I have been licensed since 1981. I bought this bike new in 1999. It was high tech and awesome!! It felt electric smooth. I spanked guys on CBR900RR's. That bike took corners like nothing else at that time.
Got to get another R1, but probably a 2000 MY as they were slightly better, often cheaper and still faithfull to the 98 vision. Thinking back the end of the 90's was a glorious period as bikes were cheaper than any other point in history. I got a new one in 2000 for just 6.5K which meant it was nuts to go for an older used one at the time.
hi mate out of curiosity do you mean a yam dealer street fightered it? I done one of my 5jjs to street fighter myself and it was a total weapon back then was the usual jets/cans/filter but had a head my uncle got me from V&M it was prodrive believe itnor not that done the re-machining and came back to V&M and they would change the Cam shafts etc to suit what racing the bike was doing at the time. I was whooping blackbirds and even beating zx12 and Busas short shifting it mate and it shocked a lot of people how easily it beat them even over 150mph. The figures i sort of remember is it dynod at 140 on the button at the wheel before the 1st stage of work got done , then it was dynod again at 152 or 154 with jet kit, half system (kept the ex-up section for obvious torque reasons for street use) and a very very early edition BMC filter that they actually never sold as an R1 filter unless you phoned them and asked for a fitment. After the new head was on it was dynoing 160 or near but i think we backed it off to 155wheel with a ton of torque and i had to go back again as it got a bit smelly where i couldnt find Optimax (what v-power was called at the time) and when they leaned it out it was up a few HP peak i thing the end figure was 157 wheel 170 Flywheel a load of torque and no stink when i had lesser ron fuel in it. Absolute weapon sir even now it would beat MTs and all that like they were nothing. People wont believe that a street fightered up sportsbike from late 90 would spank their latest 900/1000 sports tourer or naked or streetfighter. Even the big KTMs now mine would have beat im not kidding it would beat my last KTM no sweat and would have beat my 990SMR on part throttle
I saw this for the first time at the NEC bike show at launch, it seemed impossibly small compared to the Fireblade. Some time later I had a demo on one and couldn't believe the acceleration, it was amazing at the time, super fast ! Its crazy that they are now 26 yrs old this year 2024. If I had one I would likely refresh the suspension and use it on fine days only. Lovely classic full on sport bike 🙂, ps by chance had a ride on one again recently..... woooosh..... its still ridiculously fast and a classic now ! Madness!!! In a good way 😂
Great review mate. I've had my original red and white version for 16 years and even now every time I sling my leg over it, it still brings a huge smile to my face. The best bike ever made in my humble opinion.
Had a 99 in this color. I weigh 245 and I am 6’3”. It was amazingly easy to drive, never gave me a problem with the gearbox. I took it on a very long straightaway with the intention of going 175, thinking that would be tough. I got up to 178 and couldn’t believe how much it had left. I backed off at 181-2ish maybe a lil more, it was a quick glance while I backed down. It cornered so nicely too. Never ever ran poorly, ever, ran like a sewing machine as they say. I was told it had 140 from the factory, did he say 150hp in this video?
clocks would show 185-186mph when Yam claimed 177mph top speed on them. GPS ive personally never had on an early model R1 but i know of a late 5jj that done 182gps was flicking 181-182 completely stock even exhaust and i think was at the 12k mile mark as he put the GPS on directly after doing a major service. I had done the valve clearance check on it when he done the run at a place called Crail in scotland prior to the track having its own speed traps they all borrowed the GPS reader back then. It genuinely done 181-182 and ive had people argue 180 max, no this exact stock bike done 182mph stock i know for a fact it did. There wasnt even a jet kit or even a can on it. Completely stock bar the Metzelers i think they were the earlier rensports and the clocks showed 186 when he was doing a genuine 182. Rapid machine man even today its not to be messed with.
@@bigduphusaj162100% agree. People forget just how fast 1000cc sport bikes are, even from the mid 90's but especially from the advent of the R1 on. It changed everything - vertically stacked transmission unit and shorter chassis/wheelbase made everything lighter. The power was a bonus. They dynoed about 140hp to the wheel factory, often 150 with a few minor mods such as filter/airbox/silencer/jetting or EFI tuning. For anyone saying 150hp isn't enough for the street you're either riding in the midrange up to 7k or you're simply living on borrowed time. Most 600's from the late 90's up make 95hp+ to the wheel which is way more than enough, just without the fat midrange of a thousand.
I took one out when they were first launched (I had a year old RRV at the time) absolutely blew me away.. arrived back at the dealers giggling and shaking with excitement and adrenaline. Only bike that came close to my first ride out on a new 350LC years earlier. Awesome bike
I rode a demo red and white one back in the day and I can still remember it.They were gamechangers .I recently bought a blue one which I now have grown to prefer the colour. Thanks.
I was already into bikes and 85 gixxer 750 was my iconic machine even above the blade i had when this thing launched. 4xv/5jj and the later 5VY R1 are the top 10 motorbikes in history. Thats 3 spaces gone out of 10 for the entire recorded history. My personal opinion is the 5jj is the greatest motorcycle in my lifetime.
