As a Building Engineer here in the UK I needed a good reasonably priced basic tool to get me started as set up on my own so no big budgets, and I’m not a thermographer I just need a tool to help guide me as to what is causing a particular issue, so video was very helpful many thanks.
Dude I can't believe it took me so long to find your Channel. What You cover in your videos is exactly the information I've been looking for. Thank you!!!!!
@Home Performance Thanks to your video, I made the decision to buy the flir one for my phone and the water moisture detector and I found my copper pipe leak in my home that was wasting 0.2gpm every hour and inside my wall. I cut it open, fixed the leak properly, closed the wall, refinished the wall. NO MORE LEAK!!! Saved TONS of money doing this instead of calling a plumber that was going to charge me $3000 dollars to get the job done.
Thank you for your comparison video! We are moving into a 20 year old home next month and I plan to make several changes to upgrade the efficiency. I'm looking at going with a new roof, removing the existing fiberglass insulation in order to apply foam around the drywall seems, use a mixture of cellulose insulation and rockwall insulation, new windows, and finally replace the original HVAC equipment and ducts. Being in Houston, I want the lowest electricity bills possible since its hot 8 months out of the year. I've read a lot of negative reviews about the FLIR iOS attachment having the battery go bad after a few months. I think for my situation, I'll probably buy the FLIR iOS Pro attachment with slightly higher specs to do some before/after comparisons, and then list it for sale. I think with equipment like this, trying to rent it several times wouldn't be worth it since I'm sure there is a bit of a learning curve when first trying it out. Thank you for taking the time to do this demonstration/comparison! I appreciate you.
I have just been using a Fluke TIR, and found that it was hard to get a wide enough view in smaller rooms, so I'm amazed that a $25,000 camera can't cope better! Really useful review of such different products.
Great review! I would love to see a side-by-side comparison of image quality from all of these cameras in a variety of scenes. An "ultimate flir shootout" review would be awesome.
Friend, this is the best video comparison. i need an ir camera and never used one. your image of six cams and price told me quickly what i needed to know and then the rest gave me the detail. great job. many thanks.
Just as an FYI - I've settled on the TOPDON TCO01. It's in the right price range ($250ish) and has 256x192 resolution. Your video helped set my expectations for price/performance. Even though it's 4 years ago, I have a good understanding of what I should pay - and the TC001 looks like a bargain.
I’ve had my FLIR C2 for over a year. Take the FLIR course on their website or RUclips and learn how to properly calibrate ALL the settings! Amazing piece of equipment!
Something you can add to the arsenal... A Flir E4 (easily purchased for $850) can be "updated" to the exact specs of the E8 ($2700)... 80x60 --> 320x240. The modification has been around for 5 years and still works on new units. Not recommended for a pro, but if you're a home user and want a very powerful camera, you can't beat the price/pixel.
Thank you for the great video but there is a correction that has to be made: the Israeli-made Thermapp has always had a manual focus feature (I've purchased mine 8 years ago) and it was worth a little over a half of the price you mentioned in your review (last time I checked a year ago, you could buy the pro version for under $1200). And they give options to customize it. Thank you!
Thank you for your very clear explaination about thermal photography by using different kind of equipment.💪 It helps me a lot to choose the correct camera for my profession as service engineer HVAC.
I love this guy.. I had to stop in the middle of watching this, and express that I've been watching his videos for a couple of years now, and wanted to say that he is by far the one of the best (Top Five) person that I've seen simplifying information, and explain it so simple that a dag could understand it... It's a natural to him..all of his other videos are the same.
Thanks so much for taking the time to review these thermal imagine devices. This is absolutely fascinating to me for a number of reasons. 1: (and the most important)...I have a leak in my "low-slope" roof in Sarasota Florida. I'm definitely in need of a complete new roof. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to afford one unless I win the lottery - or sell the home "as-is" and take a beating on my asking price. I would really, REALLY like to find the source of the leak/leaks and patch them (until I win the lottery) LOL. To date, I've used 3 gallons of Henry's wet-patch and the roof is STILL leaking. It's driving me insane as I've patched every area with cracks and even some areas that are not cracked, just suspect areas that seemed logical based on the slight pitch of my roof. I won't presume to pester you with the hundreds of questions I have - just one. Which of these models would be the most likely to detect the source of my leak, or leaks? Any insight you could lend would be GREATLY appreciated. Danny.
I have an even better idea- hire a local pro who owns an expensive camera to pinpoint the leak. Get in touch through my website if you need a referral nearby.
That thought had crossed my mind - however, a friend just hired someone to do just that exact thing to his father-in-laws house and he was charged $350.00. I'd rather spend the money on a unit and then it's mine to do as I wish - or even charge someone else $$ to detect a leak - unless of course, the unit I need is one of the more pricey ones?
The more experienced and trained the user AND the more fine-tuned the camera, the better. Esp when you’re looking for something specific. But if you want to try something cheap and invest more later if you have to, start with the FLIR One.
Very helpful, Corbett! Seeing images back to back is really useful. On a production note, I love your background, it looks like the tool shed is coming along well, and the translucent roofing gives nice light. Not unlike you, I bought an iPhone SE so I could keep using my Flir One. I LOVE that thing! So nice that you can jam it in your pocket and head off into an attic or crawlspace without hurting it. Too bad the new models don't do that. If you don't have an IR camera and have ANY use at all for one, pop for a Flir One.
Hey, I love the quote about "The best camera is the one you have with you" because I know that quote well- it is by famous photographer Chase Jarvis, who is a him, not a her.
Seek Thermal Compact Pro has 320x240 thermal sensor, and the newest version is 15hz model LQ-aaax I’m sure I’m also missing some additional information but this device works off your phone also and has been a great addition to my arsenal. Goes for around 500.00 US dollars.
