WIIM Just Destroyed High End Audio with this Free Update

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  • @cheapaudioman
    @cheapaudioman  24 дня назад +10

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    • @tealtonerick6345
      @tealtonerick6345 23 дня назад

      It's NOT available on the Pro/Plus on Android! There are millions of us who will NEVER use apple. So no it is NOT currently available!

  • @DeadVidsUSA
    @DeadVidsUSA 24 дня назад +149

    Note to Android users: Borrow an iPhone, get the Wiim Home app for it, do the correction, and Wiim saves it to your Wiim device. It will now show up as a custom PEQ setting in the Wiim home app in Android. You just need the iPhone to do the initial correction.

    • @anonimushbosh
      @anonimushbosh 24 дня назад +8

      Will an iPad do or does it have to be iPhone?

    • @nooneusesthisname
      @nooneusesthisname 24 дня назад +4

      I was just coming to say this must be iPhone only for now, I don't have it room correction on Android app version 2.10.4.240710.ebc096

    • @jackrosati1438
      @jackrosati1438 23 дня назад +20

      Unfortunately it will probably never come to Android due to the inconsistency in microphones used across Android devices. I wish they would make it available for select Android devices at least. Like Samsung Galaxy S and Pixels

    • @mikecampbell5856
      @mikecampbell5856 23 дня назад +1

      Wow. Thanks for the helpful tip!

    • @RenePolster
      @RenePolster 23 дня назад +15

      iPad works!!!!!!

  • @antoniosalles3134
    @antoniosalles3134 23 дня назад +27

    This is one of the main reasons I follow the cheap audio man. This update made a huge difference in my small room with nodes in the 46 and 56 Hz that needed up to 10 db of correction. Thanks!

    • @JamesHwang
      @JamesHwang 23 дня назад +1

      Were those dips or peaks that were corrected?

    • @ThePupil
      @ThePupil 23 дня назад

      Most likely peaks.

    • @antoniosalles3134
      @antoniosalles3134 22 дня назад

      I have a very small listening room. It has room nodes at about 46 and 55 Hz. These are peaks. I have modest room treatment but it is not enough to remove those peaks. I used to use a subwoofer to mitigate some of those peaks (it actually works to level out room modes). My ONLY comment to room correction is that I did notice that the sound was more compressed or a bit "digitazed.". All rooms have modes. I do prefer the unfiltered output at lower volumes, without any EQ. It sounds more natural and analog.

  • @bernardocases
    @bernardocases 23 дня назад +15

    Also works in the WIIM Amp, i just updated mine.. blown away with the difference... sound 100% better after the room correction! Also helped me tune my subwoofer output because its terribly hard to EQ by ear bookshelf speakers + and active subweefer so they all sounds like one orchestra

    • @ekacp
      @ekacp 23 дня назад +1

      thanks, about to ask the question you answer :D

    • @CasparvanderLinden
      @CasparvanderLinden 20 дней назад +1

      Funny enough on my first calibration run with my WiiM Amp I was a bit underwhelmed.
      But ran it again, starting with a decent volume on the Amp. Difference of night and day...

    • @adrianred236
      @adrianred236 День назад

      Hi, Is that a particular model of WIIM amp?

  • @Hoochkin
    @Hoochkin 24 дня назад +31

    Tried to find the Room Correction on my Android app, looks like it may just be available on the Wiim iOS apps at this time. But after using my wife's phone, worked like a dream and definitely made a difference!....just saw the end of the video and you said it.

    • @sneakyds
      @sneakyds 24 дня назад +3

      They’re opening a beta for this in the coming weeks

    • @j-rod6420
      @j-rod6420 24 дня назад +1

      Yeah, but you have to listen to "see iPhones are better" 😆

    • @UlTiReV
      @UlTiReV 23 дня назад +1

      This is why you buy your wives the expensive stuff haha. Same situation for me. Gotta be nice and swipe that iphone for the correction bit soon.

    • @SimplestUsername
      @SimplestUsername 14 дней назад

      The phone microphone needs to be corrected to operate as a reference microphone. Unfortunately, there's too large a variety of Android devices for a small compney to do that.
      Maybe we may see some Samsung app availability but I doubt we will see much more.

  • @timbacchus
    @timbacchus 24 дня назад +10

    I love how you correct yourself on the screen. You sure do remind me of me. I am so thankful you are on RUclips.

  • @davidprather9079
    @davidprather9079 23 дня назад +5

    Just performed room correction with my WiiM Pro. Amazing! Thanks again for the heads up😃

  • @Kadomount
    @Kadomount 24 дня назад +36

    I would bet that the reason it only works on iPhone is because there's only a limited set of microphone calibrations that they have to generate and store in the software. As opposed to Android where there have to be hundreds if not thousands of microphone calibrations they would have to make and store away. What would be really nice, is if they allowed you to click a button for Android to say that you're using a calibrated microphone like the one you can get from parts Express for $20 or so.

