Fascinating episode. As for William Shatner, what a life. He went into space on 13 October 2021, at the age of 90. For real. Shatner became the oldest person to reach the final frontier.
@@wolfshanze5980 : Jeff Bezos needs to start paying tax. Some of his employees live off food stamps. In the meantime, he is bragging about going to Mars.
@@peadarmurray7994 I guess you and I watched completely different videos... while Shattner was practically in tears discussing his experience, Jeff Bezos looked bored and distracted, and in the middle of Shatner's comments, Bezos grabbed a bottle of champagne and started making a mess of things... so yea, I guess he was totally respectful and paying close attention to Shattner... or whatever you thought. I mean, it's on video... you can ignore it if you choose... just like Bezos did to Shattner.
@@wolfshanze5980 Yes it's on video of them both together talking, with shatner telling bezos about his experience while bezos is listening, please do explain how that constitutes ignoring someone
They should have known already. Kirk should have known he would travel back and there would be nothing he could do to change it. :) Yeah I prefer single-timeline solid time travel hypothesis yes.
The Historical Continuity Commission is going to have us all scrubbing toilets for this. Too bad, I was looking forward to vacation in Paris just before the Revolution. We are SO grounded.
@@Enzo-em1te It's really insane when I think how my grandfather was born in 1871. He lived to be 102 years old and passed away in 1973 and he used to talk about how when he was a kid there were still men wearing cowboy six-shooter revolvers. Not as many as you saw in the movies mind you, but it was an aspect of daily life some men still practiced. He said where he lived it didn't die out until sometime in the 1890's, though there were areas of the country where people stopped carrying guns much earlier than that - it all depended what part of the country you lived.
I've always wondered if the writers of this "Star Trek" episode were influenced (consciously or not) by a "Twilight Zone" episode that had aired a few years earlier. Entitled "A Hundred Yards Over The Rim", it starred Cliff Robertson as a Western pioneer in 1849, who is near death from hunger and thirst. Transported (it is never explained how) to 1961, he is assisted by several kind people, and eventually learns from an encyclopedia that his son (who is dying of influenza back in 1849) is destined to be a scientist of some importance. He eventually returns to his own time with a vial of penicillin tablets from 1961, which saves his son's life. In this "Star Trek" episode, Kirk and Company discover that John Christopher has to be returned to HIS time, because his son (whom he hasn't yet fathered) will grow up to be an important scientist. If that plot similarity was a coincidence, it was certainly a striking one.
Me too! dramatic 50's mood lighting combined with late 1960's technicolor. When I lit for Star Trek New Voyages, I always loved when I could do lighting like that.
BTW, there were nuclear tipped air-to-air missiles, meant to detonate in the middle of enemy bomber streams. Though unlikely to be on an aircraft unless at top readiness. So Spock’s statements were accurate.
That's disingenuous. Even if this plane had had nuclear weapons it's unthinkable that this guy would have exceeded his orders by detonating one on his own prerogative over american airspace. Monitoring his communications, the enterprise had the opportunity to wait for the pilot to be given an order to use a nuclear weapon before taking action against it.
I like Kirk's mischievous smile at the pilot's befuddlement, enjoying his moment of superiority and in anticipation of the series of shocks the pilot was about to experience.
Kirk: "You'll have to forgive me - I didn't know that your aircraft couldn't hold up to our tractor beam". Goddammit, Spock TOLD you back up on the bridge this was probably going to happen.
Remember this episode clearly as a young teen. One of my favorites. Ironically I was in the Air Force a few years after this episode actually working with F-104’s in NATO. Seems like yesterday.
This might sound crazy but.......Spock DID mention the the pilot's son Colonel Shaun Christopher led the first Earth/Saturn mission and "Christopher's Landing on Saturn is named in his honor. So that leads to an interesting question. Could the AF pilot, Shaun's father perhaps mentioned it to his son that he had a brief glimpse of "something" with a saucer and two cylindrical projections? Could his son have perhaps used it as a basis for future starship construction? He drew what his father told him about and presented it as perhaps a breakthrough design? Makes you wonder.
Edit: And yes I am aware that the Enterprise was developed centuries after Colonel Christopher. But he could have been responsible for future designs. Even perhaps led very early research into long distance sunlight travel. Warp drive was realized in 2067 and supposedly Christopher's mission was in the 1990's. He might have been very old ,but perhaps he lived long enough to see Chochrane's Warp drive succede.
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 I get that from a literal standpoint, it's just one of those "what if's" it's not a reflection on the lore itself. Nowhere did I say it was, nor was it a reinterpretation of it.
Right! Why in the world would Spock have to ask the captain that? Kirk says, "You're in charge." Make a decision, Spock. "Captain, your bathtub is full. Shall I turn off the water?"
If I remember correctly, in this episode, the F104 Starfighter aircraft was operating from the SAC Airbase outside of Omaha. Spock mentions later that the debris from the aircraft fell harmlessly into a field in southeast Nebraska. I always thought it would have been cool if the film crew had acquired an actual F104 from the Air Force, and had the transporter bring it into the shuttle bay. It would have great to see the pilot step out of the aircraft and meet Captain Kirk. You could have Scotty go over the aircraft and do a preflight when the pilot leaves. I think Scotty would admire the F104 and would have liked to keep it as a souvenir.
@@tonycrossley2869 Best kind of reply.... Usually my line of thinking for any one questioning like this... *) why the hell are you questioning his action, they did what they felt best.....just enjoy his actions, choices and consequences.. ...but if you wanna break the fourth wall.... *) Because, director and producers decided so
@@scottwatts3879 - Ask the Air Force to have one in a hanger bay. Set up some screens behind it to appear as the walls in the shuttle bay. Keep your camera field of view tight. If they were shooting in Burbank, a base nearby may have had one available. Just wishful thinking on my part.
Jet Cpt.: "What ever this thing is it's big". Michael Scott: "That's what she said". STAR TREK- still one of the best t.v. shows in television history. 📺
Eugene Roddenberry somehow new parts of the future. He was part of something bigger than everything, or he was a very talented person with a very lucky imagination. We need more people like him nowadays. Rest in peace amazing earthling... You too CaptainThomas F. Mantell, If you're not still alive and on bored the craft you are chasing.
Patrick do you study the subject of UFOs? Because this episode is loosely based on the Captain Thomas F. Mantell incident. It is one of the most famous UFO encounters but tragically he was killed. Well done in paying tribute to Mantell.
For reference, the space shuttle came in at about 17500 mph. There is not a single plane in the arsenal of any nation that can match that speed. For a sixties jet fighter to be "closing in on the UFO' means the Enterprise is basically rolling along at idle.
@@eq1373 The operational ceiling of a jet fighter of the era was about 50 000 feet. The U-2 spy plane, specially equipped, managed to reach 70 000 feet. At that orbit the primary concern would have been overcoming earth's gravitational pull. Enough speed to outrun a F-104 would have been the least of the crew's problems. Put the other way, resisting earth's gravitational pull would have been a concern long before descending to an altitude where an encounter with a plane would have been possible. And going back to the space shuttle reference, the Enterprise would have approached earth on a momentum-fueled glide path that, at similar speeds, would have taken the ship around the globe in less than an hour at a North American latitude, popping up on the radar of every nation with a ballistic missile oriented air defense system. Considering that the Soviets also have such an air defense system and nearly twice the land mass of the US, that jet should have been a Russian MiG.`
@@shelbynamels973 It doesn't sound like you ever watched the episode in question, the Enterprise didn't enter the Earths atmosphere from orbit, it "magically" appeared there through some kind of time warp. One minute they were near starbase 9 and the next they were over Nebraska. The crew began the episode lying on the floor without a clue as to where they were or how they got there. We are forced to assume that if the Enterprise finds itself 10 miles above a planets surface with the crew unresponsive it can automatically avoid falling to the ground. Like many television shows, this episode of Star Trek doesn't do a very good job of matching the events of the story to the time it takes to present those events to the audience. Something that is often overlooked is that any craft that can produce acceleration of over 1 g for an unlimited period of time, doesn't need to reach supersonic speeds to reach space or return. Such a ship can park itself above any point, at any altitude and remain there as long as it want's. In every episode of Star Trek when the Enterprise reaches a planet they assume "standard orbit" from a plot oriented point of view it rarely makes sense to orbit the planet at all (there is an episode in which the Enterprise loses power and immediately begins to fall to the ground) From a practical point of view what is so much fun about doing Science Fiction for TV is that you don't have to know anything about science or math, but you still get paid...as long as we the audience find it entertaining; Star Trek was entertaining.
