I now have Apple CarPlay on my HD Pan America, but how is it?
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Review of the Carpuride W702 Apple CarPlay / Android Auto unit for motorcycles.
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Several folks asked about using the Carpuride Apple Car Play while still having your phone and comm unit paired to the Pan America. It works. With my Cardo Pack Talk paired to the bike, my iPhone paired with the bike, and the iPhone also connected to the Carpuride via wireless Car Play, the audio integrations with the Pan America still work. The volume control and media buttons on the left hand control work, and you can answer calls using the handlebar controls as well.
In my case, I could never get a reliable audio connection between the Pan America and my Cardo Packtalk, but if you happen to have a unit with a good connection to the bike, you can keep those connections and add the Carpuride unit in addition if you like.
Hello, I bought this device recently however, the problem is voice guidance from navigation apps e.g. Sygic is not transmitted to my helmet head set. I connected using both methods but non worked. I contacted manufacture also, they could not solve the problem. My question to you: is voice guidance transmitted to your head set. Please advise.
@@abuamran7086 yes, my turn by turn directions are played in my headset. Are your directions played in your headset without the carplay device? If not, might be a setting on your phone.
@@MikesMotorbikeChannelthanks, I will check my phone settings
Great review! You've become my de facto PA resource. I appreciate the work you're doing for our community!
Thank you for the in-depth guide Mike.
Your review is incredibly comprehensive. Nice work
Your a guru in the pan am market I really needed this for my 2023 thank you
Outstanding video, appreciate the objectivity of the pros and the cons.
Great video! I actually purchased one of these through Amazon and got it in 3 days. Been enjoying it on the Pan Am for a few weeks now.
Just thought you'd like to know I just mounted my Carpuride unit last night using my existing QuadLock system. I just unscrewed the RAM ball from the back of the unit, tapped the threads out to 5MM and bob's your uncle. It's a little far forward for my preference, but I saved myself $50 buying additonal RAM stuff to make it work.
can you show how you put together a quadlock on this?
Nice job. Thanks for the review!
I got one on my Tracer 9GT-with Android Auto-and it works fine. I agree with the audio setup-it doesn't work well with the Carpuride in the middle.
Good review thank you.. I have one on my RT and it works flawlessly. Just changed audio to be direct from phone to headset.
Best review on the net. Thanks!
Hi Mike,
Thanks a lot for the very informative video.
FYI and the users of Carpuride you don't have to factory reset the unit to disengage it from your intercom....
From the Home Screen, you have to go to the Audio output (Purple Button) and choose your preferences.
IPlay/Auto: For your intercom to be connected directly to your phone and Carpuride is just a mirror of your phone (For me the best too), or
BT Trans: If you would like the Carpuride to be in the middle of your phone and your intercom with all the consequences you're referring.
You can change this on the go at any time....
I've just tried it...!!
Great video , thanks . I just got the w702 a couple days ago, Using via Android auto and found the same as you,. It works better for me via the iplay output as well . Have my SC2 on my Schuberth C5 bluetoothed to my phone and the functions are working well . I don't have handlebar button functions but use a chubby buttons device on the handlebars and that works safer for me to pause music , answer calls or skip tracks
Fantastic review - you've captured the good, bad and indifferent superbly well.
Your "glitch" has happened to me a couple of times on my Android setup - some kind of connection issue with the phone (Samsung), I think. It required a reboot, which isn't easy when riding. Frustrating, but not a deal breaker.
I did have issues with the first unit I had...customer service was delayed as you say, but acceptable. They directed me to carry out a firmware update, which resulted in the unit becoming an expensive brick - completely dead! That said, they sent me a new unit immediately and completely free-of-charge, which already had the firmware update installed and it has worked fine except for the "glitches" already mentioned; they didn't ask that I return the failed unit, so it sits on a shelf in case they decided to collect.
Great video. Thank you.
I’m also a moto RUclipsr and was just contacted be Carpuride. I haven’t committed yet as I’m not totally familiar with their products. I’d be interested way more in front/rear facing cameras and proximity sensors. I have an old school scrambler with zero tech and worthless gages that would benefit with a similar unit. Good job on the video, you’re way more tech savvy than me.
Excellent review. Thanks.
Thank you very much for the info
Excellent video!
Im getting the tall version this week. I cant wait. Ive toyed with and add on to the oem to understand the deflection possibilities. The v model makes perfect sense, and the cost is ridiculously reasonable compared to the pop brands out there. Not saying they don’t work of course.