Hello there, excellent video! I bought my thermal cam in late 2011, before any of the smart phone thermal connectors existed, that are now all the rage. I love my Old School FLIR i3! On the temperature spectrum from lowest to highest, it has a feature where you can LOCK a certain range, and I often Lock it on a cold night at -40 F-100 F, and just like you said, it is like total night vision and the resolution becomes almost like visible eyes except you still see in the dark, and you see the heat! It also has a built in lens cap! You can change the emmissivity, and reflection temperature, etc. It is simple, has the removable SD card, rechargeable battery, button trigger to take a picture, the 3 original palette selections of Gray and White (Clearer Resolution), Iron-the orange and purple (Clear Resolution Balanced with More Sensitivity of Detail), and Rainbow (It may not look as CLEAR, but boy because of the color spectrum, anything sticks out like a sore thumb!) It does not have the digital camera overlap, so it is all IR in its sensors, however, because it has that lock mode on the range, if you take the average temperature of the surroundings as a sort of baseline, lets say for example 71 F, I could keep it unlocked and the ranges would change as I move the camera, but I could lock it lets say from 61-81 or 51-91 or even 65-75. The Larger the gap of the range that is locked, the larger the spectrum it detects and things are seen more clearer, to the point where the graininess or glossiness subsides to where it appears as if it was overlapped with a visible digital cam anyway. The shorter the gap, the SENSITIVITY is much noticeable, but the VISIBLE Clarity-Resolution-Wise is not as much, but you are able to find even the smallest temp. changes, moisture, heat leaks, cold spots, etc. SO IN A WAY, my Flir i3, if taken advantage of some of its options, becomes useful in any spectrum range I may want!
The key component about purchasing a camera is knowledge about thermography. Take a level one class, then apply that knowledge to your profession and business plan, then look for the applicable camera. My moto is buy the camera that you and your competition can't afford, then sell your services!
I'm buying a "cheap" $400 Chinese thermal imager. It's my first thermal camera. I totally plan to outgrow it and buy an entry level pro-level tool in the $1000 to $2000 range (probably a Flir) once I've learned everything the $400 camera has to offer so I can know what I want and what to look for in the next camera.
Several of my contractor friends have bought Chinese thermal imagers like the UNI-T UTi260B, and are so happy with them they are no longer planning to move up to an expensive FLIR. I'm planning to do the same thing myself; not everything from China is junk, far from it.
All true. Mostly I have my $500 FLIR but the 30k one is nice at times. Plus the $500 one I don't mind handing to homeowners and they can do their own "testing", makes it pretty ez since the cam and the homeowner sells/sells themselves jobs and the homeowner does all the "testing" for me. Depending on the season I hear a lot of " oh man, look at that waste of energy" staring at the exterior or interior walls/windows and then I lead them or they lead themselves to the ductwork which I usually hear "oh shit, I'm cooing/heating the attic more than my house!" .
Have to point out that chameleons are reptiles, which are cold-blooded as far as I know. In that case, it won’t be any warmer than the tree, so none of these will work.
Excellent video thanks . I'm retired and had done IR scans mainly electrical and mechanical systems going back 40+ years I'm looking for something to check out rentals mostly preventative maintenance. I'm not sure if you work much around electrical but it's a fantastic tool to avoid potential fires. It's actually required on commercial and industrial properties.
@@HomePerformance our first camera was a Hughes probeye.i actually was given it when I retired along with all my tools.i donated it .not too bad weight wise.its virtually the same as the bomb sight howard hughes built for the military in wwii.some really old tech. The new stuff is no comparison. Its fantastic there are still limitations though.
Great video. Thumbs up. I have a few questions that maybe you can answer. Which cameras are recommended for the following scenarios? I'm looking to purchase just one camera that hopefully does all these scenarios: 1. energy audit - finding doors, windows, and ceiling areas that are leaking energy and need more insulation. 2. moisture and mildew damage in walls - had water flooding in the basement. Despite most of the drywall being removed, not all was. I noticed mildew/mold in some areas. Can a camera show me how high, on the wall, mildew actually might still exist? (and If more drywall needs removing). 3. locating unwanted attic/crawlspaces wildlife (squirrels, raccoons, opossums) . I watched a few youtube videos about pest removal. Getting the WHOLE LITTER is important. The last thing you want is to remove a mother and not find/remove ALL of her litter of offspring. IR cameras would be beneficial, I would think, in locating wildlife in one's own attic/crawlspace. 3a. I assumed an extra telephoto lens might be needed if the attic is large. 4. Can you recommend any INEXPENSIVE self-study courses that have a valid INDUSTRY certification? All I have found were LIVE courses costing like $2K and up, with certification provided by the vendor themselves.
Sounds like you're getting ready to spend at least $3K on a camera, Fran. The camera can only show you areas that are still drying, not areas that mildew has attacked before. Wildlife, sure, if they're out in the open (and not nested under insulation in your attic, which is more likely). And last, there is no industry cert for IR, unfortunately- they're all given out by the training providers themselves. Try infraspection.com/ for an online option.
I'm looking for a Flur camera under $2,000 preferably that is suitable for monitoring or evaluating hotspots on printed circuit boards with many small components close together.
I have the bottom mount flir one. I like it. Main complaint is it doesn't pull power from the phone. The battery is never charged when I need it. I don't use it often. I wouldn't mind an affordable xray tool. I often have to secure to concrete. Can't tell what's under.
I think thermapp Th also has the software that is easy to work with. I own one of them and the resolution and field of view is really good. But if we are going for moisture measurement. The thermapp pro will be the most suitable which is not shown in this video. 0.03degree celcius sensitivity
Greetings from 2021! Thanks for the video. Looks like I'll be going with a Flir One Pro. Also, what kind of North face jacket is that? It looks awesome. Thanks.