@@forddon I admit I only watched the clip. I just find it such fun to pick apart the unquestioned assumptions of the audience of the era. One of them is the idea that the Enterprise would find itself within the airspace of the CONUS, considering that there is more ocean than land on earth, and that the US ranks fourth in countries with the largest landmass. Statistically, the idea goes against all odds. The other one, of course, is the idea that a fighter jet, just one, with one single pilot, would be sent up to investigate such an unknown intruder, with capabilities to match this intruder, while, if memory serves, "carrying nuclear missiles". So how the Enterprise got itself into the predicament of ending up in earth's orbit is not important. The word we use for those kinds of contrivances today is "plot armor".
@@shelbynamels973 I'm more inclined to pick apart the lack of effort by the writers and producers who had plenty of time to craft a more sensible scenario. Hindsight being what it is, it's easy to forget that in 1966 Star Trek was the best the networks had to offer
One of the few instances where l truly love the CGI re-mastered episodes. So incredibly awesome to see Enterprise flying in near-earth orbit among clouds and blue skies.
That term was never used by the Air Force. Not even by the Germans, who lost more of them than anyone. The 104 actually turned quite well for the era, being able to sustain 7g below 10,000’
00:17 Great scene. I don't think we ever saw the starship flying through the atmosphere in the remainder of the series. Had to be a fun scene to put together
Humor in this one-the AF security officer they beamed aboard looked like a deer in the headlights. And when the transport man made him instant chicken soup!
He was a Sargeant, not an officer and he was an AP for Air Policeman. And what would be your reaction at suddenly being beamed aboard a star ship and being confronted by a man with pointed ears?!
Captain the air.craft has.compleatly broken up. shall I turn off the tractor beam? No. Mr.Spock , leave it on a wile so we can see what else we can. catch.
The Air Force security man had the best.bowl of chicken soup he never had. Imagine it. He also watched people beam down " do they do that often? " Kyle says. " all the time ". The security guard thinks nothing of it? S Well at the end when he's beamed back.time wise it never happened.
@@johnbockelie3899 I always wondered if he was or became a sci Fi fan after this. Did he become a sci Fi writer or have reoccurring dreams?? And Yes I know that 'it never happened' once they were done.
@@katherinkeegan8601 they should.retitle this the episode that.never was.( except for the.crew of the Enterprise.) Because at the end none of the events never happened. even though they did.. It's like doing things you never done For example. Dr Who uses. a companion , they travel the space time stuff battle.aliens and when the Doctor. Is dome he brings the companion back to the same exact moment in time that he.picked he/ she up to drop them off.So in essence their experience never happened yet it did. The same as in the Star Trek episode " Yesterday is tomorrow".i. meant done.in that sentence. The pilot, the guard who got.beamed up, and Kirk's interrogator had experiences that were corrected by. re timing the events so they never happened., and the Enterprise returned to.its proper time in the 23rd century.
White Van Man don't say anything to her unless it's complimenting her on her ability to rearrange and how nice it looks, imagine how much energy it takes to move all that stuff.
@@mickeygarlock4611 it was a very difficult piloted aircraft that did not miss mistakes, but this did not prevent it from remaining in service with many air forces until over 2000
"The aircraft has completely broken up, captain. Shall I turn off the tractor beam?" "Mr. Spock, do I also need to tell you when to wipe your own ass? Take some initiative, man!"
Beamed out of the jet from the sitting position to the transporter pad standing up! guess Scotty is so good with the transporter that he can make him stand up when he gets aboard
You know what captain Christopher should have asked? "I'm from Chicago - please tell me the Cubs have won a World Series by 2300?" Kirk looks at feet..."Ummmm"
This particular episode certainly has remained a favorite to me. Each time I view this, I am inclined to believe that perhaps a probable similar scenario shall occur one day in the immediate future. Since the 1960's, I have believed that it was the intention of Gene Roddenberry to place that imaginative thought in our mind.
There was an incident in 1953 where an F-89 (the nuclear rockets platform) intercepted and merged with an unidentified tracking over the great lakes which continued and then vanished... Wonder if the writers intended that association(?)!
You are probably right. US government has had major influence on Hollywood movie and TV making for decades. It is their intention to desensitize us to the existence of extraterrestrials.
The Kinross Incident . USAF fighter never found after being scrambled from Kinross airbase in Michigan's upper peninsula to intercept ufo over Lake Superior
This episode also reminded me of the Mantell Incident, where Kentucky National Guard pilot Thomas Mantell was tragically killed when he was pursuing an unidentified flying object over a US Air Force base in 1948. Over the years, some have suggested that Captain Mantell was pursuing a huge weather ballon in his P-51 Mustang when he apparently blacked out after flying at a high altitude without having oxygen in his plane. Others maintain that Captain Mantell was killed, pursuing an actual ufo. I believe the name of the pilot in the 1953 ufo incident over Lake Superior was First Lieutenant Felix Moncla, who was from Louisiana. Second Lieutenant Robert Wilson, the jet’s radar officer, was also onboard that flight with First Lieutenant Moncla, when the jet disappeared over Lake Superior. Maybe the current ufo/uap investigations will finally shed light on both the Mantell and Moncla incidents?
It's strange how the director never thought to make the pilot appear on the transporter pad in a sitting position on 1:56 - as he was when he was piloting his aircraft.
the transporter would break you down into atoms and beam you into their transporter pads so i guess it's standard practice to re energize someone standing up rather than leave them in the last position they were in
@@adamschizo Transporter Science has artistic license to get viewers to believe new ideas. Gene Rodenbery admitted, "Every episide had to get viewers to believe new ideas, but we couldn't over-do it and impose too many of them, or we would lose the audience."
It's a courtesy feature to keep people who are being beamed from falling on their ass when they arrive. It usually doesn't realign people who are prone. In TMP, it was trying to beam a meditating Vulcan, got confused and pretzeled the dude.
Later at the end of the same episode, they had to return him back to "His" original time and make him appear in his cockpit in the original sitting position. Blue-Jay-4 returning to base!
KIRK: Scotty, can you get a tractor beam on that pilot? SCOTTY: Only if you can get to the transporter room in the next 2 seconds. I gotta pee. KIRK: I'm here. Go take e a whiz.
It sure seemed like they should have used the tractor beam to bring aboard as much debris as possible, clearly, it could have clues that lead places they did not want the Earthlings to go. Kirk really fouled that up.... ;-)
I always liked this episode from TOS but as I watched this clip, a couple things cone to mind; first, Captain Christopher is sitting in the airplane cockpit and beams aboard standing up. Secondly, why does Spock have to ask Kirk to turn off the tractor beam when he states the plane has broken up? Wouldn’t the tractor beam be tractor beaming thin air at this point? Spock is the First Officer and should be able to make that decision. Man, Star fleet Command is tough with that “Prime Directive”.
how about the fact they beam him back into his jet at the end which is about to break up and crash?! the Enterprise from the previous day would have still been there in front of him - it did not magically disappear.
@@waterlec8718 Yes, the tractor beam was still locked onto and hauling the pieces of the fighter jet after it broke up. Not sure why that wouldn't be obvious to everyone else. Spock is asking Kirk a legitimate question about whether they should let go of the wreckage in the beam... it doesn't have to be explicitly stated for us to understand that.
Spock didn't know if the pilot had beamed on yet, the tracker beam contained his body too not just the jet. Once he was on board it was safe to shut the tracker beam off.
@@kenwittlief255 It DID "magically" disappear because they beamed him back in time to the point before he spotted the Enterprise and then they whisked themselves out of there before he could spot them "for the first time". Capt. Christopher was scrambled due to a radar image of the ship and was sent to make visual confirmation. The moment they returned him in time they were gone with no ability to make that visual confirmation. Why are so many people struggling with these concepts??!!
