Sure .. you make it look simple and easy ... then we mortals go try it and ... yup, sand blasted matte finish will do. Amazing talent and patience.. thanks for sharing!
Absolutely love your video Chris.... thanks for a massive satisfying whatch. But still miss your voice over on your other channel. Hope everything is well with you and hope to hear you soon. Can get enough off your work. Have a great day buddy...
G'day Mike! If you haven’t found out yet, the next full episode of the Antikythera Mechanism build went up on Clickspring on 13th December, 2020, with details of a new discovery he made. Also check his description for the link to download their research article in the British Horological Institute publication, which he's been working on for several years, for an in depth write-up of their discoveries. It's free, and is one of the things Chris pushed for with this release :)
@@theselectiveluddite thanks. I did not get the notification so I missed that one but I'm verry excited to the project. I was aware that is content is different because off the research but still miss his beautiful voice over. Hope it will not be petreon only because I can not become one. But still love his work and I messif admire his skills.. thanks for your message 🙂
@@Mike.098 No, it's free to all :) including being able to download their research paper (linked in the description) Enjoy :) ruclips.net/video/MkKgdq57uOo/видео.html
It's a way to make a press fit as far as I understand it. The rivet expands in all directions filling the "hole(s)" entirely. In this application I guess it must sustain shear forces (which it will do) and the press fit won't let it escape. I'll guess you can "easily" drive out the "rivets" if needed to disassemble for repair, and then peen new ones back. (Countersinking as suggested will make the pins hard to remove for repair, you might have to drill them out (if that can be done at all - usually the "rivets" starts turning with the drill; I know from experience. You can still drive them out with force but now it becomes ugly, possibly deforming the parts peened together).
When peening the rivet will expand in the hole and really stick in it. Correctly done it will not be easily removed. Sometimes the hole is made slightly conical (wider in the opening) to secure the expanded rivet even more. This is atleast to my understanding. Hope it is to some help for you.
Your right It must deform the surrounding material slightly to create a wedge. The material would most likely be dispersed out and upward around the rivet which is knocked down with the sanding I think
In addition to the friction on the walls of the hole a chamfer on either end can provide space for the rivet to fill. Also, hammering the rivet into place moves a small amount material as it fills in. So yes, you are correct about deformation to a degree. Clickspring's work is so precise I wouldn't be surprised if he can rely on friction alone.
This is the sanding technique Adam Savage talked about in a in one of the previous Tested videos! (About weathering a Mandelorian prop, I think). It must be so cool to have your skills recognized and name referenced so many times by someone like Adam!
I watched you perform every step and I’m still perplexed as to how they just disappeared. Not even the slightest line or gap. It’s one piece of brass now. Wow.
That was so cool, and a very useful skill to know for making so many things, simply. I would've left the flowerets on the one side (use to balance the spinny-gear thing?), but I'm not clickspring.
I was on the RUclips home screen trying to scroll back to the top when one of my cats decided to climb up me, and I accidentally hit a *woodworking* tab (!) Well done RUclips for not knowing the difference between brass and wood.
I have a question about the mechanism... Since all the gears are fixed in place with rivets during production, how is are the gears adjusted to get them timed correctly? I'm not an engineer or anything, so I may not be using the correct terminology, but essentially, how do you set it so,may, there isn't a solar eclipse during during an Olympic year if there isn't supposed to be? Does this question make sense?
Interesting, using the kneaded eraser to remove grit and filings as you work. I have a better understanding of how you get such an amazing blemish free finish now.
No hole is perfectly smooth or perfectly round. The peening not only spreads the head of the rivet, it swells the body of the rivet shaping it to all the imperfections of the holes in the parts being bound together. Since this never sees strong loads the head is unnecessary.
Can someone explain this to me. After peening the ends, what holds it all together after you file off what material was peened over? Does the peening squash the shaft of material going through the parts?
There's usually a little countersink on the holes to fill in with the peened material. Either that or the peening process forces an even higher friction fit between the rivet and the material being held.
It's called a bench block, nice to have. "Machinist bench block" will show you results for steel ones like his, otherwise just "bench block" will be mostly plastic ones for gunsmithing
Great job. Beautiful finish. A quick question, what keeps the pins in place if you have filed away the overflow peen? Did the holes have a chamfer that the peening filled in to allow you to file away the excess? Or is it now just a flush friction fit?
I was peening the evening before last. Trying to keep an old, chevron type, potato masher alive. Nobody seems to make these mashers anymore. One of these days I'm going to run out of fork to peen.
I finished the vid and then saw the title. It was obvious what he is doing but I just clicked before I even read what this was about. I hope this gives you motivation, click. If anyone else is like me, I don't really care what the thumbnail or title is. Just post content and I will watch..... Multiple times.
