I rolled my Hilux not long ago, the assessor valued it higher (41k) than what I owed on finance (38k)... no extra mods, same as when I bought it. So when insurance was paid out I walked away 3k better off. Used that as deposit for new Hilux 😄
Lol, yeah, the Toyota's arent very planted on the road. Fortuners also flip over easily, Hilux's only now BARELY pass the "moose test". You dont buy a Toyota Hilux for its road holding capabilities. Or its fuel consumption, or its cabin space, or its price, or its comfy seats on long journeys. I guess you JUST buy it for its resale value, and suffer all the time until you sell it lol.
I imagine the ranger is a great machine but I'd bet a Hilux would still be on the road in 20 plus years time without any issues whereas the ranger would not but still the ranger would be a great purchase
I had the same view about bakkies.......said I am not a bakkie man for various reasons. But when we were to do a vehicle change and a deal came up which could work for us........I started the bakkie test driving etc. Weighing up the options etc. In short the biggest problem for me was it is going to be a daily driver and picking up kids with bags and wife works etc. Needs to stop at shops sometimes where do you safely put all the stuff??? So after doing some market research and comparing load-bin options such as the Armadillo, we decided on the RigiDek solution. Which literally turns the load bay into a massive boot. And it is remote operated with courtesy lights. So far it seems good. You will have to do rubber sealing of the tailgate to prevent that dust from gravel roads when you go on your adventures to not make all luggage so dusty. We opted for the Mitsubishi Triton due the the bakkie not being overly bulky, turning circle is nothing short of amazing fairly comfortable drive compared to other bakkies. Rear leg room I think is still best in class. But it is early days and we will see how the bakkie thing works for us in the long run. Thanks for the great reviews........
I bought a 2.2 Double Cab Ranger in 2016. The vehicle came with a incorrectly fitted brake pipe that the dealer had to fix after the first day of ownership, it made a awful noise when turning the steering wheel. Within the first week the Ranger also developed a rattle in the dashboard which resulted in the dashboard being disassembled and found that the passenger airbags were not tightened correctly. I was told that Ford would not be interested in fixing any other rattles after 3 months. After more than 12 visits in 2016/2017 for various issues i.e. throttle bodies, dead infotainment, rattles etc I decided to sell the vehicle as most of my time was spent arguing with the dealer in Port Elizabeth. I decided to purchase an Xtra Cab Hilux and all my problems went away. The dealer was friendly and the service is still good. I’ll never own a Ford product ever again, their dealers are arrogant and their product is unfortunately not any good. The Toyota experience is much better and they look after you.
As they say: Any used car is better than a brand new FORD.Plus FORD company is very unethical and will opt to kill its customers than repair their design mess, dating back from the Pinto that exploded, to Nice-looking but valueless Kuga, and to secureless Fiestas. They are just trash!
Funny that I did opposite wouldn’t get another Toyota ever. Blew gearbox after I reversed trailer up driveway dealership didn’t want to no about said I should have in 4wd
I own a 3.0ltr Hilux d/cab 4x4 (10yrs old). It has +512,000km on the clock. Had it since new. Still no issues. Storage is a Big problem in bakkies. Wish manufacturers made more serious effort in this regard. Ranger interior quality always looked crummy. I don't like the look of the new Hilux. But I'd buy it for peace of mind.
I prefer the Hilux overall, probably for the nostalgia factor. I learned to drive in an old 2003-ish Hilux Raider, 3.0 l diesel, no turbo... I was pretty safe from speeding tickets. I do think the Ranger looks better though? Just me?
We drove Hilux's for years, and never any problems. Then went to the new Ranger XLT 3.2 4x4 auto with 50k on the clock now and a lot of aftermarket options (bumpers, tires & suspension). I would say the Ranger was a better bakkie to drive every day and more spacious BUT when it came to resale value. Well then you see how much money you loose, we where shocked. So yes the Hilux is more expensive but provide an ease of mine when selling your vehicle in the future. And for that reason we just went back to Toyota with a new Hilux Dakar, and it will hold it value the best out of any bakkie, so you will end up loosing way less money with the Toyota. We will miss the Ford but in my opinion not worth the money you loose.
Sometimes people want a fun car that's good. If everyone just bought based on resale everyone would be bored and the roads would have no variety. Resale isn't the only factor.
Why would you buy a car for resale value instead of "ownership" value? If you are going to buy cars for the purpose of selling them for a good deal then why not just start your own dealership? All cars lose value, but that's not what you buy them for. You buy them to DRIVE them. So your money should be focused on how a car feels to drive and how much it costs to maintain. Now if you are talking about property, then you head would be in the right direction if you were buying property with resale value in mind.
Thanks for the video!! Just a note, the 2.4srx and the 2.8raider both 4x4 auto are cheaper than their rivals, the 2.0xlt and the wildtrack also both 4x4 auto. That is according to the websites. The extras for each vehicle is personal and that changes the price depending on how much someone wants to add and can not be a factor in deciding which is cheaper in a review. That said, all your reviews are always good!
I have a Toyota Hilux 1992 mighty X and a Toyota Hilux invincible 2012 both are running perfectly both are manual gearbox the 1992 needed a new clutch at 450000 kilometers but after that now it has run 670000 and it's still going on even the original radiator is still working just had to replace the hoses had to replace some more stuff like Brakes and suspension parts are touched just once over these years I really love my 1992 Hilux and the 2012 invincible it has got 166000 kilometers on it but it's still running fine without any issue the brake pads are changed only
Ciro, you're a riot. Great review, informative and I chuckled the whole way through. Regarding costs though, I agree with another comment here, in that, once you take into account resale value, the Hilux and Fortuners are actually among the cheapest cars in South Africa, assuming you can afford the outlay or payments.
I actually own the new 2.8 Hilux and man I love it! I have a sorting pack in my load box which is fixed to the side of the load box! It keeps things safe with a securi-lid and my things don’t roll about!
I use 2 x 150L Addis Rough Tote boxes, with a bungee cord to keep them in place in the load bed. Nothing rolls around and the contents remain dry. Btw, I have the XLT and I couldn't be happier!
