Sailing is Not Expensive - Full Cost Breakdown - ep 281
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Wondering how much sailing costs? How much it costs to own a small sailboat? How much are marina fees? Sailboat slip fees? What is the yearly cost of owning a sailboat? This week we break down summer docking fees, sailboat winter storage fees, sailboat ownership and maintenance fees. How much it costs to buy a sailboat and own it safely.
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Nothing is more expensive than a free boat.
Haha.
This is true.
I was given a Allied Seawind for free...
Try divorce, it's like a free boat on steriods.
All addictions are expensive
Sailing is free. But when something breaks you need money. Lots of money. Boats are never reliable like a car can be. Or low maintenance like a car or house.
In my opinion, buy the best and most equipped boat you can afford; any dollar spent on maintenance, improvements and electronics by the previous owner translates in cents in selling price.
However depends on your skill and his skill set . Most PO "upgrades" I find myself redoing as they are hacks .On top Very few people do recent upgrades on a boat they are going to sell so everything is a little tired .
My favourite boat is unmolested , factory orriginals and well cared for . No instrument panel with 10 old holes in it , no mystery holes in the deck .
@@faircompetition1203 agreed, but you suddenly stumble in a whole other price bracket, perhaps a bit steep for a first sailboat.
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I was talking to my slip neighbor last weekend about a friend of his who was looking for advice on buying his first boat. He put it perfectly. Don’t buy shiny, buy complete. Cleaning, buffing, waxing and bright work can all be done easily and relatively inexpensive. But buying a shiny boat that isn’t complete will cost you way more.
I sailed over 10,000 blue water miles solo on a 24-foot full keel boat with hank on headsails. The roller furling NEVER failed because I didn’t have it. The hank-on sails were never an issue. Once when running under a storm jib in 55 kt winds gusting above that I had the peace of mind of knowing the storm jib was designed for those conditions and didn’t worry about roller ‘failing’. .
The title of this video could be “I don’t like hank-on headsails”
I agree totally. I've owned 7 sailboats. One had no headsail, two had "Other" types of headsails with a "Head Foil" around the headstay in one, or "set flying" like an 18th century cutter in the other, 3 had hanked on headsails, and my last cruising boat, bought in 2000 when hanked on headsails were even rarer than cars with manual transmissions, had roller furling. In 1969, I was young and stupid enough to install roller furling on a perfectly good sloop with hanked on jib. First time I used it, I pulled on the furling line and the foot of the sail rolled up neatly, while the rest of the sail was free and luffing. I have had roller furled sails jam halfway furled and go neither in or out. They distort the shape of the sail, leading to poor performance on all points of sail and all degrees of setness/furledness except running free, and at anchor the add windage forward that causes the boat to "sail" back and forth with a violent jerk on the anchor line at the end of each swing. I tried using a second anchor and anchoring by the stern; both of those techniques worked, but the ultimate solution was selling that last cruising boat and not replacing it.
Very early on roller furling had slight issues but it’s been a non issue ever since and I’d venture to say it’s quite a bit safer to boot, especially single handed. I can furl my sails from cockpit and don’t have to go up on the bow. The only reason to keep Hank on head sail is nostalgia and resistance to change. Next you’ll be telling us self tailing winches are bad…
Look for a boat that is consistently and recently sailed. A 20 year old boat that’s sat for a year or 2 can be in much worse condition then a 40 year old boat sailed weekly and maintained.
How can you tell this?
@@markknoop777 speak with the owner. Speak to neighbouring boat owners. Ask the Marina. You can check registration dates. There will be other signs- sticky winches, old bottom paint, old corroded zincs, mood and mildew, rotten lines.
Scrounged a local yatch club for boats that looked to be sitting a couple years. Found one that had sat 5yrs. Interior had a racoon in it but dry. 2 months later I just sailed her yesterday and today anchored out and went swimming. 1200 for the mooring. But that includes showers, coock outs, grills ect. Spend a few hundred on odds and ends and rebedding every thing. Many good boats out here waiting for love!
