*PLEASE READ* I supported Sauces stream nearly every day keeping him tabbed (muted) while I’d play overwatch, edit videos etc or even play Wiz everyday. This is also which leads him to believe I was “sniping” him sometimes. Keep in mind when I’m live I see my friends in the list all the time but I never accuse them of sniping and they never play sus.
Probably should make sure he knows clearly that you’re watching him to support him and that you’re doing something else at the time …less likely he’ll come back and say you’re sniping him. It’s kind of disheartening to hear that he’s saying that to be honest.
vouch, liahm literally watches every sauce stream when him and i are in vc i can always hear sauce's stream come thru. i vc with him and our friends every single day, and never once has liahm gone out of his way to snipe someone. the game is small, the que is even smaller, you shouldnt have to stop playing the game because someone is live just so you don't que them. last night liahm was in call with me as soon as his stream ended, and he said he was going to que a couple more games and then get off. liahm has never sat there and studied who is on his friends list in order to que them, he doesnt even read his chat while live most times (no offense). also set shields does not = snipining, you can literally see what liahm packs on his stream. really sad to see all this happen.
🤷♀️ he assumed since u watch his streams, u we're sniping him during his matches. it's a fair assumption for him to make. there's no solution for this besides sauce toning himself down specifically for the purpose of his fans fucking off.
Sauce cycles between every loss is from cheaters, to RNG is rigged against him, etc, etc… If you match against him, inevitably he will accuse nearly anybody of cheating. He has a hard time processing losing as an adult. Don't get too sucked into it.
I been saying he blows everything in proportion. I stopped watching him back in 2018 he became a mental mess I wish bro the best I can’t support a dude who starts nonsense and negativity towards another individual ( no one has to agree with what I say )
Keyword: Gaslight. He's very good at gaslighting and reframing the situation to make himself look like the victim, even though he was probably the aggressor.
Sauce was put on by therealjay many years ago when he started yt, its crazy to see him now (as the biggest wiztuber) dismissing, ignoring, and even accusing smaller creators.
I always remember that - to any streamer - I'm not a person, I'm just content, which is why I commonly try to avoid or simply flee. A streamer's opponent is always trash, either because I lose (bad player) or because I win (trash strategy).
Sauce ego is wilder than his hair and thats talking. Once his ego is damaged AT ALL he's a fuming child and screams sniper. I went back to watch the VOD of him tripping and someone literally said "he only uses 2 set shields" and he said "you dont know how many he had" like that's supposed to mean something. His cope is unlike any ive ever seen
it’s hard to take sauce serious or even like him at this point. he always makes fun of people saying he calls almost everyone a cheater, when in reality he really does at least indicate that most if not all his matches on any given day are against cheaters. if he loses a game it’s 10 minutes of complaining, if he wins chances are he’s toxic towards his opponent, who he always believes was watching anyways. not the stuff of legends to say the least
He is an overgrown child, I used to think he was a chill dude but like his toxicity has no limits when he's pvping, he thinks he's just better than everyone and if he loses to you, it's cuz you were either stream sniping, setting or you're just playing the most broken schools (counter schools) which is a stupid argument. The dude is good at pvp, he just has to learn that you have to lose some games brother, you can't win every damn game. If it was possible to win every game, then the game wouldn't work. I hope you keep going Liahm, you're honestly one of the best people playing this game and don't let this stop you from going to where you want to be. Cheers homie.