Brilliant review Ciro! I'm a huge Wildtrack fan but if I were on the market for a bakkie Toyota would take my money...missed opportunity by Ford styling wise, feel we've had this design for too long
2018 Ranger Wildtrak owner, I usually put my valuables behind my driver's seat, or under the rear seats in the storage bins. Use it everyday, and haven't had many nuisances in the city, only real annoyance is the fuel consumption
Doesn't matter where you hid those valuables. Thieves are still going to take advantage of Ford's notoriously weak card door locks and gain EASY access to your entire vehicle.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior to be honest, I rather that, then being hijacked, and the chances of being held up while driving the Hilux is higher than in the Ranger
@@FrndsCallMeDaz Well, if crime is a concern, than bakkies are in general are a bad buy. I think bakkies are the most stolen and hijacked vehicles behind the hatchback class. Safest vehicle class is the sedan range and compact suv. I think the only bakkies that doesn't get stolen is that box-shaped Mahindra that farmers love.
But it isn't a concern, because that's why insurance and trackers exist, truth is, regardless of the vehicle, if there is a possibility of valuables for easy picking, theives will take the opportunity.
Put the R87k aside if you go with the ranger when replacing it’s gearbox at 50 000kms. I have heard too many hit and miss stories with the ranger. The feedback is 50/50. Some people say they have no issues and some say they have endless issues. If you can choose a company car go with the Ford but spending your own money go with the Hilux.
@@cameronm4201 I stick with what I know & I know Hilux's coz I used to work with them. A singular recall for the Hilux over A LIST of Ranger recalls that's spanned the life of the chassis since almost last decade, because that's how old the Ranger is. DPF's have been the subject for several diesels including Subaru - people buy diesel cars but toot around in the suburbs n city so they don't break temperature & clog. www.caradvice.com.au/714932/toyota-hilux-dpf-drama-update/ Also, Ford has been sketchy at managing their recalls. Again, I trust Toyota because I used to work with them & are generally a hardy product. www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ranger-mazda-bt-50-recalled-brake-faults www.caradvice.com.au/610475/2016-17-ford-ranger-recalled-for-fire-risk/ www.caradvice.com.au/657366/2018-ford-ranger-everest-recalled-for-steering-fix/ www.accc.gov.au/media-release/court-orders-ford-to-pay-10-million-penalty-for-unconscionable-conduct
Simple manual ranger will live longer than raptor , avoid 10 speeds , durability comfy hilux , fuel and value dmax -aisin too , finally it's all depends on depth of pocket ..
We've had a Wildtrak for 4 years Been serviced properly by Ford. Brakes were changed by Ford 2 years in. We've towed cows and cars. Went to the Drakensberg with it. Went on an offroad course and it's never given us any problems. Mechanically and Electronically
You have to think, that who watch this video, is because are interested in them. You can't start saying that is a stupid car concept or a similar thing. And if you don't like the ranger raptor is because you didn't drive it on really broken road to hight speed.
Maybe they're not bad for a South African channel, but they are unbelievably poor compared to channels by guys in other countries. This guy starts with an excuse for not having two similar vehicles, like a childish politician - they did not have the same cars in their press fleets. He should rather say that he couldn't be bothered to obtain two similar vehicles. Watch the channels below, first thing you'll see are guys who actually give a s... about cars and go through the trouble of getting facts, like real world fuel mileage versus claimed consumption. Oh well. Why even bother, if you enjoy their work, good for you. ruclips.net/user/CarAdvice ruclips.net/user/4X4Australia ruclips.net/user/DriveVideo ruclips.net/user/tflcar ruclips.net/user/RonBacardi666
A. The Amarok has the best ride and handling. I regularly drive it and the Ranger back to back. B. Speaking of reliability record, am I the only one that's been pleased with Kia? It's been a drama free 6 years in the 2.2 crdi, Sorento. And my cousin also can't stop raving about the 1.4 Tec, Rio
My wife's comment when you said "that parking is too small, this parking is too small" was "That has never happened to me".... and she drives a bakkie. I didn't even finnish watching the video. How can you test and rate a bakkkie if you admit you can't drive one?
The reviewer prefers the ranger but since he is not biased that’s why he expressed it in a gentle way to make sure hilux owners will not going to hate him 😂😅🤣....
Greetings from Bergvliet, Cape Town. I'm more of an Isuzu fan when it comes to typical double ca b bakkies but if I had to choose between the Hilux and Ranger I ould take the Hilux with the 2.5l d4d engine.
Hilux all the way, built to last and when you sell it 5 years down the line you will still be able to sell it for a decent amount, our Hilux had 300 000km on the clock and we traded it in for a newer one a few years back (3.0 D4D before the 2.8) and we had to chip in R150k if I’m not mistaken... the hilux was a legend 40 and we traded it in for a late legend 45, an incredible car and I will always take Toyota over Ford. Will never break, engine is detuned to last and the capacity is high so it is stronger and less strained. Re sale value is better and the car also looks better, sure the ford is way more comfortable and slightly bigger inside but I’ll always be a Toyota man!
@@kaikristen4005 Drive both and never had a problem with the ford. Most people tow to much in Fords as Ford bullshit in their advertising its crap. So if you have a bit of common sense you should already be aware of that. Put the Ranger up boggy sand and then the hilux you will see the power difference. The hilux also like to have injector problems the steering racks are not the strongest. I could go on as we use the Hilux for work and not one person at work has a positive thing to say about them. Thats coming from die hard toyota fans that are mechanics and fitters. Sorry mate over priced and over rated. Toyota are still selling off the reputation not todays ability. If you talked about old girls mate I agree. You just cant kill them one of the most reliable cars ever built.
@guy proulx oh well.......I guess that the owners of the 1,4 million Ford bakkies that were sold worldwide last year are all wrong.....and the fact that the Ranger is Europes' best selling pickup (many exported from SA), must be propoganda. 😂
@@davecooke4009 the older 2.5 td ford ranger is pretty good actually, the bearing clutch is weak, the 2.2 ford ranger which use too by defender is joke, no matter you maintain it will grenade itself. the clog injector at toyota hilux only happen when diesel sulfur content more than 500 ppm, but many anti toyota blow up it
@@gutadin5 the company i work previous for, has fleet of ford ranger 2.5 diesel as mazda bt50, if u plan to use below 200.000 kms yeah its pretty reliable engine, the gearbox very weak actually, never do hardcore offroading, the transfer case will blew up the chain. If u only soft roading to beach, or gravel its okay, not for rock climbing or heavy deep mud offroading while hilux aisin gearbox has same design as toyota prado which very strong for the class, below land cruiser 100 or 200 off course
@@trianggaindralukmana2184 maybe if I want to use the truck for less than 3 years and disposed it the I'll buy a Ford , but if I want the truck to keep it for 10 years then I'll buy a toyota Hilux.