It's a shame we couldn't have seen the AF pilot join the crew. Kirk genuinely liked him, and he did say "we need men like you, but never get enough of them" I could have seen Christopher eventually Captain his own ship and probably being one of the better captains. But his future son would go on to greatness as one of Earth's early solar system explorers to make it to Saturn. There would have been a great episode! Christopher got to see his son make the first landing on the ringed giant. I couldn't imagine the pride he would have felt as his son transmitted the first images from a manned spacecraft to Earth. It would go something like this: Spock: If you would like, I can call up the library computer and allow you to see your son's visual transmissions to Earth. Captain Christopher: You can do that? I mean in my time, computers need huge amounts of tape and punch cards for data entry. Spock: Fortunately for you, our time has advanced considerably in the fields of cybernetics and computer technology. I myself specialize in computers despite being the science officer on board the Enterprise. Captain Christopher: Alright, and as the computer clicks to life, an image of a very strong and stoic younger man appears. He looks like me, and as the visual continued "Captain's log, Earth year 1997: After nearly three years of essentially being packed in a large tuna can and frozen for the trip here, we have arrived and are inserting ourselves into the outer rings of Saturn. You know, even though this is for the official record, I want to add a personal note: "Dad, if you can hear me out in this void of space, I wanted to say I love you and thank you. Your dreams of this "saucer shape and two cylinders" may not have been so far off. I used to think you were a bit flight happy when you told me about that, but now dad, what I am seeing here now just a few thousand kilometers away, makes me realize that you knew something, you knew something was up there. And we are now just beginning to discover that.....well dad, if you can see this (transmits images of Saturn) maybe you really were the first one to leap out into the unknown.
Edit: "dad, maybe one day in the not too distant future, we will have those kind of "starships" who can fly great distances in the blink of an eye. Dad, I..I hope this reaches you in time. Log end: Christopher, SJ Commander Saturn One. Shaun? Said Major Franklin, we just received a transmission for Earth, it s it's.......... Historical Data File, Christopher Shaun Jeffery is corrupted at this point, no further data is available, the computer said.... Captain Christopher with tears in his eyes: WAIT!!!! Bring it back!!! Captain Kirk, I'm sorry Captain, due to reasons our Prime Directive dictates, I cannot reveal the rest of the transmission to you. Captain Christopher: But......to be continued.
I think the pilot kind of undersells the sheer scale of the enterprise compared to any contemporary aircraft. "Its big" Yeah, its bigger than an Iowa battleship. Even with (small) nukes I wouldn't want to go up against something that big that can freaking fly
unlikely. The warheads used for air to air missiles are relatively small, and the shields on federation starships are designed to protect against photon torpedos, which use antimatter charges and ought to make even a big nuke look like a firecracker
@@GaryCameron Interesting thought here. Both the fictional (for now) Enterprise and the B-36 were transitional craft, using established and newer propulsion. The former using Impulse and Warp power; the latter Reciprocating and Jet . Big difference is fuselage/cabin... disk versus cylinder. TOS was the best Star Trek; it reflected the issues of it's time and made you stop and think.
@@apertureemployee215 It seems kind of unreal, but things that big have been in the air since the beginning. WWI-era Zeppelins were on that scale (~800ft long), and certainly dirigibles and blimps are still around.
Never seen this episode, BUT wouldnt the fighter plane being "broken up" instituted an Act Of War and instantly cause other fighters to attack the ship??
Good call, national announcement, "The United States has declared war on an unidentified alien flying object. We lost it's trajectory, but please remain calm." XD
I served in the military. Under the circumstances, The Pilot (Capt. J Christopher) must've assumed that he is captured by the enemy (Soviets?) grab his gun and shoot the enemy.
don't the ENTERPRISE at least have ONE radio that could transmit and communicate to VHF and identify to the interceptor fighter ? nah, «come on, we teleport you aboard, let's have a seat and a coffee or a beer in the salon, sorry for your jet by the way.»
I think that most people "want to believe" that we are not alone in the universe.... I have heard a theory put forward, that there is, in fact, NOWHERE else in the entire universe, where any life exists... And when we see the UFO's, what we are getting glimpses of, are futuristic spacecraft, built by humans, and that our future humans have discovered the key to time travel... So they come back to see how the "primitive" ancestors actually lived... Of course, the Star Fleet Prime Directive, of non-interference, would have to always apply... It has been suggested that humans, in millions of years time, would look like Thor the Asgard from Stargate, suggesting that the Roswell incident were humans who had a spaceship crash... !!!! Anybody wish to comment on this theory please ?
@@gendyn58779 oh man. I had a good giggle. You are so wrong. Does the Enterprise swim in the ocean or fly in the sky when it visits earth? You are confused by the similarity of their rank. Star Trek is a tv show and they used naval ranks...for some reason. Aerodynamics is the prerequisite of astrodynamics.
@@Late_Night_Talks_Channel Well now.... Lets put this into perspective son. With the Enterprise being a star ship with a full crew with all of the accommodations of a naval vessel such as living quarters, engine room, galley, medical, weapons (photon torpedoes) and of course a BRIDGE with a captains chair. They also refer to these star ships as vessels. Still I have yet to see one Air Force ship though. Also, when high ranking officers or dignitaries come on board they are ceremoniously piped on their arrival just like they do in the Navy and you heard it when Kirk said, welcome aboard my ship to the air force pilot. There are other types of ships too on Star Trek, like, star destroyers and star cruisers. As a matter of fact, Kirk when contacting the enemy before battle he identifies the Enterprise to be a warship which is part of the star fleet just like naval ships of today are part of a fleet . .
This episode is based on multiple UFO vs military incidents, such as the Mantell Incident. Gene Roddenberry may have researched these UFO Incidents for this episode. For this episode, the Mantell Incident applies, since a UFO had taken out a P-51/ F-51. That plane was piloted by a Captain Mantell. One UFO source said NO body was found in the plane's wreckage. 😮👽😱👽
Control: "You are ordered to close on the UFO and attempt to force him to land. We want it brought down or at least disabled until the other planes arrive." Pilot, who actually sees the Enterprise: "Umm, control, I know I'm only a fighter-jock Captain, but this is a huge and obviously highly advanced craft with technology we can't even imagine. Do you really think it is a good idea to piss them off? How about if I try to make radio contact? I mean, it couldn't hurt to TRY, could it?"
@Tom Justis RE: "Do you really think it is a good idea to piss them off?" The late 1960s was during the height of the Cold War (and the Vietnam War). The default military response was to "shoot first and ask questions later." In fact, the more realistic military interpretation for that time would not have been a UFO but a Soviet "bogie" of some kind.
@@spaceman081447 If the Soviets could fly something like that into US airspace, time to hoist the white flag and welcome your new communist overlords. LOL
Uh, hi there, large unknown ship above us, could we talk you into landing where we could have a bit of tea and talk about your giant flying ship? And perhaps point guns at you? You wouldn't mind? Really!That'd be just wonderful!
Mine too. I was just several months past my 10th birthday when it first aired. BTW: The Heroes and Icons (H&I) cable channel is now showing the Star Trek : OS at 8 PM Sunday through Friday. In addition H & I has updated all the space scenes so they are up to date and look great.
then at the end they beam capt Christopher back into his aircraft, which is about to break up and crash and the Enterprise he was chasing is magically not there anymore they really blew the time travel consistency in this episode
This scene is loosely based off a real event that took place in 1948. A UFO was sighted near a military base and a group of pilots were sent out to observe it, one pilot, Captain Thomas Mantell who got closer than any other to the craft they were trying to observe, essentially fell out of the sky to his death. Just google or search the name here on youtube. Fascinating.
An A-10 would have laughed at that tractor beam. One 30mm round to the antimatter containment and we would have had to change all the maps for 500 miles.
Granted, it wouldn't have made for a good storyline, but if I had been the captain of the _USS Enterprise,_ he would've been transported to the surface, thus avoiding a (possible) violation of the "Prime Directive". Additionally, it would've eliminated the need for multiple time/warp travel.. . .
Just switch off the tractor beam when the aircraft started to break up. The plane had an ejection seat, he would have punched out and parachuted to safety, although his memory would be intact.
They hadn't introduced the obvious concept of site to site transport yet. Remember, Star Trek didn't even have a shuttlecraft when it first came on the air. Didn't have the money to get one built. Just getting the idea of "beaming" someone somewhere was enough to get across to the public. Earlier space shows had guys in astronaut suits climbing ladders down the side of rocket ships, so beaming was a huge leap for all of us that watched each week.
he was already in an upright position due to the seat's design; the transporter beam simply "captured" him as he was, without needing to adjust his posture
People are beamed into all sorts of positions. People beamed to sickbay often materialize in a prone position on the bed when they were standing when transported.