Good job on video: Vid made simple: The speaker states that the best camera depends on the job. For example, while the speaker states that he would only take the FLIR T 660, the $25,000 camera, for a large commercial building, he also states that this camera was not ideal for apartment scans, which were the focus of his job that week. Here is a summary of the pros and cons of each camera: ● FLIR One ○ Pros: Inexpensive ($250 or $400 for the Pro version); portable because it is attached to a phone; can have the software updated endlessly. ○ Cons: Doesn't have as many features as some of the more expensive cameras. ● FLIR C2 ○ Pros: Durable and able to be used independently of a cell phone, making it well-suited to be given to clients; relatively inexpensive ($700). ○ Cons: Does not have as many features as some of the more expensive cameras. ● FLIR MR160 ○ Pros: Is both an infrared imager and a moisture meter; relatively inexpensive ($700). ○ Cons: Not very good as an infrared imager. ● Therm-App ○ Pros: Has night vision and live video streaming capabilities; relatively inexpensive ($700). ○ Cons: Only works with Android. ● Fluke TIR 110 ○ Pros: Good resolution and size; reporting software is excellent for creating reports; long battery life. ○ Cons: Costs $5,000. ● FLIR T 660 ○ Pros: High quality images; can take videos; has both manual and autofocus. ○ Cons: Costs $25,000; narrow field of view; takes 30 seconds to boot up. The speaker ultimately concludes that if he could only buy one camera, he would buy a $5,000 imager with a good field of view that records easily onto an SD card and has good reporting software. He states that this is because he likes to be able to create reports with 9 images per page. However, he does not explicitly state which of the cameras he reviewed meets all of these criteria.
Like the review. First question; just what is it the you do? Building inspector? Second, you mentioned that the Fluke tir 110 is the “one” to have and your favorite...it’s been discounted. They don’t make it anymore. So what is the replacement now? Thanks for making a great video comparison.
Hi Jeff- I’m a home performance consultant by trade. Hope you watch more from our channel and see. Since Fluke stopped making that unit, look for one (any brand) that meets the same profile or better, for less $$.
Interesting q- I haven’t tried it, but theoretically yes, any of these could detect it if you get close enough and conditions are right. Don’t think it would save you any time vs. a leak detector tho.
Great presentation. Of all the products you demonstrated which would be the top 3 most effective to determine if there is moisture beneath a flat roof when scanning from top? Please advise and thank you for sharing.
Pros who perform roof inspections generally are charging a higher price, and therefore generally carry more expensive equipment. I’d talk with United Infrared or InfraSpection Institute.
Wow, deep question- I’m not sure any of these would integrate with a helpful third party software, but try FLIR first. They sell sensors directly to camera fabricators, I believe.
Be thankful you have a odd job. A job like mines is all performance results. There's not much need to open it up in macro terms -- these devices I've not seen on a huge consumer scale.
Hm, hadn’t ever heard of that one- I suppose I’d try the inexpensive end of the scale, since the expensive ones are for when you need max info with quick turnaround from a distance- up close and with lots of time, any of these should work if IR will work at all.
Which camera works best to find a ghost That’s the only reason why I’m watching this Sorry to break your heart But which camera is best to find a ghost
3:23 not quite, importen to point out that certainly not all Flir have MSX, the hole midrange section do not have it, like TG130 and TG165 and newest TG167 with wifi... if you want MSX outline tech, you need the small pocket ones, or jump to the E series and above.(at least my understanding) but on the other hand, Im only a rookie, have just purchased my first cam after checking the market and alternatives for weeks. Purchased an new 240x320 (76.800) sensor IR-cam for 250 euro incl. shipping to Scandinavia.(been playing with it these last days and also put up some videos of our cat and some video with distance think the result is deent for the price and the sensor. Its adjustable but will put a few more bucks out there and get me some IR lenses to make me an DIY makro feature.(but sofare im blown away with the possiblelities, very fascinating)
So random question, after the UFO hearings recently I did some research on some of the topics brought up and they were saying the UAP response agencies have been capturing UAP a lot on infrared cameras what would you recommend if I'm hunting aliens?
What equipment do you suggest to use for measurement of humidity in walls due to dampness in it. and what camera (visually) can tell you best when a walls is wet or dry?
Great review! I am a research conducting wildlife surveys in canopy of the Amazon, and am hoping to use something like the FLIR one to spot sloths and other arboreal species at night (would love thermapp but don't have that budget). Would this work for this purpose? I am wondering at what distance the flir one would be able to detect thermal radiation, as some of those amazonian trees are pretty tall. I would only need to spot animals in the darkness, which could then be identified with a good flashlight - I would only need the thermal camera to notice the animals under the cover of darkness. Thanks!
Hmm- at night, you won’t be relying on the visual light MSX image enhancement, which is a big part of making the lower-end cameras look good. Honestly, spend the $200 and find out- what you might need to really see a detailed, in-focus sloth is an expensive cam.
How do you like the Thermapp? I'm considering purchasing it and wanted to see how you feel it compares to the rest of your ir cameras. I'm a passive house architect and want to check the performance of my passive house buildings and show clients how I can improve their existing homes.
For an architect, I’d say it’s a terrific tool. Not as powerful as the $5k range, but you don’t need that. Recommend you call TruTech and ask about the latest features they’ve got on it- mine is a few years old.
Home Performance Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep it on my list of tools to purchase. It would be great if you did a video about the tools to have in the home performance professional's toolbag. I've been building up my kit with tools like a moisture meter, anemometer, laser measure, super bright flashlight, and plan on adding a fast sensing temp and humidity meter as well.