The Raptor kit looks amazing on the Ford Ranger, I'm sure it is the reason Ford decided to make the Ranger Raptor just like Pimp my ride made car manufacturers pimp their cars from the factory.
@@nodcarillol.6550 I know but many people fit it in aftermarket anyway. Some fit their Hilux with the fox suspension too so it's not unique to the raptor.
@@sabelod7790 yes they do, but ranger raptor is ranger raptor even if it doesnt have the big engine and some added features of its bigger brother f150. Its target market are for people outside north america.
@@LeonKotze70 that seems to work for Toyota SA, because their Hilux Bakkies are the top seller on the chart every month, i assume your are a Ford Ranger owner?
@@MrSWW clever marketing to dupe "fools", sorry to say. Yes, it is working, but it puts a smile on my face... As for the Ranger, I can afford a T6 or T7, will have a T4 or T5 within the next couple of weeks though. Had a 4x4 Courier years ago, might not be as "tough" as a Hilux, or at least, as the owner's claims it to be (I had a client with a bit of a different experience), but I will take it any day instead of a warthog. That said, it might be my second choice.
Yeah, strange that at a quick count I know of 7--8 Rangers that have had serious drivetrain issues and not one Hilux.......small issues granted but nothing that left the owners stranded.........two with turbo hoses that popped off causing limp modes, some vibrating brakes and a diff bearing......etc......no blown motors or turbos or gearboxes, even the new 10 spd 2.0 is failing....go figure!
Bloody right I am talking shit.............as I talk shit my colleagues 2.0 10 spd Everest is sitting at Kempster Ford getting the gearbox sorted.......this is shy of 40000kms..........shit I tell you!! BTW I don't own a Hilux and for what it's worth I would take probably take an Amarok or even the new Isuzu before the Hilux.........the Ford would most definitely be last on the list.....no shit.
The hilux feel cheap build, the interior feels to plastic compaired to the ranger. The hilux is also smaller inside. The back seat-rest cant even fold forward . This journalist should probably stick to his “corolla”.
Highly unlikely my friend. We had a fleet of toyotas on the farm. Not one went untouched, engine, gearbox and diffs. Even the 2.4 got stolen. The only bakkie with much less problems are isuzus.
I’ve owned 2015 hilux sr5 and the fuel consumption is shocking, I’m always on the freeway I would 75% of my drives. I average 10.5/100km no where near what Toyota claims. Also had DPF issues constantly, burns for 30 minutes and blows white smoke.... I love the hilux range they look the best but I think I just bought a lemon....
I reckon you should take long term reliability into account also. Here in Australia the Ford ranger is a big lemon just like most Ford vehicles. My brother worked at a Ford dealer in the service department and got sick and tired of the bullshit problems which were unrepairable mostly so he left. Went to Toyota. He's much happier now.
Basically.....if we needed to go somewhere we ended up walking around with laptops in a backpack on our backs .any clothing left in the bakkie we would hang them over the seat to indicate we hiding nothing ......also we have 2 kids we always looked like hikers while shopping .😂
Put your laptop bag on the floor by the back seat, then recline the passenger seat to hide the laptop bag. Lock your bakkie, and enjoy your day. You're welcome!
Out of interest, has anyone purchased one they didn’t have their heart set on at the beginning and why? My heart was set on the Ford but I keep coming back to the Toyota. I have no allegiance to either and believe both are excellent overall. Let me know if you were in similar position and what changed your mind.
I was very keen on the Ford but ended up buying a hilux. In the end they where quite equal to me and each one of them had some advantages/downsides compared to the other. Rangers had a 6 month waiting time for new when I was looking and got a very good deal on a demo Hilux with 800km only. Very happy now
True what Cirro said, everybody was laughing about a 2l engine in the VW Amarok, now the Ranger has the same displacement but nobody said a word about it now, wonder why?
The warranty comparison tho.. over here in Malaysia Hilux comes with 5 years wrranty @ 150k km whilst Ranger only comes with 3 years @ 100k km.. No brainer, opted for Hilux for peace of mind
These are not built for city types or cities. You put your laptop on the floor in the passenger compartment. Most of the time they don't carry four or five people. Chrome bar? Waste of time. What they need is the ladder rack to protect the rear window and to strap down long things like box steel, planks and yes, ladders. We only get the 2.4 engine in the HiLux here in the UK and it really is not competitive. All Hilux are rated at over a ton carrying capacity here, like the Ranger and, well, all other rivals. Both brands send them from the South African factories to the UK by the way.
Wow, you think these are too big? Have you ever been to the US? We have SUVs that are almost big enough to be parking sheds for these "mid-sized" trucks. No one knows why, but the US does not receive this particular small Toyota truck, instead we get a sort of "homegrown" variant. Engines available are a 2.7 liter 4 cylinder petrol or a 3.5 liter V6 petrol....with most customers opting for the V6 with automatic transmission even though the 4 cylinder has a rep for being indestructible. So far, the biggest criticism I have read about the Ranger is that assembly quality and materials chosen are not all that was expected for the price. The 2nd most often read criticism is that the 2.3 turbo petrol with automatic transmission combo (THE only drivetrain offered in the US, is not really all that economical. )
Trucks in the USA are certainly huge. Most of them are wimpy with their payload which is most important elsewhere but they can tow a locomotive. The Hilux is a commerical vehicle as opposed to the Tacoma which is a consumer vehicle. Hilux is built for the harshest environments on the plannet. It is the vehicle that killed all american truck sales outside of the USA which Ford and Chev used to enjoy. Hilux is known as indestructable. Their petrol engines are particularly good compared to the competition but their Diesels are most popular. They come in a number of engine options and configurations 2.0 Petrol, 2.7 Petrol, 4.0 V6 Petrol, 2.4 Diesel and 2.8 Diesel. I think South Africa has the biggest range of Hilux models in the world to choose from.
In my opinion: First, I think the Hilux is better than the Ranger but consider for the feature the Ranger is better. Two, the Hilux is perfect for the people who work hard such as go to the farm, go for a long way and anything else. Three the Hilux is laster than the Ranger because they are made from the good magnet.