Soften the brass rivet by heating to a dull red color and immediately quench in water. If that's too soft then don't heat as much and let it slowly cool on a brick.
I never noticed you're left-handed! Cool!
Fascinating content. Absolutely riveting.
...I'll see myself out.
Absolutely beautiful Chris
Sure .. you make it look simple and easy ... then we mortals go try it and ... yup, sand blasted matte finish will do.
Amazing talent and patience.. thanks for sharing!
You are realy fast with the hammer. ;) Great content, as ever.
Glad to have you back. Hands down the best hobby machinist channel on youtube.
Time to binge watch an entire channel at 1:00 am
I quite liked the arts and crafts look of the rivets before finishing !
Absolutely love your video Chris.... thanks for a massive satisfying whatch. But still miss your voice over on your other channel. Hope everything is well with you and hope to hear you soon. Can get enough off your work. Have a great day buddy...
G'day Mike! If you haven’t found out yet, the next full episode of the Antikythera Mechanism build went up on Clickspring on 13th December, 2020, with details of a new discovery he made. Also check his description for the link to download their research article in the British Horological Institute publication, which he's been working on for several years, for an in depth write-up of their discoveries. It's free, and is one of the things Chris pushed for with this release :)
@@theselectiveluddite thanks. I did not get the notification so I missed that one but I'm verry excited to the project. I was aware that is content is different because off the research but still miss his beautiful voice over. Hope it will not be petreon only because I can not become one. But still love his work and I messif admire his skills.. thanks for your message 🙂
@@Mike.098 No, it's free to all :) including being able to download their research paper (linked in the description) Enjoy :) ruclips.net/video/MkKgdq57uOo/видео.html
The disappearing rivets are back!
My thought too!
There were no rivets. Merely your imagination.
@@Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster Thanks for clearing that up for us
I'm probably becoming old but I feel the urge to comment it every single time I see it. :D
Chris the Magician's best trick - making rivets (and pins, etc.) disappear!
Such a great illustration and insight into peening. Thanks.
Excellence, as expected!! Thank you so much for sharing!
Amazing to see them going, going, gone... :)
Yet another amazing video. Thank you
Simply beautiful.
I've made enough by hand to know this is art. Also, your hands aren't nearly beaten up as mine, do you moisturize?
"Does Chris moisturize?"
I seem to remember that from somewhere, sounds very familiar...
In reality, all Chris' moisturize, it's an universal rule.
@@yonidellarocha9714 older mr beast video
This may be a simple question, but how does the connection not fail after filing it flat? Does peening the rivet also deform the metal accepting it?
It's a way to make a press fit as far as I understand it. The rivet expands in all directions filling the "hole(s)" entirely. In this application I guess it must sustain shear forces (which it will do) and the press fit won't let it escape. I'll guess you can "easily" drive out the "rivets" if needed to disassemble for repair, and then peen new ones back. (Countersinking as suggested will make the pins hard to remove for repair, you might have to drill them out (if that can be done at all - usually the "rivets" starts turning with the drill; I know from experience. You can still drive them out with force but now it becomes ugly, possibly deforming the parts peened together).
When i use brass rivets like this i usually put a little countersink in the hole which can help.
When peening the rivet will expand in the hole and really stick in it. Correctly done it will not be easily removed. Sometimes the hole is made slightly conical (wider in the opening) to secure the expanded rivet even more. This is atleast to my understanding. Hope it is to some help for you.
Your right It must deform the surrounding material slightly to create a wedge. The material would most likely be dispersed out and upward around the rivet which is knocked down with the sanding I think
In addition to the friction on the walls of the hole a chamfer on either end can provide space for the rivet to fill. Also, hammering the rivet into place moves a small amount material as it fills in.
So yes, you are correct about deformation to a degree.
Clickspring's work is so precise I wouldn't be surprised if he can rely on friction alone.
Ah...
I needed that.
I'm always in awe that you can do that. Make the pins disappear. I can't do that, but I work with leather. Lol
Someone who hasn't seen these will look at the finished piece in hundreds of years and wonder "how the heck do these parts stay together?!?"
More like, how do I get this apart to repair it without destroying the damned thing
Thats one good looking thingamabob.
Gorgeous. And satisfying.
This is the sanding technique Adam Savage talked about in a in one of the previous Tested videos! (About weathering a Mandelorian prop, I think).
It must be so cool to have your skills recognized and name referenced so many times by someone like Adam!
Finally I've waited for so long
Chris😇, have always had the “patience of a saint” or is it something that you have had to teach yourself 👍🏴
I watched you perform every step and I’m still perplexed as to how they just disappeared. Not even the slightest line or gap. It’s one piece of brass now. Wow.
