It is such coincidence to see Sasha on this channel! Three years ago her book on insomnia (Effortless sleep) was so helpful on my recovery journey. And after I overcame insomnia (which isn't the right word, as I had no other choice but to completely and honesty surrender trying to fix my sleep and the whole insomnia just fell apart) - I realized that in this life I don't really have control and that realization felt strangely liberating. And since that insomnia case falling apart I started to question all the things I thought were true. After that I found about the non-duality/awakening topic (this summer) because it was just like that micro realization in sleep area but at a scale much much bigger. But I can see how the brain's attempts to protect its beliefs got trickier and uncatchable - I'm still to see through my mind's garbage. Great and profound episode! Thank you!
As I'm listening to this interview, stopped for a moment to check your comment @Alina and this feels like getting a hug of comfort and hope... (have an 18 yr old daughter who's been dealing with ADD, anxiety and insomnia for a while) and I can't stop thinking about ways I can "help" her, support her and be there for her. Will definitely check Sasha's book and finish listening to her experience... Thanks for sharing this! 🙏 ❤️
When Sasha said that everything is just a belief, my mind stopped for a moment and there was no center and fear kicked in. It was a very physical fear felt in the body.
Well, I got triggered at first, probably because I can get that excited too! 😂😂 Which helped me realize, if she can be that hyper and wake up, so can anyone, even me… 😊 Whew!!! 🎉
And exactly how it is. I do relate, resonate with this. I used to use the word "weird", until a person said, what you're experiencing is not weird, it's normal. This is how it is. When I first experienced the bliss I felt I needed to talk about it so I called a "spiritual" friend, and after about 5 mins. She told me she had to go cos my energy was way too high.
You nailed it saying that shame is the main defense mechanism of our little egos in action... It is always about what "others" would say had they only known our innermost thoughts.....
Three separate times now, I have had an experience that I can’t describe while listening to your content. It truly is remarkable. I don’t think I’ve ever directly received a transmission from a teacher before. And yet it keeps on happening with your stuff. Just incredible. And I’m so thankful.
I have heard it often that the thoughts and emotions that are believed are like clouds and need not be held onto because of what I really am, this vast presence,... today it went deeper especially with things coming into being and disappearing simultaneously, not worrying about what to leave in and what to leave out...thanks to both of you ...will be sharing this excellent sharing.
At 1:09:41 when he talks about someone who is realized, who is he referring to? I really loved this interview. Not sure how I didnt see it earlier. Please do more interviews.
So cool to hear this interview after being at the retreat with you two! On the last day of the retreat I was standing about fifteen feet away from her and she commented on my eyes, and all I could think was “how can she possibly see them in that detail from over there?”. Now I wonder if that was one of the HD moments she was taking about 😅 So happy for you, Sasha!!!
Sasha said she could talk to you for hours. I could also listen to this conversation for hours. Would it be interesting to have a follow-up conversation every month to explore Sasha's insights as time passes? Thank you Angelo for such insightful fun. Loved it!
Thank you for asking Sasha 'why' she was ambivalent about telling her 'story'. In the past I found it infuriating when someone had awoken and suggested that story isn't important but never really stated why. I eventually got over that , but, Sasha's explanation of why telling the story might not even be worth it sits very well with me. I assume it shouldn't matter, but for some reason it really does. I'm really enjoying your interview series and continue to really resonate with some of your guests.
Very helpful interview. Recognizing lots of bits of awakening happening to me. Or that I’m slowly recognizing. I’ve had chats with friends about the very defined subject object relationship in religion ( animism comment). It’s so strong there and very hard to recognize even though there are scriptures that indicate unity with consciousness (when you see me you’ve seen the father…. I and the father are one.. etc)
Just love these exchanges Angelo! Sasha is just delightful. Man, it’s so true about non duality turning up around every corner, in films, tv & music. I thought it may be like when you buy a car, then see the same model everywhere but sometimes the reference just smacks you around the head and you’re like Wtf??
Yep. This was a great interview. Sasha did a great job articulating it and conveying the general feelings of the experience. It’s so hard to put into words.
Being a piano teacher I now “discovered” (but actually it was always obvious) how simple focus can improve student’s technique. Just avoid thoughts, laser focus on the task and it comes along almost immediately! Thoughts are a huge waste of time!
Same with sports, like boxing. I notice so obviously that when you start thinking about your movements and punches, you suddenly can't do it. It has to flow without thought.
It's the same with playing guitar and drums. And if we start talking sports I know the phenomenon from playing football and handball. Never think about it, just do it.
This women shines the essential quality to get over the dreaming state.... authentic honesty,.. and you can feel and clearly see, she will never betray herself, this being the primal condition of all, being entirely trustful to yourself, whatever the outcome. 💙
I'm finding/having much joy & freedom with Gangaji's & Papaji's "JUST STOP" conncept/practice, to find freedom from egoic limitations. When I remember to JUST STOP, my ego seems to suddenly disappear & am left totally alone, happy & whole & complete...yet indescribable.
