@@SwapBlogRU I love the way that you change your voice to be like women or other guys! You're great fella! My grandfather was from Romania, I know that is not Russia, but is near! Greetings from Florianopolis, Brazil!
steam engines have adjustable valve timing. the longer the intake valve is opened the more torque you get and more steam is needed. A steam engine operator would reduce the open time when the train is at speed and increase it when the force is needed to accelerate or go up hill. my advice, adjust the lobes on the cam shaft. the intake lobe should open the valve as soon as the piston crosses the top dead center and close it when it get's close to the bottom the exhaust should open as soon as the piston crosses the bottom dead center and stay open for as long as possible this should provide the maximum torque and given enough steam should move from first gear without using the clutch
correct, the amount of energy density in petrol is quite high compared to batteries or compressed air tanks. Even hydrogen will need a massive container at very high pressure to get any real distance in a car.
@@kruleworld Actually what it shows is how inefficient "external combustion" is, not what the density of the fuel is. Compressed air in this case isn't a fuel just as steam isn't a fuel. Coal or other burned substance is the fuel in a steam engine and electricity in the form of an air compressor was the fuel here. You're better off using the fuel directly (internally). Which is why we don't use steam engines anymore.
@@xNYCMarc it doesnt show how inneficient they are...you think they are inneficient and mathematically they are inneficient but this experiment doesnt show that! simply because the engine is not burning any fuel mister tesla fanboy
There is a guy who made his car to run on compressed air, he has the air leaving the first cylinder is fed to the second cylinder, then to the third and forth. this gave him a lot more run time per tank of air and each cylinder was adding power to the system. i think he was getting 15 minutes of run time at 20 mph.
By feeding the exhaust from one into the next cylinder , they are capturing , recycling the air. This is why the other commenter suggested 10-12 cylinders, but you're only displacing one cylinder per rev.
@@paulwoodman5131 that increases the starting pressure in the next cylinder, meaning less air to reach working pressure. Steam plants do something similar by condensing the exhaust steam to just below boiling and feeding it back to the boiler.
So what? gauge should still show fluctuations at least (hope it had enough resolution though) I think they have leakage somewhere (not talking about blow-by) (￣へ￣)
The valves would be open for half as long as they usually are. I don't think they would get enough air through to produce sufficient power. Kinda like how it was being bottlenecked by the original smaller hose.
@@ojmbvids that's what I was thinking. For sure making it rotating twice as fast will open it at the correct rate as wel, but as it is moving twice as fast, the opening time is only half the normal time. This problem doesn't exists with the double profile. More opening time is more torque, and in the end more power.
There will stil be a dead spot from 180° on the camshaft So i think it will only open when the piston is on the upper half of the cilinder Piston down -> 1/2 valve closed 1/2-> up : exhaust Up -> 1/2 : intake 1/2 -> down : valve closed (You lose 1/2 of the piston displacement/power) For a single cilinder When with dubble lobes It is Piston down -> up : exhaust open Piston up -> down : intake open And it works with multiple cilinders
You are shooting steam into all cylinders simultaneously. The intake valves are only designed to hold pressure from the piston side. The air pressure from the tank is pushing the valves open and killing your power. 12 volt Pop valves in the spark plug holes is way better. This also allows you to adjust the timing and duration of the power stroke. Grind the intake lobes off the cam and leave the exhaust as is. Use cam position sensors as a power source for the pop valves. As the magnets in the balancer spin past the cam sensors they will send a shot of 12volt to the corresponding valve and open it. No battery needed. Simple and will develop significantly more power than pressurizing the intake and trying to make the valves work with pressure from the wrong side. You guys rock! Great entertainment keep up the good work!
Something I dont know if youve looked at yet ? about 40 years ago , Volvo experimented with a gas expansion engine . It ran on something similar to dry cleaning fluid . The fluid was in the crank case as well . you injected it cold . an MSD ignition fired it , the fluid fired , and rapidly expanded , pushing the piston down . After the fluid cooled , it was re-pumped into the combustion chambers and re-used . The whole Idea was an engine that didnt use any fuel . sounds crazy , but I saw a video of it running , now I cant find any trace of it . I know the biggest problem they had was keeping the gas and fluid from escaping out of the crankshaft and valve guide seals . For a project like that , your the man . If you were serious , Id even come over from Canada , and help you with it .
I enjoy your videos guys, keep up the good work! Using the same size crankshaft pulley on the camshaft wouldve also given you a camshaft that would open as twice as frequent as standard 👍
If you are going to run the engine on steam, just let in the steam for a few degrees. Steam behaves quite different than compressed air, IT EXPANDS EVEN AFTER THE INTAKE VALVE IS CLOSED. I have some experience with steam engines, have one myselfe. So if you make the intake valve open like 0 to 15 degree after TDC, and let the exhaust be open from 170-360 it should be alot more effective. Good luck! PS, a steam engine will not be powerful on compressed air, as I wrote, the steam expands during the power stroke. I really hope you will read my comment, and start working on the camshaft with the angle- grinder. Then PS again, if you change the timing sprocket on the camshaft to one the same size as the one on the flywheel, it might be easier, if not, you need dual lobes on the camshaft. :) :) Thank you for posting videos, a great channel! Regards from Norway.