Another excellent video.
Great video - very excellent 👍😊
Great review! I got mine 2 days after order on Amazon which I also recommend for obvious reasons and I like it so far (about a week). Also useless functions for you doesn't always mean useless for everyone and maybe a longer explanation of those functions would better support your logic. You do need to get BT audio from the Carpuride unit to listen to the SD card as an issue.
It is missing an autommatic brightness control.
W702 for 181.99 US is very enticing for me to just order direct, I have a 4400km trip upcoming across Ontario to BC in June and this would be alot easier for navigation than my phone
That an eBay deal?
20:39 if it is raining that much, you shouldn't be looking at your screen anyhow.
Very informative video. I appreciate your efforts to help us understand how the unit works.
😉👍
Don’t forget to email their help site and request the latest driver. Most times it needs an update and if you don’t ask for it you don’t get it.
how do you do the update
Go into the settings of the Carpuride and get the version # it is currently running on. Email a request for an update to the company. They will email you a new version if there is one with instructions to install it. (the company help email is on the instruction booklet)
For reference, the Garmin Zumo XT, supposed to be the apex predator of Motorcycle GPS units, also reacts to raindrops as phantom touches. Funny, I have the exact same Lee Parks gloves too and I love them! I ordered the W502B for my BMW R1250R and it snaps nicely into the BMW NAV VI cradle. Couldn't be any easier. First ride tomorrow...fingers crossed. Keeping the mount for my Garmin Zumo XT on the bike until I feel comfortable with the Carpuride's reliability. Thanks for the video!
@NJMike67 what about few weeks with the capturide, keep it or drop it? I also have a zumo xt which I will maybe replace by the capturide. What about the screen size ?
@@BrunoFriedmann Carpuride went back. The touch screen didn't work with any of the gloves I own. The screen size was fine, as the 7" would be far too big for my bike. I now have a Ricoel 5" unit that works ok with touch and functionality. I will likely keep using my phone on Quadlock with the XT mounted front and center to keep from having all eggs in the smartphone basket. If something goes wrong with your phone you are kinda stuck.
I will add that the functionality is pretty good across all devices, but there are some limits. I run both Scenic and MRA (not simultaneously). CarPlay limits what can be displayed on the screen (not sure about Android Auto). There doesn't seem to be a way to pan around the screen by dragging like you can with the XT. Both apps are pretty solid tho, and I know you can run MRA on Android Auto, if that's your jam. I run the bluetooth audio settings so that the phone is connected directly to my Cardo and not through the CarPlay Unit.
@@NJMike67 Thanks a lot for your report: I'm looking for a robust solution like the Zumo hardware (good touch screen, luminosity, endurance) but with the convenience of using directly MRA (my main planning things) if possible without draining the battery of the phone that I would like to keep with me (in case of ejection of the bike). And of course keep cardo connected to phone, gps unit and Madame 🙂
@@BrunoFriedmann MRA is great. What I find to work is to create route on MRA then transfer it to the Zumo using the down arrow from MRA on the phone, saving it as a GPX 1.1 or 1.2 then sending it using Drive. Doing that it mostly obeys. Garmin works best if you put a TON of shaping points so it almost acts as a track. When it thinks for itself is when things go bad.
I wonder if they will ever update the PA to AirPlay
Buying off Amazon also lets you buy a cheap add on warranty that covers a ton of stuff.
Nice review. My current issue with all these reviews is nobody mounts on a sport or sport -tourer. I have a Honda VFR and with clip ons, not handlebars. I can see mounting on the clutch/brake reservoir but this is not ideal. I actually consider this dangerous. Just for context, i have 45 states on this bike and really want it for map display. I have no intention of ever using the touch screen while riding. I also have a Cardo packtalk bold. Im taking my longest trip in a few months to Alaska and really want the additional visual beyond prompts in my ear. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thank You for your very detailed, in depth reviews of everything I’ve seen. I was wondering if you know if I can use this with an handlebar mount Bluetooth speaker and achieve the same results with the Apple CarPlay as you have in this review? Thank you for your hard work preparing these videos. I have a 2023 Pan Am.
Not sure. And believe it or not I don’t have any sort of Bluetooth speaker I could test with unfortunately.
Thank you for your response! I really appreciate your videos. Look forward to watching many more in the future. Take care!
