I Found 2 Pantera Engines Dirt Cheap on Marketplace!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- As you guys know I am kind of partial to my Ford cars and engines. And although I have built and raced several different engine platforms over the years I have never had a 335 series 351 Cleveland engine. Now these are getting pretty rare to find as they only produced them in the US for a mere 4 years. They were the most powerful small block V8 produced during the muscle car era and the 2 I bought actually came out of super rare DeTomaso Pantera super cars! Can't wait to build these and install them in some awesome Ford.
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Congratulations Josh !!!
You hit the jackpot!!!
Here in Australia the 4V closed chamber heads are the holy grail !!!
Look at the crank shafts and look for 4ma cast into crank
They are the best cranks
We had a falcon here in Australia in 1971 that was a GTHO
There were only 300 built
They were the fastest 4 door car on the planet for about 20 years…
All the parts you have there is what ford Australia used to produce the GTHO
These cars were about 425 hp straight from the factory
Look em up on RUclips!!!
Great find
Cheers from Australia!!!
Cleveland's are awesome, My brother had a 71 Cougar xr-7 with just a 2 barrel Cleveland that outran everything in town, you could stomp on it from a dead stop and it would fry the tires through all 3 gears and barely move. I can't imagine what the 4 barrel version would do.
Looks like Wawas bug is getting a engine swap😂😂😂
They LS swap 911s...why not a beetle... Kinda like bolting the wheels to the block itself...
I seen a Bug with a 454 in it, so why not? 😁
I've seen a bug with a 302 stuffed in the front
I've seen a bug with a 383 Mopar in it that could be steered with the throttle but her bug will be just fine for now with it's own engine ..up grades can come after she has her licence and driving experience
That’s the best idea ever
The V on those heads stands for Venturi. A Venturi is like a tube but gets narrower in the middle. This narrow section increases the air velocity which in creases the vacuum to draw fuel out of the float bowls on the carbs. `
A scientific word than barrel.
Thanks for the info...:)
Lol.. Some of these youngsters never heard that before! Your explanation was spot on! We learned that in school back in the 80's
I drive a semi 3800+ miles/week, once she gets in the car, I can’t drive across the street without her help😂😂😂 And a roundabout totally confuses her😂😂😂
Score!!! Had a big smile on my face the entire video! You had just the right timing to be the first to hit that FBMP ad. You know what Ricky Bobby's daddy says, "If you ain't first, you're last!" 👍🏁
That’s right
@@sleeperdude2690 im glad you got 2 of me!!!😀
Now put the 4v in the Fairmont for power tour
Right on 👍
One of my all time favorite cars and motors. You have been saying that you wanted to build a 351C For quite awhile so now you are off to the races! How awesome is that.
You had me thinking about my first car, a 1973 Ford Gran Torino Sport with a 351 Cleveland under the hood, i sure do miss it
Man, I love this family . Keep uploading vids. It's awesome to see a family so interested in old cars.
now days in this twisted society its nice seeing a normal family🤣
@danhard8440 I hear ya, brother
Amen to that! Need more fams like these guys!
Econoline E-100 josh. Mount a Cleveland behind the cab (like the little red wagon). Make a gasser out of it. That would be so awesome 👍😎
I've had several a100 dodges and they are fun even with a little power in the stock location. The whole engine is still behind the axle!
If OP is tossing Ideas for the Econoline{a terrible vehicle, and I owned one when nearly new} then put in a Tesla drive train!
"Marge" pickn up small block Fords...shes a Beast!!💪💪💪💪 luv you guys!!!
I hope you gave that dude another ’huge thanks’ for his big ❤️
👍👍👍
I had this happen in December. Got on marketplace there’s a 74 f100 listed an hour ago. Messaged and was first in line, went out and bought it the next morning. Good for you sleeperdude! This will be fun to watch get built.
Thank you
And Ralphy 4V the V stands for Venturi. Venturi just like your Dad said just means Barrels I have heard all kind of crazy things but that it.
You just have to love a Sleeperdude vid "mid-week" 😊
Love them anytime, I watch reruns in-between
Sure do.
I'm already 3/4 through watching this one twice. =)
Amen! That made my day!
@sleeperdude2 every time I watch your show I'm beating myself up for wrecking my old 59 Ford f series pickup and my 70 Chevy Nova. Thank you for keeping the dream alive! We need more old car aficionados out there that rescue these old things and show people how to do it
Yeah for sure, thank you
My first vehicle was a 59 F100 with a 272 I believe. Wish I had kept it. I also later had a 76 Nova Concours with 305 that I rebuilt to use on my rural mail route.
