How Powerful is “Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire” (2024)?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- What’s up, kaiju fans! It’s your boy Goji-Chronic here, and welcome back to my channel! In today’s video, we’re diving into the epic showdowns of Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire and analyzing the feats of strength and power displayed by the King of the Monsters and the King of the Apes. From Godzilla’s atomic blasts to Kong’s incredible physical strength, we’re breaking down the numbers and comparing their abilities to those of their predecessors in the Monsterverse. Who’s the strongest of them all? Watch to find out! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more kaiju content and Monsterverse analysis!
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I think Methuselah should be higher in your tier list, it's stated in the KOTM novel that he fought and won against multiple monsters, that including Rodan.
@@cafecreme6395I never heard of that, Where?
@@GhidorahFan64 As i already said, Kotm Novel
I would love to see waybig (ben 10) vs godzilla.
First off
I love the video dude even though I'm shocked to hear that Shimo is more powerful then Thermonuclear Godzilla from 2019.
Second
I got a question
If Evolve Godzilla was given the opportunity to become ((Evolve Thermonuclear Godzilla)) would he be able to destroy Shimo???
Please reply back when you can 🙏
I love how the bottom tier is called “ probably still beats shin”
😂😂😂
Considering How Shin is weak this is accurate
I love how the Godzilla powerscaling community now treats Shin like the absolute fodder (that he is)
@@youraveragejoe2712There are a lot of people who still wank Shin. They still believe that Shin can evolve in a matter of seconds or minutes, forgetting his terrible stamina, and that the whole point of the movie is that the Japanese government is so slow that a small problem can spiral into a massive problem.
@@youraveragejoe2712 I remember when every Convo abt it was "bUt hE CaN eVoLve"
Super Duper Charge 🗣🗣🗣
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Six minutes ago omg
Old
Bro u should do godzulla earth vs Heisei era vid
Yes indeed
Great video, however, one thing I'd like to note is that you mention that godzilla in 2014 was weakened after waking up from "eons" of sleep yet also mention that his fight with shimo only happened 1000 years ago?
MV timeline is cooked
@@Officialfda I’m so glad that SOMEONE pointed out that nonsense.
Godzilla's a lazy boi
Or him being awake to get nuked in 1954💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
*Rare footage of fda not starting a debate when encountering a gxk glazer*
There is no such thing as a consistent MV timeline
I'd consider suko's best feat is his durability as he was used as a weapon by kong and took the crystal explosion point blank he's ridiculously durable for no reason
Wrd
I believe he is a comparable size to Skull Island Kong so it gives a little perspective, but I guess living in the Hallow Earth requires a stronger hide
@@kuribohbrotherHes actually ALOT larger than Skull Island Kong
With Doug’s feat of his tug of war with Kong I’d argue he doesn’t win that struggle. Kong is clearly distracted by the mimic frog and thus loses interest in the tug of war.
Kong no diffs Doug.
@@zadas1132impossible. 😂
@@zadas1132 Doug solos fiction what you mean?
Kong fan Coping Hard. Doug can No Diff Shimo, Godzilla, Kong combined with them also having 5 billion years of prep time. 🥸
yeah
Man the x20 boost from Supercharged Evolved Godzilla with Monarch Scaling would be wild.
Solar Godzilla not evolved
He's not evolved 20 times tho, in the film he has most likely less power then thermo does, but he has the CAPACITY for more then thermo does
@@Reos-Domain by pure Logic Alone supercharged evolved > thermo
@@Reos-Domain The novelization literally confirms he is the strongest Godzilla ever in the Monsterverse and that he was reaching maxing energy capacity, meaning yes, he was using that up to x20 boost.
@@jeremymorris345 The movie stated that Godzilla's energy capacity was increased to 20 times, but it was stated he is just two times stronger than Base Godzilla.
I think it's fairly relevant to say that kong never got to fight using both the glove and the axe at the same time, but got both weapons at the end, so he should realistically scale even better now given that he has two tools that can help him even out the playing field with stronger titans
Not sure if you saw this but in the novel Kong managed to put the beast glove in shimo’s mouth and hit her hard enough to snap her out of the mind control. I think this is a pretty good feat :)
Edit: Forgot to say Evolved 🗿🍷
Yes but it was to stop the frost bite not the mind control.
That's in the novels and didn't even make it in the movies though
@@brothsipper-h5oso. Doesn't mean he can't. He was probably closer to her at that time. Even ignoring that, Kong never went on the offensive with shimu. He was 100% focused on Skar King with Shimu catching him off guard.
@@brothsipper-h5onovels are canon, godzilla and kong fought for 12 hours in GVK and we only saw like 5 minutes.
@@anhillary9345 Are you seriously try to tell people Kong has a chance against Shimo? Kong himself didn't even believe a supercharged evolved could win against her. "Godzilla and Shimo are still locked in battle. But Kong had a bad feeling about it. Godzilla was strong the strongest thing Kong has ever fought-until now. Shimo was stronger".
wadewilly really needs to watch this.