I would greatly appreciate you helping out you showed a flare one that fits into a case like Mobic case u stated it’s not a camera Hooks in to the bottom of the phone but a case I can find nothing on the website for this also spoke with them and I thought I was from Mars Did not know when I was talking about please advise
I use a Seek Sureshot Pro on my home inspections and energy assessments. I've gone through numerous from a phone attached to Testo. I'm very happy with the Seek Sureshot for its slim pocket size, resolution, and price. Not a fan of moisture meters. Moisture meters do not detect moisture! The inexperience will get false positives.
You are awesome..now I narrowed down the tool I need. Now do you teach or have a YT Video showing how to use any of these equipment tool? Like the 5k fluke tir110 ?. 🙃
Have you tried the FLIR camera that is in the CAT phone s62? I have been looking into building my own house, and with an engineering background all of this building science that is starting to become more popular is very interesting to me, so I thought having an IR camera might be useful while under construction. Since I need a new phone anyway this phone piqued my interest, but I'm not sure how good the FLIR Lepton sensor in it really is, and since the rest of the phone is kind of dated I don't want to get it just for that camera only to find out it isn't very good.
Only one of the top guys in the country- Michael Dunseith at Green Jobs Training Center. Very NYC, but basically a teddy bear with lots of tools and experience.
Great instructional video…thanks for making it. Question…I want to assemble an array of bright ir emitting LEDs and visualize them in the most cost effective manner. The LEDs will be mounted on a board and they’ll be placed 1” apart and they array will be 12” x 12” for a total of 144 LEDs. Will the $250 device that attaches to the cell phone be sufficient for my application, I.e., resolving all 144 LEDs. Thanks.
@@HomePerformance Thanks for getting back. I plan to use IR LEDs for a clock design and I plan to view from no more than 2 feet away. Just wasn't sure if the camera would have the resolution needed to see all 144 LEDs as well as the field of view.
I didn't quite get why you said you don't update the iOS on the iPhone of the first cam. Would people who have updated their phones no be able to use the first one?
Excellent video; 18 minutes to learn 6 products and saved me at least two days' work. Thank you...
So glad to have helped you, Robert
Or traveling far to a building trade show and spending hours with each company's sales rep.
As a Building Engineer here in the UK I needed a good reasonably priced basic tool to get me started as set up on my own so no big budgets, and I’m not a thermographer I just need a tool to help guide me as to what is causing a particular issue, so video was very helpful many thanks.
So glad to have helped you, Rob- thanks for the feedback.
Vevor SC240M is really good (-4-1022f) for $300-$320. Somethin to look into
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Dude I can't believe it took me so long to find your Channel. What You cover in your videos is exactly the information I've been looking for. Thank you!!!!!
Hell yeah destiny
@Home Performance
Thanks to your video, I made the decision to buy the flir one for my phone and the water moisture detector and I found my copper pipe leak in my home that was wasting 0.2gpm every hour and inside my wall.
I cut it open, fixed the leak properly, closed the wall, refinished the wall. NO MORE LEAK!!!
Saved TONS of money doing this instead of calling a plumber that was going to charge me $3000 dollars to get the job done.
I LOVE THIS. That’s why I make videos, my friend! Good work!!!
Thank you for your comparison video! We are moving into a 20 year old home next month and I plan to make several changes to upgrade the efficiency. I'm looking at going with a new roof, removing the existing fiberglass insulation in order to apply foam around the drywall seems, use a mixture of cellulose insulation and rockwall insulation, new windows, and finally replace the original HVAC equipment and ducts. Being in Houston, I want the lowest electricity bills possible since its hot 8 months out of the year.
I've read a lot of negative reviews about the FLIR iOS attachment having the battery go bad after a few months. I think for my situation, I'll probably buy the FLIR iOS Pro attachment with slightly higher specs to do some before/after comparisons, and then list it for sale. I think with equipment like this, trying to rent it several times wouldn't be worth it since I'm sure there is a bit of a learning curve when first trying it out.
Thank you for taking the time to do this demonstration/comparison! I appreciate you.
I have just been using a Fluke TIR, and found that it was hard to get a wide enough view in smaller rooms, so I'm amazed that a $25,000 camera can't cope better! Really useful review of such different products.
Wonderful, glad this helped you Mike
Great review! I would love to see a side-by-side comparison of image quality from all of these cameras in a variety of scenes. An "ultimate flir shootout" review would be awesome.
Thanks- in case it was unclear, the first few shots in this vid are exactly what you’re looking for
Friend, this is the best video comparison. i need an ir camera and never used one. your image of six cams and price told me quickly what i needed to know and then the rest gave me the detail. great job. many thanks.
Glad to hear, Gregory
Just as an FYI - I've settled on the TOPDON TCO01. It's in the right price range ($250ish) and has 256x192 resolution. Your video helped set my expectations for price/performance. Even though it's 4 years ago, I have a good understanding of what I should pay - and the TC001 looks like a bargain.
I’ve had my FLIR C2 for over a year. Take the FLIR course on their website or RUclips and learn how to properly calibrate ALL the settings! Amazing piece of equipment!
Just wow! You are well spoken and clearly know what you're talking about! Great info.
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Something you can add to the arsenal... A Flir E4 (easily purchased for $850) can be "updated" to the exact specs of the E8 ($2700)... 80x60 --> 320x240. The modification has been around for 5 years and still works on new units. Not recommended for a pro, but if you're a home user and want a very powerful camera, you can't beat the price/pixel.
Thanks Seth
Very nice comparision. Just bought a Flir One, did not even think about water detection (probably not a thing for Flir One, but still).
Awesome! You saved hours of searching and guessing for me))))
Glad to have helped you, Kayla!
agree with the other comments.. you saved me so much time comparing 10s of products to understand what I really need.
