The version you can buy now ( amzn.to/3oatBvX ) handles all size eyepieces.
I contacted the company and they said they had a problem with their initial production run and didn't ship those out. However, they said all the problems are solved and they are now shipping via their website - a new Amazon link will be posted soon (according to them).
@@AstronomyGarageokay, so you have reviewed it, but don't consider it to be a competitor for smartphone adaptors in 2023? And that is where I am saying I don't consider this 2023 video a true test of the best that is currently available if you exclude the SteadyPix Pro. Just my own opinion. I've used it for rifle scope, spotter scope, telescope, binoculars, and even stereo microscope. Yes it is heavy, but it is solid and that comes with weight when you have an adaptor that fully adjusts (and locks very solid) in X, Y and to/fro axis.
@@dl2343 I remember two unique things about the SteadyPix Pro. It barely had enough adjustment for my phone. The other issue was that the way it clamped would occasionally activate the buttons on the side of the phone. It may come down to individual phone designs and your personal experience. I found the adjustment mechanisms on this new Move Shoot Move (now called the AccuVue) adapter to be superior to all the competitors. Again, it just comes down to personal choice. Clear skies.
Regarding the two issues you had: -Phone size (and also eyepiece size you observed in your comprehensive review) are certainly a limiting factor, if you have a large phone or phone/case combo, and/or large eyepiece. No doubt there are going to be 'edge case' issues and that adaptor does in fact not have those cases covered.. valid issue to note. If these other adaptors don't have one or both limitations (phone size, eyepiece size), then they would understandably score higher on those points, although those are edge cases and only issues for individuals with those variables. - Buttons being pressed by clamping down - extremely easy to resolve by adding strategically placed thin strips of adhesive backed padding to the adaptor as spacers to straddle either side of the phone's buttons if this is an issue for a given smartphone. I didn't have enough of an issue to warrant that. I can see why it could be a sticking point for someone and could understand someone having the view that consumer modification should not be necessary. I am used to modifying, upcycling etc products to suit my own needs nowadays, especially when working with a lot of niche hobbies and such that I am into, so I don't mind maybe as much as I should. I purchased the SteadyPix Pro many years ago before all the latest adaptors came on the scene, but having used it for/with so many different optical devices to very good success, I am still quite pleased with its performance every time I have a need for it. I even use the bracket as just a holder to adapt my phone to a tripod. I chose it over other adaptors of the time because the other adptors were so obviously not as rigid and/or fully adjustable and lockable in all 3 axis. Many had only 2 axis which is fine most of the time but I was also dealing with devices with greater eye relief needs like rifle scope and stereo microscope. I understand that your video is limited to telescope, so I can understand that the to/fro axis of adjustment is not as critical. Thank you for engaging in dialogue on this. I appreciate your presentation style, clear communication, and comprehensive approach in your videos.
Thank you so much for your review!
I used mine last night to photograph M42. I love it, so easy to mount to eyepiece and to center to phone lens. No more smartphone sliding away from EP. Very rigid. Has to be the best one on the market.
Agreed. I've tried them all and so far, it's the best.
Fantastic review! I'm sold! Lol at mariachi and the sneeze outtakes 🤣
Exact video for information I was on the hunt for. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for watching! Have fun.
Thank you for producing this informative video and honest review. I couldn't believe how closely your experiences with cell phone holders matched my own. I too started with a simple holder, then after several years "upgraded" to the NexYZ 3-Axis Universal Smartphone Adapter.
On my rigs, the NexYZ could only be used with long focal length eyepieces, and was too heavy, sloppy, and bulky. As well as being over engineered. Shortly after acquiring it, I returned to using my simple holder.
I will definitely give he Move Shoot Move a close look. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching. Same here. I reviewed the NeXYZ and then went back to my old generic one. I emailed the Move Shoot Move people to ask about availability and they said it will start shipping in February. Kindof a long wait, but they said they added some "tweaks" to the prototype design.
i sold the celestron xest yz and iam now using the celestron nex-gen now
First time I've seen your channel and that ISS pic is unbelievable! I love tech and gadgets but haven't got into astronomical photography yet. Very cool! You must be in a place without too much light pollution.
Definitely subbed and will check your other vids. Thanks from New Zealand :)
Thanks for watching. That ISS pic is just one of 163 that I took during that flyover, but it's definitely the sharpest. It was a mix of preparing and extreme luck. Clear skies!
I ordered both as well but chose the Move Smooth Move one as well for the same reasons.
When you get your Move Shoot Move, you're in for a pleasant surprise. They actually improved it so it handles 2 inch eyepieces now. Have fun!
I bought the Celestron NexYZ and ended up returning it for the same reasons; too much slop in the gears and too much flex in the plastic made it essentially unusable. Love your content!
Thanks for watching! It's unfortunate about the NexYZ. The idea is a good one, but I wish more care would've gone into manufacturing. Check out the Move Shoot Move adapter. Similar price, but all metal and is rock solid.