I own a vigo and I got into bad accident because of the brake. I had enough stopping distance and still it did not stop. I asked so many people why did that happen. Most of the hilux owners said that the brake is not good. Some of them recommended me to pump the brake twice. But how am I supposed to pump twice in that short period of time. I still love my truck but really one would think that Toyota is very strong and safe but in reality the brakes are crap. I don't know why such a huge brand like Toyota would give such brakes to a legendary truck like hilux. I am not sure I would be upgrading to Toyota Revo or Rocco. I am thinking of buying a Ranger or L200. I wished I could upgrade to Hilux but the parts, the build quality and performance are not that good compared to ranger or l200. I really don't want to change my brand loyalty but then I would be compromising me and my family's safety and also I want to respect my money buying something that is worth it. I would save money and buy the ranger raptor. I know that they tuned brakes in newer hilux instead they should have upgraded the whole brake system because they are a fail technology and mechanism.
Nice review, the only time to get the Ranger over the Hilux is for comfort, other than that, the Hilux is the bakkie. The Ranger experience i had was aweful, changed intercooler, changed the turbo, changed mounts etc and these are not cheap replacements... So, no thanks to Ford..
I rolled my Hilux not long ago, the assessor valued it higher (41k) than what I owed on finance (38k)... no extra mods, same as when I bought it. So when insurance was paid out I walked away 3k better off. Used that as deposit for new Hilux 😄
How did you roll? Stuff on the roof?
P W lost control around a corner on a dirt track and struck an embankment
No wonder you rolled.
@@bp6837 Hilux doesn't stay on the road if you get what I mean.
Lol, yeah, the Toyota's arent very planted on the road. Fortuners also flip over easily, Hilux's only now BARELY pass the "moose test". You dont buy a Toyota Hilux for its road holding capabilities. Or its fuel consumption, or its cabin space, or its price, or its comfy seats on long journeys. I guess you JUST buy it for its resale value, and suffer all the time until you sell it lol.
I imagine the ranger is a great machine but I'd bet a Hilux would still be on the road in 20 plus years time without any issues whereas the ranger would not but still the ranger would be a great purchase
I had the same view about bakkies.......said I am not a bakkie man for various reasons. But when we were to do a vehicle change and a deal came up which could work for us........I started the bakkie test driving etc. Weighing up the options etc. In short the biggest problem for me was it is going to be a daily driver and picking up kids with bags and wife works etc. Needs to stop at shops sometimes where do you safely put all the stuff??? So after doing some market research and comparing load-bin options such as the Armadillo, we decided on the RigiDek solution. Which literally turns the load bay into a massive boot. And it is remote operated with courtesy lights. So far it seems good. You will have to do rubber sealing of the tailgate to prevent that dust from gravel roads when you go on your adventures to not make all luggage so dusty.
We opted for the Mitsubishi Triton due the the bakkie not being overly bulky, turning circle is nothing short of amazing fairly comfortable drive compared to other bakkies. Rear leg room I think is still best in class. But it is early days and we will see how the bakkie thing works for us in the long run.
Thanks for the great reviews........
I bought a 2.2 Double Cab Ranger in 2016. The vehicle came with a incorrectly fitted brake pipe that the dealer had to fix after the first day of ownership, it made a awful noise when turning the steering wheel. Within the first week the Ranger also developed a rattle in the dashboard which resulted in the dashboard being disassembled and found that the passenger airbags were not tightened correctly. I was told that Ford would not be interested in fixing any other rattles after 3 months.
After more than 12 visits in 2016/2017 for various issues i.e. throttle bodies, dead infotainment, rattles etc I decided to sell the vehicle as most of my time was spent arguing with the dealer in Port Elizabeth. I decided to purchase an Xtra Cab Hilux and all my problems went away. The dealer was friendly and the service is still good. I’ll never own a Ford product ever again, their dealers are arrogant and their product is unfortunately not any good. The Toyota experience is much better and they look after you.
What about the drive? Which of the two is smoother to drive on road?
As they say: Any used car is better than a brand new FORD.Plus FORD company is very unethical and will opt to kill its customers than repair their design mess, dating back from the Pinto that exploded, to Nice-looking but valueless Kuga, and to secureless Fiestas. They are just trash!
Funny that I did opposite wouldn’t get another Toyota ever. Blew gearbox after I reversed trailer up driveway dealership didn’t want to no about said I should have in 4wd
@@ssv6414 off coarse u need a 4x4 for towing idiot toyota but Toyota is lacking features
Ranger build for comfort but short life span. Hilux build for tough but long life span 😬😬
I own a 3.0ltr Hilux d/cab 4x4 (10yrs old). It has +512,000km on the clock. Had it since new. Still no issues. Storage is a Big problem in bakkies. Wish manufacturers made more serious effort in this regard. Ranger interior quality always looked crummy. I don't like the look of the new Hilux. But I'd buy it for peace of mind.
I prefer the Hilux overall, probably for the nostalgia factor. I learned to drive in an old 2003-ish Hilux Raider, 3.0 l diesel, no turbo... I was pretty safe from speeding tickets. I do think the Ranger looks better though? Just me?
Ford Looks better to me too
We drove Hilux's for years, and never any problems. Then went to the new Ranger XLT 3.2 4x4 auto with 50k on the clock now and a lot of aftermarket options (bumpers, tires & suspension). I would say the Ranger was a better bakkie to drive every day and more spacious BUT when it came to resale value. Well then you see how much money you loose, we where shocked. So yes the Hilux is more expensive but provide an ease of mine when selling your vehicle in the future. And for that reason we just went back to Toyota with a new Hilux Dakar, and it will hold it value the best out of any bakkie, so you will end up loosing way less money with the Toyota. We will miss the Ford but in my opinion not worth the money you loose.
But what abou the insurance you pay every month? is there a big different between the ranger and the hilux?
Sometimes people want a fun car that's good. If everyone just bought based on resale everyone would be bored and the roads would have no variety. Resale isn't the only factor.
Why would you buy a car for resale value instead of "ownership" value? If you are going to buy cars for the purpose of selling them for a good deal then why not just start your own dealership?
All cars lose value, but that's not what you buy them for. You buy them to DRIVE them. So your money should be focused on how a car feels to drive and how much it costs to maintain.
