But this is how humans think. They mindlessly switch their expectations, then act as if they always had those. AOC had a fine rookie season. Except compared to Stroud's. Aaron Rodgers should have been The QB Of His Generation. Except Tom Brady was prettier & won more playoff games despite playing worse so now it's impossible to get fans to acknowledge that better passing stats = better QB. But people still use them to put *down* QBs they _don't_ like.
Take A QB at 3, draft a WR & OT in Rounds 2-3, Just take best available in Rounds 4-7, make a trade for an established WR1 (Brandon Aiyuk, Tee Higgins, AJ Brown)
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Nah JJ is good, he isnt as good as people may think, but honestly if I'm the Patriots, I listen to the Vikings, you could receive from them 2 First round picks this year, a 2nd and a 3rd this year and next year 1st too. At this Point you can definitely rebuild ur team.
As a lifelong Houston and Boston sports fan I hope the patriots can have a Texans like rebuild and playoff berth with this draft super excited for both teams next season
As a Pats fan I want them to draft a qb but not rush him to start right away. This is going to be a 4-5 win team with the roster they have. Lots of question marks.
I hate how the pats gave up on Mac bro looked great as a rookie and then got royaly fucked by Matt Patricia as his OC then they gave up on him to screw over another rookie QB
He was never great as a rookie he was a manager that beat a bunch of bad and injured teams and got exposed towards the last quarter of the season. Hell most of their wins were in spite of him. He’s a bad QB with 0 talent get a clue
I think the best thing, whether it’s Maye or Daniels…or they shock everyone and take like JJ from Michigan or someone else, is to have that guy sit for the season behind Jacoby Brissett to learn the system , get seasoned, and trot him out say…it’s the 4th quarter and the Pats are winning by a country mile. IE take a page from the Dolphins who had Fitzmagick and Tua but didn’t throw Tua out onto the field until he was ready And the rest of the draft should prioritize WR and OL first
Drake Maye is the man, If he is available at the 3 on Thursday it is yes or if you take him there is no other option, it would be a good way to start emulating the process of Joe Burrow and the Bengals
They dont need to pick a QB in the first round. Good QBs have gone in the 2nd round and later. Get someone to protect a QB and get someone who can catch the ball.
You are sleeping on Nathan Rouke. The guy was a superstar in the CFL. He aint mahomes but if you give that guy a shot, he will make wild plays on the regular.
@@justinc.6339 I think he is good but he isn’t the best defensive coach of all time. Just get ready yall have never had a truly bad defense in since the 90’s just a warning
They could still have Brady at QB if they didn’t let personalities get in the way but it is amazing how long that team dominated considering the people involved. Tom clearly was the leader of the movement, just look at his time with the Bucs but it is going to be a while for the Pats to be good again. They need to focus on their lines.
Seems like all the drafts in recent years have little to no hype up until draft season then everyone starts doing tricks on anyone who has ever thrown a college rep. Kinda weird honestly. I don’t see McCarthy or maye having success. And JD needs a good system for him to have success. Absolutely not what the pats want.
if they draft a qb they need to understand in general this team needs to be addressed everywhere on the roster otherwise theyre gonna have another case with mac jones though that might not be as bad as mac cause bill isnt gonna be the one drafting but still in general this team and roster is not good
I prefer trade down or MHJ draft route. I think this class has a lot of good qb prospects but outside of Caleb Williams and maybe Jayden Daniels I don't think these guys are elite prospects.
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Why? When your roster is this bad especially on offense your young qb is more likely to become a bust rather than a franchise savior. Drake Maye/JJ McCarthy will have to be Mahomes/Allen levels of good to survive. Meanwhile MHJ is one of the greatest wr prospects we've seen and is basically a lock to become a Pro Bowl/All Pro level player. Also there are tons of qbs taken outside the top 10 who have become great qbs. Look at Lamar, Dak, Brock, Kirk, Love, Hurts, Geno, Russell and Carr. All at some point were playing at a high levels.
