The Only Black Man at the Little Bighorn: Isaiah Dorman and the Timber Fight

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @christopping5876
    @christopping5876 2 года назад +14

    The way you present your videos on RUclips is a breath of fresh air. Thanks for great content, very well done.

    • @daelanbro
      @daelanbro Год назад

      It reminds me of RUclips in the early 2000’s. So refreshing to see.

  • @TXMEDRGR
    @TXMEDRGR 2 года назад +38

    You did a great job of telling Isiah's story.

  • @jerryjones188
    @jerryjones188 2 года назад +15

    I remember reading this story. I cannot remember from which book. Great job. The typed report, photos, Indian depictions of the battle. Nice!

  • @steebo3343
    @steebo3343 2 года назад +6

    This is the first time I've seen one of your videos. You are a fantastic story teller. Keep up the good work. I look forward to hearing more.

  • @henrymann8122
    @henrymann8122 2 года назад +6

    I enjoyed this too. What I liked, believe it or not, is the modern highway system as a contrast amongst the historical sites. Brilliant

  • @praetoriandorn3154
    @praetoriandorn3154 2 года назад +5

    I always get something out of the stories of these old folks, even the most insignificant of them. Its almost like the events of time and genetics somehow conspired to produce all these amazing people right at this captivating period

  • @nationalautomotive5032
    @nationalautomotive5032 2 года назад +25

    On a scorching hot day one summer I hiked down to the river bottom on the Little Big Horn River.
    I found Isaiah Dormans gravestone as well as the gravestone of his good friend Lonesome Charlie
    Reynolds. It is the opinion of some very expert historians that Dorman and Reynolds sacrificed
    their lives to buy precious minutes for the young troopers to attempt escape. They both laid down
    their lives for the Troopers.

    • @robcharlesbrownspeechleyan257
      @robcharlesbrownspeechleyan257 2 года назад +1

      True

    • @lowcountrydawg2525
      @lowcountrydawg2525 2 года назад +1

      Charlie's horse got shot out from under him. He'd had a premonition that he would not survive the battle and he was very much trying to flee to the heights, not stay and fight to give the troopers a chance to escape.

    • @nationalautomotive5032
      @nationalautomotive5032 2 года назад

      @@lowcountrydawg2525 He was killed next to Isiah
      Dorman, They could have made a run for the river but chose to make a stand.

    • @lowcountrydawg2525
      @lowcountrydawg2525 2 года назад

      @@nationalautomotive5032 Reno Court of Inquiry, day 5, testimony of Frank Girard: "At the foot of the hill, Mr. Reynolds mounted and I led my horse, and I saw him whip up and start his horse on a run up the hill, and I hurried up and got up on the hill, and could see nothing but a few indians -no men or troops. As I saw Mr. Reynolds then, I saw several indians cut him off and shoot him down, and he fell. He appeared to me to have his leg caught under his horse, and he lost his gun..
      Day 8, question by the court to Gerard: "Reynolds was killed trying to overtake Reno's command, was he not?"
      Gerard: "Yes sir, I suppose so."
      Day 8, question by the court to Gerard: "How long after Major Reno's command left the timber did Reynolds attempt to follow him?"
      Gerard: "That would be getting me down to seconds. I can't say, it was immediately after."
      Reynolds was not trying to make a stand to help the troopers escape, he was trying to get the hell out of dodge. Do your research.

    • @nationalautomotive5032
      @nationalautomotive5032 2 года назад

      @@lowcountrydawg2525 Thank You I may stand corrected. As I understood it Reynolds
      monument stone is located where his body was discovered. His stone is
      on the side of the river where Reno attacked in the thickets and a ways from the hill.

  • @WyomingTraveler
    @WyomingTraveler 2 года назад +11

    Excellent video, your research is first rate

  • @paulhotchkiss1333
    @paulhotchkiss1333 2 года назад +10

    Opening up the video with a picture of the guy, just to say there are no known pictures of him is the funniest thing I’ve seen today and I don’t know why

  • @andywilliams5865
    @andywilliams5865 2 года назад +11

    Just found your channel. Very interesting history. Didn't know that much as from the UK. Thank you

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  • @RichGilpin
    @RichGilpin Год назад +2

    Thank You. I have read a lot of literature on these battles and was unaware of Isaiah Dorman. Well Done.

  • @24408167
    @24408167 2 года назад +4

    Great video mate ,very interesting

  • @GatorNick
    @GatorNick 2 года назад +3

    I have binged all of your videos. Excellent work and I will be back for more. Subscribed

  • @michaeldouglas1243
    @michaeldouglas1243 Год назад +2

    Excellent

  • @tmseaven8694
    @tmseaven8694 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great story and content as usual.