Very very good. Very very helpful. "You don't need to discern." Very nice! "It's not LIKE anything!" Very very helpful. Thank you both for putting this forth.
That’s so weird because I’ve been obsessed with two things for the last 15 years, non-duality, and the law of attraction, they’re just seems to be truth to those but lately, I’m starting to feel like material things have don’t have the same effect on my internal peace that I thought it did. Exactly like she said there’s only one thing that matters and that’s the truth to me which I can only explain right now is a deep connection with what’s real but I have not awoken yet… I try to meditate. I get several massages because that brings me close for some reason.. and then I try to just let go of leaves and attachments, which still consistently arise… Great story
It does feel very refreshing when one does not try to sell you something, some idea or a system of self-(or no-self) improvement. It feels like, that it is because of this honesty and passion that this subtle truth is being transmitted. Thank you for your effortless-work (just to say “work” would sound strange here).
What you're touching on after the one hour mark is why your material has been so digestible for me. After getting over the woo barriers the way you express yourself about this topic slots right in with my 'scientific/academic/secular' background. Very approachable, thanks a lot.
I love it! Resonates so much and challenges me just right. I have that tribalism, even when thinking about your interview partners. Even the word "even" in the last sentence indicates tribalism. Also thank you so much for clarifying why the idealist vs materialist discussion is not the real deal. Makes sense that I lean to idealism right now, but that's just a story, that's not it. Also beautiful to see the authenticity and you commenting on that. strongly held beliefs keep us from being authentic. seems obvious somehow. So nice to recognize "overwhelmed" behavior patterns from Sasha. Kind of gives me validation in my path. That implies there is doubt in me. It's really touching how you put in the "effort" to make your teaching so available/hearable for different people.🥺can't wait to use that momentum to unlearn stuff. wow God give me the power to let those whispy sticky beliefs go. May you all be happy
Amazing interview! I could feel the transmission in her every word. I laid down, closed my eyes and listened. It felt like I was discovering the truth as she was telling her story only it was unfolding in my life. Very powerful, thank you both.
This is a fantastic interview. Everything said in this interview happened to me this summer. That neutral space, animism, all of it. Even the HD, so clear and beautiful. The ego really wanted to call the neutral space boring. Finally what was revealed is that this neutral space is a gap that allows life to evoke what is needed in the moment, like how Angelo described where the words come from. Magic and Mystery occurs in this gap that defies logic. I remember staring at a flower in my front yard and feeling all of life in that moment, and, at the same time the desperate ego is whispering, what are your neighbors thinking? The discussion about examining a belief that you never realized was a belief is profound. Thank you so much Angelo and Sasha. I will listen to this over and over.
Same. I remember as a child not understanding the word "properly." It's different for everything. Sit up "properly" is different to stand up "properly." What is "properly". It means nothing.
Wow, I don’t know how I missed this conversation before. I absolutely adore that, so many nuggets I will have to rewatch I hope for you guys to do another conversation and I’m interested to know what Saskia is doing now. The story about the chopping wood was brilliant.
This video has made me realize that sometimes while doing inquiry, even in that state of asking a question and seeing where it leads...even when it gets into deep silence, is still a form of thought. There are still overlays of identification that are unconscious. What a rabbit hole!
In therapy, I discovered that my "boredom" appeared anytime there was nothing to hold my attention/interest long enough to keep me from FEELING the hidden & bottled up OCEAN of: low level, unhappy, uncomfortable, negative, shameful, fearful, etc. thoughts & feelings that were deeply embedded somewhere within me due to a very bad/ugly, shame-based childhood/past & would quickly come to the surface ANYTIME there was nothing to block out that OCEAN of unconscious or low level pain & emotional discomfort/stress. Boredom was simply telling me that SOMETHING'S not right in here & needs some HEALING! Therapy helped me recognize what was wrong inside of me & then HOW to heal it. I can still get bored BUT it diminishes when I look for the underlying cause/pain & apply some of my healing tools to the "boredom". It usually goes away quickly. Boredom is simply the unrecognized byproduct of hidden, low level, EVER PRESENT INNER PAIN, that can be felt when there's nothing to keep it HIDDEN.
Jim, a year later I’m reading this and you’re perfectly capturing what I’m stepping into and allowing in my own life right now. I’m working on stopping my management of boredom, anxiety, and discomfort to engage deeper with what’s truly here. Thank you for your share! ❤️
Thank you...this interview is such a relief to watch, I've just had another awakening within an awakening..I have been grasping to do the work etc, etc, etc I'm here, I've very stuck..especially on one problem I had with a relative, the same persistent story over and over and over in my head thinking when I find the reason why they said what they said I will finally be free because in my head, that's what was preventing me from shifting this worthless (but dangerous) sticky thoughts Much love
So helping, as the other interviews, I love this! I appreciate your videos, so precious, and I can feel how it's Love of Life /Consciousness transmitting to the Consciousness I am. The surrendering in me is deeper and deeper , Thank you Angelo, Thank you Sasha!