Great to see various cameras and how I wish to operate all of them
Do it, you'll like it
Thank you for the great video but there is a correction that has to be made: the Israeli-made Thermapp has always had a manual focus feature (I've purchased mine 8 years ago) and it was worth a little over a half of the price you mentioned in your review (last time I checked a year ago, you could buy the pro version for under $1200). And they give options to customize it. Thank you!
Thanks for the correction, my friend
FANTASTIK review!!! One of the most informative I have ever seen!!!
Thank you!!
Thanks a lot, Carl!
Thank you for your very clear explaination about thermal photography by using different kind of equipment.💪 It helps me a lot to choose the correct camera for my profession as service engineer HVAC.
Excellent, keyboardman! Happy testing.
I love this guy.. I had to stop in the middle of watching this, and express that I've been watching his videos for a couple of years now, and wanted to say that he is by far the one of the best (Top Five) person that I've seen simplifying information, and explain it so simple that a dag could understand it... It's a natural to him..all of his other videos are the same.
Thanks so much for the compliment, Zachary! You made my day!
Thanks so much for taking the time to review these thermal imagine devices. This is absolutely fascinating to me for a number of reasons. 1: (and the most important)...I have a leak in my "low-slope" roof in Sarasota Florida. I'm definitely in need of a complete new roof. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to afford one unless I win the lottery - or sell the home "as-is" and take a beating on my asking price. I would really, REALLY like to find the source of the leak/leaks and patch them (until I win the lottery) LOL. To date, I've used 3 gallons of Henry's wet-patch and the roof is STILL leaking. It's driving me insane as I've patched every area with cracks and even some areas that are not cracked, just suspect areas that seemed logical based on the slight pitch of my roof. I won't presume to pester you with the hundreds of questions I have - just one. Which of these models would be the most likely to detect the source of my leak, or leaks? Any insight you could lend would be GREATLY appreciated.
Danny.
I have an even better idea- hire a local pro who owns an expensive camera to pinpoint the leak. Get in touch through my website if you need a referral nearby.
That thought had crossed my mind - however, a friend just hired someone to do just that exact thing to his father-in-laws house and he was charged $350.00. I'd rather spend the money on a unit and then it's mine to do as I wish - or even charge someone else $$ to detect a leak - unless of course, the unit I need is one of the more pricey ones?
The more experienced and trained the user AND the more fine-tuned the camera, the better. Esp when you’re looking for something specific. But if you want to try something cheap and invest more later if you have to, start with the FLIR One.
Thanks much, HP!
That was 18 minutes well spent. Many thanks.
You are very welcome my man
Yea, I don't have $25,000
I guess I'll go for the FLIR One.
Very helpful, Corbett! Seeing images back to back is really useful. On a production note, I love your background, it looks like the tool shed is coming along well, and the translucent roofing gives nice light.
Not unlike you, I bought an iPhone SE so I could keep using my Flir One. I LOVE that thing! So nice that you can jam it in your pocket and head off into an attic or crawlspace without hurting it. Too bad the new models don't do that. If you don't have an IR camera and have ANY use at all for one, pop for a Flir One.
Thanks Nate!
Hey, I love the quote about "The best camera is the one you have with you" because I know that quote well- it is by famous photographer Chase Jarvis, who is a him, not a her.
Nice- I thought it was Annie Liebowitz
Seek Thermal Compact Pro has 320x240 thermal sensor, and the newest version is 15hz model LQ-aaax I’m sure I’m also missing some additional information but this device works off your phone also and has been a great addition to my arsenal. Goes for around 500.00 US dollars.
Thanks Brian
Hello there, excellent video! I bought my thermal cam in late 2011, before any of the smart phone thermal connectors existed, that are now all the rage. I love my Old School FLIR i3! On the temperature spectrum from lowest to highest, it has a feature where you can LOCK a certain range, and I often Lock it on a cold night at -40 F-100 F, and just like you said, it is like total night vision and the resolution becomes almost like visible eyes except you still see in the dark, and you see the heat! It also has a built in lens cap! You can change the emmissivity, and reflection temperature, etc. It is simple, has the removable SD card, rechargeable battery, button trigger to take a picture, the 3 original palette selections of Gray and White (Clearer Resolution), Iron-the orange and purple (Clear Resolution Balanced with More Sensitivity of Detail), and Rainbow (It may not look as CLEAR, but boy because of the color spectrum, anything sticks out like a sore thumb!) It does not have the digital camera overlap, so it is all IR in its sensors, however, because it has that lock mode on the range, if you take the average temperature of the surroundings as a sort of baseline, lets say for example 71 F, I could keep it unlocked and the ranges would change as I move the camera, but I could lock it lets say from 61-81 or 51-91 or even 65-75. The Larger the gap of the range that is locked, the larger the spectrum it detects and things are seen more clearer, to the point where the graininess or glossiness subsides to where it appears as if it was overlapped with a visible digital cam anyway. The shorter the gap, the SENSITIVITY is much noticeable, but the VISIBLE Clarity-Resolution-Wise is not as much, but you are able to find even the smallest temp. changes, moisture, heat leaks, cold spots, etc. SO IN A WAY, my Flir i3, if taken advantage of some of its options, becomes useful in any spectrum range I may want!
Keep it up Andy
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PIPE LEAK THANKS
VERY helpful video! Thank you for taking the time to make it.
Hey, thanks for the appreciation Michael!
The key component about purchasing a camera is knowledge about thermography. Take a level one class, then apply that
knowledge to your profession and business plan, then look for the applicable camera. My moto is buy the camera that you and your competition can't afford, then sell your services!