It’s not so much the cost in dollars. As hobbies go, sailing is more expense but the real cost is time commitment. If you want to get your moneys worth, you have to go out there and sail. It’s not like a computer game that you squeeze in for an hour or two before bedtime.
So the true cost of sailing is time and commitment.
Kinda like your relationship only with fewer headaches
Yep. A yacht is a horse, it isn't a motorcycle. You've got to home it, tend to its hooves, feed it, attend to its health requirements and so on, whether you ride it or not. A bike can be put up on the centre stand in the corner of the shed with a trickle charger on the battery and forgotten about until next season.
I've got several friends encouraging me to buy a yacht. I live 75 miles from the nearest club. There's not "just popping down to the boat", where I am. They don't "get it".
Totally agree. Sail boats are like big dogs, you can't leave them alone too long or bad things happen! If you don't like maintenance, and lots of it, don't buy a sail boat. All part of the deal, you take good care of your boat and she'll take good care of you.
@@markcorter6082 My Dad owned a 33' carvel planked sloop for 6 years. He reckons that he really missed it when he sold it. To get his sailing fix fulfilled, he'd often get a ride on his friend's boats.
If they weren't going out, Dad would stand under a shower, fully clothed and tear up a pile of ten dollar notes. Then he'd go outside (in his wet clothes) and do repairs to the house for six or seven hours.
When he was finished on one side of the house, he'd go around to the other side of the house and break something, so he had something to do next week.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I think I know your dad. Without the purpose of “that” work, there is no purpose at all.
A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into.
It all comes down to what you can do and what you have to pay someone to fix, maintain, replace. You pay for the boat once you pay for Slip, maintenance, Insurance and upgrades for the whole period you own the boat.
Bought a 23ft. trailer sailer with only a week of experience with a laser as a kid. My wife and I didn't even know if it had everything we needed to sail. Got lucky and it floated, the honda motor ran, and the rigging and sails worked! We have fixed everything that was broken or breaking and sailed the river and a lake for some summer weekends. Took ASA101 in key largo, and also 103 in Mobile Bay, my wife went hard in 23 knots of wind she ran a big Beneteau 40 to 9knots with a grin on her face. We bought a Hunter 37c last year and have been working on that boat since. We aim to be back on the water in the next few months and then heading down the tombigbee and out to salt water for the first time in the boats life! I'm pouring every hour and dollar into it. I'm learning only slightly faster that I am getting it all done. You videos have really helped inspire me this far and we still have a long way to go and so many things to learn. Thank you for what you do.
That's awesome! Thanks so much for watching!
If you're anywhere near Cuba Landing Marina along the Tennessee River... You have a fellow sailor with a similar goal, who's also a marine mechanic happy to lend a hand. Currently working on a 73' Columbia 30' as a liveaboard for me and the Mrs.
Just curious... did you do your ASA @ Key Lime in Key Largo? I was Paul's marine mechanic last season before moving to tech in Nashville.
Nope never been there- sorry
@@LadyKSailing Actually bud, the reply was to the fellow posting. He referred to key largo for his asa testing. Anywho lol... really like your practical sailor content. I'm going to try to apply to the writing position and I owe you a thanks for mentioning it on one of your videos.
@@michfloridaman I only met Paul once or twice. We have been to Key Lime twice actually once for the 101 and then another time just to go for fun because the price for a bungalow and a boat was the same as others pay for just a hotel room. the last time was 2 years ago.
Thanks for the comment, keep following and as we pass through your area I will try to say hello!
I’m eighty. Gave up sailing 5 years ago for reasons of health.
After owning a fistful of yachts from age 7 to 75 I can confirm that the absolutely best times you will ever have with a yacht are 1). The day you buy her and, 2). The day you sell her.
Looking back, as a general rule, small boats are not only cheaper and can be kept at home but, if I’m honest, they’re more fun to sail, too.
Well said!