@@gregoryblair9810 no way gregory! My 59 was an F100 with a 272 also!! And they all had three on the tree obviously! That's awesome
I have to ask "WHY" is this needed? You might as well ask people to restore steam engines and drive them. Gas cars are the past; the tech is nearly 200 yrs old, and has been technically obsolete for 40 yrs +or- . This writer knew most of these cars when they were new, and I hated every one of them. A driving lifetime of carrying a whole tool box and 'half a parts store' in the trunk of my car. WHY is that good?
@@gregoryblair9810 on second though I remember mine having a 292 in it. That was a long time ago
Just throwing this out there. But I think you have a black fairmont wagon begging for a Cleveland. 🤪
Gotta go in a wagon, just has too.
That is an amazing find Josh, you scored big time with those 351C-4V heads, they are super hard to find.. Especially the closed chambers, to bad you didn't have that pair of the closed ones! Nice Job! I'm very eager to see the build on one of those.
Thank you, yeah that would have been nice
A lot of pretty damn fast 351 clevo and clevor (windsor block cleveland heads) powered street cars here in Australia. Try and build a backyard Boss engine. That'll be neat.
I don’t know what to say. I’m more excited than you are for this build. I’ve always wanted a 351 Cleveland. It’s gonna be fun I’ll be watching! What a score!
So cool
You hit the mother load!! I've had a couple Clevelands in early 70s Torino's. They were 4V motors and ran great. They were a tiny bit sluggish in low RPM but with a good stall it's not a problem. With a clutch pedal it'll be great. Can't wait to see where it goes!!
Ralphie , the v stands for venturi (barrel) . A 4 barrel has 4 venturi's . The venturi blend fuel/air and cause the air to speed up going past them . Class dismissed 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I agree with you if it's a screaming deal and you know it... pay the man what he's asking ...it's the honourable thing to do..much respect Josh and your teaching the kids the proper way to treat people .........looking forward to whatever you build those engines for...Karl from eastern Canada
Awesome video guys thanks for sharing ❤
Thanks for watching!
The 351 cleveland is a bulletproof motor. My 73 Mach1 has proven it for the 47+ plus years I’ve owned it. You’ll love it.
I know nothing about engines but Josh's excitement says it all. More than a kid in a candy store, more like a kid given a candy factory! He's actually breathless describing the pieces parts! Very fun to watch 😃
Thank you
There are a few Ford "holy grail" engines from the 60s & 70s: the Boss 302, Boss 429, 427 SOHC and the 351 Cleveland 4V
:59 I have no idea what a 351 Cleveland is but I'm glad you finally got something you've always wanted, Mr. Sleeperdude.
4:43 What was that face you made, Wawa?! 😂
Blessed and Highly Favored. That's what I'm talkin about. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
Thanks buddy
Nothing beats grilled cheese sammies & tomato soup. Unless y'all talking sleeper dude. Gitty up tater chip.
Two 351 Clevelands! 💪 Freaking awesome.
I OWNED A 70 TORINO, 351 CLEVELAND, 4 ON DA FLOOR.. WAS VERY QUICK
my 75 gran torino sport had a swapped 351 4V Cleve, gloss black w/Starsky stripe - dusted off all the hot rod B-bodys my friends had
The 351C is my favorite motor of all time. I actually sold the last set of heads to a guy in Australia that worked for Ford over there. Ended up selling the block to a guy here locally. I can't wait to see what you do with these engines.
Panterra in a Beetle! Can’t wait!
That would be awesome
@@sleeperdude2690 need wheelie bars for sure 👍👍
DOOO ITTTT!!!!
Sleeperdude bonus video life is good❤❤
Yup score. Assemble one engine as package. Then flip build other. One
@@gerry-p9x no way you know he is keeping both🤣
i commented he should boost the 4 bolt main🤣
@@danhard8440 gotta get caps added and line bore. It
So happy for you to finally get a 351 Cleveland. Can't wait to see what y'all do with it. I rode in a Pantera back in 84/85 and will never forget it. One of my favorite dream Ford's.
So cool
Too bad you didn't get any transaxles with this haul.
They have 302 Cleveland’s in Australia. It’s pretty cool. First 351 Cleveland I ever owned was swapped into an 84 short bed regular cab 2X4 Ranger when I was 17. 😁 I had so much fun blowing tires off in that truck, but it wasn’t practical at all and I had to adult unfortunately🙄 so I sold it.
i live near where they used to make the ranger back in the day
Yeah we had both 302C and 351C. We built them locally and i believe the heads were different for better flow including 3V heads
The 302 Cleveland in Australia was built off the 351 just with a 3inch stroked crank and different rods
They typically had 2v heads on them and the closed chamber heads
AWE.........SOME!!!!!!!! So great to see you got your hands on the REAL DEAL BABY!!!! My brother had a 351 C when he was younger in the mid 1980's that was in a rusty Mach1. After that I never ran into another person with one. Always Windsor only. Excited to see what you're going to do with them!
That’s awesome. Thank you
What will you put it in?