Now if you are talking about property, then you head would be in the right direction if you were buying property with resale value in mind.
Its value is higher only in south africa
Johan vd Berg well said
Thanks for the video!!
Just a note, the 2.4srx and the 2.8raider both 4x4 auto are cheaper than their rivals, the 2.0xlt and the wildtrack also both 4x4 auto. That is according to the websites. The extras for each vehicle is personal and that changes the price depending on how much someone wants to add and can not be a factor in deciding which is cheaper in a review.
That said, all your reviews are always good!
Funny...i saw an Isuzu with a Raptor kit..and a large "Raptor" sticker....my goodness
It's bad in the East meneer. No holy cows. Especially when it comes to accessories.
Crazy
The things we see in the East Rand buddy!
I have a Toyota Hilux 1992 mighty X and a Toyota Hilux invincible 2012 both are running perfectly both are manual gearbox the 1992 needed a new clutch at 450000 kilometers but after that now it has run 670000 and it's still going on even the original radiator is still working just had to replace the hoses had to replace some more stuff like Brakes and suspension parts are touched just once over these years I really love my 1992 Hilux and the 2012 invincible it has got 166000 kilometers on it but it's still running fine without any issue the brake pads are changed only
Ciro, you're a riot. Great review, informative and I chuckled the whole way through. Regarding costs though, I agree with another comment here, in that, once you take into account resale value, the Hilux and Fortuners are actually among the cheapest cars in South Africa, assuming you can afford the outlay or payments.
I actually own the new 2.8 Hilux and man I love it! I have a sorting pack in my load box which is fixed to the side of the load box! It keeps things safe with a securi-lid and my things don’t roll about!
A very honest assessment of utes..most people in cities don’t need them and can’t park them ..your spot on
Dude your sarcasm is epic.
I use 2 x 150L Addis Rough Tote boxes, with a bungee cord to keep them in place in the load bed. Nothing rolls around and the contents remain dry. Btw, I have the XLT and I couldn't be happier!
Hi. What about theft issues. Haven't you had any incidents?
@@nhlosomagwaza5052 Not yet, the tonneau cover keeps it all out of sight.
@@RinaldoCaptain Awesome. Ill try that
There is no comparison I will pay the extra Money on the Toyota all day long .
A fool and his money are soon parted.
@@craigice9635 😂
Um yes there is. Sorry mate the new Hilux is a fail
The new Hilux is a fail.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣what a git.
Toyota the best engineered car. I got Corolla ae101 1996 and Hilux Vigo 2006 both were still running in good condition!
Brilliant review Ciro!
I'm a huge Wildtrack fan but if I were on the market for a bakkie Toyota would take my money...missed opportunity by Ford styling wise, feel we've had this design for too long
I put my laptop right behind the rear passenger seat in my Ford Ranger.
How much actual space is there? Can you move those rear seats back a bit?
I don't carry a laptop in my Ranger. I carry fishing rods and a roof top tent.
2018 Ranger Wildtrak owner, I usually put my valuables behind my driver's seat, or under the rear seats in the storage bins. Use it everyday, and haven't had many nuisances in the city, only real annoyance is the fuel consumption
Doesn't matter where you hid those valuables. Thieves are still going to take advantage of Ford's notoriously weak card door locks and gain EASY access to your entire vehicle.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior to be honest, I rather that, then being hijacked, and the chances of being held up while driving the Hilux is higher than in the Ranger
@@FrndsCallMeDaz Well, if crime is a concern, than bakkies are in general are a bad buy. I think bakkies are the most stolen and hijacked vehicles behind the hatchback class.
Safest vehicle class is the sedan range and compact suv.
I think the only bakkies that doesn't get stolen is that box-shaped Mahindra that farmers love.
But it isn't a concern, because that's why insurance and trackers exist, truth is, regardless of the vehicle, if there is a possibility of valuables for easy picking, theives will take the opportunity.
Ranger best looking period
Parking😂😂 i park anywhere... no issues!
Yeah me too! just go close enough to the car in front and the car in front rolls forward for some reason. Always able to park.
Put the R87k aside if you go with the ranger when replacing it’s gearbox at 50 000kms. I have heard too many hit and miss stories with the ranger. The feedback is 50/50. Some people say they have no issues and some say they have endless issues. If you can choose a company car go with the Ford but spending your own money go with the Hilux.
Jip. Heard too many true stories about there poor gearbox. Hilux will keep its value way better
I'll take the one that costs more and is known for reliability and exceeding its life expectancy.
Dirty Eddy thats of course the hilux
I'd take the Hilux all day long. Those Fords have been recalls galore.
G Rodriguez that because Ford attend to the issues, not so much with the DPF issues, and dust in the air box that causes limp mode in the HiLux.
@@cameronm4201
I stick with what I know & I know Hilux's coz I used to work with them. A singular recall for the Hilux over A LIST of Ranger recalls that's spanned the life of the chassis since almost last decade, because that's how old the Ranger is. DPF's have been the subject for several diesels including Subaru - people buy diesel cars but toot around in the suburbs n city so they don't break temperature & clog.
www.caradvice.com.au/714932/toyota-hilux-dpf-drama-update/
Also, Ford has been sketchy at managing their recalls. Again, I trust Toyota because I used to work with them & are generally a hardy product.
www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ranger-mazda-bt-50-recalled-brake-faults
www.caradvice.com.au/610475/2016-17-ford-ranger-recalled-for-fire-risk/
www.caradvice.com.au/657366/2018-ford-ranger-everest-recalled-for-steering-fix/
www.accc.gov.au/media-release/court-orders-ford-to-pay-10-million-penalty-for-unconscionable-conduct
Simple manual ranger will live longer than raptor , avoid 10 speeds , durability comfy hilux , fuel and value dmax -aisin too , finally it's all depends on depth of pocket ..
Please can you do review on the TOYOTA HILUX 2.4 GD6 SRX 4x4 AUTO!! Thank you
My uncle use to place his laptop under the passenger seat 💺. Fits perfectly
I think it comes down to personal taste, like Merc vs BMW. I would take the 2.8 GD6 anyday though
We've had a Wildtrak for 4 years
Been serviced properly by Ford.
Brakes were changed by Ford 2 years in.
We've towed cows and cars. Went to the Drakensberg with it. Went on an offroad course and it's never given us any problems. Mechanically and Electronically
Drive YT Brand jes 😂😂
You have to think, that who watch this video, is because are interested in them.