@@JordTheeNord because drafting a WR that high with no QB to throw him the ball is stupid. And literally all of those QBs you mentioned are ringless and none of them outside of maybe Jackson aren’t elite. Carr and Dak suck btw. They can literally draft a WR in the second round it’s common sense
@@BillyBob-ti2fz If you get the star receiver it's make things easier on your young qb. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa all saw their production skyrocket after getting their star receiver. Russell aint ringless. Our very own Brady was a 6th round pick. And winning it all is a TEAM accolade. Not fair to pin that all on the qb. What they control is the offense and their offenses in their primes were scoring a ton of points.
A quarterback late in the first round like JJ McCarthy? JJ McCarthy is one of the most talked about players in his draft. It will be gone in the top 10 if not the top five.
Either way the patriots have 0 weapons lol. Not everyone can replicate a texans rebuild. Demeco ryans and slowik are great coaches to have along with weapons on offense and young defense who can play. Hopefully whoever they pick doesn't completely lose his confidence next year against stacked afc teams
@@GreenShark-hn7pk honestly that sounds extremely fun to watch tyquan be the WR1 since he would be the only receiver on the roster that could catch a pass from him.
Don’t know why people are acting like it’s QB or bust if Maye is there take him if he’s not take Marv if Marv is who everyone says he easy he easily makes our offense better (better than it would be if we take Daniels) Why draft another QB with no offense help plus I don’t rate Daniels that highly
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Did the Patriots not just ruin Mac jones development by having no weapons? Why would you do that again Marv alone helps the offense only time I say draft QB is Drake Maye cause he’s QB1 B to me
The problem is there are no good QB prospects lined up for next season. Not getting one this year means not having one the year after, either. After they make up their general plans for this year good GMs look ahead. So they may not have realized this until really recently. Having said that, both Brissett & Zappe have played decently with poor receiving corps. So I really don't know what Mayo & Co. are thinking or are capable of doing with whatever roster they end up with. That makes it hard for We The Fans to know what moves they should make. Anyone here think even with a top WR they can make the playoffs with either of these QBs? Me neither. So maybe trading down is the best move. It's what I'd do in their shoes if I knew there'd be players to fill roster holes next year, but there isn't, not at QB anyway., but only maybe.
The fact that some people are pretending like CJ should be the new standard for rookie qbs is crazy.. kid arguably had the best rookie season ever.
I would say it was the best season by a rookie without any doubt. Dude looked like a 10 year vet
Naw cam did
The Texans also got a haul of draft picks from the Deshaun Wattson trade which let them draft talent before drafting Stroud
Not only that dude went into a good situation which is important for any QB to succeed
But this is how humans think. They mindlessly switch their expectations, then act as if they always had those. AOC had a fine rookie season. Except compared to Stroud's. Aaron Rodgers should have been The QB Of His Generation. Except Tom Brady was prettier & won more playoff games despite playing worse so now it's impossible to get fans to acknowledge that better passing stats = better QB.
But people still use them to put *down* QBs they _don't_ like.
I think it is a good class, but I do not expect any of these guys to produce like CJ Stroud did in his rookie year
Pretty high bar right there, man😂
I don’t think any rookie QB will ever meet that standard. CJ is just that talented
Take A QB at 3, draft a WR & OT in Rounds 2-3, Just take best available in Rounds 4-7, make a trade for an established WR1 (Brandon Aiyuk, Tee Higgins, AJ Brown)
Honestly, trade back try to get JJ and an elite WR and a good OT and at least the most important part would be done
Aj brown was never on the market
@@natescullin6391 Titans said the same thing look what happened
@@Jasoncj099JJ isn’t good
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Nah JJ is good, he isnt as good as people may think, but honestly if I'm the Patriots, I listen to the Vikings, you could receive from them 2 First round picks this year, a 2nd and a 3rd this year and next year 1st too.
At this Point you can definitely rebuild ur team.
As a lifelong Houston and Boston sports fan I hope the patriots can have a Texans like rebuild and playoff berth with this draft super excited for both teams next season
As a Pats fan I want them to draft a qb but not rush him to start right away. This is going to be a 4-5 win team with the roster they have. Lots of question marks.
