I have the Ignik and love it!! Love the video and Gretchen in the background..haha in the beginning of the video when talking/showing stuff she was just standing there awkwardly which added some comedy to it for me.. not sure if that was intended but it was good!!haha Love the channel and the people that you have on with you as always!! Such a great group of friends We need more Gretchen cuz she is awesome!! Safe travels all!!
I have the tripod torch and love it. Used it on the Whipsaw trail in BC and on the Rubicon. Worked great. I overland in my 2dr JLR so the compactness is awesomeness.
I have the original LavaBox. Love it! Would have no other. But I have to say there is no way I would have the control on the side of the lava box itself. You will set yourself on fire!. 🤣 Seriously. It's so simple to set the propane tank next to your camp chair and adjust the flame from a safe distance. On another note, a friend who bought an Ignik now wishes they hadn't, once they saw how well the LavaBox kicks out heat. Oh yeah, LavaBox's are made in Colorado, USA by a small locally owned company.
Personal experience with the Ignik is that it is ok, fuel efficent but not quite warm enough. If you have only 5 lb tank and min space that is the one to get. I use it primarily with my Jeep Wrangler since space is super limited. Now if you can do a larger tank and pit then get the 14" square one from Outland and grab a bag. The heat it puts out is better and honestly don't feel it uses that much more propane. It's my favorite pit. Now I have one extra to recommend if you can burn wood or pellets. That is East Oak table top fire pit. It is only 10" tall x 7" wide and will put out a ton of heat. If I can burn wood or pellets that is the one I bring. No ash after you are done and pretty warm for the size!
Have a lavenox and a tri pod torch. Use the lava box around home while sitting in the driveway or in the garage. Tripod torch works well while trying to save space in my JL
Have the orignal lava box and love it. It does burn alot of propane. When the flame dies down like that i have noticed my 20lb propane tank is kinda frozen swap with a fresh tank and were good to go again.
Throw an adjustable 20 PSI regulator on the old school round pit nd it will rip. Throw in in a big canvas duffle or buy a carry bag and it will be well contained.
I have the Ignik. Super compact and near perfect after lugging around one of the big ones like you reviewed. Downside is there isn’t much adjustment. High or low and the low isn’t very low.
Pretty sure you're not suppose to run any tank on its side.. Doing this allows the propane to leave the bottle in liquid format, dangerous,, and that's why everything froze up.. Tank needs to be upright or on an angle to only allow propane to leave in a gaseous state.
@@jonathanconway7256 it won't, but that's not the problem. It freezes things like the regulator. With unregulated propane flowing it will reach the point where the proper fuel to air ratio is met. That could cause a huge area to ignite.
Propane is liquid and must be allowed to vaporize in the open space at the top of the cylinder before use. Laying the cylinder on its side allows liquid to exit through the regulator and is dangerous. Liquid Propane is extremely cold which is why the regulator froze. This is the same reason you should always travel with your propane tanks in the vertical position so the blow off valves can operate properly in high temperatures. Also, Firebox will not use a quick connection because 20 PSI surpasses the safety standard for the quick connect and can cause a dangerous leak. Cheers.
I have the standard round firepit but im working with a 2 door Jk so if I had to choose I would pick a Ignik Firecan. Its more portable and doesnt break the bank.
I had similar thoughts about the Tripod Torch the first time I saw it. However, I ended up getting one and have used it on a few camping trips and I love it. 1) Use the legs to connect the hose as they double as spanners 2) Heat output is great especially with being able to use the shields 3) I have had the regulator freeze on my 5lb in cold weather, but found a hand warmer thrown on the regulator prevents this.
@ no problem! Also I dulled all the edges and threw in some cheap gloves in my bag as you are right, the edges can be sharp! This thing saved our late night hangouts while camping in burn bans. It's been a great addition.