Cost is strongly dependent on where you use and keep your boat. Here in Maine you will pay quite a lot for winter storage and marina slips are much more expensive than down south. The marina I am at has a minimum charge of $4,500 for May through October if your boat is under 30'. If you opt to keep the boat on a mooring, you can budget $1,500-$2,000 for renting a mooring for the 10 years it will take to work your way to the top of the wait list to get your own.Winter outside storage in a yard will generally run about $75-$100/ft plus the cost of shrink wrap which is often required. You will also have to pay for haul/launch and stepping/unstepping masts plus mast storage charges. Another cost will be pressure washing the hull at haulout. Also fewer and fewer yards around here allow DIY work on the boat so you need to factor in the cost of bottom paint and labor, plus labor for anything else that needs doing (winterizing engines and water systems, varnish paint, etc. That 23' boat would likely cost $8K+ to keep in a slip and yard store in winter here. Also you forgot insurance which you will have to get to keep your boat in a slip. You can often add a small boat under 26' to your homeowners insurance policy for very little money as long as the boat isn't too valuable.
If your boat is small enough to go on a trailer, off season storage will be much easier and cheaper since you can keep it at home. You can store a keel boat on a trailer although you may have to have the boat lifted of/on the trailer for launch/haul. You can keep a 24-26 foot boat on a trailer and tow it home if you have a suitable truck.
When I lived in New Brunswick I kept my boat on a mooring at a provincial park. The people who kept their boats there got together to hire a crane for launch and haul. It was very cheap then. I think we paid about $75 to the park for mooring rental for the summer, about $200 for each persons part of the haul/launch crane rental and my insurance ran about $75 as a rider on my home owner's policy. I trailered the boat home and kept it in my driveway. My all up annual base cost was about $400 including licensing my trailer. I probably spent another few hundred a year for maintenance and upgrades. My boat back then was a Challenger 7.4 - A Canadian boat. Since I was in New Brunswick my costs were in Canadian dollars. If my boat had been too big to trailer, I would have had to spend more to join the local yacht club to get access to their storage yard and haul/launch facilities since there were no commercial boat yards in Fredericton NB back then (80s and 90s)..
Thank so much for the info!
Tim, I'm hoping to get into sailing sometime in the future and I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate your informative videos. Thank you.
Great to hear! I appreciate that!
Agree with everything but you could definitely get on the water much cheaper. I’m in Texas and Catalina 22 are a dime a dozen going from $1500-$2500 for a sailing boat with outboard and trailer. With a trailer you can park in your driveway for free and if it isn’t stored in saltwater the bottom paint will last a decade and those boats are so plentiful new parts are affordable and still sold by Catalina and used parts/sails are plentiful and very cheap. I’d highly suggest that route for a new sailor so they don’t get overwhelmed with costs.
I can confirm that hank-on is a PITA.
Experience is from the boat club's racer (L23) sailboats.
For a first cheap boat hank on sails arent as big a deal as you make it out to be.
Attach the sail while on dock, leave an elastic strap across the top of it if its windy. When youre ready to raise it walk forward and release the elastic (if you used it) then raise the jib from the cockpit.
To drop it simply heave to (tack but leave the jib/genoa on the windward side) then drop the halyard.
The sail will stay on deck and then you can go forward to pack it or strap it down till dock.
I sail a 26ft with no autohelm and Ive never had any issues with the headsail when solo.
I genuinely love this channel, down to earth real info no flush or bikini shots. A genuine YT Sailor.
Thank you so much!
good, wouldn't want to see him in a bikini anyways. 😇
Hey now🤣
Ha ha. I owned a used sail boat for 15 years. Did lots of improvements and good maintenance. Net cost was over $100,000. It is a terrible investment, but I don’t regret doing it.
I had a First 235 for a couple years. Great boats that punch way above their class!! Very quick and great layout for it's size!!
Thanks it gives me hope,
No common men, a clipped foresail is no a hassle. Before you leave the dock clip the sail attach the lines. When out on the water pull the line the sail goes up easy.
Down get full head wind. Let the sail down. Clip it with a elastic line and you are done.
I’ve sailed with these jibs single handed for years. They are not as easy as a roller yes but they can easily be managed single handed with any issue
Great information, thanks Tim! Marty
Glad it was helpful!
This is such a rad channel. Love ya , man
Thanks so much! And thank you for watching!