I was blessed to purchase a 2001 this July! 6,100 miles on it! Changed tires & oil! Rides like a dream! Carbs! 21 plus year old bike looks new! Garage kept black rims jus like this one posted 👌😉
Nice vid mate, thanks! I've also got a 1999 one same as this but in red and white. Bought it very cheap off a friend 8 years ago and I don't intend to sell it till I'm too old to physically swing a leg over it - love it. I do all maintenance etc. on my bike myself and I've been through every nut and bolt, replaced the clutch and all bearings seals etc. I put it back to largely stock with just a couple of concessions like 5JJ (2000-2001) mirrors to better see past shoulders/elbows, braided brake lines and most importantly, I also installed KTech fork internals plus a Nitron rear shock, all correctly set up and sprung for my weight. This totally transformed the handling versus original suspension, the bike is so solid and stable in all road conditions now... steering damper not required, even when giving it some serious beans. I have zero interest in the newer bikes.....sure the latest R1s are so much more powerful but of course they are stacked with rider aids to manage it. IMO these early bikes are still plenty fast, especially when you have zero traction control, ABS etc. But I like that its actually all down to the rider, not some electronic nannies...keeps it real! And subscribed :)
Well filmed sir! 24 years already, I started a painting of it when it was launched, it’s still ongoing. I eventually got my hands on the 02 one same as you reviewed. 🙀👌👍😁
Excellent review 😉 . Just dug mine out after 15 years of being sensible lol. I have full ohlins on mine and seriously dropped bars that used to give me tingly fingers if I wasn't going fast enough. Awesome bike on a well maintained road and just scary on anything else. I miss the quieter roads we used to have in the 90s 😞
Ive owned and raced all important sports bikes over the last 3 decade. Even ones i havent not personally bought or that werent part of our race outfit i have borrowed or been given demo bikes to basically freebie the experience. The original R1 both 4xv and revamped 5jj variants as well as the 5VY R1 are the keepers from now and defo in the top 10 motorbikes of all times regardless of what anyones opinion is.
They are a great bike! I have a blue '98 in showroom condition! I have all of the factory race team mods on it for that year. Up graded gearbox, dual exhaust, Corbin Leather seat, tail delete, etc. As well I have the showroom posters, product pamphets & accessories catalog all in mint shape too!
upgraded box as in the longer ratiod revised 5jj box or did you get the BPd box with the race dogs etc? That modded dogged box they had for BSB was an eye opener i never used the clutch outside take off even using the 1-2 shift to restrict the end of 1st gear wheelie i only had to maintain the throttle position maybe backed off a few degrees to get 2nd gear home in the sweet spot so then i only had to concentrate on the small amount of twist needed to put the thing back on FOT or if the front was staying up i could just leave it on the exact same maintenance throttle to get the front to land enough to steer in a slower speed bend. Modded dog box combined with fork internals and resprung rear shock on on a road going R1 made these utterly humiliate even the race Honda and Ducati bikes of the times on track road or anywhere they were stupid enough to dare race you. People would laugh when i spanked them and basically tell me i was riding the bike they wanted next and openly admitted they liked getting an absolute whooping as they then knew it was as fast as what its reputation quickly suggested. People think H2 and whatever are a modern day power balance hike hahahaha when the 4xv landed there was a moment of silence for every motorbike that had went before it. A proper changing of the guard happened
I rode my 99 R1 for 6 years and when I sold it(yea i cried wanna fight about it) it had a 117k miles on it and 2 transmission rebuilds lol.. finally a titanium gear set fixed second gear problem. Still today one of the best and most unforgiving bikes I ever rode and was viciously fast till the day i sold it
I had a98 reg and I particularly liked the silver wheels it looked absolutely amazing with them suited the colour scheme far better than those boring black ones
Hi mate, great review, got too luv the early R1s 👍. I've got the 1999 4xv R1 had it for 18 years now, totally standard right down to the swing arm stickers and rear reflecter, I take it for a run every couple of weeks to keep the carbs all good, then it's back in the dining room on stands haha sad I know but what the hell. Cheers mate and you've got yourself a new subscriber.. 👍👍😁😁🏍️
Loved my red/white original R1, blades didn't win me over, but the R1 was a league above - small, light and powerful. The original suspension was too soft , but it was brilliant ❤
Alright buddy I'm still looking 😂 I've found some lovely R1s year 2000 and 2002/3 After coming from an RSV mille a year ago which model would you recommend for weekend cruises and some possible track work😂
Nice review. But I get sick and tired of hearing ‘investment opportunity’- it’s a bike bloody ride and enjoy it. Like the deception of wealth you can’t take it with you to eternity.
Had a Gen 2 and Gen 3. Loved them both. Really good on fuel too for some reason. Tried a gen 4. Wasnt keen the "under seat exhaust" model lost its torque with a short stroke engine.
the trans was fine it was the bad riders who didnt know how too wheelie and who changed front sprokets to a non-bushed one that usually destroyed 4xv box. 5jj they had sorted it but you could still lose a tooth or two on 2nd gear if you repeatedly jammed it into second when you accidentally false nuteralled and revved the thing to the moon foolpwed by the forced 2nd shift. The shift forks were fine mate. I raced the things and owned them.
@@bigduphusaj162 So true 👍 I never had 2nd gear go out once i rebuilt it and put a negative cut on the teeth, my 2nd gear was out when i purchased it with 8,000 miles on it , once rebuilt it was good all the way to 42,000 miles no issues, oh and my favorite accessory was my GPR stabilizer 👍
As much as I love all of the new trickle down technology of the new bikes there’s something raw about the ’98 R1. I still enjoy it for street use and mostly that midrange which starts pulling noticeable at 4.5 k. Had to call 21 dealerships to find one 😅 and ppl were paying over 3x MSRP in the USA ( which was about $8700 US if I remember correctly
I just traded a running 83 honda 200s three wheeler for a non running 2000 yamaha r1. Thinkin that was a good trade but it's missing all the vacuum and coolant lines going to the carburetors. Haven't been able to get it running yet.
😊Owner still of blue 98 R-1 ,telling story for a friend.......radar tested at 202Mph outside naples fla on 29 in big cat country of 98 R-1 with slight mods and lite rider,just using 520 chain and 1 tooth less rear sprocket and alittle air flow majic!,look out kitty,s on 29 in the heart of the everyglades.........
yeah i hope you bought them with that issue and never caused it on both yourself😂? BTW the BS surrounding these gearboxes im glad im speaking to someone whos opened one to know what the problem is. People love to blame the forks on any box they keep blowing up but its the teeth get it and get jumpy too as they get worn, Its nothing to do with what people claimed it was. The real reason for the odd 4xv going was the unskilled riders struggling with the violent 1-2shift repeatedly finding a false nuteral and reving its nuts of only to repeatedly ram home 2nd till it found its way in at too high a rev. The other big issue was people fitting cheap daemon tweeks bought front sprokets that werent the same bushed type that came with the bike. Bike became smatchy with them even if you kept the tooth count the same it would shock load the box more than it was intended. These were the earliest cassette type gearboxes and bad riders or daemon tweeks tarts would ruine them. The teeth missing or shaved are 100% from over-revveed false nuteral 1-2 shifts. I raced these, had them on the road and worked on them for racing my uncle chris was the top man at V&N at the time and told me all the issues people were misdiagnosing about a year after they came out. Easy bike to work on btw very little on these 20v genesis lumps needs drilled, some things are tricky but its not to the point you dread doing them. Unlike BMW junk.