    • @WireHedd
      @WireHedd 24 дня назад +6

      You are absolutely correct. My shop repairs Apple products and I've spoken to a few folks about this and your deduction is absolutely spot on.

    • @sneakyds
      @sneakyds 24 дня назад +7

      An Android beta will kick off in a few weeks time

    • @innovate.integrate.transfo6169
      @innovate.integrate.transfo6169 24 дня назад +3

      Or, build a calibration tool right into the app. I know, dreaming. But not too bad.

    • @white.lodge.dale.cooper
      @white.lodge.dale.cooper 24 дня назад +2

      @@sneakyds How will they support all the different models?

    • @tomf1dublin1
      @tomf1dublin1 23 дня назад

      Yup - you are absolutely correct . Hit nail right on the head

  • @davekey2687
    @davekey2687 23 дня назад +6

    Thank you so very much for bringing this feature of my Wiim Pro to my attention. I had no idea that a feature I wanted badly from the Wiim Pro Ultra was already available on my Wiim Pro. I have a very small space and this new feature was transformative. My booming bass went away. My shrill highs went away. My system sounds 100% better.

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  • @peterelliott2914
    @peterelliott2914 23 дня назад +8

    Hi Randy. If you go to the EQ settings after you've done the room correction (it shows auto and has the parametric eq settings derived from the correction), you can swipe up and get the specific settings for 10 frequencies. From there you can change the filter, frequency, gain and Q factor (what is that...) for each of the 10 frequencies and save it with a custom name. Then if you change the room treatment - ie close the curtains, you can just use the saved eq setting for that room. It is a great tool! And with tweaking I got it even better by injecting extra loudness for the quiet times and various custom eq settings for various music.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  23 дня назад +4

      Wow. That’s awesome. Thanks for diving deeper

    • @NukePooch1
      @NukePooch1 23 дня назад +4

      Q is basically the filter bandwidth in an EQ. A high Q is a narrow notch filter, while a low Q is a wide one.

    • @peterelliott2914
      @peterelliott2914 23 дня назад

      @@NukePooch1 Thanks! I can see how that'd be quite handy.

    • @aammdj
      @aammdj 17 дней назад

      I am officially dizzy with all these options!

  • @randymeinholdt4401
    @randymeinholdt4401 24 дня назад +5

    Randy, I saw this on the Livestream yesterday and tried it on the Pro....it made a great difference in my room...I have a Mini in the bedroom system and will move the Pro there and order an Ultra for the main listening area....Great company Wiim thanks for getting out the word so quickly

  • @griffith4830
    @griffith4830 23 дня назад +4

    Did the room correction - shockingly it actually worked.
    My amp is dialled in and the listening experience improved.

  • @VinylNerdDesign
    @VinylNerdDesign 24 дня назад +7

    Couldn't do it with my Android phone but whipped out my iPad and it worked perfectly! Very cool! Thanks for the heads up!

    • @blairboyle2476
      @blairboyle2476 20 дней назад

      This is perfect, Thanks for that info.

  • @tanachip
    @tanachip 24 дня назад +18

    WiiM is such a great company!

    • @ericksonjustinAK
      @ericksonjustinAK 13 дней назад

      Now I'm starting to wonder what's in it for WiiM. We would all love to believe that they just want to disrupt the industry, innovate, and make more in volume. Perhaps that is the case. But in this day and age we should always be asking companies if they are just giving us chicken feed so that they can sell our eggs of private and personal information to other companies.

    • @tanachip
      @tanachip 13 дней назад

      @@ericksonjustinAK They are a software company at heart, as they also license their software to other manufacturers.

  • @curiositatibus2846
    @curiositatibus2846 22 дня назад +2

    Make sure the correct curve is used. Harman and B&K are for headphones, not loudspeakers. Not sure why these have been included for speaker correction. Try Flat first.

  • @fredoswego
    @fredoswego 24 дня назад +15

    I've read that the reason some of these room correction software pkgs only work on iphones is that the software knows exactly what's in a given iphone. There aren't dozens of variations of microphones like there are in the android world. I guess they could make software that only works on whatever the biggest android model their is but instead they just seem to move on.

    • @yonkocommander5531
      @yonkocommander5531 24 дня назад +1

      There’s no single Android phone model that’s sold enough to justify the development cost, even phones released the same year by the same company have different mic specs, ex: Samsung S24 Ultra and Fold 5, you would need a different algorithm for for both

  • @user-mz6lt2pr9s
    @user-mz6lt2pr9s 24 дня назад +3

    Wiim is helping to set the high bar for affordable audio equipment. I’ve used Sonos TruePlay with my Sonos systems. You have to walk around with your iPhone and it listens and adjusts the settings. I have a Wiim with my old 2 channel amp setup thats running a pair of indoor speakers and a 3 speaker rock speaker system in the yard. I just used the room correction inside with my Pro Plus. Very cool. Rock on!