Knowledge is power
which cost about 200 bucks :)
You get what you pay for
I'm buying a "cheap" $400 Chinese thermal imager. It's my first thermal camera. I totally plan to outgrow it and buy an entry level pro-level tool in the $1000 to $2000 range (probably a Flir) once I've learned everything the $400 camera has to offer so I can know what I want and what to look for in the next camera.
That’s a good way to to it imho, Steve
Several of my contractor friends have bought Chinese thermal imagers like the UNI-T UTi260B, and are so happy with them they are no longer planning to move up to an expensive FLIR. I'm planning to do the same thing myself; not everything from China is junk, far from it.
Hikmicro is my current preference
Great review video! How about the infiray thermal product?
Sorry Emily, have not had access to one. I hear they’re pretty solid, but again, the reporting software is perhaps the most important feature imho.
All true. Mostly I have my $500 FLIR but the 30k one is nice at times. Plus the $500 one I don't mind handing to homeowners and they can do their own "testing", makes it pretty ez since the cam and the homeowner sells/sells themselves jobs and the homeowner does all the "testing" for me. Depending on the season I hear a lot of " oh man, look at that waste of energy" staring at the exterior or interior walls/windows and then I lead them or they lead themselves to the ductwork which I usually hear "oh shit, I'm cooing/heating the attic more than my house!" .
Nice
trying to find a chameleon in a tree... what one do i need lol
Have to point out that chameleons are reptiles, which are cold-blooded as far as I know. In that case, it won’t be any warmer than the tree, so none of these will work.
Like always. Good content. Thanks!
Thanks Miguel!
Even after six years there is a plenty of excellent information about these products.
Thanks for saying so!
Excellent video thanks . I'm retired and had done IR scans mainly electrical and mechanical systems going back 40+ years I'm looking for something to check out rentals mostly preventative maintenance. I'm not sure if you work much around electrical but it's a fantastic tool to avoid potential fires. It's actually required on commercial and industrial properties.
I bet 40 year old IR tech was pretty hefty
@@HomePerformance our first camera was a Hughes probeye.i actually was given it when I retired along with all my tools.i donated it .not too bad weight wise.its virtually the same as the bomb sight howard hughes built for the military in wwii.some really old tech. The new stuff is no comparison. Its fantastic there are still limitations though.
Great video. Thumbs up.
I have a few questions that maybe you can answer.
Which cameras are recommended for the following scenarios?
I'm looking to purchase just one camera that hopefully does all these scenarios:
1. energy audit - finding doors, windows, and ceiling areas that are leaking energy and need more insulation.
2. moisture and mildew damage in walls - had water flooding in the basement. Despite most of the drywall being removed, not all was. I noticed mildew/mold in some areas.
Can a camera show me how high, on the wall, mildew actually might still exist? (and If more drywall needs removing).
3. locating unwanted attic/crawlspaces wildlife (squirrels, raccoons, opossums) .
I watched a few youtube videos about pest removal. Getting the WHOLE LITTER is important.
The last thing you want is to remove a mother and not find/remove ALL of her litter of offspring.
IR cameras would be beneficial, I would think, in locating wildlife in one's own attic/crawlspace.
3a. I assumed an extra telephoto lens might be needed if the attic is large.
4. Can you recommend any INEXPENSIVE self-study courses that have a valid INDUSTRY certification?
All I have found were LIVE courses costing like $2K and up, with certification provided by the vendor themselves.
Sounds like you're getting ready to spend at least $3K on a camera, Fran. The camera can only show you areas that are still drying, not areas that mildew has attacked before. Wildlife, sure, if they're out in the open (and not nested under insulation in your attic, which is more likely). And last, there is no industry cert for IR, unfortunately- they're all given out by the training providers themselves. Try infraspection.com/ for an online option.
Have the Flir One, and use it all the time. Thanks for the info!
Thx for watching!
Are these any good for distance ?? tia
Pretty vague q- check out the specs on the cameras to find out specifics
I'm looking for a Flur camera under $2,000 preferably that is suitable for monitoring or evaluating hotspots on printed circuit boards with many small components close together.
Good idea- I would direct you to FLIR’s sales staff, they know a lot more than I do about application-specific camera models.
This is very interesting. Thanks for this.
You’re quite welcome, Hugh!
I have the bottom mount flir one. I like it. Main complaint is it doesn't pull power from the phone.
The battery is never charged when I need it. I don't use it often.
I wouldn't mind an affordable xray tool. I often have to secure to concrete. Can't tell what's under.
I think thermapp Th also has the software that is easy to work with. I own one of them and the resolution and field of view is really good.
But if we are going for moisture measurement. The thermapp pro will be the most suitable which is not shown in this video. 0.03degree celcius sensitivity
Greetings from 2021! Thanks for the video. Looks like I'll be going with a Flir One Pro. Also, what kind of North face jacket is that? It looks awesome. Thanks.
Ha- thanks Baron. It was a kind of shirt-jacket mutant. Don’t have it anymore though.
Worth to mention the P2 thermal camera. Best in class.
Which would you suggest for finding leaks in homes made from concrete and cinder blocks?
Any of these could work for that, but you’d also need a blower door if looking for air leaks.
@@HomePerformance what about plumbing leaks in dense materials?
Any will do, but you also need a surface moisture meter.
My dad made these he made the skeeter thermal imaging sights about 10 years ago
Cool man
Any update on this now six years later? How good are the base models for the iphone from Flir in 2024?
Good job on video:
Vid made simple: The speaker states that the best camera depends on the job. For example, while the speaker states that he would only take the FLIR T 660, the $25,000 camera, for a large commercial building, he also states that this camera was not ideal for apartment scans, which were the focus of his job that week.
Here is a summary of the pros and cons of each camera:
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FLIR One
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Pros: Inexpensive ($250 or $400 for the Pro version); portable because it is attached to a phone; can have the software updated endlessly.