You should do a video on installing the siren module on the pan america. No one has a video of the install or a video of the alarm on the pan america. I just installed mine it was $115 with wire connector off the harley website.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I move my bike around in the garage without my key fob on me a lot as several motorcycles all share one garage bay. I would not want to be setting off a siren each time I do that.
Hi,
Thx for this clear review. I also have an PanAm and thinking about one of those carplay device. What do you think of the fluidity and speed of the screen?
Was there any latency during GPS navigation like on the PanAm's native GPS?
Thx for all you videos.
Greeting from Switzerland
It works MUCH better than the Pan America GPS. Did not notice any latency, I tested Apple Maps as well as my favorite motorcycle GPS app, Scenic.
Good review, i've been using mine and really happy with it during the day. But the big problem i can not seem to get around is when using Google Maps at night. Even when i have turned the brightness all the way down and setting Google Maps to night mode, the screen is still too bright and off-putting, to the point it destroys my night vision and eyes can't adjust to the road at night as the screen is so bright and lighting me up. Have you found a way to dim the screen more or enable a night mode on the device settings? Thanks
I believe this product or simalier are available from Aliex at a considerable saving...just saying
Hi Mike, thanks for the video, a quick question with the unit connected to your phone and your cardo connected to your phone have you disconnected both your phone and cardo from the Pan America? Keep up the good work mate
Yes, I gave up on connecting to the Pan America about 2 years ago. Could never get a reliable connection.
Just tested, if you leave your phone and headset connected to the bike, those controls still work in addition to displaying on the Carpuride screen
I the Carpuride 702 and I followed your directions on how to set it up by pairing your phone to the headset then the Carpuride to the phone.
The problem I am having is when I make a call or answer a call I can’t speak to them through my headset but I can’t hear them through the headset it goes to the phone that inside it’s holster.
What am I doing wrong. Please help.
Mike, great review my question is have you connected it at all with your Pan America? I like the ability of using the bikes buttons for call answering and music volume.
Have had several folks ask that so will be doing that test and reporting back soon.
Just tested, and yes it works.
Just wondering if a quadlock wireless carplay would somehow work
Awesome video Mike! Any chance you can try fiddling around with the bike's Bluetooth to connect to the screen and perhaps regain the blessing of the right hand controls again? Or is it impossible?
I’ve given up on any Bluetooth integration with the bike. I’ve tried several times and methods without success.
Just tested, if you leave your phone and headset connected to the bike, those controls still work in addition to displaying on the Carpuride screen
@@MikesMotorbikeChannel thank you for taking the time to try this out Mike. I appreciate all the efforts you're exerting on this channel 👍🙏
Great video Mike. I have a 702W on order from China as we speak to replace a old Garmon dimly lite 595 on my FJR. Is it possible to just cut off the ball form the back of the ram mount flush and just screw in to my mounting bracket that way?
the ram ball is secured onto an aluminum post that is integrated into the unit. The ram ball itself can be removed, but you'd still have the post. The post is threaded for a single small screw, an M3 or M4 I forget.
Thanks for the great review. I had a couple of questions regarding functionality when the phone is the middle man and the headset and screen are connected to the phone. First question is. Ok you lose the volume function from the touchscreen, but can’t you alter that using Siri commands? 2nd question is, if I have a pillion headset paired to my headset, will they receive the navigation instructions and music? Thank you!
Yes, with the phone connected directly to your headset, all normal Hey Siri and headset controls should work as it normally would. Whether your pillion hears your music and navigation is going to depend on your headset, this device will not change any of that if it's not paired in-between your phone and headset.
Hey Mike, thanks for the great videos on Pan America maintenance You've saved me tons!
My speedometer runs 2 mph fast, meaning if it says I'm going 35mph in actually going 33mph. Do you know how to recalibrate it?
I'd be very grateful for any advice. Thanks!
No way to recalibrate as far as I’m aware. I think it’s pretty typical for speedometers to read a little higher than actual speed as they need to account for variations in tire size and wear. If it were the other way around and your speedometer indicated you were doing the speed limit but you were actually going over, you’d have a case to sue the vehicle manufacturer for any speeding tickets you received.
Some bikes are worse than others, I had an older VStrom that was 5mph off at speeds over 45mph.
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Ok thanks Mike, it was worth a try. I guess I can live with it😆
Thanks! I also still cant find anything more functional than the iphone in my bag connected to a zumoxt and my cardo. Is that a National Cycle vstream windshield?
It is, it’s their shorter vstream, perfect for me at only 5’6.