You are my inspiration. 👍👍👍👍
That was so cool, and a very useful skill to know for making so many things, simply. I would've left the flowerets on the one side (use to balance the spinny-gear thing?), but I'm not clickspring.
I was on the RUclips home screen trying to scroll back to the top when one of my cats decided to climb up me, and I accidentally hit a *woodworking* tab (!)
Well done RUclips for not knowing the difference between brass and wood.
ПРИВЕТ ИЗ УЗБЕКИСТАН 🤝👍👍👍👍
I have a question about the mechanism... Since all the gears are fixed in place with rivets during production, how is are the gears adjusted to get them timed correctly? I'm not an engineer or anything, so I may not be using the correct terminology, but essentially, how do you set it so,may, there isn't a solar eclipse during during an Olympic year if there isn't supposed to be? Does this question make sense?
abi çok emek veriyorsun, eline sağlık.
Interesting, using the kneaded eraser to remove grit and filings as you work.
I have a better understanding of how you get such an amazing blemish free finish now.
When is it appropriate to use this technique and what's the likelihood of failure?
I’m no expert but aren’t rivets held in place with the overlapping metal - didn’t you just file away the overlap? What holds them, now? I’m confused.
hello, please tell me what kind of glue you glued the sandpaper to the glass?
This channel is OCD safe.
This channel is my OCD therapy
I still can't understand how the rivets don't just fall out when you have removed the peened over part that was holding them in ?
No hole is perfectly smooth or perfectly round. The peening not only spreads the head of the rivet, it swells the body of the rivet shaping it to all the imperfections of the holes in the parts being bound together. Since this never sees strong loads the head is unnecessary.
@@honorharrington4546 thanks for letting me know that, my experience of rivets is with leather, it had me puzzled seeing this
How long did the peening and lapping take?
Impeccable
Can someone explain this to me. After peening the ends, what holds it all together after you file off what material was peened over?
Does the peening squash the shaft of material going through the parts?
There's usually a little countersink on the holes to fill in with the peened material. Either that or the peening process forces an even higher friction fit between the rivet and the material being held.
I should not mention the scratches.
Mais um ótimo serviço, perfeito.
What is that clay(ish) material ?
It’s Rodico putty, a traditional watchmaking material. It’s got just enough tack to hold tiny particles.
dirty blu tack? 😂
what is the gizmo you use as an anvil when you flatten the rivets?
It's called a bench block, nice to have. "Machinist bench block" will show you results for steel ones like his, otherwise just "bench block" will be mostly plastic ones for gunsmithing
It's called a bench block. Starrett makes a nice one.
That’s called a “bench block”. Google that and you’ll find them.
art
I'm unconsciously tilting my phone to see if I can catch a reflection off that seam
If we didn’t know we would think you just stuck them on....
The artist in me says: "Beautiful".
The repair tech in me says: "What a dirty trick".
Artist in me does not mind visible rivets and repair tech in me is screaming.
G'day, Chris here. Today: MAGIC
Great job. Beautiful finish. A quick question, what keeps the pins in place if you have filed away the overflow peen? Did the holes have a chamfer that the peening filled in to allow you to file away the excess? Or is it now just a flush friction fit?
Friction.
The hammering will fatten the rivet shafts to maximum within their holes.
The pins expand in the hole and hold it in place
I was peening the evening before last. Trying to keep an old, chevron type, potato masher alive. Nobody seems to make these mashers anymore. One of these days I'm going to run out of fork to peen.
"These parts are held together with rivets!"
"What rivets? I don't see no rivets..."
Such stunningly beautiful high-quality work!
The peening upsets the metal to a press fit.
The hammered look of the rivets is cool looking to
it does, but if they're domed out like that it might interfere with the mechanism (but idk, not sure what this part is for)
Alta qualidade das peças, magnífico trabalho!! 👏👏👍👍
I finished the vid and then saw the title.
It was obvious what he is doing but I just clicked before I even read what this was about.
I hope this gives you motivation, click.
If anyone else is like me, I don't really care what the thumbnail or title is.
Just post content and I will watch.....
Multiple times.
nicely done
@Green Beetle : octopus clever
TFS Chris. G :)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
That was riveting!
Just Wow!
How long do you spend polishing out your fingerprints?
what fingerprints?
Fantastis video, one problem i have sometimes is the edge of the rivet will start to crack as im peening it, what can i do about that?
Sounds like you're work-hardening the rivet. My only guess is to go slower? I honestly have no idea.
Soften the brass rivet by heating to a dull red color and immediately quench in water. If that's too soft then don't heat as much and let it slowly cool on a brick.
I would literally watch this man filing his nails. Awesome work
Just beautiful, thanks for posting.