Something interesting in this episode, later when they give him a Star Fleet uniform to wear they give him one with the rank of Lieutenant. Lieutenant in the Navy (which is the ranks that Star Trek used) is equivalent of Captain in the Air Force..
Spock "The aircraft may be armed with nuclear warheads" Also Spock "The aircraft has completely broken up. Do you want me to turn the tractor beams off ?"
@@lewisner still better to know if they are carrying something, even if they are not approved to use it. I'd assume phasers could intercept a ground launch, if they are working at the time
If you can take a person apart at the atomic level, transport them in a carrier wave, reassemble them in a living condition with just equipment at one end, surely you can reassemble them in a standing position.
When Col. Christopher was beamed to the enterprise, he was sitting down in the cockpit of his fighter plane. But when he arrived on the transporter pad, he was standing up. Did the transporter straighten out his legs during beamup ??
No, but this is, IMO, a bit of dramatic license… if he had beamed aboard in a sitting position, he’d have promptly fallen on his ass since there was no longer a seat under him. Would’ve kinda detracted from the drama of the moment. :)
Not really - if the transporter can rematerialise a person by coding their atoms and then recreating them somewhere else, then I should imagine a subroutine to rematerialise them standing up shouldn't be a problem.
Fascinating episode. As for William Shatner, what a life. He went into space on 13 October 2021, at the age of 90. For real. Shatner became the oldest person to reach the final frontier.
And Jeff Bezos totally ignored Shatner after landing too!
@@wolfshanze5980 : Jeff Bezos needs to start paying tax. Some of his employees live off food stamps. In the meantime, he is bragging about going to Mars.
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No he didn't
@@peadarmurray7994 I guess you and I watched completely different videos... while Shattner was practically in tears discussing his experience, Jeff Bezos looked bored and distracted, and in the middle of Shatner's comments, Bezos grabbed a bottle of champagne and started making a mess of things... so yea, I guess he was totally respectful and paying close attention to Shattner... or whatever you thought. I mean, it's on video... you can ignore it if you choose... just like Bezos did to Shattner.
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Yes it's on video of them both together talking, with shatner telling bezos about his experience while bezos is listening, please do explain how that constitutes ignoring someone
This had to be one of the best out of the TOS run....but i always figured the F-104 pilot should have beamed aboard still sitting down......
montylc2001 special effects wasn’t good back then
They should have put a toilet there so when he beamed aboard he proberly would have shit himself from shock
Had he been in a seated position when beamed aboard he would fell flat on his ass so the computer adjusted it for him. :)
Can u tell this episode
They used the sit to standing positronic converter unit. Only the Enterprise has one. Kirk is very proud of this fact
"We'll tell you what we decide to tell you in a few moments."
Like a BOSS.
It was at that moment that CPT Christopher knew he was being held by the NSA
Meanwhile at Temporal Investigations.
"He did WHAT!?"
They have whole department just for Kirk.
“Oh no... here we go again. My ulcers have ulcers because of him!”
They should have known already. Kirk should have known he would travel back and there would be nothing he could do to change it. :) Yeah I prefer single-timeline solid time travel hypothesis yes.
The Historical Continuity Commission is going to have us all scrubbing toilets for this. Too bad, I was looking forward to vacation in Paris just before the Revolution. We are SO grounded.
C'mon, Kirk; the Prime Directive! You *do* remember the Prime Directive, don't you?
Let's pick up some whales while we're here. It will save time later.
Whst about a KFC or McDonald's that would be better than the shit they eat
HAHAHAHA,, and a hot cetacean biologist that drinks Michelob..
Why would they want to pick up Wales? You sound like a troll that will say anything stupid for attention!
@ Angry General - Much of a Trekkie are you?
Someone obviously hasn’t seen Voyage Home...
This was an excellent episode and I remember watching it when it first aired a half century ago.
Mike Hawk Me too! I was 8.
As do I
Makes you feel bleeding old doesn't it.
U guys are pretty insane i mean half a century thats double the time ive been alive
@@Enzo-em1te It's really insane when I think how my grandfather was born in 1871. He lived to be 102 years old and passed away in 1973 and he used to talk about how when he was a kid there were still men wearing cowboy six-shooter revolvers. Not as many as you saw in the movies mind you, but it was an aspect of daily life some men still practiced. He said where he lived it didn't die out until sometime in the 1890's, though there were areas of the country where people stopped carrying guns much earlier than that - it all depended what part of the country you lived.
I've always wondered if the writers of this "Star Trek" episode were influenced (consciously or not) by a "Twilight Zone" episode that had aired a few years earlier. Entitled "A Hundred Yards Over The Rim", it starred Cliff Robertson as a Western pioneer in 1849, who is near death from hunger and thirst. Transported (it is never explained how) to 1961, he is assisted by several kind people, and eventually learns from an encyclopedia that his son (who is dying of influenza back in 1849) is destined to be a scientist of some importance. He eventually returns to his own time with a vial of penicillin tablets from 1961, which saves his son's life. In this "Star Trek" episode, Kirk and Company discover that John Christopher has to be returned to HIS time, because his son (whom he hasn't yet fathered) will grow up to be an important scientist. If that plot similarity was a coincidence, it was certainly a striking one.
Thanks for that, I remembered that episode from oodles of yonks ago and could not remember what it was called.
I remember that TZ episode.
Penicillin on the flu, almost as good as it works on Covid.
Actually first man on mars
When we first met Christopher, he was an air force captain...but the ending credits listed him as a "major". I wish I got promoted that fast.
I always liked the way The Enterprise looked when flying through the atmosphere. Somehow it seemed more impressive than when it was in space.
Ditto. Same here.
@carlos curti That was the sort of nebulous unformed thought in my head. You put it into a succinct sentence. Cheers.
@carlos curti Yes absolutely and the ship looked so majestic against the blue sky and clouds.
This is the re hash of stos episode. Norig effect was more primitive and toy like
@@gertraba4484 Yeah I kinda liked that too :)
*US Air Force:* I’m going to force it to land!
*Enterprise:* Am I a joke to you?
Enterprise : Hold my beer ...
@@decioolivojr7807
Enterprise-D: Hold my synthahol ...
@@rkmugen
Hold my Saucer section
Hold my nacelles while I phaser-whip this foo
Enterprise: Hold my Romulan Ale.
Captain John Christopher alias Roger Perry died Thursday July 12, 2018 from prostate cancer, He was 85. RIP d(--___--)b
I am sadden by this death. To may good people have cancer I am lucky my cancer was treatable so far.
Spocko Spockon has
I met him and his wife, the comic actress Joanne Worley of Laugh-In fame. Very nice people.
I thought he was the greatest guest star in all of Star Trek. I also met him at a convention and he was lovely.
On my birthday
I love the lighting on Kirk's face the entire time he's talking to the pilot. The area around his eyes lit up and everything else in shadow.
Bravo, love the show for this!
Kirk: oh my who is this tall drink of water?
Spock: AM I A JOKE TO YOU
Me too! dramatic 50's mood lighting combined with late 1960's technicolor. When I lit for Star Trek New Voyages, I always loved when I could do lighting like that.
Enterprise?!? What the hell are you damn navy guys trying to pull?
Especially if Christopher had been a West Point graduate.
Go Army! Beat Navy!
@@starguy2718 USAF academy is in Colorado Springs, though I’m not sure when it started after the split from the army.
@@Roboprogs The USAF became a separate service in 1947; USAFA graduated its first class in 1959.
BTW, there were nuclear tipped air-to-air missiles, meant to detonate in the middle of enemy bomber streams. Though unlikely to be on an aircraft unless at top readiness. So Spock’s statements were accurate.
Donovan Willett Genie rockets. I know the F104 couldn’t carry them, the F106 and possibly the F101 could.
That's disingenuous. Even if this plane had had nuclear weapons it's unthinkable that this guy would have exceeded his orders by detonating one on his own prerogative over american airspace. Monitoring his communications, the enterprise had the opportunity to wait for the pilot to be given an order to use a nuclear weapon before taking action against it.
Yep, genie air to air missile.
There were actually quite a few problems related to authorization for the use of such warheads.. one of the reasons they stopped using them.
We also had nuclear tipped SAMS too, the BOMARC and Nike Hercules.
I like Kirk's mischievous smile at the pilot's befuddlement, enjoying his moment of superiority and in anticipation of the series of shocks the pilot was about to experience.
Kirk: "You'll have to forgive me - I didn't know that your aircraft couldn't hold up to our tractor beam". Goddammit, Spock TOLD you back up on the bridge this was probably going to happen.