Great video, I would like to do this myself but I think I would have to disconnect my headset from the factory unit which I don't want to do because I have a Sena unit that is the only unit that fits in a Shoei Neotech2 helmet and the controls are so small that you really can't operate it with gloves on and the factory controls on the right side of the handlebars work so good.
I’ll test having the headset connected to the bike and let you know if the right hand controls still work.
@@MikesMotorbikeChannel thats my concern as well, can we keep the pairing to the bike and the Carpuride, look forward to the outcome!
wow that would be great, thanks so much
tested and confirmed, if you leave your phone and headset connected to the bike, those controls still work in addition to displaying on the Carpuride screen.
A very good review. Think that I will pass though, as I use a Garmin ZumoXT. BUT, I do like your windscreen & GPS mount; can you provide any info? Thanks!
The GPS mount is from Touratech. It’s just a device mount, it has no relation to the windscreen.
@@MikesMotorbikeChannel And what brand windscreen is that?
@@bukweet I have the shorter National Cycle V Stream, but in this video I took the windscreen off to make filing easier, except for the GoPro POV shots.
Hola Amigo. Any update on fielding your custom mount?
Unfortunately I’ve been busy with other projects but I hope to have some time soon for testing a new design.
P.S. I have everything working through iplay/auto.
Playing music through Bt Trans the sound quality is garbage. I tried to correct it with the EQ but it still sounds like garbage. I also can’t scroll through my playlist when in the BT trans.
I have a slightly different menu. I don’t have “Audio output” and “Music”. Did you update your software somehow?
No, this is how mine came, is yours older than February of this year? Perhaps reach out to the and see if a firmware update is available?
It would be useful if they told us where to download the firmware updates- nothing on the web site.
I have the new firmware... you have to email their Customer Service with a picture of the firmware version screen, they send a link. Update works as advertised and takes 10 seconds to do (man that 32G microSD card is a fiddly with my fat fingers).
I have paired to my phone (Siri) and my Cardo. Plays music from the microSD card and everything works as advertised. Couldn't be happier. Thanks for your review & advice, it tipped the decision for me.
Calimoto seems to not support android auto 😢
Can you use it without a phone? i.e. for basic android apps? Can it be standalone?
No, perhaps if you can figure out a way to break out of the carpuride software and essentially jail break it, but no easy way to run android apps.
What ! No way.
Did ya try that kickstand turn around?
No, have not tried a kickstand turn yet.
Works well with CarPlay, shit with android auto. No screen lock for rain.
So jist looking on Amazon for this. I see they have the 702 for $250 with $30 dollar coupon. But scrolling down they're showong the "24" version for $299 with a $70 coupon. So was wondering which version is ypur video of? And if it is the "older" 7" one what's the difference between these two 7" versions?
I bought mine direct from Carpuride, and they did not list any different versions, I assume they are always selling their latest version. Not sure on what any differences would be on the older versions.
@@MikesMotorbikeChannel ok. Sounds good. Thanks for getting back to me. I'm taking my 21 in to Harley finally for the starting issues this Sunday. I just know they're going to give me a runaround. I did put the antigravity 480cca battery in on Sunday night. Has helped. But I've talked to others with 21s and say I need the newer starter clutch gear.
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Hi Mike,
Quick question did you have issues detecting the Carpuride wifi on your iphone? i use a Iphone 15 and i have been struggling with this. Carplay wont start without the wifi connection. Any thoughts?
No issue at all on my iPhone 13. I connected it exactly how I show in the video though Bluetooth which as I understand then sets up the wifi connection on it's own. No issues at all on my end.
@@MikesMotorbikeChannel thanks for the feedback Man. Guess its something i am not doing right. cheers
@@MrPatrickoduah depends on the version of iOS sometimes, I had an issue with 17.5 on my in car screen.
Also how did you hardwire yours?
currently hardwired direct to the battery, so I need to manually turn it on and off. Next time the tank is off for service, I plan on wiring it to the accessory connector under the seat so that it turns on and off with the bike.
Before purchase Amazon said delivery in 8 days. After purchase estimated delivery in 21 - 49 - that is not ok😡
Agreed
Who buys from China, Amazon with next day delivery, the tried a trusted method, with easy cheap returns. Your returns nonsense is to be expected buying from overseas and not peculiar to Carpuride. Plus secured payment. Still a fat better option than Tomtom or Garmin, and Far more price competitive. Had all the same mounting issues with Tomtom and Garmin, we tinker to get it as we like it depending on the bike. It’s a great step forward .