  • @tech6263
    @tech6263 2 года назад +1

    I have a long drive ahead me today. I will be listening to all of your videos on the way.

  • @gaelhistory
    @gaelhistory 2 года назад +3

    This and all your videos are extremely well done! Keep up rhe good work!

  • @ricardocorbie6803
    @ricardocorbie6803 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Sir!! I did not know this bit of History!! Why isn’t this taught?? Thanks again!!❤️

  • @joeparvana9549
    @joeparvana9549 2 года назад +1

    Thought I knew it all about the Battle, didn't know this story. Thanks

  • @wookeybradbury
    @wookeybradbury 2 года назад +16

    Just found your channel. Great videos, very informative. Keep it up!

  • @ElmoUnk1953
    @ElmoUnk1953 2 года назад +2

    Excellent tribute 🇺🇸

  • @z3r0Co0l84
    @z3r0Co0l84 10 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who loves reading into the battle of the little bighorn, i did not know that a black man was a combatant. As time goes along i guess new details are constantly discovered!! Great video!! I shall be subbing!!

  • @cesblack
    @cesblack 2 года назад +10

    I enjoyed the story, but there might have been other black soldiers from the 9th or 10th calvary involved in the early fighting. My reference for this is a book called " Black Elk Speaks" His accounting included seeing other black soldiers. The outcome was the same and part of the true history of the time.

  • @mikechrister2736
    @mikechrister2736 2 года назад +1

    Yeah that was a great story. Told very well also. Thank you sir.

  • @williewonka6694
    @williewonka6694 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting story. I was aware there were a few civilians supporting this mission, but there were actually quite a few specialists, such as scouts, interpreters, journalists and a number of others. I was not aware how much more money some of these specialists were making than the private soldiers, who were expected to fight and die. This video was a good tribute to one of the previously unsung members of the expedition. I hope that someday, stories of all other participants of this battle become better documented for prosperity.

  • @sayhey7482
    @sayhey7482 2 года назад +7

    i remember reading the article some years ago as per his kneeling and firing his sporting rifle pausing to say goodby ,rest ez SOLDIER

  • @MrJeffcoley1
    @MrJeffcoley1 Год назад +3

    My grandma told me "No matter what anyone tells you ... Crazy Horse was black."

  • @kirklaird8345
    @kirklaird8345 2 года назад +1

    Nicely done!

  • @jimmyd4092
    @jimmyd4092 2 года назад +4

    I can't believe I never heard of him till now. Thank you very much.

  • @Beartracks777
    @Beartracks777 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff Man .

  • @dirkbogarde44
    @dirkbogarde44 2 года назад

    Excellent content young Sir. Subbed.

  • @ewmhop
    @ewmhop 2 года назад +2

    great video maybe some more about black troopers of the 9th.and the10th.cav. also the 24th.and the25th.inf.regts.they did more out west then people know..their history is our too.we owned a lot to those young men.

  • @annelefevre9457
    @annelefevre9457 2 года назад +9

    Wow…..what a great story. Thank You! Great man…..Issiah. Those Indians were angry people for how our country treated them. They took their anger out on the corpse’s of the soldiers. We still need to come to PEACE in our land….and the entire world.

    • @vikingirishman1
      @vikingirishman1 2 года назад +2

      @Angry Patriot yep was going to comment the same thing!

  • @wolfganger7012
    @wolfganger7012 2 года назад +1

    What about interest?
    Love the informative video ,well done.

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy 2 года назад +11

    I remember seeing two pictures at West Point Museum that were done by a young warrior who fought at the battle. One was of Custer's defeat and Reno's retreat. In one of them one of the soldiers who gets killed is drawn in brown unlike the others in the drawing. I think this might be Isaiah Dorman, but if he's in the Custer's defeat drawing instead of the Reno one then either I'm wrong about it being Isaiah Dorman or he's in the wrong drawing.

    • @stroopstyle
      @stroopstyle 2 года назад

      If it is the Custer drawing it could portray Mitch Bouyer, the half Native scout who died with Custer… just a thought.

  • @KhyeTheWandereR
    @KhyeTheWandereR Год назад

    You've given me a reason to go to the dakotas

  • @redtomcat1725
    @redtomcat1725 3 месяца назад

    I Learned a bit more about the battle through this. A shame for all !! Soldiers as well as Indians. Indian

  • @dmeinhertzhagen8764
    @dmeinhertzhagen8764 Год назад +1

    How is it possible that his Santee wife was named Céleste Saint-Pierre? That’s a very French sounding name. Was she Métis (half Santee/half French)?