Thanks for review. I will go buy the cheap one, and laugh of them which is buying the other two, which costs 3-4 times as much.
I used the cheap one for a few years. It will work great for you. Have fun!
@@AstronomyGarageSorry mate, i screwed it up. I bought the expensive Celestron 😭 Me and my son went to the fotostore and the Celestron, had a much better grip. You may all laugh at me. 😂
@@Peter.A-A Happy for you! Use whichever one works best for you.
Awesome comparison!
THANKS!!!!!
(Did the Move-Shoot-Move manufacturer update for the wiggle?)
It is noticeably better now.
HI )) Great channel and so well presented and informative. Can I use the Baader Mark 4 Zoom EP ?
Zoom eyepieces are a bit tricky because they will "spin" due to the adapter being clamped to them. If you can prevent it from spinning, then yes, these will work.
Which axis controls the height ?
This product seems almost perfect, I'm curious how it performs with a phone that has a camera in the corner. I know you mentioned how its great for your phone that has it in the center and the clampsize but wondered if you've know how well it works with another phone with a different camera location.
These units have a lot of range, so the corner camera shouldn't be an issue at all. Clear skies! They're released an even newer version, found here on Amazon: amzn.to/48PN33q
My comment is a question. Are all the contact clamping surfaces, ex. gripping the eyepiece, a rubber to metal or metal to metal grip. Does using this require a cell phone, Samsung Sky Pro 7, to focus clearly very closeup. Will a wide field eyepiece be useful, mine is a Celestron 32mm Erfle 1.25, with a total length of 85mm, get the advantage of the wide field. Other eyepieces are Or. 6mm, K. 9mm, K. 25mm, all of Japanese origin. My scope thou being an old Mead 591, has no flaking paint either inside or outside the tube and the clock drive still works fine. I've had to rebuild the spider as I can' find a replacement. And I should get the mirror re-coated too. I know that's a lot and other answers would be helpful. All this with almost hopelessly light polluted sky's. Milky Way barely visible and only if you know it's there. But there is a sky park about 15 miles away.
The adapter clamp has a thin layer of rubber, so there will be rubber in the clamping process. Any cellphone will work with this one. Just manually set the focus to infinity. I have a very detailed video for setting up the cellphone for use in these adapters, here: ruclips.net/video/CMYapWfXIeQ/видео.html
Are you able to get any images of Betelgeuse??
I haven't tried that yet. So far I've been focusing on planets, moon, and international space station. Clear skies!
What is the average magnification suggested for planetary videos with a smartphone?
I have a 5 inch refractor with 1000mm focal length..
What would be the suggested magnification in this?
Also, to achieve that magnification, is it better to do it with a standalone eyepiece( if possible) or a an eyepiece( with twice the focal length) and a 2x Barlow?
The rule of thumb for magnification is 50x per inch of diameter. So for your 5 inch refractor (pretty big!), that's an ideal magnification of 250x. With a focal length of 1000mm, that means you'll reach the ideal magnification with a 4mm eyepiece. If you want to try a wide-field 4mm, check out the very affordable Astro-Tech 82 degree series of eyepieces. I have their 4mm and it works great.
@@AstronomyGarage i do have a 6mm which will give a near enough that magnification.. i also have a 9mm, and a 2x Barlow, which will reach closer to that magnification..
But a Barlow will introduce an extra piece of glass in between..
In this case, probably a 6mm would be better i guess?
In theory, would a 9mm with 2x Barlow be better, or a 4mm standalone.. both of which will give the same amount of magnification almost..I feel a single eyepiece will perform better..
I have plossl eyepieces, labelled ultrawide, from svbony
Although, in visual astronomy, i have seen image quality degrade with 6mm even..at a max 9mm is decent..
So I don't think i will be able to push it to 250x anyway..
I guess I will have to experiment with all three..
6mm, 9mm, 9mm with 2x Barlow, to see which gets better..
I am a newbie to AP, let alone processing..
I have taken moon and Sun shots though..( i have a solar filter..the sunspots are pretty nice currently)..
This will be my first attempt at planetary imaging...
I have the celestron and the slop is terrible. I've adjusted the tension screws in hopes of reducing the slop but I think the only way to fix it is get one of those MSM adapters. :)
Thank you for watching. I think the Celestron Nexyz has tremendous potential. They just need to iron out the manufacturing issues, especially the link from the vertical component to the main body which I think is where most of the flex is. I've really fallen in love with this MSM adapter though because of how fast I can get a rigid perpendicular setup (less than a minute). Clear skies!
@@AstronomyGarage I think the combination of metal (geared parts) and plastic parts is a weak point. Most of my slop comes from where the eyepiece holder meets up with the phone holder assembly. If it were all light weight metal, I think it'd be very solid. I think that is one of the main reasons the MSM seems much more solid.