Edit: didn't expect anyone to like this tbh. Guess we all agree then
Yeah you are right
Finally, someone pointed out. Kong's heat resistance.
Regarding Monthra and Kong, we also have to remember that Godzilla was on one foot and on a not so sustainable base and so he could be thrown backwards more easily.
Kong punched a running Godzilla who was in a fighting stance and Godzilla simply lifted off the ground and fell, the impacts of the blows were significant as it left Godzilla on the ground motionless and counting the punches If I remember Kong used 8 normal punches and 3 power punches from the gauntlet.
kong is strong, smart, compationate, and can communicate with humans
godzilla is tough, strong, and battle smart
they are both goated
Have you noticed that Goji appears to be beginning to respect human structures, like, he used the canal to leave, he attempted to step *over* the colosseum,
It implies that when he isn’t fighting, he tries not to destroy things,
12:17 Godzilla after absorbing the French powerplant could still contain the power fairly easily whilst during the battle of Boston he was unable to contain the power
15:23 You can't say that the amp from the powerplant and the amp from tiamats lair amp him to the same degree since Tiamats lair gives him way more power and for all we know the powerplant brought him up to 110% and then Tiamats lair brought him up to 200%
18:18 Hypothetical at best
18:50 If Shimo was there then she wouldn't just stand on the sidelines, we also know that if base godzilla can easily dispatch the fodder titans in a minute that Shimo would dispatch of them in the same speed as Godzilla if not even faster then join Godzilla in taking down Ghidorah
22:13 Speculative. I mean it is definitely a plausible theory but at the moment is still head-cannon
25:58 Wingard confirmed he was just dazed for what is probably a short amount of time, plus Kong at the end of this ordeal was out of breath from this
29:12 No he's not
29:20 Aside from dominion Godzilla and Godzilla when he was an adolescent getting kicked out by the rival, any other version of Godzilla would definitively beat B.E.A.S.T Glove Kong
34:35 The Argo was damaged before they got Burning Godzilla's readings so at most Supercharged evolved is above nuke amped, that's all. Also the statement of energy stronger than ever before only applies to the atomic breath since that is what they are specifying
34:53 The power of evolved Godzilla is able to be contained on its own whilst the power of burning Godzilla didn't kill him due to mothra. Unless you wanna argue that Burning Godzilla is less than a 20x boost despite having a one-shot gap between him and an amped Ghidorah
36:00 Burning was never going to explode due to Mothras sacrifice so this statement is weird to use in the first place
36:24 No
37:32 Debatable, no and no
39:24 Other designers and authors have been given credit when talking about these subjects and Jard is THE creature designer so he at least holds some validity and disregarding his word is kind of unfair
40:05 Bruh :|
@@arnavtripathy2227 But they compare Godzilla during his evolution two times with Boston Burning. Before his evolution in france he was described as "less extreme" version. And in Rio after he supercharged it is stated "they never saw energy readings like this before. Hampton saw it now, EVEN WITHOUT INSTRUMENTS." They described the situation as the same and they were thinking he will unleash pulses like in Boston, but the difference was he holds more energy and is able to channell the energy to enhance his most powerful weapon instead unleashing pulses. Most people don't get it, but burning was forced to use pulses to regulate the overload, similiar to his france version. Something he didn't must do in his evolved form since he can hold and control more energy know.
12:17 he was able to contain the power in the boston fight, just not for too long, plus, Kotm onwards he has mothras essence on him, hence why he can control the excess of energy better and the why hes expelling alot of heat on Cadiz.
34:35 they can get his readings on Castle Bravo even if hes on the other side of the planet.
34:54 Again, Kotm onwards Godzilla still has mothra’s effects, so bringing the “oh but mothra” for thermo is pointless.
39:24 Jared only designs the creatures, he has no power over plot, visual effects, or anything besides being told what he must create
@@cantaro5958ofc you are here 😂
What is this Godzilla: King of the Monsters cope?
@@petroshalkos3453 and who are you exactly?
This pretty much confirms that Shimo is the most powerful kaiju in the monsterverse outscalling every kajiu including Supercharged Evolved Godzilla despite this power she is an absolute sweetheart who deserves all the happiness and head pats from kong
Edit: I caused a war in the comment section
Godzilla Evolved is still capable of beating Shimo with extreme difficulty
It doesn't. Ghidorah is still the most powerful titan in the Monsterverse besides Burning MV, he's stated to be the most powerful titan Godzilla has ever faced, statements that aernt just Walmart hype statements, he's stated to be relative by Jared who at should have at least some say as he's the designer of the monsters, while also being biased for Shimo. Also, Burning MV is still much more powerful than Supercharged Evolved, and it's not even a comparison. Ghidorah is still above Shimo, and she didn't freeze Ghidorah directly, as cave paintings, and Michael Dougherety make no mention of Shimo being directly present at the fight.