  • @caseydog237
    @caseydog237 23 дня назад +6

    I did it a week or so ago with my WIIM Amp. It’s a pretty significant difference in an 12 x 13 room with carpet and lots of sweet framed concert posters and framed concert pics I’ve taken over the last 20ish years. Now get me LOSSLESS Apple Music playback!!!!!

    • @mehome-ty4yi
      @mehome-ty4yi 23 дня назад +2

      It ain’t lossless if you’re using AirPlay 2.

    • @alangroskreutz235
      @alangroskreutz235 20 дней назад

      I was just going to ask if it worked with the Amp. Cool!

    • @ericksonjustinAK
      @ericksonjustinAK 13 дней назад

      Or just ditch Apple Music. Qobuz even has a free tool that grabs your playlists from other streaming services. Not sure if it works with Apple Music though, but if it doesn't I'm sure there is some other tool that will. I'm an iPhone user, but I avoid Apple Music because of Apple's proprietary business practices that cause problems just like you have with WiiM.

  • @teck13
    @teck13 23 дня назад +2

    Holy _________, this was so easy to use and transformed my higher end sound system. Toned down the infamous B&W tweeter and it found my missing low bass. Not perfect but huge improvement. Thanks for alerting us to this free amazement.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 23 дня назад

      And you can still go in there and tweak it. Just save the original setting and you are good.

  • @trevorbartram5473
    @trevorbartram5473 23 дня назад

    Hi Randy, so did the room correction improve the sound? I'm skeptical because I did my own experiments using an online tone generator & my RadioShack sound level meter. With a slow frequency ramping tone the sound levels were all over the place (>+/-6dB). Levels changed greatly with meter location. I tried one speaker at a time then both speakers, same result. What does the room correction SW do that's different from my experiment?

  • @darranmoore
    @darranmoore 24 дня назад +1

    I’ve done room correction using Room Curve app and importing the generated wav files to Roon’s convolution filters feature and makes an incredible improvement. This sounds great on a hardware device to apply to other sources than my Roon streaming

  • @paulcookson5091
    @paulcookson5091 24 дня назад +5

    Just want to clarify something. Do you need to use the dac in the wiim pro or does it process the sound and pass that out to another dac if you have one?

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 24 дня назад +4

      You can use it either was depending on if you use digital outs
      Or analog ( analog would use the sabre dac in the ultra)

    • @angelOcrisu
      @angelOcrisu 24 дня назад +1

      It sends the digital unprocessed signal through coax and optical. I don't use it's internal dac because it's bad.

    • @paulcookson5091
      @paulcookson5091 24 дня назад

      ​@@Audiodreamer192-24 Thanks Thats what I hoped for. I'll try it out.

    • @paulcookson5091
      @paulcookson5091 24 дня назад

      @@Audiodreamer192-24 Thanks Thats what I hoped for. I'll try it out.

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 24 дня назад

      @@paulcookson5091 no worries 🍻

  • @stevezeidman7224
    @stevezeidman7224 24 дня назад +1

    Thanks for updating us on this function. I’m about to try it out!

  • @wils2l
    @wils2l 23 дня назад +1

    Hey man, awesome video as always! I just tried that on my Wii amp and it worked perfectly!

  • @johnbrender7635
    @johnbrender7635 24 дня назад +8

    I wish I would have waited for this before I purchased the Bluesound Node. I needed that HDMI and WiiM did not offer that at the time. I already have a WiiM Pro Plus and love it.

    • @Marzen216
      @Marzen216 24 дня назад +1

      I'm confused, the Bluesound Node 2i doesn't have an HDMI port. Do you think the Wiim sounds better than your Node 2i? thanks

    • @ScheleIndiaan
      @ScheleIndiaan 23 дня назад

      Node N130 does have HDMI inputs ​@@Marzen216

    • @ScheleIndiaan
      @ScheleIndiaan 23 дня назад +1

      @johnbrender7635 Your BluOS has an EQ for low and high frequencies.
      NodeN130 has HDMI input.

  • @randomsuper
    @randomsuper 23 дня назад +6

    tried it out. made my set up sound worse to my ears. time to start tinkering to see if i can make it better. still an awesome free update.

    • @SR-7142
      @SR-7142 20 дней назад

      @@randomsuper same, made my speakers sound fizzy and thin.

    • @WoodyONeal
      @WoodyONeal 12 дней назад

      same here

  • @dtape
    @dtape 24 дня назад +3

    On Android VS iPhone, on the WiiM Amp road map for upcoming features there's a note about Android support for room correction coming to the WiiM Amp soon.
    Maybe Android room correction support will eventually come to the WiiM Pro/Pro+ models too.