I have the 1999 r6 . I love it but im considering after this summer maybe selling it and getting that r1 there . Same colour as my r6 , though if i can get the red/black/white one i will
if you have the early 2000 sold original model R6 with the LED lights and piston crown revision in blue with the black undertray. DO NOT SELL IT now if its in original condition or even able to be put back to original relitively easily. Trust me on this keep it and just buy another bike sir. That specific early LED revision R6 bike with the horizontal YZF and black undertray will be the one that everyone who had one wishes they hadn't sold. You know the model i mean mate?
They sold the very early LED back light and Piston crown revised R6 with the black undertray here in UK with 99 plates on them but was sold as the Y2K model even if you bought it on a 99 reg in late 99 in UK. They are the most desirable of all original R6 models and a low milage mint one is already getting expensive. Hope this helpa
Huge differences, they are two totally different bikes really. 2004 saw the first big switch from the original R1's design. Too many changes to list but one of the most notable was the switch from carbs in fuel injection. The 2004-2006 is the better bike on paper, but the original R1 will be a better investment and ticks the nostalgia boxes. Both awesome bikes either way!
5vy feels like a big 600 top endy needs kept at or above 10k. This doesnt, these feel more old school carb torque at anything above 4500k rpm. 5vy you sit even more over the tank with the low rists that this and 5vy bigger people like 6ft+ will eventually benefit from the fact it just feels like an old racer pedal bike you know the ones the bars bent round the side so you had to lean right over them to ride them, that very feeling you got the first time you rode a racer pedal bike that was far to big for you as a kid, yeah thats exactly how 5vy feels the first time you ride it. Both outrageously brilliant and game changers as well as all time greats. Both will make you terrified and happy in equal amounts.
adding to last commemt if you are a good ridera to the point you can ride in advanced group at track (not boasting but i raced all these bikes for over 3 decades now and maybe done 150k road miles on various R1s) the 5vy is going to be the faster bike by a decent amount but if you arent at minimum that level then they will likely be as fast as each other even if you did do quite a few track days. You can get the 4xv/5jj genesis lump to put out 155 wheel no problem at all reliably with very little cash, the 5VY is gunna be 157-160bhp at the wheel stock but more top endy so wont feel any faster than a well tuned older genesis in the 4xv/5jj. Once you start messing about with the 5vy though they can even be made to beat new stock 1000cc with 190 wheel. One of the fastest "run what you brung" open days at santa pod bikes i seen that was completely ridable as a road bike and was on Vpower pump fuel and a set of michelin 2CTs was a late 5vy model that had been tuned to 190 wheel and forks dropped through the yokes and strapped, it had stock swing arm and the big dude on it done back to back early 9s😂 like 9.05 and 9.07 if i remember. He was beating slightly stretched early model s1000rrs and humiliating even tuned H2s and all that. Total weapon but i dont know if youd want these bikes to be that fast acceleration it wouldnt make them be better bikes they arent drag bikes.
My father used to ride one back in 99/8 there was no clutch for it in Serbia so he crafted one from Jawa his one was same color spec like this i wan't to get a red one
I’m sorry but your bike is not original cos in 98 they came in blue red white and the YZF sticker upon the faring was vertical it wasn’t until the following year the sticker was horizontal
So you know fully know the true importance of this specific Yamaha, see the engineering brilliance behind the stacked cassete type gearbox it came about because Honda had started acting like they owned the place, Honda were paying massive money that simply wouldnt be allowed Today into patents on stuff they had no right to claim ownership of. They tried to patent and own the rights to everything using a crank balancer shaft im not bluffing here its the very reason all other manufacturers kept their gobs shut and let Yamaha, the world leaders and true No#1guys for harmonics pull down Hondas pants and give them a spanking. Another front that was being fought at the time was suspension, Ohlins (yamaha owned at the time and still a yamaha owned company but independent from them) were tasked to keep ducati and every other manufacturer within reach of Hondas massive Race division effort just by having better suspension parts. Suzuki deviated tried to make that silly rotary damper in the TL1000 frighten Honda but eventually were the ones to release the K2 Gixxer 1 so they dropped that nonsense and basically made a cheapened out R1 with 16v head, the same tech Yamaha had created and sold it to you with an ECU running the thing hotter 😂 I love the K2 Gixxer 1 but i regret handing my first 4xv in for it when it was getting all the magazine hype and MCN hype. K2 was brilliant and faster than a stock 4xv/5jj in a straight line. Everywhere else the R1 spanked it and a tuned R1 humiliated a tuned K2. Anyway, Honda out right acted like they were the the school bully l until Yamaha sorted them out with the full "bully gets his head flushed down the pan" moment. Honda the bully got reverse bullied in a way that would the end of Honda acting in a fashion where they thought they could throw cash at already existing tech and claim it as there own. The foothold Honda had for the crank patients they owned was gone overnight, nobody cared anymore as the entire crank assembly and gearbox had been changed for good just by design😂 This is why R1 became so popular back then that it was mind blowing because it was a middle finger to any manufacturer that thought that throwing money at a patent would buy future success. The gearbox on your later 4xv was fine it was the earlier ones that got issues with bad riders missung 1-2 shifts and/or fitting cheap non bushed front sproket or rider just not used to aggresive power wheelies. For the latter type unskilled wheelie rider you will destroy any bikes transmission and drive assembly if you cannot control wheelies enough to land them correctly, there hasn't been a single wheelie happy bike in history that a novice wont destroy even KX500 and CR500s a cack handed fake good rider would destroy the gearbox. The very best you can hope for in a case where youve bought a 'one bad owner wheelie bike' is if they haven't caused cracking at the neck of the frame or ovulated the head race and 1st and 2nd gear hold FOT. The R1 5jj they had the fully revised gearbox with different ratios so it wheelied less in 1-2 gear but would go a fair bit faster than the claimed 177mph. I know of a 2001 completely stock 5jj that GPSs 182mph. They were quoting like 172mph here in the UK at first to undersell it as it was prime "gentelmans agreement" time and still the lingering smell from Thatchers attempt to restrict motorbikes to 100bhp and have a full sized front reg plate (im not joking here btw) so Yamaha vastly undersold its performance here in UK even more than they did in Europe. Ironically the UK got the fastest ones as if you know about the Dyno kit for these bikes the wee brass inserts you had to push in didnt need to use on the UK R1 infact the dynojet kit came with 8 inserts and only 4 fitted the UK bike as the other 4 where the same diameter as what was on it. People in the UK quickly figured out the bike done 180mph so was then changed to a claimed 177mph like the rest of the world had been quoted😂 Theres a wee bit history of these bikes that not many will know or remember about this till they read this. The original R1 by defacto is one of the greatest motorcycles in recorded history. Cheers 🍻
I think I was referring to the fastest accelerating, apologies for the confusion. The original R1 made a simular amount of power as rhe ZZR and Blackbird but was considerably lighter.