Well, here we are
I hate how the pats gave up on Mac bro looked great as a rookie and then got royaly fucked by Matt Patricia as his OC then they gave up on him to screw over another rookie QB
He was never great as a rookie he was a manager that beat a bunch of bad and injured teams and got exposed towards the last quarter of the season. Hell most of their wins were in spite of him. He’s a bad QB with 0 talent get a clue
I think the best thing, whether it’s Maye or Daniels…or they shock everyone and take like JJ from Michigan or someone else, is to have that guy sit for the season behind Jacoby Brissett to learn the system , get seasoned, and trot him out say…it’s the 4th quarter and the Pats are winning by a country mile. IE take a page from the Dolphins who had Fitzmagick and Tua but didn’t throw Tua out onto the field until he was ready
And the rest of the draft should prioritize WR and OL first
daniels is too old to sit
JJ at 3 would be a terrible pick
@@AintNoWayeDaniels will be 24 when the season ends. Aaron Rodgers didn’t become the full time starter until 25. Daniels will be fine.
@@gatienlaurol5793 rodgers wasn’t a top 3 pick who was sitting behind jacoby brissett either
mac jones did not have 75 touchdowns
Drake Maye is the man, If he is available at the 3 on Thursday it is yes or if you take him there is no other option, it would be a good way to start emulating the process of Joe Burrow and the Bengals
Since they are open to trading down, it would seem that a QB is obviously not the priority. Not going to happen. They need way more than just that.
They dont need to pick a QB in the first round. Good QBs have gone in the 2nd round and later. Get someone to protect a QB and get someone who can catch the ball.
You are sleeping on Nathan Rouke. The guy was a superstar in the CFL. He aint mahomes but if you give that guy a shot, he will make wild plays on the regular.
Him: I bought the jersey bro!
Me: LOL! 😅
They should take another Michigan qb in JJ McCarthy. Did them good the last time.
🤮
not surprised an eagles fan is trying to sabotage the patriots
My man the celtics hat and the pats jersey might be overkill and I’m from the UK
how? thetre both boston teams
“He is electric” is wild
Plz let the pats get MHJ and then MPJ in the 2nd 😭
I’m praying, although if Daniels is there you may not have a choice
Anyone who think we should get Harrison is an idiot. No point of drafting a WR with no QB
"Michael Penix on Day 2" lol
Not a lot of people talking about how your defense will fall off without belicheck
Because it won’t Mayo there lol. “Bill jr”
@@justinc.6339 I think he is good but he isn’t the best defensive coach of all time. Just get ready yall have never had a truly bad defense in since the 90’s just a warning
I mean his record without Brady speaks for Itself
Had to be Maye or Daniels
They could still have Brady at QB if they didn’t let personalities get in the way but it is amazing how long that team dominated considering the people involved. Tom clearly was the leader of the movement, just look at his time with the Bucs but it is going to be a while for the Pats to be good again. They need to focus on their lines.
Bro fr bought a mac jones jersey 😭😭
The Patriots are going to take Marvin Harrison and Tom Brady's gonna come back
Seems like all the drafts in recent years have little to no hype up until draft season then everyone starts doing tricks on anyone who has ever thrown a college rep. Kinda weird honestly. I don’t see McCarthy or maye having success. And JD needs a good system for him to have success. Absolutely not what the pats want.
if they draft a qb they need to understand in general this team needs to be addressed everywhere on the roster otherwise theyre gonna have another case with mac jones
though that might not be as bad as mac cause bill isnt gonna be the one drafting but still in general this team and roster is not good
I prefer trade down or MHJ draft route. I think this class has a lot of good qb prospects but outside of Caleb Williams and maybe Jayden Daniels I don't think these guys are elite prospects.
That would be really stupid
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Why?
When your roster is this bad especially on offense your young qb is more likely to become a bust rather than a franchise savior. Drake Maye/JJ McCarthy will have to be Mahomes/Allen levels of good to survive. Meanwhile MHJ is one of the greatest wr prospects we've seen and is basically a lock to become a Pro Bowl/All Pro level player.
Also there are tons of qbs taken outside the top 10 who have become great qbs. Look at Lamar, Dak, Brock, Kirk, Love, Hurts, Geno, Russell and Carr. All at some point were playing at a high levels.
@@JordTheeNord because drafting a WR that high with no QB to throw him the ball is stupid. And literally all of those QBs you mentioned are ringless and none of them outside of maybe Jackson aren’t elite. Carr and Dak suck btw. They can literally draft a WR in the second round it’s common sense
@@BillyBob-ti2fz If you get the star receiver it's make things easier on your young qb. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa all saw their production
skyrocket after getting their star receiver.