  • @foblivio
    @foblivio 23 дня назад +1

    Thanks for the heads up on the new feature. Does the room EQ only work if you use the WiiM’s DAC/analog out? Ultimately, my question is whether the EQ is applied to its digital outs as well?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  23 дня назад +4

      Yeah. I was running it digital out when I ran the test

  • @RenePolster
    @RenePolster 23 дня назад +6

    I made it on my IPad and it works fine. Most of my Roomproblems are gone with it. And rhe Rest i can do manually on my Amp. Works great!!!!!!!

    • @deadline7610
      @deadline7610 22 дня назад

      Thanks for sharing.
      Is the ipad using wifi or bluetooth with the app. ?
      Thanks

    • @RenePolster
      @RenePolster 22 дня назад

      @@deadline7610 i think its wifi but not shure. But i think that dosent matter. You have to connect the App with the Device and than you can run thru the Setup

  • @jaylundgreen
    @jaylundgreen 15 дней назад

    When I set this up with a subwoofer, connected via the LFE out on the wiim amp and into the line input on the sub, will that ignore the crossover knob position on the sub so that the crossover setting on the amp is used? Or do I set the knob on my sub to be at the highest frequency, but then set my preferred frequency via the wiim amp phone app?

  • @stevem4413
    @stevem4413 23 дня назад

    Randy, You have made me a Wiim believer and a Geshelli believer. Now this update makes them sound even more incredible. And for FREE! Thank you for this info. Keep on rockin.

  • @buenahora001
    @buenahora001 16 дней назад

    Noob question - does the room correction only work if you’re using the built in DAC on the WiiM or will it also work if you have an external DAC connected?

  • @sopasadena1499
    @sopasadena1499 23 дня назад

    Just updated the wiim app and ran room correction. Got crazy plus minus 5 db or more adjustments across the band. Don’t know if these corrections and due to the room or speakers or both. The wiim says the response is emphasized in the mid and high band with a dip around 2k. My room is a highly reflective small office with a lot of stuff in it. Now I wonder if i need an EQ. This exercise added more information but did add to my confusion greatly

  • @worthingtonmodelrailway8628
    @worthingtonmodelrailway8628 21 день назад

    Couldn’t find it at first, then realized needed to update the app not the WiiM - love the result! Thanks for the info!

  • @WireHedd
    @WireHedd 24 дня назад +15

    Absolutely love it. Free stuff is cool but this is extra cool free stuff.
    Just so folks understand why this isn't on Android is due to the very wide variance in microphones across hundreds of different lines. Apple has a very specific set of microphones in their models which all have very specific and predictable responses and measurements.
    Excellent video, thanks Randy.

  • @psykoguy21
    @psykoguy21 24 дня назад +1

    I had no idea this feature was coming. What an incredible surprise! It legitimately works on the Wiim Amp and I prefer the EQ profile it generates. I wish it was available on the Wiim Mini, but I can understand why it's not. Guess I'll have to upgrade to the Wiim Pro at some point...

  • @TariqGibran
    @TariqGibran 23 дня назад +2

    Agree, Wiim does continue to raise the bar through their amazing software updates. Been using this room correction on the Wiim Pro Plus for about a month. Fixed a major room bass boom issue around 60-70 hz. In experimenting with the correction, I found it worked best for me to use the correction as a base setting and then tweak it to preference (I typically boost the treble end quite a bit). Also, I suspect one should REMOVE their phone case before using the correction. The phone case might affect off angle high frequencies possibly? Nice Leica Q! you casually flash btw.

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 23 дня назад

    I’m assuming this only works if you’re running through the Wiim pro or pro plus. So playing cds or records, no joy. Will this work with the new wiim ultra if I run all of my sources through it?

  • @epg2501
    @epg2501 12 дней назад

    Can you run the room correction while using an external dac? If not, do you run it direct, do room correction, then hook up the external dac? Also, can you use the EQ with an external dac? Thanks!

  • @davidperson777
    @davidperson777 23 дня назад +1

    I found it to be similar in function to YPOA on Yamaha 2 channel receivers, at least in terms of the actual sampling of the room. The WiiM app allowed much more flexibility in adjusting the results.

  • @bpalpha
    @bpalpha 23 дня назад

    I run both A+B speakers on my Denon stereo receiver. Should I leave all four speakers, I have a sub too, playing for the room correction software to "correct"? Never thought I'd see affordable room correction software in my system.

  • @philippefenain4405
    @philippefenain4405 24 дня назад +1

    If I understand correctly, this is an EQ room correction which is fine but not at par with Dirac Live or (even better) Lyngdorf tdai-1120 that correct also phase/timing and (for the latter) subwoofer integration. Kind of REW integration. Which again is great for the cost.

