Transcript, links to Angelo's book, channel, and website, and more shows on Awakening: zdoggmd.com/awakening-barriers Angelo's site for future retreats: books.simplyalwaysawake.com/ 00:00 Intro 01:38 Unfiltered reality is ALWAYS present, just seemingly obscured 04:59 Barrier 1: not knowing awakening is possible 17:12 Fear disguising itself as acquisition of knowledge 22:00 Barrier 2: doubt and the standing wave of identity/thought 44:35 Barrier 3: realizing what is a thought and what isn’t 55:49 Advice for overcoming sticky beliefs
Hey, I know these don't get as many views as your other videos, but I think the people that do watch them get a LOT out of them. Thanks for making them!
Zdogg, I’m not in the medical community, but I absolutely love your discussions about awakening and consciousness, particularly with Angelo. The two of you have lead me to the awareness and understanding that probably saved my life. I cannot thank the two of you enough, and I will be eternally grateful.
I’ve gotten a glimpse of this twice since being a kid. One lasted a day and one I persisted 4 days. I don’t know how or what I did to get in and out. I’d love to know. I remember those days clearly and long for that experience of reality almost daily. In fact that’s why I’m here.
I've heard "we don't control anything" over and over again, and my needing to control every person and situation stems from some pretty bad things that happened to me when I was very young. If I think something is beyond my control I become very scared likely stemming from my unconscious mind thinking more bad things will happen if I can't control everything, or at least quickly escape any situation I can't control. So I've spent alot of time exploring the nature of control, but since supposedly control is an illusion for me, who or what is controlling things? If it's not me and it's not you, then who? I'd say control is focused application of will towards some sort of object, but I also have heard that objects aren't real and are just an illusion. I know this on an intellectual level. A long time ago I realized, well deduced actually, that the only thing that can exist is the all, whatever label we choose to attach to it. So I understand all is one in a logical, Boolean, "if then" kind of way but I've had no direct experience of it. Like I said above I'm having a difficult time accepting that control isn't real because what makes anything happen if not the focused application of will? Is it just my tiny human will controlling anything is an illusion or is chaos, randomness and unconscious action the prime mover? Also, in regards to the "standing wave" idea it kind of ties into a realization I had about a year or two ago. Assuming we exist before we animate these bodies and we exist after we leave them then life is the odd part. We think of anything that exists that isn't in a body as the "other" or the strange when it seems the truth is the opposite.
26:58 "It really just comes down to a sense of just recoiling back into a subjective self to hold the world at a distance and *try to navigate it and think about it, etc. And then we believe that's how we actually live - that's how we cause life to do what life does.* But we don't, it's a holding back and a reflective 'safe place' of the mind." Something about this just makes so much sense.
absolutely love the way you both explore this subject. Angelo thank you SO much and Zuben, you are so receptive and such an able interviewer as well, a real joy to listen.
Thanks for bringing Angelo into my world. It’s great to hear two unpretentious ‘regular people’ talking. This subject sounds complicated but you guys make it simple.
The whole interview as always is amazing, but I really loved the ending, with a lump in my throat "give yourself permission to carry on" and yeah, it is terrifying. 👌
Someone said many years ago that religion is for ppl who need it. Idn see it that way when I was younger bc I grew up in a strong Catholic community and it was our training however as an adult, I can see some truth to that statement. I’m no longer affiliated with any religion and see it as a crutch for some ppl (not all) who are barely hanging on and that’s ok. Life can be difficult and we need all the help we can get to survive. Finding your “tribe” and sticking with it can heal broken hearts.
Great as usual conversation between you two! Like Z always says you guys are brothers from a different mother 😉❤ Hey Z! You're really lucky to have VIP access to Angelo (your comment about the rest of us who don't have an "Angelo" close by was so sweet) but remember as they said... when the student is ready, the "Angelo" shows up ... always! 😉🙏❤
Thank you! Extremely helpful! Especially the part with music in your mind- I recently have it all the time. It usually plays Chopin or Rachmaninov 😂 Today in the morning during the inquiry I surrendered it. It didn’t stop but I have the impression it got more quiet and it stopped bothering me. I realized it won’t hinder me on my “pathway”. Now I know I am not the only one and I feel even more committed! Highly appreciate everything you both do! 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Amazing listen, as always. Thanks gents! I will reflect with ruthless authenticity as to whether these barriers show up in my experience. Cursory thinking - surrendering deeply to spontaneity from fear of being an asshole or not being validated is definitely one. And sidenote, absolutely YES children authenticate presence. That made me jolt out of my seat in approval too Zubin 😂 Whenever I'm really coming from that place, all of a sudden children light up like Christmas trees and love being around me. The contrary - of being caught on the thought train - it's always the complete opposite. So fking true.