Congratulations, nice how you worked out the cam needed double lobes, if the cam rotated at crankshaft speed, you would only need one lobe for each cam but as it rotates at half engine speed that is why yo need a double lobe. I built a miniature six cylinder engine designed to run on gasoline but decided to run it on compressed air, as my cam was running at half engine speed, I had to do what you did and make a double lobed camshaft so that air could be admitted into the cylinders at every top dead center. The six cylinder four stroke engine has two pistons coming up together every 120 degrees so my engine really became a "three cylinder big bang engine" I made all the cam blanks (12) in one go on a lathe with special jig with a degree plate to be able to gradually develop the cam shape by shaving material off with a 10 mm end mill running in the chuck of the lathe and rotating the blanks four degrees and then shaving more metal off. the whole assembly was moved closer to the end mill for each cut to be carried out and generate the cam profile. Well done guys,cheers from the UK.
When they welded the cam I thought Back to my grandfather making an air compressor from an old mower. He welded onto the cam to make two intake strokes, and grinded off the exhaust lobes. The best thing was that it worked. It still works today because we rebuilt the engine. Because the engine has good displacement, it’s a great compressor to run air tools.
The flatplane crankshaft makes it possible that the engine could stall with 2 pistons in TDC and 2 pistons in BDC. An engine with a crossplane crankshaft (with minimum of 3 cylinders) would perform smoother and get rid of the possible stalling. A classic steam locomotive has 2 double acting cylinders which are 90 degrees apart, so a steam locomotive has 4 power strokes per a revolution of the driving wheels.
Put the pressure in through the spark plug holes and use intake and exhaust valves as exhausts. Remove all the manifolds and have them exhausting into the engine bay with modified camshaft lobes.
If their steam setup operates at a high enough pressure they could make it work though. Would have to be WAY high pressure like well over 500 psi to force the steam in fast enough tho. Probably more
You should shorten the valve open time by removing some of the lobe flank, it will prevent valve overlap where a lot of air is probably getting wasted. Amazing results. I saw a guy make an air compressor from an IC engine the same way, it worked surprisingly well.
the engine it self is basically a air pump, what about changing the spark plugs for nipples with some hoses with one way valve and run across the cylinders that are on the downstroke ? maybe you can get some kind of cykle then?
2-stroke engines can and are capable of using steam and/or compressed air. Air/steam start diesels engines are a thing. Especially the very BIG engines of old factories which are stationary engines.
Open Minded Air Head Diesel engines that are started with air or steam use a flywheel engagement starter motor that runs off of compressed air or steam.
@@louisturner8842 Some big diesels start by using an additional valve that admits compressed air directly to the cylinders, the air pushes the pistons and starts the engine
Three is like a few problem here. Firstly the air is forced in the direction of the valve spring. Some air is probably leaking right throw. Secondly. It loses way to much volume. They could make it into a double expansion motor if they used the air out of on cylinder end feed it in to two other, them just pinned the valves down on the 4th cylinder
I thought of making a steam engine from a strimmer engine which is 2 stroke.I didn't think it would be possible to make a 4 stroke but you have thought past that👍well done fellas.
Ahh man. You're doing it the hard way. You need to start with a Trabant. Two stroke engine. With side ports. Separate Jugs instead of monoblock. You inject the compressed air/steam through the the spark plug hole. You need to figure out a way to seal off the intake port and then it's just a matter of valve timing through the spark plug hole. Some conversions use a simple punch valve that opens when the piston strikes it. That's got some obvious wear problems. I would go with solenoid valves and a micro controller for compressed air. Steam is going to require something more robust. The key though is in a two stroke, the exhaust doesn't need any modification at all. It just lets the steam out when the piston reaches the bottom of the stroke just like a steam engine. A good place to start for your steam injector might be to try retrofitting a TPI fuel injection system. Solenoid valves are built right in and just need to be switched on and off. Not sure they can handle steam but think of the fun finding out. Also oiling is going to be an issue. So yeah, that's where I would start. A Trabant, a 2 cycle engine. Block up the intakes and figure out how you inject your steam to the cylinder. Steam punk car. I could probably make it work in about a month with a steady supply of cheap beer.
hi, you can swap gear wheel on the crankshaft - put on same size as on camshaft. So cam shaft will have same RPM as crankshaft, and you don't need to weld on crankshaft
It's strange that no-one in the comments has mentioned the elephant in the room - valve overlap. All modern IC engines use the exhaust gas outrush to scavenge the cylinder and assist in drawing in more fresh mixture. Sure they modded the cam to open on every stroke, but they didn't get rid of the overlap, so the some of the incoming compressed air will be going straight out of the exhaust for a short time each stroke. Probably why it wasn't long until all the air was used up.
kais Yaya Give it at least 10 years. Guaranteed. Mini reactor powered car! Just need 10tons of lead and radiation suits. Geiger counter mounted in the dash. Rad! I mean they could run this car on a mini reactor. Heat water... interesting
Plus a greater capacity. You could route excess pressure to the jets in the hot tub car. Not to mention a heating unit. Pull a trailer and you have many more options.