From what I can see, the D0AE (1970) casting is the best and strongest blocks available. They were higher in Nickel and Chromium content. You have about $6500-8000 worth of parts there. Depending what you paid, no doubt the good Lord blessed the family on this score! Cleveland motors present special challenges, but are not interchangeable with the Winsor Family of engines. They are related to the 400 small blocks as well as the 351M/400M engines as well. Y’all scored.
351 mother load.... SWEET!!!!! I had a 72 4 door Torino with a 351 cleveland paid $600 back in the late 70's. Bought it California and drove it back to Michigan where I live, still wish I had it!!!! it was a very nice sleeper of a dude car....
I have a 351 Cleveland in my 1942 Jailbar hotrod. The cleveland is a great platform & we certainly have plenty of them in Australia. I'm with you, build the 4Bolt with the Closed Chamber heads & that single plane with a huge solid flat tappet & rev it to the moon! Also, check the cranks for casting marks 4MA or 4MA-B. Both are high nickel with the 4MA-B have slightly more. Mind you, you'll never break a cast cleveland crank anyway!
Great haul...looks like a great score. Market place pays off now and again...so happy you got your 351 C blocks and parts. Be great to see a build from start to finish. Appreciate you sharing your amazing adventure with us.😎👨🔧😴🚙😇🙏
I really wish I had a dad growing up to teach me all the stuff about cars that Josh is teaching his kids. Honestly Ralfie and WaWa prob know more than than me and I’m in my 30s. Keep teaching them all you can Josh, it will pay off in the long run.
My dad had a LTD back in the day. It was powder blue and we spray painted black. He and my sister were out on Tennessee back roads and they jumped a hill. And the battery hit the frame and shorted everything out.
Oh wow
Josh you truly hit the jackpot! Very happy for you. Good things come to those who wait, especially when they're a great as you and your wonderful family are.
Thank you
I put a 351 Cleveland in my 1964 Falcon. It fit !! Drove it for 3 years!! Jerry in Buckeye Az
What a wonderful score 👏 Cleveland heads and 2 blocks and a flood of extra parts, what you decide you can't or don't want to use you can trade for or sell 😀 to 💰 get what you want and need. You are truly loving it ❤️
That’s true thank you
Luck was on your side seeing that market place ad! Great hoard of organized parts and rare stuff! So cool! Congratulations!
For sure
Sleeperdude, it would be really interesting to disseminate the serial codes on those blocks 4 strange designations. Also, my notification button was wiped and I missed this video drop by a day. I've heard of this happening, but this is the first time for me. Cheers!
Dang Bro.. You Scored BIG !! Love It !!
That's a great score! I love my Cleveland. Josh, I use the Australian 2V 302 Cleveland closed chamber heads with 2.19 and 1.71 valves.
Nice haul! You were so excited (understandable) you forgot to tell Marge about the DG's!
Seen this deal on marketplace over an hr from me 😂 got one rlly good deal , put in one of the cars u been wanting to build so much
👍👍👍
Josh, Ford Australia used the 351 Cleveland V8 from 1971 to 1981.
SCORE!! Man that was a treasure trove of Ford parts. Those 4v heads are worth bucks.
Welcome to the bare minimum amount of parts you need around when working with Cleveland motors 😂
Build yourself a Cleveland headed Windsor or you could come up with a boss motor that would be a good build for the channel. I built one years ago using D1 AE,J Block parts.
I helped my stepdad rebuild his 351 Cleveland for his 73 Mach 1. We did it back in the early 90s and that was a memory I could never forget. We will enjoy watching y’all build these. Maybe you will run across a late 60s Mach 1 and pick it up!
He was organized for sure, the antithesis of Josh in that regards. Great find.
I too am a cleveland guy , I have the same valve covers , polished . also note , those heads bolt on any 302 , with a special intake , the winsor family has water in the intake , the cleveland does not. I have been building a Mustang II , pro street , that tells how long ago I started, lol. And have a collection of parts too. If / when you bend a push rod bad enough that the lifter will come out of the hole , you will have zero oil pressure , that oil restrictor kit will fix that . Great motors , the best content , please keep it up. if you could sell granny phone sniff's, LOL
my 65 mustang has a mexican block 302 - main bearing caps are huge, 4V vintage Holley intake & carb... sadly it is in the barn cos im an old fart
Great find on the old 351 stuff. Wish you and the family the best, love the content.
Man I love old Ford V8s, I can't wait to see you guys build this up!
Is Christmas all over again 😅
Mid-week Sleeperdude video…excellent, helps with the withdraw!! Looks like you scored big with that market place find. Thanks for the video and can’t wait for the next.
Josh, you need to go shopping by yourself more often! Awesome score!
Maybe so
That would make a good burnout engine. Wide open throttle is what those 4V heads want.
You hit a gold mine. Good deal.