Thank you for this straight forward discussion of an important topic we're just barely starting to touch on in the west. One interesting blocker that comes up for me is the narrative mind's ability to co-opt an awakening experience and turn it into a story about "me" and "my awakening" and "how amazing it was" and "I've worked hard to get to this experience". The narrative mind will weave a net of words around your awakening experience, but what results is a false representation of that experience. Indulging this can lead one back into confusion.
I think I've done some of this years ago. Initially I learned to not fear or be ashamed of myself and accept my mind for what it is. I'm not sure where I would fall on this journey to awakening, or maybe I'm already there... Some of how you describe the human condition seems to alien to me at this point. I've had a peace for many years and i feel a similarity to being awake.. but also I could go further.
Well, to be fair, she probably didn't know, and even probably absorbed years of misinformation that it can't be done, we need some clergyperson to investigate for us. 😢
I find convictions even a more accurate description as believe(systems) because a conviction implies constant effort/doing. also, it is not bound to a religious connotation only
I'm really glad Z dogg said you can do this and still be functional; I don't know if I understand what he is talking about, but I've definitely been drawn to maybe what he is referring to and bouts of long introspection. Still, I always turn away because I don't want to go crazy or be seen as crazy.
Once you experience what he’s talking about, it’s so familiar and obvious as to make your old suffering life incomprehensible. Just keep at it! It’s the most worthwhile thing there is
The "craziness" that will come will be as a sorte of melting from love to all around you. Not only to the humans but plantes and even material objects. It is high state but no any intention to make "bad" things, as the state it self guide you trough.
As you discussed filters I realized it’s like everyone addicted to filters in picture apps or snap chat or whatever that alter the true picture. We need to turn off all of those to get back to the original. Now I get the subtraction thing thank you for this
Angelo - I swear the exact same thing with intelligence - waking up was the single best thing that ever happened - none of that matters now tho - except right now -
I woke up a few years ago and thought it was unique to me. Nice to see it’s happening to alot of people. I’d love to read the book and compare to my journey.
I relate to almost all of this happening in my mind all the time. I hate this like I hate listening to Aubrey Marcus. Probably because they have what I want and I don’t know how to navigate that thought pattern. I also don’t know how to let go of my desire for security.
📌It's actually our natural healthy state of being if we grew up in a respectful loving and not corrupted way. Everyone is special by nature because everyone is unique by nature. You just have to unfold yourself on the basis of respect and appreciation aka love to become and experience the uniquely beautiful person you are in connection with others and the world. Also not being afraid of your natural vulnerability as a living human being and not denying, hiding or trying to escape from it makes you actually stronger, brave and gives you the ability to live and experience the real beauty and quality of live.
Fun to watch you guys, being on the same wavelength, enjoying "inside" jokes. In 2020 I had an "awakening" using edibles. I had never used med Mary before. It was AWESOME!! I got soo much information. I felt so amazingly.. distant from myself but more myself than I have ever been. I felt no fear whatsoever. That lasted about a week. Then it slowly dwindled until I was in the worst depression of my life. Tiny decisions would throw me into a HUGE fight or flight panic attack. It was like I got a taste of being awake but had to go back and root out and deal with all the fears built up in my body. I am now teetering on the edge. A few days ago I was right there but chose not to leap. My reasoning, and yes, I know it is not true, but I did not want to not be this me anymore, quite yet.
Maybe you've experienced some kind of ego death and now trying to put yourself back together. Go through all your toys of the past, take with you those that you feel you need to take, and the rest leave with gratitude (but the role they played in your life to bring you to this moment) 🌈
Can you guys physically illustrate the standing wave thing? Angelo uses that metaphor a lot and it just makes me think of high school physics but I have no idea what it means
Yeah the demons love when people go thought less because they can walk in and take control. All this blah blah blah nonsense is Satanic and luciferian.
I don't wanna watch this because I'm well aware that that's just ego trying to attain some goody. And yet by refraining from watching it out of deciding that that would be the more spiritually correct way of attaining that goodie, then I'm absolutely stupid and doing the same thing. There is nothing to accomplish
if you feel like accomplishing this then go and act on it, the best way for this feeling to transform into what your saying on no attainments is to do it and see for yourself. You cant rationalize something that you want away, maybe the correct thing is to see what you want and go for it only you know
Oh, boy. I so want to understand (if not participate in) what you are talking about. I listen, or try to listen, to all these interviews, and talks by others such as Dr. Rick Hanson, but... I just don't get it. I was that kid in school with high aptitude tests and straight A's until I got to seventh-grade algebra, which was like that record-scratch sound to my brain. At that age, my brain said, WTF do I care what 1/2 xy is? Unlike most kids I loved geometry, because I could see what the angles and surfaces were. Algebra, though? My brain did not compute. Sometime into my mid-20s I finally understood; I think I needed life experience to understand what X and Y were substituting for. I'm in my 50s now and maybe when I'm 70 I'll finally need/want/understand this awakening stuff. Or not! I feel pretty satisfied with my life to this point, so maybe I don't "need" this and therefore can't see it. But I'm the curious type and am open to the idea of it.