Just a big thank you, especially after being on the retreat with you both, hearing the original question and now this ...I felt an understanding that was becoming increasing clear since then, get clearer still!
This is so amazing resonating. I feel I am on the brink of waking up, but somehow this doesn’t even matter. Somehow it all makes sense because there is no purpose at all. Even the statement making sense seems false. Somehow natural beingness is sparkling through. Anyway, fantastic interview ❤️❤️❤️
Awesome! Great to "see" Sasha again. We only got to talk briefly in Boone. This was awesome Sasha!... and Angelo. :) I know exactly what you mean Sasha, about how stories seem so irrelevant.
the discussion in this conversation around transmission is fascinating. I love how you pointed out the ways in which one can transmit even through complicity & delusion -- and how that means that people who are awake can actually be involved & in service to the world not just through teaching awakening, but in seemingly mundane areas, and still be providing the service of transmission. absolutely fantastic!!!
Im watching this now and can relate to everything she is saying..This was a very powerful video....she is validating experiences I have seen and felt too...NO confusion but clarity to everything she is sharing...So beautiful
"Doubt is a thought" I have heard you say so many times before but today seeing this video made me realize what this meant. Averseness plus a limiting belief in some way
Loved sashes honesty talking about self ( thoughts ) still coming in . I’m seeing those thoughts trying to hook me in a lot atm , but it’s so freeing when I can see them clearly as being totally irrelevant inconsequential! 😅💙🦋
All these non dual experiences Sasha is talking about are actually pretty common place, especially during a Kudalini process. There were times when I could actually. feel the grass growing around me, see energy fields around squirrels and super clear clarity like she mentions. So what?
@@richmac6345 you have to learn it from your own immediate experience. Not being cheeky here but being literal. As you move through the day, ask yourself, “what is being communicated to me right now?” Then don’t think about it intellectually but really feel in. Do this with trees, the sky, the sensation of your hands on the steering wheel, music, etc etc
I was doing intense therapy back in the late 70's and got into primal scream unintentionally. The first episode, I wailed in front of a group for 45 minutes. No tears. Just wailing. The kind where your stomach rolls pushing it out. After that, any event that brought up an association to some pain I had repressed, pressure built in the back of my head. Then I knew I had to get back to my apartment so I could let it out. Feeling the pain made it go away. Years later their were kundalini episodes. No at 74 I am still eminently curious about awakening as there seems to be no end to the subtlety. What I basically experience is an okayness. Not bliss. Not ecstasy. Just peace. I tend to think of experiences as messengers. Once you get the message, the bliss does not have to remain. You know, and you know that you know. Trusting the unknown seems to be the only logical and practical approach to life. The benefits of awakening are many. One drawback is that when you live in the present moment all the time, you have to be really conscientious about finishing tasks one starts. If not, when you move to the next thing, the other is completely gone. The past becomes meaningless and so most of it has gone. I can play the role of father and grandfather, but there is no pressure in it because I know they are no more mine than any other children. Peace!
Just living in pure existence!! I recall that place and you can’t grab hold of anything as it just comes through you!! You don’t retain anything any longer!!! 🙏💙
WOW! thank you so much for sharing this story. It "shifted" something in me!! I can so relate to Sahsa's story. I worked in medical research (PhD in internal medicine) and brought my "researcher mind" to figure out that spiritual path in a "strategic" kind of way 🤣 OMG! even typing it out sounds ridiculous now and thanks to RUclips algorithm that had this video in the first row of suggestion for me 💛
Very nice interview. I can relate. My mind is, and has always been, trying to understand. Lately i'm getting tired of it because i feel deep down there is nothing to be understood. It's fascinating to see the commonalities between evil on a large scale, like dictatorship, and the personal ego. In the end the drive for control always destroys itself. This is also what comes forward in this interview. The ego wants to understand (in order to control) so badly that it runs into its own limitations and gets seen through.
The little "I" thought asking for its prize for going into the neutral space. Great insight! Overall this video is phenomenal. The stuff on mystery and trust and just how authentic she is one can feel it.
It's crazy. I don't know why but I can't stop consuming this kind of content, as well as scientific and philosophical contents all around. It's like a seeking for nothing, and of course I can't help it. I just love to listen to all of this, It just feels as a natural impulse to accumulate as much "fact-knowledge", experiences and points of view as possible, but I don't know why, there's actually no why. I don't even use or recall that information unless it's somehow done naturally in a random conversation.
What you call the neutral space is emptiness. When we look inside, we see nothing, which we perceive as a lack of anything. I think it is helpful to not be afraid to contemplate this emptiness, to perceive it as "something" with qualities. And contemplate its nature. There is no end to emptiness, and it grows larger and more spacious as to contain everything. A Zen monk was asked what Enlightenment was like, he answered Empty but full.