  • @becauseiwasinverted5100
    @becauseiwasinverted5100 20 дней назад

    I have a pair of Polk Audio Rtia9's hooked up to a turntable. Which would you think would be a better amp. fosi ZA3 or Wiim Amp?

  • @steddygolf6749
    @steddygolf6749 17 дней назад

    Thank you for great content and recommendations. I just purchased a WiiM Pro Plus to replace my older 10 year old Arcam rBlink Bluetooth Receiver/Emotiva DAC combination running into a Jolida FX10 Tube Amp. The sound from running the WiiM Pro Plus directly through the Amp is much improved. ??? Would running the WiiM through the Emotiva DAC improve the sound even more. Love to hear your thoughts?

  • @thomasfalk8414
    @thomasfalk8414 14 дней назад

    A general question about the Wiim Pro. When used as a pure streamer and passing the signal to an external dac: is the Pro capable of streaming 768 kHz/32 Bit to the external dac? Or to ask the question differently - is the dac in the Pro the bottleneck in comparison to the Wiim Pro Plus or brings the streaming unit in the Pro restrictions in respect to bit rate?

  • @jaimiejenson7784
    @jaimiejenson7784 24 дня назад +2

    Hey Randy…I see Lenbrook has fairly recently announced that they will be putting Dirac into the new Bluesound Node. Should be interesting. Thanks for all you do!

  • @nathanguilford2387
    @nathanguilford2387 7 дней назад

    Question out of nowhere! I need your help! I'm in an office situation where the music is amplified through the building and I need a standalone streamer that'll run Spotify all by itself (not connect). Does this exist??? or should I just run an ipad into a preamp? Thank you thank you thank you. not a patreon, but a long time watcher and liker!

  • @Freedom89984
    @Freedom89984 15 дней назад +1

    The Wiim room correction isn’t a real hifi solution at this moment. Tested it and I prefer the sound without rc. Not because my listening room is perfect, but the Wiim rc changes the voices to unnatural voice characteristics. It’s very complicated to correct your room acoustics, so it can’t be done very well in this way too simple manner. Update: Wiim is constantly upgrading the room correction function. I must say the latest version is a big improvement. Not that I think it’s better than without rc, but it’s getting certainly better with every update. A good external microphone should help also I guess.

  • @don7680
    @don7680 24 дня назад +4

    WiiM makes great stuff for really cheap, and their updates and help (if needed) is quite unique. Great job WiiM.

    • @Kleyworks
      @Kleyworks 24 дня назад +1

      Indeed. They deserve some respect for this. Others can be 'elite; or difficult to understand what works well together. WiiM makes this possible. I love it.

    • @leecooper8589
      @leecooper8589 23 дня назад +2

      I couldn't agree more; A company that doesn't just take your money and then forget about you, one that also appears to listen to customers when developing new products. I also strongly suspect that there won't be the built in redundancy you see with certain companies when new products come out and suddenly earlier ones are no longer supported. I'll definitely be picking up an ultra for my Living room and then my mini, external DAC and amp ect and all those cables can move to a different room where W.A.F (Wife approval factor) is much less of an issue.

  • @dasieser
    @dasieser 22 дня назад

    My system is based on an Anthem MRX 1120 which corrects my system with ARC Genesis. How would using the WIIM room correction be an improvement?

  • @StephenFinkNRP
    @StephenFinkNRP 23 дня назад

    Glad I saw your video. Just downloaded the update and set up room correction. I really love my WIIM Pro.

  • @GrayWolfe-34
    @GrayWolfe-34 24 дня назад +11

    Hey Randy, I always enjoy your content. I'm confused why you did not give the Gentleman the credit for telling you about the room correction on the Willm Pro? On yesterday's live stream? Because if I noticed it Surely other people will too. Plus It's just the right thing to do!

    • @ten132
      @ten132 23 дня назад +1

      @@GrayWolfe-34 hear hear.

    • @CrashTestingAudio
      @CrashTestingAudio 22 дня назад

      Agreed. He didn’t find it himself. An audience member did and it would have been a) more authentic and b) a nod to why it’s good to be a community member.
      Slimy move.

    • @ConsecDesign
      @ConsecDesign 21 день назад

      @@CrashTestingAudio lemme get this straight: you want him to credit some rando for pointing him to publicly available information? and if he doesn't, it's "slimy"? what is "slimy" about it?

    • @CrashTestingAudio
      @CrashTestingAudio 21 день назад +2

      @@ConsecDesign yes. Easy enough. I was there for the live session. He made a big deal about thanking this guy for pointing out that this was available. He was shocked and really excited. Instead of giving a viewer credit and plugging the value of this community, he fabricated a completely different moment. If you lie about the little things when you don’t need to, you lie about the big things. That’s how morals and ethics work.