Perfect! Well done Tim.
Many thanks!
Fantastic videos! huge fan instantly
Thanks for watching!
As a great lakes sailor, I retired to Oriental N C. A great sailing community. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Tim, Love that you highlighted Oriental. That's my sailing area and for the state of NC, it's quite a happening place for sailors.
thanks, I visited there on the way south and again on the way back, fantastic place!
Excellent advise for those looking into sailing or buying a first boat. I would also add that looking for boats that have been in salt water versus fresh water can make a big difference in the condition of certain onboard items, such as thruhulls, lines, etc..
Great tip!
Thanks a lot. This is very inspiring!
Glad it was helpful!
Some fantastic tips in this video.
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful advice.
Glad it was helpful!
Sailing is the most expensive way to go somewhere slowly
Tim knocking it out the park, as usual. Great vid. Love right back at ya, man 🧡 fr skye.
Much appreciated
I love my Beneteau 235. The Hank on jib let’s me change sails (that still perform well) as the conditions demand. I would never leave the marina without having a jib already rigged and ready to hoist though. That’s just good seamanship. Dropping the jib is easy with just back winding it and releasing the halyard. No need for dramatics. The jib drops right on deck. Auto pilot isn’t needed either. Maybe just a tiller lock. Better yet heave to, to manage all sail changes if you don’t have crew.
I think one can get by without roller-furling, and do it without even an auto-pilot. The trick is to set the boat on an upwind course. You can usually get one to self-steer on such a course.
Another trick ist to have a down-haul, so the jib can be lowered before you have to go up forward to remove it.
Roller-furl gear must be of the top quality, because if itfailsyouare in even bigger trouble than if you had no such gear in the first place.
Down-hauls aresimple and quite cheap to set up. And they are incredibly reliable.
My first boat was a C&C 30e and i still got it :D
Love ur videos man! helps me all the way in Sweden.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent, thanks.
I'll give you an ep. topic soon on my latest misadventures.
I would love that boat as I am a racer but now am thinking I need a cruising boat mix. But, I live in Arizona and would "cruise" on a lake. Still a good choice but I can't buy one here. So, I would recommend a Catalina or Capri. Here, the C-24 is very available and is raced. Same with the 25 and 28 and a few Capris are available. In fact, Catalina brand boots are available all over the country.
I have a 1980 W.D. Shock Santana 525. It has a 5hp long shaft Honda outboard. Twosets of sails and a trailer. If you can come to Tulsa, you can have it for 5k
We just recently purchased a 1989 Catalina 30 MKII Tr for 22k. She has work as every boat does but it’s a nice floating condo year round in Texas for us. The family has spent more time there than at the house for the last 45 days. I’ll be happy to take her out when I get off soon.
Iike your comments about hanked on vs furling jib. Funny story: I used to have a hanked on genny on my pearson 26 and, after rigging a downhaul that went back to the cockpit, learned how to flake it on the deck on take down. I’d steer with the tiller between my knees, downhaul in one hand, and halyard in the other. I’d steer a little bit to one side of the wind, then the other while taking down, and the wind would flake the sail for me on the deck. 😂😂😂. Of course this was in moderate wind…
Sailing lessons are a good start, cheap and you meet a skilled sailor
Great channel
Thanks for watching!
Great episode, I have been looking all over Southern Ontario and comparing prices, age, etc. One day soonish....but for the meantime, if you are land locked like I am, the sunfish or similar is a really great suggestion. And, as a cottage hack....absofrickin-lutely, a good cottage rental for one week would be your yearly boat owning expense.
I learned sailing on small dingies, then I upgraded to a 28ft Jaguar.
The latest boat I sailed was a 60ft Oyster.
Start small once you know how it doesn't matter how big the boat is.
Yes you need some skill to handle a bigger boat but the principals are the same.
Hey Lady K, we’re super into your content, and are working on going sailing full time. This video is titled a bit different than the content, are you planning a series out of this? Thanks for all the great info!