what utter nonsense sir. I had two zzr1100r both well tuned with the usual stage mods. I had one mid era blackbird that was modded within a week even brake system seperated mods etc. The 4xv and 5jj R1 battered both in acceleration all the way to 178mph and the blackbird although its speedo showed 196 and all this it was really 180mph. The 4xv they claimed 177-178mph in an era they undersold the bike out of fear of bans hence it was during the early "gentlemans agreement" era. A good 4xv done 178mph GPS and 5jj 182mph GPS with the clocks showing 186mph and not going by that reading. The first bike i owned that beat my 4xv and 5jj accelerating and top speed was Zx12 then busa son and they needed stage 1'd to beat the Yam on the 80-160mph mark. You can argue back but i raced motorbikes from 1991 till 2006 most notable three golds in the R6 cup out of 8 poduims during that period and my uncle ran V&N at the time he wasnt just a worker he was there from the start mate. 4XV R1 could beat zzr1100 like it was nothing man the original R6 gave them a whooping to 135mph hahahaha and Blackbird was the slowest fast bike ive ever owned and would be beat by the 1998 R6 till about 140mph 😂 Seriously mate you dont know what you are looking at. Cheers Edited: apologies mate i had wrote zzr1000 not 1100 i feel a right tool but edited rather than delete.
Mate I've had my 99 since then She was six months old when I took her from a gut a Young guy that was just to frightened 😅 To Ride the Bike I still have her she's 25 now as you say 😊 & I'm a sweet 64 old Just been out for a run today 😂 Lucky lucky me 😊😊 25 years of happy Ness 😂😂🎉 Glad you love the R1 mate As you say it will & can keep up with the best 😊😂😂 Thanks for the video My name is John
I have been licensed since 1981. I bought this bike new in 1999. It was high tech and awesome!! It felt electric smooth. I spanked guys on CBR900RR's. That bike took corners like nothing else at that time.
Got to get another R1, but probably a 2000 MY as they were slightly better, often cheaper and still faithfull to the 98 vision.
Thinking back the end of the 90's was a glorious period as bikes were cheaper than any other point in history. I got a new one in 2000 for just 6.5K which meant it was nuts to go for an older used one at the time.
I’ve got this bike and yeah it’s still an awesome animal mine is streetfightered by Yamaha ,Fantastic review you’ve done this bike proud 👍👍👏
Thanks for the kinds words!
hi mate out of curiosity do you mean a yam dealer street fightered it? I done one of my 5jjs to street fighter myself and it was a total weapon back then was the usual jets/cans/filter but had a head my uncle got me from V&M it was prodrive believe itnor not that done the re-machining and came back to V&M and they would change the Cam shafts etc to suit what racing the bike was doing at the time. I was whooping blackbirds and even beating zx12 and Busas short shifting it mate and it shocked a lot of people how easily it beat them even over 150mph. The figures i sort of remember is it dynod at 140 on the button at the wheel before the 1st stage of work got done , then it was dynod again at 152 or 154 with jet kit, half system (kept the ex-up section for obvious torque reasons for street use) and a very very early edition BMC filter that they actually never sold as an R1 filter unless you phoned them and asked for a fitment. After the new head was on it was dynoing 160 or near but i think we backed it off to 155wheel with a ton of torque and i had to go back again as it got a bit smelly where i couldnt find Optimax (what v-power was called at the time) and when they leaned it out it was up a few HP peak i thing the end figure was 157 wheel 170 Flywheel a load of torque and no stink when i had lesser ron fuel in it. Absolute weapon sir even now it would beat MTs and all that like they were nothing. People wont believe that a street fightered up sportsbike from late 90 would spank their latest 900/1000 sports tourer or naked or streetfighter. Even the big KTMs now mine would have beat im not kidding it would beat my last KTM no sweat and would have beat my 990SMR on part throttle
I love the retro years. I have a 2002 Yamaha r6 and I love it. You detailed it right to the tea. We need more videos like this
Retro???? Uh , would hardly call 24 years old retro.
Thank you for this nice review! I had this exact same model but sold it 12 years ago for my own safety.. it was too much fun :)
I saw this for the first time at the NEC bike show at launch, it seemed impossibly small compared to the Fireblade. Some time later I had a demo on one and couldn't believe the acceleration, it was amazing at the time, super fast ! Its crazy that they are now 26 yrs old this year 2024. If I had one I would likely refresh the suspension and use it on fine days only. Lovely classic full on sport bike 🙂, ps by chance had a ride on one again recently..... woooosh..... its still ridiculously fast and a classic now ! Madness!!! In a good way 😂
Great review mate. I've had my original red and white version for 16 years and even now every time I sling my leg over it, it still brings a huge smile to my face. The best bike ever made in my humble opinion.