    • @bruceevans3746
      @bruceevans3746 20 дней назад

      While I agree that sounds nice, none of us has a clue how another person’s mind works or the thought process one goes thru.
      If you’ve followed Randy for a while, you might allow for the fact that he had just finished thanking someone profusely on the livestream and had placed a check in that box, followed by his desire to quickly get information out.
      Please Grace others with an allowance for the imperfections of humanity.

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 23 дня назад

    Mine, the room correction, popped up a few weeks ago on my WiiM Pro, and it worked!

  • @redogfizbal
    @redogfizbal 17 дней назад

    Does the room correction work with the digital outputs, or just analog?

  • @worthingtonmodelrailway8628
    @worthingtonmodelrailway8628 18 дней назад

    I recently swapped out a 20+ year old Denon amp driving my Cambridge audio speakers on the deck at my lake cabin with a WiiM amp. I was a little disappointed with the sound stage! I wondered what the room settings would do with an outdoor environment. Wow it opened up the sound stage in an unbelievable way. Never heard music this “alive” outside before! Amazing!!!

  • @SoCalVipers
    @SoCalVipers 18 дней назад

    Can you save and easily recall EQ presets? I'd love to have a flat EQ curve when I am alone and want the best sound, and then an alternate EQ setting with all of the mids hacked out so it's easier to talk when background music is playing.

  • @simonmcallister2769
    @simonmcallister2769 20 дней назад

    Cheap but extremely cheerful...many thanks for keeping us updated re all of the Wiim content. A fabulous channel, sir!

  • @Unythios
    @Unythios 21 день назад

    Does the room correction only work when using the Wiims DAC, or does it work just using it as the transport and using an external DAC?

  • @jallen1227
    @jallen1227 24 дня назад +5

    I miss the Crutchfield catalog from my college days in the late '80s

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 23 дня назад +1

    Randy, thanks for checking on the Wiim Mini so I didn't drive myself crazy trying it myself! LOL

  • @tonyduddy568
    @tonyduddy568 19 дней назад

    I have a really really dumb question - currently I stream my music from my phone Spotify thru Chromecast audio to my amp... will something like this Wiim Ultra really make that much difference ?

  • @Brian_Romska
    @Brian_Romska 24 дня назад +1

    Cool thanks as always Randy! I’ve got the WiiM amp and an iPhone 14 so I tried this a few days ago when it was released and it makes it sound like there’s a blanket (or 2) over my speakers. I tried it several times with each curve and it gets a significantly different looking measurement every time and always sounds bad, I have def tech bipolar towers so maybe that’s the issue? Still cool that this exists and I assume they’ll be updating this feature like they do with everything else so I’ll give it another shot on the next update and try some basic bookshelves too, thanks again!

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 11 дней назад

      It did the exact oppoiste for me and lifted the blankets on my bookshelf speakers, so it could be your bipolars

  • @joffieberkowitz9845
    @joffieberkowitz9845 19 дней назад

    Hi, thanks for this. Can you set the room correction to only reduce peaks but not boost dips? Thanks

  • @richh650
    @richh650 21 день назад

    Crutchfield has been a great retailer for decades that I have used often with great results. Glad to see them supporting your channel. WIIM adding DSP for masses. I LOVE IT!!!!

  • @corymarcotte5853
    @corymarcotte5853 24 дня назад +5

    It wouldn’t hurt to let people know why it only works on the iPhone. It’s because the iPhone has a consistent mic in the phone. Androids mic’s are all over the place. Iwoofer is a similar DSP. All though it’s focused on the bass. It to only works with the iPhone. If the fact that iPhone is holding one back. Your options are miniDSP with an external mic. Be ready to pay about $1000 for this option.

    • @Prezbylewski
      @Prezbylewski 24 дня назад +1

      or borrow a friend's iPad

    • @dtape
      @dtape 23 дня назад

      ​@@Prezbylewskithat's an easy solution. Only need to use a friend's iPad one time.

    • @lokerola
      @lokerola 23 дня назад

      He said it at about 13:20

  • @kfk4life
    @kfk4life 23 дня назад

    Do we know if the room correction is going to be on the Wiim Amp as well?

  • @dimth-l5x
    @dimth-l5x 24 дня назад +2

    Nice video as always!!!! But you have not review the Unico primo as I can remember. So which is your opinion about this amp?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  23 дня назад +2

      It’s coming. Spoiler. It’s awesome

    • @saieva
      @saieva 23 дня назад +1

      @@cheapaudioman Perfect, and can't wait! I heard this amp at CAF 2023 and I'm coveting it for my next upgrade.

  • @timbacchus
    @timbacchus 24 дня назад +4

    I would guess that when using your cell phone for this correction you need to hold it upside down so that the mike will face the speakers.

    • @Kleyworks
      @Kleyworks 24 дня назад +2

      I too would think to direct it similar to a special mic towards the sound.