Furler and sail must be matched. Decide if you want to keep the sails you have then match the furler to them. Or plan on a new foresail, cut and sewn to go with the new furler.
p.s. I love my CDI
6:12 That pretty much describes my whole afternoon sailing, on my 19' day sailer. All this hectic work is kind of what makes sailing my boat fun. My "auto pilot" is a rope that holds the tiller in one position (sometimes I have to run back and use my foot to reposition it). I can lower my jib with a downhaul line I rigged up, but the rest of the experience is just as you described. Plus dealing with wakes of power boats.
On the other hand, I wonder if I'm getting too old for this. When I do get a 30' cruising boat, I think I'm going for furling jib AND main, all lines led to cockpit. Different kind of fun. (I'd like to keep both boats, though.)
thank you
thank you for watching!
I’m almost ready to buy my first keel boat ever. Looking at a 75 yankee 26 with a blown inboard in otherwise good shape for a great deal. Gonna pull up my sleeves and dive in thanks for the motivation over these past few years
Thanks for watching!
Hey Tim, loved this video like so many others before. I hope you someday come over to Europe and take a look at the sailing scene here...and become available as a guide in buying a sailboat this side of the Atlantic. Next one will be my second boat. First one was a Lagoon 440 and that was a bit too much boat for someone not knowing sh*t, so I would like to get some help this time around.
Again, love your videos!
That would be cool! Thanks so much for watching!
Sailing itself is not expensive as the wind is free. Owning a boat (and I am not talking about something smaller than 25ft), on the other hand can get very expensive if things go wrong and/or are worn out. So let’s get real about all of this. Marina fees, my 1974 30ft boat in my local marina costs $6k per year to keep it in its floating berth. Annual boat registration is cheap $100, insurance is $1600. Fuel costs really depend on how often one uses the boat and how much you use the boat.. Now my boat cost $32K but it’s two previous owners invested around $35K in maintenance costs over about a 4-6 yr period, inc a new Volvo penta D1-30 engine, new folding prop, new sails, new furler, new Harken 40 primary winches, new B&G wind instrument, new sheets, quite a lot of new interior paintwork/all external timber trims revarnished etc. So did myself and my co-owner get a bargain, possibly. However, at some stage we will want to have the boat completely repainted (est cost $6K +), replace the outdated chartplotter (est $1k), dinghy ($1K), new anchor ($1K), new compass ($500), plus a myriad of potential gear upgrades etc, so again this is likely to cost quite a few thousand. We do its annual maintenance (scrub/antifoul/annodes servicing etc - but even this costs perhaps all up $500-1K.
So taking all of this into consideration no owning a boat isn’t cheap, but it’s a lifestyle activity that I want to do. So, i am ok in accepting the costs in owning and running a boat so I can go sailing. Oh and at some point in the not too distant future the running rigging is going to have to be replaced, so that’s going to be around another $6K.
So think it all through before buying a boat.
Sorry Lady K sailing but that’s the reality of this activity.
Boat ownership is expensive. My advice has always been to go to your local yacht club or mariner and let your presence be known. You'll get a ride and it will cost you virtually nothing.
Too true mate, and that is why for the first 8 years after taking up sailing it’s all I did, sailed on other people’s boats, club racing, coastal cruising and offshore passages. The itch finally came though to get my own boat. How long will I own it, who knows ?? For the time being I am enjoying it.
@@1240enzo One could go with a small simple 15 ft open sailboat, e.g. a cat boat.
Plenty of space without a cabin.
It should of course have positive buoyancy (can't sink even if the boat is filled with water) - a smallish bimini is also a good addition.
First keel was a Catalina 22 with trailer for $500. Dry storage yard had crane and would drop boat for $125 per month. Good times.😎
If you can't afford to buy a boat with a furling already on it, or purchase a roller furling in addition to the boat, you can't afford the boat. Of coarse, this is my opinion, but I started sailing with hanked-on head sails 50 years ago and after 3 or 4 years of that, I discovered the world of roller furling. I almost always am single handed sailing and for that the furling system was the best invention mankind has ever made! Fair winds to all!