I was the same Darla until 63 when all my trauma came back with a vengeance and I truly asked, Who Am I without the story? 67 now and it’s a roller coaster alright! Lol Perhaps it starts for you in continuing to watch an hour of these guys talking. Who knows. As Angelo says, don’t resist the resistance, accept where you are right now. Sounds good to me! I need a rest from the struggle.
Principle obstacle is overreliance on Awakening videos rather than transcending the mind directly. No problem. Access "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" and listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks. This is the foremost Shiva mantra from the Rig Veda. Manjushri in the Surangama Sutra states "They [practitioners] only need the practice of the faculty of hearing for them to break through to Enlightenment". .
It is not one’s job to be thoughtless. You should consider everything you do!Being thoughtless, is like the blink of an eye, its a reflex, not a action but a reaction! Sudden reactions get people hurt including self. That’s why tight steering is built into the fast cars to keep you from getting hurt or hurting someone else. The thoughts in your brain are spirits and your the soul which is the king or ruler of a whole kingdom that lives in your mind/brain. If you loose control the body becomes the thoughtless one and does as it pleases until war breaks out and causes things similar to seizures.
I really love these videos about meditation/awakening, I’ve been trying to get there for quite awhile but seem to be having some trouble. Is it possible for certain medications to make the process more difficult? It’s really one of the only things I can think of
There's a basic reason I don't really bother with this content Z. I've been active in meditation for a bit over 50 years. One of the things I noticed is those who get into it often "awaken" and have the exact same view of what that is supposed to look like. If you're "awake" you just are. If you can describe exactly what that experience is then you're probably not "awake." But, I've been an outcast for many years because I don't agree with the conventional wisdom of what it means to be "awake" and what the experience is "supposed to" be like. Just a bit of wisdom gained through experience. If you tell yourself what's "supposed to happen" it will happen but, that's not true "awakening" it's simply a version of self hypnosis, in my view. Just SIT don't expect anything. JUST SIT!
I've been engaged with this content (on Z and Angelo's channel, and I'm reading the book) for a while now, being on my own journey, amd what really draws me to it is that it really doesn't describe what "awake" is. It merely suggests ways to investigate. Has deepened my experience thoroughly, and having tasted it now, there's just no going back. 👌
@@damianhardy2965 Hi Damian, are you carrying out any 'practise'?, I too have read Angelo's book. It is heavy going and dip into it now again alongside other books and videos. Be good if there was a condensed abridge version lol. haven't really got into a routine or have been disciplined enough. Should spend more time practising rather pontificating
@@seancasey98 😆 Yes, so the shift started it seems at the end of last year, and then kicked into high gear when I came across Angelo on ZDogg in January. Took me a while to settle down with practice but have recently got into a bit of a rythm. Probably not enough, just half and hour in the mornings. But seems to spill over into daily life with some kind of enquiry carrying on a lot of the time during the day. Started reading Awake in late Jan, and I'm only just getting to the end now! 😆 it's been the slowest read ever and I'm not sure why, sometimes I just don't pick it up for a few days, and then I carry on, often with fresh insight. Go figure. I'm just very grateful for what appears to ongoing ok-ness. Whatever it is, there is no struggle anymore. 🙏
""" it's simply a version of self hypnosis, in my view.""" Angelo's version of it defintitely seems to be hypnosis. He affects himself differently in these interviews. But, in his own videos, it's broken sentences as if one word is a sentence, (followed by another one-word sentence.). That's classic hypnosis/brainwashing. His channel doesn't seem legit. He affects being zombied out, and channeling something from the other side. Then has all the personality and "thinking" to produce a video per day (and greenscreen effects, choosing an edgy -- clickbaity -- thumbnail). At some point you realize there's two Angelos. The one "teaching" and the one raking it in with clicks/likes/subscribes. You can't deny reality that way. "I'm in a trance... speaking one word. at. a. time." ("Wait, wait... I'm producing a video now, and have all the expert critical skills to make it salable."). It is so obviously not real that it gives real transcendence, awakening a bad name. It's pop-awakening.
Do either of you have days once in a while where thoughts win? Yesterday was like that and I’m moving on from it and dropping it now but am I the only one dealing with this periodically? Normally everything is on automatic but once in a while…
I seem to get stuck on the "letting go" part 😅. Seriously though, my mind goes: "but HOW do I "let go"? What does that mean in practice? Does it mean not think about it? About what?"