Had a 99 in this color. I weigh 245 and I am 6’3”. It was amazingly easy to drive, never gave me a problem with the gearbox. I took it on a very long straightaway with the intention of going 175, thinking that would be tough. I got up to 178 and couldn’t believe how much it had left. I backed off at 181-2ish maybe a lil more, it was a quick glance while I backed down. It cornered so nicely too. Never ever ran poorly, ever, ran like a sewing machine as they say. I was told it had 140 from the factory, did he say 150hp in this video?
clocks would show 185-186mph when Yam claimed 177mph top speed on them. GPS ive personally never had on an early model R1 but i know of a late 5jj that done 182gps was flicking 181-182 completely stock even exhaust and i think was at the 12k mile mark as he put the GPS on directly after doing a major service. I had done the valve clearance check on it when he done the run at a place called Crail in scotland prior to the track having its own speed traps they all borrowed the GPS reader back then. It genuinely done 181-182 and ive had people argue 180 max, no this exact stock bike done 182mph stock i know for a fact it did. There wasnt even a jet kit or even a can on it. Completely stock bar the Metzelers i think they were the earlier rensports and the clocks showed 186 when he was doing a genuine 182. Rapid machine man even today its not to be messed with.
@@bigduphusaj162100% agree. People forget just how fast 1000cc sport bikes are, even from the mid 90's but especially from the advent of the R1 on. It changed everything - vertically stacked transmission unit and shorter chassis/wheelbase made everything lighter. The power was a bonus. They dynoed about 140hp to the wheel factory, often 150 with a few minor mods such as filter/airbox/silencer/jetting or EFI tuning.
For anyone saying 150hp isn't enough for the street you're either riding in the midrange up to 7k or you're simply living on borrowed time. Most 600's from the late 90's up make 95hp+ to the wheel which is way more than enough, just without the fat midrange of a thousand.
130 to the wheel max stock @@boingkster
@@juicy9592 perhaps nowadays for well used examples, sure. The OG dyno tests back in the day usually rated about 140 to the tyre.
@@boingksterlove that “fat midrange”🦾💨
I took one out when they were first launched (I had a year old RRV at the time) absolutely blew me away.. arrived back at the dealers giggling and shaking with excitement and adrenaline. Only bike that came close to my first ride out on a new 350LC years earlier. Awesome bike
I rode a demo red and white one back in the day and I can still remember it.They were gamechangers .I recently bought a blue one which I now have grown to prefer the colour. Thanks.
Awesome! I do love those original colour red and white, but I totally get what you mean about the blue! Enjoy it!
briliant review i have just restored a 5jj r1 its so much better to ride than newer r1"s i have a 4c8 and a big bang and this is the best one
Thanks for the kind words! I would love to do a review of a big bang R1 for comparison.
Love this R1, got me into bikes 👍
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I was already into bikes and 85 gixxer 750 was my iconic machine even above the blade i had when this thing launched. 4xv/5jj and the later 5VY R1 are the top 10 motorbikes in history. Thats 3 spaces gone out of 10 for the entire recorded history. My personal opinion is the 5jj is the greatest motorcycle in my lifetime.
I was blessed to purchase a 2001 this July! 6,100 miles on it! Changed tires & oil! Rides like a dream! Carbs! 21 plus year old bike looks new! Garage kept black rims jus like this one posted 👌😉
Sounds fantastic, don't sell it -I suspect it'll be worth a small fortune in years to come!
Great to see another bike review from you, keep it up!
Thanks! I had great fun with this one, hopefully I'll get the chance to review a few more over summer. 🤞
Nice vid mate, thanks! I've also got a 1999 one same as this but in red and white. Bought it very cheap off a friend 8 years ago and I don't intend to sell it till I'm too old to physically swing a leg over it - love it. I do all maintenance etc. on my bike myself and I've been through every nut and bolt, replaced the clutch and all bearings seals etc. I put it back to largely stock with just a couple of concessions like 5JJ (2000-2001) mirrors to better see past shoulders/elbows, braided brake lines and most importantly, I also installed KTech fork internals plus a Nitron rear shock, all correctly set up and sprung for my weight. This totally transformed the handling versus original suspension, the bike is so solid and stable in all road conditions now... steering damper not required, even when giving it some serious beans. I have zero interest in the newer bikes.....sure the latest R1s are so much more powerful but of course they are stacked with rider aids to manage it. IMO these early bikes are still plenty fast, especially when you have zero traction control, ABS etc. But I like that its actually all down to the rider, not some electronic nannies...keeps it real! And subscribed :)
Well filmed sir! 24 years already, I started a painting of it when it was launched, it’s still ongoing. I eventually got my hands on the 02 one same as you reviewed. 🙀👌👍😁
That sounds like some painting! Thanks for your kind words, I really enjoyed putting this one together. An awesome bike!
Just bought a clean one a few months ago to add to the stable. Love it for sure.
Enjoy it and keep it clean, a great investment!
Excellent review 😉 . Just dug mine out after 15 years of being sensible lol.
I have full ohlins on mine and seriously dropped bars that used to give me tingly fingers if I wasn't going fast enough.
Awesome bike on a well maintained road and just scary on anything else.
I miss the quieter roads we used to have in the 90s 😞
Good to see you back and reviewing again! New camera angles look lush, keep up the great work!
Thanks! I was really impressed with the new camera, a huge improvement. Hopefully it won't be as long until the next review! 😜
Love these reviews. Always gets me wanting to get another bike!
Thanks for your kind words! Get another bike, you have my permission! :)
Great looking bike .even now . I'd love a red and white one . I ride ninja zx9r for 20 years
Beautiful bike away ahead of there time!