Russell aint ringless. Our very own Brady was a 6th round pick.
And winning it all is a TEAM accolade. Not fair to pin that all on the qb. What they control is the offense and their offenses in their primes were scoring a ton of points.
@@JordTheeNord and having a star WR means nothing without a QB all of those teams draft their QB before they went after a star WR. Get a clue man
I threw up in my mouth when I heard we got Brissett back. 🤢
Just take your quarterback and if you're worried about the other holes on your team maybe you should do a good job with the other seven picks..
Ykw, they'll take a D3 LS at pick 3, or a guard.
belichick scam artist self left but maybe
4:13
Mac Jones did not throw 75 touchdowns with the patriots😂 he scored 46
A quarterback late in the first round like JJ McCarthy? JJ McCarthy is one of the most talked about players in his draft. It will be gone in the top 10 if not the top five.
CORRECTION: Mac Jones had 46 td, 36 int, not 75 td 36 int
No wonder you liked him if you believed he was putting up those numbers
Either way the patriots have 0 weapons lol. Not everyone can replicate a texans rebuild. Demeco ryans and slowik are great coaches to have along with weapons on offense and young defense who can play. Hopefully whoever they pick doesn't completely lose his confidence next year against stacked afc teams
They should have gotten Kirk Cousins and drafted Marvin Harrison Jr
That would’ve been stupid
Penix is going in the top 15
You know what would be funny they go get Tom Brady😂
DRAFT MARVIN HARRISON JR!
Pats fan myself and mac is ass dude he had one good year out of 3 and it was his rookie season dude regressed the last 2 years
If they did draft a quarterback, who’d you think they should take
penix end of first round trade up since him in a pats jersey looks correct
@@kimyona9746no it doesnt
My hope is Daniels at 3 or if not trade back for Penix
@@kimyona9746that would be stupid penix sucks
Bo Nix!!!
New England should take JJ McCarthy!!!
Ignore the fact I'm a Vikings fan.
TAKE THE OTHER JJ PATRIOTS...TAKE HIM🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hey Pats Fans Should We Draft Drake Maye Or Jayden Daniels.?
Joe Milton
Jets fan
Jayden Daniels
@@GreenShark-hn7pk is Joe milton an okay option for the pats?
Maye and sit him.
@@GreenShark-hn7pk honestly that sounds extremely fun to watch tyquan be the WR1 since he would be the only receiver on the roster that could catch a pass from him.
Matthew 11:28-30
michael penix jr is the best quarterback in this draft
Don’t know why people are acting like it’s QB or bust if Maye is there take him if he’s not take Marv if Marv is who everyone says he easy he easily makes our offense better (better than it would be if we take Daniels) Why draft another QB with no offense help plus I don’t rate Daniels that highly
Plus Marv is clearly the best or second best player in the draft as well
@@Smoggygotdajuiceno point in drafting a WR with no QB
@@BillyBob-ti2fz Did the Patriots not just ruin Mac jones development by having no weapons? Why would you do that again Marv alone helps the offense only time I say draft QB is Drake Maye cause he’s QB1 B to me
The problem is there are no good QB prospects lined up for next season. Not getting one this year means not having one the year after, either. After they make up their general plans for this year good GMs look ahead. So they may not have realized this until really recently.
Having said that, both Brissett & Zappe have played decently with poor receiving corps. So I really don't know what Mayo & Co. are thinking or are capable of doing with whatever roster they end up with. That makes it hard for We The Fans to know what moves they should make.
Anyone here think even with a top WR they can make the playoffs with either of these QBs? Me neither. So maybe trading down is the best move.
It's what I'd do in their shoes if I knew there'd be players to fill roster holes next year, but there isn't, not at QB anyway., but only maybe.
@@SmoggygotdajuiceMac jones is a terrible QB
Stop looking for a quick fix in the draft
Vikings on top
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If the Pats end up trading the 3rd overall pick, I kinda wish it would be with the Vikings for Justin Jefferson.
The compensation would be absurd lol won’t happen
@@XclusiveCloset-th3ij I know, just wishful thinking bro.
Important?? Um okay