Very nice looking into that one I have the cheep one added to my Amazon cart sad its 95$ in Canada but well worth it sorry cant use your link
Thank you for watching the video. They want $95 for the cheap one? Oh my gosh, don't do that. Hopefully you can find one that is affordable. Have fun. Clear skies!
@@AstronomyGarage no its the one you recommended with the blue tooth button too not to worry here in Canada we are use to everything being stupid expensive ... and to quote a great person Clear Skies!!
My doubt is this adapters holder of eyepiece diameter is not enough big so that 52 or 55 mm diameter eyepiece.
Since publishing this video, they paused production to introduce a wider clamp. The opening is now 62mm.
Excellent review! My first camera/cellphone adapter is an Orion SteadyPix Deluxe Camera Mount, it's quite functional and has room for XYZ axis! Then I bought the Celestron NexYZ hoping it will be better but, after several months of trying, came to the conclusion it has several design flaws! | mean, there's no way, even changing screws on the guide as you suggested, to make the cellphone plane to be perpendicular to the optical axis of the eyepiece. 🤦♀🤦♀🙇♂🙇♂ So, I bought a MoveShootMove adapter! I'm eagerly waiting for it to arrive! Thanks for this amazing review!
I'm glad it was so helpful. You're in for a special treat because they've made a small modification since I did this review - they've made the eyepiece clamp larger so it will accommodate most two inch eyepieces as well. In my mind, this is nearly perfect. Enjoy!
@@AstronomyGarage Nice to know that! Thanks!
I think they may have missed a trick in not making it 2" compatible, maybe a larger eyepiece clamp could be offered as an extra cost alternative?
You're in luck. They stopped production to add the capability to use 2 inch eyepieces. The version you can buy now ( amzn.to/3oatBvX ) handles all size eyepieces.
@@AstronomyGarage Excellent!, I have a MSM rotator (star tracker) and its also a class item, great company.
Bummer, the Move Shoot Move adapter is no longer available on Amazon. I can't tell if they are no longer making it, or if they are just out of stock.
I contacted the company and they said they had a problem with their initial production run and didn't ship those out. However, they said all the problems are solved and they are now shipping via their website - a new Amazon link will be posted soon (according to them).
Not a true test if you don't review the Orion SteadyPix Pro
Here's my review of the Orion SteadyPix Pro: ruclips.net/video/QgXkWYj27b0/видео.html
@@AstronomyGarageokay, so you have reviewed it, but don't consider it to be a competitor for smartphone adaptors in 2023? And that is where I am saying I don't consider this 2023 video a true test of the best that is currently available if you exclude the SteadyPix Pro. Just my own opinion. I've used it for rifle scope, spotter scope, telescope, binoculars, and even stereo microscope. Yes it is heavy, but it is solid and that comes with weight when you have an adaptor that fully adjusts (and locks very solid) in X, Y and to/fro axis.
@@dl2343 I remember two unique things about the SteadyPix Pro. It barely had enough adjustment for my phone. The other issue was that the way it clamped would occasionally activate the buttons on the side of the phone. It may come down to individual phone designs and your personal experience. I found the adjustment mechanisms on this new Move Shoot Move (now called the AccuVue) adapter to be superior to all the competitors. Again, it just comes down to personal choice. Clear skies.
Regarding the two issues you had:
-Phone size (and also eyepiece size you observed in your comprehensive review) are certainly a limiting factor, if you have a large phone or phone/case combo, and/or large eyepiece. No doubt there are going to be 'edge case' issues and that adaptor does in fact not have those cases covered.. valid issue to note. If these other adaptors don't have one or both limitations (phone size, eyepiece size), then they would understandably score higher on those points, although those are edge cases and only issues for individuals with those variables.
- Buttons being pressed by clamping down - extremely easy to resolve by adding strategically placed thin strips of adhesive backed padding to the adaptor as spacers to straddle either side of the phone's buttons if this is an issue for a given smartphone. I didn't have enough of an issue to warrant that. I can see why it could be a sticking point for someone and could understand someone having the view that consumer modification should not be necessary. I am used to modifying, upcycling etc products to suit my own needs nowadays, especially when working with a lot of niche hobbies and such that I am into, so I don't mind maybe as much as I should.
I purchased the SteadyPix Pro many years ago before all the latest adaptors came on the scene, but having used it for/with so many different optical devices to very good success, I am still quite pleased with its performance every time I have a need for it. I even use the bracket as just a holder to adapt my phone to a tripod. I chose it over other adaptors of the time because the other adptors were so obviously not as rigid and/or fully adjustable and lockable in all 3 axis. Many had only 2 axis which is fine most of the time but I was also dealing with devices with greater eye relief needs like rifle scope and stereo microscope. I understand that your video is limited to telescope, so I can understand that the to/fro axis of adjustment is not as critical.
Thank you for engaging in dialogue on this. I appreciate your presentation style, clear communication, and comprehensive approach in your videos.