You can't start saying that is a stupid car concept or a similar thing.
And if you don't like the ranger raptor is because you didn't drive it on really broken road to hight speed.
Great review 🔥keep up the good content 👆 .Top notch car channel in SA🇿🇦
Maybe they're not bad for a South African channel, but they are unbelievably poor compared to channels by guys in other countries.
This guy starts with an excuse for not having two similar vehicles, like a childish politician - they did not have the same cars in their press fleets. He should rather say that he couldn't be bothered to obtain two similar vehicles. Watch the channels below, first thing you'll see are guys who actually give a s... about cars and go through the trouble of getting facts, like real world fuel mileage versus claimed consumption. Oh well. Why even bother, if you enjoy their work, good for you.
ruclips.net/user/CarAdvice
ruclips.net/user/4X4Australia
ruclips.net/user/DriveVideo
ruclips.net/user/tflcar
ruclips.net/user/RonBacardi666
A. The Amarok has the best ride and handling. I regularly drive it and the Ranger back to back.
B. Speaking of reliability record, am I the only one that's been pleased with Kia? It's been a drama free 6 years in the 2.2 crdi, Sorento. And my cousin also can't stop raving about the 1.4 Tec, Rio
My hilux is 1998 and still going done 897k on it... yeh it’s only 47dollar on service,
Wow.
new hilux will be lucky to make 89k before its dpf fails
@@samkitto010 Is africa implementing these to car companies? I think some countries only needs to comply with the DPF.
I would agree any hilux from mid 80,s to about 2010 somewhere was better than its rivals. Now its not the case anymore.
@Pali Seturumane Australia has a class action lawsuits against Toyotas with a dpf. Look it up.
The Hilux has good design and is the best
My wife's comment when you said "that parking is too small, this parking is too small" was "That has never happened to me".... and she drives a bakkie. I didn't even finnish watching the video. How can you test and rate a bakkkie if you admit you can't drive one?
Wow! I learned a new term today! Bakkie!
The reviewer prefers the ranger but since he is not biased that’s why he expressed it in a gentle way to make sure hilux owners will not going to hate him 😂😅🤣....
Reviewers have to appease car companies or they wont get any cars to review.
In a ranger, a laptop fits in the glovebox in the dashboard. Behind the back seat is also a viable option.
Ciro passengers put driver's laptop on their lap! And the journey continues 😂😂💀
Toyota ia a south african thing ford is a whole world thing
@guy proulx Lmao
What an idiot😂. Ford is an american thing. These rest of the world is toyota
I own a Ranger wildtrack. Looks better and more powerful than a Hilux. Driven hilux before. They are lazy over hill
Greetings from Bergvliet, Cape Town. I'm more of an Isuzu fan when it comes to typical double ca b bakkies but if I had to choose between the Hilux and Ranger I ould take the Hilux with the 2.5l d4d engine.
Hilux all the way, built to last and when you sell it 5 years down the line you will still be able to sell it for a decent amount, our Hilux had 300 000km on the clock and we traded it in for a newer one a few years back (3.0 D4D before the 2.8) and we had to chip in R150k if I’m not mistaken... the hilux was a legend 40 and we traded it in for a late legend 45, an incredible car and I will always take Toyota over Ford.
Will never break, engine is detuned to last and the capacity is high so it is stronger and less strained. Re sale value is better and the car also looks better, sure the ford is way more comfortable and slightly bigger inside but I’ll always be a Toyota man!
Pmsl yeah well theyre falling to bits and have a bad rep
Mr Grenal the Fords?
@@kaikristen4005 Drive both and never had a problem with the ford. Most people tow to much in Fords as Ford bullshit in their advertising its crap. So if you have a bit of common sense you should already be aware of that. Put the Ranger up boggy sand and then the hilux you will see the power difference. The hilux also like to have injector problems the steering racks are not the strongest. I could go on as we use the Hilux for work and not one person at work has a positive thing to say about them. Thats coming from die hard toyota fans that are mechanics and fitters. Sorry mate over priced and over rated. Toyota are still selling off the reputation not todays ability. If you talked about old girls mate I agree. You just cant kill them one of the most reliable cars ever built.
The 2.8 raider now comes with Android auto and Apple I car play from basic models which gives you GPS as well.
Hilux all day, everyday! 😎
Hilux is baas van die pad!
You know it
#TEAMHILUX
Zulfi P da is het zeker
I prefer the Ranger.
Yes , power and looks the Ranger, how about reliability ?
Joke of the year
"that's too small, that's too small..." You must have heard that a lot growing up... XD
I had to take a break after the Taylor Swift statement 😄. I might come back and finish watching the video later.
Toyota hilux will last forever with no problems, there is a reason why it is the best selling bakkie.
No vichile last forever
guy proulx jes but first the land cruiser
Good review. Very informative and factual. Thanks.
Compare the raider spec to the Wildtrak. Uhh no the Raider should be compared to the XLT.
Dakar/Legend50 can be compared to the Wildtrak 👍
There's a reason why Toyota don't have an auto in the press fleet... They don't want a direct comparison with the Ranger.
@Ashley Lemmer excellent point.
Did you mean auto?
Craig Ice Oops, yes. Thanks for pointing it out.
@guy proulx probably because they are American.....😉
@guy proulx oh well.......I guess that the owners of the 1,4 million Ford bakkies that were sold worldwide last year are all wrong.....and the fact that the Ranger is Europes' best selling pickup (many exported from SA), must be propoganda. 😂
LMAO I cringe every time I drive past a Ranger with a raptor kit on it... So embarrassing!
Fucking agree with you mate they look hideous
they didn’t have enough paper to buy the real raptor dude 😂
Regards the storage of laptops, bags etc. in the Toyota bakkie : the Toyota Fortuner has the exact same problem, there's no cover at the back either.
even australian and american mining company here pick toyota than ford, the ford ranger become unreliable once past 100.000 kms
@@davecooke4009 the older 2.5 td ford ranger is pretty good actually, the bearing clutch is weak, the 2.2 ford ranger which use too by defender is joke, no matter you maintain it will grenade itself. the clog injector at toyota hilux only happen when diesel sulfur content more than 500 ppm, but many anti toyota blow up it
That's right
you think the Ranger Wildtrak will last 3 years or 65,000 kms without any issues?