I’m having a thought about the guy at it’s a small world with Double Thought Stuff Oreos. Also, how is your book still in such good shape. I have tabs all over mine marking stuff. Lol
I do not now believe in such a thing as “ego”. What the word ego seems to point to is the automaticity of action-reaction, those innumerable programs or neural pathways that operate us. These programs can be observed, thought and emotion can be seen to arise out of reaction on a subtle or not so subtle level. The sense of identity is such a reflex. With the confirmation of repetition, this seems to be a truer and more helpful line of investigation. Please look, and see if this is not true.
Ego is just a word to point to an identification with thoughts and beliefs I think. A process as you say. There's not a "thing" in your head we can point to and say "look that there is the ego!".
Either you're both doing a much much better job at clearly identifying this process to a very wide ranging audience in a very empathetic way or my 15 plus year slow meditation education modern day shaman path is finally hitting a long downhill path toward some really long worked and waited for realizations and attainments.
A barrier to my awakening was the 21 times I was called by the NYS health dept in the past two weeks (using my cell and home phone) after having gotten COVID, all after my 5 day (really 6) isolation period, and a good percentage after my additional 5 days of required masking. I tried very hard not to freak out and tell anyone off. It was difficult. Another barrier is the shame I feel around getting COVID from my vaccinated mother who got it from a small, ventilated (door open), socially distanced home gathering of triple vaccinated always mask-ers. My mother didn't get the booster, because she got shingles after her second shot which took forever to recover from, and then everyone who got the booster ended up getting COVID over the winter...She's planning to wait until fall. No, this is not a joke or satire. I'm trying to stay sane. Also, I was disinvited from an Easter gathering of vaccinated people who mostly already had COVID after my required isolation was done, but those who had not yet gotten COVID tested positive within days of the gathering anyway. I've been shunned by these people for over two years, even though they came to every pre-pandemic gathering sick, and even came to a Easter gathering in the 80s with chicken pox. Again, trying to stay sane. Oh yeah, now that CVS has my information, they've started sending me reminders to get a COVID shot.
Sorry, im new to these types of conversations. So, to me this sounds like double speak. Not a very informative speak on how to "break through" to "enlightenment". Budda and most even spiritual leaders spend years to their enlightenment, no?
That's how brainwashing works. Listen to Angelo's actual videos. It's one word at a time. That's classic brainwashing technique. "This. Then that. Not. Yes, There. Not there." It's amazing to me he has the following he has.
@deborahminkoff7526 you obviously don't understand. This has nothing to do with the mind. You're projecting your own fear on to something that thousands of traditions have tried to communicate. Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, Christian Mysticism, Sufism. They all point to the same thing that angelo is pointing to. If you don't want freedom from suffering, that's on you
Transcript, links to Angelo's book, channel, and website, and more shows on Awakening: zdoggmd.com/awakening-barriers
Angelo's site for future retreats: books.simplyalwaysawake.com/
00:00 Intro
01:38 Unfiltered reality is ALWAYS present, just seemingly obscured
04:59 Barrier 1: not knowing awakening is possible
17:12 Fear disguising itself as acquisition of knowledge
22:00 Barrier 2: doubt and the standing wave of identity/thought
44:35 Barrier 3: realizing what is a thought and what isn’t
55:49 Advice for overcoming sticky beliefs
Hey, I know these don't get as many views as your other videos, but I think the people that do watch them get a LOT out of them. Thanks for making them!
True
YES
Agree 💯
Yessss
Zdogg, I’m not in the medical community, but I absolutely love your discussions about awakening and consciousness, particularly with Angelo. The two of you have lead me to the awareness and understanding that probably saved my life. I cannot thank the two of you enough, and I will be eternally grateful.
Can confirm: Awake is a powerful book on the spiritual path
You don't have to read a whole book to just sit and watch yourself just being without thinking do you?😂😅🤣
Listening from South-Africa.
Glad I came accross you.
Thank you.
I’ve gotten a glimpse of this twice since being a kid. One lasted a day and one I persisted 4 days. I don’t know how or what I did to get in and out. I’d love to know. I remember those days clearly and long for that experience of reality almost daily. In fact that’s why I’m here.
I've heard "we don't control anything" over and over again, and my needing to control every person and situation stems from some pretty bad things that happened to me when I was very young. If I think something is beyond my control I become very scared likely stemming from my unconscious mind thinking more bad things will happen if I can't control everything, or at least quickly escape any situation I can't control. So I've spent alot of time exploring the nature of control, but since supposedly control is an illusion for me, who or what is controlling things? If it's not me and it's not you, then who?
I'd say control is focused application of will towards some sort of object, but I also have heard that objects aren't real and are just an illusion. I know this on an intellectual level. A long time ago I realized, well deduced actually, that the only thing that can exist is the all, whatever label we choose to attach to it. So I understand all is one in a logical, Boolean, "if then" kind of way but I've had no direct experience of it. Like I said above I'm having a difficult time accepting that control isn't real because what makes anything happen if not the focused application of will? Is it just my tiny human will controlling anything is an illusion or is chaos, randomness and unconscious action the prime mover?