Hey, Liahm. I just wanted to say that I utterly *commend* you for having the *bravery* to speak out against this *self-absorbed, manipulative, hypocritical, narcississt* . Over the years, I've been a constant on and off fan of Thomas. I've seen him go through drama before with multiple other RUclipsrs in the past (Heather, Tara, WizDrama, etc..). Anytime anyone gives him the *slightest ounce of unwarranted criticism* , he goes off. In almost every instance of this happening, I've seen him *gaslight and manipulate* his audience for questioning his playstyle, or not *automatically agreeing* that someone is stream sniping him. I don't think Thomas is a bad person. In many cases, I empathize with him because people do troll him to such an unnecessary extent; however, where I start to not feel bad is when he constantly complains and critizes people over their playstyles or "exploiting the meta," but *makes excuses for when he does it too* . I went from being a huge fan of his streams, to someone who actively hopes he loses every match because of his extreme obnoxious attitude and overconfidence when he wins, but absolutely unruly whiny behavior when he loses. He also makes it too easy for these trolls to get under his skin, but if you tell him that, as many of his fans have in the past, then you might just get *banned* . He wants people to validate his emotions, specifically his anger and rage, but he does this to an absurd level, and then makes it seem like people are attacking him -- that's called *manipulation* . Thomas makes this game look bad, and the reason he gets an overwhelming number of hate is because of the *influence* he has over PVP. I started noticing Thomas' increasing influence with the Devs, such as RatBeard, about a little over 3 years ago, when PVP was going through a massive overhaul. Many of the changes to PVP, such as the cards and playstyles that have been removed, were due directly because of *his complaints* , that sometimes the *MAJORITY* of players *DON'T WANT* . Again, I don't think Thomas is a bad guy (besides from gaslighting his viewers), but he wonders why people have such a strong resentment towards him when he has the MOST influence in the direction of this game, and a lot of times not for the best. Another point of contention that I'd like to go over is how he advocates for the ban of people he's suspected have cheated or stream-sniped. I don't think that someone who has the influence that he does in the Wiz community should be telling Kingsisle what players they should and shouldn't ban, especially when there isn't *solid proof* that all these people have done anything wrong worth warranting a ban -- other than making Thomas rage (which doesn't take much besides winning using a "brainless" strategy, even though there's no specific rules on PVP as for how to play). At the end of the day, keep voicing your opinion, Liahm, otherwise Thomas and the people in his echo-chamber are never going to let him be wrong. He's ruined the reputation and credibility of a lot of people over the past few years, and it's about time that someone finally had the courage to speak out against him IN THE RIGHT WAY, so that he can't make it seem like we're the ones "bullying him," as he's done many other times.
Can't believe you wrote an entire essay, but everything you said was spot on! I tried giving him a chance a few years back, but realized I could never consider myself one of his "fans" because I'm too honest for someone like him and I won't hold back my criticisms. I'm glad people are starting to finally notice his toxic influence on wiz.
Used to watch Sauce when he played 2nd Age, 3rd Age, & 4th Age. He was cool in the beginning, but over the years Thomas has turned into a manchild (as seen in the Ryan Sword drama which Thomas apologized for in Ryan's comment section before it was privated). I appreciate Thomas for his competitive nature and the things he's done for the community, but there needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Thomas and his supporters need to understand that he's not perfect. He doesn't know how to accept a loss, he makes excuses, and he abuses his privileges which is why the community doesn’t like him. I fear thaf if he keeps this up something bad will happen to him.
I knew this was coming after i saw sauce do another meltdown against you, I was starting to think you guys had hidden beef because everytime he plays you he goes off on tangents if he loses, like that fire pve match and now this one, never seen him accuse you when he's winning
@TajMahal292 u think so but they in each others discords servers and have each other added on wizards in game it seems like they are cool, especially as 2 of the main pvp content sources for the game
If you watch Awesome stream that this happened in, he makes it seem like Liam is more of a random/fan than another content creator that deals with similar issues as him lol . Not how I would speak and or assume stuff about somebody I’m “cool with” . He was also asked in stream if they were friends to resounding “no”
I came back to the game and watch Sauce, but didn't know he was like that. To be honest his voice did sound annoying to me and I didn't particularly like watching him, I just have no ways to relearn pvp and the game itself so I've been struggling. I want to relearn the game to hopefully make some videos on it myself (also influenced by Sauce's annoying voice) and try to help new players get their way around this crazy game, but I guess I'll have to really hold off or change my strategy as I'm only a level 20 or 21 in the game lol Thanks for calling him out, hope everything works out for you. You seem like a better person (I like your voice more anyways, doesn't sound like a nasal whine) and I'll start looking through your content as this is the first video I've seen from you. Might tune into streams if I see any. If you or anyone else has any tips that would be great!
That’s unfortunate to hear. I hope you guys can either work it out or it will blow over and be in the past. Ya’ll are both good players and members of the community in my eyes.
I like how everyone agrees, he’s annoying and so damn immature. It’s a video game. He’s def not the best in the world but swears he is/swears he should never lose.