This was so cool to watch! I had the chance to spend some time with Sasha right before the retreat since she was staying at the same hotel the night before and her and another retreater found me as I was wearing my ZDogg merch while we were all having breakfast that morning. I had no idea she was author or that she took classes in philosophy though so that was so cool to learn. I could also relate to so much of her experiences after the retreat and felt like this interview was particularly relatable in a way that's very hard to put into words. ❤
I love this. When she said that sometimes, it feels really small, really small and intimate, i thought 'wow yes!'. Sometimes I get the sensation like that and it doesn't last long thankfully as it's quite unpleasant, claustrophobic, kind of. But then other times it's a sensation that is so expansive as if all my awareness has just exploded out into the furthest reaches of the universe. Again it doesn't last long as a sensation but it's WOW.
Great interview! How a small blind spot can keep you unaware. Her mind is a bit similar to mine,so its great to hear her story. And yes,she will probably write a great book 😁
It’s amazing to see all the knowledge we thought we knew fade away in importance and as a foundation in who we thought we were. Thanks for revealing the “sticky thoughts”, the ones that are just the way it is, it’s just how it is. Great pointers. Thank you Sasha and Angelo!
"i've just not used much spiritual terminology, I've tried to talk very directly about my own experience and experience working with others and used very common terminology and language. And it turns out it works just fine. You don't need a tradition necessarily. You don't even need precious and I can talk in emotional spectrum and human spectrum. Like, You know this is possible. That can work for anyone, of course it can, but they have to be you know, ready and all that. It doesn't matter, it's your true nature. I mean wow it's a possibility for anyone. ❤❤❤❤ I've suffered a lot since I was young. Have always regretted being borne and still would prefer not to have been but... this is the one chance I have at changing all that and so I'll carry on seeking until I exhaust myself, surrender and wake up (I hope... I really do) Thanks Angelo!
It is such coincidence to see Sasha on this channel! Three years ago her book on insomnia (Effortless sleep) was so helpful on my recovery journey. And after I overcame insomnia (which isn't the right word, as I had no other choice but to completely and honesty surrender trying to fix my sleep and the whole insomnia just fell apart) - I realized that in this life I don't really have control and that realization felt strangely liberating. And since that insomnia case falling apart I started to question all the things I thought were true. After that I found about the non-duality/awakening topic (this summer) because it was just like that micro realization in sleep area but at a scale much much bigger. But I can see how the brain's attempts to protect its beliefs got trickier and uncatchable - I'm still to see through my mind's garbage. Great and profound episode! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing
As I'm listening to this interview, stopped for a moment to check your comment @Alina and this feels like getting a hug of comfort and hope... (have an 18 yr old daughter who's been dealing with ADD, anxiety and insomnia for a while) and I can't stop thinking about ways I can "help" her, support her and be there for her. Will definitely check Sasha's book and finish listening to her experience... Thanks for sharing this! 🙏 ❤️
I love how your interviewing new amazing people rather then making the rounds of people who are already known on You tube. Thank you.
It’s my fav
When Sasha said that everything is just a belief, my mind stopped for a moment and there was no center and fear kicked in. It was a very physical fear felt in the body.
I loved this. Shasha's rapid fire, multi-thread speaking is not at all annoying; it's exhilarating! And a bit frightening.
yes! and the transmission does comes through
Well, I got triggered at first, probably because I can get that excited too! 😂😂 Which helped me realize, if she can be that hyper and wake up, so can anyone, even me… 😊 Whew!!! 🎉
And exactly how it is. I do relate, resonate with this. I used to use the word "weird", until a person said, what you're experiencing is not weird, it's normal. This is how it is. When I first experienced the bliss I felt I needed to talk about it so I called a "spiritual" friend, and after about 5 mins. She told me she had to go cos my energy was way too high.
You nailed it saying that shame is the main defense mechanism of our little egos in action... It is always about what "others" would say had they only known our innermost thoughts.....
oof! that hits me
Lovely, sincere, and genuine woman. Disarmingly authentic.
Thank you both…
🫥🫥🫥
I can feel that thin skin of beliefs.
Thank you both for the clarity on this!
Three separate times now, I have had an experience that I can’t describe while listening to your content. It truly is remarkable. I don’t think I’ve ever directly received a transmission from a teacher before. And yet it keeps on happening with your stuff. Just incredible. And I’m so thankful.
I have heard it often that the thoughts and emotions that are believed are like clouds and need not be held onto because of what I really am, this vast presence,... today it went deeper especially with things coming into being and disappearing simultaneously, not worrying about what to leave in and what to leave out...thanks to both of you ...will be sharing this excellent sharing.
At 1:09:41 when he talks about someone who is realized, who is he referring to? I really loved this interview. Not sure how I didnt see it earlier. Please do more interviews.
I'd like to know also.
Thanks!