Also, in regards to the "standing wave" idea it kind of ties into a realization I had about a year or two ago. Assuming we exist before we animate these bodies and we exist after we leave them then life is the odd part. We think of anything that exists that isn't in a body as the "other" or the strange when it seems the truth is the opposite.
thank you for introducing us to Angelo. Like you, I've benefitted enormously from his direct approach. His book has been a blessing to me.
26:58
"It really just comes down to a sense of just recoiling back into a subjective self to hold the world at a distance and *try to navigate it and think about it, etc. And then we believe that's how we actually live - that's how we cause life to do what life does.* But we don't, it's a holding back and a reflective 'safe place' of the mind."
Something about this just makes so much sense.
absolutely love the way you both explore this subject. Angelo thank you SO much and Zuben, you are so receptive and such an able interviewer as well, a real joy to listen.
I thought this was going to be about why I can't wake up in the morning, lol.
Best comment.
Same
Me too… so I stopped watching! 😊
I thought it was just me. 😂!
Same and I'm so tired today! 😩 Lol
This is so much like my path: A Course in Miracles! Thanks so much!
Yep, bc it’s nondualism and the same. 🎉
Thanks for bringing Angelo into my world. It’s great to hear two unpretentious ‘regular people’ talking. This subject sounds complicated but you guys make it simple.
I like the sun and cloud analogy.
I really appreciate you pointing out that feelings of spaciousness are also thoughts
God I love these 2
The whole interview as always is amazing, but I really loved the ending, with a lump in my throat "give yourself permission to carry on" and yeah, it is terrifying. 👌
thank you
Angelo's thoughtless space pt1. and pt2. videos on his channel are really helpful.
Someone said many years ago that religion is for ppl who need it. Idn see it that way when I was younger bc I grew up in a strong Catholic community and it was our training however as an adult, I can see some truth to that statement. I’m no longer affiliated with any religion and see it as a crutch for some ppl (not all) who are barely hanging on and that’s ok. Life can be difficult and we need all the help we can get to survive.
Finding your “tribe” and sticking with it can heal broken hearts.
Great as usual conversation between you two! Like Z always says you guys are brothers from a different mother 😉❤
Hey Z! You're really lucky to have VIP access to Angelo (your comment about the rest of us who don't have an "Angelo" close by was so sweet) but remember as they said... when the student is ready, the "Angelo" shows up ... always! 😉🙏❤
Thank you! Extremely helpful! Especially the part with music in your mind- I recently have it all the time. It usually plays Chopin or Rachmaninov 😂 Today in the morning during the inquiry I surrendered it. It didn’t stop but I have the impression it got more quiet and it stopped bothering me. I realized it won’t hinder me on my “pathway”. Now I know I am not the only one and I feel even more committed! Highly appreciate everything you both do! 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Every once in awhile, the continuous narrative in my mind ceases for an instant and I am just in the experience.
Amazing listen, as always. Thanks gents!
I will reflect with ruthless authenticity as to whether these barriers show up in my experience. Cursory thinking - surrendering deeply to spontaneity from fear of being an asshole or not being validated is definitely one.
And sidenote, absolutely YES children authenticate presence. That made me jolt out of my seat in approval too Zubin 😂 Whenever I'm really coming from that place, all of a sudden children light up like Christmas trees and love being around me. The contrary - of being caught on the thought train - it's always the complete opposite. So fking true.
Kids are in the know for sure. A fascinating time to be alive
This was amazing! You two are gifts. ♥️
This was a great interview.
Thank you for this straight forward discussion of an important topic we're just barely starting to touch on in the west. One interesting blocker that comes up for me is the narrative mind's ability to co-opt an awakening experience and turn it into a story about "me" and "my awakening" and "how amazing it was" and "I've worked hard to get to this experience". The narrative mind will weave a net of words around your awakening experience, but what results is a false representation of that experience. Indulging this can lead one back into confusion.
Very good podcast on advaita. Thanks a lot.
I had a great disconnection for 2 days in a row after listening to this and another of their chats, so thanks for that!
Loved both interviews
I think I've done some of this years ago. Initially I learned to not fear or be ashamed of myself and accept my mind for what it is.
I'm not sure where I would fall on this journey to awakening, or maybe I'm already there... Some of how you describe the human condition seems to alien to me at this point. I've had a peace for many years and i feel a similarity to being awake.. but also I could go further.
Love u guys. U put Islam in its displacement perspective.
AMAZINGGG
True Knowledge is direct and experiential.
Excellent, thank you
Very good and so is the book.
Loved this interview and thank you for explaining ‘my’ experience so well. It’s burning away, like it or not.
Angelo Is Solid as a Tank!
Thank you thank you thank you ❤
I can't believe my First grade teacher never told me that I could directly investigate the true nature of myself.