I bought an Outbound brand portable propane fire pit. It's kind of like a generic propane fire, but smaller. It's a rectangle that's like 6 inches tall, and it has legs that fold up and lock on the lid. It's pretty sweet but also pretty mediocre. I bought it to run on green propane bottles. It lasts about an hour on one, and the bottle does freeze up, but it's not that bad if you're not on high. I stay away from high to save fuel anyways. I sometimes wish I bought a lava box or some other ammo can style fire, they seem to have more juice. Ultimately though, I don't really use it that much. In the summer the sun is usually out late, and then the rest of the year I have regular fires. I think it retails for $199 at canadian tire, but if you wait for a sale you can usually save 20-25%. I did a review a couple years ago on my channel.
I have heard that the gas port on the ignik can be drilled out and it will get close to the lavabox with flame height. Obviously not manufacturer recommended All pressurized gas containers cool down when the gas is let out. The little green cans are smaller so they cool down more and freeze up easily
You need to try a heat deflector on them. Im sure that would keep the heat from just escaping up and force it out to the people wanting to enjoy more heat.
I wonder if the small propane cylinder was placed upright so the regulator does not have any liquid entering it, would help alleviate it from freezing?
Ammo can fire pits work very well. You can DIY one for a fraction of the price, and the original idea was introduced many many years ago on Expedition Portal.
I DIY'd mine a couple of years ago and I forget what I spent but I'm thinking somewhere between $60 and $80 CAN. Just get your brass from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot.
you could have also put the 11 pound tank on a scale and burned a pound off its weight for each test. I run a camco round firepit that has a bag it goes in to keep the rocks from going everywhere. It puts out more heat than the ignik (friend has one) but it has its own set of problems. Also when I keep my tank in the back of my truck I run a 10 foot extension from the tank and then to the regulator / firepit connection hose so even though the regulator is on the end of the 6 foot hose, its only 6 feet away from the pit (16 feet total from the truck).
I tried that, it was very hard to measure. My assumption is that as the liquid turns to gas inside the cylinder, the weight fluctuates until it settles back down again. It was very hard to get a useful measurement that was accurate enough while burning propane report any results.
@@Casey250 thats cool. I mean I've never tried that test or anything. I just know when there's 11 pounds of propane in a tank it means there is literally 11 pounds of propane in the tank and burning 1 pound should make it 10 pounds of fuel left. I don't think physics says some amount of vaporized fuel weighs less but what that looks like on a bathroom scale or something you found out.
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I have the tembo tusk which is probably one the more popular firepits in our circle of overlanders so I am surprised it was not on here. Tembo tusk takes the win for compactness and flame
What are you on about? Uh tembo tusks is a grill lol. These are fire pits for warmth. Sure you can cook with some of these but this is not their main function.
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You have to stand the 1 pound can up in order for it to burn properly
I have the Ignik and love it!!
Love the video and Gretchen in the background..haha in the beginning of the video when talking/showing stuff she was just standing there awkwardly which added some comedy to it for me.. not sure if that was intended but it was good!!haha
Love the channel and the people that you have on with you as always!! Such a great group of friends
We need more Gretchen cuz she is awesome!!
Safe travels all!!
love my original lavabox
I have the tripod torch and love it. Used it on the Whipsaw trail in BC and on the Rubicon. Worked great. I overland in my 2dr JLR so the compactness is awesomeness.
This video looks like it would have taken a fair about of effort and time which I appreciate. Very informative. Great!! Job
It took 2 days! Thanks!
I have the original LavaBox. Love it! Would have no other. But I have to say there is no way I would have the control on the side of the lava box itself. You will set yourself on fire!. 🤣 Seriously. It's so simple to set the propane tank next to your camp chair and adjust the flame from a safe distance. On another note, a friend who bought an Ignik now wishes they hadn't, once they saw how well the LavaBox kicks out heat. Oh yeah, LavaBox's are made in Colorado, USA by a small locally owned company.
To be honest. I would be just as happy to support LavaBox if the were made by a small local company in BC.