Still have mine and i dont intend to sell it any time soon, never gave me problems
Ive owned and raced all important sports bikes over the last 3 decade. Even ones i havent not personally bought or that werent part of our race outfit i have borrowed or been given demo bikes to basically freebie the experience. The original R1 both 4xv and revamped 5jj variants as well as the 5VY R1 are the keepers from now and defo in the top 10 motorbikes of all times regardless of what anyones opinion is.
Still got one in blue great classic enjoyable ride,you dont know what youre missing ,
One bike that hasn’t aged badly at all it still looks very modern
They are a great bike!
I have a blue '98 in showroom condition!
I have all of the factory race team mods on it for that year.
Up graded gearbox, dual exhaust, Corbin Leather seat, tail delete, etc.
As well I have the showroom posters, product pamphets & accessories catalog all in mint shape too!
Sounds mega, a fantastic investment you have there! 👍
How is a bike in show room condition with added on race parts and mods etc???
upgraded box as in the longer ratiod revised 5jj box or did you get the BPd box with the race dogs etc? That modded dogged box they had for BSB was an eye opener i never used the clutch outside take off even using the 1-2 shift to restrict the end of 1st gear wheelie i only had to maintain the throttle position maybe backed off a few degrees to get 2nd gear home in the sweet spot so then i only had to concentrate on the small amount of twist needed to put the thing back on FOT or if the front was staying up i could just leave it on the exact same maintenance throttle to get the front to land enough to steer in a slower speed bend. Modded dog box combined with fork internals and resprung rear shock on on a road going R1 made these utterly humiliate even the race Honda and Ducati bikes of the times on track road or anywhere they were stupid enough to dare race you. People would laugh when i spanked them and basically tell me i was riding the bike they wanted next and openly admitted they liked getting an absolute whooping as they then knew it was as fast as what its reputation quickly suggested. People think H2 and whatever are a modern day power balance hike hahahaha when the 4xv landed there was a moment of silence for every motorbike that had went before it. A proper changing of the guard happened
I rode my 99 R1 for 6 years and when I sold it(yea i cried wanna fight about it) it had a 117k miles on it and 2 transmission rebuilds lol.. finally a titanium gear set fixed second gear problem. Still today one of the best and most unforgiving bikes I ever rode and was viciously fast till the day i sold it
I had a98 reg and I particularly liked the silver wheels it looked absolutely amazing with them suited the colour scheme far better than those boring black ones
Amazing, the old girl has aged like a fine wine 🍷
Thank you for this video, you brought back memories for me. I'm your new subscriber.
Hi mate, great review, got too luv the early R1s 👍. I've got the 1999 4xv R1 had it for 18 years now, totally standard right down to the swing arm stickers and rear reflecter, I take it for a run every couple of weeks to keep the carbs all good, then it's back in the dining room on stands haha sad I know but what the hell. Cheers mate and you've got yourself a new subscriber.. 👍👍😁😁🏍️
Thanks for your kind words! 18 years that's amazing, don't ever sell it!!
Cheers mate, nahh not going to sell it, part of the family now. Haha thanks again. 👍👍👍🏍️🏍️
Yep, varnish in the carbs is an ongoing issue, probably due to the corn muck the government add to petrol, which goes bad pretty quick
God!! what an amazing view!!!
this is a 1999 not a 89 ! there were significant changes done to the 99
Just saw this, awesome machine well demonstrated 👍👏👌
Loved my red/white original R1, blades didn't win me over, but the R1 was a league above - small, light and powerful. The original suspension was too soft , but it was brilliant ❤
An amazing bike, those original red and white ones are fetching good money now!
Awesome review 🔥🔥
No issue of stutter/unrest at low rpm/speed up to 40km/h for instance carline in town?
Alright buddy
I'm still looking 😂 I've found some lovely R1s year 2000 and 2002/3
After coming from an RSV mille a year ago which model would you recommend for weekend cruises and some possible track work😂
Had a 99. Best bike ever made. Best looking bike too.
A fantastic bike even by todays standards!
@@FrontWheelUp Bought the R&W new in 98. Now on an 05. Time marches on.
T313JNT ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS
Had loads of second gear and selector spring issues when I raced one but touch wood no issues on the road version wicked bike
Nice review. But I get sick and tired of hearing ‘investment opportunity’- it’s a bike bloody ride and enjoy it. Like the deception of wealth you can’t take it with you to eternity.
Had a Gen 2 and Gen 3. Loved them both. Really good on fuel too for some reason. Tried a gen 4. Wasnt keen the "under seat exhaust" model lost its torque with a short stroke engine.
I miss my 2001 R1 love the carburetor models
If only the transmission shift forks were stronger 😉 The common 2nd gear wheelie
Marko fuel injection for these bikes didn’t come out until 2002
2001 carbureted , look it up
the trans was fine it was the bad riders who didnt know how too wheelie and who changed front sprokets to a non-bushed one that usually destroyed 4xv box. 5jj they had sorted it but you could still lose a tooth or two on 2nd gear if you repeatedly jammed it into second when you accidentally false nuteralled and revved the thing to the moon foolpwed by the forced 2nd shift. The shift forks were fine mate. I raced the things and owned them.
@@bigduphusaj162 So true 👍 I never had 2nd gear go out once i rebuilt it and put a negative cut on the teeth, my 2nd gear was out when i purchased it with 8,000 miles on it , once rebuilt it was good all the way to 42,000 miles no issues, oh and my favorite accessory was my GPR stabilizer 👍
As much as I love all of the new trickle down technology of the new bikes there’s something raw about the ’98 R1. I still enjoy it for street use and mostly that midrange which starts pulling noticeable at 4.5 k.
Had to call 21 dealerships to find one 😅 and ppl were paying over 3x MSRP in the USA ( which was about $8700 US if I remember correctly
It's still an amazing bike! 👌
Ahh I ordered a 1999 one n November 1998, loved that bike.
Iconic!
Beautiful Bike…😍
100% 👌
I just traded a running 83 honda 200s three wheeler for a non running 2000 yamaha r1. Thinkin that was a good trade but it's missing all the vacuum and coolant lines going to the carburetors. Haven't been able to get it running yet.