Well, to be fair, she probably didn't know, and even probably absorbed years of misinformation that it can't be done, we need some clergyperson to investigate for us. 😢
Did Zdogg blaze some chronic before this interview?? Crawling around and shit..lol 🙄😅 love it!
I find convictions even a more accurate description as believe(systems) because a conviction implies constant effort/doing. also, it is not bound to a religious connotation only
Love love this ❤
Thank you both 💗👍💯
Loved this conversation. Speaks to exactly where I am in the process. ❤️
How’s it going a year later?
I'm really glad Z dogg said you can do this and still be functional; I don't know if I understand what he is talking about, but I've definitely been drawn to maybe what he is referring to and bouts of long introspection. Still, I always turn away because I don't want to go crazy or be seen as crazy.
Patients help 🙂
Once you experience what he’s talking about, it’s so familiar and obvious as to make your old suffering life incomprehensible. Just keep at it! It’s the most worthwhile thing there is
The "craziness" that will come will be as a sorte of melting from love to all around you. Not only to the humans but plantes and even material objects. It is high state but no any intention to make "bad" things, as the state it self guide you trough.
As you discussed filters I realized it’s like everyone addicted to filters in picture apps or snap chat or whatever that alter the true picture. We need to turn off all of those to get back to the original. Now I get the subtraction thing thank you for this
11:41 so well said.
You can’t keep from it.
Totally helpful thank you ♡
Angelo - I swear the exact same thing with intelligence - waking up was the single best thing that ever happened - none of that matters now tho - except right now -
Listening to this series again, really useful I think (but that's just a thought)
I love both of you ❤
OMG the box of Oreos…one of the funniest pieces of non-dual comedy to never actually exist
Will Angelo have his book on audio at any point? I think it would be SUPER helpful.
YES!!!!! I’d buy it that way too.
I woke up a few years ago and thought it was unique to me. Nice to see it’s happening to alot of people. I’d love to read the book and compare to my journey.
Probably too late, but I know he has been working on it, but he keeps losing his voice when he goes for long stretches.
I relate to almost all of this happening in my mind all the time. I hate this like I hate listening to Aubrey Marcus. Probably because they have what I want and I don’t know how to navigate that thought pattern. I also don’t know how to let go of my desire for security.
Maybe Wim Hof will help you ☺️
📌It's actually our natural healthy state of being if we grew up in a respectful loving and not corrupted way.
Everyone is special by nature because everyone is unique by nature. You just have to unfold yourself on the basis of respect and appreciation aka love to become and experience the uniquely beautiful person you are in connection with others and the world.
Also not being afraid of your natural vulnerability as a living human being and not denying, hiding or trying to escape from it makes you actually stronger, brave and gives you the ability to live and experience the real beauty and quality of live.
I can't believe I missed this!
You are!
I Am!
You don't have to know anyting or do anything in order to Be what you are.
Fun to watch you guys, being on the same wavelength, enjoying "inside" jokes.
In 2020 I had an "awakening" using edibles. I had never used med Mary before. It was AWESOME!! I got soo much information. I felt so amazingly.. distant from myself but more myself than I have ever been. I felt no fear whatsoever. That lasted about a week. Then it slowly dwindled until I was in the worst depression of my life. Tiny decisions would throw me into a HUGE fight or flight panic attack.
It was like I got a taste of being awake but had to go back and root out and deal with all the fears built up in my body. I am now teetering on the edge. A few days ago I was right there but chose not to leap. My reasoning, and yes, I know it is not true, but I did not want to not be this me anymore, quite yet.
Maybe you've experienced some kind of ego death and now trying to put yourself back together. Go through all your toys of the past, take with you those that you feel you need to take, and the rest leave with gratitude (but the role they played in your life to bring you to this moment) 🌈
I’ll be woke in Disney land 😂 great stuff i love listening to you both 🙏
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Can you guys physically illustrate the standing wave thing? Angelo uses that metaphor a lot and it just makes me think of high school physics but I have no idea what it means
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One problem i have when i go thoughtless is the loneliness of everything it even gives me shivers. Is it like that for everyone
The guys on the video came through and they doesn't looks lonely
Yeah the demons love when people go thought less because they can walk in and take control. All this blah blah blah nonsense is Satanic and luciferian.
@amyfojc3389 it's actually just reality but you're opposed to seeing reality
Shinzen Young is there in Southern California he can help you
Will you do a video of the pfizer data dump? Will you do a video on pfizer's annual SEC filing?
Im interested
I don't wanna watch this because I'm well aware that that's just ego trying to attain some goody. And yet by refraining from watching it out of deciding that that would be the more spiritually correct way of attaining that goodie, then I'm absolutely stupid and doing the same thing.