I watched the vod back and saw the match. There is a way to handle things. Now, assuming Thomas made his claims due to anger, I would say this was poorly handled on his end. If there is an accusation, you should privately confront the person first. After all, he is assuming, and went off nothing factual. His audience will likely turn a small problem into a much major one. No matter how much you tell them to not berate the person he has an issue with, they will not listen. Hopefully, he responds back respectfully.
I used to watch Sauce quite a bit when I got back into wiz. Ive blocked him now, he is super toxic and has berated me, so now I have nothing to do with him.
Been shitting on Suace since i called em out on copying Dashie Xp. The guy picked up the wacky ness and the vibe from dashie xp for years. Go watch Dashie and then watch Sauce, the kid literally stole the vibes . I called em out on it and he got all defensive and starting having his dork fans try to defend him. 🤣
Sauce has always been a geek. Ever since I connected the dots on who he is, it's solidified my hate for sauce. This guy adds me on discord getting me confused w a whole other pvper and starts being racist and just verbally assaulting me. It didn't bother me I enjoy hate but when I didn't even do anything that gets me confused. Literally got me mixed up w another guy that has a similar name and we both PvP.
Sauce is really toxic. He calls almost everyone who beats him a sniper. He bullies people who disagree with him and I don’t like that he gets away with it when he has such a high position in the community.
Honestly a weird accusation based on what seemed to be a somewhat friendly relationship between you two recently. You were just on a round table together and I remember seeing you guys doing a raid somewhere not too long ago
Sauce's anger towards you is rightfully unjustified, that is on him. Seems to me things can be worked out pretty easily because in terms of drama this is pretty tame. In any case keep up the good work mate you are a incredible streamer. Have a good day :)
I agree ur getting acted out on right now. Best thing you can do is talk directly to sauce. He’s a good human being. Get him at the right time and you can have a discussion with him. You both need to be in the right frame of mind though. Because you both can be hotheads to be completely honest with you. Best of luck.
The main reason why I dont PvP is because I wanna avoid getting banned. I've been softbanned before because I wont a PvP match against some salty loser that reported me. It was cleared up, because it was bs, but that was just some small nobody. Now you got some bigwigs with the power to just report someone, and if their fans see this, they're just gonna mass report that poor sod too because "Oh my favorite content creator was insulted" blahblahblah. Congratulations to the people who wanna revive PvP by driving away any potential newcomers just cause they dont wanna see someone get salty and get banned for it. See this is stupid. Big PvP players keep advocating to bring back the "good old days of PvP" and want more players, but then when they get a bad match, they just do things that kicks or bans new players, incentivizing them to NOT wanna PvP. Congratulations. All that accomplishes is letting only toxic people into your game mode because they hate PvPers. You know what... To all the big people that say KI is killing PvP. Nu-uh... When you act like this, then it's YOU guys that kill PvP. I dont even play PvP and even I can smell this is BS.
Yeah honestly him coming into your server just to flame you was just uncalled for and I never expected that out of Sauce. Also idk why it's so hard for him to believe you were watching Val play Beastmoon, she was literally streaming it until her Twitch and RUclips decided to die for no reason 😭.
i don’t play wiz or watch wiz content anymore, but i love to see people telling sauce he’s just a shitter and needs to chill the fuck out. almost every time i’ve gone to one of his streams he’s bitching about people sniping him and victimizing himself. for anyone who still plays the game, just don’t queue when sauce is playing, he’ll most likely try and run you out of the game oh i also want to say, i saw the match, sauce literally accused him of sniping before the match even started. the moment he and liahm entered the duel circle he was already complaining. this dude really thinks he’s such a huge content creator and everyone’s out to get him that he gets mad at people for even getting him in pvp. all he wants in pvp are shitty players he can talk shit about, whenever it’s a balanced matchup he starts whining
Same. I just watch sauces vods sometimes and i skip forward to see if he lost. If he lost and is raging I’ll watch the game lmao. I don’t do that to other streamers, but after how sauce has treated me and others in this community it gives me entertainment to watch him rage at the state of the game he yesmanned into existence
sauce was saying how Liam was quiet and didn't talk back, but failed to realize if he did talk back during the stream sauce and friends would cook him alive lmaoo
I've been watching him for the past 8 years, and he's been my wizard101 idol since 2015. I hate drama of any type, and coming from another community with nothing but drama day in and day out, it's sad to see that people are willing to blow something as small as a few set shields out of proportion.