Thank you 😊
2 minutes into the podcast and I recognized my own personal spiritual awakening journey in her story.
Same 🙏🏻🌗🧿☯️🙏🏿
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake have you listened to Chiron lasts videos?
@@arthulizen167 haven’t heard of them
So cool to hear this interview after being at the retreat with you two! On the last day of the retreat I was standing about fifteen feet away from her and she commented on my eyes, and all I could think was “how can she possibly see them in that detail from over there?”. Now I wonder if that was one of the HD moments she was taking about 😅
So happy for you, Sasha!!!
😮❤💥
Pure unconditional love comes flowing through and you FEEL it. 🙏💙
This is the first podcast video that has really touched me, I have listen to hundreds, I feel overwhelmed and just crying.
Happy for you!
💥🔥🦋🌻🍁
This is why we do the interviews, you never know who will resonate or be deeply touched :))))
I can confirm Insomnia will turn you spiritual very quickly...it's no joke.
Insomnia and breakups 😅
Sasha said she could talk to you for hours. I could also listen to this conversation for hours. Would it be interesting to have a follow-up conversation every month to explore Sasha's insights as time passes? Thank you Angelo for such insightful fun. Loved it!
Thank you for asking Sasha 'why' she was ambivalent about telling her 'story'.
In the past I found it infuriating when someone had awoken and suggested that story isn't important but never really stated why. I eventually got over that , but, Sasha's explanation of why telling the story might not even be worth it sits very well with me. I assume it shouldn't matter, but for some reason it really does. I'm really enjoying your interview series and continue to really resonate with some of your guests.
Very helpful interview. Recognizing lots of bits of awakening happening to me. Or that I’m slowly recognizing. I’ve had chats with friends about the very defined subject object relationship in religion ( animism comment). It’s so strong there and very hard to recognize even though there are scriptures that indicate unity with consciousness (when you see me you’ve seen the father…. I and the father are one.. etc)
31:30 thank you so much for clarifying this! I've been wondering about this for a while and I can see what you mean now and it's beautiful!
Just love these exchanges Angelo! Sasha is just delightful.
Man, it’s so true about non duality turning up around every corner, in films, tv & music. I thought it may be like when you buy a car, then see the same model everywhere but sometimes the reference just smacks you around the head and you’re like Wtf??
Great analogy.
Yep. This was a great interview. Sasha did a great job articulating it and conveying the general feelings of the experience. It’s so hard to put into words.
Just watched this after recently finding Simply Always Awake. The best talk I have listened to in regard to spirituality. 🌟
Being a piano teacher I now “discovered” (but actually it was always obvious) how simple focus can improve student’s technique. Just avoid thoughts, laser focus on the task and it comes along almost immediately! Thoughts are a huge waste of time!
Same with sports, like boxing. I notice so obviously that when you start thinking about your movements and punches, you suddenly can't do it. It has to flow without thought.
It's the same with playing guitar and drums. And if we start talking sports I know the phenomenon from playing football and handball. Never think about it, just do it.
This is by far the most clear explanation into what all the Non-Duality videos are pointing to
I agree, she did a great job
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake she should be a writer 😉
This women shines the essential quality to get over the dreaming state.... authentic honesty,.. and you can feel and clearly see, she will never betray herself, this being the primal condition of all, being entirely trustful to yourself, whatever the outcome. 💙
I'm finding/having much joy & freedom with Gangaji's & Papaji's "JUST STOP" conncept/practice, to find freedom from egoic limitations. When I remember to JUST STOP, my ego seems to suddenly disappear & am left totally alone, happy & whole & complete...yet indescribable.
Very very good. Very very helpful. "You don't need to discern." Very nice! "It's not LIKE anything!" Very very helpful. Thank you both for putting this forth.
That’s so weird because I’ve been obsessed with two things for the last 15 years, non-duality, and the law of attraction, they’re just seems to be truth to those but lately, I’m starting to feel like material things have don’t have the same effect on my internal peace that I thought it did. Exactly like she said there’s only one thing that matters and that’s the truth to me which I can only explain right now is a deep connection with what’s real but I have not awoken yet… I try to meditate. I get several massages because that brings me close for some reason.. and then I try to just let go of leaves and attachments, which still consistently arise… Great story
God I just love her! This is amazing! She is hilarious and just so great. Thanks!
What a beautiful child this person is!
It does feel very refreshing when one does not try to sell you something, some idea or a system of self-(or no-self) improvement. It feels like, that it is because of this honesty and passion that this subtle truth is being transmitted. Thank you for your effortless-work (just to say “work” would sound strange here).
I’ve always connected to my flow through writing and art. I did not recognise it in my life at ALL until a few months ago. It’s magic. ❤
So grateful to both of you for this interview!!!
What you're touching on after the one hour mark is why your material has been so digestible for me. After getting over the woo barriers the way you express yourself about this topic slots right in with my 'scientific/academic/secular' background. Very approachable, thanks a lot.