There is nothing to accomplish
if you feel like accomplishing this then go and act on it, the best way for this feeling to transform into what your saying on no attainments is to do it and see for yourself. You cant rationalize something that you want away, maybe the correct thing is to see what you want and go for it only you know
Could you please talk about the up tick in hepatitis in children and is their any way to protect from server liver damage
I love this......
displacement of Ego perspective and its fundamental principle of Oneness.
Oh, boy. I so want to understand (if not participate in) what you are talking about. I listen, or try to listen, to all these interviews, and talks by others such as Dr. Rick Hanson, but... I just don't get it.
I was that kid in school with high aptitude tests and straight A's until I got to seventh-grade algebra, which was like that record-scratch sound to my brain. At that age, my brain said, WTF do I care what 1/2 xy is? Unlike most kids I loved geometry, because I could see what the angles and surfaces were. Algebra, though? My brain did not compute. Sometime into my mid-20s I finally understood; I think I needed life experience to understand what X and Y were substituting for. I'm in my 50s now and maybe when I'm 70 I'll finally need/want/understand this awakening stuff. Or not! I feel pretty satisfied with my life to this point, so maybe I don't "need" this and therefore can't see it. But I'm the curious type and am open to the idea of it.
I was the same Darla until 63 when all my trauma came back with a vengeance and I truly asked, Who Am I without the story? 67 now and it’s a roller coaster alright! Lol
Perhaps it starts for you in continuing to watch an hour of these guys talking. Who knows. As Angelo says, don’t resist the resistance, accept where you are right now. Sounds good to me! I need a rest from the struggle.
Principle obstacle is overreliance on Awakening videos rather than transcending the mind directly. No problem. Access "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" and listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks. This is the foremost Shiva mantra from the Rig Veda. Manjushri in the Surangama Sutra states "They [practitioners] only need the practice of the faculty of hearing for them to break through to Enlightenment". .
It is not one’s job to be thoughtless. You should consider everything you do!Being thoughtless, is like the blink of an eye, its a reflex, not a action but a reaction!
Sudden reactions get people hurt including self. That’s why tight steering is built into the fast cars to keep you from getting hurt or hurting someone else. The thoughts in your brain are spirits and your the soul which is the king or ruler of a whole kingdom that lives in your mind/brain.
If you loose control the body becomes the thoughtless one and does as it pleases until war breaks out and causes things similar to seizures.
I really love these videos about meditation/awakening, I’ve been trying to get there for quite awhile but seem to be having some trouble. Is it possible for certain medications to make the process more difficult? It’s really one of the only things I can think of
How to spell the name of that app? The work of byron katie? Thanks!
Just looked for the book on Audible, and it's not there. Is it available anywhere else in that format?
Does anyone watching these videos, read or practice A COURSE IN MIRACLES?
I studied ACIM for several decades; definitely 'Truth'--but tought to awaken with just concepts.
I think it is a bit dangerous, because you may believe, that you get something, that you will be special, can manifest anything you want etc.
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There's a basic reason I don't really bother with this content Z.
I've been active in meditation for a bit over 50 years. One of the things I noticed is those who get into it often "awaken" and have the exact same view of what that is supposed to look like.
If you're "awake" you just are. If you can describe exactly what that experience is then you're probably not "awake."
But, I've been an outcast for many years because I don't agree with the conventional wisdom of what it means to be "awake" and what the experience is "supposed to" be like.
Just a bit of wisdom gained through experience.
If you tell yourself what's "supposed to happen" it will happen but, that's not true "awakening" it's simply a version of self hypnosis, in my view.
Just SIT don't expect anything. JUST SIT!
I've been engaged with this content (on Z and Angelo's channel, and I'm reading the book) for a while now, being on my own journey, amd what really draws me to it is that it really doesn't describe what "awake" is. It merely suggests ways to investigate. Has deepened my experience thoroughly, and having tasted it now, there's just no going back. 👌
@@damianhardy2965 Hi Damian, are you carrying out any 'practise'?, I too have read Angelo's book. It is heavy going and dip into it now again alongside other books and videos. Be good if there was a condensed abridge version lol. haven't really got into a routine or have been disciplined enough. Should spend more time practising rather pontificating
@@seancasey98 😆 Yes, so the shift started it seems at the end of last year, and then kicked into high gear when I came across Angelo on ZDogg in January. Took me a while to settle down with practice but have recently got into a bit of a rythm. Probably not enough, just half and hour in the mornings. But seems to spill over into daily life with some kind of enquiry carrying on a lot of the time during the day. Started reading Awake in late Jan, and I'm only just getting to the end now! 😆 it's been the slowest read ever and I'm not sure why, sometimes I just don't pick it up for a few days, and then I carry on, often with fresh insight. Go figure. I'm just very grateful for what appears to ongoing ok-ness. Whatever it is, there is no struggle anymore. 🙏
""" it's simply a version of self hypnosis, in my view."""