He told him after he'd already given the order.
ROM PARIS OR SULU WOOD KNEW
@@Timeward76 Then, God forbid Kirk RESCIND the order.
Remember this episode clearly as a young teen. One of my favorites. Ironically I was in the Air Force a few years after this episode actually working with F-104’s in NATO. Seems like yesterday.
I've seen model kits of F-14.
USAF F-104s or Luftwaffe F-104s?
When we first met Christopher, he was an air force captain...but the ending credits listed him as a "major". I wish I got promoted that fast.
Seems like yesterday? You mean it seemed like tomorrow? OMG this is so confusing. Time travel always gives me a headache...
Two cylindrical projections on top and one below also a saucer shaped projection in the front.
Wow! That Enterprise is a crazy looking ship, huh?!
This might sound crazy but.......Spock DID mention the the pilot's son Colonel Shaun Christopher led the first Earth/Saturn mission and "Christopher's Landing on Saturn is named in his honor. So that leads to an interesting question.
Could the AF pilot, Shaun's father perhaps mentioned it to his son that he had a brief glimpse of "something" with a saucer and two cylindrical projections? Could his son have perhaps used it as a basis for future starship construction?
He drew what his father told him about and presented it as perhaps a breakthrough design? Makes you wonder.
Edit: And yes I am aware that the Enterprise was developed centuries after Colonel Christopher. But he could have been responsible for future designs. Even perhaps led very early research into long distance sunlight travel. Warp drive was realized in 2067 and supposedly Christopher's mission was in the 1990's.
He might have been very old ,but perhaps he lived long enough to see Chochrane's Warp drive succede.
Pilot skipped the best part the flying saucer.
@Whatever Yo! Captain "Kurt"?
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 I get that from a literal standpoint, it's just one of those "what if's" it's not a reflection on the lore itself. Nowhere did I say it was, nor was it a reinterpretation of it.
One of the best Star trek episodes period in all generations
What is this episode called?
@@slimturnpike Tomorrow Is Yesterday.
@@imfsresidentotaku9699 thank you
@@slimturnpike You're welcome.
'Captain the aircraft has broken up shall I turn off the trackor beam?'
'Yes Mr Spock, that would be the logical thing to do I think.'
Right! Why in the world would Spock have to ask the captain that? Kirk says, "You're in charge." Make a decision, Spock. "Captain, your bathtub is full. Shall I turn off the water?"
I noticed the same thing. Why would you even ask? The tractor beam is aimed at something that no longer exists. Why would you leave it on?
When we first met Christopher, he was an air force captain...but the ending credits listed him as a "major". I wish I got promoted that fast.
If I remember correctly, in this episode, the F104 Starfighter aircraft was operating from the SAC Airbase outside of Omaha. Spock mentions later that the debris from the aircraft fell harmlessly into a field in southeast Nebraska. I always thought it would have been cool if the film crew had acquired an actual F104 from the Air Force, and had the transporter bring it into the shuttle bay. It would have great to see the pilot step out of the aircraft and meet Captain Kirk. You could have Scotty go over the aircraft and do a preflight when the pilot leaves. I think Scotty would admire the F104 and would have liked to keep it as a souvenir.
.....Think of the budget Boy...think of the Budget !....
@@tonycrossley2869 Best kind of reply....
Usually my line of thinking for any one questioning like this...
*) why the hell are you questioning his action, they did what they felt best.....just enjoy his actions, choices and consequences..
...but if you wanna break the fourth wall....
*) Because, director and producers decided so
Well they let them come out to the air force base and film the jets
But could they have done that for $25 and some change?
@@scottwatts3879 - Ask the Air Force to have one in a hanger bay. Set up some screens behind it to appear as the walls in the shuttle bay. Keep your camera field of view tight. If they were shooting in Burbank, a base nearby may have had one available. Just wishful thinking on my part.
Jet Cpt.: "What ever this thing is it's big".
Michael Scott: "That's what she said".
STAR TREK- still one of the best t.v. shows in television history. 📺
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This is one of my favorite episodes of the TOS series. Loved Capt. Christopher’s look right after rematerializing.
Well, if I saw Kirks face in that lighting - with shadow on his forehead and smiling mouth, I would probably think he is evil :)
can you please tell me the season and episode numbers?
@@binojvincent2226 Season1 Episode 19 " Tomorrow Is Yesterday", greetings from Argentina👍👍👍
@@luxxior lol. Fake. I search it on netflix now. S1 episode 19 is entitled arena. Its about gorn
@@kenk5269 "Tomorrow is Yesterday" Season 1, Episode 20 on Netflix , Sorry, I error for one, 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
This was my favourite episode when I was a kid because having the enterprise flying above the earth was something I used to dream about.
When we first met Christopher, he was an air force captain...but the ending credits listed him as a "major". I wish I got promoted that fast.
Eugene Roddenberry somehow new parts of the future. He was part of something bigger than everything, or he was a very talented person with a very lucky imagination. We need more people like him nowadays. Rest in peace amazing earthling... You too CaptainThomas F. Mantell, If you're not still alive and on bored the craft you are chasing.
Patrick do you study the subject of UFOs? Because this episode is loosely based on the Captain Thomas F. Mantell incident. It is one of the most famous UFO encounters but tragically he was killed. Well done in paying tribute to Mantell.
Think you are ignoring the Science Fiction writers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, GR only enhanced their imagination, nothing original.
@@belleriffraff First transporter accident was in the 1877 story The Man Without a Body.
For reference, the space shuttle came in at about 17500 mph. There is not a single plane in the arsenal of any nation that can match that speed.
For a sixties jet fighter to be "closing in on the UFO' means the Enterprise is basically rolling along at idle.
It was damaged
@@eq1373 The operational ceiling of a jet fighter of the era was about 50 000 feet. The U-2 spy plane, specially equipped, managed to reach 70 000 feet.
At that orbit the primary concern would have been overcoming earth's gravitational pull. Enough speed to outrun a F-104 would have been the least of the crew's problems.
Put the other way, resisting earth's gravitational pull would have been a concern long before descending to an altitude where an encounter with a plane would have been possible.
And going back to the space shuttle reference, the Enterprise would have approached earth on a momentum-fueled glide path that, at similar speeds, would have taken the ship around the globe in less than an hour at a North American latitude, popping up on the radar of every nation with a ballistic missile oriented air defense system.
Considering that the Soviets also have such an air defense system and nearly twice the land mass of the US, that jet should have been a Russian MiG.`
@@shelbynamels973 It doesn't sound like you ever watched the episode in question, the Enterprise didn't enter the Earths atmosphere from orbit, it "magically" appeared there through some kind of time warp. One minute they were near starbase 9 and the next they were over Nebraska. The crew began the episode lying on the floor without a clue as to where they were or how they got there. We are forced to assume that if the Enterprise finds itself 10 miles above a planets surface with the crew unresponsive it can automatically avoid falling to the ground. Like many television shows, this episode of Star Trek doesn't do a very good job of matching the events of the story to the time it takes to present those events to the audience.
Something that is often overlooked is that any craft that can produce acceleration of over 1 g for an unlimited period of time, doesn't need to reach supersonic speeds to reach space or return. Such a ship can park itself above any point, at any altitude and remain there as long as it want's. In every episode of Star Trek when the Enterprise reaches a planet they assume "standard orbit" from a plot oriented point of view it rarely makes sense to orbit the planet at all (there is an episode in which the Enterprise loses power and immediately begins to fall to the ground)
From a practical point of view what is so much fun about doing Science Fiction for TV is that you don't have to know anything about science or math, but you still get paid...as long as we the audience find it entertaining; Star Trek was entertaining.
@@forddon I admit I only watched the clip. I just find it such fun to pick apart the unquestioned assumptions of the audience of the era.
One of them is the idea that the Enterprise would find itself within the airspace of the CONUS, considering that there is more ocean than land on earth, and that the US ranks fourth in countries with the largest landmass. Statistically, the idea goes against all odds.
The other one, of course, is the idea that a fighter jet, just one, with one single pilot, would be sent up to investigate such an unknown intruder, with capabilities to match this intruder, while, if memory serves, "carrying nuclear missiles".
So how the Enterprise got itself into the predicament of ending up in earth's orbit is not important. The word we use for those kinds of contrivances today is "plot armor".