I love it! Resonates so much and challenges me just right. I have that tribalism, even when thinking about your interview partners. Even the word "even" in the last sentence indicates tribalism. Also thank you so much for clarifying why the idealist vs materialist discussion is not the real deal. Makes sense that I lean to idealism right now, but that's just a story, that's not it. Also beautiful to see the authenticity and you commenting on that. strongly held beliefs keep us from being authentic. seems obvious somehow. So nice to recognize "overwhelmed" behavior patterns from Sasha. Kind of gives me validation in my path. That implies there is doubt in me. It's really touching how you put in the "effort" to make your teaching so available/hearable for different people.🥺can't wait to use that momentum to unlearn stuff. wow God give me the power to let those whispy sticky beliefs go. May you all be happy
Truly truly loved every bit of the conversation. There is absolutely nothing to be.
Amazing interview! I could feel the transmission in her every word. I laid down, closed my eyes and listened. It felt like I was discovering the truth as she was telling her story only it was unfolding in my life. Very powerful, thank you both.
Welcome
This is a fantastic interview. Everything said in this interview happened to me this summer. That neutral space, animism, all of it. Even the HD, so clear and beautiful. The ego really wanted to call the neutral space boring. Finally what was revealed is that this neutral space is a gap that allows life to evoke what is needed in the moment, like how Angelo described where the words come from. Magic and Mystery occurs in this gap that defies logic. I remember staring at a flower in my front yard and feeling all of life in that moment, and, at the same time the desperate ego is whispering, what are your neighbors thinking? The discussion about examining a belief that you never realized was a belief is profound. Thank you so much Angelo and Sasha. I will listen to this over and over.
Thanks for sharing Mary
I love it😊 I’m so happy for Sasha, she is just beaming with delight.
I love seeing that overwhelming clarity fall over people. 😊
Sasha is just as smart and funny as I expected from her short question with you. There is no because… this has touched something in me. Thank you both
Same. I remember as a child not understanding the word "properly." It's different for everything. Sit up "properly" is different to stand up "properly." What is "properly". It means nothing.
Wow, I don’t know how I missed this conversation before. I absolutely adore that, so many nuggets I will have to rewatch I hope for you guys to do another conversation and I’m interested to know what Saskia is doing now. The story about the chopping wood was brilliant.
Amazing discussion on paper thin beliefs as being the truth. Your sharing is beautiful. Thankyou ❤
Did you mean to say that paper thin beliefs block the truth? 🤔
This video has made me realize that sometimes while doing inquiry, even in that state of asking a question and seeing where it leads...even when it gets into deep silence, is still a form of thought. There are still overlays of identification that are unconscious. What a rabbit hole!
In therapy, I discovered that my "boredom" appeared anytime there was nothing to hold my attention/interest long enough to keep me from FEELING the hidden & bottled up OCEAN of: low level, unhappy, uncomfortable, negative, shameful, fearful, etc. thoughts & feelings that were deeply embedded somewhere within me due to a very bad/ugly, shame-based childhood/past & would quickly come to the surface ANYTIME there was nothing to block out that OCEAN of unconscious or low level pain & emotional discomfort/stress. Boredom was simply telling me that SOMETHING'S not right in here & needs some HEALING! Therapy helped me recognize what was wrong inside of me & then HOW to heal it. I can still get bored BUT it diminishes when I look for the underlying cause/pain & apply some of my healing tools to the "boredom". It usually goes away quickly. Boredom is simply the unrecognized byproduct of hidden, low level, EVER PRESENT INNER PAIN, that can be felt when there's nothing to keep it HIDDEN.
Jim, a year later I’m reading this and you’re perfectly capturing what I’m stepping into and allowing in my own life right now. I’m working on stopping my management of boredom, anxiety, and discomfort to engage deeper with what’s truly here.
Thank you for your share! ❤️
Thank you...this interview is such a relief to watch, I've just had another awakening within an awakening..I have been grasping to do the work etc, etc, etc I'm here, I've very stuck..especially on one problem I had with a relative, the same persistent story over and over and over in my head thinking when I find the reason why they said what they said I will finally be free because in my head, that's what was preventing me from shifting this worthless (but dangerous) sticky thoughts
Much love
Love Sasha's energy and excitement! Everything exists to awaken us...till Life is ...connection to all that is❣
Just listening to this video makes my head feel spacey!
This has been so helpful to my own unfolding. So thankful that you two recorded this convo. Such gratitude for you both!!
So helping, as the other interviews, I love this! I appreciate your videos, so precious, and I can feel how it's Love of Life /Consciousness transmitting to the Consciousness I am.
The surrendering in me is deeper and deeper , Thank you Angelo, Thank you Sasha!
What a wonderful conversation, thank you both for bringing the gift of your sharing of this wonderful mystery!
thanks for listening
I loved this. She has so much to write about now. New world. Congrats to you both.