  • @stevehamper4533
    @stevehamper4533 4 дня назад

    I'm over in the UK and I've just purchased the Wiim Amp today being delivered tomorrow 😀
    It arrived today
    Friday 2nd August and it has given my Q Acoustics 3050 a wake up call, as they sound more alive now

  • @ruud6899
    @ruud6899 23 дня назад

    Does it work under 40hz? I have a huge rise around 32-33hz at my lp, which id like to tackle...

  • @noahman27
    @noahman27 23 дня назад

    I don't understand how it can use the microphone on your cell phone to do the room correction. It's not microphone designed for that application. Randy, or anyone else...do you have any insight into this?

  • @patrickthompson990
    @patrickthompson990 23 дня назад

    I’ve been looking into getting a streamer for my setup, I currently have a NAD c316BEE v2 and was wondering if, with something like the WIIM, I would need to add anything else to make it work. I don’t know a lot about the technical stuff, and I love your channel so I thought I would ask.

  • @johnkirk3808
    @johnkirk3808 24 дня назад +2

    Available for WiiM Amp as well... Coming to Android within weeks also.... Plus, I'd love to see a review of JBL 104 with a WiiM Mini. Brilliant small room extension. Lost a set of these to an ex girlfriend. Superb sound (no bass extension but everything else is sooooo good for the money)

  • @jim010109
    @jim010109 24 дня назад +1

    This wouldnt be a deal breaker for me, but i gotta ask. Will the new Ultra have screen options, like VU meters or a equalizer screen?

    • @sneakyds
      @sneakyds 24 дня назад +1

      VU meter yes, Eq preset selection only

    • @jim010109
      @jim010109 23 дня назад

      Cool! ​@@sneakyds

  • @MikeDS49
    @MikeDS49 24 дня назад +2

    It would be cool if the WIIM could also use a PEQ correction curve generated with a calibrated external mic plus REW on a laptop, in addition to the one generated byt the app.

    • @emilioyanguez8106
      @emilioyanguez8106 21 день назад +2

      Hi there! This can be already done. Perform your measurements with REW and your microphone of choice. When applying EQ in REW, select "Configurable PEQ" in the "Equaliser selection" and set it up to match the characteristics of the WiiM PEQ (in terms of number of channels, gain range and so on). Let REW do the magic and manually enter the values in the PEQ section of the WiiM. Cheers!

    • @MikeDS49
      @MikeDS49 21 день назад

      @@emilioyanguez8106 Sweet! Thanks for this Emilio! This could get even better results with a calibrated mic (that at least one hifi wonk friend has and can lend out)

  • @xlr82bgr8
    @xlr82bgr8 15 дней назад

    When taking the sound measurement with the test signal, does it also take into consideration my listening position? I have to ask because my Stereolith Loudspeaker is quite unique in how it produces a three dimensional and holographic imaging, and it doesn’t matter where you are in the room, or even another room! To an extent. So I’m hoping this room correction is for the accoustic only. And not for my listening position..

    • @xlr82bgr8
      @xlr82bgr8 15 дней назад

      Forgot to mention that is in fact just one loudspeaker, not two.

  • @mitchellregenbogen7173
    @mitchellregenbogen7173 22 дня назад

    Does the room correction work with digital out?

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 24 дня назад +1

    I’m running the OG Wiim Pro ..feeding optically my Denafrips Ares DAC …and I’m good 👍

  • @EmylPangan
    @EmylPangan 23 дня назад

    Hi Randy, good video as always!!
    Have you reviewed any Fyne audio speakers before? They are new kid in town. Hoping to get reviews from your channel.
    More power!

  • @markettel9935
    @markettel9935 23 дня назад +2

    A lot of software that uses the phone's microphone to do measurements only work on an iPhone. The reason is all iPhones are made by apple and there is guaranteed consistency using the mic. Android phones are made by many different manufactures and all the mics are different, so it's not possible to keep up with all the possible combinations of microphones and processing on every different Android phone.

    • @usefulrandom1855
      @usefulrandom1855 23 дня назад

      True but they could use a well-regarded USB mic that Android users could connect to their phones.

    • @peterwalkerden6778
      @peterwalkerden6778 23 дня назад +1

      Or they could run a calibration on the internal mic of each Android phone first. That seems like a simple solution to be able to extend it to any device.

  • @realbigdeals2048
    @realbigdeals2048 23 дня назад

    Huge fan of Randy. Confession: I fond myself chanting Hong Kong Phooey to this music. Now I haven't listened to that theme in quite some time, but this diddy reminds me of how I remember it

  • @leonsam12
    @leonsam12 23 дня назад

    Wow I didn’t know this, can’t wait to try it!! Thanks!! 😎🤘

  • @OOnti-dz4jd
    @OOnti-dz4jd 23 дня назад

    Great video. Will the wiim room correction be necessary with amp with room correction ?

    • @IronHorsey3
      @IronHorsey3 23 дня назад

      Necessary? Unlikely. Comparative, sure. Go ahead and compare.