@@shelbynamels973 I'm more inclined to pick apart the lack of effort by the writers and producers who had plenty of time to craft a more sensible scenario. Hindsight being what it is, it's easy to forget that in 1966 Star Trek was the best the networks had to offer
One of the few instances where l truly love the CGI re-mastered episodes. So incredibly awesome to see Enterprise flying in near-earth orbit among clouds and blue skies.
How many red shirts were lost stopping Scotty from beaming down to get some 1960s scotch...... not that synthahol crap.
Maybe if this was a 24th Century ship. They still had the real deal in Kirk’s time!
I could also see Scotty making a hidden cache of scotch, when they get back, he had 300 year old scotch for celebrating
True about Bones. He did give Adm. Kirk a bottle of Romulan Ale for a birthday present....... which McCoy “only uses for medicinal purposes”
Great comment
@@jmf12b
the old
ARTHRITIS
acted up from time to time
Season 1 Episode 20 - tomorrow is yesterday.. currently available on netflix
It is episode 19 I think :/
@@Rasperdan 20
@@otherscup When I google it tells me 19 scup?
@@Rasperdan When I look at the entire season I see it at 20th place
@@otherscup aaa I see ......... Damn you google!!
Always loved the f 104 starfighter. Missile with a man in it .beautiful aircraft
That term was never used by the Air Force. Not even by the Germans, who lost more of them than anyone.
The 104 actually turned quite well for the era, being able to sustain 7g below 10,000’
to be honest, that lockheed starfighter might as well have broken apart without any tractor beam
Brilliant!! :D
They didn't nickname it "Lawn Dart" for nothing!
Yeah, ask Chuck Yeager about that.
If 104's were so bad , why build them in the first place?!😃
@@billyfoster3223 In the right hands, an F-104 can be a formidable weapon--in the wrong hands, the F-104 is unforgiving when pilot error is involved.
00:17 Great scene. I don't think we ever saw the starship flying through the atmosphere in the remainder of the series. Had to be a fun scene to put together
This was the remastered version. But yes, they shot special footage of the lady for the original episode.
@@93qketq8 which was much better than the CGI version
Humor in this one-the AF security officer they beamed aboard looked like a deer in the headlights. And when the transport man made him instant chicken soup!
He was a Sargeant, not an officer and he was an AP for Air Policeman. And what would be your reaction at suddenly being beamed aboard a star ship and being confronted by a man with pointed ears?!
Captain the air.craft has.compleatly broken up. shall I turn off the tractor beam? No. Mr.Spock , leave it on a wile so we can see what else we can. catch.
The Air Force security man had the best.bowl of chicken soup he never had. Imagine it. He also watched people beam down " do they do that often? " Kyle says. " all the time ". The security guard thinks nothing of it? S Well at the end when he's beamed back.time wise it never happened.
@@johnbockelie3899 I always wondered if he was or became a sci Fi fan after this. Did he become a sci Fi writer or have reoccurring dreams??
And Yes I know that 'it never happened' once they were done.
@@katherinkeegan8601 they should.retitle this the episode that.never was.( except for the.crew of the Enterprise.) Because at the end none of the events never happened. even though they did.. It's like doing things you never done
For example. Dr Who uses. a companion , they travel the space time stuff battle.aliens and when the Doctor. Is dome he brings the companion back to the same exact moment in time that he.picked he/ she up to drop them off.So in essence their experience never happened yet it did. The same as in the Star Trek episode " Yesterday is tomorrow".i. meant done.in that sentence. The pilot, the guard who got.beamed up, and Kirk's interrogator had experiences that were corrected by. re timing the events so they never happened., and the Enterprise returned to.its proper time in the 23rd century.
Boy, Temporal investigations must have had a field day with this one
Ed Peck as Colonel Fellini was a great addition to this episode.
I feel like him every time I walk through the front door and my wife has re arranged our furniture. I don't like it at all.
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Do you only give your name, rank and serial number too?
Michael Martin 😂😂😂
White Van Man don't say anything to her unless it's complimenting her on her ability to rearrange and how nice it looks, imagine how much energy it takes to move all that stuff.
Your wife rearranges the furniture? Mine makes me do it. :sad: :sore:
the F-104 was one of the most beautiful interceptors in history
It also crashed so much it was nicknamed The Widow maker.
@@mickeygarlock4611 it was a very difficult piloted aircraft that did not miss mistakes, but this did not prevent it from remaining in service with many air forces until over 2000
@18tangles but this has not prevented this aircraft from remaining in service for about 50 years
@18tangles I could also ask to the ITALIAN AIR FORCE, but I was talking about the plane not about political intrigues
@18tangles no, I'm Italian and I love the F-104, especially in the history of our air force, where it was nicknamed "lo spillone" "the big pin"
"The aircraft has completely broken up, captain. Shall I turn off the tractor beam?"
"Mr. Spock, do I also need to tell you when to wipe your own ass? Take some initiative, man!"
"Captain surely it would be an inefficient use of your time and most illogical were you to.."
"Can it, ears!"
No, beam it into the cargo bay.
"No Spock. Play with the debris in the tractor beam for awhile... yes turn the dang thing off dummy!"
@@daveherres3374 "beam the completely disintegrated rubble, possibly including damaged nuclear warheads, into the cargo bay, that's an order!"
The 1st frame of the Enterprise over blue skies is awesome
amazing what the tech of the time could acheve back then when you think about how antiquated the tech was back then
Beamed out of the jet from the sitting position to the transporter pad standing up! guess Scotty is so good with the transporter that he can make him stand up when he gets aboard
2:02 "They didn't cover THIS in my training ..."
You know what captain Christopher should have asked? "I'm from Chicago - please tell me the Cubs have won a World Series by 2300?" Kirk looks at feet..."Ummmm"
This particular episode certainly has remained a favorite to me. Each time I view this, I am inclined to believe that perhaps a probable similar scenario shall occur one day in the immediate future. Since the 1960's, I have believed that it was the intention of Gene Roddenberry to place that imaginative thought in our mind.
Travis Walton's abduction case is the closest to this scenario where he got all shouty with the occupants of the craft.
How do you know it hasn’t already? Almost surely the government would hide this if it knew about it. Might just look like an F-22 missing. 😉
Dorothy (D.C.) Fontana wrote almost all of the very best TOS episodes.
"Captain, maybe this type of aircraft is too fragile to take our tractor beam"
Actualy too fragile to take basicaly anything...
I poked one once, the nose fell off
Now that’s what I call a First Contact!
There was an incident in 1953 where an F-89 (the nuclear rockets platform) intercepted and merged with an unidentified tracking over the great lakes which continued and then vanished... Wonder if the writers intended that association(?)!
You are probably right. US government has had major influence on Hollywood movie and TV making for decades. It is their intention to desensitize us to the existence of extraterrestrials.
@@MrCyclejay1967 that's brilliant perception!
@@tryarunm . That is not perception. That is documented fact. But thank you.
The Kinross Incident . USAF fighter never found after being scrambled from Kinross airbase in Michigan's upper peninsula to intercept ufo over Lake Superior
This episode also reminded me of the Mantell Incident, where Kentucky National Guard pilot Thomas Mantell was tragically killed when he was pursuing an unidentified flying object over a US Air Force base in 1948.
Over the years, some have suggested that Captain Mantell was pursuing a huge weather ballon in his P-51 Mustang when he apparently blacked
out after flying at a high altitude without having oxygen in his plane.
Others maintain that Captain Mantell was killed, pursuing an actual ufo.
I believe the name of the pilot in the 1953 ufo incident over Lake Superior was First Lieutenant Felix Moncla, who was from Louisiana.
Second Lieutenant Robert Wilson, the jet’s radar officer, was also onboard that flight with First Lieutenant Moncla, when the jet disappeared over Lake Superior.
Maybe the current ufo/uap investigations will finally shed light on both the Mantell and Moncla incidents?
It's strange how the director never thought to make the pilot appear on the transporter pad in a sitting position on 1:56 - as he was when he was piloting his aircraft.
I thought it was strange too when I saw it first run in the 1960s and I was just a kid in my teens.
the transporter would break you down into atoms and beam you into their transporter pads so i guess it's standard practice to re energize someone standing up rather than leave them in the last position they were in
@@adamschizo Transporter Science has artistic license to get viewers to believe new ideas. Gene Rodenbery admitted, "Every episide had to get viewers to believe new ideas, but we couldn't over-do it and impose too many of them, or we would lose the audience."