😊Owner still of blue 98 R-1 ,telling story for a friend.......radar tested at 202Mph outside naples fla on 29 in big cat country of 98 R-1 with slight mods and lite rider,just using 520 chain and 1 tooth less rear sprocket and alittle air flow majic!,look out kitty,s on 29 in the heart of the everyglades.........
I had 2 with bad second gear a 2000 and a 99. Still have the 2000.second gear doesnt slip but makes a ticking..
Yea man I've got a 98 and I thing 2nd gear was the weak link
I actually fixed it over the winter had a broken tooth on second. Replaced 2nd and 6th. Kind of a messy job you gotta tear down the whole motor.
yeah i hope you bought them with that issue and never caused it on both yourself😂? BTW the BS surrounding these gearboxes im glad im speaking to someone whos opened one to know what the problem is. People love to blame the forks on any box they keep blowing up but its the teeth get it and get jumpy too as they get worn, Its nothing to do with what people claimed it was. The real reason for the odd 4xv going was the unskilled riders struggling with the violent 1-2shift repeatedly finding a false nuteral and reving its nuts of only to repeatedly ram home 2nd till it found its way in at too high a rev. The other big issue was people fitting cheap daemon tweeks bought front sprokets that werent the same bushed type that came with the bike. Bike became smatchy with them even if you kept the tooth count the same it would shock load the box more than it was intended. These were the earliest cassette type gearboxes and bad riders or daemon tweeks tarts would ruine them. The teeth missing or shaved are 100% from over-revveed false nuteral 1-2 shifts. I raced these, had them on the road and worked on them for racing my uncle chris was the top man at V&N at the time and told me all the issues people were misdiagnosing about a year after they came out. Easy bike to work on btw very little on these 20v genesis lumps needs drilled, some things are tricky but its not to the point you dread doing them. Unlike BMW junk.
I have the 1999 r6 . I love it but im considering after this summer maybe selling it and getting that r1 there . Same colour as my r6 , though if i can get the red/black/white one i will
if you have the early 2000 sold original model R6 with the LED lights and piston crown revision in blue with the black undertray. DO NOT SELL IT now if its in original condition or even able to be put back to original relitively easily. Trust me on this keep it and just buy another bike sir. That specific early LED revision R6 bike with the horizontal YZF and black undertray will be the one that everyone who had one wishes they hadn't sold. You know the model i mean mate?
They sold the very early LED back light and Piston crown revised R6 with the black undertray here in UK with 99 plates on them but was sold as the Y2K model even if you bought it on a 99 reg in late 99 in UK. They are the most desirable of all original R6 models and a low milage mint one is already getting expensive. Hope this helpa
What kind of motor was in these?
998cc inline four
mint
How does this compare to the 04-06 what are the main advantages/disadvantages???
Huge differences, they are two totally different bikes really. 2004 saw the first big switch from the original R1's design. Too many changes to list but one of the most notable was the switch from carbs in fuel injection. The 2004-2006 is the better bike on paper, but the original R1 will be a better investment and ticks the nostalgia boxes. Both awesome bikes either way!
5vy feels like a big 600 top endy needs kept at or above 10k. This doesnt, these feel more old school carb torque at anything above 4500k rpm. 5vy you sit even more over the tank with the low rists that this and 5vy bigger people like 6ft+ will eventually benefit from the fact it just feels like an old racer pedal bike you know the ones the bars bent round the side so you had to lean right over them to ride them, that very feeling you got the first time you rode a racer pedal bike that was far to big for you as a kid, yeah thats exactly how 5vy feels the first time you ride it. Both outrageously brilliant and game changers as well as all time greats. Both will make you terrified and happy in equal amounts.
adding to last commemt if you are a good ridera to the point you can ride in advanced group at track (not boasting but i raced all these bikes for over 3 decades now and maybe done 150k road miles on various R1s) the 5vy is going to be the faster bike by a decent amount but if you arent at minimum that level then they will likely be as fast as each other even if you did do quite a few track days. You can get the 4xv/5jj genesis lump to put out 155 wheel no problem at all reliably with very little cash, the 5VY is gunna be 157-160bhp at the wheel stock but more top endy so wont feel any faster than a well tuned older genesis in the 4xv/5jj. Once you start messing about with the 5vy though they can even be made to beat new stock 1000cc with 190 wheel. One of the fastest "run what you brung" open days at santa pod bikes i seen that was completely ridable as a road bike and was on Vpower pump fuel and a set of michelin 2CTs was a late 5vy model that had been tuned to 190 wheel and forks dropped through the yokes and strapped, it had stock swing arm and the big dude on it done back to back early 9s😂 like 9.05 and 9.07 if i remember. He was beating slightly stretched early model s1000rrs and humiliating even tuned H2s and all that. Total weapon but i dont know if youd want these bikes to be that fast acceleration it wouldnt make them be better bikes they arent drag bikes.
I still find the 98 R1 gorgeous.
The fireblade was the original but decent review
Exactly my bike.
Excellent choice!
My father used to ride one back in 99/8 there was no clutch for it in Serbia so he crafted one from Jawa his one was same color spec like this i wan't to get a red one
That's some impressive craftmanship! It's an iconic bike, still as much fun today as it was back then.
I’ve got the 1st gen FZ1, and I’d love to ride the R1 to compare it with.
Two very different bikes! The problem is the R1 is an addictive drug, if you ride on you'll end up wanting to buy one!
@@FrontWheelUp I met a guy at QT had a 1st gen R1, thing had been completely ran-over by a pickup truck(!) He still wouldn’t sell it, lol.
Suzuki GSXR 1000 K5 review?
Ilove my '99 R1 :o)
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This bike has 1999 fairings and 2000s wheels
Needs a steering damper as far as i remember lol!!
It's a 1999 not 98. Same apart from graphics.
I’m sorry but your bike is not original cos in 98 they came in blue red white and the YZF sticker upon the faring was vertical it wasn’t until the following year the sticker was horizontal
Yep ,I've since been informed. An awesome bike none the less!