I actually tried this on my lawnmower once. I out an air chuck it screws perfectly in the sparkplug hole, then I attached the air hose even for one burst it spun the engine a few dozen times at least. so I would try this on a small engine using the spark plugs
Like the way everyone is giving advice on how to make this thing better lots of fun you guys we love this place can you tell we want to have fun with you
If you direct the exhaust pipe right in to the air tank again you have invented car without the need for fuel! We just saved the world! Now Greta must be so happy with us! 💪💪💪💪👍😉
We used to just spend the camshaft twice as fast by changing the gear ratio of course and it worked fine didn't let the world nothing but one sprocket or two
The problem is not the air pressure, it's the volume of air that you have underestimated! Have you ever noticed how steam engines have large diameter steam pipes? And a colossal sized boiler? All for a relatively low power output. That's because you have to admit a lot steam into the cylinder, at a decent pressure, with a big reserve volume behind it. In this engine, as you have it configured, you're trying to pressurise two cylinders at the same time. There just is not a big enough volume of air to do that. Remember also, the smaller the diameter of the cylinder, the greater the pressure you need to move the piston. What's the output pressure of your compressor? - About 10 to 15 bar? A modern steam engine's boiler would be at least double that, so, in backyard mechanics, you need to double the pressure, quadruple the volume, and have an almost unlimited reserve of air, to make it work. How about getting hold of a mobile compressor of the type used by road construction workers (rock drills, jack-hammers and the like)? They at least can sustain a large volume and pressure. Probably not enough to the make the car a viable proposition, but maybe enough to prove the concept? Then also, at least, if the car has the capability to tow a trailer, you could tow the compressor behind the car, and go for a drive - assuming the engine can develop enough power to tow the compressor!
The cam shaft runs at 1/2 the crank speed. If you want it to open twice as much, change it to a 1/1. Also, the valves aren't made to hold back much intake pressure. When the piston is trying to come back up, air is pushing past the valve.
ever since I saw that tiny hose, I immediately thought there's no way it will work with that flimsy air volume. You need a lot of volume and a serious compressor that can hold the pressure at that volume. Also you should think about catching the exhaust steam and condense it then recirculate it back into the cauldron, since it will still be hot so you can optimize the power (once you actually put it on steam)
Use an electric air pump like a nitro button to add speed and power to the car. I also thought you would run the crank engine in reverse from the start and then just use the reverse gear to drive forward. Actually that is a good video on it's own to reverse the direction of the engine in a car and then drive it around lol!
yes cam shaft just need to be converted so vavles open 2/4 not 1/4 strokes ALSO use exhaust pressure and feed it back into carbi manifold - should help to sustain pressure. you could use an external hydrylic type pistion on motor attached to outside wheel to force extra air into carbi manifols as like a fooy pump
You need the inlet valve to close when the piston is only 1/2 way down the cylinder to allow the compressed air to expand. It will make it a lot more efficient.
Cool man! Taking a pre-existing ic motor with 4 cylinders, pressure lubrication, along with a clutch and what? 3-4 gears? I'm not in a position to talk but I would recommend a steam generator in the trunk or even right under the hood and have the water tank in the back that injects water into the steam generator which is basically an insulated coil wrapped around some heat source and connect a proper throttle and tach. That motor is originally what? 50 horses? Less on steam but an unbelievable amount of torque so you could not only use the gears to accelerate faster but also leave it in the highest gear and not only still have a lot of torque but use up a lot less steam per mile the car is driven.
A friend of mine did this with a Studebaker but he used a Stanley Steamer engine. His boiler was a pancake boiler he fabricated from 1/2 inch black iron pipe he used a fire eye for flame detection it was very driveable he burnt waste oil in it.
I guess I wonder about two things. 1. Why not try cam as it was first. 2. Why not install a decompression valve to lower compression. Maybe go from 9:1 to 4:1 compression. You no longer need to compress for explosion. All and all great video, and hope the bugs get worked out.
You don't even need radiator for it, because steam cannot got very hot like fire. Remove water pump will have less friction too. But i thought you should push compressed air in the holes of sparkplugs (simulate explosion part), let intake valves closed and timing the exhaust valves in twice speed open/close. And add electronic air/gas valves with mechanic driven 4-way switch to open/close each valve. Complex idea indeed, but it might work too.
For every turn you use as much air as the displacement of the engine. That must be kept in mind when making a bioiler to avoid issues with pressure drops.
I recommend building a flash boiler because you are going to need a lot of steam pressure for that engine to remotely work. Flash boilers are easy to make, you just need a container with lots of tubes in a spiral inside of it, as the water is forced into the bottom the heat by fire or whatever inside of the container creates steam which then travels upwards the spiral, the more it travels the hotter it gets causing super heated steam to be generated, this is steam several times the pressure of normal steam. Almost all Steam engines developed in this area however you are going to need most of the back on that car for the boiler alone. Suggest using a lot of fire insulation and a pressure valve is necessary, even if flash boilers are safer than normal boilers they can still rupture from over pressure therefore a pressure release valve is necessary safety.