Bro you are actually good at the game sauce plays meta in order to win while cheating by having extra eyes from chat telling him what to use and sauce has snipped me twice before I can literally go and find the video on his channel id say just don’t give him no more attention it isn’t worth it 🤷🏽♂️ everyone knows u are in top 10 player in world category they fear u
nothing you are saying is wrong but overall the heat on sauce is blown out of proportion we know that his accusations were wrong but in his point of view, someone counters his every move as he is streaming. he's not wrong for having claimed u were setting. its probably the smartest thing someone in his position could realize actually, but obviously it ended up being wrong in the end. there's not much that can be done about this. the fans can fuck off though. sauce doesn't need to tone it down or apologize. there's really nothing besides him maybe considering once in a while that not every match that has him countered all the time is someone who set for him.
@@liahmisavibe After sauce tagged you in the stream, someone else tried and were unable to. It seems kinda weird that you left at that time. Anyways, only you know what you did so.
@@liahmisavibe Liam I've read the pinned comment and watched the video. You did not address the question that I'm asking. When I was watching the stream, it seemed you left the chat after you were tagged because others were trying to tag you and could not. It just seems a bit weird to leave at that exact moment. Like I said earlier, only you know what you did so..
I messaged him so many times THEN and NOW, and he WON'T listen. So I had to make a video since he's trying to ruin my credibility and not listen to the TRUTH.
@@liahmisavibe sad to hear brother cause I respect both of you guys in the community just hope yall find a way to work things out cause this community is toxic enough already
@AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq The game is literally marketed for kids, bro. U trying to deny that? Also, you'd be surprised how good kids can get at video games.
Brother, you realize that sauce calls literally everyone that beats him sniping set or playing better schools right? Like he can't take an L it's okay, you are just another Sauce drone roaming the planet, learn that everyone has a way to play the game, Liahm literally played that game WITH THE SAME EXACT DECK he runs EVERY FREAKING DAY on STREAM.
this kinda bold to say when sauce has like 3 videos about someone stream sniping them but left out his DMs to the player where he was legitimately bullying them. also, youtube comments disappear all the time, my own comments disappear on the regular
*PLEASE READ*
I supported Sauces stream nearly every day keeping him tabbed (muted) while I’d play overwatch, edit videos etc or even play Wiz everyday.
This is also which leads him to believe I was “sniping” him sometimes.
Keep in mind when I’m live I see my friends in the list all the time but I never accuse them of sniping and they never play sus.
Probably should make sure he knows clearly that you’re watching him to support him and that you’re doing something else at the time …less likely he’ll come back and say you’re sniping him. It’s kind of disheartening to hear that he’s saying that to be honest.
@@TigerLily408that’s the thing I have been telling him this in the DM before I made a whole video…
vouch, liahm literally watches every sauce stream when him and i are in vc i can always hear sauce's stream come thru. i vc with him and our friends every single day, and never once has liahm gone out of his way to snipe someone. the game is small, the que is even smaller, you shouldnt have to stop playing the game because someone is live just so you don't que them. last night liahm was in call with me as soon as his stream ended, and he said he was going to que a couple more games and then get off. liahm has never sat there and studied who is on his friends list in order to que them, he doesnt even read his chat while live most times (no offense). also set shields does not = snipining, you can literally see what liahm packs on his stream. really sad to see all this happen.
🤷♀️ he assumed since u watch his streams, u we're sniping him during his matches. it's a fair assumption for him to make. there's no solution for this besides sauce toning himself down specifically for the purpose of his fans fucking off.
people literally told him you always have storm set and he wouldn't listen and thru a fit
Sauce cycles between every loss is from cheaters, to RNG is rigged against him, etc, etc… If you match against him, inevitably he will accuse nearly anybody of cheating. He has a hard time processing losing as an adult. Don't get too sucked into it.
Sauce is the most bipolar creator I've seen. It's either downplay to defend KI or blow everything out of proportion and gaslight others.