She doesn't outscale supercharged godzilla.they are equal
@@kaijuwaiju3954wow
The cope it real
Imagine ignoring actual statements and feats
@@kaijuwaiju3954 Skar is still above Ghidorah lol
Kong is the goat but Godzilla is stronger
Godzilla goat n king 👑 Kong is just a cool alpha but a Allie to Godzilla still
Their both the goats it’s just that one is stronger but one is smarter
Based Kongbro
Goji is MUCH more stronger than kong.
Godzilla is the goat, oneshots kong, and is smarter than kong ong
Dude idk how you don’t have more subs, this takes real dedication that I have only seen in very few other content creators to the point of when discussing things with friends, you and you alone are my source thanks so much for the dedication and please keep it up.
Godzilla looks like he snorted a whole bucket of pre workout watermelon flavor 🍉
Now i cant wait for kong to use his both weapons together
This video was so worth the wait thank you goji-chronic best video😁
I think Shimo is still above even an supercharged Evovled Goji, because for Hampton it only "seemed like a toss-up." Yet, Kong "had a bad feeling about it".
Yeah even the video states that supercharged evo vs shimo is 50/50 ,so it can go either way
She’s still above base evo tho, and many fans are gonna freak out about it😂
@@asafakiva1619 Yes I know, but two statements refering to the same battle. For Hampton "it seemed like a toss-up" but Kong "had a bad feeling about it". I go with Kong, since Adam Wingard confimed "she's stronger" as Godzilla "in this movie", in one of his official commentarys, explaining her role in the movie as "anti-Godzilla".
@@asafakiva1619whats even crazier is that evolved Godzilla’s form is not fully completed. A hypothetical 100% Evolved Godzilla is the strongest in the monsterverse.
@@newkiller4457 Guess that's up for the next film to determine. But in the meantime i'll stay with what i wrote earlier
@@asafakiva1619 cmon man, a super charged evolved Godzilla goes toes to toe with shimo, maybe Godzilla with the higher battle iq. Plus with the next installment of the film, there’s is a very high chance that Godzilla can beat shimo the next time although they don’t have to fight, statements should provide enough evidence to prove so.
To put this video shortly....
Pink gym lizard and big monke with glove=stronk.
Edit: @godzillakingofthemonsters5812 just said that evolved goji is below ghidorah😂
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It's always gkotm with these videos honestly. Sometimes he speaks facts, Sometimes he's biased as hell, and Sometimes he says random stuff.
@@HarrisAnderson-xw5tj And there's a good reason why he's a controversial guy among the godzilla power scaling side of the community. Why is it that the people he teaches to power scale (goji chronic here for example) are less wrong in their info (and definitely less toxic) than he is overall. You ain't wrong, the guy definitely speaks logical facts but at times he's bias and when you point out an error or two or call him out, he acts like a certain villain from dragon ball and calls people monkeys and acts like it's not a racial insult.
@@Kaiju-bm4ts I know right. Like, he acts like a complete manchild and sais he's 20? You point out one thing and he brings an entire Ocean of insults and racial slurs on you for absolutely no reason.
King of the Monsters and King of the underworld.
You don’t happen to be active on Quora do you?
@@gojitsar7505 dawg how tf do you know that?
@@TaurusSaurus It’s Tyrant P.D. Thampi
@@gojitsar7505 makes sense, good to see ya
@@TaurusSaurus Good to see ya too
Congrats on 30k!
You're cooking!
Edit: Evolved.
And also there are still some things I find it hard to agree with, but also a lot of things you've said sound good.
How i would arrange the tier list (assuming it's in order):
Shimu above supercharged Godzilla.
Put kotm Mothra at the end of mid tier titans.
Put GxK Mothra either behind Muto Prime or right above him.
Put MG either right above, or right below GvK Godzilla (or under Muto Prime since that's just a bad match-up).
Have a "Kong with axe and beast glove" placement and put him right underneath Ghidorah.
Don't care about the rest.
Nah
@@Scot_editscool
Intresting take
And by the way gotta hand it to ya for dealing with that shadowrulezalways guy (his real name is john reeves btw). Dude thinks he's the smartest guy in the room but he just shows to be another manchild that can't take different opinions😂
so don't take him seriously
@@asafakiva1619you were watching??? 😂😂😂. Thanks man. What surprises me is that there are many more people in this comment section who are so pressed about the "knocked out" comment. Like relax, he was only knocked out at best for 20 to 30 seconds. It's okaaaayyy 😂.
@@anhillary9345 yup
People take any moment of godzilla being bested by another monster, even if for a brief moment, as if it's the end of the world and thus you see all the videos that are calling out their toxicity in the last few days
And indeed i watched from the side and enjoyed the show. He really made a fool out of himself when he gave King Kong the ability to basically teleport from one point to another, like he's a saiyan or something (although ozaru IS a reference to king kong so i get the confusion🤣). I personally don't bother with him due to how he's so full of himself.