You can get a small boat furler for about $600 USD. They are easy to install. You will also have to spend a hundred or two to get luff tape added to your head sail. Well worth it if you ask me. I am now in my 70s and wouldn't be sailing if I had to hank on my jib every time I went out. A 500 sq.ft. jib is heavy and cumbersome.
Seems like a hassle and kind of delicate to put on a trailer sailer.
@@Tb0n3 Not really. A CDI flexible furler is designed for trailer sailers.
Sounds great, but where I live in Michigan there is an 8-10 year waiting list for boat slips and then they run about $7,500 just for the summer. They can be purchased at private condo-style marinas, but run about $130,000 for a 30-ft slip… plus maintenance fees of about $1500/year, not even counting winter storage.
I am enjoying a small trailer sailer (I found an interesting old Expo Solar Sailer) but my desire for a larger boat seems unobtainable.
add in the insurance and the fuel costs. Then add in expense when something breaks - and it will.
Today I made the sub 300 mark in likes on both here and on PS! That makes today a GREAT day! 🙂
I am an F-235 owner (and have been sailing for over 50 years) I would live to do a 'zoom', video debate with you and argue your strong support for a roller furling headsle :)
All depends on the boat and location, of course. In Boca Raton or Ft. Lauderdale (FL), a slip with power and water costs a pretty penny. Not for the average Joe.
Cheers.
At 25$ an hour and living close to the beach in Florida I was ready to get my first boat. I probably could have done it with much less but I have to take care of my child.
You did the right thing. There will be a boat in your future.
Boat ownership might be a step to far at this point, but if you can at least find time, you can always crew on someone else's yacht. That will cost you a bit of petrol money
and maybe a small insurance fee when you go out. Gear is easy to source second hand. I had my backside hanging out of my jeans when I first started sailing.
Tohatsu absolutely is not Mercury... Tohatsu & Nissan are the same. However Tohatsu & Mercury have a contract where Mercury rebadges some smaller model Tohatsu outboards.
Yes Tohatsu is about 10 steps above Mercury. But it is good to know you can get parts at a Mercury dealer if need be.
Correct. I have a 2018ish 8 HP "mercury" which is absolutely a Tohatsu.
For every 100k you spend on your boat expect to drop 12k per year over a 5 year period plus depreciation. If thats not expensive for you then go for it.
I've been looking for my first boat for over a year now and am glad I waited because I can now see the sense in spending more than I originally intended. I am going for a second look at a First 305. It's a bigger boat than I was planning but I really like the layout and the behind mast furling system. I will mostly be sailing solo so am, obviously, a little nervous about the steep learning curve I have ahead of me. Have I made a good choice in going for the First 305? Any and all advice welcome.
$500/month for up to 30 foot slip (6 months-ish) and $2500 for winter storage (also 6 months-ish) or more here in northern Lake Michigan area...
If there was a Sailing Proletariat Party, this guy would be the Leader. ⭐
Hey Tim, iive got an Mac Wester Wight sloop 30ft gonna sail the world! From friesland the Netherlands!!! Just moved from my depressing appartement to my boat the Black Tulip! Keeping the heavy side down!
That's fantastic! You can do it!
Living in Miami, there's lots of places to rent a smaller sailboat. It's great, all the fun and none of the maintenance.
Belong to cooperative now. $50 per month gets me unlimited access to the boats that are well maintained and in the harbor in California
LKS…lots of talk about some of the disadvantages of a production boat. But is there an advantage as well? Meaning more readily available parts, people who know how to work on it, etc? Thanks for all the lessons
Happy early birthday Tim
Well thank you kindly!
buy it, rent it occasionally to pay the bills or
don't buy it but rent it when has the urge to go sailing 😉
As someone in the process with there first boat, get insurance for emergency water towing. First time out engine blew and was unable to sail back to port. $$$
How are the videos going on painting the Lady K?
Very curious how that turned out! Looking forward to seeing the finished product
Coming soon!
Holy smokes you have expensive marinas. I thought my spot in Norway was expensive at $1000/yr. The usual ones are around $400/yr but they will require a $4000 deposit. Electricity is usually extra.