Cut and reweld the cam lobes...you can at least clock the opening/closing to maximize your air use. Second, you would need individual air pipes to each cylinder, with switches/solenoids in the distributor to turn the air on and off at each top dead center.
You really need to offset the two remaining cylinders 90° so that it can start on its own from any position. But if you ever want to run on actual steam, you need smaller cylinders at higher pressure. Water will not boil fast enough to feed large, low pressure cylinders like that. You also want to close the intake valve way before the piston reaches the end of the power stroke. Taking in all the pressure near the end is wasteful. Consider cutting the intake cams in half so that the trailing half of the cam is missing. The valves should slam shut at about half of the stroke. (It would be more efficient to close even sooner, but difficult to do with just a simple welded camshaft.) It would be great if two of the four intakes could be disabled on demand to reduce steam use while cruising.
Put a turbo jet engine on it so the exhaust feeds the pressure side with the turbo blowing straight into the engine with fuel so it makes better compression
The air pressure will also be pushing the intake valve open i would be putting a stronger intake spring on the valves it should use significantly less air
Think you Mr Russian I always wanted a steam powered mini bike because I am sick of expensive and or crappy gasoline and with steam all you need is water, oil and some rubbish from the correct preferably pine needles.
Cut the crank shaft in two to make the four pistons 90 degrees apart and adjust the cams accordingly, doubt it'll continue turning under load otherwise, it'll want to stay at bottom-dead-center without torque from another cylinder to upset the balance.
Suggestion- You guys should try to replace the engine of a Lada with a generator or go-kart engine. Hook the engine to the manual transmission and see what kind of driving you can do with it!
I Hope the *translator* sees this comment.
*I love your voice and you are doing a great job*
Hi. Very glad to hear that!
@@SwapBlogRU your are part of this channel man, your girl voice are great :d
@@SwapBlogRU I love the way that you change your voice to be like women or other guys! You're great fella! My grandfather was from Romania, I know that is not Russia, but is near! Greetings from Florianopolis, Brazil!
@Pandacat 666 There are a couple videos with him when they were traveling in Europe if I'm not mistaken.
@@jessesteinbar I actually used to go to school with a dude from Romania (when I lived in the States), named Sebastian Stan.
steam engines have adjustable valve timing. the longer the intake valve is opened the more torque you get and more steam is needed. A steam engine operator would reduce the open time when the train is at speed and increase it when the force is needed to accelerate or go up hill.
my advice, adjust the lobes on the cam shaft.
the intake lobe should open the valve as soon as the piston crosses the top dead center and close it when it get's close to the bottom
the exhaust should open as soon as the piston crosses the bottom dead center and stay open for as long as possible
this should provide the maximum torque and given enough steam should move from first gear without using the clutch
yes this
I didn't know this is how they do it on steam engines but this was my exact thought regarding tdc and valve duration.
you may want to post this on the original russian video
Basically vtec
@@NoorquackerInd vtec is term for Honda shits, it called variable timing
You guys are something else. Never fail to entertain.
amazing please continue the innsanity. Garage 54 the best... Much love from South Afrika
Could you imagine hearing steam train chugging then this comes around the corner with steam pouring out the exhaust.
oil Toast
I’ve seen recently a 6x6 steam powered Jeep Wrangle. The boiler is a the back and why it has tandem rear axels.
If it wasn't for the electric starter Steam cars would have won the car war.
Impressive engineering, a big effort for a few engine revolutions, this makes you think how impressive the power of fuel is.
correct, the amount of energy density in petrol is quite high compared to batteries or compressed air tanks. Even hydrogen will need a massive container at very high pressure to get any real distance in a car.
@@kruleworld Actually what it shows is how inefficient "external combustion" is, not what the density of the fuel is. Compressed air in this case isn't a fuel just as steam isn't a fuel. Coal or other burned substance is the fuel in a steam engine and electricity in the form of an air compressor was the fuel here. You're better off using the fuel directly (internally). Which is why we don't use steam engines anymore.
@@xNYCMarc it doesnt show how inneficient they are...you think they are inneficient and mathematically they are inneficient but this experiment doesnt show that! simply because the engine is not burning any fuel mister tesla fanboy
There is a guy who made his car to run on compressed air, he has the air leaving the first cylinder is fed to the second cylinder, then to the third and forth. this gave him a lot more run time per tank of air and each cylinder was adding power to the system. i think he was getting 15 minutes of run time at 20 mph.
I'm wondering if the "exhaust" could be reclaimed.
So 5 miles or 8.5 km at bicycle riding speed.
By feeding the exhaust from one into the next cylinder , they are capturing , recycling the air. This is why the other commenter suggested 10-12 cylinders, but you're only displacing one cylinder per rev.
@@paulwoodman5131 that increases the starting pressure in the next cylinder, meaning less air to reach working pressure.
Steam plants do something similar by condensing the exhaust steam to just below boiling and feeding it back to the boiler.
@@forestdenizen6497 ah, interesting, I don't know steam systems. These guys will figure it out.
Fantastic content. RUclips has become a sea of garbage and its great to see that people are still making gold like this.
Too right!!