6:28 I'm sure that Kong lost the tug of war on purpose because he was caught off gaurd from hearing that call from the parrot frog but I'm sure I could be wrong
Shimo step up and really said: "The hierarchy of power in the Monsterverse Universe is about to change." 🗿
And Godzilla said the same thing to Shimo 🤣
Kong with beast glove and axe should be in elite alpha tier. When charged it can destroy substances that can survive the spiral ray from supercharged.
What substances?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55
Shimus crystal
The hell is a shimus
@@DarkEye-re9zgyou mean when Suko hit the crystal from skar kings whip? I'm not convinced that's got the same durability as the much bigger crystals on shimo's back.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55
I am not comapring it with shimos back crystals. The crystal is durable enough to survive a shot from the spiral ray while it got destroyed by the charged axe from suko.
I like how you played the god of war theme when you brought up kong, nice detail
In my opinion…
1.Godzilla (supercharged evolved state, just barley above Shimo. And i mean BARELY)
2.Shimo
3.Ghidroah (supercharged)
4.MechaGodzilla
5.beast glove kong and GXK Mothra
Edit: 4th place belongs to Kong and Mothra, 5th is MUTO prime, 6th is MG.
Same.
You forget to mention that godzilla absorbed tiamats dna
RIP the goat of snakes
how is that relevant
@@OvkenBecause he received a further amp from Tiamat on top of him already being supercharged. As her plasma energized his (already super-dupercharged) heat ray, which is where the pink color actually comes from.
@@Mysterious_PP No. his color came from Tiamat’s DNA. Jared Krivhevsky confirmed Godzilla absorbed Tiamat’s DNA.
@@Ovken and the PINK RADIATION in the den.
The hooks were going left to right, parallel for the most part with the ground when kong was htting goji, the stomps were going perpendicular to the ground. Also, personally given what was required for goji to evolve i still think he scales above thermo. Not only that the mothra buff I'm pretty sure is still a part of godzilla as his base before and after evo
Kong's last punch made Godzilla hit his head on the ground.
A pretty good assessment on the current rankings of Godzilla, Kong, Mothra, Shimo, and Skar King. I especially enjoyed your explanation on Godzilla and Shimo's previous battle prior to this movie. I honestly think that Godzilla is currently the strongest, with Shimo a relatively close second.
@@StareachValcin shimo would probably extreme diff supercharged evolved Godzilla
@@deinVater751 other way around cuh
@@Ovken hey, I remember you. And pretty much I agree
@@Ovken although it seems Shimo can sorta go supercharged too, just not as significant as Godzilla's Supercharge
Evolved 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This video had everything I wanted
Nailed it Goji Chronic ❤️❤️
Keep it up❤️❤️
Shimo's beam isn't fired at absolute zero. It resches absolute zero over time. The slowing of atoms is just how freezing works, to any temperature.
Chronic W!!! Btw I think u should do a vid on Scorpios Rex vs Indoraptor if your thinking of sum jurassic park/World content. Ya know powerscaling accurate
evolved
the research and effort put into this video was fantastic! personally i still think burning has a higher peak output but can only do it a few times before either dying or just venting all the remaining power. supercharged evolved putting out relative numbers repeatedly, entering then leaving the state at will show far and away the most level of control over his own powers we've seen to date. i wonder if he will regress back to his pre-power station amp in the next movie like how he went from burning back to base at end of kotm.
Doug, the Titan who thinks with his stomach.
Mecha Godzilla having his own tier is so funny to me
Evolved IS solar system or 3D with alot of statements from Monarch legacy of monsters
Evolved
W video I completely agree with the video. Only gripe I have is that I think Ghidorah, Shimo, and Godzilla are all in the same tier and that I can’t see all the characters in each tier.
Shimo rlly lost bc she weighed as much as case oh, so she buried herself down to the hollow earth 💀
Had me rolling
Naw bro.
You're banned
Dont disrespect shimo looks that, nothing is that heavy
@@mozalucaswomp womp she weighs too much it’s official especially with the art book.
Evolved Godzilla: "My Evolution was yes for Shimo but not mainly for her. I sense the present of another threat but is not from this world. I sense this threat will be like me but far more greater. I must get ready for this threat!"
From Wingard: "Shimo is sort of anti-Godzilla in this movie. She's bigger, she's stronger, she's got the powers to back it up. And normally, I think Godzilla would have a hard time combating Shimo, which is why he has to level up in this movie".
@@infinitex7666 nice! So glade u mentioned this to me. It has been said that Godzilla is still evolving meaning he is still leveling up but for what? I'm just hoping to see SpaceGodzilla.
@@dairydregone7146 They saying in the commentary Godzilla "has a sixth sense about Shimo" and that he needs to evolve because of "especially" her. And she is also still stronger than him according to Wingard.