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Cons: Doesn't have as many features as some of the more expensive cameras.
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FLIR C2
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Pros: Durable and able to be used independently of a cell phone, making it well-suited to be given to clients; relatively inexpensive ($700).
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Cons: Does not have as many features as some of the more expensive cameras.
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FLIR MR160
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Pros: Is both an infrared imager and a moisture meter; relatively inexpensive ($700).
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Cons: Not very good as an infrared imager.
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Therm-App
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Pros: Has night vision and live video streaming capabilities; relatively inexpensive ($700).
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Cons: Only works with Android.
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Fluke TIR 110
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Pros: Good resolution and size; reporting software is excellent for creating reports; long battery life.
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Cons: Costs $5,000.
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FLIR T 660
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Pros: High quality images; can take videos; has both manual and autofocus.
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Cons: Costs $25,000; narrow field of view; takes 30 seconds to boot up.
The speaker ultimately concludes that if he could only buy one camera, he would buy a $5,000 imager with a good field of view that records easily onto an SD card and has good reporting software. He states that this is because he likes to be able to create reports with 9 images per page. However, he does not explicitly state which of the cameras he reviewed meets all of these criteria.
Thoughts on the newer flir one's? I would need it for personal home use due to mold related illness, so it would help catch any hidden leaks
Thanks for the detailed info!
Glad it was helpful
Great video 👍🏻 I’m going to give the FLIR ONE Pro a try.
Perfect for you buddy
Agreed, it is a great video! And get a Flir One. Incredibly useful for simple diagnostics.
Hi there, great video :) Would the Flir One be good to look for animals on safari? (Just to spot them during the night)
Better than nothing, not even close to what you see on Animal Planet
You can try the Seek thermal which has higher resolution however it doesn’t have the MSX features
Great show !
🥳
Like the review. First question; just what is it the you do? Building inspector? Second, you mentioned that the Fluke tir 110 is the “one” to have and your favorite...it’s been discounted. They don’t make it anymore. So what is the replacement now? Thanks for making a great video comparison.
Hi Jeff- I’m a home performance consultant by trade. Hope you watch more from our channel and see. Since Fluke stopped making that unit, look for one (any brand) that meets the same profile or better, for less $$.
Great video. Are there any imagers they detect refrigerant leaks in residential?
Interesting q- I haven’t tried it, but theoretically yes, any of these could detect it if you get close enough and conditions are right. Don’t think it would save you any time vs. a leak detector tho.
Very helpful summary. Many thanks
Thx!
Good small comparison, though I'd love some sensor specs and images side to side
Good feedback- next time
Incredible review. Thanks
Awesome Cody, thanks for the love
Great presentation. Of all the products you demonstrated which would be the top 3 most effective to determine if there is moisture beneath a flat roof when scanning from top?
Please advise and thank you for sharing.
Pros who perform roof inspections generally are charging a higher price, and therefore generally carry more expensive equipment. I’d talk with United Infrared or InfraSpection Institute.
Which is the cheapest and reliable thermal camera for integration with custom developed softwares
Wow, deep question- I’m not sure any of these would integrate with a helpful third party software, but try FLIR first. They sell sensors directly to camera fabricators, I believe.
Very informative video. Thanks!
So glad you enjoyed it, Lance
Be thankful you have a odd job. A job like mines is all performance results. There's not much need to open it up in macro terms -- these devices I've not seen on a huge consumer scale.
Thank you for this video. What technology would you use to find pool cracks? Empty pool.
Hm, hadn’t ever heard of that one- I suppose I’d try the inexpensive end of the scale, since the expensive ones are for when you need max info with quick turnaround from a distance- up close and with lots of time, any of these should work if IR will work at all.
Absolutely fascinating, and well presented! Definitely subscribing 👍
Thanks for watching Matt
Which camera works best to find a ghost
That’s the only reason why I’m watching this
Sorry to break your heart
But which camera is best to find a ghost
You should make a video video for cameras on how which camera is best to find that goes
It's like having the right Hammer for the job...
You wouldn't use a Sledgehammer to break Toffee...😂
Thanks for information..would u pls guide which one is suit for exploriing water infiltration in tunneling and metro??
Wow, that sounds awesome, but I have no idea what to advise you
3:23 not quite, importen to point out that certainly not all Flir have MSX, the hole midrange section do not have it, like TG130 and TG165 and newest TG167 with wifi... if you want MSX outline tech, you need the small pocket ones, or jump to the E series and above.(at least my understanding) but on the other hand, Im only a rookie, have just purchased my first cam after checking the market and alternatives for weeks.
Purchased an new 240x320 (76.800) sensor IR-cam for 250 euro incl. shipping to Scandinavia.(been playing with it these last days and also put up some videos of our cat and some video with distance think the result is deent for the price and the sensor.
Its adjustable but will put a few more bucks out there and get me some IR lenses to make me an DIY makro feature.(but sofare im blown away with the possiblelities, very fascinating)
Thanks for the thoughtful points, Jakob!
can you point me to the 250 euro 240x320 camera? I can't find anything close. Seek cameras with that res are $700. Thanks!
@@maxrockbin I think that price tag will give you a well working second hand 160 X 120 resolution thermal imager (Fluke or Flir)
Can you review some of the Seek Thermal cameras?
@Home performance.
You should just slap on a Macro lens onto that 25k camera to let you have bigger FOV
Just slap it on. Give it a little slap slappy.
Which infrared camera would you recommend for drive by photos to send to homeowners?
Great videos.. thank you..
You’re so welcome
Good job 👍🏻 do you have any experience with the Milwaukee models. Thx
Sorry, Burt, I do not
are the C2 and flir T660 suitable for humid environment and is any of them waterproof?
If any of these could survive being splashed or rained on, it’s definitely the C2.