7:17 there is no compression stroke, that's normal. I love this project, by the way, nice idea guys !
So what? gauge should still show fluctuations at least (hope it had enough resolution though)
I think they have leakage somewhere (not talking about blow-by)
(￣へ￣)
These fellows give trial-and-error a good name !
They are exercising their brain and imagination,and they are learning something. Inspiring.
Take the added lobes off and just make the cam shaft turn at the same speed as the crank shaft,instead of half speed as designed,simpler.
I was gonna say this but I knew someone beat me to it.
plus grind the cam so less valves will open
The valves would be open for half as long as they usually are. I don't think they would get enough air through to produce sufficient power. Kinda like how it was being bottlenecked by the original smaller hose.
@@ojmbvids that's what I was thinking. For sure making it rotating twice as fast will open it at the correct rate as wel, but as it is moving twice as fast, the opening time is only half the normal time. This problem doesn't exists with the double profile. More opening time is more torque, and in the end more power.
There will stil be a dead spot from 180° on the camshaft
So i think it will only open when the piston is on the upper half of the cilinder
Piston down -> 1/2 valve closed
1/2-> up : exhaust
Up -> 1/2 : intake
1/2 -> down : valve closed
(You lose 1/2 of the piston displacement/power)
For a single cilinder
When with dubble lobes
It is
Piston down -> up : exhaust open
Piston up -> down : intake open
And it works with multiple cilinders
You need to ad a steam whistle.
Or an air-powered truck horn!
I like your “manual “Compression gauge👍🏼👍🏼old school 😎
You are shooting steam into all cylinders simultaneously. The intake valves are only designed to hold pressure from the piston side. The air pressure from the tank is pushing the valves open and killing your power. 12 volt Pop valves in the spark plug holes is way better. This also allows you to adjust the timing and duration of the power stroke. Grind the intake lobes off the cam and leave the exhaust as is. Use cam position sensors as a power source for the pop valves. As the magnets in the balancer spin past the cam sensors they will send a shot of 12volt to the corresponding valve and open it. No battery needed. Simple and will develop significantly more power than pressurizing the intake and trying to make the valves work with pressure from the wrong side. You guys rock! Great entertainment keep up the good work!
Something I dont know if youve looked at yet ? about 40 years ago , Volvo experimented with a gas expansion engine . It ran on something similar to dry cleaning fluid . The fluid was in the crank case as well . you injected it cold . an MSD ignition fired it , the fluid fired , and rapidly expanded , pushing the piston down . After the fluid cooled , it was re-pumped into the combustion chambers and re-used . The whole Idea was an engine that didnt use any fuel . sounds crazy , but I saw a video of it running , now I cant find any trace of it . I know the biggest problem they had was keeping the gas and fluid from escaping out of the crankshaft and valve guide seals . For a project like that , your the man . If you were serious , Id even come over from Canada , and help you with it .
Greetings from Montreal!
I enjoy your videos guys, keep up the good work! Using the same size crankshaft pulley on the camshaft wouldve also given you a camshaft that would open as twice as frequent as standard 👍
I love this team, man. Having fun and learning in the process. Keep having fun, you guys! In the name of science!
If you are going to run the engine on steam, just let in the steam for a few degrees. Steam behaves quite different than compressed air, IT EXPANDS EVEN AFTER THE INTAKE VALVE IS CLOSED. I have some experience with steam engines, have one myselfe. So if you make the intake valve open like 0 to 15 degree after TDC, and let the exhaust be open from 170-360 it should be alot more effective. Good luck! PS, a steam engine will not be powerful on compressed air, as I wrote, the steam expands during the power stroke. I really hope you will read my comment, and start working on the camshaft with the angle- grinder. Then PS again, if you change the timing sprocket on the camshaft to one the same size as the one on the flywheel, it might be easier, if not, you need dual lobes on the camshaft. :) :) Thank you for posting videos, a great channel! Regards from Norway.
I think it took so much pressure because of the flat plain crank. I believe a cross plain engine may run on lower air pressure.
at the very least it will have more consistent power delivery
omg I love these experiments - especially thanks for doing them on another continent, though, dodgy pressure vessels scare the hell out of me! 😅
i thought man that kid must trust his welds on a rusty ass pressure vessel..
Especially mounted off centre on a meter length of small pipe O.o I'm looking ford to the high pressure steam...
Congratulations, nice how you worked out the cam needed double lobes, if the cam rotated at crankshaft speed, you would only need one lobe for each cam but as it rotates at half engine speed that is why yo need a double lobe.
I built a miniature six cylinder engine designed to run on gasoline but decided to run it on compressed air, as my cam was running at half engine speed, I had to do what you did and make a double lobed camshaft so that air could be admitted into the cylinders at every top dead center.
The six cylinder four stroke engine has two pistons coming up together every 120 degrees so my engine really became a "three cylinder big bang engine"
I made all the cam blanks (12) in one go on a lathe with special jig with a degree plate to be able to gradually develop the cam shape by shaving material off with a 10 mm end mill running in the chuck of the lathe and rotating the blanks four degrees and then shaving more metal off. the whole assembly was moved closer to the end mill for each cut to be carried out and generate the cam profile.