  • @750suzuki
    @750suzuki 2 года назад +1

    '$102 '+ Interest -- could be a hefty sum

  • @AirborneSkier
    @AirborneSkier 2 года назад +1

    Your historical analysis is ‘mind bending.’ Kudos on these superbly researched video presentations.

  • @KenDignam
    @KenDignam 3 месяца назад

    Was that a picture of dorman?,i didnt think there was any

  • @CGM_68
    @CGM_68 Год назад +2

    Worth about $2,820.90 in today's money.

  • @jaygosev3589
    @jaygosev3589 Год назад +4

    Married to a Lakota woman. One of his wife's relatives recognized him as he fell behind during the retreat/charge from the timber. She became enraged that he was fighting against them, cut off his schmeckle, and jammed it in his mouth.

    • @georgemccormick4786
      @georgemccormick4786 6 месяцев назад

      That's the same story I heard years ago So much for loyalty.

  • @darthmikeempiresupporter.1871
    @darthmikeempiresupporter.1871 Год назад +1

    Hollywood hides this story about this brave man. Except Son of morning Star which had a black man in small part in movie get killed in Timber.

  • @sandycarlak3027
    @sandycarlak3027 2 года назад

    I didn't know there were markers of those killed in the valley from Reno's command. I've been to the battlefield 3 times and never knew that. Aren't those on private land? Can you go to them?

    • @striperking6083
      @striperking6083 2 года назад

      You can get permission from Crow land owners , but be wary of ticks in the grass .

    • @sandycarlak3027
      @sandycarlak3027 2 года назад

      @@striperking6083 Do those land owners let you do it?

    • @striperking6083
      @striperking6083 2 года назад

      @ Sandy Clark
      Depends on the landowner .
      2 markers in the valley for 2 scouts with Reno in the valley fight. , One for Isaiah Dorman and the other for Charley Reynolds .
      The 2 markers are just around the corner from Garryowen in the valley .
      You can stop in the Garryowen store and they will give you information on how to access areas connected to the battle .

    • @sandycarlak3027
      @sandycarlak3027 2 года назад +1

      @@striperking6083 I've been in that store and didn't know that. Thanks for the info!

  • @demetriusmontgomery4580
    @demetriusmontgomery4580 2 года назад +1

    Whoever he was ,he should've got the hell outta there!

  • @Ralphie5023
    @Ralphie5023 8 месяцев назад

    Ok , ill see you

  • @getoffenit7827
    @getoffenit7827 Год назад +1

    I cant imagine being caught out in the open with warriors coming at me hard and fast.
    Doesnt appear there was cover of any sort for those 3 men..thats alot of open area to try and get over and into a treeline or a gully

  • @BrianLee-qw7vc
    @BrianLee-qw7vc 2 года назад

    The dream factory rides again.

  • @jaysonparkhurst7422
    @jaysonparkhurst7422 2 года назад +1

    I really wanna see someone claim that $102.50

  • @simonjester0074
    @simonjester0074 2 года назад

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @charlescasey9799
    @charlescasey9799 2 года назад +3

    His death was a bad one he was down off his horse at little big horn when Indians killed him he said goodby to his friend rotten who was retreating also

  • @jwolfbear
    @jwolfbear 2 года назад +2

    WOW my last name is Dorman.

  • @Robo67-24
    @Robo67-24 6 месяцев назад

    102 dollars and 50 cents. Must be more than that now with interest

  • @chiplooper4359
    @chiplooper4359 2 года назад

    Any survivors?

  • @killerjoe5628
    @killerjoe5628 2 года назад

    Reno was so shocked- after seeing his scout's brains blown out?- that he pulled out his gun and ordered his men to take cover? Doesn't sound like shock to me. Sounds like Reno took appropriate action.

  • @jefferyschirm4103
    @jefferyschirm4103 2 года назад

    Was he still dead ??

  • @larry1824
    @larry1824 Год назад

    Dorman who I think was a scout

  • @edmcgowan1570
    @edmcgowan1570 2 года назад

    With interest, inflation, and humility.
    More than the money.

  • @perspellman
    @perspellman 2 года назад

    Great story - but why call the language 'Lakota' and the people 'Sioux'?

  • @rossjones5741
    @rossjones5741 2 года назад +1

    102.50?, not in today's worth, it may have been from 20k to 22k, a good chunk of change if you can prove you're related.