It's a courtesy feature to keep people who are being beamed from falling on their ass when they arrive. It usually doesn't realign people who are prone. In TMP, it was trying to beam a meditating Vulcan, got confused and pretzeled the dude.
Later at the end of the same episode, they had to return him back to "His" original time and make him appear in his cockpit in the original sitting position. Blue-Jay-4 returning to base!
KIRK: Scotty, can you get a tractor beam on that pilot?
SCOTTY: Only if you can get to the transporter room in the next 2 seconds. I gotta pee.
KIRK: I'm here. Go take e a whiz.
It sure seemed like they should have used the tractor beam to bring aboard as much debris as possible, clearly, it could have clues that lead places they did not want the Earthlings to go. Kirk really fouled that up.... ;-)
Probably saved the pilots life given the chances of the F104 crashing on landing🤣
Damn straight
WHY HASN'T ANCIENT ALIENS INVESTIGATED THIS IN AN EPISODE YET?!?!
One of the ships of the line calenders from a couple years back had a painting of the F-104 starting to break up in the Enterprises tractor beam.
Star Trek reruns are on one channel in the Phoenix area. Great show
I always liked this episode from TOS but as I watched this clip, a couple things cone to mind; first, Captain Christopher is sitting in the airplane cockpit and beams aboard standing up. Secondly, why does Spock have to ask Kirk to turn off the tractor beam when he states the plane has broken up? Wouldn’t the tractor beam be tractor beaming thin air at this point? Spock is the First Officer and should be able to make that decision. Man, Star fleet Command is tough with that “Prime Directive”.
how about the fact they beam him back into his jet at the end
which is about to break up and crash?!
the Enterprise from the previous day would have still been there in front of him - it did not magically disappear.
I think it'd be beaming a broken up plane.
@@waterlec8718 Yes, the tractor beam was still locked onto and hauling the pieces of the fighter jet after it broke up. Not sure why that wouldn't be obvious to everyone else. Spock is asking Kirk a legitimate question about whether they should let go of the wreckage in the beam... it doesn't have to be explicitly stated for us to understand that.
Spock didn't know if the pilot had beamed on yet, the tracker beam contained his body too not just the jet. Once he was on board it was safe to shut the tracker beam off.
@@kenwittlief255 It DID "magically" disappear because they beamed him back in time to the point before he spotted the Enterprise and then they whisked themselves out of there before he could spot them "for the first time". Capt. Christopher was scrambled due to a radar image of the ship and was sent to make visual confirmation. The moment they returned him in time they were gone with no ability to make that visual confirmation. Why are so many people struggling with these concepts??!!
It's a shame we couldn't have seen the AF pilot join the crew. Kirk genuinely liked him, and he did say "we need men like you, but never get enough of them" I could have seen Christopher eventually Captain his own ship and probably being one of the better captains. But his future son would go on to greatness as one of Earth's early solar system explorers to make it to Saturn. There would have been a great episode! Christopher got to see his son make the first landing on the ringed giant. I couldn't imagine the pride he would have felt as his son transmitted the first images from a manned spacecraft to Earth. It would go something like this:
Spock: If you would like, I can call up the library computer and allow you to see your son's visual transmissions to Earth.
Captain Christopher: You can do that? I mean in my time, computers need huge amounts of tape and punch cards for data entry.
Spock: Fortunately for you, our time has advanced considerably in the fields of cybernetics and computer technology. I myself specialize in computers despite being the science officer on board the Enterprise.
Captain Christopher: Alright, and as the computer clicks to life, an image of a very strong and stoic younger man appears. He looks like me, and as the visual continued "Captain's log, Earth year 1997: After nearly three years of essentially being packed in a large tuna can and frozen for the trip here, we have arrived and are inserting ourselves into the outer rings of Saturn. You know, even though this is for the official record, I want to add a personal note:
"Dad, if you can hear me out in this void of space, I wanted to say I love you and thank you. Your dreams of this "saucer shape and two cylinders" may not have been so far off. I used to think you were a bit flight happy when you told me about that, but now dad, what I am seeing here now just a few thousand kilometers away, makes me realize that you knew something, you knew something was up there. And we are now just beginning to discover that.....well dad, if you can see this (transmits images of Saturn) maybe you really were the first one to leap out into the unknown.
Edit: "dad, maybe one day in the not too distant future, we will have those kind of "starships" who can fly great distances in the blink of an eye. Dad, I..I hope this reaches you in time. Log end: Christopher, SJ Commander Saturn One.
Shaun? Said Major Franklin, we just received a transmission for Earth, it s it's..........
Historical Data File, Christopher Shaun Jeffery is corrupted at this point, no further data is available, the computer said....
Captain Christopher with tears in his eyes: WAIT!!!! Bring it back!!!
Captain Kirk, I'm sorry Captain, due to reasons our Prime Directive dictates, I cannot reveal the rest of the transmission to you.
Captain Christopher: But......to be continued.
He had to go back because the child he hadn't yet had was important to starfleets future.
I think the pilot kind of undersells the sheer scale of the enterprise compared to any contemporary aircraft.
"Its big"
Yeah, its bigger than an Iowa battleship. Even with (small) nukes I wouldn't want to go up against something that big that can freaking fly
A nuke could take out any ship in an atmosphere.
unlikely. The warheads used for air to air missiles are relatively small, and the shields on federation starships are designed to protect against photon torpedos, which use antimatter charges and ought to make even a big nuke look like a firecracker
The B-36 was pretty big, although nothing close to Enterprise.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36_Peacemaker?wprov=sfla1
@@GaryCameron Interesting thought here. Both the fictional (for now) Enterprise and the B-36 were transitional craft, using established and newer propulsion.
The former using Impulse and Warp power; the latter Reciprocating and Jet .
Big difference is fuselage/cabin... disk versus cylinder.
TOS was the best Star Trek; it reflected the issues of it's time and made you stop and think.
@@apertureemployee215 It seems kind of unreal, but things that big have been in the air since the beginning. WWI-era Zeppelins were on that scale (~800ft long), and certainly dirigibles and blimps are still around.
“You speak English”
Apparently so do Klingons , Romulans , Vulcans and dozens of other aliens!
Never seen this episode, BUT wouldnt the fighter plane being "broken up" instituted an Act Of War and instantly cause other fighters to attack the ship??
Yes...if they can catch them. Enterprise was already gone before other planes could get there. They don't know who to declare war AGAINST.
Good call, national announcement, "The United States has declared war on an unidentified alien flying object. We lost it's trajectory, but please remain calm." XD
Spock: "He might damage us severely.......heavy emphasis on MIGHT, Captain.........MIGHT".
I served in the military. Under the circumstances, The Pilot (Capt. J Christopher) must've assumed that he is captured by the enemy (Soviets?) grab his gun and shoot the enemy.
don't the ENTERPRISE at least have ONE radio that could transmit and communicate to VHF and identify to the interceptor fighter ? nah, «come on, we teleport you aboard, let's have a seat and a coffee or a beer in the salon, sorry for your jet by the way.»
Can you just imagine if all the hype on UFO's were really just us from the 23rd century. That would be wild.
I think that most people "want to believe" that we are not alone in the universe.... I have heard a theory put forward, that there is, in fact, NOWHERE else in the entire universe, where any life exists... And when we see the UFO's, what we are getting glimpses of, are futuristic spacecraft, built by humans, and that our future humans have discovered the key to time travel... So they come back to see how the "primitive" ancestors actually lived... Of course, the Star Fleet Prime Directive, of non-interference, would have to always apply... It has been suggested that humans, in millions of years time, would look like Thor the Asgard from Stargate, suggesting that the Roswell incident were humans who had a spaceship crash... !!!! Anybody wish to comment on this theory please ?
'Captain... I'm reading a ship that's ... similar to ours... 'USS Voyager...'
"You people. Who are you?"
"Your United States Air Force's future." - Captain Kirk
Nope... not future Air Force... .. future Navy. Enterprise is a SHIP made for space travel with a full crew.
@@gendyn58779 oh man. I had a good giggle. You are so wrong. Does the Enterprise swim in the ocean or fly in the sky when it visits earth? You are confused by the similarity of their rank. Star Trek is a tv show and they used naval ranks...for some reason. Aerodynamics is the prerequisite of astrodynamics.