@@dairydregone7146 well his evolution wasn't even complete in GXK, he probably would've been stronger and unleash a pulse. In his evolution he evolved to like 85% of his evolution. So who knows how powerful he would've reached if he got to 100%.
Guys I wish Godzilla was purple not pink
I agree. His evolved state looked much better when it was purple instead of full-on bright pink.
@@UltronInfinite that will likely happen
Isn't Shin Godzilla purple?
@@LilDragonkaijufan he not purple unless he used his atomic breath that shin
@@LilDragonkaijufan And Millennium Goji came before Shin so I’m not sure why this would stop that.
Does anyone knows where I can find the movie commentary ?
Sugestion to video: What If the Death Angels from A Quiet Place invade Pandora from James Cameron Avatar?
Imagine being blind and running around of the most beautiful worlds in cinematic media, that's really sad.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 huh
Anyone remember those leaked toys that came out months before GxK dropped where Goji and Kong had that battle armor on? I assume that Project Powerhouse would've given them full body upgrades if it was continued. So pretty much, the Beast glove was only a small part of a bigger buff if those toys are canon😮.
I think it was gvk
But yeah. I remember these
@@asafakiva1619 Oh shoot, I think you're right
@@BeDatAPickle those were just gimmick toys. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yo goji-c there is an audio book where kong punches shimo you should check it out
Evolved, W freaking video, im glad someone got all this out there finally 🙏
Just smoked now I’m finna eat good and watch goji chronic? Todays a good day🙏🏾
Shimo meta💪🏾
I dont fw you cause of the smoking part gang
@@Infinityc702 ion even know you I don’t fuck wit you either 😂😂was ts supposed to offend me LOL
@@averagekaijuuniverseplayer9687 it isn’t you js an odd one to think you cool smokin lol
Oh, there is a minor missing detail from the novel
The suplex has the same effect on Kong as his combo did on Godzilla
What is Adam's deal with low balling Kong lol "the sand padded him" my ass 😂
That isn't low balling Kong, all he did was give a reason to why it didn't have the same effect as in Hong Kong.
@@rjsblanket3024It's just that the sand compacted already. Kong should've died if he wasn't stronger than before. Same with Shimo's assault. Kong would've been put out of commission like Round 3 in GvK.
People can't seem to decide whether Adam is a kong glazer or godzilla glazer lmao.
That's not low balling him. It's just saying the ground being sand, broke under him allowing him to survive Godzilla stepping on him
@@HydragonofDeathAdam seem to be a Godzilla glazer tbh
Evolved
I loved this movie. I hope in the next film we can see what Evolved Godzilla's spiral ray is truly capable of
You better be paying attention GhidorahStan64
GREAT Video man, I still cannot believe this video is almost an Hour long, keep up the good work.
Ok kong did not struggle against Doug since one the roar of another kong witch was the parrot frog made the sound distracting kong plus kong was in pain from his infected tooth so kong was not really trying if kong pulled at full strength and was actually trying Doug would go flying off the cliff and fall to his death
Made it to the end, and I love the amount of details evidence used here, especially in your arguments. Everything was made very clear. Appreciate the hard work you and the others did with this. I tip my hat off to ya.
Also, can we nickname his hyper evolved state “Fearsome Godzilla”. Has evolved?
How fast do you think Godzilla and Kong on now?
Great video, man
And i'm glad that FINALLY someone else here saw the cutscene in the egypt fight. The excuses i've seen to try and make it look like it was one moment after the other...i've even seen a crazy dude writing here that King Kong just took a huge leap from Godzilla's head to the end of his tail right after he finished his x10 combo without catching his breath first or to check if Godzilla still responds.
According to his logic King Kong either teleported or got the speed force off screen🤣🤣 (tho i'll be all for it to see King Kong with another DC character powers)
either way once again, great video and scaling, man. I too view the fight as a brief KO (that's my interpretation, people. so relax)
King Kong is the coolest kaiju up there with methuselah
nah,lizard better
Lizard=💩
Gorilla king=😎
@@Obamna868yeah you’re just a kong meat rider and you glaze kong.
@@Obamna868always that kong glazer no matter where you are.
Godzilla is just a bully King Kong is a good guy
Haven’t watched the vid yet but I am looking forward to seeing how powerful a movie is
People missed out on how Stronger Godzilla get during their Charging on the Hollow Earth.
The fact that people say "Kong is stronger" as he struggles to drag Godzilla on the Portal still shows how powerful he is to be able to drag the armored lizard himself.
Meanwhile, during their Charge, Godzilla let Kong hang on his side WITHOUT EVEN SLOWING DOWN. That right there is something to be accounted for considering that Kong is more than Half Godzilla's Weight and Godzilla able to kept on going without slowing down is a Feat.
I think it's partly because of the weight or gravity in Hollow Earth.
@@anhillary9345 The gravity hasn't shifted yet when they were Charging. All of them are touching the ground and running normally.