Well done guys,cheers from the UK.
Gives you a better appreciation for just how much steam volume those old steam locomotives generate to move a mile of train cars.
When they welded the cam I thought Back to my grandfather making an air compressor from an old mower. He welded onto the cam to make two intake strokes, and grinded off the exhaust lobes. The best thing was that it worked. It still works today because we rebuilt the engine. Because the engine has good displacement, it’s a great compressor to run air tools.
Guy nearly looses hand....
Vlad: Maybe the flywheel is too light
Put a turbo engine at the back of the car and let the high compression turbo feed the engine at the front.
that sounds awesome LOL
The flatplane crankshaft makes it possible that the engine could stall with 2 pistons in TDC and 2 pistons in BDC.
An engine with a crossplane crankshaft (with minimum of 3 cylinders) would perform smoother and get rid of the possible stalling.
A classic steam locomotive has 2 double acting cylinders which are 90 degrees apart, so a steam locomotive has 4 power strokes per a revolution of the driving wheels.
Put the pressure in through the spark plug holes and use intake and exhaust valves as exhausts. Remove all the manifolds and have them exhausting into the engine bay with modified camshaft lobes.
Interesting idea but wouldn't the spark plug holes be too small to fill up the stroke volume at a decent RPM?
@@naushad911 yes you are right, that was one thought I had, unless they could be enlarged without interfering with the valves.
If their steam setup operates at a high enough pressure they could make it work though. Would have to be WAY high pressure like well over 500 psi to force the steam in fast enough tho. Probably more
would need some sort of rotary air distributor to put air sequentially and in time with the engine....
@@MrHBSoftware you're right. I hadn't thought of that.
You should shorten the valve open time by removing some of the lobe flank, it will prevent valve overlap where a lot of air is probably getting wasted.
Amazing results. I saw a guy make an air compressor from an IC engine the same way, it worked surprisingly well.
I am amazed what you are able to do. You have a very imaginative mind. Good day too.
Awesome! This is something I've actually been really curious about since high school, but never had the resources to test it
You guys are the best!!! Love the content from Canada 🇨🇦
It’s crazy stuff like this is why I subscribed as soon as I saw this channel.
That cam modification was ingenious!
Cant wait till they build a boiler and use real steam. These guys are always doing some crazy stuff.
the engine it self is basically a air pump, what about changing the spark plugs for nipples with some hoses with one way valve and run across the cylinders that are on the downstroke ? maybe you can get some kind of cykle then?
Cheers from arctic circle my friend love your content always some new crazy shit 👍
Love it when you get excited, Vlad!
I think you need an engine with less pistons. Like a 2 piston or even a single piston engine
Stefan Batrinache I think they need an engine with more pistons. Like 10 or 12! :D
2-stroke engines can and are capable of using steam and/or compressed air. Air/steam start diesels engines are a thing.
Especially the very BIG engines of old factories which are stationary engines.
Open Minded Air Head Diesel engines that are started with air or steam use a flywheel engagement starter motor that runs off of compressed air or steam.
@@louisturner8842 - Yes most are but not all.
@@louisturner8842 Some big diesels start by using an additional valve that admits compressed air directly to the cylinders, the air pushes the pistons and starts the engine
Very cool can’t wait to see it finished and moving 👍🏻🔥🤘🏻
Three is like a few problem here.
Firstly the air is forced in the direction of the valve spring. Some air is probably leaking right throw.
Secondly. It loses way to much volume.
They could make it into a double expansion motor if they used the air out of on cylinder end feed it in to two other, them just pinned the valves down on the 4th cylinder
i love the spot for the timing on that engine.. you can actually get to the adjustment nut
I thought of making a steam engine from a strimmer engine which is 2 stroke.I didn't think it would be possible to make a 4 stroke but you have thought past that👍well done fellas.
So fun! For the cam, the easier solution would have been to change the gear ratio so the cam and crank spin 1:1 instead of 2:1
I can’t wait until the steam engine episode, but I will. Thank you.
Ahh man. You're doing it the hard way. You need to start with a Trabant. Two stroke engine. With side ports. Separate Jugs instead of monoblock. You inject the compressed air/steam through the the spark plug hole. You need to figure out a way to seal off the intake port and then it's just a matter of valve timing through the spark plug hole. Some conversions use a simple punch valve that opens when the piston strikes it. That's got some obvious wear problems. I would go with solenoid valves and a micro controller for compressed air. Steam is going to require something more robust. The key though is in a two stroke, the exhaust doesn't need any modification at all. It just lets the steam out when the piston reaches the bottom of the stroke just like a steam engine. A good place to start for your steam injector might be to try retrofitting a TPI fuel injection system. Solenoid valves are built right in and just need to be switched on and off. Not sure they can handle steam but think of the fun finding out. Also oiling is going to be an issue.
So yeah, that's where I would start. A Trabant, a 2 cycle engine. Block up the intakes and figure out how you inject your steam to the cylinder. Steam punk car. I could probably make it work in about a month with a steady supply of cheap beer.
congratulations you just doubled the power potential and made it kinda a two stroke .