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 5 месяцев назад

    Dorman was not JUST executed....he was horribly tortured ....he SHOULD have not ridden against the Sioux and Cheyenne

  • @troymerrell5790
    @troymerrell5790 2 года назад +1

    $102.50 plus interest lol

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 5 месяцев назад

    Does the army owe INTEREST on that $102??

  • @shuacliff_7029
    @shuacliff_7029 2 года назад

    $102.50 in 1876 adjusted for inflation in 2022 is worth $2,717.84

  • @rodneywoods4477
    @rodneywoods4477 2 года назад +1

    You learn something every day because and this is a fact he would not serve with black solders

  • @demetriusmontgomery4580
    @demetriusmontgomery4580 2 года назад

    You've never seen this in a Hollywood movie!

  • @captainamerica6525
    @captainamerica6525 2 года назад

    102.50 plus interest.

  • @huns12345
    @huns12345 2 года назад

    Don't know what he was thinking,he could of left,now I do.know what he was thinking

  • @jamesdenecochea5709
    @jamesdenecochea5709 2 года назад +2

    If there are "no know photographs of him", why did you include "photos" that implied otherwise?
    This only "distracts" from his story. I understand that RUclips is a "visual" medium, but, showing "photos" of someone who had no known photos, is disingenuous at the very least, and "total fiction" at worst. Please discontinue this practice.

  • @hagiaiit
    @hagiaiit 2 года назад +1

    u mean the Army owes his family $2,811.48 calculated for inflation ;)

  • @rubentammy.esquivel5656
    @rubentammy.esquivel5656 2 года назад

    Aziz family isn't the only army family that's old money .
    But Hey had a choice to stay home he got what he was looking for

  • @steffenrosmus9177
    @steffenrosmus9177 2 года назад +1

    Well.the only black.man fighting forvthw army how is about "Wascicun Sapa" the "black white man" fighting for the Dakota?

  • @rogerross6583
    @rogerross6583 2 года назад

    Very informative, I seen him in “ Son of The Morningstar”, I don’t don’t remember him being named, there were some others, I knew who the were but I don’t remember them being named. I seen Lt Hodgson take a grip on the stirrup. But then getting the arrow in the back after he got to the other side of the river. I made that figure when I made my Reno’s Hill.. I also did Pvt Peter Thompson, worked him running to the river to fill canteens. I believe he got a teal or that..
    I read the book a couple times then I brought the illustrated copy of the books. That movie I am very impressed with. There were some mistakes , but what did accomplish is really very amazing. If they would rerelease it at a theater I sure would be there.

    • @rogerross6583
      @rogerross6583 2 года назад

      Metal

    • @mykhazehayes9504
      @mykhazehayes9504 2 года назад +2

      The movie is stupid and inaccurate, also the the many flaws in Isaiah's history I will call bullshit on this post

  • @johnmoore1290
    @johnmoore1290 2 года назад +2

    My neighbor wrote an extensively researched book about Isaiah.

  • @williamanderson6006
    @williamanderson6006 2 года назад +3

    another race story yippee

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 2 года назад

    There was one at the Alamo
    Being a slave and non combatant
    He was spared!

    • @simonyip5978
      @simonyip5978 2 года назад

      Wasn't slavery abolished by 1876? I'm from the UK but I am sure that slavery was ended after the American Civil War.

    • @angloaust1575
      @angloaust1575 2 года назад

      @@simonyip5978
      The Alamo was 1836 slavery still in operation then!

  • @craigecraw4143
    @craigecraw4143 9 месяцев назад

    Even I. Death he was last.. this is ridiculous.

  • @effewe2
    @effewe2 Год назад +1

    Another reason why we need to revamp out history of all Americans....look up how the term "Teddy Bear" was coined!!!

  • @Davofromdownunder65
    @Davofromdownunder65 2 года назад +1

    $102.50 in what its worth today I hope

  • @patrickroy3380
    @patrickroy3380 2 года назад +3

    Read some books kiddies what the peaceful native American farmers did to Dorman was worse than what they did to Two time medal of honor winner Thomas ward Custer was much worse as he was still alive . Please remember these were US soldiers doing their swore duty versus a enemy that only had one regret what they did to other tribes they couldnt do to the superior white man in numbers or technology. Garryowen

    • @nightowl7261
      @nightowl7261 2 года назад

      Those were soldiers swore to do their duty fighting against warriors swore to protect their ancestral grounds. And they gave Custer the fight he wanted it. Fair fight.