@@quack9355really? I thought the gravity was always different. My fault
@@anhillary9345 You don't see them floating all round. The monsters, Even the humans are walking and running.
How did you miss that part?
Great video!
They are both the King of the Monsters.
Great video as always can’t wait to see what else you make
W. Btw, what is your opinion on Kong blocking Godzilla's breath in Egypt?
He didn't block it
@@HarrisAnderson-xw5tj Ik. I was saying like if the glove was to survive or not
@@MVandHeiseiGojiKing2019 the Glove was made from Mecha Godzilla's parts. So where ever his durability reaches is where that Glove reaches. We've never seen Mecha actually tank Godzilla's Atomic Breath, so we don't know I he could survive it or not.
Cool video dude 😎
Thank you for making it
Short answer: extremely
Honestly the impressive part about kongs scaling is that a pack of war bats which is apparently 15 war bats
Word of The Video: EVOLVED
Feedback/comments: Adam Wingard is far too bias
Well he's the director so he can do whatever he wants as far as Choosing story lines and plot is concerned
thank god someone finally said something about skar king getting grazed because wade thinks that because of the way skar king flew that was a direct hit. also he said something along the lines of like if it was a graze on the back his spine would have been exposed
Any Godzilla will get dropped one punch by Kong just like an evolved Godzilla was his punches really are just that serious
Wrong
His punches are the force of a Meteor, but if Godzilla tanked the one that wiped out the dinosaurs to the face, then a couple raw/ only slightly charged punches from Kong wouldn't have killed him that easily
My go to video when im arguing with godzilla glazers in youtube comments🗣🗣🔥🔥
Godzilla is awesome
I liked this structure of video and how the kaijus were compared to show how powerful the kaijus are relative to eachother. I liked how you proved some other peoples arguments wrong that I also disagreed with as well. Evolved
The x20 aplies to Evolved base, that "combat power has doubled" It's probably a metaphor or inconsistency because it doesn't make sense for Godzilla to use the energy from the nuclear plant, Tiamat's DNA, and increase his power while evolving just for a simple x2.
No 20x is just storage for base evolved
@@Scot_editsAnd that means power, if it was stamina it wouldn't make sense for him to increase it 20 times when what he needed was pure power against the threat.
@@masteredxz-2014 I know but base Evo doesn't have 20x power he just have 20x storage while supercharged has 20x power
@@Scot_edits The 20x statement was shown when Godzilla was in his Evolved base. Bury it.
@@masteredxz-2014 it is still 20x storage not power and base evolved is 2x in base
“Evolved” W vid, me personally I prefer these longer style breakdowns. But I don’t have a problem with your normal video length
Always knew kong was stronger than fodderdorah
In the tierlist, Goji Chronic actually put base and supercharged Ghidorah over Beast Glove Kong 💀
@@randommzmain5163 cap he tweakin kong left nut wins 🧢
@@Michael8kk bruh!
Something Else that i noticed during the movie is Godzilla actually got a build very similar to mechagoji
Great fucking Video but i have 3 things tobsay
1. Wouldn't put mothra about kong just because she knocked godzilla over. Yeah but she only knocked him off balance and Godzilla wasn’t even fully balanced to begin with since one foot was suspended higher then the other since it was on kong.
2. Base Evolved tbh is already a 20x increase. it's stated verbatim his energy cap has been magnified by that which would mean in this case he has
3. He wouldn't have died from the stomps if the ground wasn't hard therefore making the attack function like a hydraulic press rather than a raw kick or strike. So basically thr ground was crushing kong and so was godzillas foot like a hyrdaulic press. Kong would survive his AP as indirectly said by wingard
Lie. Adam wingard literally said kong would've died if it wasn't for the sand. stop lying
@@Ovken He said that the ground in egypt was lighter which allowed kong to not die. If the ground was harder like in hong kong it qould techbically work as a hydraluic press and kong would be crushed by the ground and both godzilla its not the raw kick lmao which he indirectly says kong would survive. Strawman fallacy wilding
@@THEMIGHTYKONG05 no. He said the sand absorbed the impact. Stop lying
@@THEMIGHTYKONG05 the “ground” being lighter make no sense”. If I stomp your chest on rock, or on diamond it’s still going to hurt you.
@@THEMIGHTYKONG05 I never made a straw man argument. Look up the definition of straw man for me.
40:07 I don’t see 2014 goji on the list, is he powerful enough to beat mg or gvk Kong?
No
G14 ablitorates mg and kong at the same time.
Yes he is strong enough to beat Mechagodzilla. Base Godzilla in GxK is stated to be closer to his full power than any other base (excluding evolved which is his new base), placing him above GvK Godzilla who is stated to be stronger than Mechagodzilla at full power but not by much.
As for Kong, it depends. Kong with the beast glove should defeat him, other versions won't really do much considering that in GxK Godzilla in his base is stated several times to be superior to Kong and GxK Kong is stated to be > GvK Kong (and he has the feats to back this up too, so Godzilla > Kong.