"Ramming it into the intake manifold" I like your choice of words
When my friend had a similar idea we said he was crazy....you guys are not helping. Keep it up!
Good video👍🏻
I left a sugestion, convert a 4stroke engine into a 2stroke
I cant believe how good those new lobes came out!😱
hi, you can swap gear wheel on the crankshaft - put on same size as on camshaft. So cam shaft will have same RPM as crankshaft, and you don't need to weld on crankshaft
8:03 A scared Russian? Impossible
Reaper that was excitement lol
He wasn't scared as much as he was hurt, since the force transmitted through the wrench hit his hand against some part of the engine bay.
The yelling was meant to scare the engine. Silly
All the comments here are gold
ay blyat
It's strange that no-one in the comments has mentioned the elephant in the room - valve overlap. All modern IC engines use the exhaust gas outrush to scavenge the cylinder and assist in drawing in more fresh mixture. Sure they modded the cam to open on every stroke, but they didn't get rid of the overlap, so the some of the incoming compressed air will be going straight out of the exhaust for a short time each stroke. Probably why it wasn't long until all the air was used up.
still waiting for the electric car powered by an atomic battery, come on russia !
kais Yaya Give it at least 10 years. Guaranteed.
Mini reactor powered car! Just need 10tons of lead and radiation suits. Geiger counter mounted in the dash. Rad!
I mean they could run this car on a mini reactor. Heat water... interesting
P.s, we are both now on a list
Louis Turner, enjoy your new Chernobyl GT. I’ll take the bus.
So this sucker is nuclear???
Tritium mixed with solar panel material and phosphorescent material.
I think they should try a rotary engine Mazda
Rotary Lada
You need to put a diesel road compressor on a trailer and pull it
Plus a greater capacity.
You could route excess pressure to the jets in the hot tub car.
Not to mention a heating unit.
Pull a trailer and you have many more options.
Hola amigos, el futuro de la automoción está en vuestros experimentos, un lujo encontraros, un saludo.
I actually tried this on my lawnmower once. I out an air chuck it screws perfectly in the sparkplug hole, then I attached the air hose even for one burst it spun the engine a few dozen times at least. so I would try this on a small engine using the spark plugs
Like the way everyone is giving advice on how to make this thing better lots of fun you guys we love this place can you tell we want to have fun with you
Holy shit, that compressed air barrel just attached with this pipe... That's definitely Garage54 I'm watching :p
If you direct the exhaust pipe right in to the air tank again you have invented car without the need for fuel! We just saved the world! Now Greta must be so happy with us! 💪💪💪💪👍😉
We used to just spend the camshaft twice as fast by changing the gear ratio of course and it worked fine didn't let the world nothing but one sprocket or two
You guys are amazing at fabrication work
The problem is not the air pressure, it's the volume of air that you have underestimated! Have you ever noticed how steam engines have large diameter steam pipes? And a colossal sized boiler? All for a relatively low power output. That's because you have to admit a lot steam into the cylinder, at a decent pressure, with a big reserve volume behind it. In this engine, as you have it configured, you're trying to pressurise two cylinders at the same time. There just is not a big enough volume of air to do that. Remember also, the smaller the diameter of the cylinder, the greater the pressure you need to move the piston.
What's the output pressure of your compressor? - About 10 to 15 bar? A modern steam engine's boiler would be at least double that, so, in backyard mechanics, you need to double the pressure, quadruple the volume, and have an almost unlimited reserve of air, to make it work.
How about getting hold of a mobile compressor of the type used by road construction workers (rock drills, jack-hammers and the like)? They at least can sustain a large volume and pressure. Probably not enough to the make the car a viable proposition, but maybe enough to prove the concept? Then also, at least, if the car has the capability to tow a trailer, you could tow the compressor behind the car, and go for a drive - assuming the engine can develop enough power to tow the compressor!
I have done that to a 1985 volksvagen passat model, it couldnt run for long but it ran.
The cam shaft runs at 1/2 the crank speed. If you want it to open twice as much, change it to a 1/1.
Also, the valves aren't made to hold back much intake pressure. When the piston is trying to come back up, air is pushing past the valve.
ever since I saw that tiny hose, I immediately thought there's no way it will work with that flimsy air volume. You need a lot of volume and a serious compressor that can hold the pressure at that volume. Also you should think about catching the exhaust steam and condense it then recirculate it back into the cauldron, since it will still be hot so you can optimize the power (once you actually put it on steam)
Use an electric air pump like a nitro button to add speed and power to the car. I also thought you would run the crank engine in reverse from the start and then just use the reverse gear to drive forward.
Actually that is a good video on it's own to reverse the direction of the engine in a car and then drive it around lol!
You guys are off the planet ..!!!!!
Love it
yes cam shaft just need to be converted so vavles open 2/4 not 1/4 strokes
ALSO use exhaust pressure and feed it back into carbi manifold - should help to sustain pressure.
you could use an external hydrylic type pistion on motor attached to outside wheel to force extra air into carbi manifols as like a fooy pump
Thats sumet ya dont see every day lol...all ways love to fink n see what experiments garage54 comes up with next
You need the inlet valve to close when the piston is only 1/2 way down the cylinder to allow the compressed air to expand. It will make it a lot more efficient.