All I can say is WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. You are very deserving of this. I am so glad that you got there first. Now time to make a complete build.
Build up a Motor for Ralphie's F Truck. ???
Maybe so
GOOD LORD, WHAT A FORD !! 😊 revstoration 🤠😁✌✌
yall are the Best ;} coming from Iuks MS....
it's the disparaging remarks about your wife.....
I have that excat same motor since the late 80's D1AE 4 bolt mains and 40 thou original! Welcome to the club.
Awesome
@@sleeperdude2690 Awsome for you brother! You have a ton of Narly 351c parts! Mine came with a C6 and the motor and trany came from a 1971 Police interceptor that was wrecked in early 1972 and the police man that wrecked it bought it and stored with thoughts of restoring it one day, but sadly he passed away before that happened and we bought that car from his widow and my buddy took the suspension and stuffed that along with 406 tri power in his 67 falcon and i kept the engine and c6. I think about stuffing in my 69 XR7.... Anywho my newest bucket list item is to hopefully some day meet you in person and total dream to twist some wrenchs with you and your totaly awsome Family!! P/S love the merch!
Looks like Christmas and your birthday all came at the same time.😊
Great score, i had a set of those 4v heads on my 81 T bird! It was a rocket
Omg! Omg! Omg!! U got 2 Clevland motors ...I have never even seen one in person..I've had 2 Windsors but holy moly u hit the lottery...all that NOS comp cam and lunati and all those roller rockers and coils..all stuff from the 70s so u know the quality is top notch...I could just sit and look at all those old packages and boxes with the vintage company logos...I can't believe Ralphie doesn't remember the Pantera..what s cool car..u hit it big today Sir!!!
Josh you hit Jackpot ! Josh & Tosh I had 71 Mustang Mach 1 I my Dad help me with refreshing 351 Cleveland he work at Ford . I was big fan that engine. You have great parts . That close Chamber 4 v is bad !! Your idea is killer about falcon . See Y'all
Looking forward to see what you put these in. Love your videos.
Welcome to the club , remember they not only like the rpm(we turned our race engine to 7900) they like a lot of gear(4..56-5.14). the v stands for venturi
And regardless of the weather, the sun shines on the 5 of you, how cool.
I think I told you on one of your other show's that I owned a 1972 Ford Ranchero 351 Cleveland 4 barrel dual exhaust. Awesome engine and powerful as well. And I owned a 1975 Ford Cougar 351 Windsor 4 barrel single exhaust . It was also very cool car and awesome as well.!
Awesome
What You have To Do To a Chevy For All That:
348 crank in a 454 block for compression from the piston diameter, wide spacing between cylinders for cooling, shorter stroke for RPM, and canted valves for Hemi-like performance!
WOW!! Awesome haul. I'm seriously jealous.
You're going to go to bed. And Wawa will go out there and put one of those engines together.. good morning Dad..
Plenty of go fast parts for clevos in Australia.
We used them from 1970 to 1983 in the F100 and falcon.
They were cast at the Ford Geelong foundry. Next to the oil pressure switch they had GF cast into the block not CF.
I used to have about 4 Cleveland's,2 modified,and several Windsor's,and i actually had a Cleveland in a gen2 mustang,it was a beast!But i would not build anything till i had those blocks and heads fluxed!And i would not build it with used parts,there to hard to find just to blow it up,Oh and that 2 bolt main block,make all the donkey's you gonna need😊
That's a heck of haul, congratulations on that deal.
New harts for the dead cars and it while bee very fun to watch more car running with this motors .
I had 77 Ford truck with a 302 in it I blew it up racing then put a 351 Cleveland in it and it would peg before it hit passing gear just keep going
So cool
Can’t wait to watch you guys build these!
Congrats sir those Cleveland’s are great motors especially the 4V heads and super hard to find
That econoline is crying for one of those 351's
2 door Fairmont 351 4 speed possy slot wheels .paint ask fans what color .keep teaching .
Sounds great
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Josh, and family, are definitely blessed. 🙏
For sure
The big port heads you need a big cam and turn high RPMs that what the 4V heads was made for if you can fine some heads with the raiised exhaust port plates you can make big horse power you need to read Bob Glidden story on the heads
Yeah that’s what I’ve heard. I definitely need to read that
Every time i see a roundabout, i have to say "Look kids, it's Big Ben". Don't judge me.
🤣🤣🤣
Have a neighbor with a Panera with a blown motor.
I noticed the crankshafts were laying on their side that's not a good idea. You should always store crankshaft standing up and secured so it doesn't fall over. The weight of a crank laying on its side can actually cause it to bend slightly
Probably because of riding in the truck. At the end of the video, I think they were upright ✌
Enjoyed the picture show 😊
Thank you
Great score! Great family ❤ great video!
That 351 Cleveland needs going to a Fairmont wagon. And make one incredible street machine
Absolutely