Now China have a nice thermal camera called
iray T3S . It's 384*288 VOx 25Hz Camera only cost 5000￥(700$)
With the flir one can’t you mirror it to like a chrome book too ?
FLIR should make a dashcam affordable to all dashcam fans!!!!!!!💡💡💡💡💡
Ha
where is Testo thermal camera model 882? 240x320 with s-resolution of 480x640?
I bet it’s in your kit
@@HomePerformance Truth. I have used it, also I see on your desk Flir and Fluke, Testo is comparable with these two at 320x240 segment
So random question, after the UFO hearings recently I did some research on some of the topics brought up and they were saying the UAP response agencies have been capturing UAP a lot on infrared cameras what would you recommend if I'm hunting aliens?
What equipment do you suggest to use for measurement of humidity in walls due to dampness in it. and what camera (visually) can tell you best when a walls is wet or dry?
"A bird!" HA! LOL Great video: Super informative and entertaining.
Thanks for watching, DF! Keep those kids under control. haha.
Hi Corbett, Have you tried the new equipment? T1020, T530 or a E95?
Great video. Thanks
I haven’t, Diego. Thanks for watching!
Excellent well thought out and explained Video.
Thanks!
Would any of them be able to sense thru a drywall wall to detect metal
Great review! I am a research conducting wildlife surveys in canopy of the Amazon, and am hoping to use something like the FLIR one to spot sloths and other arboreal species at night (would love thermapp but don't have that budget). Would this work for this purpose? I am wondering at what distance the flir one would be able to detect thermal radiation, as some of those amazonian trees are pretty tall. I would only need to spot animals in the darkness, which could then be identified with a good flashlight - I would only need the thermal camera to notice the animals under the cover of darkness. Thanks!
Hmm- at night, you won’t be relying on the visual light MSX image enhancement, which is a big part of making the lower-end cameras look good. Honestly, spend the $200 and find out- what you might need to really see a detailed, in-focus sloth is an expensive cam.
How do you like the Thermapp? I'm considering purchasing it and wanted to see how you feel it compares to the rest of your ir cameras. I'm a passive house architect and want to check the performance of my passive house buildings and show clients how I can improve their existing homes.
For an architect, I’d say it’s a terrific tool. Not as powerful as the $5k range, but you don’t need that. Recommend you call TruTech and ask about the latest features they’ve got on it- mine is a few years old.
Home Performance Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep it on my list of tools to purchase. It would be great if you did a video about the tools to have in the home performance professional's toolbag. I've been building up my kit with tools like a moisture meter, anemometer, laser measure, super bright flashlight, and plan on adding a fast sensing temp and humidity meter as well.
I would greatly appreciate you helping out you showed a flare one that fits into a case like Mobic case u stated it’s not a camera Hooks in to the bottom of the phone but a case I can find nothing on the website for this also spoke with them and I thought I was from Mars Did not know when I was talking about please advise
Well would you consider to put a link to that cheap flir camera on the description ? thanks in advance.
chase jarvis said , the best camera is the one you have with you !
Exactly
Hi.. How accurate the cheapest one to the expensive one? Thanks.. 😊🙂
What about the seek thermal?
Haven’t used it, this is just what I had in my kit. I don’t sell these.
I use a Seek Sureshot Pro on my home inspections and energy assessments. I've gone through numerous from a phone attached to Testo. I'm very happy with the Seek Sureshot for its slim pocket size, resolution, and price.
Not a fan of moisture meters. Moisture meters do not detect moisture! The inexperience will get false positives.
can you use flir one for ghost hunting?
Sure, hunt away
You are awesome..now I narrowed down the tool I need. Now do you teach or have a YT Video showing how to use any of these equipment tool? Like the 5k fluke tir110 ?. 🙃
Thanks, and check out my book Home Performance Diagnostics or my Mastermind course.
can any of these see inside the earth underground and measure the reflectivity/reflectance of objects inside the earth??
Sorry, no, that’s not possible with IR thermal cameras
How are these things for locating live squirrels behind drywall?
That's a good q. No answers here, sorry.
Have you tried the FLIR camera that is in the CAT phone s62? I have been looking into building my own house, and with an engineering background all of this building science that is starting to become more popular is very interesting to me, so I thought having an IR camera might be useful while under construction. Since I need a new phone anyway this phone piqued my interest, but I'm not sure how good the FLIR Lepton sensor in it really is, and since the rest of the phone is kind of dated I don't want to get it just for that camera only to find out it isn't very good.
What jacket so you wear?
Could you recommend a company in NYC that can provide thermal and moisture inspections?
Only one of the top guys in the country- Michael Dunseith at Green Jobs Training Center. Very NYC, but basically a teddy bear with lots of tools and experience.
@@HomePerformance Thank you!
Great instructional video…thanks for making it. Question…I want to assemble an array of bright ir emitting LEDs and visualize them in the most cost effective manner. The LEDs will be mounted on a board and they’ll be placed 1” apart and they array will be 12” x 12” for a total of 144 LEDs. Will the $250 device that attaches to the cell phone be sufficient for my application, I.e., resolving all 144 LEDs. Thanks.
Hey Dave- what an unusual question! You can do the math on this, but the variable that’s missing is how far from the array the camera will be.
@@HomePerformance Thanks for getting back. I plan to use IR LEDs for a clock design and I plan to view from no more than 2 feet away. Just wasn't sure if the camera would have the resolution needed to see all 144 LEDs as well as the field of view.
Yes, the least expensive of these should be fine
I didn't quite get why you said you don't update the iOS on the iPhone of the first cam. Would people who have updated their phones no be able to use the first one?
I meant I wasn’t upgrading hardware, not software. Newer phones are bigger, and wouldn’t fit the cam.