I had a similar thought.
Then wondered if she would write any more at all?
Ahhhhh 🙌🏼. Currently exhausting myself with these beliefs. Their time is running out🔥
This is such an amazing conversation ❤ she is just beautiful the way she shares her experience ❤ I am grateful for this channel ❤ Thank you 🙏
Just a big thank you, especially after being on the retreat with you both, hearing the original question and now this ...I felt an understanding that was becoming increasing clear since then, get clearer still!
This is most fabulous!!! Mind is blown!!!! Beyond any words!! ♥️♥️♥️
This is so amazing resonating. I feel I am on the brink of waking up, but somehow this doesn’t even matter. Somehow it all makes sense because there is no purpose at all. Even the statement making sense seems false. Somehow natural beingness is sparkling through. Anyway, fantastic interview ❤️❤️❤️
Awesome! Great to "see" Sasha again. We only got to talk briefly in Boone. This was awesome Sasha!... and Angelo. :) I know exactly what you mean Sasha, about how stories seem so irrelevant.
I was a spiritual editor. (I have branched out. 😆) I still do that occasionally but I so understand what she's saying and it just cracks me up! 😂
This interview is like eavesdropping on an epic dokusan! Love it!!!
Right??
You’ve read the enlightenment accounts and private encounters chapters in Three Pillars?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake pretty much memorized.
the discussion in this conversation around transmission is fascinating. I love how you pointed out the ways in which one can transmit even through complicity & delusion -- and how that means that people who are awake can actually be involved & in service to the world not just through teaching awakening, but in seemingly mundane areas, and still be providing the service of transmission. absolutely fantastic!!!
Im watching this now and can relate to everything she is saying..This was a very powerful video....she is validating experiences I have seen and felt too...NO confusion but clarity to everything she is sharing...So beautiful
"Doubt is a thought" I have heard you say so many times before but today seeing this video made me realize what this meant. Averseness plus a limiting belief in some way
This woman is so relatable to who I thought and sometimes still think I am it is so helpful ❤ Thank you so much
Loved sashes honesty talking about self ( thoughts ) still coming in . I’m seeing those thoughts trying to hook me in a lot atm , but it’s so freeing when I can see them clearly as being totally irrelevant inconsequential! 😅💙🦋
All these non dual experiences Sasha is talking about are actually pretty common place, especially during a Kudalini process. There were times when I could actually. feel the grass growing around me, see energy fields around squirrels and super clear clarity like she mentions. So what?
26:00 highlight response by simply aware, well stated! That really catches my attention, just as such a vibe would. Thanks
Amazing interview!! Thank you Angelo and Shasha👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💞💞💞💞💞
Everything that happens to us in life is trying to get us to “wake the Fuck up”
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Yes!
How so? I'm interested to learn this ;) Thanks
@@richmac6345 you have to learn it from your own immediate experience. Not being cheeky here but being literal. As you move through the day, ask yourself, “what is being communicated to me right now?” Then don’t think about it intellectually but really feel in. Do this with trees, the sky, the sensation of your hands on the steering wheel, music, etc etc
@@richmac6345similarly, a good friend told me his own personal inquiry question is “in this moment, how am I arguing with experience?”.
I was doing intense therapy back in the late 70's and got into primal scream unintentionally. The first episode, I wailed in front of a group for 45 minutes. No tears. Just wailing. The kind where your stomach rolls pushing it out. After that, any event that brought up an association to some pain I had repressed, pressure built in the back of my head. Then I knew I had to get back to my apartment so I could let it out. Feeling the pain made it go away. Years later their were kundalini episodes.
No at 74 I am still eminently curious about awakening as there seems to be no end to the subtlety.
What I basically experience is an okayness. Not bliss. Not ecstasy. Just peace. I tend to think of experiences as messengers. Once you get the message, the bliss does not have to remain. You know, and you know that you know. Trusting the unknown seems to be the only logical and practical approach to life.
The benefits of awakening are many. One drawback is that when you live in the present moment all the time, you have to be really conscientious about finishing tasks one starts. If not, when you move to the next thing, the other is completely gone. The past becomes meaningless and so most of it has gone. I can play the role of father and grandfather, but there is no pressure in it because I know they are no more mine than any other children.
Peace!
Thanks for sharing !
This is beautiful Angelo. Thank you. Your state does the work. 🙏💜
Just living in pure existence!! I recall that place and you can’t grab hold of anything as it just comes through you!! You don’t retain anything any longer!!! 🙏💙
Learned so much including that I know nothing. ❤❤
Thank you so much Sasha and Angelo. This was so valuable. Thank you thank you. ❤❤❤
Kristin
WOW! thank you so much for sharing this story. It "shifted" something in me!! I can so relate to Sahsa's story. I worked in medical research (PhD in internal medicine) and brought my "researcher mind" to figure out that spiritual path in a "strategic" kind of way 🤣 OMG! even typing it out sounds ridiculous now
and thanks to RUclips algorithm that had this video in the first row of suggestion for me 💛
So much appreciation. So very helpful. Thank you both.