@@Late_Night_Talks_Channel Well now.... Lets put this into perspective son. With the Enterprise being a star ship with a full crew with all of the accommodations of a naval vessel such as living quarters, engine room, galley, medical, weapons (photon torpedoes) and of course a BRIDGE with a captains chair. They also refer to these star ships as vessels. Still I have yet to see one Air Force ship though. Also, when high ranking officers or dignitaries come on board they are ceremoniously piped on their arrival just like they do in the Navy and you heard it when Kirk said, welcome aboard my ship to the air force pilot. There are other types of ships too on Star Trek, like, star destroyers and star cruisers. As a matter of fact, Kirk when contacting the enemy before battle he identifies the Enterprise to be a warship which is part of the star fleet just like naval ships of today are part of a fleet . .
' You're' not' your'..
That is not the direct quote from Kirk. But the context is right!🖖
This episode is based on multiple UFO vs military incidents, such as the Mantell Incident. Gene Roddenberry may have researched these UFO Incidents for this episode. For this episode, the Mantell Incident applies, since a UFO had taken out a P-51/ F-51. That plane was piloted by a Captain Mantell. One UFO source said NO body was found in the plane's wreckage. 😮👽😱👽
Control: "You are ordered to close on the UFO and attempt to force him to land. We want it brought down or at least disabled until the other planes arrive."
Pilot, who actually sees the Enterprise: "Umm, control, I know I'm only a fighter-jock Captain, but this is a huge and obviously highly advanced craft with technology we can't even imagine. Do you really think it is a good idea to piss them off? How about if I try to make radio contact? I mean, it couldn't hurt to TRY, could it?"
@Tom Justis
RE: "Do you really think it is a good idea to piss them off?"
The late 1960s was during the height of the Cold War (and the Vietnam War). The default military response was to "shoot first and ask questions later." In fact, the more realistic military interpretation for that time would not have been a UFO but a Soviet "bogie" of some kind.
@@spaceman081447 If the Soviets could fly something like that into US airspace, time to hoist the white flag and welcome your new communist overlords. LOL
Pilot "It's huge with two cylindrical projections". "Oh wait ,screw that it's only an Airfix plastic model".
Uh, hi there, large unknown ship above us, could we talk you into landing where we could have a bit of tea and talk about your giant flying ship? And perhaps point guns at you? You wouldn't mind? Really!That'd be just wonderful!
How does Capt Christopher go from a sitting position in the planes cockpit to standing on the transporter pad?
Kirk: "It was an accident."
Christopher: "You seem to have a lot of them."
This is one of my favorite episodes. I get it out and watch it every so often.
Mine too. I was just several months past my 10th birthday when it first aired. BTW: The Heroes and Icons (H&I) cable channel is now showing the Star Trek : OS at 8 PM Sunday through Friday. In addition H & I has updated all the space scenes so they are up to date and look great.
The F-104 was practically right on top of the Enterprise. Should he have locked radar on target and engaged with missiles and or guns?
They did him a favor. The F104
" Widowmaker" Was not the safest aircraft to fly.
"Captain, the aircraft has completely broken up, shall we turn off the tractor beam now" - might as well
then at the end they beam capt Christopher back into his aircraft, which is about to break up and crash
and the Enterprise he was chasing is magically not there anymore
they really blew the time travel consistency in this episode
Wish I can go with them I’ll say good buy 20th century 😂😂😂😂
This scene is loosely based off a real event that took place in 1948. A UFO was sighted near a military base and a group of pilots were sent out to observe it, one pilot, Captain Thomas Mantell who got closer than any other to the craft they were trying to observe, essentially fell out of the sky to his death. Just google or search the name here on youtube. Fascinating.
An A-10 would have laughed at that tractor beam. One 30mm round to the antimatter containment and we would have had to change all the maps for 500 miles.
This was from season 1, episode “Tomorrow is Yesterday”. Live long and prosper.....
I read this one in Project Blue Book. The conclusion, the pilot had been watching too much of a popular 1960s Sci-Fi program called Star Trek.
Who’s here after the Alaska UFO got shot down?
Me
yep
"..might have nuclear missiles.."
"..tractor beam might destroy the AC.."
"..beam the pilot up.."
oops, there goes a hunk of Nebraska! ahahaha.
Granted, it wouldn't have made for a good storyline, but if I had been the captain of the _USS Enterprise,_ he would've been transported to the surface, thus avoiding a (possible) violation of the "Prime Directive". Additionally, it would've eliminated the need for multiple time/warp travel.. . .
Just switch off the tractor beam when the aircraft started to break up. The plane had an ejection seat, he would have punched out and parachuted to safety, although his memory would be intact.
They hadn't introduced the obvious concept of site to site transport yet. Remember, Star Trek didn't even have a shuttlecraft when it first came on the air. Didn't have the money to get one built. Just getting the idea of "beaming" someone somewhere was enough to get across to the public. Earlier space shows had guys in astronaut suits climbing ladders down the side of rocket ships, so beaming was a huge leap for all of us that watched each week.
How does a sitting pilot get beamed aboard the Enter[rise while standing up!
he was already in an upright position due to the seat's design; the transporter beam simply "captured" him as he was, without needing to adjust his posture
Kirk walked from the bridge to the transporter room in one second to find a standing pilot who should be sitting.
People are beamed into all sorts of positions. People beamed to sickbay often materialize in a prone position on the bed when they were standing when transported.
What happened to the other planes that were going to rendezvous?
Once upon a time, a person could watch complete episodes of Star Trek.
That is why I have all 3 seasons on 3 different DVD formats.
literally on any torrent site
@@williamhaynes4800 I have all three seasons on blu-ray, with both the original versions and the remastered special effects on the same blu-ray.
@@wolfshanze5980
Been looking for that last 1 can't find it anywhere.
When we first met Christopher, he was an air force captain...but the ending credits listed him as a "major". I wish I got promoted that fast.
USAF Pilot on seeing Captain Kirk, "Hey! I know you. I've seen you before on TV with that funny guy with the pointed ears."
I love the way Spock pronounces the word “Interceptor”.
Even if it were an F-15 Eagle.
That's how Filipinos say it too lol
Canadian version.
Something interesting in this episode, later when they give him a Star Fleet uniform to wear they give him one with the rank of Lieutenant. Lieutenant in the Navy (which is the ranks that Star Trek used) is equivalent of Captain in the Air Force..
Spock "The aircraft may be armed with nuclear warheads"
Also Spock "The aircraft has completely broken up. Do you want me to turn the tractor beams off ?"
after gently putting it down of course!
Spock - did you think about scanning for fissionables?
@@fionam3554 "Captain - records show that nuclear strikes would have to be authorised by the President"
@@lewisner still better to know if they are carrying something, even if they are not approved to use it. I'd assume phasers could intercept a ground launch, if they are working at the time
Why didn’t Kirk just transport Christopher to the ground instead of the Enterprise?
So the pilot was standing inside his cocpit when he got transported.
If you can take a person apart at the atomic level, transport them in a carrier wave, reassemble them in a living condition with just equipment at one end, surely you can reassemble them in a standing position.
@@kdrapertrucker Reassemble them on their head for a laugh.
They should have just beamed him from the plane to the ground.
2:18 He looks like a Postman looking through a letterbox
I like how Kirk was courteous and probably in awe of an old school fighter pilot with the same spirit from centuries before.
I love the camera work & lighting back then, with the shadows on their faces.
It seems tractor beams can actually change your posture!
This is one of the best episodes!
Have this on the derby-when playing them back I always know from the music cues when to zip through the ads. I know them too well. Oops, I mean DVR
When Col. Christopher was beamed to the enterprise, he was sitting down in the cockpit of his fighter plane. But when he arrived on the transporter pad, he was standing up. Did the transporter straighten out his legs during beamup ??
No, but this is, IMO, a bit of dramatic license… if he had beamed aboard in a sitting position, he’d have promptly fallen on his ass since there was no longer a seat under him. Would’ve kinda detracted from the drama of the moment. :)
Season 1 Episode 20 “Tomorrow is Yesterday,” opening scene.
The error was that he was beamed aboard standing up. Still one of my favorite episodes.
Not really - if the transporter can rematerialise a person by coding their atoms and then recreating them somewhere else, then I should imagine a subroutine to rematerialise them standing up shouldn't be a problem.
I like how the pilot starts asking questions like he is in charge. Haha. Doesn't have a clue.
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tranceforlife1 That's part and parcel of being an aviator.
You talk like you are in a position of power even if you aren't. Standard rhetorical technique.