Personal experience with the Ignik is that it is ok, fuel efficent but not quite warm enough. If you have only 5 lb tank and min space that is the one to get. I use it primarily with my Jeep Wrangler since space is super limited. Now if you can do a larger tank and pit then get the 14" square one from Outland and grab a bag. The heat it puts out is better and honestly don't feel it uses that much more propane. It's my favorite pit. Now I have one extra to recommend if you can burn wood or pellets. That is East Oak table top fire pit. It is only 10" tall x 7" wide and will put out a ton of heat. If I can burn wood or pellets that is the one I bring. No ash after you are done and pretty warm for the size!
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Have a lavenox and a tri pod torch. Use the lava box around home while sitting in the driveway or in the garage. Tripod torch works well while trying to save space in my JL
Have the orignal lava box and love it. It does burn alot of propane. When the flame dies down like that i have noticed my 20lb propane tank is kinda frozen swap with a fresh tank and were good to go again.
Part of the 14 percent here. Lol. I like the tripod torch a lot. See you at Sema.
I have the standard round pit, lid locks on and it has a heavy duty bag. Put it under an awning or a pop up shelter and it heats up a big area
Throw an adjustable 20 PSI regulator on the old school round pit nd it will rip. Throw in in a big canvas duffle or buy a carry bag and it will be well contained.
I swear by my Howl H4 Campfire. It's pricey, but is hand-built to last a lifetime, with unbelievable performance.
I have the Ignik. Super compact and near perfect after lugging around one of the big ones like you reviewed. Downside is there isn’t much adjustment. High or low and the low isn’t very low.
Pretty sure you're not suppose to run any tank on its side.. Doing this allows the propane to leave the bottle in liquid format, dangerous,, and that's why everything froze up.. Tank needs to be upright or on an angle to only allow propane to leave in a gaseous state.
Pretty sure liquid propane doesn't burn
@@jonathanconway7256 it won't, but that's not the problem. It freezes things like the regulator. With unregulated propane flowing it will reach the point where the proper fuel to air ratio is met. That could cause a huge area to ignite.
Liquid through regulator flashing to vapor and or mix in hose. Tank has to be upright.
Propane is liquid and must be allowed to vaporize in the open space at the top of the cylinder before use. Laying the cylinder on its side allows liquid to exit through the regulator and is dangerous. Liquid Propane is extremely cold which is why the regulator froze. This is the same reason you should always travel with your propane tanks in the vertical position so the blow off valves can operate properly in high temperatures. Also, Firebox will not use a quick connection because 20 PSI surpasses the safety standard for the quick connect and can cause a dangerous leak. Cheers.
I have the standard round firepit but im working with a 2 door Jk so if I had to choose I would pick a Ignik Firecan. Its more portable and doesnt break the bank.
The tripod torch is cool you can easy build one for less than half the cost and make it more sturdy
I had similar thoughts about the Tripod Torch the first time I saw it.
However, I ended up getting one and have used it on a few camping trips and I love it.
1) Use the legs to connect the hose as they double as spanners
2) Heat output is great especially with being able to use the shields
3) I have had the regulator freeze on my 5lb in cold weather, but found a hand warmer thrown on the regulator prevents this.
I didn't even notice the spanner would be for the hose. Thanks!
@ no problem! Also I dulled all the edges and threw in some cheap gloves in my bag as you are right, the edges can be sharp! This thing saved our late night hangouts while camping in burn bans. It's been a great addition.
If you put the adjustable regulator on the standard pits they will work like the lava box.
This is a great idea for a video. Thanks!!!
I actually laughed out loud at the cover picture of the video.
I bought an Outbound brand portable propane fire pit. It's kind of like a generic propane fire, but smaller. It's a rectangle that's like 6 inches tall, and it has legs that fold up and lock on the lid. It's pretty sweet but also pretty mediocre. I bought it to run on green propane bottles. It lasts about an hour on one, and the bottle does freeze up, but it's not that bad if you're not on high. I stay away from high to save fuel anyways. I sometimes wish I bought a lava box or some other ammo can style fire, they seem to have more juice. Ultimately though, I don't really use it that much. In the summer the sun is usually out late, and then the rest of the year I have regular fires. I think it retails for $199 at canadian tire, but if you wait for a sale you can usually save 20-25%. I did a review a couple years ago on my channel.