Very nice interview. I can relate. My mind is, and has always been, trying to understand. Lately i'm getting tired of it because i feel deep down there is nothing to be understood.
It's fascinating to see the commonalities between evil on a large scale, like dictatorship, and the personal ego. In the end the drive for control always destroys itself. This is also what comes forward in this interview. The ego wants to understand (in order to control) so badly that it runs into its own limitations and gets seen through.
The little "I" thought asking for its prize for going into the neutral space. Great insight! Overall this video is phenomenal. The stuff on mystery and trust and just how authentic she is one can feel it.
Before enlightenment can't chop wood. After enlightenment chopping wood like a lumberjack! Great discussion thanks ❤️🙏
So spontaneous and funny was this interview: I really laughed a lot. Thanks for giving me that pleasure 🙏🏽😂
Welcome!
Dizzy wonderful dealing with life paradox. Thank you for coming into that so bravely and direct.
This was so good….2nd time listening…heard something different this time…thank you to both of you💫
This is a beautiful follow up to “ this sort talk led to awakening” so glad you suggested it on last nights talk, omg so powerful !!😲💥💥🙏❤️💜💙🦋
Same here❣️
it feels so good to listen to both of you!!
Thank you, great video!
It's crazy. I don't know why but I can't stop consuming this kind of content, as well as scientific and philosophical contents all around. It's like a seeking for nothing, and of course I can't help it.
I just love to listen to all of this, It just feels as a natural impulse to accumulate as much "fact-knowledge", experiences and points of view as possible, but I don't know why, there's actually no why. I don't even use or recall that information unless it's somehow done naturally in a random conversation.
What you call the neutral space is emptiness. When we look inside, we see nothing, which we perceive as a lack of anything. I think it is helpful to not be afraid to contemplate this emptiness, to perceive it as "something" with qualities. And contemplate its nature. There is no end to emptiness, and it grows larger and more spacious as to contain everything. A Zen monk was asked what Enlightenment was like, he answered Empty but full.
This video and conversation has twice led to a great deepening in awakening. So thankful!
Love both of you for sharing the wordless perfect of TRUTH of who and what we are really. Perfection keep Us HERE.
This was so cool to watch! I had the chance to spend some time with Sasha right before the retreat since she was staying at the same hotel the night before and her and another retreater found me as I was wearing my ZDogg merch while we were all having breakfast that morning. I had no idea she was author or that she took classes in philosophy though so that was so cool to learn. I could also relate to so much of her experiences after the retreat and felt like this interview was particularly relatable in a way that's very hard to put into words. ❤
Love it
I love this. When she said that sometimes, it feels really small, really small and intimate, i thought 'wow yes!'. Sometimes I get the sensation like that and it doesn't last long thankfully as it's quite unpleasant, claustrophobic, kind of. But then other times it's a sensation that is so expansive as if all my awareness has just exploded out into the furthest reaches of the universe. Again it doesn't last long as a sensation but it's WOW.
What you described sounds like 2 of the 8 siddhis (spiritual powers) of the Hindu God Ganesh: Anima and Mahima
Great interview! How a small blind spot can keep you unaware. Her mind is a bit similar to mine,so its great to hear her story. And yes,she will probably write a great book 😁
It’s amazing to see all the knowledge we thought we knew fade away in importance and as a foundation in who we thought we were.
Thanks for revealing the “sticky thoughts”, the ones that are just the way it is, it’s just how it is. Great pointers.
Thank you Sasha and Angelo!
Truly a fantastic interview!
Beautiful conversation 🙏
"i've just not used much spiritual terminology, I've tried to talk very directly about my own experience and experience working with others and used very common terminology and language. And it turns out it works just fine. You don't need a tradition necessarily. You don't even need precious and I can talk in emotional spectrum and human spectrum. Like, You know this is possible. That can work for anyone, of course it can, but they have to be you know, ready and all that. It doesn't matter, it's your true nature. I mean wow it's a possibility for anyone. ❤❤❤❤ I've suffered a lot since I was young. Have always regretted being borne and still would prefer not to have been but... this is the one chance I have at changing all that and so I'll carry on seeking until I exhaust myself, surrender and wake up (I hope... I really do) Thanks Angelo!
You have the capacity 100%
Love this so much, thank you so much for sharing
Ok now I know I’ve had glimpses of THIS and I miss home. I really want to wake up.
❤❤❤I love awakeness lol it’s amazing being a part of everything is wonderful ❤❤
this was awesome!!
Thank you so much for this talk, Angelo and Sasha, you give me so much hope, this was lovely..
What a great interview! ❤
I have those feelings with Pink Floyd songs and lyrics.
Great interview!! When you were talking about the messages in art I totally agree with you. If you look, the messages are everywhere!❤🙏