Doug scaling 😭😭😭
This was a great video, keep up the good work!!
Mechagodzilla having his own tier is what I call respect 🫡
I guess 2027 Kong beats Muto Prime 😂
What is 2027 kong
@@kingkong10brooks47 Godzilla x Kong Kong from the new empire with beast glove and axe
W
I realy dont think so...
Prime is a perfect counter to kong
She can destroy his axe
POSSIBLY shutdown the beast glove (wont do anything if just getting hit anyways)
So base kong aint stronger then prime.
@@321gggnils No, rather it is a worse counter to Kong, even Arvid Nelson (the creator of the Muto Prime) stated it, the most she could do would be to blow up the axe but she has no way of shutting down the Beast Glove as she does not possess the electromagnetic pulse ability. Kong destroys Prime by having better scaling.
I think it’s worth noting that when the nuke went off in Godzilla layer he didn’t just get the radiation from the nuke when it exploded all of the radiation that was contained in It probably erupted out like a geyser and he absorbed all of that radiation too, which is why there wasn’t any left when he went back to the Godzilla Dominion.
Didn’t Kong hit shimo with his hand without the glove and stun her in the novel and that means that Kong is stronger than 2014 Godzilla and any ancient Godzilla and any other Godzilla other than evolved considering the ancient Godzilla attacks didn’t hurt shimo but one punch from Kong stuns her that means Kong is stronger than any Godzilla except for evolved
Didn't happen in the movie
@@Foc_heisei it did in the novel and there the same
@@kdvgamingagain818 they are not the same
@@Foc_heiseistill canon
@@anhillary9345 it’s not
This video cleared up so many questions, I had thank you for that 🙏
When Optimus Vs Godzilla
Optimus one shots the verse
Yeah but the real question is which version of GODZILLA and which version of OPTIMUS PRIME.
@@ramranch6123 depends.
For example:film action Optimus aint doing shit to any Goji exept Zilla Jr.
However,comic Optimus wins easily.
BUT. he aint winning against GiH.
@@joelacosta9172 agree
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon well if you have seen Goji Chronics one video that discusses Bayverse OPTIMUS PRIME you would know he would upscale a vast majority of Godzillas as he stated that he would be HYPERVERSAL at his peak, and this is coming from a guy who's a bigger Godzilla fan than a Transformers fan so I feel like it's fair enough.
Thank you bro you proved all of my points. About why base evolved godzilla is stronger than supercharged cuz you have a lot of people saying that boston godzilla is stronger. Then Kong not holding back(try explaining that to wade willy) because a lot of kong fans think he was holding his punches against godzilla. And That shimo is stronger than Ghidorah
I have only two words
DUB SCALE
Gxk is acutally underrated and negs fw
(Still way big victim)
Based for the Way Big part.
W statement
Spiral ray fw beam does no damage to Godzilla. Kong victim
Everything W but way big can't even touch him
@@heyitsWAP7_YTBway big can survive the element x who able to destroy the solar system so
I feel like Shimu was holding back in the final fight as 1. I'm pretty sure that was said somewhere in the novel and 2. if you were forced to fight a old friend/ally and your potential saviors would you go all out
W Evolved scaling
I did some calculations on my calculator (and I know it doesn't become 20 times stronger) so I put pre evolve Godzilla at 100 energy things? And of course the supercharged would be worth 50 additional points. Whenever Godzilla evolves he has two superchargers plus the 100 that he had from his base. This becomes his new base at 200 points, but with the 20 times energy capacity. It goes into a monstrous a thousand points of energy, of course adding evolve base energy leaving us with a total of 1,200 points. If somehow this doesn't go above burning Godzilla in king of the monsters, I will start wondering what a burning app would do to evolve Godzilla.(Seriously think about it)
I love being the smartest in this comments section
I know the feeling. Maybe not here but in other videos i've seen very weird and baseless claims (from both sides, actually)
evolve
27:27 although I agree that is weird I don't think that the statement will work with Kong beating on Godzilla because I think the way it's supposed to be is like Godzilla is him straight down into the ground by like stomping on him but the sand is moving out the way so what Distributing the force that's still weird but with Kong it looks like he performing hooks silent think it will work the same I feel it still is a weird statement because as far as I'm aware the sand wouldn't really dampen the force that much especially if there wasn't fighting on like a dune.
Adam Wingard fr is biased and its annoying. IMO Kong should always be Gojis equal.