  • @vrstar_yt3258
    @vrstar_yt3258 10 дней назад

    I have just brought the wiim pro, I didn't think that the room correction would be as good as it is, like holy shht good.
    I have got it running through a Sabaj D5 dac into and Onkyo TX-8150 with a yamaha sub but with a part of 683 Bowers and willkins floor stand speakers. Prior to getting the wiim I thought that it was either I was just didn't have the "that" kind of ear, but I guess I was wrong.
    Night and day differences by a long way. Thanks Randy you are the man 🎉

  • @Labriers
    @Labriers 23 дня назад +1

    My Wiim Ultra shipped last night and Amazon says it'll be here tomorrow!

  • @AdrianBaughan
    @AdrianBaughan 6 дней назад

    I have a fair amount of room treatment already so wasn’t expecting a huge difference. I tried the room correction and honestly it sounds like mush compared to a moderate w shape eq I use. Easy to do though. I’ll try it again with different curve and fiddle with it, perhaps it needs to be flat.

  • @ctbcubed
    @ctbcubed 23 дня назад

    I thought when Wiim added the 10 band parametric EQ that it was a fantastic free upgrade. I used REW and attempted to manually add the filter characteristics into the Wiim, with mixed results. At the time, REW didn't have the Wiim listed as a DSP choice. I won't run out and buy an iPhone or iPad, but I'll bet it won't be long before they release an Android app to use some of the popular calibrated external mics. Should be interesting to see how that compares to my current, albeit convoluted, method.

  • @lanx0003
    @lanx0003 23 дня назад

    I need to you Wiim has also launched the beta version of room correction (RC) in Pro Plus which I owns. I tried it. Many times. The tool feels high tech but the end result is highly contingent on the listening space. The tool can overly correct SPL on some frequency ranges, which could bring some undesired side-effects. You need to correct the acoustic deficiency of the listening space first before using the tool to fine-tune the end result.

  • @AndrewWong08
    @AndrewWong08 23 дня назад

    I am trying to decide between the Hifi Rose, the A8, and Wiim Ultra? Is there a huge difference between them? I am going to guess so because of the vast price difference?

    • @IronHorsey3
      @IronHorsey3 23 дня назад

      Start with a WiiM Pro. I'm using it in a high end tube system.

  • @timfarney4770
    @timfarney4770 21 день назад

    This update is great. It opened up the midrange in my old Klipsch.

  • @bruffyb3796
    @bruffyb3796 23 дня назад

    Looking forward to trying this on my wiim amp thanks for the video.

  • @middleearthltd
    @middleearthltd 24 дня назад +4

    Upfront apologize if I am mistaken, but credit is due where credit is due.
    Did not someone in the chat point that out to you in yesterday’s live ?
    Assuming I remember this correctly, shout out to chat person for that.
    If not, again I apologize.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  24 дня назад +5

      absolutely. I should have been more clear about that

  • @robertthurston6858
    @robertthurston6858 23 дня назад

    Why does my Wiim Pro + only put out 16/44 k from the optical and RCA Digital outputs when streaming Qobuz 24/192 Hi Res or 24/96 ??? When the manual said it’s supposed to Hi Res from this outputs ?

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 23 дня назад +1

      Did you check your settings? Sometimes after a restart, those settings will revert back to the factory settings. Start there.

    • @robertthurston6858
      @robertthurston6858 23 дня назад

      @@michaelwright1602 Ok thanks, I will try that. I left it with a stereo salesman at a high end shop over 3 weeks ago but he hasn't check it out yet.

  • @erichubbs5896
    @erichubbs5896 24 дня назад +1

    Is this update available for the Wiim Amp?

  • @markgire943
    @markgire943 23 дня назад +1

    I plugged my UMIK-1 microphone into my iPhone, and it worked with the room correction software. Much different curve than the iPhone mic. There is no way I've found to apply the UMIK-1 calibration file, but it's still better than the iPhone mic.

    • @sneakyds
      @sneakyds 23 дня назад +1

      Submit a feature request for them to import the calibration file

  • @FoxGhost7
    @FoxGhost7 23 дня назад

    Does the Wiim also feature regular tone controls?

  • @waynethompson4315
    @waynethompson4315 23 дня назад

    Will room correction be available on the Wiim Amp? I didn’t hear it mentioned.

  • @martinsVcm
    @martinsVcm 23 дня назад

    Theoretically, this will also compensate any frequency response from the speakers as well, as the SW doesn't know which speaker you're using. If someone gets a speaker for its color of the sound, this would remove it. Would be fun to try 2 different setups, compensating both and compare how close the final sounds gets.

  • @Hirnlego999
    @Hirnlego999 23 дня назад +1

    The next step should be to release their own microphones with the amps. Place at ear where you sit and measure away