A focus on hankin job sails. I was sold on jib sails because furling sails introduce a lot of wind loading and weight high up. They also jam badly. The idea that your modest hull can snap upright in a storm and lean less is exciting. More seaworthy = more adventures. I don't know where you get the idea of a 1.45 jib. That is awkward for you and me. A Beneteau 30.1 ad shows Dutchmen with a modest jib and a traveler behind it, while they swoop through different headings and the boat handles light and straight. This is by no means a light seas filming. Just a north Atlantic taste. It's in Dutch.
The wet slips in that area are an anomaly, very reasonable because there are a LOT of marinas in that area.
It's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop.
Take REALLY good care of your motor if you’re going to think of it as a safety net. A lot of sailors neglect and abuse their motors and then it doesn’t start when they really need it.
Nice video Tim, good to see costs, did not see insurance in the figures. How bad is that in N.C or Florida?
Between 500-1200 depending on the boat, your experience and insurer.
Also note: insurance is not a legal requirement. SOME marinas will want you to have it, some won't bother asking.
@@bobloblaw1720 I have never insured a paid off boat or ATV. No need IMO. Then again, I don't do anything too wild with my toys.
It's very sad that I have to multiply this by 3 for the Turkish market... In a poorer market, everything is more expensive for some reason.
Tim, dou you have recommendations for a source of good marine plywood in Essex, Kent area?
I've had my first boat for 7 years now. She is a Hunter 23 and I keep her in Racine Wisconsin. She is great for the quick weekend get away.
I wish more people could see how adorable and fun it is to sail.
It is the slowest most expensive way to travel. Boat= A hole in the water you throw money in.
What do you think of a Yacht club that offers training and use of the club boats for a fee? I just took my ASA 101 with a local club here in the Puget sound and their club membership, the lowest option is only $50 per month plus a $500 security deposit. They have several boats up to 26' in a couple local marinas. I'd like to hear your opinion on that approach vs ownership, perhaps a show idea? Anyways, keep up the good work.
Marinas are getting expensive in VA. From $3500 to $6800 for a 40 ft slip
Plus insurance is difficult on older boats..have to prove a min of 5 yrs of boat ownership to be eligible
Is a tiller better than a wheel ?
is a wheel better than a tiller ?
is it better to have the rudder in the back of the boat or the bottom ?
are pintles and gudgeons over rated ?
Up hauls and down hauls led back to the cockpit fix your hank on jib issues
Also, set it up at the slip and stick one sail tie around the sail and a lifeline (or whatever). It's really not a big deal.
Wish this was the case in Japan.
8k for a house that moves?! Yes please ❤
no air conditioning in North carolina summer? wow.. yeah no. might be a bit better at the coast with a sea breeze but still hot and humid and miserable
Say you buy a nice boat and not an older inexpensive boat. Do you need to worry about someone stealing it from the marina when you are at home?
Thanks I got super lucky, a blind 🎯 If you will 😅😅😅. 74 Laguna 24' Suzuki 6hp outboard, trailer 5 sails new... for a now realized steal. Well deserved though IMHO. this video got her in the water.
Nice work!
I’m selling a Bristol 27 for 1500$ needs work but 5k total investment really nice boat add 5k take this little boat around the world 10k. I hate rich people mostly the attitude that how dare poor people sail.
I am looking at a Bandholm 24 for 1500,00Euro. Would love to sail around the world. I still am full of doubt if it is the right thing to do. It needs a new starter but other than that it seems in good condition.
I wish slips for Aussie boats were that cheap.
This is a bargain. Try this cost analysis in Miami.
It sounds cheap enough, but when you factor in Insurance, dockage, if you live in the North, winter storage, fuel, How far do you live from your boat, More Gas, Fenders, dock lines, fire extinguisher, The list can get very large.
Take lessons with an instructor. Learn the basics on club boats. Then you know if you like it or hate it.
Someone that just bought a sailboat last year I have to say it is anything but inexpensive
Changing the sails from hang on to furler is going to cost you $1000 to get both done as well... or I'm paying too much :D
Boating is not expensive. Until something expensive breaks.
How is it expensive financially?
But it is time expensive to learn to sail.