I been saying he blows everything in proportion. I stopped watching him back in 2018 he became a mental mess I wish bro the best I can’t support a dude who starts nonsense and negativity towards another individual ( no one has to agree with what I say )
Keyword: Gaslight. He's very good at gaslighting and reframing the situation to make himself look like the victim, even though he was probably the aggressor.
Sauce was put on by therealjay many years ago when he started yt, its crazy to see him now (as the biggest wiztuber) dismissing, ignoring, and even accusing smaller creators.
I always remember that - to any streamer - I'm not a person, I'm just content, which is why I commonly try to avoid or simply flee. A streamer's opponent is always trash, either because I lose (bad player) or because I win (trash strategy).
this unfortunately feels pretty true. i remember blakepvp being the best streamer out there for not acting that way
Sauce ego is wilder than his hair and thats talking. Once his ego is damaged AT ALL he's a fuming child and screams sniper. I went back to watch the VOD of him tripping and someone literally said "he only uses 2 set shields" and he said "you dont know how many he had" like that's supposed to mean something. His cope is unlike any ive ever seen
it’s hard to take sauce serious or even like him at this point. he always makes fun of people saying he calls almost everyone a cheater, when in reality he really does at least indicate that most if not all his matches on any given day are against cheaters. if he loses a game it’s 10 minutes of complaining, if he wins chances are he’s toxic towards his opponent, who he always believes was watching anyways. not the stuff of legends to say the least
He has such a big ego, he will assume you are sniping if he loses lol
When you comment something in his chat he like half reads what you say or reads it incorrectly and then gets mad at what he thought you said lol
Sauce = Toxic Toddler
man child who dropped out of standford for streaming 😭
fr dude is constantly whining
@@767juandid he seriously drop out? Genuinely curious
@@lechugosonah he graduated then decided full time streamer
I would say sauce has done this in the past a lot with like sneaky sunshine. I will say, he has a tendency to lie to cover himself.
He is an overgrown child, I used to think he was a chill dude but like his toxicity has no limits when he's pvping, he thinks he's just better than everyone and if he loses to you, it's cuz you were either stream sniping, setting or you're just playing the most broken schools (counter schools) which is a stupid argument. The dude is good at pvp, he just has to learn that you have to lose some games brother, you can't win every damn game. If it was possible to win every game, then the game wouldn't work. I hope you keep going Liahm, you're honestly one of the best people playing this game and don't let this stop you from going to where you want to be. Cheers homie.
Anyone who plays wizard101 is an overgrown child 💀
@@marianelaflores4368 L opinion.
@@AnxietyonAcid something a child would say
Hey, Liahm. I just wanted to say that I utterly *commend* you for having the *bravery* to speak out against this *self-absorbed, manipulative, hypocritical, narcississt* . Over the years, I've been a constant on and off fan of Thomas. I've seen him go through drama before with multiple other RUclipsrs in the past (Heather, Tara, WizDrama, etc..). Anytime anyone gives him the *slightest ounce of unwarranted criticism* , he goes off. In almost every instance of this happening, I've seen him *gaslight and manipulate* his audience for questioning his playstyle, or not *automatically agreeing* that someone is stream sniping him.
I don't think Thomas is a bad person. In many cases, I empathize with him because people do troll him to such an unnecessary extent; however, where I start to not feel bad is when he constantly complains and critizes people over their playstyles or "exploiting the meta," but *makes excuses for when he does it too* . I went from being a huge fan of his streams, to someone who actively hopes he loses every match because of his extreme obnoxious attitude and overconfidence when he wins, but absolutely unruly whiny behavior when he loses. He also makes it too easy for these trolls to get under his skin, but if you tell him that, as many of his fans have in the past, then you might just get *banned* . He wants people to validate his emotions, specifically his anger and rage, but he does this to an absurd level, and then makes it seem like people are attacking him -- that's called *manipulation* .
Thomas makes this game look bad, and the reason he gets an overwhelming number of hate is because of the *influence* he has over PVP. I started noticing Thomas' increasing influence with the Devs, such as RatBeard, about a little over 3 years ago, when PVP was going through a massive overhaul. Many of the changes to PVP, such as the cards and playstyles that have been removed, were due directly because of *his complaints* , that sometimes the *MAJORITY* of players *DON'T WANT* . Again, I don't think Thomas is a bad guy (besides from gaslighting his viewers), but he wonders why people have such a strong resentment towards him when he has the MOST influence in the direction of this game, and a lot of times not for the best.