I have heard that the gas port on the ignik can be drilled out and it will get close to the lavabox with flame height. Obviously not manufacturer recommended
All pressurized gas containers cool down when the gas is let out. The little green cans are smaller so they cool down more and freeze up easily
You need to try a heat deflector on them. Im sure that would keep the heat from just escaping up and force it out to the people wanting to enjoy more heat.
I wonder if the small propane cylinder was placed upright so the regulator does not have any liquid entering it, would help alleviate it from freezing?
Ammo can fire pits work very well. You can DIY one for a fraction of the price, and the original idea was introduced many many years ago on Expedition Portal.
I DIY'd mine a couple of years ago and I forget what I spent but I'm thinking somewhere between $60 and $80 CAN. Just get your brass from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot.
you could have also put the 11 pound tank on a scale and burned a pound off its weight for each test. I run a camco round firepit that has a bag it goes in to keep the rocks from going everywhere. It puts out more heat than the ignik (friend has one) but it has its own set of problems. Also when I keep my tank in the back of my truck I run a 10 foot extension from the tank and then to the regulator / firepit connection hose so even though the regulator is on the end of the 6 foot hose, its only 6 feet away from the pit (16 feet total from the truck).
I tried that, it was very hard to measure. My assumption is that as the liquid turns to gas inside the cylinder, the weight fluctuates until it settles back down again. It was very hard to get a useful measurement that was accurate enough while burning propane report any results.
@@Casey250 thats cool. I mean I've never tried that test or anything. I just know when there's 11 pounds of propane in a tank it means there is literally 11 pounds of propane in the tank and burning 1 pound should make it 10 pounds of fuel left. I don't think physics says some amount of vaporized fuel weighs less but what that looks like on a bathroom scale or something you found out.
As you experienced, I noticed Ignik says their system is not compatible with the little green disposable propane tanks. 😂
Pro tip for propane fire pit people: Be nice to the Karens and Chads that will undoubtedly think you are trying to burn down the forest (Note: I’m a propane fire pit person). Pro tip to Karens and Chads: The later it is in the evening is directly proportional to the amount of whiskey consumed. It is also inversely proportional to the amount of patience the whiskeyed up propane person is going to display at your walking into the campsite unannounced. Dear Tim (supposed name of Durango Colorado campground employee); Tell your Chad friend I’m sorry I was such an asshole, and refer him to the above pro tips.
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Set the 1lb upright!
That tripod thing is scarey
Casey, I’m really confused…you’re Canadian, why are you talking in Fahrenheit?
I have the tembo tusk which is probably one the more popular firepits in our circle of overlanders so I am surprised it was not on here. Tembo tusk takes the win for compactness and flame
What are you on about? Uh tembo tusks is a grill lol. These are fire pits for warmth. Sure you can cook with some of these but this is not their main function.
@@rivaled They also make a propane fire pit that is collapsible.
Prefer my Tacticool veteran made propane fire pit.
Ukiah is pronounced “yoo-kai-uh”, fyi.
Wouldn't pay 89 for that flimsy thing
Thanks. Shorten these up. This video only needs to be 10 minutes long.
Great you had Gretchen on your channel. She's a real hoot! Cool you did a few options. We started with a Out Land Living firebowl 883, which is 24". Way to big once we started overlanding. We've gone to a DIY Kit from Tacticool Fire Pits which uses a Ammo can when we can't use our Pop-up Fire Pit. By far the cheapest coming in at $69 US not including the ammo can or labor to assemble. Fun project and puts out the highest flame on the market! No eyebrows guaranteed 😂.
Thanks for creating such a fun review!
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