@@gutadin5 the company i work previous for, has fleet of ford ranger 2.5 diesel as mazda bt50, if u plan to use below 200.000 kms yeah its pretty reliable engine, the gearbox very weak actually, never do hardcore offroading, the transfer case will blew up the chain. If u only soft roading to beach, or gravel its okay, not for rock climbing or heavy deep mud offroading while hilux aisin gearbox has same design as toyota prado which very strong for the class, below land cruiser 100 or 200 off course
@@trianggaindralukmana2184 maybe if I want to use the truck for less than 3 years and disposed it the I'll buy a Ford , but if I want the truck to keep it for 10 years then I'll buy a toyota Hilux.
The Raptor kit looks amazing on the Ford Ranger, I'm sure it is the reason Ford decided to make the Ranger Raptor just like Pimp my ride made car manufacturers pimp their cars from the factory.
Ranger raptor have Fox suspension, regular ranger doesnt have, so there ya go, its not the same.
@@nodcarillol.6550 I know but many people fit it in aftermarket anyway. Some fit their Hilux with the fox suspension too so it's not unique to the raptor.
@@sabelod7790 yes they do, but ranger raptor is ranger raptor even if it doesnt have the big engine and some added features of its bigger brother f150. Its target market are for people outside north america.
Toyota owners: Toyota’s are better
Me: Probably never did ride in a Ford before..
I like the ride in the Ranger. The Hilux feels like it's engine wants to be a Ford when it's big.
Toyotas are better in longetivity. Thats it.
Mostly who say toyota better is from third world country
Ford oil pump problems. Nuff said.
The Ranger has storage for a laptop under the rear seat.
after 5yrs do the comparison again
Great report once again mate. .👍
Please do a comparison video on Toyota Hilux GR Sport and Ford Ranger Raptor 👊🏼
LOL... really? Compare a sticker and a grill to a purpose-built vehicle?
@@LeonKotze70 The 600 GR Sport owners will, however, benefit from the exclusivity of their bakkies, as its a limited edition model.
@@MrSWW oh please, Toyota slaps a couple of stickers on every second bakkie and calls it "limited edition"... it is a joke, that is what it is.
@@LeonKotze70 that seems to work for Toyota SA, because their Hilux Bakkies are the top seller on the chart every month, i assume your are a Ford Ranger owner?
@@MrSWW clever marketing to dupe "fools", sorry to say. Yes, it is working, but it puts a smile on my face...
As for the Ranger, I can afford a T6 or T7, will have a T4 or T5 within the next couple of weeks though. Had a 4x4 Courier years ago, might not be as "tough" as a Hilux, or at least, as the owner's claims it to be (I had a client with a bit of a different experience), but I will take it any day instead of a warthog. That said, it might be my second choice.
You gonna need that extra warranty with the frod!
I wonder if you can spell Toyota.
@@ThailandSights Tyoota
Yeah, strange that at a quick count I know of 7--8 Rangers that have had serious drivetrain issues and not one Hilux.......small issues granted but nothing that left the owners stranded.........two with turbo hoses that popped off causing limp modes, some vibrating brakes and a diff bearing......etc......no blown motors or turbos or gearboxes, even the new 10 spd 2.0 is failing....go figure!
@@lakalaka9436 It's always the Hilux guys that needs to talk shit about other bakkies... guess you need to justify your purchase somehow :D :D :D
Bloody right I am talking shit.............as I talk shit my colleagues 2.0 10 spd Everest is sitting at Kempster Ford getting the gearbox sorted.......this is shy of 40000kms..........shit I tell you!!
BTW I don't own a Hilux and for what it's worth I would take probably take an Amarok or even the new Isuzu before the Hilux.........the Ford would most definitely be last on the list.....no shit.
The hilux feel cheap build, the interior feels to plastic compaired to the ranger. The hilux is also smaller inside. The back seat-rest cant even fold forward . This journalist should probably stick to his “corolla”.
And when it breaks down... a hilux or cruiser will come and tow you!😂👍
Highly unlikely my friend. We had a fleet of toyotas on the farm. Not one went untouched, engine, gearbox and diffs. Even the 2.4 got stolen. The only bakkie with much less problems are isuzus.
Rambo i agree with you
rambo00711sure Your ranger is broken After 150 k and the hilux never stops thats the diference the ranger is Just crap thats a fact
Zulfi P ow thats true hahahaha the ranger is fucking crap
Hilux is the winner. Wrong comparison it should be hilux E revo variant vs that ranger
We don't get revo Hilux here in Africa our top specs are raider,legend 50 and dakar
I’ve owned 2015 hilux sr5 and the fuel consumption is shocking, I’m always on the freeway I would 75% of my drives. I average 10.5/100km no where near what Toyota claims. Also had DPF issues constantly, burns for 30 minutes and blows white smoke.... I love the hilux range they look the best but I think I just bought a lemon....
I reckon you should take long term reliability into account also. Here in Australia the Ford ranger is a big lemon just like most Ford vehicles. My brother worked at a Ford dealer in the service department and got sick and tired of the bullshit problems which were unrepairable mostly so he left. Went to Toyota. He's much happier now.
In my BT-50, my laptop fits behind the back seat.
In the tub
Theyre suppose to fit in your glove box but my my gaming lap top wouldnt
Can't you made video test mitsubitshi triton vs ford ranger
Basically.....if we needed to go somewhere
we ended up walking around with laptops in a backpack on our backs .any clothing left in the bakkie we would hang them over the seat to indicate we hiding nothing ......also we have 2 kids we always looked like hikers while shopping .😂
Miles A 😂👌🏼
In reality the Ford fouble cab can't really carry a ton legally because its to much weight over the rear axle.
Put your laptop bag on the floor by the back seat, then recline the passenger seat to hide the laptop bag. Lock your bakkie, and enjoy your day. You're welcome!
Out of interest, has anyone purchased one they didn’t have their heart set on at the beginning and why? My heart was set on the Ford but I keep coming back to the Toyota. I have no allegiance to either and believe both are excellent overall. Let me know if you were in similar position and what changed your mind.
I was very keen on the Ford but ended up buying a hilux. In the end they where quite equal to me and each one of them had some advantages/downsides compared to the other. Rangers had a 6 month waiting time for new when I was looking and got a very good deal on a demo Hilux with 800km only. Very happy now
True what Cirro said, everybody was laughing about a 2l engine in the VW Amarok, now the Ranger has the same displacement but nobody said a word about it now, wonder why?