Angelo's version of it defintitely seems to be hypnosis. He affects himself differently in these interviews. But, in his own videos, it's broken sentences as if one word is a sentence, (followed by another one-word sentence.). That's classic hypnosis/brainwashing.
His channel doesn't seem legit. He affects being zombied out, and channeling something from the other side. Then has all the personality and "thinking" to produce a video per day (and greenscreen effects, choosing an edgy -- clickbaity -- thumbnail). At some point you realize there's two Angelos. The one "teaching" and the one raking it in with clicks/likes/subscribes.
You can't deny reality that way. "I'm in a trance... speaking one word. at. a. time." ("Wait, wait... I'm producing a video now, and have all the expert critical skills to make it salable.").
It is so obviously not real that it gives real transcendence, awakening a bad name. It's pop-awakening.
@@deborahminkoff7526what’s the real shit?
Do either of you have days once in a while where thoughts win? Yesterday was like that and I’m moving on from it and dropping it now but am I the only one dealing with this periodically? Normally everything is on automatic but once in a while…
Read The One Straw Revolution. This is it. All you need.
So did consciousness create these vessels the human body to feel pain? Im in a wheelchair with chronic neuropathic pain so its different, i guess.
I seem to get stuck on the "letting go" part 😅.
Seriously though, my mind goes: "but HOW do I "let go"? What does that mean in practice? Does it mean not think about it? About what?"
I’m having a thought about the guy at it’s a small world with Double Thought Stuff Oreos. Also, how is your book still in such good shape. I have tabs all over mine marking stuff. Lol
The sun meditation hurts...im going to trust my intuition and stop this practice. 😂
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Hi guys
I do not now believe in such a thing as “ego”. What the word ego seems to point to is the automaticity of action-reaction, those innumerable programs or neural pathways that operate us. These programs can be observed, thought and emotion can be seen to arise out of reaction on a subtle or not so subtle level. The sense of identity is such a reflex. With the confirmation of repetition, this seems to be a truer and more helpful line of investigation. Please look, and see if this is not true.
Ego is just a word to point to an identification with thoughts and beliefs I think. A process as you say. There's not a "thing" in your head we can point to and say "look that there is the ego!".
Either you're both doing a much much better job at clearly identifying this process to a very wide ranging audience in a very empathetic way or my 15 plus year slow meditation education modern day shaman path is finally hitting a long downhill path toward some really long worked and waited for realizations and attainments.
A barrier to my awakening was the 21 times I was called by the NYS health dept in the past two weeks (using my cell and home phone) after having gotten COVID, all after my 5 day (really 6) isolation period, and a good percentage after my additional 5 days of required masking. I tried very hard not to freak out and tell anyone off. It was difficult. Another barrier is the shame I feel around getting COVID from my vaccinated mother who got it from a small, ventilated (door open), socially distanced home gathering of triple vaccinated always mask-ers. My mother didn't get the booster, because she got shingles after her second shot which took forever to recover from, and then everyone who got the booster ended up getting COVID over the winter...She's planning to wait until fall. No, this is not a joke or satire. I'm trying to stay sane. Also, I was disinvited from an Easter gathering of vaccinated people who mostly already had COVID after my required isolation was done, but those who had not yet gotten COVID tested positive within days of the gathering anyway. I've been shunned by these people for over two years, even though they came to every pre-pandemic gathering sick, and even came to a Easter gathering in the 80s with chicken pox. Again, trying to stay sane. Oh yeah, now that CVS has my information, they've started sending me reminders to get a COVID shot.
Im sorry
Haha, The Comedian Pete Holmes also likes to drop the "..If you're nasty"joke from time to time.🙂😄
Okay. Now it’s going to take days to get the Small World ear worm outta here. 😂
So you can't trust anything?
I take dexedrine and Redbull to stay awake 😆😆😆
Sorry, im new to these types of conversations. So, to me this sounds like double speak. Not a very informative speak on how to "break through" to "enlightenment". Budda and most even spiritual leaders spend years to their enlightenment, no?
Well I have a 4 yr old so that's probably why lol
Weird. 5 years ago I thought this guy was crazy......
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You’re not clarifying what you’re talking about when you say waiting
That's how brainwashing works. Listen to Angelo's actual videos. It's one word at a time. That's classic brainwashing technique. "This. Then that. Not. Yes, There. Not there." It's amazing to me he has the following he has.
@deborahminkoff7526 you obviously don't understand. This has nothing to do with the mind. You're projecting your own fear on to something that thousands of traditions have tried to communicate.
Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, Christian Mysticism, Sufism. They all point to the same thing that angelo is pointing to. If you don't want freedom from suffering, that's on you
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Out of curiosity, would you still write this message today?
@chinchilla_462 yes! But tbh I don't know what the initial comment I responded to was at it was deleted