Looks just like mine, can see on my channel... Nice vid 👍
Thanks! I'll check it out 👍
@@FrontWheelUp thx, you got a new subscriber
@@BraapEffex back at ya 🤘
So you know fully know the true importance of this specific Yamaha, see the engineering brilliance behind the stacked cassete type gearbox it came about because Honda had started acting like they owned the place, Honda were paying massive money that simply wouldnt be allowed Today into patents on stuff they had no right to claim ownership of. They tried to patent and own the rights to everything using a crank balancer shaft im not bluffing here its the very reason all other manufacturers kept their gobs shut and let Yamaha, the world leaders and true No#1guys for harmonics pull down Hondas pants and give them a spanking. Another front that was being fought at the time was suspension, Ohlins (yamaha owned at the time and still a yamaha owned company but independent from them) were tasked to keep ducati and every other manufacturer within reach of Hondas massive Race division effort just by having better suspension parts. Suzuki deviated tried to make that silly rotary damper in the TL1000 frighten Honda but eventually were the ones to release the K2 Gixxer 1 so they dropped that nonsense and basically made a cheapened out R1 with 16v head, the same tech Yamaha had created and sold it to you with an ECU running the thing hotter 😂 I love the K2 Gixxer 1 but i regret handing my first 4xv in for it when it was getting all the magazine hype and MCN hype. K2 was brilliant and faster than a stock 4xv/5jj in a straight line. Everywhere else the R1 spanked it and a tuned R1 humiliated a tuned K2. Anyway, Honda out right acted like they were the the school bully l until Yamaha sorted them out with the full "bully gets his head flushed down the pan" moment. Honda the bully got reverse bullied in a way that would the end of Honda acting in a fashion where they thought they could throw cash at already existing tech and claim it as there own. The foothold Honda had for the crank patients they owned was gone overnight, nobody cared anymore as the entire crank assembly and gearbox had been changed for good just by design😂 This is why R1 became so popular back then that it was mind blowing because it was a middle finger to any manufacturer that thought that throwing money at a patent would buy future success.
The gearbox on your later 4xv was fine it was the earlier ones that got issues with bad riders missung 1-2 shifts and/or fitting cheap non bushed front sproket or rider just not used to aggresive power wheelies. For the latter type unskilled wheelie rider you will destroy any bikes transmission and drive assembly if you cannot control wheelies enough to land them correctly, there hasn't been a single wheelie happy bike in history that a novice wont destroy even KX500 and CR500s a cack handed fake good rider would destroy the gearbox. The very best you can hope for in a case where youve bought a 'one bad owner wheelie bike' is if they haven't caused cracking at the neck of the frame or ovulated the head race and 1st and 2nd gear hold FOT. The R1 5jj they had the fully revised gearbox with different ratios so it wheelied less in 1-2 gear but would go a fair bit faster than the claimed 177mph. I know of a 2001 completely stock 5jj that GPSs 182mph. They were quoting like 172mph here in the UK at first to undersell it as it was prime "gentelmans agreement" time and still the lingering smell from Thatchers attempt to restrict motorbikes to 100bhp and have a full sized front reg plate (im not joking here btw) so Yamaha vastly undersold its performance here in UK even more than they did in Europe. Ironically the UK got the fastest ones as if you know about the Dyno kit for these bikes the wee brass inserts you had to push in didnt need to use on the UK R1 infact the dynojet kit came with 8 inserts and only 4 fitted the UK bike as the other 4 where the same diameter as what was on it. People in the UK quickly figured out the bike done 180mph so was then changed to a claimed 177mph like the rest of the world had been quoted😂 Theres a wee bit history of these bikes that not many will know or remember about this till they read this. The original R1 by defacto is one of the greatest motorcycles in recorded history. Cheers 🍻
Yeah don’t ride a bike if you need a steering damper. That goes across the board
The R1 was never the fastest production bike.
Even the ZZR1100 had a higher top speed.
The R1 was quick but not blackbird quick
I think I was referring to the fastest accelerating, apologies for the confusion.
The original R1 made a simular amount of power as rhe ZZR and Blackbird but was considerably lighter.
what utter nonsense sir. I had two zzr1100r both well tuned with the usual stage mods. I had one mid era blackbird that was modded within a week even brake system seperated mods etc. The 4xv and 5jj R1 battered both in acceleration all the way to 178mph and the blackbird although its speedo showed 196 and all this it was really 180mph. The 4xv they claimed 177-178mph in an era they undersold the bike out of fear of bans hence it was during the early "gentlemans agreement" era. A good 4xv done 178mph GPS and 5jj 182mph GPS with the clocks showing 186mph and not going by that reading. The first bike i owned that beat my 4xv and 5jj accelerating and top speed was Zx12 then busa son and they needed stage 1'd to beat the Yam on the 80-160mph mark. You can argue back but i raced motorbikes from 1991 till 2006 most notable three golds in the R6 cup out of 8 poduims during that period and my uncle ran V&N at the time he wasnt just a worker he was there from the start mate. 4XV R1 could beat zzr1100 like it was nothing man the original R6 gave them a whooping to 135mph hahahaha and Blackbird was the slowest fast bike ive ever owned and would be beat by the 1998 R6 till about 140mph 😂 Seriously mate you dont know what you are looking at. Cheers
Edited: apologies mate i had wrote zzr1000 not 1100 i feel a right tool but edited rather than delete.
I have one! Its my only bike and use it daily. Very happy with it even after 2 years ownership. Check my channel for videos
It's a fantastic bike, even by todays high standards. Will check out your channel!
Mate I've had my 99 since then
She was six months old when I took her from a gut a Young guy that was just to frightened 😅
To Ride the Bike
I still have her she's 25 now as you say 😊 & I'm a sweet 64 old
Just been out for a run today 😂
Lucky lucky me 😊😊
25 years of happy Ness 😂😂🎉
Glad you love the R1 mate
As you say it will & can keep up with the best 😊😂😂
Thanks for the video
My name is John
Thanks for the kind words John, glad to hear you are still enjoying the bike. An awesome bit of kit, even by todays standards!