The warranty comparison tho.. over here in Malaysia Hilux comes with 5 years wrranty @ 150k km whilst Ranger only comes with 3 years @ 100k km..
No brainer, opted for Hilux for peace of mind
These are not built for city types or cities. You put your laptop on the floor in the passenger compartment. Most of the time they don't carry four or five people.
Chrome bar? Waste of time. What they need is the ladder rack to protect the rear window and to strap down long things like box steel, planks and yes, ladders.
We only get the 2.4 engine in the HiLux here in the UK and it really is not competitive. All Hilux are rated at over a ton carrying capacity here, like the Ranger and, well, all other rivals.
Both brands send them from the South African factories to the UK by the way.
Toyota everyday anytime
I just love ranger XLT
when are we getting the new Ranger Raptor here in Mzansi?
@@gingerjacaranda isn't it the one that requires the driver to have a code 10 license?
@Daniel Graham I haven't seen it around and even in the Ford's showrooms
There was one that cars.co.za reviewed in Australia
So they are limited?
Go Ford! Number one seller here in NZ!
After seeing the roll test between the Hilux and the Ranger you couldn't pay me to drive that death trap Hilux.
Same ever since that video the little like I had for the Hilux just disappeared
And how many have you seen rolled in actuality?
@@eimajvl enough to know I don't want one. I'll stick with my ranger thanks 👍
@guy proulx yeah cus we all sit on tarmac. What a fool.
@guy proulx Okay Mr mall cruiser.
There must be a reason why the Australians called the Ranger "The King".
And when it breaks down...you get a hilux or cruiser to come to come and tow you😂👍
Yeah and there a reason why Toyota hilux is the most realible and most capable mid pick up truck
The king of broken utes 😂
Please review the new Ford Everest.
very good review
The best pickup amongst all rivals is Mitsubishi Triton
Wow, you think these are too big? Have you ever been to the US? We have SUVs that are almost big enough to be parking sheds for these "mid-sized" trucks.
No one knows why, but the US does not receive this particular small Toyota truck, instead we get a sort of "homegrown" variant. Engines available are a 2.7 liter 4 cylinder petrol or a 3.5 liter V6 petrol....with most customers opting for the V6 with automatic transmission even though the 4 cylinder has a rep for being indestructible.
So far, the biggest criticism I have read about the Ranger is that assembly quality and materials chosen are not all that was expected for the price. The 2nd most often read criticism is that the 2.3 turbo petrol with automatic transmission combo (THE only drivetrain offered in the US, is not really all that economical. )
Trucks in the USA are certainly huge. Most of them are wimpy with their payload which is most important elsewhere but they can tow a locomotive. The Hilux is a commerical vehicle as opposed to the Tacoma which is a consumer vehicle. Hilux is built for the harshest environments on the plannet. It is the vehicle that killed all american truck sales outside of the USA which Ford and Chev used to enjoy. Hilux is known as indestructable. Their petrol engines are particularly good compared to the competition but their Diesels are most popular. They come in a number of engine options and configurations 2.0 Petrol, 2.7 Petrol, 4.0 V6 Petrol, 2.4 Diesel and 2.8 Diesel. I think South Africa has the biggest range of Hilux models in the world to choose from.
Is it worth it to buy a 4x4 2020 ranger 2.2 for everyday use?
Ford is the most popular truck all over the word
@guy proulx more then hilux
@guy proulx yes that figure is largely s.a a d the point is its ugly
@guy proulx worldwide the ranger outsells go google it
@guy proulx cant send a link via you tube give me your email
@guy proulx ranger 1st global toyota 2nd and chev 3rd my little bitcb
Love this guy!
but i love u
I would take the Ranger any day! And I have owned 2 hilux's in the past.That Hilux is over priced, much better bang for my buck on the Ranger
No comparison, Ford has 4 wheel disc brakes, Toy is stuck in the 70's with rear drums
well talk when you have 400k miles and still runs sweet, i doubt if ford will cross 100k without major repair.
@@Jnaga199 Greatly mistaken Jack
In my opinion: First, I think the Hilux is better than the Ranger but consider for the feature the Ranger is better. Two, the Hilux is perfect for the people who work hard such as go to the farm, go for a long way and anything else. Three the Hilux is laster than the Ranger because they are made from the good magnet.
Hi a friend of mine owns a ranger and the ranger has a storage area under the seat for your laptop
Lol it's not gonna change anything 😂😂 😂
He’s the South African Jeremy Clarkson ! Funny and sarcastic
I own a vigo and I got into bad accident because of the brake. I had enough stopping distance and still it did not stop. I asked so many people why did that happen. Most of the hilux owners said that the brake is not good. Some of them recommended me to pump the brake twice. But how am I supposed to pump twice in that short period of time. I still love my truck but really one would think that Toyota is very strong and safe but in reality the brakes are crap. I don't know why such a huge brand like Toyota would give such brakes to a legendary truck like hilux. I am not sure I would be upgrading to Toyota Revo or Rocco. I am thinking of buying a Ranger or L200. I wished I could upgrade to Hilux but the parts, the build quality and performance are not that good compared to ranger or l200. I really don't want to change my brand loyalty but then I would be compromising me and my family's safety and also I want to respect my money buying something that is worth it. I would save money and buy the ranger raptor. I know that they tuned brakes in newer hilux instead they should have upgraded the whole brake system because they are a fail technology and mechanism.
Nice review, the only time to get the Ranger over the Hilux is for comfort, other than that, the Hilux is the bakkie. The Ranger experience i had was aweful, changed intercooler, changed the turbo, changed mounts etc and these are not cheap replacements... So, no thanks to Ford..
Wow. That's a lot of fake news.
@@marinerchris fake news?
@@duffydon1741 r/whoooosh
😂 😂 😂 😂 Taylor Swift 4:55
When you give a journalist the wrong cars to review, this is what you get.
Hiluk win because i drive the hiluk
I don't know what a hiluk is I know what a hilux is
Ranger all the way, feels more stable with a load in the tray than any new Hillux
You get what you pay for. Toyota’s last forever and fords break down. End of story!
True 👍after a while when things fall apart and the novelty wears off... they all end up buying a Hilux...seen this too many times😂😂