Theres literally no biased
just because King Kong is strong it doesn't mean he can beat godzilla, even if the director decided so
since:
Godzilla has more abilities
superior durability
superior feats
superior experience
superior strength
superior Attack Potency
Kong heavily relies on his IQ & raw strength
*Godzilla kotm theme plays as Godzilla violates the spider*
This was amazing... Up until the unbelievable evo goji glazing, you see monarch indeed has no readings, and the art book is soft cannon while the toy boxes literally hold 0 power scaling value since they are ment to hype up children to buy the toy. And also the screen with readings you showed belongs to nuke amp goji ☠️
Who btw is the one referenced in the previous sentence since they say that he looked like he was going to explode, but if you recall correctly and think without bias thermonuclear Godzilla was not going to explode as mothra allowed him to survive that overload and release radiation, nuke amp goji was the one going to explode, which is consistent with the concrete evidence that monarch has no readings of thermo whatsoever, also a little detail that you missed which I thought was too nit picky to point out in your last mv power scaling video is that Godzilla was stated aswell as shown to be constantly rising in power during the Boston battle, and monarch left roughly halfway through that same fight, which would upscale spiral heat ray Godzilla and only that version of him from gxk to being above mid Boston goji, which should make him relevant to later Boston goji, although I do believe he is still superior, this really puts to shame the whole "evo goji>thermo" joke that is somehow still going, also the "strongest version of Godzilla" quote from the narrator conveniently gets followed by "that they have ever seen", which is referring to the monarch employees, yet again disproving that missinterpretation of that statement collection you used, also if you collectively compare the sheer amounts of radiation each form took in, thermo should massively out scale evolved even when low balling stuff like how much his power increase mattered and how strong he was by the time he showed up in Boston (which I low-balled to base), and even with that you can absolutely use the idea that Ghidorah had a second amp after draining Godzilla, which visually speaking is implied to be a more significant amp than the electrical power plant, and we all know how big of a difference that made, then you also have to take into account how Ghidorah's Regen is amped depending on how much radiation there is in the atmosphere, which was showcased when he could heal an entire head in seconds after sitting over Rodan's volcano, so you can only imagine how much his regenerative capabilities were amped when he was getting obliterated by thermo. In conclusion, by actually analyzing the feats and statements Shimo and spiral heat ray evolved goji are roughly equal to supercharged Ghidorah, ofc talking about the first amp, not the one where he drained Godzilla, honestly I've went through a lot of back and forth on who wins each matchup, and the only one I am confident in is Ghidorah beating evolved supercharged goji, since goji has no way to deal with the regeneration, for Shimo it gets a but load more complicated since depending on how you interprete certain feats eather one can take strength, speed, durability and experience, and it also depends on if you believe that Shimo simply freezing Ghidorah counts as a win, since due to his durability shattering the ice would not kill him although it will be a VERY powerful blow, and if you do count freezing as a win, then you have to take into account if Ghidorah could stop it since it was shown that the electrical bird thingies of the hollow earth could interrupt her beam, and let's be real Ghidorah's beams and storm have more electricity which is also supported by the novel confirming that each bird had the electrical output of a single lightning bolt, but can you scale Ghidorah's reaction to Godzilla's beam as a good enough reaction speed feat for him to react to Shimo charging up and blast her to prevent it ? And if yes who will run out of energy first? Even if Shimo would outlast Ghidorah could Ghidorah lower his storm like the ancient cave paintings imply when they quoted "his storm swallowed both men and gods", and if he can would the electrical currents and constant lightning strikes interrupt Shimo frequently enough to effectively disable her ice blast ? And most importantly will he lower his storm? From what I am aware his storm would probably not affect other semi-high to high tier titans and above, so using it against Shimo makes no sense but then again assuming he doesn't already know of her weakness is there a reason not to lower it since he is constantly manifesting it anyways?
This one has so many ifs that honestly I can say that you should give it to whoever you want to win since there is a strong case for both of them.
Great vid none the less, I had lots of fun watching it, definitely subbing !
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Now I know I am going back to simply scaling evolved but supercharged evolved should NOT count as a separate state, and should definitely not be considered a supercharge, despite the deceiving name, since he only lit up when charging up and firing his beam, which is similar to gvk goji lighting up to the point where he looks like Boston goji and even France goji when charging up his hollow earth drill, would that make gvk goji the same tier as the 2 supercharged states ? Absolutely not, and the same logic should apply here. Honestly the only difference between Egypt and Rio goji is that Egypt goji underestimated Kong and didn't just blast him on sight, as well all saw how quickly he floored Kong after he got disrespected, meanwhile in Rio he was able to consistently go all out since this time he is fighting a relevant opponent in Shimo, also unlike what goji chronic wants to interprete the heavyweight-lightweight situation as a power difference they are literally referring to, well, Godzilla being significantly lighter, it has nothing to do with power.
@petroshalksoos3453 so the novel is wrong about SCE?
@@sairahameed5515 nope, goji chronic missinterpretes the novel's statements to wank SC evolved
That point about Godzilla burning Ghidorah while not burning shimo makes no sense because Godzilla fought Ghidorah when the earth was 20x more radioactive, however he fought shimo 1000 years ago, not 20x more radioactive. If radiation makes Godzilla stronger, you could argue Godzilla was 20x stronger when he fought ghidorah.