Cool man! Taking a pre-existing ic motor with 4 cylinders, pressure lubrication, along with a clutch and what? 3-4 gears? I'm not in a position to talk but I would recommend a steam generator in the trunk or even right under the hood and have the water tank in the back that injects water into the steam generator which is basically an insulated coil wrapped around some heat source and connect a proper throttle and tach. That motor is originally what? 50 horses? Less on steam but an unbelievable amount of torque so you could not only use the gears to accelerate faster but also leave it in the highest gear and not only still have a lot of torque but use up a lot less steam per mile the car is driven.
Amazing, so what’s the plan now? Attach a boiler and instead of air, have high pressure steam feeding it?
A friend of mine did this with a Studebaker but he used a Stanley Steamer engine. His boiler was a pancake boiler he fabricated from 1/2 inch black iron pipe he used a fire eye for flame detection it was very driveable he burnt waste oil in it.
I think the inlet valves open all the time by the pressure in the inlet manifold. They need to use the exhaust ones and get stiffer springs
Even if you didn't do much, I still learned how to convert an engine :D
good idea , you guys should continue doing "unconvensional" combustion engines
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I guess I wonder about two things. 1. Why not try cam as it was first. 2. Why not install a decompression valve to lower compression. Maybe go from 9:1 to 4:1 compression. You no longer need to compress for explosion. All and all great video, and hope the bugs get worked out.
Cutting and WELDING using an ANGLE GRINDER 😅😅😂🤔
Looking forward, John 🇨🇦
You don't even need radiator for it, because steam cannot got very hot like fire. Remove water pump will have less friction too.
But i thought you should push compressed air in the holes of sparkplugs (simulate explosion part), let intake valves closed and timing the exhaust valves in twice speed open/close. And add electronic air/gas valves with mechanic driven 4-way switch to open/close each valve. Complex idea indeed, but it might work too.
That's great! I've never seen a cam hacked like that!
Bahahaha there's a reason for that
For every turn you use as much air as the displacement of the engine. That must be kept in mind when making a bioiler to avoid issues with pressure drops.
You can inject the air onto the spark plug holes and use 4 electric air valves. Also you can modify the distriuitor to only open one valve at a time.
Intake must close as soon as piston reaches furthest down and exhaust immediately opens
Then obviously timing comes in now. The faster the earlier the intake must open
I recommend building a flash boiler because you are going to need a lot of steam pressure for that engine to remotely work.
Flash boilers are easy to make, you just need a container with lots of tubes in a spiral inside of it, as the water is forced into the bottom the heat by fire or whatever inside of the container creates steam which then travels upwards the spiral, the more it travels the hotter it gets causing super heated steam to be generated, this is steam several times the pressure of normal steam.
Almost all Steam engines developed in this area however you are going to need most of the back on that car for the boiler alone.
Suggest using a lot of fire insulation and a pressure valve is necessary, even if flash boilers are safer than normal boilers they can still rupture from over pressure therefore a pressure release valve is necessary safety.
I’m shaped just like this dude!
And aaaaalmost as handy
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Cut and reweld the cam lobes...you can at least clock the opening/closing to maximize your air use. Second, you would need individual air pipes to each cylinder, with switches/solenoids in the distributor to turn the air on and off at each top dead center.
Actual steam powered cars are real work of engineering.
You guys are awesome love your videos and this idea is going to be great!!!
These guys know their s-- better than most of GM and all of Fiat-Chrysler.
You really need to offset the two remaining cylinders 90° so that it can start on its own from any position. But if you ever want to run on actual steam, you need smaller cylinders at higher pressure. Water will not boil fast enough to feed large, low pressure cylinders like that.
You also want to close the intake valve way before the piston reaches the end of the power stroke. Taking in all the pressure near the end is wasteful. Consider cutting the intake cams in half so that the trailing half of the cam is missing. The valves should slam shut at about half of the stroke. (It would be more efficient to close even sooner, but difficult to do with just a simple welded camshaft.)
It would be great if two of the four intakes could be disabled on demand to reduce steam use while cruising.
Put a turbo jet engine on it so the exhaust feeds the pressure side with the turbo blowing straight into the engine with fuel so it makes better compression
There is no fuel
The air pressure will also be pushing the intake valve open i would be putting a stronger intake spring on the valves it should use significantly less air
Think you Mr Russian I always wanted a steam powered mini bike because I am sick of expensive and or crappy gasoline and with steam all you need is water, oil and some rubbish from the correct preferably pine needles.
Cut the crank shaft in two to make the four pistons 90 degrees apart and adjust the cams accordingly, doubt it'll continue turning under load otherwise, it'll want to stay at bottom-dead-center without torque from another cylinder to upset the balance.
Kreosan and Garage 54 should make collaboration video.
greatest video in long time !
Connect your steam engine too another cars exhaust to attain the volume of compressed (air) needed to run it !! Fun !!
Suggestion- You guys should try to replace the engine of a Lada with a generator or go-kart engine. Hook the engine to the manual transmission and see what kind of driving you can do with it!