Another point of contention that I'd like to go over is how he advocates for the ban of people he's suspected have cheated or stream-sniped. I don't think that someone who has the influence that he does in the Wiz community should be telling Kingsisle what players they should and shouldn't ban, especially when there isn't *solid proof* that all these people have done anything wrong worth warranting a ban -- other than making Thomas rage (which doesn't take much besides winning using a "brainless" strategy, even though there's no specific rules on PVP as for how to play).
At the end of the day, keep voicing your opinion, Liahm, otherwise Thomas and the people in his echo-chamber are never going to let him be wrong. He's ruined the reputation and credibility of a lot of people over the past few years, and it's about time that someone finally had the courage to speak out against him IN THE RIGHT WAY, so that he can't make it seem like we're the ones "bullying him," as he's done many other times.
Can't believe you wrote an entire essay, but everything you said was spot on! I tried giving him a chance a few years back, but realized I could never consider myself one of his "fans" because I'm too honest for someone like him and I won't hold back my criticisms. I'm glad people are starting to finally notice his toxic influence on wiz.
Used to watch Sauce when he played 2nd Age, 3rd Age, & 4th Age. He was cool in the beginning, but over the years Thomas has turned into a manchild (as seen in the Ryan Sword drama which Thomas apologized for in Ryan's comment section before it was privated).
I appreciate Thomas for his competitive nature and the things he's done for the community, but there needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Thomas and his supporters need to understand that he's not perfect.
He doesn't know how to accept a loss, he makes excuses, and he abuses his privileges which is why the community doesn’t like him. I fear thaf if he keeps this up something bad will happen to him.
I knew this was coming after i saw sauce do another meltdown against you, I was starting to think you guys had hidden beef because everytime he plays you he goes off on tangents if he loses, like that fire pve match and now this one, never seen him accuse you when he's winning
Yeah i was gonna mention that fire PVE shit LOL. Bro just don’t like Liam at this point 😂😂😂😂
@TajMahal292 u think so but they in each others discords servers and have each other added on wizards in game it seems like they are cool, especially as 2 of the main pvp content sources for the game
If you watch Awesome stream that this happened in, he makes it seem like Liam is more of a random/fan than another content creator that deals with similar issues as him lol . Not how I would speak and or assume stuff about somebody I’m “cool with” . He was also asked in stream if they were friends to resounding “no”
I came back to the game and watch Sauce, but didn't know he was like that. To be honest his voice did sound annoying to me and I didn't particularly like watching him, I just have no ways to relearn pvp and the game itself so I've been struggling.
I want to relearn the game to hopefully make some videos on it myself (also influenced by Sauce's annoying voice) and try to help new players get their way around this crazy game, but I guess I'll have to really hold off or change my strategy as I'm only a level 20 or 21 in the game lol
Thanks for calling him out, hope everything works out for you. You seem like a better person (I like your voice more anyways, doesn't sound like a nasal whine) and I'll start looking through your content as this is the first video I've seen from you. Might tune into streams if I see any.
If you or anyone else has any tips that would be great!
That’s unfortunate to hear. I hope you guys can either work it out or it will blow over and be in the past. Ya’ll are both good players and members of the community in my eyes.
I like how everyone agrees, he’s annoying and so damn immature. It’s a video game. He’s def not the best in the world but swears he is/swears he should never lose.
I watched the vod back and saw the match. There is a way to handle things. Now, assuming Thomas made his claims due to anger, I would say this was poorly handled on his end. If there is an accusation, you should privately confront the person first. After all, he is assuming, and went off nothing factual. His audience will likely turn a small problem into a much major one. No matter how much you tell them to not berate the person he has an issue with, they will not listen. Hopefully, he responds back respectfully.
I completely agree with you. If anyone else acted like this in W101 they would be banned.... lol.
I used to watch Sauce quite a bit when I got back into wiz. Ive blocked him now, he is super toxic and has berated me, so now I have nothing to do with him.