  • @snake_ize136
    @snake_ize136 2 года назад +1

    👍🇺🇸

  • @anntrope491
    @anntrope491 2 года назад +1

    I HAVE A THIRST FOR NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY...I READ "BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE", BY DEE BROWN, WHEN I WAS 13-14... BACK IN 1972-3. UNFORTUNATELY , FOR MYSELF, AN ABENAKI WOMAN, & OTHER NATIVE PEOPLE...OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN IGNORED. DURING NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH...I ONLY HEARD 3-4 MENTIONS OF OUR COLLECTIVE HISTORY ON THE LOCAL ABC AFFILIATE...& ONE WAS ABOUT A MODERN AFRICAN/ AMERICAN WOMAN...VS. AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH...I HEAR SOMETHING EVERYDAY!! WE HAVE AT LEAST 13,000 YEARS HERE, SOME SITES BACK 40,000 YEARS, YET THE MEDIA ONLY CAME UP WITH 3 REFFERENCES!!?? THE COMBINED HISTORY OF NORTH, CENTRAL, & SOUTH AMERICAN HISTORY IS INCREDIBLE...YET WE ARE BEING ERASED FROM THIS LAND THE CREATOR, & MOTHER EARTH GAVE TO US...TO EASE THE COLLECTIVE GUILT, & SHAME OF THE SUPPOSED GOD FEARING, & CIVILIZED WHITE, EUROPEANS...WHO CAME TO CONQUER, CONSUME, & DESTROY THIS BEAUTIFUL EARTH...IN THE NAME OF CAPITALISM! !! I WONDER WHY BURNS, THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTOR, HASN'T TAKEN UP THIS TASK, TO PRESENT TO MODERN "AMERICANS", (SIC), THIS WONDROUSLY COMPLEX HISTORY, BUT INSTEAD, AFTER HIS GREAT CIVIL WAR DOCUMENTARY...HE COVERED BASEBALL, BUT NOT THIS REAL, & IMPORTANT NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY!!?? THIS IS A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE TO ALL THAT DESSEND FROM THE ORIGINAL ANCIENT AMERICANS...THANK YOU FOR FLESHING OUT MORE INFO OF OUR MOST FAMOUS OF BATTLE VICTORIES...MAY OUR PEOPLE, & OUR HISTORY NEVER BE FORGOTTEN, OR LOST FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS!!

  • @shawnmichaelduncan5951
    @shawnmichaelduncan5951 2 года назад +1

    There were black soldiers back then. Indians referenced them as Buffalo soldiers because their looked like hair of Buffalo or commonly called Bison.

  • @charlesfuhs7520
    @charlesfuhs7520 9 месяцев назад

    One guy

  • @jeanheard4615
    @jeanheard4615 2 года назад +4

    Black did a lot that history did not put into books like there was a black navigator on Columbus ship

  • @muginthugin9416
    @muginthugin9416 2 года назад +3

    Cool story Custer was a great warrior fought to save our country end slavery. He died fighting vicious Stone Age killers to protect Americans and employed top rate scouts including Isaiah.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 2 года назад +5

      It was a little less clean cut than that. I've come to the conclusion that the collective conflicts known as the "Indian Wars" are just a long list of both sides commiting atrocities back and forth, with little if any justification either way.

    • @carha472
      @carha472 2 года назад +2

      @@huntclanhunt9697 the atrocity was committed by the whites against the natives,now they want to say that it was a massacre, it was a battle that the natives won.

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 2 года назад +1

      @@carha472 Little Bighorn was a fair fight and the Natives won fairly. Even Reno's men agreed to that.
      That being said, the Indian Wars as a whole is one of the worst set of wars in history. Both sides treated each other atrocious.

    • @AW-ho9vq
      @AW-ho9vq 2 года назад +1

      If the emancipation proclamation had include all tribe's, not just the ones that would hurt the southern states. The U.S. could have made all the people of the USA free. Free! Could use leadership in today's USA.

    • @eugenesant9015
      @eugenesant9015 2 года назад

      @@huntclanhunt9697 if you call 10 guys beating the hell out of 1 a fair fight.

  • @mykhazehayes9504
    @mykhazehayes9504 2 года назад +1

    Lots of indiscretions and info don't have to believe this

  • @haroldharwell7078
    @haroldharwell7078 2 года назад +1

    Must have been a SJW...

  • @larryrobinson6914
    @larryrobinson6914 2 года назад

    Dorman. By all accounts he was butchered

  • @jimhatfield9274
    @jimhatfield9274 2 года назад

    Already knew this but, he was an American not just black.
    You made it racial!

  • @grider421
    @grider421 2 года назад

    who cares…..