Been shitting on Suace since i called em out on copying Dashie Xp. The guy picked up the wacky ness and the vibe from dashie xp for years. Go watch Dashie and then watch Sauce, the kid literally stole the vibes . I called em out on it and he got all defensive and starting having his dork fans try to defend him. 🤣
BLEEHH how come i didn’t notice this 😭😭
Sauce has always been a geek. Ever since I connected the dots on who he is, it's solidified my hate for sauce. This guy adds me on discord getting me confused w a whole other pvper and starts being racist and just verbally assaulting me. It didn't bother me I enjoy hate but when I didn't even do anything that gets me confused. Literally got me mixed up w another guy that has a similar name and we both PvP.
W vid
I can’t stand sauce, he thinks he’s so righteous and can do no wrong. What a coward. 🤮
I mean that's just not true is it
@@FullMetalEdits 🤓
Alejandro rose is idris tempest btw
That makes sense now lmao
4:39 cute cat
Keep up the videos Liam I love your honesty
Sauce is just goofy! He thinks he knows everything!
He's a spoiled and immature child that doesn't know how to lose
Naked oil wrestling the only way to settle the beef 🥱
Sauce is really toxic. He calls almost everyone who beats him a sniper. He bullies people who disagree with him and I don’t like that he gets away with it when he has such a high position in the community.
Honestly a weird accusation based on what seemed to be a somewhat friendly relationship between you two recently. You were just on a round table together and I remember seeing you guys doing a raid somewhere not too long ago
we know u didnt snipe liam man just can't accept the lost it's only ggs when he wins
Sauce's anger towards you is rightfully unjustified, that is on him. Seems to me things can be worked out pretty easily because in terms of drama this is pretty tame. In any case keep up the good work mate you are a incredible streamer. Have a good day :)
Dang you guys got smoke now?
Sauce just wants attention!
Sanju down!
Sauce is weird!
Thanks for stopping at the wiz wedding today!
Advice: Just don’t pvp anymore, it’s not worth it tbh
I agree ur getting acted out on right now. Best thing you can do is talk directly to sauce. He’s a good human being. Get him at the right time and you can have a discussion with him. You both need to be in the right frame of mind though. Because you both can be hotheads to be completely honest with you. Best of luck.
The main reason why I dont PvP is because I wanna avoid getting banned. I've been softbanned before because I wont a PvP match against some salty loser that reported me. It was cleared up, because it was bs, but that was just some small nobody. Now you got some bigwigs with the power to just report someone, and if their fans see this, they're just gonna mass report that poor sod too because "Oh my favorite content creator was insulted" blahblahblah.
Congratulations to the people who wanna revive PvP by driving away any potential newcomers just cause they dont wanna see someone get salty and get banned for it. See this is stupid. Big PvP players keep advocating to bring back the "good old days of PvP" and want more players, but then when they get a bad match, they just do things that kicks or bans new players, incentivizing them to NOT wanna PvP. Congratulations. All that accomplishes is letting only toxic people into your game mode because they hate PvPers.
You know what... To all the big people that say KI is killing PvP. Nu-uh... When you act like this, then it's YOU guys that kill PvP.
I dont even play PvP and even I can smell this is BS.
Yeah honestly him coming into your server just to flame you was just uncalled for and I never expected that out of Sauce. Also idk why it's so hard for him to believe you were watching Val play Beastmoon, she was literally streaming it until her Twitch and RUclips decided to die for no reason 😭.
Sauce is a whiner. If it's another RUclipsr, I'm genuinely not surprised.
i don’t play wiz or watch wiz content anymore, but i love to see people telling sauce he’s just a shitter and needs to chill the fuck out. almost every time i’ve gone to one of his streams he’s bitching about people sniping him and victimizing himself. for anyone who still plays the game, just don’t queue when sauce is playing, he’ll most likely try and run you out of the game
oh i also want to say, i saw the match, sauce literally accused him of sniping before the match even started. the moment he and liahm entered the duel circle he was already complaining. this dude really thinks he’s such a huge content creator and everyone’s out to get him that he gets mad at people for even getting him in pvp. all he wants in pvp are shitty players he can talk shit about, whenever it’s a balanced matchup he starts whining
Same. I just watch sauces vods sometimes and i skip forward to see if he lost. If he lost and is raging I’ll watch the game lmao. I don’t do that to other streamers, but after how sauce has treated me and others in this community it gives me entertainment to watch him rage at the state of the game he yesmanned into existence
exactly he never disagrees with kingsisle and then when the game is stupid he spends several hours complaining about it on stream
sauce was saying how Liam was quiet and didn't talk back, but failed to realize if he did talk back during the stream sauce and friends would cook him alive lmaoo
I've been watching him for the past 8 years, and he's been my wizard101 idol since 2015. I hate drama of any type, and coming from another community with nothing but drama day in and day out, it's sad to see that people are willing to blow something as small as a few set shields out of proportion.
Bro you are actually good at the game sauce plays meta in order to win while cheating by having extra eyes from chat telling him what to use and sauce has snipped me twice before I can literally go and find the video on his channel id say just don’t give him no more attention it isn’t worth it 🤷🏽♂️ everyone knows u are in top 10 player in world category they fear u
braah come back 2 wiz I havent seen u on for abt a year now
It's good that you're trying to improve.
I’m only again Sauce cause his stitches are so insanely ugly they offend my gay eyes
During Pride month , this is crazy .
nothing you are saying is wrong but overall the heat on sauce is blown out of proportion
we know that his accusations were wrong but in his point of view, someone counters his every move as he is streaming. he's not wrong for having claimed u were setting. its probably the smartest thing someone in his position could realize actually, but obviously it ended up being wrong in the end.
there's not much that can be done about this. the fans can fuck off though. sauce doesn't need to tone it down or apologize. there's really nothing besides him maybe considering once in a while that not every match that has him countered all the time is someone who set for him.
Ain't no way u played in the kitchen
That’s the danger of calling anyone a sniper it is a risk. People can get banned/sanctioned when they never actually did anything.
if your back up by joining false accusation your just as bad as torn staffs losers
I watch both of you for Wiz content. Can you explain why you were in the chat watching his RUclips stream while fighting him?
That's not what happened. Read the pinned comment
@@liahmisavibe After sauce tagged you in the stream, someone else tried and were unable to. It seems kinda weird that you left at that time. Anyways, only you know what you did so.
@@rakeempoleon5120 read the top pinned comment and watch the video dude
@@liahmisavibe Liam I've read the pinned comment and watched the video. You did not address the question that I'm asking. When I was watching the stream, it seemed you left the chat after you were tagged because others were trying to tag you and could not. It just seems a bit weird to leave at that exact moment. Like I said earlier, only you know what you did so..
Could you not work it out with sauce cause yall are one of the 4 horsemen in pvp for wiz other from blaze
Exactly. The two of them need to talk directly and in private and work it out. This is just so silly.
@@TigerLily408 sauce said they dm but it was not a real convo
@@TigerLily408 hello I have dmed sauce before! he does not respond to stuff like this if you are not telling him that you are in the wrong
I messaged him so many times THEN and NOW, and he WON'T listen. So I had to make a video since he's trying to ruin my credibility and not listen to the TRUTH.
@@liahmisavibe sad to hear brother cause I respect both of you guys in the community just hope yall find a way to work things out cause this community is toxic enough already
I'm just a small creator! But i don't pay him no mind!
Sauce fans are virgins. Sauce acts like one too lmao.
so you’re allowed to accuse people of sniping, but sauce isnt?🤣
beef in a kids card game lol
Bro grow up the game ain’t for kids now find me a child that can climb to warlord in pvp I’ll wait
@AlbertRackzz420-uq2qq The game is literally marketed for kids, bro. U trying to deny that?
Also, you'd be surprised how good kids can get at video games.
bruh you're deleting comments you know u snipped him and he has proof that's so sad you have to lie like this.
False and false, I could remove this comment for spreading misinformation but I’m not going to because I’m not fake. :)
Brother, you realize that sauce calls literally everyone that beats him sniping set or playing better schools right? Like he can't take an L it's okay, you are just another Sauce drone roaming the planet, learn that everyone has a way to play the game, Liahm literally played that game WITH THE SAME EXACT DECK he runs EVERY FREAKING DAY on STREAM.
this kinda bold to say when sauce has like 3 videos about someone stream sniping them but left out his DMs to the player where he was legitimately bullying them. also, youtube comments disappear all the time, my own comments disappear on the regular